What *Should* Supergirl's Kryptonian Accent Sound Like?

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Krypton = Space Turkey Right next door to Space Australia. And _not_ to be confused with the Space Turkey, a monster who is a scourge to numerous quadrants.

[@ramengodzilla]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache The Legend With A Mustache Has Arrived

[@panthor109thabest7]

wgmovies no he is just some guy

[@cinammonstyx7622]

How do you italicize in KZbin comments?

[@tywillis2395]

Just Some Guy with a Mustache And far from Space Australia. Go Space Broncos.

[@OM19_MO79]

Do they speak Space Turkese in Space Turkey?

[@kofteistkofte]

Hi, a Turkish guy here. There is a "tiny" bit of mistake at the conclusion, Turkish culture entered Anatolia around 11th century. That's why I think Greek accent would be a better fit for this scenario. But if we think about it, current Greek and Turkish did coexised together a long time, so they might be have a similar accent for a non Turkish and non Greek speaking person.

[@kofteistkofte]

But there is a fact that can also support your theory. Turkish word roots (original ones, not the ones comes from other languages) usually is only one or two syllable long. It might get the feeling due to most of the Kriptonian we see is usually one or who syllable long words. But problem is, Turkish is an agglutinative language. So root of a word would be one syllable long but entire word would be 7-8 syllable long in use. And lastly: Kara means Black in Turkish.

[@ineedacode7974]

If you a Greek (like me), you can understand that there is a big difference between our accents . The Greek Televisions has a lot of Turkish TV Shows . :p

[@ineedacode7974]

you are*

[@kofteistkofte]

Yeah, for me, Greek accent is a bit faster and softer than Turkish accent. But they have tiny bits of similarities. And when I see a Greek speaking English, they kinda feel familiar. That's why I said that by point of view of someone who doesn't know anything about both languages.

[@Amonkai]

from what i have seen turkish history is very expansive i wish it was remarked on media , all i get where i live is tons of soap operas like fatmagul and sila those types

[@matthewalexander9277]

Something to remember - Krypton is an entire planet. A planet that seems to be unified under one government, yes, but still a planet. If you were asked to identify the accent for Earth you'd never be able to come up a single answer. Even if you treated Krypton as a large nation, which it seems to be, you still wouldn't b e left with a single, decisive accent; just look at how diverse the different accents in the United States are.

[@Rathkryn]

Well if the Earth blew up and the only survivors were from Boston, that's what everyone else in the universe would think Earthlings sounded like. Even in the Krypton series they're all in Kandor or the wilds. The only other city being mentioned is Kryptonopolis. And there are different accents between the guildless and the guilded.

[@SgtTwilight]

On an even smaller scale. I grew up in suburban North Carolina which had an accent far, far different than rural North Carolina (which I live in now), which in of itself has a different accent than deep-rural NC which is more akin to the stereotypical Alabama accent.

[@timeaesnyx]

Matthew Alexander Sarnovsky even Deutschland has multiple dialects

[@stigrabbid589]

Most nations have several accents or dialects of their languages unless they are really small (like Luxembourg). The UK has Scots English, Midlands, Geordie/Northern, Southern, Welsh, London and Manx to name a few examples.

[@MilesDashing]

THANK YOU. I don't mind when Star Trek treats alien civilizations as monocultures, but we've had nearly 100 years of comics to flesh out Krypton. We could maybe manage as much as Ursula Le Guin did in one novel for the planet Gethen.

[@mickaelfrimann]

I think a Norwegian accent would sound like Kryptonian. Like when my name Mickael is pronounced in Norwegian it comes out as "Mee-Ka-El". Can't get more Kryptonian than that.

[@NicaremE]

That's how it's pronounced in EVERY phonetic language which I think is most of them -_-

[@gamecitysavior2910]

Reminds me on Martian manhunter.

[@eddie-roo]

That’s how it’s pronounced in most languages with a phonetic alphabet, Like Spanish, Basque, Italian, Greek, etc.

[@ComicDrake]

I've been waiting for this video for ages! So glad it's finally out and it's as great as it is!

[@christopherrollerson6867]

Comic Drake I expect more lile one your comics because you're like a comic guru

[@christopherrollerson6867]

Likes*

[@timothymclean]

The script a language is written down in has essentially no influence on the language being spoken. The Latin alphabet is used all across Europe, but its languages and accents are highly variable. ...I guess there isn't really any other point of comparison, but that just means there isn't really _any_ point of comparison.

[@jadestephan7395]

I was going to comment the same thing...

[@marctelfer6159]

Me too (and personally I think it looks more like Glagolitic than any other European script)

[@Raja1938]

Yep, plus Turkish was written in a Persian/Arabic script until the 1920s when they switched to the Latin alphabet.

[@luisoncpp]

Maybe it could be possible to use the known kryptonian names to get an idea of which phonemes are used most and in which conjunctions.

[@Raja1938]

www.fortress.net.nu/tales2/chronicles/3/tree.php Here's Superman's family tree from the 1970s with a lot of names listed. The convention used for females, as you'll note, is that the girl takes her father's full name as her middle & last name.

[@SithSpear]

I like Auram, but I really think this episode is kinda bad. The alphabet approximation (quite remote by the way) is an illogical way to approximating the phonetics. The American and British accents are the prime examples. There alphabets are identical, but phonetics are significantly different. Moreover, the "latin" script is used in such diverse languages as English, French, German, Polish , Azernaijanian to name a few. They all sound vastly different from each other, regardless of the alphabet. Even if we follow your logic, Auram, than it should sound as some version of Greek and not Turkish. One reasonable way to go about guessing might be looking into what kind of alphabet it is. If it is syllabic like Japanese ones are, it might indicate that Kriptonians introduce extra vowels, e.g. Auram would sound like O-ra-mu. Doesn't have to be this way, but what I'm saying is intrinsic characteristic of the alphabet might show much more than the visuals of it. Just think of all the different fonts used in English alone. (Though I have to admit that Thor comics use different font to show the "Shakespearean sound")

[@SithSpear]

Auram's Comics! sorry, took it too serious😅😅

[@PutItAway101]

It seems illogical to speculate that Kryptonians have to end a syllable with a vowel, like Auram -> O-ra-mu when they have no trouble ending "Krypton" with an "n", "Zod" with a "d", "El" with an "l" etc etc. Everything else in your answer is on the money.

[@becc12able]

I cannot stop staring at Ron Weasley

[@ChaosRayZero]

And he can't stop creepily staring _at us!_ o_0

[@bobbyvee260]

I think if we heard untranslated Kryptonian, we would have a better idea what the accent would be like.

[@Raja1938]

The only TV/movie media where you'll hear any is in the current Supergirl series. The episode "Midvale" has the most.

[@sparkcrushervcm]

In the DC animated movie Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, Kryptonian is spoken as Esperanto.

[@canine8284]

laaaaaaaaaaaaame

[@bobbyvee260]

Ella Knefsky, I don't think it is a matter of should or shouldn't. The idea is if you know how the language is structured, what sounds the language uses and doesn't use, then you have a better idea of what the accent would sound like.

[@Nukestarmaster]

We wouldn't even need any of the spoken language, all we would need is the different phonemes in Kryptonian.

[@Raja1938]

There's no basis for assuming Kryptonese would have any similarity to Turkish, especially if you're going by the appearance of their scripts. The Turkish language being written with the Latin script is a modern phenomenon. It was part of Kemal Ataturk's efforts to Europeanize Turkey in the late 1920s. Prior to that, Ottoman Turkish looked more like Arabic.

[@gkgk6439]

Raja1938 And the old Turkish had a waaay different script that looks like the asgardian letters.

[@louisvictor3473]

@@gkgk6439 "Asgardian letters"... You know Scandinavians and their runes (specifically Elder Furthark in this case) are real and that is where those "Asgardian letters" are directly copied from, I hope.

[@macsnafu]

If we're really going to overthink this, then first of all, a written language really can't give you much idea of what an oral language should be like, so the comparison of Kryptonian to Anatolian is rather misleading. But what we can say is that, unless there's something about Kryptonian biology that we don't know about, they should be able to make the same kinds of sounds that humans make. Thus, there should be nothing about a Kryptonian accent that makes it sound exotically "alien" or extraterrestrial. Unfortunately, that's not enough to really narrow it down. However, we know that Krypton was something of a scientocracy, so there would probably be an emphasis on precision and distinction. In fact, what is quite likely is that Krypton, like Earth, may have had many different languages and accents, but settled on a particular world-wide language for standardization. But instead of taking an existing language like English, they probably would have created an artificial language that suited their scientific precision. So if we're going with something similar to the languages we know, I would take a closer look at Esperanto as a language that is more "Kryptonian-like".

[@oscarnemo8084]

Good points though Lojban is probably a better example. Hangul is worth referencing as well, as an example of simplifying written language to correspond to pronunciation.

[@sphynx7242]

Good point

[@oliviastratton2169]

There are several examples of Superman media using Esperanto as a basis for Kryptonian. So I think you're right on the money there.

[@codystork3008]

I am a communications major in college and all this discussion on language reminded me of the communication theory, C.A.T or the Communication Accommodation Theory which is the belief that communicators alter their communication to match the communication of others in order to blend in. Such accommodation can be seen in anything from crossing your arms, or whispering because your friend started whispering, and speaking in the same dialect or with the same accent.I wonder if Supergirl would employ C.A.T. because she was teased for her accent. Though the accent appears to only be from the one comic book shown in the video. My reasoning for thinking Supergirl may mask her accent is that the main reason accomadation happens is to increase positive attention or to decrease negative attention. Also does Superman speak with a American accent when he speaks Krypton's language? Or does he apply C.A.T when he speaks Krypton's language. Since Scott likes sources the book I am getting most of this information from is called Theories of Human Communication by Dr. Littlejohn(yes that is his real last name) and one other author.

[@eugenideddis]

Considering the lack of Kryptonians to learn C.A.T. from, (Jor-El being more of a floating head, and Kara not showing up until he was an adult) Clark probably still has an American accent when speaking Kryptonian. As far as Cara, it’s difficult to say. Using her natural accent is something of home she could keep at all times, but she also tries to think of Earth as a new home. (I use Cara as referring to her civilian persona, Kara would probably use her more natural accent whenever she’s Supergirl).

[@codystork3008]

Eugenideddis That is a interesting point Kara would probably act more Kryptonian when in costume I did not even think of that.

[@Velvet_Intrigue]

In the comics Superman's kryptonian accent sounds robotic.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

I remember in Superman/Batman: Apocalypse one of the first humans she encounters, while speaking Kryptonian, assumed she was speaking Swedish.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

Fun fact it's actually a mangled Esperanto

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@RoyalKnightVIII Oh, okay.

[@gunnaryoung]

I don't get it, because Kryptonian letters are pointy like Turkish letters, their accents sound similar?

[@FulcanMal]

It's more about the symbolic associations. The same way Dwarves in fantasy series often have accents related to cultures that live in mountainous or harsh geographic regions (Scottish, Russian, Norse, etc). Not because there's a logical connection, but because there's an artistic-symbolic one. The question was: What "should" it sound like? Sure you could say the question makes no sense, because it's an alien language and it could sound like anything. But obviously having it sound like an American accent would be far too coincidental. And since we don't have any actual alien accents to use as a reference, all we have are human accents to use as a base. So that leaves us with what we use as our criteria for determining what the accent "should" sound like. And the only criteria left to us is symbolism.

[@canine8284]

i found the fanboy (not you fulcan you're cool :))

[@imaginecomplexity7815]

Obviously "should" wades in to a deep jungle of arbitrary aesthetic choices and/or subjective experiences, but I think it's fair to say that just because a language shares rounded edges and points in its written form with another language means it should sound similar to that language is a stretch. I appreciate your example with Dwarven as it is, at least for me, a great example for your case that symbolism sympathizes with assumptive sound. However, I do take issue with a claim you made: Symbolism is not our only criteria left. Let's set aside the obvious default to some kind of vague British accent. Which is arguably valid solely on the basis that there is precedent, and we nerds use precedents like it's rebar when building our head cannons. Oh, and its roots are in symbolism. Instead, the parameters could be driven by assumptions about their civilization. Did they eventually invent a "universal" language once their world was united enough that dialectical drift (and other such language breeding effects) could be seen as a hindrance? If so, maybe their language is "synthetic" (something like Esperanto) designed for ease of learning, clarity, and versatility. If so, it's possible that their accent runs congruent with sounds their biology (and maybe ours?) has the easiest time with. Maybe it should be influenced with sounds that babies start to make first? I don't know, just spit balling... My point is that the claim they should sound Turkish because their alphabet looks similar (in one reference frame; after all we could also have only compared them to written languages that have a singular meaning in one contiguous symbol, e.g. HOPE) leaves me deeply skeptical, as does the claim "the only criteria left to us is symbolism". Again though, well thought out. I dug that Dwarven reference. It was a solid example to help bring home your point.

[@timh9834]

Yeah, though I don't want to fault the vid creators for trying, I was disappointed that the creative team hadn't done a bit more linguistic research. The visual appearance of a writing system has no relation to the sound of a language (beyond the variety of consonants, vowels, or syllables it identifies). The best example of all is how we use the Roman alphabet to write English. And the Romans appropriated the Greek Alphabet, and the Greeks appropriated the Phoenician alphabet. Ergo, using this video's logic, English ought to sound like Phoenician (a semitic language that maybe would have resembled the sound of Arabic, Hebrew, or ancient Egyptian).

[@ChaosRayZero]

Thank you, Tim H. I was going to post a comment similar to that (with a lot less actual research, lol X^D), but why bother when someone else has already stated it so clearly? ^_^

[@Redchocobo]

Alien language is always a fun concept to imagine. The earliest example I can remember of anyone using a language that's not from Earth is Geno from Mario RPG. That simple 1-second whistle blew my mind as a kid.

[@ChaosRayZero]

"I'm '♥♪!?', but it's hard to pronounce so... Call me 'Geno', after the doll." Given the way his name is written, and this video's -flawed- logic, I wonder what _his_ accent should sound like? =^p

[@oscarnemo8084]

@@ChaosRayZero The heart symbol traces back to the Indus Valley Civilization, which covered modern Pakistan, from which people have moved to Britain, from which America was colonized, so AAVE is a logical fit.

[@sphynx7242]

Alien languages with complete grammars is even more fun

[@mitchellphillips4691]

Maybe she just super adapts and stuff.

[@tonyyoung3985]

In the comic story that became the movie, Kara wonders why her cousin speaks Kryptonian like a college professor. She obviously speaks in a common vernacular.

[@renjikuriakose1848]

Oh my Rao, it's Lex Luthor at 1:00

[@cjhs2006]

I Loved The Accent That Chadwick Gave T’Challa in The MCU Movies he Was in,I Just Thought That it Made Him Extra Sexy #RIPChadwick #RIPTChalla

[@agentsquid9079]

Whether he played Robinson, T’Challa, or just being himself, Chadwick will be remembered forever as a 👑 in our hearts.

[@benpebbles4111]

This is out of nowhere

[@raidenvakarian9362]

"The Carian language was spoken in the territory of modern day Turkey, so Supergirl should have a Turkish accent" is like saying "The Massachusett tribe occupied the territory of modern day Boston, so when depicting Columbus interacting with natives they should have a Boston accent". And that's even without going into the major leap of logic that if two alphabets look vaguely the same, their languages should also sound the same (by that logic, most of Europe, most of North and South America and all of Australia would have one dialect). I don't normally comment on a video that will be 4 years old in a few months, but I just had to get this off my chest. Barely a thing Auram said has even the faintest basis in linguistics or even logic.

[@concernedcitizen6313]

So, speaking as someone with a BA in linguistics, I can tell you that the orthography (writing system) used by the speakers of a given language has no bearing on how it sounds, except in so far as the sounds represented by the orthography (if it's alphabetic, as opposed to ideographic, as in Mandarin, etc.) will tell you most if not all the sounds that are present in the language. So, if there's no representation for "v," it's a fair bet there's no v-sound -- unless there's no z either, in which case the symbol for "f" and "s" might represent "v" and "z" between vowel and/or at the beginning of a word (provided the next symbol is a vowel). All of this being said, having at least a vaguely Finno-Ugric (which includes Turkish) accent would be different and would break the trope of "alien accent = English accent," and that would be a nice departure. So, essentially, while his reasoning is flawed, I wouldn't object to the final product.

[@mikaylaeager7942]

I imagine it sounds like a Hebrew or North African accent, because Superman’s creators were Jewish mainly but also because Kal El just has a very Hebrew feel to it. North African because if anything the alphabet looks like African alphabets with all the boxes and triangles.

[@Velvet_Intrigue]

I love the idea of kryptonian sounding Hebrew. That's perfect!

[@raidenstark315]

How batmam learned kryptian? My theory he managed to got one of those crystals, and was able to learn everything about kryptonian culture

[@djgamez1412]

They should have all Kryptonians have a mid Atlantic accent, cause it would be very funny and cause that accent is also artificially constructed

[@rkvc]

Next video: Scott riding hover boards.

[@ajsguineapigs7942]

It's Ron, he's behind you!!!!!

[@ajsguineapigs7942]

Ron is super freaky. He's looking at me!!

[@Buzterer]

we can also aply this issue anything from atlanteans to martians and beyond. Personally I woudn't mind hearing some fictional accents on DC movies

[@TheMangakid1995]

I fail to see how "these letters look vaguely similar so they must be pronounced in a similar way" makes any sense. It's not like the letter is A is shaped specifically to reflect the sound associated with it.

[@TheSpeedForce0621]

We didn't get a Turkish Supergirl, but we got a Russian Supergirl( Red Daughter CW)

[@artichoke873]

For all other Kryptonians, absolutely. But in most continuities Kara spent quite a long time with the Kents, and is very intelligent so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that she gleaned their accent while learning English. So I think Supergirl gets a pass, but then Rebirth... I dunno man. I totally agree about vague menacing Space British. Great Video!

[@DTDdeathmas]

I think it would be better to generate a uniquely Kryptonian accent. I think there is enough info to do that by basing it off the pronunciation of established kryptonian words and the exacting diction.

[@davidgrebe8650]

I'm wondering why an alien written language similar to an ancient Anatolian written language would mean the spoken accent would be similar. Most European languages have a written language even more similar, including American English, and the accents are very diverse .

[@Charolette21]

Kryptonese doesn't exactly roll as well as Kryptonian, it's like calling the English language Americanese/Britishese, it simply sounds wrong.

[@SuperCrazyfin]

Englishese*

[@Charolette21]

Exactly

[@Raja1938]

Both terms were used in the comics for years.

[@OM19_MO79]

TheBobBrom That doesn't make sense at all. Applying that logic, then we should call kana and kanji, Japanese; and the people and everything related to Japan, Japanian?

[@RHR199X]

OM19 MO79 Nipponite

[@outpostalpha]

As long as she's in 'Murica, she better speak with a 'Murican accent, dagnabit! J/K Neat topic, great video!

[@ivopoulsen]

Honestly i always pictured Kryptons as the Anunaki so always thought of them as a middle eastern like dialect

[@buenahschoir]

With that said, keep up the good work, Auram...

[@kingnitros]

Supergirl would sound super adorbs with a Turkish Accent.

[@ScarletSpeedforce]

Great! I've waited for this forever. Great thing you broke it down.

[@gmoney4980]

A Kryptoian sounds like a British Klingon. #Facts 😂😂😂

[@Xavier-kc2kd]

There is the fact that There Intellect could allow this to happen faster as well as the fact that children tend to develop these accents better and faster when at younger ages.

[@timh9834]

Hi NerdSync, the shape of Kryptonian letters ought to be irrelevant to how the language would sound. I mean, for one thing, Japanese is alternately written in pure Chinese characters, pure Japanese syllable letter, Roman letters, or a mix of all three. Alphabet alone doesn't influence language sound. For example, "Kryptonian" might even be derived from a dead language on Krypton just as our alphabet ultimately derives from Phoenician.

[@MythologywithMike]

Not Turkish. The Turks didn't come to Anatolia till 6th century. Krypton would likely sound more like Greek since Anatolia was under Greek influence for centuries.

[@ComradeCrab93]

Awesome video, enjoy your vacation!

[@tophfan]

next time when someone asks where i am from because my accent i will say Krypton

[@CyberViking97]

fun video, i agree that the kryptonians should sound more than just vaguely British. But the letters of the language doesn't decide what it sounds like.

[@Madhouse_beatz]

Should sound like a mix of Dothraki and Gaelic, commanding but elegant. (Edit)Good vid, nice to see a channel take a break from avengers topics

[@DeathRecon97]

I don't really buy it, spoken language and alphabetic characters are not enough to link really. The characters chosen by a language are built and chosen, mostly arbitrarily and often intentionally but an accent is something that is moulded by spoken conversation with people inside and outside of a community, it's a lot more organic and natural. To link the Turkish script with the Kryptonian one is cool and all but I wouldn't say it would have any real bearing on the spoken accent.

[@ShaunCKennedyAuthor]

How an alphabet looks won't say much about how the language sounds unless it's a featureal language. Hebrew and Arabic are really close in sound but look nothing alike. Irish and English look a lot alike, but sound very different. One thing that might speak to this is the fact that their language phonemes can map nearly 1 to 1 to the English alphabet. www.omniglot.com/conscripts/kryptonian.php This would indicate that they have sounds very close to ours. It's more likely that they have an English, Canadian, or German sounding accent based on that. It's when you start getting into things like Spanish vowels being pronounced differently or the aspirated consents of Middle Eastern languages that you start brushing into the more exotic sounding accents. Really the relevant questions are: how do Kryptonians handle vowel lengthening? Do they roll their R's? How do they divide their syllables? That will tell us more about her accent.

[@fromchomleystreet]

This is why I like the fact that Gal Gadot has an accent as Wonder Woman. If she really existed, she would obviously have an accent that would sound foreign in the context of the US.

[@ChaosWulff]

I'm sure someone's already mentioned this here but I can't be arsed to trudge through all the comments but just had to get my thoughts in here: The one thing I thought was interesting that was left out of the conclusion is the sheer reliability factor of having the protagonists speak in the same accent/dialect as the target audience... Yes these shows are seen internationally but they are made primarily for the US market, just as an aside: I'm British living in Norway so there is certainly no bias coming from my end. Love the channel and all the contributors... Yes even Oram ;)

[@pintpullinggeek]

So all Kryptonians should have the same accent as each other? And that accent should sound Turkish because the alphabet looks similar to one that was used there thousands of years ago? I believe the Doctor summed it up best when he told Rose that "lots of planets have a North".

[@miramarto]

At first glance I thought Scott was in a hospital room wearing a hospital gown!

[@TheDwellerofthelane]

Awsome have a good vacation Scott

[@louisalectube]

(Haven't seen the video yet. Can't resist) "Crikey! Doomsday's attackin'! Be'a cawl the Justice League!! Bloody 'ell! Wha' a monsta!"

[@louisalectube]

My memory is not good, but I know I had a Superman comic from the 90's that I literally translated from the Kryptonese they used. I _think_ it was a comic from after Zero Hour where they were re-establishing the DC Universe as a whole. This Superman issue was a little more lighthearted, and I think it was a re-telling of some of his origin story (or maybe a "what if Superman landed on Earth as an adult"?) Damn I really can't remember. _The point is:_ Whoever wrote that issue made it so that he used Kryptonian symbols that kind of "resemble" American English letters. For example, the "Super man diamond with an S in it" was an S. Once you figure out several letters like this, suddenly you can read it! That was fun. All of the Kryptonian word bubbles made sense in the scenes they were in. I wish I could remember what issue that was 8-/ SO...I mean, that's the definitive Kryptonian written language for me. No need to learn a whole new language ;-)

[@louisalectube]

Aaaand now I just googled Kryptonian...I have to say it's not matching what I remember exactly. I found the correct version, but my memory is crap and the issue in question is from over 20 years ago 8-/ Oh well

[@eugenideddis]

Did Constantine show up suddenly?

[@nathanlawrence3317]

I came up with one as I researched origins of name and came up with my own version of a kryptonian accent R doesn't roll T is always enthisised H is silent When two vowels are next to eachother only the 1st is used W -> V

[@zhrenir]

At first, I thought he was in the hospital until he said vacation and California

[@rkvc]

Arifin Haji too be fair, one usually leads to another 🤣

[@camerongrow6426]

In a Superman Batman Supergirl movie we did hear the spoken Kryptonian language briefly. But I have no idea if it was based on turkey or just giberish.

[@PixelatedH2O]

Hey Turkey, listen up! We have Turkish Star Wars, now we need Turkish Supergirl!

[@gulce4940]

no prob

[@Chayat0freak]

they should sound Turkish because their alphabet looks slightly like that used in ancient Turkey? That makes so little sense.

[@truejustice940]

Dean Sturgess Yeah that's how language works. She's fictional so it's impossible to know what it sounds like but the writer form has similarities to a dead greek language Turkish is derived from that language ergo she could sound Turkish.

[@FulcanMal]

It's more about the symbolic associations. The same way Dwarves in fantasy series often have accents related to cultures that live in mountainous or harsh geographic regions (Scottish, Russian, Norse, etc). Not because there's a logical connection, but because there's an artistic-symbolic one.

[@Chayat0freak]

A more logical way of doing it would be to look at the phonemes we see used. Like the ones that make up propper nouns in kryptonian and look at real world culture that favour those phonemes. It'd still be really rough but much better than conflating the look of a script with the sound of a spoken dialect

[@tigrezangel]

I like the topic of this video. That's something I have wondered myself. I liked what was done with Wonder Woman. She has a different accent that makes her stand out. So, I agree the Kryptonians should have a more distinct accent 👍

[@andyrihn1]

In the Superman/Batman: Apocalypse movie we do get to hear Clark and Kara speak Kryptonian to each other

[@benpebbles4111]

That intro was cute.

[@kevrulz06]

I don't know.....seems like they really reached for that one. Just because the Kryptonian alphabet looks similar to this Earth one in appearance?

[@TheMysterysea]

Linguist (in training) Here! yeah it has always bugged me they never mention this. younger Kara would definately sound different, however if she was bullied/teased, it is possible that she worked to consiously change her accent.

[@HouseholdWheel]

I was really distracted by Ron starring in the background

[@clarisacalderon9555]

now I'm curious about the original kryptonese alphabet

[@jackcassidy9963]

What are the comics at 1:20 and 1:45

[@theepoopydoodoo]

This is something I've never thought about. Wow this all makes sense

[@gudmundursteinar]

yeah, but the Turks invaded Anatolia 1000 years after your last recorded date for Karian Greek. Furthermore Turkish and Turkic languages are in the Altayic group of languages, unlike the various forms of Greek which are all in the Indo-European group of languages. Furthermore it matters if she is a Zor-El (fully alien), Danvers (partially alien) or Erzatz Clark Kent (the current CW show, where she is basically Clark Kent).

[@louisjohnson5239]

Yeah well Americans sound super alien to us 😂 loved the video man, I love how you take little things like this and make fantastic videos out of it.

[@deathknight75]

Ah yes, Surpergirl.

[@Rathkryn]

Just because the language is drawn the same doesn't mean it's pronounced the same. Nor does the fact that because in 100 AD people talked a certain way doesn't mean that it's the same accent they speak today. Especially considering the amount of conquest that has occurred in that area. And in Melissa Benoist's case her Supergirl was specifically placed in a home that would help her adapt quickly to the Earth so that she'd be safe. Although I do think it'd be cool if she talked with a different accent as Supergirl than she does as Kara Danvers. But it's not like she's Laura Bailey or Tara Strong. They could pull off any accent you could dream of.

[@cameoshadowness7757]

Weird BUT I NEEDED THIS! It's really nice. I love how this kinda just pops up. I love world building and would love if the movies/shows/comics managed to show it (in some ways more)

[@mickaelfrimann]

I think Kryptonian, especially Kal-El sounds very Norwegian.

[@oscarnemo8084]

Emphasis on the El part, so not that Norwegian.

[@robertjackson3552]

why would a planet have only one accent

[@aadityaphadnis8399]

Nice video but the way a language is written almost never gives us an idea about how it is spoken let alone about the accent.

[@alexhess4774]

Will you do a video telling us how your vacation went?

[@cadden9938]

Interesting video. This is only semi-related, but according to James Gunn, every member of the Guardians of the Galaxy except for Groot has a translator implant that allows them to understand and speak any language programmed into the implants, including English.

[@cadden9938]

To my knowledge, he hasn't said why Groot doesn't have one. I'd guess it is due to his stiff and inflexible larynx, which is physically unable to speak English.

[@cadden9938]

The people of Asgard in the MCU probably have these implants, as well. It would explain how Thor and the others know English.

[@Khrysalis01]

Cadden99 Well, Thor & Co. know all the languages of Earth, since they are gods and all. Specifically, Thor speaks Alltongues according to Marvel.

[@cadden9938]

Khrysalis01 I didn't know about that. Thanks. While Thor has this ability in the comics, it isn't referenced in the films. In Avengers: Infinity War, he (minor spoilers) says he took a class to learn Groot's language. If he could speak Alltongues, this class would probably be unnecessary.

[@cadden9938]

My guess is that the translator implants are the film version of Alltongues since there is a line in the first Thor film that implies Asgard's magic is actually science too advanced for humans to understand.

[@DanyTV79]

Symbols of a language doesn't represents pronunciation or intonation: that's why Phonology and Linguistics are needed.

[@cadden9938]

5:53 ". . . exact approximation . . ." Um . . . what?

[@avalpsychicguy]

Nice typo in the title. Also, what, no example of what a Turkish accent sounds like?

[@avalpsychicguy]

Auram's Comics! Ah, well. I guess it can't be helped.

[@ArticWS]

Please don't use "African dialect." Africa is a continent, with thousands of languages. Calling them dialects lessens them. Otherwise, great video.

[@ArticWS]

(And yeah, I know in Age of Ultron Banner uses the term "dialect", incorrectly; we should follow that example.)

[@cinammonstyx7622]

He might mean dialect in the linguistic rather than colloquial sense: what we would usually think of as an accent.

[@JB-1138]

Luka Nieto Sure thing white boy. Please tell us how to represent Africa.

[@ArticWS]

It was a criticism of linguistics, nothing more.

[@ArticWS]

He was using "dialect" in the context of a language, in that sentence, not an accent.

[@MegaBlase1]

Yeah but also adults can adopt to accents, dialects and learn to speak without a foreign accent. It's hard work but it is definitely possible.

[@wanaan]

So the non-clickbait version of the title would be “what language probably inspired Kryptonian in the Supes comics?” Interesting thoughts though.

[@fawkesthedreg]

“Surpergirl” lol

[@WatchThatFirstStep]

@6:01 Supergirl S03E13 "Both Sides Now" had the titular character speaking Kryptonian. kryptonian.info/news-feed.html/2018/02/07/supergirl-episode-313/

[@robertt9342]

Good attempt and all in good fun. Denying one Earth accent in favour of another simply because the alphabet had straight lines is a pretty far leap. Depending on interpretation, there is also evidence of using symbols to mean whole words, which would completely change your conclusion. What's even more coincidental is that the Kryptonians have an alphabet that can be directly translated to western alphabets. Even looking at our own planet this doesn't happen.

[@Lucarioguild7]

Interesting thought experiment although with all the "coincidences" Kryptonians have with Humans it's weird to get hung up on this one thing. Although what I would want to hear more of is Supergirl speaking more Kryptonian

[@gbzzlqbjavat]

But just like in the real world if u spend enough time some where u start to take on their manurisms and accent just like my nieces boyfriend u wouldnt really know that he is Bosnian because he's lived here long enough that he is amercanised he's been here since he was like 8 but that being said not everyone adapts to thier suroundings

[@TonySpike]

Sorry dude, i dont buy that in the slightest, for a couple of reasons 1) you cant simply match characters from two languages to come up with a dialect, after all americans, australians, english, welsh, scots, irish and canadians all have their own dialects despite using the same language and alphabet (predominantly ...yes i know quebec speaks french and welsh is a thing) ....hell some have dialects specific to where they are from WITHIN that country Mine is a mix of Doncaster and Barnsley for example 2) you cant match ancient turkish ...to turkey or be that specific After all the ancient English ....didnt speak English with an English accent, hell they probably didnt speak English at all Modern English is a mix of celt, french, danish, pict, latin and anglo saxon as it has evolved over the centuries and has been influenced by many foreign languages as they have invaded the country For example the word beef comes from the same root as the french word boeuf wich was picked up during the norman conquest Trying to read a letter something from as early in our history as Magna Carta is a very strange experience, as some words/names are not spelled the same ...and their are some words that we just do not use any more Saying that ancient turks spoke with a turkish dialect is just as unfounded especially when you consider that constantinople was conquored by the ottoman empire, the byzantines and even the mongols during its long long history So yeah, i applaud the effort but i dont think your conclusion holds water to be honest

[@PrincessOzaline]

I just love that when Siobhan learned Kryptonese she still spoke it with an Irish accent. I was hoping they'd bring back that take on Silver Banshee in Rebirth, but now it's cancelled.

[@Werevampiwolf]

I forgot about Aurum's Spiderwoman shrine lol. I love it

[@leelewis926]

This was all very interesting, but never really went anywhere. I think you should put out a challenge to a Conlang group to see if they could develop a Kryptonian language. Such groups are very refined and might come up with something phenomenal.

[@65Drums]

Krypton letters kinda look like a Middle Eastern language alphabet.. Therefore it must sound just like it? Loved the video but the end didn’t make sense. Cool video though :D

[@jeremycline9542]

You're argument is flawed and based on it one could say, "If the Kryptonian alphabet were based on Cyrillic, Supergirl's accent should be Russian." I would be delighted to hear a Supergirl with a Turkish accent, but you're talking about an ancient alphabet of a people who were not Turkish (as they arrived centuries later).

[@EmethMatthew]

I love this video!

[@DokutahAce847]

In the animated movie Superman/Batman apocalypse both Superman and Supergirl speak Kryptonian and that's my basis everytime

[@TheChocoboKid]

That shirt clearly distracts the fact you shaved your head. We only know the head is shaved because you said so.