You Own Nothing: The True Cost of Digital Media

It’s a nice idea isn’t it? The notion that when you exchange your hard earned cash for the fancy new “product”, you actually own it in some capacity? Well, in all likelihood, you probably don’t own as much as you think. It’s kinda hard to explain.
But nonetheless let us dig into the ever changing world of copyright, public domain, terms of service, and plush snake mascots for gaming accessory manufacturers.
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[@darkersouls1155]

Imagine getting locked out of your prosthetic limbs or organs in a few decades because you haven't agreed to the terms of service.

[@notsojharedtroll23]

XD

[@datbootlegger]

That's why I'd use something open source instead

[@CBRN-115]

Honestly, I think this sounds too realistic

[@m00finxo46]

@Vela S in the US the medical establishment has already been bought out. lol. this shit is coming, im surprised they arent already making subscriptions to heart monitors etc. the US is fucked.

[@Feefa99]

It would be great story arc in Cyberpunk 2077

[@TateSneak46]

Disney: We'll see about that

[@Aflay1]

You can take my Mickey Mouse, my Avengers, even my Mandalorian... But you cannot take MY RAZOR SNAKE

[@LonelySandwich]

🔥 Check out my new 🔞+ Omegle Trolling 😲😱

[@sassycat]

Yeah, Disney isn't about to stand by a let a pornographic anything they created happen.

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

@@sassycat like pr0n of didkney stuff isn't already everywhere, lol

[@BvG_Venom]

Damn Vortegaunts

[@8797lilly]

Getting locked out of physical appliances isn’t some dystopian possibility, its already happened to me. I had several wink smart outlets, and last year they decided that everyone with their outlets should start paying $5 a month to keep their outlets running, I didn’t and now all my outlets don’t work.

[@vylbird8014]

This is why I built my own smart thermostat. No-one locks me out of that, and all it takes is a few cheap parts and ten lines of perl.

[@robertbingham8053]

I supposed there was something you signed that said they could do that. That needs taking care of, too. These companies make you sign weird shit or else you can't use this ubiquitous thing.

[@ConnerHall]

@@robertbingham8053 Cough, Home Assistant. Cough

[@jasdanvm3845]

What is an outlet?

[@samuelalexander8030]

@@jasdanvm3845 The thing you plug stuff into. For electricity.

[@sjnm4944]

When owning an extensive DVD collection is an act of rebellion.

[@OutOfTheBoxThinker]

... or an extensive collection of physical books... or physical games.

[@lego007guym8]

Viva la revolutiono!

[@Launchpad05]

Starting up A local station that airs afternoon cartoon blocks is also an act of rebellion.

[@wturner777]

@@Launchpad05 Especially if the station ignores the Children's Television Act. The loophole is to make it a cable or streaming network, but there's huge competition.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

In the video he literally talked about disk-rot.

[@-haclong2366]

Everything as a service, nothing as your private property. It's like digital feudalism.

[@jacksonfurlong3757]

Pairs well with all the physical feudalism

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Why do you think this has anything to do with feudalism?

[@MrShedom8]

@@pedrolmlkzk because you are a digital vassal

[@pedrolmlkzk]

@@MrShedom8 how so?

[@alexanderjohnson3014]

@AcidDome Yeah chief, the problem is that what you're describing isn't feudalism. Peasants were allowed to have their own land in a lot of cases, the main thing was that they had to pay taxes to their overlords. What you're thinking of is tenant farming, which is a different thing.

[@jestawell]

Oddly enough the pumpkin allegory is a bad example, because today companies can and do copyright seeds

[@donharmuth776]

One of several reasons why bayer is in trouble. Can't reuse the seeds your plant grows

[@funkyfresh1013]

Same thing with Monsanto soybeans. They genetically modify them so they don’t give as much/ as likely to sprout seeds, and if you do decide to go ahead and plant them anyways, they can sue you. This is a big problem over in India, where farmers are just barely making it buy every growing season, having to tale out loans to buy the proprietary seeds and pesticides, and then just barely pay off their loan at selling time, only to start the cycle again. One of the many reason why suicide among farmers is so high over there.

[@donharmuth776]

@@funkyfresh1013 that's actually the example I had in mind since bayer bought monsanto. It's a big problem on the super farms in the mid west and internationally. It's changed the industry and associated markets a lot. The money used to go to equipment or investments but now it's too seeds every year

[@williamdrum9899]

That should have been illegal the day patents were invented. Edit: It was until 1980

[@Radoll]

Similar logic applies to livestock, and livestock equipment, just look at the Perdue Corporation.

[@AristonSparta]

Connecting things to the internet is really dumb. We don’t need “smart” anything, much less fridges or toasters. You are allowing others into your home that can control your appliances.

[@ky5666]

I really like the idea of a computerized home. I just hate the version most companies are trying to sell me.

[@viktormota9517]

Lol that's how I feel about smart TVs but fuck it if I didnt give in and get one too

[@AristonSparta]

@@viktormota9517 that’s why it happens. Be strong

[@lifescansdarkly]

Truth. There is no reason why my water heater needs WiFi. Companies are adding this shit to everything because it benefits *them*, not you.

[@mikitz]

Smart devices - they're smart, because we know you're not.

[@DeadBaron]

"the odds are slim" - Tesla has already disabled some Teslas from being able to super charge or even charge properly at all, when the owners bought them used and Tesla viewed them as not real owners.

[@SupersuMC]

What? You can't buy a used Tesla? Suck my power outlet, Elon Musk.

[@Retro--]

@cock and ball I only respect Elon for his space endeavors as this is what humanity's ultimate goal is, everything else is ehh, neuralink seems cool, id totally staple a chip in my head

[@E4439Qv5]

elongated muskrät

[@supersaiyaman11589]

isnt that illigell to disable a car because you don't like that somebody bought it used.

[@uglybad4]

@@supersaiyaman11589 With enough money, the law isn't an issue

[@FelipeJaquez]

*"You will own nothing, and you will be happy"*

[@d947]

World economic forum 2030 “prediction” (planned agenda)

[@dany052501]

@@d947 glad to see other people who are aware.

[@jonathansibrian695]

oy vey

[@pedrolmlkzk]

Oy vey

[@omniscientomnipresent5500]

What is it from ?

[@Zachary-tz9pm]

Rest in peace to those who forgot to download their virtual titles from the Wii Shop Channel before it closed.

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

To play them it's as easy as just finding a torrent with all them games and either modding the Wii or setting up an emulator on pc

[@Grimrapings]

Thank god for jail breaking

[@amirnator456]

You can still get them from repositories and install them as WADS though

[@NormanReaddis]

F for people being a nintendo fan as a whole

[@Emanouche]

I'm planning to hack my 3ds soon as Nintendo is about to drop all support. I'm the kind of guy that will always condemn piracy if something is widely available, but once you make it impossible to get something... it's fair game.

[@tankmchavocproductions6907]

The thing I don’t like about having everything as a service instead of a product is that your money doesn’t speak anymore, Netflix for example can cherry pick what they put on their service and you or your wallet have no say for what gets put on because you pay for every movie that way, not just the ones you want to watch

[@Roxor128]

That's a great angle. I'd never thought of it before and now that I've heard it, I think it needs to be argued more often.

[@MrMegaMetroid]

Your comment is very portant and a completely new side i never considered. So important in fact that i will leave this comment section this instant, as to avoid drowning this new knowledge out with hundreds of other comments i would otherwise read.

[@iceman00behave]

That's largely true, but "voting with your wallet" still counts. For example, if you find increasingly, month after month, that their selection is becoming worse, you can simply cancel your membership. Or if they keep injecting ideology into media, you can let your disdain be known by cancelling. The problem is that the selection is so large, it's highly likely you'll find something to watch...and a large portion of your time will be just browsing through options. However, another thing to consider, is that people have more streaming options than ever, so competition will pressure Netflix and others to hire talented people, to put out quality content. If they can't retain memberships, they will fail.

[@MrMegaMetroid]

@@iceman00behave thats also a good point, but i think the counter point you yourself brought (youll likely find SOMETHING to watch) is far more important than you give it credit. People are usually lazy(not derogatory, people usually are very complacent) and would rather complain every once in a while when the subject arises, ibstead of actually taking time out of their day to look up and compare the streaming offerings of other services On top of that, netflix has a "default" status in society. Brand recognition is what draws people in, and complacency is what keeps them there. Bonus point is also that many people group hog accounts, meaning they jump into a multi membership just because their friends have one. Basically, only being on netflix out of circumstance

[@Shlogger]

That's funny. With Netflix (but most of them honestly) it's about 93% filler with some interesting, or otherwise well done content sprinkled throughout. Their own creations are hit or miss largely but regardless the end result is just a lot of options without a lot of quality. The other night I was with some family members and we were all trying to find something to watch but we ended up just literally scrolling through screens for like 45 minutes. We ended up just randomly picking The Time Machine with Guy Pearce out of desperation. lol. Not the worst movie but certainly nothing special. None of us even wanted to watch it. lol. We just couldn't keep scrolling like insane rats forever. Our world has become kind of stupid at this point honestly.

[@UnfairEnforcer]

I’m indeed worried by the fact that hundreds of dollars worth of digital items will be meaningless sooner rather than later because the technology is no longer supported or there is a weird rights dispute

[@vylbird8014]

It's happened before. Services like Zune were shut down because they failed commercially, resulting in customer's music libraries being wiped out without compensation. And the game of Scott Pilgrim vs. the World was removed from sale and and ability of XBox 360 customers to install the game removed (Though I believe existing installs may still have worked?) due to a rights dispute relating to licensing of the music used in the game.

[@cjxgraphics]

At one point, the book 1984 was removed from peoples’ Kindles because Amazon lost the copyright or something. They eventually got it back, but it just went to show things can quickly go down the memory hole.

[@xyanide1986]

Things got yeeted several times already with rights disputes.

[@MetalSandman999]

Sometimes it is unavoidable, but sometimes you can take steps to mitigate risk. MP3 has been the standard for digital audio files for decades and probably will be for a long time. Converting as much as you can to MP3 files with third-party software so it is on your computer and not a library that can be shut off helps. Similarly, there are ways to strip DRM from Kindle books (such as Epubor Ultimate) so you can convert to different file type and keep on your computer. You just have to be proactive and intentional and never rely on the company who provided you the content.

[@misterzygarde6431]

This is why people hate it when physical games require a download. Also imagine if a law was passed to force digital storefronts to let people truly own downloaded stuff. What reactions would there be to such a law?

[@allenallen9879]

I feel like there gonna be a civil war.

[@zymosan99]

every consumer would be happy, and every company would lose their shit and make things awful for the consumer

[@allenallen9879]

Sorry I read it wrong, but yes the people would be very happy while the company would lose it.

[@jinxedsphinx3600]

@@zymosan99 what would be different in that scenario? Can someone explain it I’m technologically retarded...

[@zymosan99]

@@jinxedsphinx3600 people would own the games, so the companies couldn't brick your discs like he says in the video (i also may have been exaggerating)

[@AshnSilvercorp]

this really is the biggest fight of the next generation. If you've heard of the guy and channel Louis Rossman, you already know how Apple for years has been purposefully been allowing defects in hardware and blaming it on users when they seek to repair the item that costed them $1000 already. Renting and subscription services are not bad, but buying a game should be an indefinite license to run it forever and ability to preserve AND run it.

[@Anyo92]

Yeah, fuck planned obsolescence

[@willmungas8964]

yeah apple does some pretty bad shit

[@hardyzme]

My new apple pencil 2 crapped out in less than a month and now I have to take a 12 hour journey to get it fixed at their nearest "Authorized service centre ".

[@disgruntledcommenter]

Or you know, climate change?

[@AshnSilvercorp]

@@disgruntledcommenter the thing?

[@adriannaranjo4397]

"Don't question just consume product and get excited for next product"

[@rixille]

@@cinderingbeamstar9382 Look up "Consoomer" on the Knowyourmeme website. I thought the quote went back to the release of the Star Wars Episode 7 trailer, but KYM is saying 2019.

[@junoguten]

I could have sworn I saw this meme at least as early as whatever the date was when Trump announced he was running for president. Was in all the same meme groups, and meme groups that are actually fun have a very short lifespan before getting banned.

[@brandonwombacher2559]

I can't get happy for the next product cause I'm broke.

[@greedpower565]

It boggles my mind how people who buy digital shit think they "own" it, if you cant physically hold it in your hands, then you dont own it

[@vylbird8014]

Even if you can hold it, you don't own it. There are plenty of programs which are impossible to run now without some hackery because they depend upon online activation services that have been shut down.

[@EJD339]

It doesn’t bother me but this is a matter of opinion. I think I’ve spent 40 dollars in the last 3 years on digital media for movies and tv (this excludes my ps4 games). I live in a studio so I don’t have enough room for physical copies so if I want to watch something I rent it or stream it. Am I paying more than I use to going to a rental movie place? Yeah. But it doesn’t bother me I guess. I understand people’s concerns though.

[@AmateurContendr]

It boggles my mind how people think they own shit just because it's physical. If it has so much as a single system update, they could lock you out of your "physical" copy just the same as digital if they so wanted to. They only way you're safe from this kinda thing is if you completely denounce all tech released after 2005.

[@greedpower565]

@@AmateurContendr lol keep buying digital then

[@snood4743]

@@AmateurContendr We can still own physical movies, music, and books at least. They haven’t found a way to patch them (except for Cats, but that was still in theaters).

[@edwardrhoads7283]

you don't really buy digital media, you rent it indefinitely...

[@WhatIsMyPorpoise]

*_near_* indefinitely

[@CBRN-115]

Ah, feudalism. Where your land is rented by your liege and you don't own it

[@mikimouse3001]

I don't rent it, I download it

[@mikitz]

When you own nothing, you have zero political power.

[@friendlyneighborhoodasianm912]

I absolutely love having the disc. It feels so much more magical when you actually hold a video game, rather than just hoping the download button actually downloads the game

[@itsmealex8959]

I felt the second half of this comment on a deeply spiritual level

[@ediodimacaroni]

Why do that when you can get the game for free digitally 😉

[@VT-qv7we]

It's true. The box, the manual brings out the inner kid in you. Having said that, the convenience and mechanical superiority of online libraries is undeniable.

[@emeraldwind4897]

@@VT-qv7we A lot of modern games don't even have a physical manual anymore Lol.

[@ediodimacaroni]

@Fluffynator too bad

[@BAIGAMING]

I think the smart fridge problem you talked about actually happened, they had a update problem and their fridges turned off for 2 days, spoiling all their food.

[@xyanide1986]

Samsung rolled out an update for their microwave making it think it was an oven, and bricked the devices. Absolute lunacy.

[@dragoneater2008_]

why the hell would you need a smart fridge anyway?

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

I'm a little surprised you didn't mention how Oculus requires connection to your Facebook account and any bans on Facebook will affect your usage of the device, or how some landlords installed smart security on their properties so they could lock tenants out of the properties after only seconds of overdue bills.

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Right, YOU own nothing but WE own everything

[@johnyossarian1135]

I can't make a Soviet Russia joke because you aren't Russian.

[@alw2839]

Cummunism.

[@mastershadowreaper]

✡✡✡we✡✡✡

[@shaunenwright7872]

“You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” - World Economic Forum

[@LonelySandwich]

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[@alecmackintosh2734]

Under Australian consumer law there is a lot more power to the owner of the product. You are allowed to copy and modify the software as long as it's a one-time payment and you don't distribute it.

[@dawsondebell1603]

*exhaled oxygen That sounds great. What are the downsides?

[@batatanna]

@@dawsondebell1603 that it's legal only if it was a one time paid product and if you dont distribute it.

[@alecmackintosh2734]

@@batatanna Scomo and THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT!

[@alecmackintosh2734]

@Cultural Nat thankfully the government likes to stick it to some infringements. Like how they sued valve for not having refunds.

[@newdivide9882]

That’s shocking considering this is the same country that arrested a woman for a Facebook post

[@JohnDoe-ns5su]

We live in a boring dystopia.

[@NormanReaddis]

We live in a selfish society

[@iruleatgames]

The only people who describe are times as boring are the same people who don't do anything to change the dystopia. It's not boring for people fighting and dying for liberty.

[@gottaproxy8826]

most of you will be gone soon.

[@gottaproxy8826]

and most of you aren't "living" never were. most of you lacked the prequixites to actually qualify for personhood.

[@ejipuh]

@@NormanReaddis Well, societies are made of people.

[@GuildsmanPirate]

Thank God for Pirate Parties. They’re the only ones addressing the issue of copyright

[@Grimrapings]

Thing is the scene groups only really do it for the challenge. Few officially release to the public. Rather they're leaked. It's all a proof of concept with them.

[@vatu]

The „free trade“ thing in your profile pic is irritating me. Idk about other countries, but in germany the pirates are quite marxist.

[@neku9837]

@@vatu Not gonna lie I hate communists with a burning pation but even I will at least consider glossing over that if they support piracy.

[@SlapstickGenius23]

I don’t like extremists.

[@Alex-fu3mi]

@@neku9837 aye if you’re into piracy and ducking over corporations, you might give communism another look.

[@Jolfgard]

I own nothing, fine by me. In the world of digital media, coincidentally, piracy is easier than ever.

[@lastword8783]

With the latest denuvo, piracy on pc games is not as convenient. A lot of times it can take weeks, months, years for a crack. Few times theres a crack available on release day but this is increasingly rare. For example watch dog legions according to crackwatch.com is still not cracked despite coming out 30 days ago.

[@yunaka_gaming]

@@lastword8783 Who tf cares about watch dogs lmao

[@lastword8783]

@@yunaka_gaming watchdogs isn't the exception. Its basically the same for any triple A release. COD, Assassin's creed valhalla, Yakuza etc are not cracked despite being out for more than 2 weeks.

[@Jolfgard]

@Fluffynator What do you mean? Did I ever say I pirated games?

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

@@lastword8783 depends, but also consider that a lot of this drm bullcrap just boggles the game down and at times makes it unplayable, while the cracked/pirated version works like a charm.

[@aantony2001]

Ah, if only it were that simple with the pumpkin. Ever heard of plant breeders' rights (PBR)? Plants are being copyrighted and it's crazy. Biology is becoming privatised.

[@indexwell6546]

Wtf is that a real thing? Greed truly has poison human soul

[@CBRN-115]

@@indexwell6546 I can't wait for the apocalypse to reset the world

[@williamdrum9899]

@@indexwell6546 Monsanto intensifies

[@sergiowinter5383]

Yeah I want to see them sue birds.

[@SupersuMC]

@@sergiowinter5383 Sue them? Nah, we shoot them.

[@JosephKeenanisme]

The creator usually doesn't get shit. They may no longer (or had ever) rights to what they created. Support the artists not the companies who turn the artist and the consumer into slaves.

[@toxicchlorine1729]

Definitely agree. But that may not always be easy to do cuz of the corporate giants. Honestly better to just pirate corporate software.

[@natowaveenjoyer9862]

>turn the artist and the consumer into slaves hysteria moment

[@KaosNova2]

@@toxicchlorine1729 I don’t even pirate Disney because they mostly just vomit up what I already own.

[@papajohncena2516]

“You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” -Sketchy media cooperation

[@Abel-Alvarez]

Piracy is the only freedom we truly have as humans.

[@Laenthor]

The pirate golden age probably didn't only happen because people wanted to adventure... it's a vicious cycle of companies getting greedy and consumers fighting back.

[@sassycat]

"The Golden Age of Piracy", eh?

[@kavky]

@@TheMrawesomest what if the sun stops shining?

[@DvDick]

@@TheMrawesomest I thought about that too, but I'm confident that reverse engineering wizards will find ways to restore steam libraries. Companies can try their hardest to obsfuscate and lock up software, but they are fighting a battle that is impossible to win, people will find ways to get around any wall they set up.

[@darkwingduke1631]

@@kavky Then owning video games is the least of our worries

[@thebreadbringer9522]

We are indeed getting more and more like a dystopia.

[@friendlyneighborhoodasianm912]

Cyberpunk is not a fantasy or a dystopia, it is the future

[@jacksonfurlong3757]

Ha, 'getting' We been here for a hot minute, now

[@sandran17]

Depends where you live really.

[@pliat]

We are in one.

[@CBRN-115]

Now we are in a dystopia, we need a post apocalypse to finish the arc

[@no2party]

"Ya best start believing in cyber-dystopias lad, you're in one!"- Captain Barbossa.

[@Batman-rc1yg]

"you can't jailbreak a handheld console" the psp and 3ds hacking community:are you sure about that

[@admiralkipper4540]

*Legally

[@TheSkullConfernece]

The SCP universe gets to benefit countless people. Nobody owns it, anybody can participate, bad writing can be voted out, there are countless topics one can choose from including those who like to write things that aren't serious, and anybody can create media and profit off of it even if they didn't actually write the articles they're basing their movies, narrations, music, or games on.

[@JasonGodwin69]

Hey, are SJWs still trying to take over SCP websites?

[@HAnh-qd8sx]

@@JasonGodwin69 uh, there are no SJWs anywhere, just corporate shills trying to ruin SCP via copyright abuse

[@StateOfTheMind11225]

@@JasonGodwin69 you still think that cracknut theory?

[@aidancollins1591]

@@JasonGodwin69 Terminal 2016 brain rot

[@christianroot6287]

@@JasonGodwin69 what does sjw stand for

[@Planag7]

Only thing I might change is possibly with a pumpkin because there are certain vegetables and grains that you can only grow once due to genetic modification. Wonderful..

[@manooxi327]

I heard that the biggest seed company in the world, that has it's seed GMOed, before using their seeds, u gotta sign a contract that u'll never use the seeds of the harvest for replanting, so u gotta always buy more seeds from them!

[@vylbird8014]

No, there are not. Though not for lack of trying. It's been the dream of companies like Monsanto for years, but their scientists never managed to get it to work. They rely on legal methods instead: You have to sign a contract when buying their seed saying that you will not re-plant any from your harvest. If they suspect you are violating the contract they will send someone to gather a sample from your field and sequence it to check, and then they will sue both your farm and you personally into a financial hole so deep you will never pay off the debt.

[@manooxi327]

@@vylbird8014 Monsanto yes that's the one, fuck those guys

[@archygrey9093]

Thats pretty normal and been around for a while, its usually because they are hybrids not genetically modified. Its a bit like when you breed a horse and a donkey and get a mule, and mules cannot procreate

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@manooxi327 They are the EA of agriculture.

[@jessicapink703]

Reminds me of the time that Amazon took back copies digitally purchased of 1984 due to a licensing disagreement. Some type of law mandating refunds in certain cases like that might be helpful.

[@TheKeksadler]

The future is Free and Open Source Software; Video Games included.

[@AmateurContendr]

This sounds crazy but it's probably not untrue. These days there's a free and/or open source program for almost everything I do. And the stuff that doesn't yet have a good alternative, I'm sure it's just a matter of time until one comes out.

[@Piiavc]

Gonna hijack this with political ideology: Artists should be paid by the government/ have public donations readily available.

[@JollyJuiice]

@@Piiavc Why not just take commissions from those who want to support you and your work? You know, like Patreon... but not specifically patreon.

[@lyokianhitchhiker]

@@AmateurContendr Of course, I had to do some digging for certain things. No open source video editors that could be called competitors to Adobe Premier came out until the past 4 years.

[@mayhair]

@@JollyJuiice Commissions + public donations is good.

[@vesstig]

Its almost like we've slowly given up on owning something for good to a system where you change something out every couple years

[@nobodycares607]

We have always chaged things out every few years you fool

[@vesstig]

@@nobodycares607 Unless you grew up with grandparents and a father who had handed down tools that had lasted them generations, and it sort of dawns on you that the current systems are here to make us continuously pay for things we don't really need.

[@nobodycares607]

@@vesstig just because your family things lasted generations doesn't mean everyone does things like that. Most people buy things every few years

[@vesstig]

@@nobodycares607 I was simply commenting on the change in people perceptions on what is worth buying and not. If you do things like that then chill man but Id also like the ability to have a tool last till I could either pass it on or sell it. Not trying to shit on the normal way people do things but it also doesn't make much sense to me

[@apotato6278]

@@vesstig Coming from rural Europe my family still does that. I use my great-grandfather's soldering iron when i solder. My dad has my great-great grandfather's hammer in his workshop. Our house has been passed down for 5 generations etc. A neat way to prolong the lifespan of a product is to build it yourself. This applies to structures, electronics, tools etc. If you intimately know how something works it's easy to replace faulty parts to keep it going. This just means you've got a Ship of Theseus paradox to deal with but hey, I'm a rural European, not some philosopher, so it doesn't bother me.

[@johnyossarian1135]

When Disney takes over the world can I call dibs on being John Connor. If Amazon or China take over someone else can do it.

[@justbny9278]

If that Regular Show episode is right you just need 50 dollars to literally be a John Connor, the John's already there

[@leonardofranzinribeiro4220]

@@justbny9278 is that the one where Rigby changes his name?

[@cfltheman]

Before that happens public domain will be abolished.

[@CBRN-115]

If disney takes over the world, they will copyright the basic necessities of life such as air and sleep

[@cocoabutt1711]

This makes me wanna remake the opening to "Terminator: Salvation" with an A10 strafing Epcot Center.

[@DocOmally101]

The Odds of it are the same as twitter banning someone from their platform out of petty spite. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.

[@SourRobo8364]

I hate buying so many digital games. By damn it they have so many good deals.

[@the1flym459]

This is why I always record my playthroughs of games I own and save the recordings on a Beta-Max tapes then record the recordings of multiple tapes and put it on a VHS tape then put multiple recorded recordings on a DVD and then put multiple recorded recordings of recordings on 87 different hardrives all from different manufacturers

[@doodleroar]

I can't even tell if this is a joke because i've genuinely seen people paranoid enough to do this

[@the1flym459]

@@doodleroar It's not paranoia if they're actually out to get you

[@bigretching890]

This is how you will want to preserve your media when going the storagephile route... If you start out at betamax level, be it a PDF or mp3 file, always choose the most lossy route to give it that old vinyl feel.

[@masaharumorimoto4761]

You forgot the super secret scientology record of everything on gold records back-up in a bunker under trementina base!!

[@tubeguy4066]

No laserdisks? No 8mm films? No microSD cards? No floppy disks? You gotta up your game.

[@kingbranden1369]

The simple solution is to just not pay for anything when you don't have to. 90% of the time there's no incentive to actually pay for a digital product.

[@GaryOakPR]

pirate chads rise up!

[@NovaStrike118]

@@GaryOakPR yes!

[@smitty1647]

you could even still buy stuff or donate directly to support creators and torrent anyway just to have a copy

[@Juanguar]

I guess I lie in the 10% Since I live in a 3rd world country all games are imported from Europe and USA and since there are too much taxes these 60$ games become ~85$ So for me it only makes sense to purchase digital

[@Juanguar]

@Dark Maximo that’s what I do on pc most of the time But when it comes to switch it’s like what I said Edit : forgot to mention that I rarely buy switch games

[@williamxb]

Simple solution: >Use streaming services, so that you get a wide range of content you like. >The stuff you *really* like, buy it in physical or special edition or whatever. There

[@endrankluvsda4loko172]

This was kinda why I started just downloading everything I like. Too many times there were too many youtube videos I'd watch often then suddenly it would just vanish. So now I just download every video I like cause I assume on any day everything I like to watch could suddenly be gone since I have absolutely no say or control over anything these days.

[@unculturedswine7993]

This is kind of the reason I prefer physical copies of books over e-books/audio books. I don't want my whole library to disappear in the blink of an eye if something were to happen (not to mention a physical book doesn't need electricity or WiFi for me to read it). Also there is just a kind of nostalgia and some kind of "authenticity" for me when it comes to physical books. A physical book is something I can feel, smell, taste (don't know why you'd lick your book, but hey if you bought it, go right ahead), and I can consume the words and know them. The knowledge of the book can't be easily taken away from me, since once read its in my brain (obviously over time the knowledge becomes distorted/faded because of just how our brain works). I own that knowledge.

[@necropolistc6357]

also if we loose electricity, say a world-wide disaster, all information on hard drives are now useless and gone

[@tubeguy4066]

A single EMP over the US will cause countless of information lost

[@lowhyde2693]

I buy used games, music cds, dvds, even vinyl records all the time! Not to mention used books and comics. Having a physical object is better than some b.s. log on service.

[@SourRobo8364]

You don't have to tell me twice. Still upset about Netflix removing a Community episode.

[@sassycat]

*Nintendo:* WE TOLD YOU THERE WERE ADVANTAGES TO CARTRIDGES OVER DISCS, BUT DID YOU LISTEN?!?!

[@megasoniczxx]

Don't cartridges eventually rot out too? I know that happened with one of my games but I did buy it from a video rental store though.

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

Shittendo doesn't want you to own anything the same as all the other scumpanies

[@sassycat]

It seems that some here have missed the sarcasm I was implying, clearly a bad job by me.

[@megasoniczxx]

@@sassycat I didn't really get the impression it was supposed to be entirely sarcastic but i'm pretty bad at judging humor so your cool.

[@arishkhan5918]

Consumers realizing they did not: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@robert9662]

Ai ai Matey. We resorted to other means to get content when it wasn't easily accessible. Now that ownership of digital products isn't accessible, it may be time to return to those ways.

[@kyrem1281]

ARGGGGGGGH

[@minecraftfirefighter]

Didn't this happen when the streams market got oversaturated with ridiculous prices.

[@falpsdsqglthnsac]

YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM

[@Pantherblack]

I see ye be talkin' of returnin' to the good ol days, when a lad was free ter enjoy his wares.

[@pliat]

piracy will die.

[@danieltaylor4185]

I feel like companies like Nintendo really muddy the waters when they re-release old games on their platform. Because they made them available for purchase online, they prevent people from being able to archive games like the older Pokemon games, even though you'd be hard-pressed to find one in cartridge form these days. It kind of makes you wonder how to respond to this. Sure, you can play it on your modern consoles with the port, but is that really the same thing that you bought on the disc or cartridge that you purchased back in 1993? I know in recent years, some of Sony's ports of PS1 games on the PlayStation store suffer some performance issues on some consoles like the PS3. And that's not to mention, how does that also pertain to different versions of games? When Spyro Year of the Dragon was released, there were a few bugs. For instance, the final boss music was accidentally replaced with the music for the first hub world area, and several of the final levels didn't have tracks present on the disk, as well as a few in-between. In the "1.1 version" or "greatest hits version" as some people call it, the music tracks were put back where they were supposed to be, and it's speculated that some glitches with the game's dynamic difficulty adjustment system were fixed. So, what about version 1.0? Is that fair game, even though the Playstation Store version is based on the 1.1 version? Are previous patches of games allowed to be archived if there's no physical media that you can buy that contains version 1.0? There's a lot of media preservation questions that need answered, because the digital copy era of gaming leaves a lot of them up for debate.

[@HerbaMachina]

The biggest joke of this is that Nintendo was caught using a ROM rip from one of these archive sites in their e-store because they lost all their own official copies of the games ROM. So even Nintendo pirated some of their own material to sell it lol.

[@aeixo2533]

@@HerbaMachina Sauce?

[@BigWheel.]

It's not even just a concept with media. Cars are even becoming (slowly) subscription based things that you never really own.

[@andree1991]

Canadian Netflix is the ultimate argument for owning your damn movies on DVD or Bluray

[@DerSpeggn]

That is why I pirate each and every game i legally own so they can only deny me multiplayer in most cases. Its not legal, but its morally right.

[@edwardfanboy]

If you purchased a license to the game, why would it be illegal to download it through a torrent?

[@vylbird8014]

You can always make a moral judgement on the company. Some publishers have recent track record so immoral they border upon a cartoonish level of villainy (EA comes to mind, for their heavy use of lootboxes and using psychological manipulation techniques, and the same practice is rife in mobile gaming), but the whole industry is not like that. No harm in letting the publishers that deserve it take a little of your money... but I'd rather see those bank notes burn than give them to EA.

[@archygrey9093]

Its perfectly legal in Australia to modify or make copies of a game you own, as long as you don't distribute it

[@aboyaser5608]

I'm not interested in watching anything mickey mouse, but now knowing it will go public domain in 2024 I can't wait to watch it then and add to the view count just to spite Disney

[@logansmith2703]

Yeah that'll be fun

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Disney has a lot of their IPs bound to the company So a lot of these will only be released 50 years after Disney dies...

[@randomguyontheinternet7940]

@@commisaryarreck3974 He's talking about their older cartoons. Like 1929 and early 1930s old. They're gonna be public domain soon

[@Spiffyo]

@@randomguyontheinternet7940 Should be, because it should've happened a couple decades ago, but disney may repeat and have Mickey Mouse still in their grasp for another couple decades.

[@stormer9952]

Unless Disney expands the domain by some bullshit way.

[@revanati222]

I've been told by farmers that purchased certain modern farming equiptment have already fallen prey to this kind of copyright software protection racketeering. You were forced to go back to the manufacturer of heavy tractors for expensive repairs, and couldn't do the repairs yourself because if the machine part used the software to start, it simply didn't function until you went back to their repair shop and paid them to fix it. This actually created a rush on pre electronic tractors or gear because they could be repaired by the user, while newer gear couldn't.

[@TheAtlasReview]

Something to add to the exemptions to copyright law you mentioned is that sometimes companies will just ignore them, like Nintendo or any music label. Fair use is the battered housewife of the world of legislation, and it is clear how Nintendo sees any attempt to modify or preserve their IPs.

[@skyty0]

6:58 This isn't always the case and cars are actually becoming part of the "ownership" problem you describe. Tesla can, will, and HAS softlocked Tesla vehicles aftering finding out that they were repaired by an independent shop instead of Tesla themselves. As cars slowly become entirely electric, and it becomes easier and easier for manufacturers to simply turn off your car remotely if they don't like what you're doing with it. Just look into the "right to repair" propositions that were proposed in the last US election. As another fucked up example, if you buy a brand new Tesla with self driving hardware INSTALLED INTO THE CAR, you can't use that feature unless you fork up $8k to Tesla for a license to use that feature. Additionally, if you decide to buy it, Tesla has the ability to turn off that feature in the event that the car changes ownership in it's lifetime. Essentially, you're paying for a piece of hardware that is fully working and capable of performing the way it's intended, but is locked behind an arbitrary, intangible paywall.

[@edgepixel8467]

Yeah, fuck Tesla.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

Cody: the sun turn into a cat Me: awwwww Cody: And explode Me: Nani

[@sergiowinter5383]

That's nonsense dream material

[@cupajoe99]

Great video. And the public domain isn’t just about you being able to make copies and sell something, but it means you now will have access to the rereleases and remasters of old media that other entities end up putting together. Even if you don’t see yourself becoming an amateur salesmen, you’ll still benefit from the public domain as a consumer

[@KaosNova2]

That’s part of it. But the point of public domain is to incentivize making something new.

[@Legal-104]

This is why I have a collection of pc and console games from the 90s and 2000s, you could actually own the full game on physical media

[@brianzulauf2974]

Those games tend to be alot more fun and well made and I noticed that they are more game play oriented vs being an interactive movie.

[@zurbruggg]

My friends still think I’m insane because I prefer physical games to digital ones. I’ve seen too many “this service has ended” messages to buy a digital-only console

[@dandastardly2792]

Copyright law was instituted without much public objection. They did as their lobbyist told them. Break the mold . There is more then right or left. 90% of politicians are being funded by corporations

[@HOleti-de8zy]

90%? That's it?

[@vylbird8014]

Until very recent times, copyright law has not been a subject of interest to the public at large.

[@junoguten]

It probably wasn't quite as abused by the holders 250 years ago.

[@nunyabusiness8538]

You have to have "favorite things" and hobbies that are grounded in reality and won't become useless if there's an emp blast

[@CocoHutzpah]

In the world of software development, if it ain't GNU, I ain't using it.

[@alexdivision4320]

Just pirate lol. Then you'll own all your .exe .mp3 and .mp4 files

[@cronchcrunch]

You would have the digital data, but you still wouldn't own it. Not much different from downloading data from steam/spotify.

[@bogeds9871]

@@cronchcrunch do you own your pc

[@vylbird8014]

@@cronchcrunch Except that the service you downloaded from doesn't get to keep a killswitch, and all your media won't become useless if the company ever goes out of business or discontinues the service.

[@renewagain6956]

@@cronchcrunch You would have the digital data, and you still WOULD own it.

[@renewagain6956]

@@cherubin7th You do really own your PC. A backdoor wouldn't change that one way or the other. Why would you have an Intel instead of an AMD? You can't sell a copy of your PC because Star Trek replicators don't exist yet. Your OS =/= Your PC, and Linux is a thing.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

A Turtle approves this informational video.

[@dogdog2635]

I approve plastic bags

[@johnyossarian1135]

*sips smoothie through plastic straw*

[@kayo5011]

@John Dunham ok

[@echu.6929]

@John Dunham thank you for the insight

[@Messier__]

@John Dunham I don't know where I'd be (probably dead idk) without your insight John. You're doing god's work.

[@Mrcharrio]

This is why I have been only buying physical media the past few years. That and the fact they can edit movies you purchased and you will never know unless you rewatch it after or compare to a physical original copy. Books are also being edited and censored for wrong think, buy paper books its way more satisfying and can't be censored without your knowledge without an epic effort.

[@oshawott5308]

physical releases is where the money's at, I've hardly ever touched digital and i'm keeping it that way for as long as I play games. I love me some goddamn boxes n' cartridges and discs, even throwing aside the whole argument they're just so much more fulfilling to own.

[@pliat]

The easiest way always wins

[@Amarez]

Knowledge hub: why cloud gaming will replace your console Also knowledge hub: the true cost of digital media you own nothing

[@lastword8783]

Both are true.

[@kyrem1281]

heavy fucking hitters

[@sergiowinter5383]

Perspectives hub

[@NovaStrike118]

Jokes on you i basically pirate everything.

[@forest3945]

Same bro

[@clumsybanana6524]

Hey! we pirate bros! Let us 💃!

[@forest3945]

@@clumsybanana6524 ⛵

[@clumsybanana6524]

@@forest3945 we on a boat!

[@forest3945]

@@clumsybanana6524 what website do you use?

[@jacobdavis6056]

I could 100% see Disney locking me out of my own house because I did not pay them for Disney plus

[@Cobalt985]

Thank you!!! We need more big KZbinrs talking about Digital Restrictions Management and how bad it is for the average consumer.

[@pablobronstein1247]

This is a great argument for piracy.

[@Rihcterwilker]

If i have to buy something digitally, that i can't backup in some form, and that can be lost if the console breaks/advance a generation, i honestly prefer to pirate it. I'm just old school, i don't trust this modern system of "you're buying a software that will only exist in a single hardware and can be lost by the click of a button".

[@alw2839]

Crys in fallout 3

[@junoguten]

On a console that will die permanently when its cmos battery runs out, and you can't just replace it cause then it temporarily loses power too. Can probably solder on a new one in parallell though, and replace one at a time.

[@stevenoviedo541]

This dude sounds like he once tried to steal something from a grocery store then got supper afraid and put it back and then apologize profusely. This act gave him great fear and he hasn't tried anything ilegal since.

[@maverick9300]

This becomes a bigger problem with massive conglomerate companies, where being banned while using one service affects your ability to use your other semi-related services.

[@vylbird8014]

Especially now that half the internet uses either Facebook or Google to sign you in to third-party services.

[@256byteram]

I see a serious issue where a large company buys out another with an online platform or cloud service, and the platform gets shut down because the new parent company doesn't see it as viable.

[@johnnygyro2295]

This is why the public domain needs more power/copyright needs to be shortened again. What's the point of creating stories and whatnot, if companies won't release them from an iron fist?!

[@jacksonfurlong3757]

Less disposable plastic crap being produced, at least. But just let people own the shit they buy regardless of the medium

[@stefanstenroos6344]

Makes no difference when the devices you consume the media on are not repairable, contain heavy metals, are designed to be obsolete in less than a decade, and are being produced at massive scale. So not only do you not own media that you can reuse, but the device on which you have to consume the media is also harmful to the environment due to the policies of the company that makes it.

[@Dilettanteworks]

This. We should be arguing about the laws surrounding digital rights management & ownership, rather than stubbornly demanding we continue to produce more physical products and pollute the earth under the pretense of personal freedom.

[@jacksonfurlong3757]

@@stefanstenroos6344 One device with few to no peripherals would be ideal as compared to a similar system with a on of extra materials devoted to software So would a reliable recycling system and an economy not dependent on nonstop growth , but here we are

[@dandastardly2792]

Backing up your media and right to repair are constitutionally guarenteed.

[@TheMrfrodough]

What part of the constitution?

[@dandastardly2792]

@@TheMrfrodough the 4th and the 14th amendment.

[@TheMrfrodough]

@@dandastardly2792 which specific portions? Because the 4th doesnt apply and the 14th doesnt appear to as well.

[@user-hu6pk3zs3i]

i've never bought a piece of digital media in my life never plan on doing so either i just pirate it simple as

[@exonymat1471]

Unfortunately with modern PC games I can't do that since they only release the game digitally. But all my older PC games are on discs/floppy disks and I'm pretty proud of my little collection

[@nickdoesstuff9791]

Great video! This topic definitely deserves more recognition, and it’ll be interesting to see how the right to repair bills of the future may affect all of this

[@monchosoy6656]

This idea has been around my mind a lot over the last year, totally agree

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?

[@ocularzombie6679]

Why would I show up in your comments half the time?

[@Abel-Alvarez]

Why are you booing at me, I'm right?

[@liliuMAX]

Damn dude you're everywhere

[@Abel-Alvarez]

@Rodney Gore No mames, porque traes rasismo aqui? estamos hablando de electronicos 😂

[@th3graveofwrath354]

With the great reset pushed by the world governments, this will extend to losing the right of ownership of physical items as well.

[@bankerduck4925]

Beautifully made video and an important topic. Godspeed!

[@michaelbuehler3897]

When it comes to digital games I either get them on a DRM free platform or get them as cheap as I can.

[@kabloosh699]

As you get older you begin to value the tangible assets you own in comparison to digital items in a virtual world.

[@cerjmedia]

Me, who watched the overlord gaming not to long ago: "Ah yes, this topic again"

[@anton2re]

As soon as pirating becomes more viable than paying (every company having its own stream thing so I have to pay 70 bucks a month to watch what I want legally for example) piracy will become the norm

[@BenoHourglass]

There's already games that you cannot get under any circumstance because of issues between licencing agreements. Like _Driver: San Fransisco_ for instance.

[@Alex-fu3mi]

11:30 “the odds of this happening, any of this happening, are so remotely slim…” It’s already happening mate. The most damning dystopian example I can give is DRM in VENTILATORS. There are some ventilators that require an access code in order for a part to be replaced, an access code the manufacturer only provides to their approved technicians. If the technician can’t get to your hospital, like if say, a deadly global pandemic is restricting travel, you’ll be software locked out of your perfectly usable ventilator. In a report by US Public Interest Research Group, they found that in interviews with 222 biomedical repair professionals, almost HALF reported they had been “denied access to critical repair information, parts or service keys since March [of 2020].”

[@edgepixel8467]

Such hardware should be outlawed

[@colingznetworkplus4618]

This was a good video, liked the visuals, I might not agree with you on your sonic opinions, but I love this video, and this was very informative

[@Flyingclam]

I fear these companies, for whatever reason, will start to enforce these TOS not only individually but retroactively Imagine getting your Fridge bricked because you had it repaired in the past and GE's new TOS now contains a retroactive "No right to repair" clause or a loose "Software Tampering" clause

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

And that's when you build your own fridge? Dunno, lol

[@commisaryarreck3974]

That's when you build yourself a basement that goes a few meters deep and learn how to live without technology Doesn't work as well in warmer regions but hey, i grew up partially in the Hungarian countryside...or mountainside to be precise. Forage, store and grow your own food in a massive backyard that costs fuck all

[@mr.elhermano7367]

That's why I feel like physical media should still exists as an option

[@mechajay3358]

_The Golden Era of Piracy is our Salvation._ 🏴‍☠️

[@no_misaki]

These reasons you list are why i'm excited that emulation (for example) has come such a long way for so many consoles. Piracy is keeping so many games accessible that would otherwise be stranded on increasingly unreliable hardware or entirely lost to time as servers needed to acquire them legally are shuttered.

[@Abel-Alvarez]

This is why i PC game now. Everything is there whenever i need it and if something goes wrong, i have it backed up. 😏

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

True, in a technical sense, we don't own a copyrighted product. However, we still can have possession of the physical media. They can't take it from us unless they physically assault us.

[@vylbird8014]

Correct, but there are ways to render the media unusable, if such a function was designed into it. There were a couple of non-return video rental systems that operated like that, such as Divx* - you bought the disc, put it in the player, and it then contacted the home server to ask if you had purchased the disk and if you were still within the allowed viewing window. They were all killed off by online distribution. *A video codec was later named in mockery of this product.

[@hesliterallymebro]

I own all of my digital movies cause i ILLEGALY download them.

[@midplanewanderer9507]

I really don't "dig" the whole streaming thing, myself. I prefer the hard media (CD's DVDs). But I utterly despise what is laughably called "Capitalism" today; we're well on our way towards owning nothing while being _owned by_ the Corporations and Oligarchic financial interests that have so clearly co-opted and perverted our "Governments" into pathetic puppet shows. We're consumers first, citizens a very distant second, to be manipulated...and consumed. The more we buy-into the Internet of Things, the more easily we are tracked and jacked into buying more useless junk designed to break after x amount of time and lulled to sleep with our blinking trinkets and gee-gaws; blindly accepting the myth of unlimited economic growth. This game's gonna crash, and crash _hard._ (I'm no more against capitalism than I am against electricity; but unregulated power grids, not unlike the laissez-faire "Fuck You Jack I got MINE" Neo-liberalism we see today, tend to burn down houses, cities, nations. This is already apparent to those who have eyes to see).