Top 10 WORST Warrior Cats Characters

[@RocketPooch]

He was only sort of a jerk one moment, And then the next moment, he is ready to kill 3 cats. And then the next moment, he's pretending nothing happened at all, And then the next moment, *he's dead.*

[@floofthenarpycat5363]

RocketPooch who me?

[@pineforest1442]

Ash Fur yes you

[@rachelleredd8803]

Yes, they're talking about you, Ashfur

[@V1DEOST4RZ]

I love the cat from the warrior cat series NOT the youtube whatever its called anyway i love ashfur honestly hes my favorite

[@celiafelipe1034]

@@V1DEOST4RZ same! YOU HATE BRAMBLESTAR? ( PLS SAY YES! )

[@flurryhowl9277]

Briarlight: Looses use of two legs, StarClan doesn't lift a finger. Cinderpelt: Looses use of one leg, StarClan recarinated.

[@alex-zd2kw]

FlurryHowl yes yes why her what abooouuutt all e other dead cats

[@mistysharks]

Koda the Starbucks Employee she doesn’t even lose a leg she can move it, it’s just hard to

[@JlMMOTHY]

Loses*

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Microwave I would also like to point out star clan make some ridiculous relationship rules that have caused more harm than good

[@starvoltnexus3139]

Microwave Yeah I’m according to Wikipedia things I’ve been finding SquirrelFlight said if she’s right about the imposter’s identity the situation is worse than they originally thought I wonder if star clan is slowly being corrupted somehow

[@crypticallumine]

One star is evil Onewhisker is nice

[@sapphirerose5139]

They are the same cat--

[@reelreel1309]

@@sapphirerose5139 hes just saying he doesnt like onewhisker as leader

[@groudonvert7286]

@@reelreel1309 In French, he completly changes his name... His French Warrior name is "Moustache" (Whisker) and his French Leader name is "Etoile solitaire" (Alonestar or Onestar)... By this way, we can think that Moustache is dead in the French Books lol

[@reelreel1309]

@@groudonvert7286 very fancy name xDD

[@groudonvert7286]

@@reelreel1309 right xD

[@thewackytaxi]

Mapleshade? I thought it was Shaplemaid...

[@crystalwolf5050]

Yeah..

[@Traci406]

Omg I watched that vid but ya lol

[@kittenmitten2948]

*MY NAME IS NOT SHAPLEMAID*

[@daniellemcgrath9252]

At least someone other than me still watches all of this old stuff! Shaplemaid 4 life

[@photo_paper784]

Lol

[@durpddurke4633]

Gotta admit, Ashfur may be one of the most hated cats, but you gotta love the memes about him, including that one Notice Me Senpai MAP

[@cassiaaquino5172]

Completly agree,i love that map thou

[@nyx1099]

I agree

[@afanasyevv]

Da Dragon Durp oooooo

[@cringeplushstuditios1715]

I agree AND I SEE.YOU EVERYWHERE ANIMATION MAPS MEMES ALMOST LIKE ANYTHING

[@kawaiipikagamer9726]

Da Dragon Durp h

[@bunniexoxo502]

Maeshades Vengence was made to not have a resolution, she was kicked out of her clan, lost her kits, was cheated on, then banished. At this point, she thought no one cared for her so she murdered everyone. That doesn't justify it or say it was right, but what she did did have a reason. At the end of the book when someone tried to help her, she denied them showing there was no sympathy, kindness, or reasoning in her heart anymore so she went to the dark forest. Mapleshade was like a princess, all her life was perfect until that one horrible event, so she didn't know how to deal with it other than with anger, I think this makes perfect sense in her story arc. Thats why I like her.

[@emiled8409]

Shes my fave!

[@snufkin13823]

Yeah, like, she was meant to be hated. So like, if it makes you hate her its really a GOOD character because thats her purpose xD

[@PixiBui]

SO The warrior code is to protect other cats and not to kill them or whatever. SO WHY DID THEY BANISHED HER!? I Know Appledusk killed two people by accident (as I heard) But oh my god the kits were two months old!

[@ninodinomc537]

I like her too!

[@Pot8t0s]

I agree so much

[@kittenmitten2948]

Hawkfrost was such a disappointing villain tbh

[@floofthenarpycat5363]

Eat a WIGGGG SISSSS

[@pineforest1442]

Kitten Mitten he only gained momentum after he was sent to the dark forest.

[@rainvsp]

Kitten Mitten I just started reading the second series and when I saw Hawkfrost’s name my reaction was just 😂😂

[@AFUniversCat]

So true. I hate him

[@rainvsp]

Tbh I liked hawk frost as a character and the story was interesting to me but he just sucks as a villain

[@Sumopian]

I personally and utterly hate Rainflower as a character. End of story. No reason for justification.

[@kalashnikovakot3346]

That as.... i mean freak HATED HER SON BECUASE SHE LET HIM BREAK A JAW. SMH

[@fragrantbeetsootsauce1324]

AKIRA TALKED ABOUT THIS! SHE THOUGHT HE WOULD DIE AND DIDNT WANT TO HURT HER HEART

[@pineforest1442]

Alku Animates still not a very good mother because of that.

[@fragrantbeetsootsauce1324]

@@pineforest1442 I don't even remember commenting this... why reply now?

[@pineforest1442]

Alku Animates probably because I just saw it...

[@sydneytaylor8128]

Well, the glorification of Mapleshade's murder is because the book is partially through her PoV. It would make no sense for the book to be like, "Mapleshade was thrilled when she finally felt Ravenwing fall limp beneath her, a tremor of satisfaction ripping down her spine." And then the narration be something like, "Mapleshade took another cat's life, and that's no good!" The "narration" in Warriors isn't like an episode of Caillou where a voice above is walking through reader through what happened. It merely describes what is going on with the characters. So if Mapleshade feels glory from murder, the narration simply says it how it is. However, I agree that the book was far too rushed. It was like "Mapleshade's kits drowned, time for a murder spree!" Rather than properly developing her fall into insanity.

[@lottie5807]

I personally don't see how else they could've handled it. Spottedleaf's Heart was told from the point of view of Spottedpaw, who had no idea that the relationship was bad and was being groomed into thinking it was okay. As said in the other comment, there's not going to be random narration where it says if something is right or wrong.

[@lottie5807]

True

[@jojocookie774]

I kind of want to see an evil medicine cat in Warriors. A cat driven to madness a bit similar to Goosefeather but going down a wrong path. Like a manipulative cat using their knowledge and title to gain power or a cat that thinks the only way to stop a bad future is by poisoning others or do twisted deeds in hope of better outcomes. But I think a fanfic already did that.

[@stitc9683]

It is possible Shadowkit could be one, trust me >:)

[@DottySp0tz]

I have an oc like that

[@keith2253]

Hawkheart??

[@keith2253]

@@stitc9683 ya that Bois an evil little child

[@leeanncrawford1687]

I already made a OC for that

[@iamdog4864]

* Starts watching video * Video:”Bluestar” Me:”Waaaaaahhhh?!?”

[@yourfriendlylocalhitman667]

Same

[@vividcolours8033]

same

[@Violet-cy2id]

SAME

[@pixelmittens1676]

I really hated her when all she did was mope around and make Firestar (Fireheart then) do everything. :/ I was kinda relieved when she fell and died tbh.

[@EngelsSegen]

@@pixelmittens1676 *gasp*

[@eggsncocoa2299]

Honestly, I kinda like Alderheart. I kinda like that he doesn't take risks because he has anxiety

[@songsandcrazytimes5683]

Me too, i like his nerves and his lack of risk, he seems alot more realistic and normal lol

[@doodlecake8451]

Kinda sounds like me...

[@superhappygamer1162]

Same!

[@ManiacalBlueberry]

Alderheart is me lmao

[@Ivypool123]

sounds like me🤣🤣

[@maliciousraven570]

"At this rate, Alderheart's chapters in The Raging Storm will likely be about him breathing." Chapter 1: *inhaling and exhaling* Chapter 4: *inhaling and exhaling 2.0* Chapter 7: "AAH I CAN'T BREATHE WHAT DO I DO FOR THIS CHAPTER" Chapter 10: "Ummm... I'm kinda dying here!" Chapter 13: ded Alderheart's death in TRS. He breathed too much.

[@waffledemonoverlord4232]

Malicious Raven breathing too much is the best way to die ever

[@andrewpennell7920]

A sad person and dead lol

[@coonfilms162]

Malicious Raven I

[@timothyhine208]

If he dies in raging storm then itll be interesting actually and probably a good book :l

[@FiveFoxesInATrenchcoat]

Malicious Raven I literally just want Alderheart to die already. He's blander than gluten-free bread, and he has been since the beginning.

[@blueanimations6552]

"It comes from the novella Mapleshade's Vengeance" *snaps fingers* Ravenwing! "This cat goes by the name of.... Mapleshade!" Darn it!

[@user-ep7sg6rq3y]

Ravenwing did nothing wrong.

[@sprinklextreme4129]

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT!!

[@dragonstouch1042]

Cutezilla or Frecklewish. I know I’d beat up a lady who’d let me believe her kids were my dead brother’s only to for them to be the guy who I held his death responsible for’s

[@kavaler1471]

Or Appledusk

[@makaylareynolds8617]

I thought it was appledusk

[@olly_lmao]

"Juvenile fiction" *main focus character goes on a murderous rampage*

[@Flowerbarrel]

Chapter Fifteen: Alderheart's Lungs 'Alderheart looked around and inhaled a deep breath through his nose, the misty, earthy scent calming him. He took another breath and let it out in a contented sigh, his breaths regular as he listened to the cheerful birdsong wafting on the breeze. Suddenly Jayfeather called to him, and Alderheart took a deep breath to shout loudly back. His voice, strengthened by the clear spring air, carried across to the camp before he took a strong breath and sprinted back to find Jayfeather waiting for him, impatiently kneading his paws in the damp earth.

[@sarahkey9578]

Did anybody else realize that Hollyleaf needs glasses? She thinks sol is a lion on the moor?..

[@ApricityGlow]

Sarahkey8 AJ Tbh, she has never seen a lion before, and the sun was glaring down.

[@bricrowave]

Sarahkey8 AJ , you know cats ARE near-sighted

[@thamysmalcolm2535]

Hollyleaf, get some glasses! (pft just imagine all books with hollyleaf in them with her wearing glasses and misplacing them constantly)

[@ikimono7382]

Mia Rose Weiss YESSS

[@koifish4276]

Mia Rose Weiss omg and that would be So relatable

[@sarahkey9578]

Mapleshade lost literally EVERYTHING in not even an hour, her kits, her clan, and her mate. She went insane. To me Mapleshade was done well,

[@ollieslovelyworld6330]

Sarahkey8 AJ except for the fact that she gets evolved with everything

[@the3cookies256]

Oh yes, cause murdering innocents for revenge is definitely a good thing to do. Everything that happened was Mapleshade's fault.

[@lunar_proxy]

To be fair, she was "insane" before. I mean, not really, but she had some weakness before (mentally). It was somewhat noticable to begin with, there was something in the way she thought, acted, believed in... Something was off. And her loosing her clan, her kits and her mate made that weakness into a monster. That does NOT excuse her actions at all. Killing cats was absolutely wrong. But that at least explains it.

[@residualtouch119]

Then I don't understand why Scourge isn't on this. He went mentally insane as well, it wasn't really even a good reason. All because someone bullied him, he all of asudend wants to kill a bunch of cats. Mapleshade lost everything she could have loved. In my opinion, she's the best villain.

[@zozarie]

The thing that mainly made Scourge (Tiny) leave was Ruby's words "You know what happens to unwanted kits? They get thrown in the river." I personally like Scourge and feel sorry for me...but people have their opinions and I respect yours.

[@jessicaedwards135]

i just want to put this out there Cinderheart:*thinks*i want a mate, and i had a crush on Firestar *sees lionblaze* :O purfect!

[@awesomeocmaker1901]

She had a crush on Firestar?

[@alex-zd2kw]

Ava Amiano cinderpelt disd and bc cinderheart is reincarnation of cinderpelt..... yeah

[@ne0njuice782]

This comment makes me mad for multiple reasons but i don’t wanna start a war, so.. nice opinion, but I disagree.

[@CPRCUS]

Okay Hold up Tallstar is the best character We can all agree, yes? Good.

[@mousepaper1662]

Yessss

[@rainyweather1997]

I feel like mapleshade should of gotten a super edition so her story wasn’t so rushed and we could have had a better understanding of her

[@gluppers2421]

Ehh. Mapleshade... Is an iffy character. I'd agree if there was /more/ to her story. I do agree that her being in a novella was just rushed and too short, though I feel like a Super Edition would've been too long and dragged things on. It's quite a hard topic. Maybe she should've just been a tale in a new series about villains perhaps.

[@lunar_proxy]

True that. I feel like her story could've been improved (aka not rushed), because it was good. It was just rushed.

[@D0GDAZE]

*should have

[@koolkidcait]

Isn't Mapleshade's Vengeance a super edition?

[@kierstencobb5517]

Super edition for Mapleshade would have been a great idea, she only has a novella which touched on everything. I believe much more could have been explained, but it wasn't too bad

[@PeachTIgerDraws]

the only one I disagree with is Mapleshade. Her novella was rushed, she deserved an SE, and even then Apledusk is still 10x worse than her imo.

[@lottie5807]

At least Appledusk didn't brutally murder anyone.

[@swirlingstars7361]

Moon LPS Are u srsly saying cheating on someone is worse than multiple murders, m8?

[@PeachTIgerDraws]

What we're saying is that he's a scumbag and literally got away with what he did scott free if not for Mapleshade killing him.

[@swirlingstars7361]

Moon LPS That doesnt answer my question.. ;-;

[@swirlingstars7361]

Peach Tiger I mean, yea, what he did was wrong & he definitely deserved some sort of punishment, but i dont think it was bad enough that he deserved murder.. But yea i see what u guys were saying pls stop attacking me i was trying to be friendly lol

[@jnurse24]

“Her death was far to predictable to be sad” It made me want to cry...

[@raincloudthecat9418]

jnurse24 yes it was sad i liked Bluestar

[@mychemicalklance4991]

Every death made me cry tbh. Well not every death, the deaths of the good cats made me cry

[@bambam391]

@@mychemicalklance4991 the deaths of some of the evil characters made me just as sad as the good cats. Especially Tigerstar, he was cruel, but an interesting villain I don’t relieve he deserved to die like that. Ok, maybe he did, but I still found it really sad

[@Fredericksocool]

I cried at Yellowfang’s death :’(

[@Icantchangemyhandlehelp]

Brokenstar deserved it, but I almost cried when he died because it was so shocking and so emotional for Fireheart.

[@astra7792]

When you were talking about cinderheart, I (almost) completely disagree. First of all, I really disagree with "Cinderpelt enjoyed her life afted becoming a medicine cat." To a certain extent, yes she did enjoy her life, but she never chose the life of a medicine cat, she wanted, very much to be a warrior of Thunderclan. She said, a lot of times, that she always dreamed of being a warrior. When the accident happened she was obviously crushed by thr fact that she would never be able to fight or hunt like a warrior, and she would be a medicine cat instead. She specifically held it in because she didn't want to be all "poor me." Her destiny was always to be a warrior, but Starclan never predicted the accident. So in a way, she enjoyed her life, but not to the extent she was supposed to. Second, I believe cinderpelt did need that second chance. Like I said, she really wanted to become a warrior, and that was her original destiny. That was the whole reason she was given a second chance. Unfortunately she wasn't developed as a charcter too much, but she was enough that her actions made sense. So all in all, Cinderheart, in my opinion, wasn't a horrible character. She was a great one, that just deserved a bit mkre development to give a better understanding of her life.

[@olly_lmao]

The first part is on my "Why I hate Tigerstar I"

[@rainvsp]

Mochi Productions I agree

[@humanwaste000]

The Erin’s should make a novella about her! It could be called Cinderheart’s Choice!

[@crowzier]

silhouettey I agree

[@blackdeer_xx0846]

Mhm, Cinderheart was a great character!

[@jamesthesock1285]

I didn’t really see Alder X Velvet as a forbidden romance. He never acted upon it, he basically had a high school crush, and got over very quickly. As Jayfeather said, his feelings weren’t wrong, but acting upon it was. If he had left with Velvet or mated with her, etc. then it would be a forbidden romance, but until then it shouldn’t be counted as a forbidden romance But hey, that’s my opinion :3

[@pridecat]

Right. ^^

[@oofieoof2583]

Right!

[@NylaTheWolf]

Agreed. I actually liked the kittypet subplot. The scene with Fuzzball meeting Jayfeather was HILARIOUS! And I liked how they brought out Jayfeather's softer side. I like the part when he was devastated over Briarlight's death, Fuzzball sits besides him to comfort him, and Jayfeather puts his tail on his shoulder and accepts his comfort. I loved that part because even though Fuzzball annoyed him, he still accepted his comfort. I also like how Jayfeather told Alderheart that he was needed in ThunderClan, and he was a good medicine cat. I like it when grumpy characters aren't grumpy 24/7. Real humans show multiple sides of themselves.

[@NylaTheWolf]

TheDancingMoonFoxy I doubt hes old. Hes way too excitable and hyper to be extremely old. It mustve been a different Fuzzball. I mean its a rather generic name

[@NylaTheWolf]

TheDancingMoonFoxy I looked on the wiki. Youre thinking of Fuzz.

[@haven9264]

the thing with mapleshade is she is pretty much the only female villain. ( I mean like the main female villain ) I wish we could see some more bad girls lol

[@oppacola9885]

Well now we have our bad girl; Sleekwhisker >:)

[@musinx4433]

@@oppacola9885 sleek wisher isn’t much of a villain though..

[@ShadowStray_]

@@musinx4433 I want sleek whisker to return to the clans and cause some havoc >:)

[@fallenflame1940]

Maybe you could count hollyleaf as a villain? Idk i havent read the books in awhile

[@periltheskywing2179]

@@fallenflame1940 IK your comment was months ago but I don’t think hollyleaf is anywhere near a villain imo

[@flickness]

Akira: #1 is.. * the text: Appledusk * Me: “huh, I can see tha-“ Also Akira: *MAPLESHADE!*

[@phantomalpha887]

Ok I almost decided to take it to personal offense because Mapleshade is my favorite alltime character ever in any series, but I respect your opinion.

[@idunno8869]

I TELL YOU I DONT *has mental breakdown*

[@laurascaldaferri7647]

I don't. You can't respect a opinion like that. Mapleshade is an amazing villain

[@juliealire304]

Jay_ Wingzz_ U must be restarted if u don’t like mapleshade

[@shriimpgore]

You shouldn't take offense just because someone disagrees with you, you know. Mapleshade's kinda in the middle for me.

[@juliealire304]

-Willowfern- bruh he is not taking offense he’s just stating his opinion

[@ahornminze]

I like mapleshade very much but every people has his/her own opinion.Also will be boring when every people have the same opinion. I respect the opinion of other and think`s interesting of their opinion.

[@gabreilhicks9855]

I like mapleshade to

[@shithead4283]

There are other words for people ya know

[@ItzSkyBound]

Are you... Are you on WCA? Like, I'm Skyleaf LMAO

[@ahornminze]

Itz SkyBound lol yes xD

[@rileyhosking_2788]

Mapleshade is my favorite character out of every villain... I would agree if she killed her (Old mate). Becaues of what he did to her. (Just take this as my opion in this comment section)

[@ApricityGlow]

My most hated cat is Slash. He felt like a One Eye wannabe to me and I could not find any good qualities in him. I like One Eye because he's a butt kicking elder among many things. And really? Slash is too lazy to hunt for himself?

[@nogard0497]

I thought Slash was One-Eye ever since I finished DotC. They Re so similar!

[@ApricityGlow]

Dave Muller Hardly. One Eye is far superior to Slash, and he should have been the villain throughout the last two books of the arc. Also, I'm curious, what made you think Slash was One Eye? It was stated many times they were two different cats, as well as they had different appearances.

[@gluppers2421]

I completely disregarded Slash, that was how boring he was. In all honesty, 80% of characters in Dawn of the Clans were really unlikable to me. Slash was cardboard, the background cats like Acorn Fur and Cloud Spots were forgettable and had barely any unique traits to make them seem interesting, Clear Sky was just... Disgusting, and don't get me started on Star Flower. I was quite disappointed. I would've thought this would be the moment for the Erins to make the first ancestors of the clans seem that more interesting, but nope!

[@nectarinn3]

Wasn't One-eye a she-cat?

[@ApricityGlow]

Dominika Jaskulska Yes, the ThunderClan elder. But this One Eye, without a dash.

[@londontait7014]

Okay, so I am totally prepared to be hated, but I LOVE Ashfur. I am not just one of the fan girls that love the evil angsty villain, but I actually can really relate to him. From the confusion on how he handled his emotions to the loss in his life really made me connect to him.

[@Distempetor]

London Tait same

[@tacocat9654]

Even though he was kinda like a moody teenager at some parts I always thought that he had a really interesting story

[@thatmomentwhen345]

So if you can relate to Ashfur, did you try to murder four people? Yeah I didn’t think so

[@Distempetor]

cARdbOarDFur Draws u totally missread the point

[@getrektsaydieyeahhyousucka6649]

London Tait i also really like ashfur

[@Rose_Equestrian17]

I saw the river clan symbols and I immediately thought “Hawkfrost?” Then bright guardian Akira says “Hawkfrost” Not creepy at all. Lol

[@geirokkuii5707]

happened to me too

[@microwavedmeimei]

me too lol

[@raine.mp4]

Coincidence? *I T H I N K N O T*

[@novillusscanarloup1505]

No its not

[@GusThePrankster]

He my least favorite cat

[@hilarymeyer4702]

I liked mapleshade's vengance

[@danagonzalez9228]

Hilary Meyer same.

[@lunar_proxy]

Same. But it would probably have been better as a super edition instead of a novella

[@briangriffinfan_numbah1]

Same, but I abhor Mapleshade.

[@hilarymeyer4702]

It would have been so that they could go more in depth about her kits and her emotions

[@sleepyshrimp1929]

Ashfur is a yandere even Yandere chan would respect... to a very high level.

[@Flame07518]

9:20 Chapter One: Alderheart breathed. Chapter Four: Alderheart inhaled. Chapter Seven: Alderheart exhaled. I think you get the point.

[@thatmomentwhen345]

“Prepare to see many disappointing villains on this list” Oh boy... here we go

[@skyelee7281]

I really like alderheart, but he is getting super boring. He's barely even his own character anymore and has almost no personality. I really hope he does something in Raging Storm so that I can feel as attached as I once felt to him. Also, I highly agree with Lionblaze. He's just a bore to read about, and I never liked his chapters. Especially with Heatherpaw. Him fantasizing about killing her is just sorta?? idk. he let his power take control of him, and I've never liked battle hungry cats.

[@yvainees]

oh hello, didnt expect to see you here yeah, at first i loved alderheart, a lot of people could relate to him, but he's just boring now?? i feel like the erins just want to write about twig and violet and whats going on with them, skipping over the protagonist we were introduced to at the start of the arc. i do hope they pick up on him again; my worry is that when he went to visit velvet to give her toy back, considering he spent a long time with her, he mated with her, just to make alder more interesting..

[@pridecat]

"more interesting" right. istg if I read about another forbidden romance I'm done.

[@yvainees]

i know right?? in my original comment i sounded like i was "all for it" but i meant it in a sarcastic way, that erins think that making another forbidden romance will make the character mOrE inTeReStInG

[@Stirling-Shade]

I am not the biggest fan of Alderheart but like you said skye lee some character development could help become and interesting char to read about.

[@Mia-bw5zg]

i totally agrre, skye lee

[@unpopulargoose]

I understand why people hate Ashfur and your points were much better than anybody else's. I kinda wished that the Erins made him feel super horrible or gave more insight on what happened to him after he died. There is no way that he was just sent to Starclan. He must've been in the Dark Forest first and begged to leave or he said he truly felt sorry. Now that I think about it, the Erins should've put him in the final battle to add to his character instead of having him not exist at all (unless they did but I don't remember). I'm sure the Erins had plenty of potential for Ashfur but threw him out as quick as possible. Because you know, *plot twist* thanks for reading my ramble if you did :)

[@trynottohappen]

Well, this aged well lol

[@cygnusone6442]

Alderheart breathed lightly as he ate air going through his lungs He inhaled and exhaled as he walked for no good reason he sighed becoming more concerned about his *air*

[@kingnamor7777]

I don't like her. I love Bluestar❤~❤

[@vocal9931]

I personally do not believe that BlueStar should be on this list, but I respect your opinion. Allow me to explain. To me, BlueStar really brought a sense of hopelessness and just overall emotional breakdown in the story, which I respect. Although her emotions may seem over the top and she may seem dramatic, once you think about it deeper, it makes more sense. All her life she had an incredible weight that switched from place to place, barely giving her enough time to really figure out what to logically do about it, so she decided to bottle up her emotions and replace it with focusing more on her clan instead of dwelling on the past, which is at the same time smart and stubborn. After she found out that one of the only cats left that she felt she could trust killed off or at least tried to kill cats that she had very close to her, along with all the drama that was happening way to fast for her to make sense of it all, she could barely keep hold her weight anymore, and all the emotional torment that she had to hide away for most of her life just spilled out making her feel utterly defeated, and for me, that means a lot.

[@FiveFoxesInATrenchcoat]

Velvet Wing Okay, but that doesn't give her an excuse to bring down her misery on literally everyone around her since she was an apprentice. Remember when she named Brightheart Lostface and indirectly caused Swiftpaw's death because she was too lazy to give them their warrior ceremonies sooner? She always thinks she's in the right, when she's clearly not over half the time. She's super bitter as well, and to me, bitter characters (especially ones who are bitter for no reason) aren't interesting to read about at all.

[@vocal9931]

MapleshadeDarkRay_YT, I did not say she was excused for that. All I am saying is that she was a well developed character and that is it. This is what Akira was talking about. Many people hate characters because of their actions, and never seem to care if they are well developed or not, and that seems to be the case here.

[@witherslayer-7315]

Blue Jay yeah, but she neglected to take care of her clan because she was depressed. You shouldn't feel sorry for yourself to the point that you shun everyone around you. Especially if you are in a position of authority like blue star was. These cats deserve a leader that will actually be there for them.

[@briangriffinfan_numbah1]

Bluestar was confirmed to have had dementia near the end of her life. Not depression.

[@GreenMachineSafeandLockVanleer]

I totally agree, she is my favorite warrior cat of all time.

[@jackyoshi4379]

I feel like your reasoning for hating Mapleshade is more like a reason for hating Mapleshade’s Vengeance. Just saying don’t hate me plz.

[@wafflesz9203]

EXACTLY

[@pineforest1442]

Jackyoshi agreed. His reasoning for hating Mapleshade, though he can hate her, falls flat on its face for me. In Mapleshade’s vengeance, it was easy for me to see things from her side and, though I would have preferred a different outcome, like she realizes she was no better than the cats who sent her kits away to die by way of murder, I can at least show SOME sympathy to her. The many books she shows up in afterwards makes her a character that you would hate big time. He makes Appledusk, Frecklewish, and Ravenwing, and even Oakstar, to be made out to be completely pure of evil, but they have done some questionable things too. Oakstar banishes KITS for StarClans sake, kits barely out of the nursery. And for what? Because they were the offspring of the cat who he believed killed his son. Appledusk dumped and cheated on Mapleshade. Why? One of the reasons was coverup, and another was because she had brought the kits to a swollen stream and wondered why they drowned. Frecklewish was clouded by emotion and nearly KILLED Mapleshade. If she hadn’t tried going to RiverClan and her kits were still alive, what would they do if their mother passed away from a wound that was infected. And Ravenwing jumped to conclusions about the prophecy he saw when he knew darn well that StarClan is always vague. Even though their deaths weren’t right, what they did to Mapleshade, although understandable, was very flawed and led to the death of her and her kits.

[@loup_perceptif]

Hmm i agree, Mapleshade isn't that bad, at least she made things...which is rare for villians...

[@meevins]

Seeing Mapleshade at number one brings me so much joy. I'm so tired of the fandom thinking she's a good character and is at all justified. All her problems where her own fault. She caused the death of her own kits. I don't feel sorry for her. She nasty

[@sam_destiny]

I like her, but not because I pity her. I completely agree with you, the only reason I like her is because she's a good villain (in my opinion). She ruined her own life and became one of the best dark forest cats. She's honestly such a dumbass that it's funny.

[@TheSlipperyNUwUdle]

I feel like the end of Bluestar’s Prophecy was incredibly rushed, by the time things actually started happening.

[@tiffany-ef6gm]

I prefer onewhisker to onestar... u know. He was so much nicer and the reason for tallstar picking him. Cinderheart is still a cinderpelt for me. Well i forced it. I rlly like cinderheart but u know she can be pretty boring sometimes but i do find her intresting

[@pokefan1045]

Rosetta Minecrafter I hate Onestar but not as much as Sleekwhisker as much now, she such a hypocrite saying it all of Rowanstar fault that Darktail killed cats, I am like, well I am sorry but seriously you didn’t try to escape, or do anything about it so stop complaining.

[@whydoyouneedtoknow1121]

Umm... I honestly don't like Cinderpelt that much...

[@ne0njuice782]

Bluey Video's yeah.. honestly I was disappointed with onestar and I thought he was an pretty good leader until he kinda became an jerk in thunder and shadow but then I found out why and then he died the only reason I didn't like him was because he was kind of an jerk his actions didn't make sense to me...

[@PixiBui]

A Little Bit of Trouble Why? I like her she’s a good character in my opinion.

[@kingnamor7777]

I enjoyed Cinderheart interaction with the power of three in my opinion. I love how Jayfeather try to help her when her leg was injured and try to break the 4th wall as well.

[@leafyxpin]

I love Mapleshade, Ashfur, Bluestar, Lionblaze, and Sol just because Sun in my country is Sol ;-;

[@reelreel1309]

Sol means sun in spanish so u live in spain?

[@reelreel1309]

@Im lazy i know. Lol

[@floofthenarpycat5363]

Mr. Fancy Fox Thanks :3

[@pineforest1442]

Mr. Fancy Fox could that have been what they were going for?

[@Octoweaponry]

Same I live in Costa Rica xd

[@umbreon651]

onestar was one of my favorite cats, keyword “was”. when he became leader he was so frustrating to read about, especially in crowfeather’s trial.

[@alyssapaws7896]

LITERALLY NOT LONG AGO: " Bluestars prophecy which I LOVE “ Now: “ aNd HeR sUpEr EdItIoN iS rEaLlY uNfOcUsEd AnD mEsSy “ Really? Which one? DO YOU LIKE IT OR NOT??

[@msbellebelle]

I just watched the video they say that in, so i was really confused when they said they didnt like bluestar

[@masochistsummer6302]

Ok which video did Akira say that first sentence? 😕 Cause I'm pretty sure he never said that?

[@PinkServal]

Akira likes the super edition's (old) cover

[@malica_mistyface]

Nex time "what, nothing hapend!", next time he's *DED*

[@gillianbrown8502]

My least favorite Warrior Cat character is the writing team. Edit: Also is it just me or are your designs/models getting even better?

[@qw10rtz]

Akira: he wont crazy 3:38 *Onestar does salto's in Thunderclan camp

[@zorsti]

Cloudy Draws He did a literal tornado into camp XD

[@n4taliee365]

You got Ashfur right. He got jelly of squirrelflight and Brambleclaw, threatens to say the truth about Hollyleaf, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather. And he tried to KILL the 3 cats who will have the power of STARS in their paws...

[@ottersir_2887]

Interesting video, i enjoyed it! But I feel like you should put more emotion into your voice? You seem to talk in monotone and its really hard to stay interested.

[@daniellesheets9706]

ottersir_ finally! Someone else thinks so too!

[@ericaallisonc]

ottersir_ it’s the holding out of every other word that gets to me. He speaks clear buuuut you doooont have to taaalk liiike thiiis.

[@serena-jg6np]

Ikr

[@lunarwings4481]

Yup....

[@jenmccullough6594]

I agree. He sort of slows down at each time he's made a sentence. I find really triggering but...eh

[@pridelandsqueen77]

I can understand most of your choices. I was surprised about Mapleshade but now that you explain, I get it. I really like the book when it first came out but I can see the flaws. I feel it was supposed to get the super editions treatment but for some reason couldn't and decided " really why don't we just changed to novella? We already did it for Tigerstar. It will sell like hot cakes !" Not realizing that we had 1 SE, 9 book with alive and 12 books as spirit to know about him. The only thing to do with Tigerstar was to explain his actions and how he became leader. It work because it made clear he honestly thought he was helping his clan, not realizing that blinded by his ambition and Mapleshade's guidance. He won Shadowclan because he gave his loyalty to them with a hidden price. However, even though we know Mapleshade for 6 books before novella, we very little about her. All we know was she had kits with Crookedstar's great-grandfather, she got exile from her clan, lost her kits, rejected by her mate, cause some sort of trouble as rogue and swear revenge on her former mate family. There was no mention of murder before now and it shortened length it end up glorifying murder. If we have more seen her crazy or saw nothing good come out of it then maybe. My only defense is the book does have a resolution but it very weak. It is to show why she continued to haunt her ex-mate family even if she got her revenge. I feel it would be stronger if they made a tenth chapter, something maybe tie in with to Crookedstar's SE. This what I came up off the top of my head: she see Crookedstar for the first time and can see there is greatness in him. Mapleshade swell in anger as think her past, the path to glory to a deputy maybe even leader that should have belong her or her kits or even kits' kins. Now she must watch as this great honor be will surely given to light brown kit that never should've been born. However, she stop and think. 'What if I train this kit? Could I make it so he would obey me and Me alone?' And in that was there in that stormy night, she decide she would use little stormkit. She would used Appledusk's kin to destroy ThunderClan, ruin RiverClan and end her faithless mate line once and for all. A rough purr pour out of her for the first time in countless moons. "Welcome to the world, Stormkit. You will be my vengeance."

[@sugarshanemos]

I agree with Sol, Cinderheart,leafstar (only in that one book), Alderheart, and Ashfur. I love Mapleshade. I could go on and on how I hate Appledusk

[@yensiifoox1833]

I’m glad you didn’t say Mothwing, Scourge, Cloudtail,Leafpool , or Spottedleaf because I love those characters!

[@horsesisters1666]

I like hawkfrost better than brambleclaw... WHOS WIT ME??

[@FabulousFeathertail]

FaNgIrLs ArE sTuPiD i like them both.

[@Violet-cy2id]

BRANBLECLAW IS THE BEST

[@FabulousFeathertail]

Violet C brambleclaw.

[@georgeharrisonslover]

Yeah i agree...i don't really like either of them but I _really_ don't like Bramblestar

[@Kahvetin]

Hawkfrost over Bramblestar. :D I actually hate Bramblestar.

[@modernchimera6969]

Reading the story of Mapleshade was very upsetting. Her behavior and justification made no sense, and although her story was set in a time long before the main series, it made no sense that she was the only forbidden romance with actual direct punishment for her decision. The other books rely on social problems than the leader banishing a code-breaker.

[@brightstar8190]

i mean with new leaders, moat would see it differently. sure there are a LOT of code breakers but all of that doesnt have to resolve to banishment. they'll be losing too many cats over that.

[@briangriffinfan_numbah1]

The prime reason she was exiled was due to the fact that Appledusk, her mate, had caused the death of Birchface, who happened to be the Clan leader's son.

[@lavledavle]

I hate it how ppl are defensive to the cats on this list. Its just his opinion for christ sake!

[@FlowerGriffon]

I agree

[@user-xl2ru5dq6r]

Mapleshade's my 4th favorite cat, and if I were in her shoes after literally everyone betrayed her, I'd probably go crazy and murder everyone too. I watched a video (Draiknator video) which made my hate for appledusk and love for mapleshade higher. It explained that mapleshade's only real option was riverclan, where she would most likely be yelled at. Mapleshade is a 'different' villain in my opinion. She didn't choose to be a villain, she was basically forced to.

[@winterblssms4703]

A lot of the hated cats are from ThunderClan...... *cOiNcIdEnCe?*

[@laurennn1224]

Gasp* Does he hate tHuNdErClAn?

[@souci1295]

My defenses for some of the cats I actually like mostly a joke and I respect this dude's opinion Bluestar-she was almost murdered by her deputy give her a break she's old she's sick and probably had PTSD from everything that happened Leafstar-shes the first leader of current skyclan and a former rouge you really expect her to know what to do Lionblaze-its cool to read about him getting over the fact that he's not invincible it shows a big part of the prophecy cats learning to live without their powers though dovewings was quite a bit cooler Mapleshade-im changeing my mapleshade thing i have a pretty good defense for mapleshade because I really like her- so she is more interesting in death than in life like yes I was kinda disappointed by the novella but I like her for after her death and how she manipulates cats in order to get her revenge and definitely helps build up the suspense in crookedstars promise along with a multitude of the other books also she's i think the first female antagonist of the series so there my actual argument for mapleshade Sol-sol was fun to read about and given more development in the manga if you haven't read skyclan and the stranger read it it's good so basically Sol was a kittypet(and the one responsible for harrybrooks horrible name yes leafstar named her kit after him) then joined skyclan under the name of sol after a while he got impatient stole leafstars kits before getting caught by waspwhisker and driven off swearing vengeance against the clans so he has a pretty decent backstory and I actually like him

[@mysryuza]

I expected ageism to exist in the defenses.

[@mysryuza]

And really? "Deal with it?" XD

[@georgecat2291]

I agree, but there's no excuse for Ashfur, Hawkfrost, or Cinderheart. Ashfur was a great guy his whole life and then boom! now he's trying to kill three cats. Hawkfrost was completely under developed and Mothwing should have gotten a few chapters in New Prophecy to fix that. Cinderheart is just Starclan taking pity on Cinderpelt so they gave her a new life just so she can have a boyfriend.

[@bowsicle8226]

Finally! Someone who thinks LionBlaze's chapters were interesting.

[@sandywolfr26]

Georgecat22 well it did show hawkfrost blackmailing mothwing. And the verbal abuse as well. That was enough for me to get a clear picture of him. Not to mention how he challenged mistyfoot orders

[@junaxy5833]

I really hate Mapleshade. People think Ashfur's bad? Mapleshade full on murdered three cats and attacked a pregnant queen and an apprentice. Ashfur attempted murder but didn't actually complete the crime. Honestly, both of them deserve to go to The Dark Forest but Mapleshade has earned it.

[@sej3274]

Screen: Appledusk Me: YES Akira: Mapleshade Me: *NOOOOOOOOOOOO*

[@idunno8869]

Please i hade a mental breakdown when he said mapleshade

[@Catty_-ro3fc]

I turned off the video

[@GusThePrankster]

She killed 3 cats for nothing at all and you like her? Wow that is very sadistic

[@Catty_-ro3fc]

@@GusThePrankster you will never be my friend

[@GusThePrankster]

@@Catty_-ro3fc well thats lucky for me

[@trashdraws2408]

What. Maple shade? This is one of my favourite characters, (thinks about it) Oh wait her character development really sucks

[@idunno8869]

YOU SUCK

[@hivecat1685]

I loved this list, especially Lionblaze and Mapleshade. I do wish you had placed Dovewing in the list due to her being another forbidden love trope and her story being predictable and cliche. Great art by Dakota and good video by you!

[@jewlshardz]

hivecat ii

[@rain-rianarchive2154]

I'm so glad you didn't put Firestar in the list. Great video! Keep it up! ❤

[@casi2759]

Honestly, and this is only an opinion.. Firestar was mostly the most predictable cat in the Warriors series. "Fire will save the clans." We basically all knew that he would've been the one to do it anyways. Also, he had a forbidden love with Spottedleaf but when she died he moved onto Sandstorm even though he still had feelings for Spottedleaf. Those are the only two things that really bothered me the most about him. But if you understand how I feel then I really appreciate it.

[@kingnamor7777]

Thank Starclan that didn't happen.

[@marybartels1977]

"We dated for two weeks, Ashfur. Two weeks, three years ago"

[@help4761]

The One Akira HATES for Real: Mapleshade Me: *Appledusk.*

[@debpatterson6291]

Yesh UwU

[@clickytipsy7483]

I dislike Cinderheart too. Literally her only development is that she's a reincarnation

[@Spottedstorm27]

I was disappointed when you mentioned Bluestar, but when you brought up Lionblaze, Cinderheart, and Alderheart, all was forgiven. I liked Alderheart at first but now he bores me. And then Ashfur came and I screamed praises to Starclan. Though Mapleshade did break my heart but eh, you had enough to agree with to not be upset. Here's my top 10 Dishonorable mention: Pinestar 10. Onestar 9. Heatherstar 8. Cinderheart 7. Hawkfrost 6. Rainflower 5. Lionblaze 4. Ashfur 3. Darkstripe 2. Twigbranch 1. Dovewing

[@CottonSpotten]

I also dislike Twigbranch. She abandons her Clan the moment before she gets her warrior name, then proceeds to do it AGAIN. Once she returns to ThunderClan she excepts them to welcome her and just hand everything to her? She also completely leaves Violetshine constantly and expects her sister to be totally chill with it.

[@thethree33aj17]

Thank you so much, finally someone who isn’t obsessed with dovewing! I HATE dovewing.

[@aleadom8256]

Kinda curious about Heatherstar, I really like her a lot ! To me, she is the exemple of a good leader. She can makes hard decision that would disapoint her entire clan just to make sure they are all safe. She also seemed really brave and wise. Why do you not like her ? (I totally agree on the rest though)

[@pangolinscribsy530]

Rn I’m okay with dovewing but I don’t enjoy her as much as the average character (like sootfur,Frostfur,etc.)

[@georgecat2291]

I agree with everything except Twigbranch and Dovewing

[@L0nelyghoul]

I have one favourite line in the books Night whispers pg 238 “How sick is little cloud?” “Sick enough to keep a cat hostage” (Remember shadow clan has Ivypaw/Ivypool)

[@peskiest_bird]

but- I LOVED ALMOST EVERY CHARACTER ON THIS LIST ALDERHEART IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES

[@Zenala]

I just can't take Brambleclaw AT ALL. He started out pretty nice in Midnight, his concept of "I'm not what people think of me" was pretty nice too... But then, out of sudden, he started bitching around after he started being the selfish trash and wanting to be deputy so badly while he was talking/hanging out with his OBVIOUSLY evil brother (the meetings with Tigerstar and his crooked motives would be enough, c'mon. You must be so naive not to notice that Hawkfrost had evil intentions), defending him to Squirrelflight (who was trying to warn him about it) saying that he loves her sister the same way and then saying "oooh, you dont belive me becous uf mah futher, im not evil as mah futher". MAN, I NEEDED TO HOLD MYSELF NOT TO SKIP HIS POINT OF VIEW CHAPTERS.

[@FernmistandCloverleaf]

THANK YOU OH MY GOODNESS I HATE BRAMBLESTAR SOOOO BAD, I'M GLAD SOMEONE ELSE AGREES

[@lottie5807]

Yeah. I enjoyed his character in 'The new Prophecy', but after that, he just became annoying and unlikable. He's far from being my LEAST favourite character, though.

[@briangriffinfan_numbah1]

I enjoyed reading about him at first, but he was unbearably stagnant as the books went on.

[@stitc9683]

YAS THANK YOU!!

[@sarafinch5873]

I'm so glad someone agrees with me that Bramblestar is just horrible! He is SO boring to read about, he was okay in the New Prophecy, but ever since he's just been horrible.

[@otterstarwarriorcats889]

I like Bluestar a lot, and it’s okay if u don’t like her! I’m glad u respect others opinions, because a lot of vids like this, ppl don’t respect others opinions.

[@aesyiia]

Lol top 10 saddest anime breakups Cinderpelt:NO! I can't feel this way every time you go into battle Lionblaze: listen....i can't be killed Cinderpelt:No kidding you were lucky so far Lionblaze: No I mean I can't there's a prophecy about 3 cat to hold all the powers of the stars in their paws and I'm one of them... Cinderpelt:NO I CAN'T DO THIS BAI SIS

[@oh_its_katie5212]

“Bluestar” *Screeches*

[@astronic9979]

*Laughs in i hate bluestar*

[@JonniShandor]

I love bluestar

[@JlMMOTHY]

*bluestar hate intensifies*

[@foxy-mg3xq]

i think you are right about the characters well i think that alderheart and mapleshade are good characters (and no im not saying that mapleshade is a good guy) but i can let you have your opinion

[@mariarachel1868]

I dont like Bluestar either. She was just too angry and dramatic. It got annoying.

[@pangolinscribsy530]

I liked her in books 1-4? She was so overused in the other books and in her super edition

[@sandywolfr26]

Scribble the Doggo well of course she was overused in her super edition. It was supposed to be about her

[@pangolinscribsy530]

sandywolfr26 I meant to put she was overused in later books and (in my opinion) dull in her super edition

[@greasyrat7090]

Red&Gecko oml I totally agree too

[@danagonzalez9228]

Red&Gecko bluestar was ok

[@Grimalkind]

whew, we really disagree, huh? Mapleshade, Bluestar, and Hawkfrost are among my favorite cats... but hey, each to their own!

[@crypticallumine]

But I dont agree with bluestar Or mappleshade.

[@astronic9979]

I agree with the Bluestar one, but who wants to hear my Mapleshade defense? With a flare of a bit of Appledusk defense.

[@kyaschafer7357]

@@astronic9979 I'm down

[@astronic9979]

@@kyaschafer7357 Alright. Appledusk never called his kits a mistake. He implied it he cared about the kits and blamed Mapleshade. I mean, she caused they're deaths. Plus, would you ruin your life just for a forbidden mate? He's technically in the right. But on Mapleshade's point of view, she wouldn't have known the river was flooded, she's a thunderclan cat, a mother, it was possible she was too focused on getting a home for her kits she didn't notice that the river had flooded. Correct me on shat. And thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[@kyaschafer7357]

@@astronic9979 actually you're 100% right, Appledusk is vilified because we only saw things from Mapleshades POV, things would be much different if we heard his side.

[@astronic9979]

@@kyaschafer7357 I'm gonna call out my kittypet son Pinestar, but people seem to think it's fine HE abandoned his children. (For a good reason tho.) Yet as soon as Appledusk takes a single step into whatever, dark forest, starclan, he's the devil.

[@lunarink2142]

Ah dang Alderheart's actually my favorite X3

[@emmagrace2291]

Lunar Ink same. He just needs more charecter development!

[@velella]

Me too, the Alderheart from Apprentices Quest is just so fun to read about, but as the series progresses he gets more bland.

[@rosie5349]

I hate Thistleclaw. He's just.... deep sigh I have 100000000 reasons and if I listed them, my comment would take a couple years to upload.

[@whydoyouneedtoknow1121]

Rosie, wow! A hundred million reasons!

[@makotnaegi4795]

What?! How could u not like Bluestar? She is awesome!

[@cricketen]

Adorable Fluff Ball Kittens AJ He never said he didn’t like bluestar, he explained at the beginning that the characters are boring to read about and stuff.

[@Violet-cy2id]

You are right, she is one of my favorite characters but how she just kind of acts like how she wants to die and how she just doesn't shown any emotional and doesn't bother to clean and prune herself any more...it's just..idk, but what really made me lighten up and just love her is that moment she (SPOILER ALERT) knocked the dog off the cliff, she risked her life to save Thunderclan. That made me feel guilty for not liking her.

[@kyaschafer7357]

@@Violet-cy2id the issue is the fact the Erins have NO clue how to write a mental breakdown

[@JonniShandor]

I agree

[@JlMMOTHY]

I really dislike Bluestar

[@cookiekattt]

I’m a bit late to the party but I have to say something to defend Lionblaze’s honor. He’s not boring. He’s the best of the Three. Also, since when did Jayfeather get a whole lot of development? When he went to the Moonpool a thousand times? Plus, it’s not like Dovewing is very interesting. Her whole “personality” is that she likes Tigerheart. Lionblaze is just so fun and interesting. He was a great change of character, considering all the previous protagonists were all serious and formal, whereas Lionblaze is more goofy and funny. He’s my very favorite character, and he’s been through so much, lost so much, and just doesn’t get enough appreciation.

[@tabifiedler6944]

Alderheart is actually my favorite character in Warriors. In the Apprentice’s Quest, his anxiousness and self-doubt, along with his failures at being a warrior and completing his quest was very interesting to me. It set him apart from every other perfect, sawdust protagonist in Warriors. (Like Leafstar) However, I really wish they would have expanded on his arc. He has so much potential as a character and instead of developing him, they wasted all the development on Twigpaw and Violetpaw lol. Also, Lionblaze is one of my favorites as well. I loved his struggle with his power and bloodlust, and he actually developed a lot throughout the overall serial. In the POT, he was an arrogant, selfish, immature apprentice. However, as OotS progressed, he grew into a more mature and responsible cat and a great mentor to Dovewing. Sorry for the long rant😂I totally agree with Cindepelt! My personal least favorite is Leafpool. Great video, sorry again for this essay😂

[@ingobreuning3878]

Samee

[@rvaem]

I liked Bluestar when she was normal. Also, mapleshade is my favourite villain, because she wanted to revenge how unfair people were to her. I get it, she was a bit dramatic here, but how many villains do we got who DON'T kill to be leader and rule the clans?

[@brightstars1517]

When you said...” Alderhearttttt.... “I Immediately went to the comment section to conplain.

[@ingobreuning3878]

Haha same

[@IhaveCripplingDepression]

Little did she know... Years later ashfur would became a well know good villain.

[@mordi17]

I do actually like reading about Bluestar

[@shadowstorm3999]

Cinder Has No Idea me too

[@penhead3480]

In Ashfur's defense some of his actions are justice if you look back to the first book his mother and father died because of the actions of Tigerstar which is Brambleclaw's father so it would make sense why he'd have a grudge against him when he only has his sister left. And besides Ashfur makes a good character for depressed people who know how it feels and can releate to him on a level I'm NOT saying what he did was OKAY it wasn't but remember that Scourge did much worse by causing mass genocide to other cats. If you don't believe me about the venting part go see Corvid Katana, but you guys can think what you want it's just my opinion^^

[@penhead3480]

Ashfur and Breezepelt are relatable characters through the naked eye, because of their issues these are real problems that people face in the real world. I have a friend who suffers from depression and he always tells me how much of a pain in the ass it is for him to deal with. Just think about it, the only person that Breezepelt had was his mother and she wasn't exactly the mother of the year either but at least she paid attention to him. People who make fun of their issues are just flat-out hilarious. And you don't see everybody justifying Scourge for what he did he killed thousand cats just because he was bullied. But I do respect your opinion, you don't have to listen to anything I'm saying^^

[@mammayamma8881]

agreed. I really like ashfur. He's one of my favourites

[@stoatwhisker384]

Mellowix lmao I relate to him oop

[@jewelsthecat5331]

SketchBook Just because his Kin died, gives no excuse to attempt murder on four innocent cats. Of course you’d be upset and possibly angry after a break up, but oh, you just go and murder your ex’s adopted children. That makes sense. He took it way too far. I personally think both Squirrelflight and Ashfur are in the wrong. But I respect your opinion.

[@vocal9931]

Agreed

[@givehimthemolkjosh2665]

I was surprised Spottedleaf wasn’t in here. I’ll give MY reasons why I don’t and never have liked her. 1. She was a waste of cat to make a dramatic death. The Erin’s obviously wanted FirePaw to feel super duper mad about something, so they kill if a cat like Spottedleaf because they can 2. No development. Aside from her own novella she had no development. Even her own hundred page book ashy truly about her! It had some nonsense about Thistleclaw and why he was a bad cat. Then it talked about why everyone else was good. Then it talked about how Spottedleaf uh, well what did she do? 3. Her presence was annoying. FirePaw joins the clan and proves himself. Then he hears about Spottedleaf. He thinks she’s cute but one visit to her den and he thinks he’s madly in love. They both think they love each other even though there’s no real evidence and they’re relationship had no real development. They both showed slight affection for each other and then she died. 4. She was overrated. I don’t know if I missed something but Spottedleaf just so happened to have a bit of skill with herbs and she was an ok medicine cat. She had a steady connection with StarClan. But then after her death she suddenly became this magical medicine cat that no cat could be better than. YellowFang commented to CinderPaw that, “you’re almost as good as Spottedleaf.” And CinderPaw continued to say that Spottedleaf was so cool even though she did nothing. 5. She refused to go away. After repeatedly saying she’s ok with SandStorm she refuses to leave FireStars head and is so annoying! She delivers every prophecy and continues to give gauge hints. She acts like she’s so helpful when her hints are pretty misguiding and unhelpful. You can tell as the book progresses she’s just there to deliver messages and try to get people to feel bad she died. Then she’s killed again thank riddance but cats are still crying over her death. 6. She’s a Mary Sue. She has no bad qualities. Let’s review her qualities. Sweet, caring, smart, loyal, fun, serious, pretty, lovable, helpful, great medicine cat, loved, popular, friends with everybody, can be stern if pushed. Ok now the bad ones, Um well, uh. Let’s see she’s um... Those are just my reasons I’m not saying you shouldn’t love her I was really annoyed that everyone fell into a depression after her death and so much time was wasted. Please tell me why you hate Spottedleaf!

[@M1_1SHR00M]

Hey If you are at the intro press this 1:18

[@MaxxBaseball]

I LOVE BLUESTAR but honestly I agree with you other than the super edition I also HATE hawk frost

[@elladelorenzo752]

hawkfrost is an evil cat, but he is a good vilen

[@lunar_proxy]

Personally, I really like Sol. He was different compared to the other villains, I was really unsure if he was meant to be a good or bad guy at first. And his time in the mangas was also interesting, imo. As for Ashfur, I don't like him at all. But I think his behavior is born from his time as a kit/apprentice. From his mother dying, he learned seeking revenge is okay (nobody had time to correct him because of the dogs and Tigerstar), he never learned that there's other ways to solve stuff, and by attacking the dogs he thought violence would be a suitable revenge. And in the battle of Bloodclan he learned solving problems with violence is also okay (once again, nobody would correct him). That's why he snapped when Squirrelflight rejected him. He saw it as another problem, that he solves with violence, because that's what he was taught. But that's just what I think. And Mapleshade, actually... She had a weakness before everything happened. Something was off from the very start. Yes, it's very subtle, but it's there. It might be difficult for the normal person to notice, but I did notice it. There was something about the way she thought, the way she acted, what she believed in... Something was wrong. She had a weakness mentally from before. By loosing her clan, her kits and her mate, that little weakness became a huge problem. That, of course, does NOT forgive her or justify her actions, murder is wrong! But it explains it a little bit. I feel like her story would've been better as a super edition instead, then they could've explored that weakness more than they did. Maybe show us how she got it, was it from birth? Was it an event that triggered it? Was there a cat teaching her bad lessons? Who knows. We sure don't The novella was, by the way, written from HER point of view. That's why murder is viewed as "good", because SHE thought so But of course, I respect your opinion. Because, well, everyone has different opinions. These are simply mine

[@lottie5807]

Actually, the Erins confirmed that Mapleshade had no mental illness. (And I do know that hallucinations can't appear unless you have a mental illness, but the Erins made the character). I agree strongly on all your other points though.

[@lunar_proxy]

Carlotta Coppola Really? That was kinda unexpected. She's written an though she has some mental illness/weakness. Huh.

[@nora._.4035]

I agree in everyone, just not Ashfur and Hawkfrost. I think they are very good characters, but i wish they did more in the series

[@floofthenarpycat5363]

:3

[@kirkthecat8685]

Video: Alderheart Me: how dare you! xD

[@sandywolfr26]

Hmm ashfur tried to kill 4 cats. He helped hawkfrost to try to kill firestar. Not to mention all the hints at his instability. When he was fighting with lionblaze. And shows how he not close to him. It like he was in the background stewing over it all. Just cuz he felt entitled to squirrelflight. Ugh hate nice guys like him. They wasn’t even mates. She viewed him as a friend.

[@dovefilms]

if ashfur was a person he'd be on r/niceguys lmao

[@sandywolfr26]

Dove The Nerd exactly

[@sandywolfr26]

Barn Owl Entertainment no she didn’t. She never mated with him at all. Ashfur is just one of those nice guys that thinks being nice entitled them to a girl. But I was nice to you! Why don’t you want me?! Squirrelflight only saw him as a friend. Just cuz you are nice doesn’t mean that girl/boy have to date you. It doesn’t work like that

[@mistyfilms7086]

I cried when bluestar died, I literally cried, with tears 😭 I love bluestar

[@starryxsky2915]

Antlers 100% yes her death was sad.. but she was pretty boring..I thought her story was pretty emotional but..she was a jerk to many cats and just let mosskit die! like she could've done something about it.. don't you agree? I mean.. she is relatable sometimes but still..she was a boring jerk in my opinion..I'm sorry for "attacking your opinion" (which I'm not..) but.. still it's my opinion and you can't change that (please don't flame me ;-;)

[@mistyfilms7086]

Ya your right but I just think bluestar, ( at the beginning) was really a cat you could look up to

[@serenitythesiren5031]

Me: *Looks down just because I really enjoyed and still enjoy reading about Bluestar's mental health during the books*

[@colorfulchameleon9891]

Mappleshade may be a bad character to some, but Shaplemaid is bad to none.