What the '90s Thought the Internet Would Become

The predictions of the 90s and the 2000s. Such a time. Such a good, good, nice, good, time.
Ya know, the internet is a pretty new thing right? Like, maybe not the internet as a concept, but, as a “mass public service” and whatnot. People didn’t use it all that much back in the day.
So this time let’s just talk about the internet. Good times.
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[@ComicalRealm]

I remember in the 90's when I made an email account with yahoo and my entire family thought I was a serious computer genius.

[@Allangulon]

But could you set the timer on the VCR?

[@ViciousViscount]

supah hacker, teach me

[@NotVeryRandomDude]

Some things never change.

[@klauserji]

mandatory "hackerman" meme

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Either your a genius or your family is dumb as hell lol Tho I can relate my mom alway asking me for every of her computer problems only to have someone fix it lol

[@MrDN83]

I like how David Bowie was the person closest to understanding the real impact of the internet.

[@meowmasterL346]

Man was always ahead of his time in music & fashion, makes sense 😌

[@_zigger_]

Meme school

[@thevisionary2007]

He understood time AND space!

[@DaFinkingOrk]

@Xavier Definitely a connection with not thinking you know best. Accepting that you aren't certain and could be wrong, not thinking you're intellectually (or morally, socially, whatever) superior. Not enough people like that.

[@khhnator]

well, he was the only cool white person after all

[@dreamhollow]

"Books being digital" is actually a huge deal. There was a video from someone at Harvard and they were talking about how Google wanted permission to copy all the books in their libraries. It was eventually granted, but the actual resources it took to scan all of those books end to end was absolutely massive. Don't take E-Books for granted. Printed-then-scanned books took a lot of effort and time to make possible. We just live in a time where it's somehow fathomable that it actually happened.

[@fredrickseiler4492]

"Takes picture, turns page." Repeat. Yeah, not sure why you think this is so spectacular.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

With books and lectures able to be mass reproduced on the internet, why do people pay tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to college? For some, doctors perhaps, it makes sense they need certain proofs of competency. But none that should demand such high costs.

[@MarkTrades__]

and yet i still just want an audiobook version lol.....my god how truly spoiled to information we have become

[@MarkTrades__]

@@fredrickseiler4492 its not that simple to provide high quality images of pages of books, especially if those books are older.

[@MarkTrades__]

@@kamikeserpentail3778 monopolies.

[@PrimmsHoodCinema]

I had dial-up and I would download and print jpegs of the Super Smash Bros Melee characters before it came out. I couldn’t believe they put Falco in the game lol

[@bashthefash420]

Oh shit it's primm, he an all star.

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

We would do the same but instead of Jpegs we would download the cheat code pages and print them out when we couldn't go to the library.

[@Wowitzkay]

Make a new video bruh

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

@@Wowitzkay bro made a video 2 weeks ago 😭

[@DoUbLeH9]

I remember downloading sonic 06 image and it was this disgusting pixelated mess of green and blue once I made it as my wallpaper and no one could tell what it was aside from me. Back then we only had a tech demo with this god awful low quality teaser on IGN which would take FOREVER to buffer and it wouldn’t even work most times.

[@blinkriddle]

I love how you sound like you're desperately trying not to sound like Kermit the frog

[@Schixotica]

Lmao brutal

[@magentaplatinum1430]

Thanks, I can't unhear it anymore

[@xmhnab8737]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LingusDaDingus]

I was about to comment this

[@probablyparker4044]

“Kermit the frog here and today we’re talking about the internet during the 1990s and what people predicted it would become. With Miss piggie!

[@ronchat9204]

Bowie: ahead of his time Everyone: not surprised

[@idnyftw]

the man who fell to earth, and all that :)

[@bpqd2624]

3:25 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA f@ck you silly baby boomer from the 90s interviewing David Bowie, the internet will consume, auto tune, photoshop, deep fake, make fun of, deliberately mistranslate, misunderstand, over exaggerate and in general corrupt everything you have ever known to be normal!!!!

[@goroakechi6126]

@@bpqd2624 …yeah. Kinda what it was made for.

[@ryandyer3466]

@@bpqd2624 But David Bowie was a boomer so why are bringing up the fact that the interviewer was a boomer.

[@tanszism]

parasocial

[@jwood8769]

I remember going to DisneyLand, I think universal studios. I was at the “ day of tomorrow, and they was talking about the “ modern home “ and where in the future you would be able to grocery shop online and have the food brought to your home. I thought it was craziest idea ever. That was back in 94’. 27 years later and it’s part of everyday life that we shop online.

[@SollowP]

Just to emphasize how important the internet has become, it's even regarded as a necessity in the same way that power, water and heat is a necessity in homes. Say that to someone 25 years ago and they'll think you're crazy.

[@Al_Gore_Rhythmn]

Yeah, in order to clock in to work, to make money, I need a smart phone with data

[@Psx806]

I still think your crazy lol

[@Imxel21]

@@Psx806 then you’re not that bright. In this day and age the internet is vital.

[@Psx806]

@@Imxel21 oh I’m aware and disregard it. I don’t need the internet to live and relying on it will get you nowhere.

[@micmacha]

Or to some members of congress.

[@MrZedblade]

In the 90s the internet was that annoying sound someone would hear when they picked up the phone in your house while you're online.

[@FireAngelZero]

And don’t forget getting kicked off the internet if said phone was picked up… used to love downloading a song overnight and at 99% point gets cancelled because someone picked up the phone…

[@MrZedblade]

@@FireAngelZero Or forgetting to include the *70 in the dial up phone number to disable call waiting, and having it suddenly disconnect without you even knowing why.

[@screamcheeese7175]

Hell, I heard that sound up until 2008. My town didn't get high speed internet until then. So we had dial up and it was terrible 😆 One hour to load one freaking music video on KZbin.

[@iamagi]

Nooooooooo ?

[@Kehwanna]

You mean the sound that made aliens officially decide not to talk to us? Yeah, I remember that obnoxious noise that would wake everyone up.

[@ChengTeoh]

Don't forget that if you lose your internet connection during a download back in the olden times that you'd have to start the process all over again! The HORROR!

[@MinogFarted]

Oh hey, i haven't seen you for a long time You're that guy in DarkViperAU comment section

[@nimbizol811]

verified boi

[@lgbt2686]

Its still kinda the same if u download through chrome or edge or whatever

[@thisdanguy]

@@lgbt2686 is it though? I'm on Firefox and if a download failed at say 40% you can right click the failed process to continue it and it still would be in 40%

[@nexusthesylveon4727]

I still have this problem

[@killval849]

David Bowie was so in tune. Sometimes I've heard critics attach the notion of him being a time traveler. Always ahead of the curve, and in fact, what you explained what he said in the interview was precisely correct, it's really incredible, what a brilliant man.

[@JishinimaTidehoshi]

Da Vinci was a time traveler. Bowie was from another planet 👽

[@lleheer752]

media theorists were talking about these things since at least the release of TV

[@malte1984]

i was born in 1989 and we got internet in like 2002/2003. of course it is super helpful but sometimes I miss the days without it... people talked more with each other. everything was more social. the Internet made everything so anonymous. Back in the 90s it was normal to just go to some strange dude on the street and ask him for directions or just have a chit chat.. today people look at you strange if you do that. it has become so hard to get to know people or make new friends... the age of the internet has also become the age of lonelyness.

[@da_silent_gen_guy]

I was born in 2003...

[@Jashi-do-y]

I was born in 2005, turned 19 this year, and my childhood was with DVD, I still remember going to DVD stores time to time until around 2015. For context, i live in Southeast asia so the internet is still new until 2010 I miss the pre-internet time and sometimes I do hate the internet

[@damonconway149]

Email will never defeat the time tested tradition of ye ol rock with a note tied to it thrown or slung at the person you want to deliver it to.

[@lajya01]

In the workplace, it's all still emails despite all the new communication tools.

[@leentrails5388]

Dope pfp

[@jsgwam]

@@leentrails5388 I almost feel jealous now

[@robbietorkelsonn8509]

@@lajya01 you mean the ones owned by big corporations ... i swear some people will never get it

[@sc885]

I flap the meat until my sound waves slap about

[@AgentofChaos315]

The rare case where people predicting the future thought we would be lower-tech than what we actually got.

[@drunkenpumpkins7401]

I'd like to compare people who dismiss the internet than with people who dismiss crypto currency today. Back than, the internet was not a lot. Sure it had stuff like forums, fanarts ect. But nobody could predict the internet would replace physical movie releases, or music CD's. Back than a lot of people couldn't apprehend how the internet would change the world. Just like how people nowadays aren't able to apprehend how crypto currency will change the world.

[@R.K_Chalkboard]

@@drunkenpumpkins7401 No, it already has/ is changing the world, and anyone who says that is a dumbass. I have seen people say nothing but good things about crypto. Maybe in 2016, but 2020-2021 was an amazing year for crypto, 2021-2022 will be even better.

[@Spyce09]

@@drunkenpumpkins7401 I highly doubt that crypto will ever change the world as the internet did.

[@tahafury]

@@Spyce09 that's the sort of stuff people were saying about the internet back in the 90s but really you'll never know until the time comes

[@Spyce09]

@@tahafury we wont, but the internet had millions of different implications and possibilities while crypto is being used as a tool for scammers and people buying illicit goods. The biggest proponents of crypto (Musk) stopped taking it as a valid source of currency for cars. its just difficult to see a future imo

[@scottsavage460]

In 1983 (when I had a 300 bps modem and the internet (arpnet) wasn't publically available) I told my mother that one day we would be able to use the computer to order groceries. She laughed and told me that I needed to stop wasting my time with computers and learn a trade that would actually provide me with a REAL future.

[@raynemichelle2996]

It's actually incredible how I've seen the world change. We didn't have the internet at home until 2000. It was cable, not dial up. But I remember Napster, then other file sharing platforms. I forgot which year we got wifi, but definitely the late 2000s. I didn't get my first mobile phone until 2010 (when I was 25), and I didn't get my first smartphone until 2014, so, I was behind on that.

[@theJellyjoker]

The internet is not a big truck, it's a series of tubes!

[@theJellyjoker]

@Manuel Camelo kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZS9dGltrL2IitU

[@jaredcrue7099]

Aluminum Tubes! :P

[@twothreebravo]

@@jaredcrue7099 Do you know what a brother could do with aluminum tubes?!?!

[@ATSucks1]

Remeber at the start of covid lockdowns, massmedia morons kept in begging us to get off line because too many people were using the internet at the same time and we were gonna break it with too much netflix binging....we were busting them tubes and data was gonna leak everywhere. Then one of the ICANN dudes told em to quittheirbullshit and I couldnt laugh at massmedia morons on that no more cause they did quit their bullshit.

[@DoctorX17]

I thought it was pigeons

[@FelipeJaquez]

Nobody in the world could have predicted the modern day internet culture

[@DaFinkingOrk]

Black swan event

[@Serdier]

veggietales

[@50Steaks68]

True

[@darthbanana7]

@@DaFinkingOrk lindy

[@spectrum5156]

A M O G U S

[@StefanVeenstra]

Back when I first used the internet, was 1998, I envisioned it would replace paper and analog. There wasn't much to go for back then, but even my 7 year old mind, even though I did not understand how it worked, but I noticed the obvious potential of this international network, this world wide web.

[@tucosalamanca7037]

You were busy eating dirt and not washing your hands, shut up lol

[@cdvideodump]

@@tucosalamanca7037 r/lewronggeneration

[@BradyR95]

@@tucosalamanca7037 you think a 7 year old can't think critically?

[@GraveUypo]

@@cdvideodump it was obvious, i was 9 in 1995 when i first got internet and i thought the same freaking thing. in fact i totally copied my assignments from the internet encyclopedias on pure copy paste and always got full marks for them, because well, no one else had internet. They thought i actually made the stuff. good times.

[@kaledoublescope]

Took me a second to realize it was the KZbin’s narrating and not an employee of the news station :D

[@saudrrr8198]

The internet is humanity’s second fire in terms of how life changing it is.

[@Ditidos]

I wouldn't say that, it isn't that big. I would say it's more comparable to the telegraph. Or the printing press, possibly the two combined, but more like the telegraph I would say.

[@Morec0]

And just like fire, it can and will burn us and everything around us if we do not keep its use under absolute control.

[@Auden.]

Electricity then internet

[@mirroredvoid8394]

@@Morec0 You can't control the internet even if you tried.

[@Morec0]

@@mirroredvoid8394 which is why it's an absolute monster. Fire is still accurate, but its hellfire.

[@Ikcatcher]

The internet is probably the best and worst thing to ever happen in our history

[@Tyty-qi2gu]

Oh hey I remember seeing you on every video comment section I watched in 2017-2018

[@user-vn8cx4qx3p]

Imagine if a Cave man Found out about the internet

[@StudieryThing]

@@user-vn8cx4qx3p they already have (avarage twitter users)

[@diebackmischung503]

I mean that cancel culture probably developed cause we can get too much info too fast and too many conversations too quick now

[@dark_hood7]

​@@diebackmischung503 yeah and idiots can meet other idiots share their dumb ideas and then get in groups and protest about how vaccines are bad and the world's a pizza..

[@UmmYeahOk]

For Christmas in 2000, my father purchased a few gifts from the internet. I ended up with a portable CD player that read data CDs filled with MP3s. Typically parents are totally lame, and not into new things. So the very idea that my father gave his credit card information and address to some stranger on the internet as well as not only purchase something, but a thing so few people knew little about (mp3) blew my mind. I didn’t even know such a product existed, and I already had a collection of mp3s. I mean, my mom wouldn’t even give any personal info online for several years to come, not even bank online.

[@jessiejamesferruolo]

Im so happy that, as a person in their mid 30s, I got to live my early childhood before all of this happened. Then as a teenager, I got to see how technology and the internet changed our world. What a time to be alive....

[@zephyrna6249]

Imagine trying to convince people in the 90's that entire countries will have revolutions because of the internet, that culture wars and espionage occurs on it, and that countries can use it to wage war on each other.

[@matotpater61]

They would call you a loon or weirdo Or try it in the 1900s You would be locked up

[@danielg.w5733]

I mean. That was the plot of so many 90s movies, books, comics, and video games

[@matotpater61]

@@danielg.w5733 , name a movie

[@grillygrilly]

The cancer of online political activism.

[@Treviisolion]

Well Ender’s Game predicted it (though it greatly overestimated the impact two random anonymous kids on their own political forum can have)

[@LeDank]

I finally understood the power of the internet when Napster came out. One lesser know struggle from having to buy physical music wasn't just the cost, but the fact you couldn't always get what you wanted. You were stuck with whatever the local store had in stock.

[@cheetahluv210]

Which allows you to access various niche genres of music and Learn more about music history

[@swifty1969]

not only that but you had to buy an entire album for just one good song. I myself was forced to purchase many CDs for only one track.

[@LeDank]

@@swifty1969 literally most albums were sold because of whatever singular hit song was on it.

[@cheetahluv210]

@@LeDank well that’s true but it also made a lot of people appreciate the value of a well made album rather than just the single so it’s pros and cons

[@LeDank]

@@cheetahluv210 I still listen to whole albums to this day because I started out listening to CDs.

[@dannyfoxboi]

Imagine traveling nearly 25 years (or even further) into the past and showing people the tech we have today. I'd love to see their minds get blown by the things most people nowadays take for granted.

[@gaywizard2000]

I remember 25 years ago. I'm sure we would have expected tech to explode into what we have today. What still blows my mind is the impact of social media, the suicide rate in youth, the misinformation era that leads to fascists like Trump and Putin, the anti science movement when we should be smarter than anything in history. Technology I expected, stupidity and racism is a surprise!

[@dannyfoxboi]

@@gaywizard2000 Stupidity and racism was always a thing, and unfortunately always will be. With newer technology and things like the internet, it's just a lot easier to see it nowadays.

[@user-kg2lp8jz2r]

Going into Rome and playing wii sports in front of the emperor

[@ThatFuckinGame]

The internet state of today its a shit hole compared to what it was 25 years ago. It got prettier and faster. Wich was expected in 96 or 95 to be. The worst thing that could had happened to the internet was the massive integration with smartphones and social media to the current state of the internet. I'm pretty sure interner enthusiast from the 90s would be disgusted when seeing things like tiktok.

[@user-zz3kr3un8e]

You better ve afraid of Ai :))))))

[@hulahulahup]

Please do a lot more of these, they're very informative and entertaining.

[@raptorfromthe6ix833]

internet is just nothing more than a fad just like those automated carriages or jazz music if you can call it music

[@onofriomasina4916]

this

[@danielrodrigues4903]

Lol And people say the same thing for brain interfaces today. Can't wait for 30 years later when they change the world several times more than the internet did!

[@C02detected]

@@danielrodrigues4903 sure put a chip in your brain, nothing bad can happen from that right?

[@AverageAlien]

Jazz sucks tbh

[@jsgwam]

@@AverageAlien True. But just think for a moment that because of the invention of the Internet I'm able to send a random message to some stranger on the other side of the planet for all I know in the blink of an eye.

[@stainmaster2630]

I love that Bowie clip so much. Man was just so ahead of the curve.

[@sirshackinoff5773]

I can’t remember when he wasn’t

[@passione6443]

Meme School

[@taylor22222222]

2:20 wait a minute, I remember loading a whole page took some time, a few minutes sometimes, but it didn't take hours to listen to a song... And definitely not hours for a jpeg. A jpeg was more like 30 seconds. Not fast at all, but the old dial up modems weren't hours slow for a simple jpeg photo...

[@NicolasDarknessWolf]

I just love the 90's and they being like " oh it's just a phase, time to go back to my tely, yet the television was mocked by the newspaper "

[@doggonemess1]

Erm, having lived through dialup, I can tell you that a JPEG like you described did not take that long. Judging by your numbers, it looks like you used the wrong baseline. 56 Kb per second works out to around 360 KB per minute. You could download a small, simple jpeg in about 30 seconds or so. A typical mp3 song (not that they existed much then) would be about five minutes or so. I've been trying to figure out how the numbers got so fudged. It almost looks to me like you either used the wrong time scale (bits per hour) or possibly calculated 56 BITS per second.

[@chris7263]

I wondered about that... I don't know anything about the math, but I used to look at fanart on dial up, and it was slow compared with today with much lower resolution, but nothing like as bad as he described.

[@HadleyCanine]

Yeah, the math on those download time estimates is... iffy. At 56kb/s, that JPEG file would be ~75MB. The mp3 would be around 7GB. Didn't bother checking the Call of Duty estimate though, that one sounded close enough to me.

[@Anon-ic7yu]

Indeed,I don't understand how on the planet earth you get the idea that a jpeg takes hours to download

[@nanonymous9139]

Agreed. This didn't sum up.

[@CosineStdio.h]

Did some back of the envelope math on this cause it sounded really wrong to me too. at 56 kbits Call of Duty Black Ops 3, which steam says uses 100 Gigabytes of drive space, would take 161.4 days, less than half a year (Assuming constant speed and connection). I don't know what he's doing to get 740 years. Even misconverting bits to bytes or vice-versa only gives a power of 8 in error.

[@josiahhockenberry9846]

Futurists definitely undersold the internet, but not even Bowie could've foreseen the dumpster-fire known as Twitter. 🤦

[@cattysplat]

People just didn't understand how to make it economical. The idea of people paying for digital stuff seemed unfathomable. Apple built it's entire Ipod empire on the back of pirated music, before creating the Itunes store. Now people will buy all sorts of digital nonsense, let alone music, movies and games.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@cattysplat paying for digital stuff

[@TheHuskyK9]

And Reddit, and Tumblr, and 4Chan, and **insert currently popular social media site here**

[@32BitJunkie]

Especially youtube comments

[@poll1051]

@@cattysplat I'd only consider that for 90% of stuff on phone's stores, and I wouldn't consider Steam that bad either. The reason I'm saying this is the downfall of mobile games and their ads not really home consoles or PCs, because that's entirely separate from your point

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

That Pokémon World website actually looked really solid by 90s standards. I think it still looks fine.

[@saucyx4]

My jaw kept dropping first at the 3 hours than two weeks to download one song than saying COD would take 740 years to download was insane like that’s so crazy

[@chris7263]

I grew up with the internet, got my first online art gallery when I turned 13 only weeks after discovering people *could* post art online, and it seemed like fun new things kept evolving just as I got old enough to want them. Now I look back, and the biggest surprise is how all that wild energy and creativity and excitement got cannibalized and reshaped by a handful of mega corporations into the dreary SEO-optimized hellscape of today.

[@Maid_of_Spiders]

Capitalism will do that to ya.

[@natedash11]

From wild pastures to the lifeless corrals of social media.

[@SiberianScytheYT]

@@Maid_of_Spiders REJECT CAPITALISM, RETURN TO- *insert something else here*

[@capnsteele3365]

@@Maid_of_Spiders see at the moment I can't comprehend how the internet would form without capitalism. Because in another world where other economic and political systems were a majority, I don't think the internet would arise. People not havw a need as they would be doing whatever there's a technology advanced

[@Maid_of_Spiders]

@@capnsteele3365 Honestly I think any invention that came about under capitalism could have been achieved without the system. The internet was not made to make money, it was made to connect people and distribute information over a large area. Capitalism takes what something does well, it's original purpose, and twists it into making profit its sole motivator. I dont blame you though, most countries in the modern world have been subject to decades long propaganda campaigns convincing us capitalism is the only way to run a society. That's just my opinion from observation and research though, ultimately it means little in the grand scheme.

[@yetinother]

I didn't realize that I was in the .0?% of people who had "internet" using a 1200baud modem. Amazing when I was like 8 years old playing around on bulletin boards before http and www where even a thing.

[@Tripskiii]

me too me too! then AOL came around and everything changed.

[@cattysplat]

The green text on black background based Matrix internet before HTML, when the internet was just you dialling into other people's servers, the glorious ASKII art and the terrifying prospect of message boarding to an actual human being potentially anywhere in the world.

[@videogameguy101]

Damn. Now THAT’S an OG internet user right there lol. Before and www.???

[@MustacheDLuffy]

What was it like?

[@thesnare100]

some non-internet dial up BBS still exist to this day.

[@Albeit_Jordan]

1990 Interviewer: it's just a tool, isn't it? Me: you're just a tool

[@samueltrujillophotography]

In my opinion, the Internet "dominion" came with the smartphones. Back in the early days of the Internet, it was accessible only via a PC. So you turned you PC on and then connect to the Internet. After that you just turn off your PC and continue your day. However, with a smartphone, you are connected 24/7 since is always on, always connected and always with you.

[@lostpaws2178]

Yo, your journey from a historical channel to this has been wild, man. Legitimate inspirational stuff.

[@christianmoore7109]

Before that it was about geography

[@AlcoholicBoredom]

I wouldn’t call it inspirational just yet. As someone who used to watch this channel religiously before his breakdown, he’s just posting little clips of things, with his signature voice. The whole 90s narrative that was totally interesting has now gone fully off track, and now people are complimenting him for nothing.

[@Sean12248]

@@AlcoholicBoredom He made alternate history hub right?

[@jinjunliu2401]

@@Sean12248 that's his brother

[@Sean12248]

@@jinjunliu2401 Oh alright I never knew that. Thanks!

[@GeneralWiser]

2:16 56k is 7 kilobytes per second, so that "roomba" song file that takes 12 days to download would be 7*12*24*60*60 = 7257600 KB / 1024 / 1024 = 6.92 GIGABYTES! That's over 11 hours of sound assuming it is at 1411 kbps CD quality! The heck is that song?!

[@widowmakerx7]

Also apparently the new CoD game is 163 Terabytes, I've decided what they did was math for a 56bit connection instead of a 56kb

[@Chrissy717]

@@widowmakerx7 lul

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@widowmakerx7 which is half the speed of even the first computer modem (110baud)

[@TibrisXVII]

I downloaded a lot of MP3s back in the day on a 56k connection, took at most a half an hour.

[@Jayloke]

Yeah it’s off by orders of magnitude. He should clarify this in the comments, it’s definitely misleading for thousands of people being left out like this

[@CoasterMan13Official]

Love your vids, dude!

[@StimkySkunko]

"Something exhilarating, and terrifying." Yep, that's pretty much modern Internet in a nutshell.

[@joebaumgart1146]

When I was growing up in the early 90's youtube was unfathomable. Literally the idea of streaming a video on your computer was beyond impossible.

[@notmewtwo4044]

30 secs of video would take me 15mins to buffer. At times even more.

[@WillmobilePlus]

When I got "cable internet" around 1998-99, I used to stream the old ZDTV video feed, but it only worked like at 11pm.....on a good day. I think I managed to stream a "Real Audio" program barely in 1996.

[@robertharris6092]

Seriously? i wpuld watch various sci-fi movies like lost in space and think it was only a matter of time before stuff like touchscreens and the facecam streaming was real.

[@cattysplat]

GIFs and flash videos were created to provide a video like experience using animation with low FPS and high compression. However it was streaming technology which has advanced the most, providing instant watching capability without needing to download a complete file before watching.

[@joebaumgart1146]

@@cattysplat that's still amazing.

[@malicekerendu3574]

The most accurate prediction of todays internet has to be serial experiments lain

[@SpiderandMosquito]

That and Freakazoid

[@assistmans]

“And you don’t seem to understand”

[@FamilyTeamGaming]

Yeah, I watched Lain very recently, and it's very interesting how topical it is nowadays considering it was a low budget anime from 1998. Seeing how early in its infancy the internet was back in the day, it's impressive how it managed to predict even relatively abstract concepts about technology and the internet accurately within reason.

[@damial]

That anime was truly a masterpiece ahead of its time predicting so many things. Still underrated asf

[@dysphoria-chan]

Althought it isn't explicit about the internet, Perfect Blue is also a good prediction about how we see our behavior on the media

[@adaptable1553]

Bro, this is one of the only channels on youtube where you don't see the outro coming at all, because there isn't one. Like, people start preparing for the outro and stuff by saying: "Well, i think we should wrap it up" or something like that. No- He just up and ended it when he ran out of things to say.

[@Hadam10Rose]

I used to think the internet was just going to be something that exist at offices and only rich people would have it at home. Didn't have it in my home until 2005 and even then it was dialup and didn't have real internet until 2010. So I really didn't bother with the internet until I was 20. Before that it was just something I saw at school or when I was at my parents offices for one reason or another. I can remember printing stuff out just to take home and read because I wouldn't have to time during "computer lab free time" once all the school work was done to read the articles I wanted. I have binders of long lost media at my parents house still. Well I'm pretty sure I do.

[@432HzUSA]

The anime Serial Experiments Lain from the 90s has a very interesting interpretation of the internet in the future. The real world becomes interconnected with it and its honestly a huge trip.

[@sailormoonfreak]

that’s the first thing i thought of while watching this vid

[@Pikaroth]

Present day. Present time.

[@sterasigma8734]

An alternative title for this video would be "How We Are More Messed Up and Optimistic Than We Thought".

[@thatscrazyyyyyy]

3:57 WAP

[@nebulousisgod]

Thanks for the nostalgic reminders. I remember most people pretty much knowing it was going to be a huge part of our lives in the future, in some way. I do not recall people saying it was a fad. People weren’t that dumb, we just didn’t have a ton of information yet so we didn’t know what exactly to expect. I do remember every webpages looking ugly and cheap as hell.

[@jekanyika]

I remember when people used to print out webpages.

[@infiltr80r]

I did that. Printing technology was not that different from today. Laser printers were already common.

[@sonnyboi1761]

Yeah, i remember printing out cheat codes to GTA San Andreas.. man i miss those times.

[@TundraXD]

I work at a software development company and one of our business clients does that when discussing design. We’re talking last week. It’s hilarious.

[@caininabel1529]

Shittt I still print things out, mostly guitar tabs, because I love physical copies that have no battery life

[@jekanyika]

@@caininabel1529 Tbf that's not the same as printing out the home page of a website.

[@knowledgehusk]

I have a second channel where I only talk about 'Home Improvement: Power Tool Pursuit' for the SNES. Check it out. kzbin.info

[@tylerhackner9731]

Awesome

[@infinitelybanta]

Finally, someone tackling the hard news.

[@roboturtle1429]

Thank you for giving us news about what Tim Allen is up to this time.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Can confirm, Whimsu is a channel for exclusively Tim Allen Construction Show, the Sitcom: The Game

[@ROOSTER333]

McAfee didn't kill himself

[@sketchpad7116]

Great video! I'd love to make stuff like this, and I'd like to know, where did you find all the background videos? And stuff like music?

[@kevindeese9628]

Love the vid kermmy

[@tardvandecluntproductions1278]

I'm really digging these episodes of looking back how we thought the future would be. It really shows how our future predictions are so heavily limited to what we are thinking about at that point in time.

[@MaximizedAnimation]

I love how you used a lot of early CGI short films and test demos in the background of this video. Really sells the primitive nature of 90s Internet

[@Littlefighter1911]

"THE CLOUD" me expects either Cloud from Final Fantasy or Claude form GTA 3. But I sure damn was not expecting a cloud from Mario.

[@YISP7]

I remember downloading a new car model for NfS4 in 1999. The description told me: "Even if it's 4MB, it's worth the huge download size and the model looks very good!". 23 years later and I can't even hover my mouse to the download folder before it's finished.

[@WoWplayer527]

Remembering the days in the early 00's when i would do basic things like setting up an email address, restarting the PC to fix a bug, or even just accessing a webpage, and my parents thought i was soke sort of 7 year old computer genius. It took them a long time to stop thinking about computers as this super complex thing. Actually, my dad still doesn't know how to use a smart TV

[@danese1636]

Oh my god, I remember when Netflix first started streaming their videos online in, like, 2007 or 2008 or something like that, and my dad and I were PISSED because of how SLOW and how much BUFFERING there was!!!!! ...Meanwhile here I am watching every video and movie I could ever want online with a single google search!

[@cattysplat]

Now there is just too much stuff. Someone please make it stop, slow it down, shut the endless spam of memes, reaction vids and stream highlights up. But the machine continues to turn.

[@matotpater61]

@@cattysplat Too much, can't choose And too little, no choice They both are kinda the same, aren't the

[@CardCrusher29]

Netflix streaming in 2007 wasn't bad on a broadband connection. The main issue back when it began was the selection. It was dogcrap compared to the dvd/bluray section of Netflix

[@bigboomer1013]

@Bender Bending Rodriguez does game still exists

[@Morphoidism]

@@bigboomer1013 I think it does, but from my experience it sucks.

[@swilson-738]

awesome vid dude

[@PurpleFX1]

My old piano teacher told me that when he was a student, his teacher told him that “the information super highway” was coming. Which was another way of saying the internet.

[@sambarrett6445]

Wow, that cloud sounds like internet communism. As Marx famously once quipped "the working class must seize the means of production, and processing"

[@diablo.the.cheater]

which is weird because the most near thing to that thing is the network of cryptocurrencies, wich is like the most capitalist idea ever.

[@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234]

Seems like it's the only place where communism has worked

[@nyahnyahson523]

@@diablo.the.cheater RAW CAPITALISM INCARNATE

[@skybattler2624]

And like communism, it doesn't work. I mean, as explained above, Security, bandwidth, and computing power will be happered so bad due to background processes. And being selfish human beings, nobody wants someone across the globe to access their own devices if it actually hampers the performance/data of their own device.

[@thisisaterribleargument_but]

@_𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪𒐪_𒐪𒐪 yeah in Minecraft servers or other places where everyone actually gets along, not on a large scale

[@Kehwanna]

It's so surreal to me remembering being a kid and using the early internet. KZbin appeared out of nowhere and gained popularity quickly. 30 years went by and it seems both like much has changed and yet, like not much has changed from the 90s and 2000s either.

[@ivanquiles4903]

You Tube blew my mind. My Dad of all people told me about it lol

[@sjogosPT]

KZbin is very new man. I used alot Internet before youtube and i had alot of fun back in the day. IRC, Msn messenger, napster for download music…ahh these were great times

[@user-vn8cx4qx3p]

And it doesn't even feel that Long ago

[@squiddyft.insecurities3549]

@@sjogosPT youtube is old

[@dominiclombardi5305]

I was a little kid in the 90s and I remember dial-up. You had to utilize a phone line to access your computer so you couldn't send or receive calls on your landline while online. And I remember the ridiculously slow internet speeds. My how things changed so fast in just a couple decades.

[@ntajyaj6775]

Thanks for the explanation Allison! :)

[@WillowLackett]

Remember when buffering was an accepted part of KZbin, that they made it possible to play snake while your video loaded?

[@francoifrancuhh]

"thats a cool arrangement of wires my guy"

[@pacefactor]

"undersold it" your not kidding. I am pretty sure our biology wasn't ready for this level of social interaction and information access. To the point I think its super harmful.

[@hi-tych]

Super harmful

[@RoboVenturer]

Only if you don’t regulate personal usage

[@davidwuhrer6704]

Harmful only to everyone else, of course, or you wouldn't be here.

[@pacefactor]

@@davidwuhrer6704 nah this shit fucks me up too. I smoke as well. Assuming people won't do something knowing it's harmful is pretty naive

[@user-kg2lp8jz2r]

@@RoboVenturer if we drink goo much water we would die

[@jamesslade3743]

Napster/Kazaa and 1000 minutes of dial up AOL were how how I started my internet journey as a kid. I remember when “high speed” Roadrunner can to my town and it was like my family bought a Porsche when we upgraded lol

[@georgebrown1407]

So interesting hearing that TV clip at the beginning cause it’s sampled in the Mailpup song MYSPACE BANGER 3008 lol like omg it’s the mailpup thing!!

[@TristanPopken]

1:56 56kbits/s 2:12 That would mean 3.5 * 3600 * 56 / 8 = 88200 Kbyte or 88MB picture, the average 4k picture is 24MB so I doubt your calculations here. 2:18 That would mean 12 * 24 * 3600 * 56 / 8 = 7257600 Kbyte or 7,26 GB, I have never seen a song with a bigger file size than most games... 2:22 You are dividing bits by Kbits per second, you should divide by bits per second. that would result 273 days, not 740 years...

[@kuchino]

Glad I was not the only one who noticed this. After seeing this video. I can tell he was not around during this time period.

[@FanOfMinatozakiSana]

He is a history teacher not Math ahah

[@Konkretertyp]

@@kuchino or he is just bad at math.

[@lefteriseleftheriades7381]

Exactly. The settlers 3 quest of the amazons demo was 90MB and after waiting almost 4 hours to download it, my brother tripped on the phone cable cancelling the download at 99%

[@DankinDolphin]

I was looking for this

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

why does the 90s feel like it was 5 years ago even though i wasnt alive back then

[@belstar1128]

I was alive in the 90s and to me it feels like a different millennium.

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@justan idiot thats nice bro :)

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@belstar1128 understandable lol

[@cattysplat]

@@belstar1128 Yep, preinternet world and after internet world are completely different. I remember having to look things up things in an encyclopaedia because no google.

[@nfwarrior3000]

@@cattysplat wow, the 80s and the 90s are diffrent. I never knew

[@ericbogar9665]

25 years ago I knew it would be a big deal. Back around 1995 when I first used it in school and at a friends house. He was about the only one with the internet and phone at the time because his mom worked at a place that sold it and she got a discount. At the time all that shit was pretty expensive and when you first got it you just used those AOL disks until they ran out and got another one. I remember being on chatrooms and thinking it was so cool. Never imagined it getting further than chatrooms, games, and info pages at the time, but knew it was a huge deal. Then Myspace came along and changed the game.

[@hankdatank09]

Almost same experience. It’s crazy to think that 25 years ago we couldn’t have predicted all of this.

[@GraveUypo]

@@hankdatank09 we could and some of us did. in fact there's probably still messages on message boards were my teenage self talks about it, somewhere.

[@hankdatank09]

@@GraveUypo that’s freaking cool

[@catguy5425]

I remember having to watch some animated crap in school with various monsters representing negative effects of the internet. For drive reason, I just remember the "numbutt."

[@nnand6997]

I love this series, seeing how the internet has evolved is so interesting

[@LesterPaul13]

The cloud prediction did come true. In the form of blockchain. Decentralised computing. Just a lot more nuanced and not for widespread public consumption, yet...

[@Schixotica]

Indeed, blockchain tech/cryptocurrency seems like it’s on a similar track to the arc of the internet described here

[@heehah]

THETA!!! RESEARCH THETA TOKEN! ITS THE CLOUD PREDICTION REALIZED! NOT KIDDING!

[@Stettafire]

Not really, cloud computing today is just distributed servers. Not the same thing as blockchain. The main providers are Amazon and Microsoft. AWS and Azure.

[@trapper_3890]

2:42 this burned my eyes

[@therainfromfreecloud]

Kind of wish I could go back in time JUST so I could show them me working from home today with two laptops three screens and two sets of earbuds with a zoom meeting in one ear and this video playing in the other while also looking at my phone

[@skillet9141]

I don’t know much about David Bowie, I’ll admit, but he seemed alright.

[@yepalright624]

Bruh go listen to some of his music, or watch some interviews, hes probably the coolest man who ever lived

[@msmander87]

I only know his music not much about his personal life, but he sounds intelligent.

[@thejakester6458]

_meme school_

[@DakotaofRaptors]

Dance, dance, dance through the fire

[@Darkdaej]

Hmm, bit of a correction here regarding 56k speeds. I was stuck on dialup for a long time so I can relate my experiences :) The connection would never be AT 56k. There was always some loss due to some data going between you and the ISP so at best you'd get 48000bps. 48000/8 = 6000 so you got around 5.5 to 6k a second in terms of download speeds, so around 21 megabytes an hour. Now, that JPG file is what...a couple of megs in size, maybe? It wouldn't take 3 hours to download. It might take a few minutes, though.

[@sakishrist]

The jpeg of some text would be just KBs..

[@Darkdaej]

@@sakishrist Depends. I was assuming the image was in "hd" resolution, in which case it would be probably a megabyte or two

[@belstar1128]

It may have been one of those crappy bmp files they where uncompressed and where many megabytes in size very old computers had problems opening jpgs so these files where used a lot more.

[@cattysplat]

At busy times I would connect at 38k, especially if you used popular cheap ISP like AOL.

[@MaxArceus]

This dude just divided each file size by 56, not 56000. A white JPG with that text in it, even if saved at 100% quality, at this video's HD resolution, is only 10-20kb. It would download in a few seconds. Not 3.5 hours.

[@harri211]

In 1997 on a 56K modem, I averaged about 20 minutes to download a MP3. I was happy with 3 free songs per hour.

[@TheAyanamiRei]

This was actually SUPER cool!

[@Monosekist]

They thought people wouldn’t like learning online. They were right.

[@yaboy821]

I like it more than learning "live"

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@yaboy821 live learning

[@davidwuhrer6704]

That's because people don't like learning, period. They'd rather read Wikipedia or practice Japanese.

[@deadturret4049]

Yeah maybe others like it, but this pandemic has really made me despise it. Going through the last year or so of college entirely online was a nightmare.

[@Stettafire]

Nah, it's just students that don't like learning online. Adults have been using Open University and others for ages now. It's just kids who don't know how to learn online. Prefer to have their hands held

[@syzmon8545]

when flying cars were more hyped than the internet

[@TotallyTaRz]

I like this style of video, you gave a topic, explained it, and didn't do some minute long outro, you just said what you had to and left. Only recommendation would be showing some more video examples of people talking about the internet back then, as I would've like to have seen a bit more of that. But overall, good video, 8.5/10

[@colossusforbin5484]

I first got on the internet in 1997. I remember thinking that one day going from one website to another would be like changing a TV channel.

[@santy09]

I just can't believe how it was possible that in just twenty years something that different and crazy as the internet was form it's like someone said an hour in the internet can be seen as a entire month ... Time just feel different in a way.

[@tetsuoshima2314]

I also seem to remember in the 90s the future internet was imagined to involve a lot more VR, if not exclusively VR based.

[@belstar1128]

They wanted you to navigate the internet in 3d imagine youtube it is a huge room with a bunch of screens for every video looks cool but its terrible to use.

[@Darkdaej]

People thought the VR stuff from Lawnmower Man was the future of computing.

[@squiddyft.insecurities3549]

@@thetruegoldenknight um no vr is still niche

[@metalrockstarizer89]

Well now it is. Look what Mark Zuckerberg is doing

[@Stettafire]

In the 90s I don't recall anyone talking about VR except in a sci-fi sense

[@darkyboode3239]

Now would also be a great time to acknowledge that the internet gives you the ability to meet and interact with people who live in a different part of the world from you, who you’d otherwise never encounter without it.

[@DanRichter]

Hard to believe that only 15 years ago, just to watch a video like this, I’d have to click on it then wait maybe 30 minutes for it to load in its entirety so I can watch a 360p version of it without interruption. I remember being so impatient that I would let 10 seconds of a video load, watch it, then sit there waiting for another 10 seconds to load and so on.

[@skeleskele]

The cloud you defined is REAL! The Ethereum Virtual Machine is exactly this, not to scale but there is layer 2 solutions, which can solve this and/or alternatives like Cardano.

[@angeldelarosa7975]

I remember my dad installing AOL from a disk, and always asking my parents if they were going to have phone calls coming in while I was surfing the web.

[@jasonhatt4295]

0:09 LOL!!!!! "What do you write to it? Like Mail?" Yes you do, don't forget the stamp!

[@TheLokiBiz]

56 K was slow, but it wasn't near as slow as you're saying. I was there, downloading a song off Napster using my 56 K modem (over AOL lol) took about 30 minutes - not 12 days...

[@helpme8993]

Notice me daddy knowledge

[@Green_Stache_Productions]

My dad left me

[@knowledgehusk]

no

[@helpme8993]

@@knowledgehusk ok

[@174b9]

@@Green_Stache_Productions Hah. My dad doesn't pay child support.

[@RevoOnRev1337]

lol

[@sirawesomenessi1796]

A hear a little bit of Kermit in his voice and I love it.

[@ashbitz]

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING LMAOO I LOVE IT

[@knellroy]

The idea of the cloud you explained is now called a cluster computer and is extreamly common in research. Pretty much every university in the world has one, or access to one.

[@treasuretrails]

I'm high on the internets right now watching this while playing old school runescape on the side I love the internet man! I am an addict I can't ever quit this lol