What the ADS-B data tells us about the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines flight J28243

[@jokerace8227]

Damaged right to the edge of being uncontrollable, and slowly becoming even less controllable. The pilots gave it a tremendous effort.

[@T1Earn]

and genuinely saved lives

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

God Rest their Soul

[@pauloshikoy5068]

It was quite a trajectory, but to think that this plane managed to travel all that distance and despite such a devastating event, 29 people survived. What a great construction by Embraer.

[@biliboma]

Не просто сбит случайно а запланировано кремлем и путином сбит! Хотели подставить Украину! Тут и так все понятно, россия сознательно спланировала катастрофу самолета с пассажирами. 1. если страна ведет войну она должна закрыть свое воздушное пространство до завершения войны. 2.тем более не пускать самолеты гражданские в зону боевых действий, которой является Чечня? откуда россия запускает крылатые ракеты по Украине.. 3. россия специально использовала против самолета мощный реб, чтоб подавить все системы навигации, сигнализации, связи. 4. россия специально пропустила заграничный рейс, чтоб збить его. и самолет должен был упасть на территории россии, где россия планировала сфальсифицировать катастрофу, подбросил части от сбитых украинских дронов. 5. но случилось чудо, не смотря в отказе садится на всех российских аэродромах, самолет смог долететь до соседнего государства, где народ наснимал видео, фото и сразу выложил в интернет, и сразу все все стало ясно, тем более что выжившие дали показания что их обстреляли с российских зенитных оружий. 6. сразу после аварии, срочно были разработаны в кремле методички и задействованы все студенты силовых учебных заведений, мвд, фсб, .... все студенты строчили один наперед другог, но не удалось ввести в заблуждение мир. 7. После сбития этого самолета, для всех русских специально прокрутили рекламу как российский солдат ПВО, сбивает иностранный самолет с Санта Клаусом. И еще ехидно улыбается, что иностранные самолеты не будуть летать над территориией россии! Так, что все было спланировано, реально путин хотел подставить Украину, но не получилось. Самолет по расчетах россиян должен был или упасть в россии или затонуть....а там россия все бы сфальсифицировала, а оставшихся в живых добила как с поляками..

[@All-Nippon-Airways]

That was due to the failure of hydraulic pressure after being hit by a missile. The pilot manually controlled the elevator, but it was too heavy to push or pull, and it crashed out of control. The pilot tried his best. Anyone who has flown the ERJ subject has found it so difficult to control. It was pulled and pushed by hand. very tired

[@xxxx-zr4ye]

The pilots names are: Igor Kshnyakin - the Captain, Aleksandr Kalyaninov - the First Officer. R.I.P. heroes.

[@LexYeen]

Absolute heroes for simply making it to land under the circumstances. May their families receive all the support they need.

[@BlueJazzBoyNZ]

100 %

[@НашСемейников]

Чудесный перевод ваших слов от гугла . R . I . P . Покойся в мире . Гугл перевёл как " Рвать " " to tear " .

[@xXx-qq8go]

​@@НашСемейниковскоро летать некому будет, а вам до слов доколупаться важнее🤦

[@kamal.1044]

And the hero stewardess Hokuma Aliyeva R.İ.P

[@LunaticTheCat]

Those pilots flew their asses off and saved the lives of many as a result. True heroes.

[@FalconXE302]

They are for sure.

[@mrreddog]

Over an hour out over the Caspian Sea, with no control other than differential thrust of the turbines. It must have been a terrifying feeling of helplessness wrenching in the gut, knowing you have no chance of landing without dying. Its a miracle that almost half the passengers lived after slamming into the ground at a heavy right list in this stricken plane, on x-mas day no less. RIP to the lost.

[@JonDoe-ln6nl]

“Christmas Day” is irrelevant. Passengers were Azeri (Muslim) and Russian (Orthodox) so December 25 is just another day. The world does not revolve around you.

[@Wannes_]

It will have been a scary ride for sure Up to and over 8000 ft/min up and down is one heck of a rollercoaster First time they might have thought the pilots regained control, but not the 10th time ... Flight crew did an amazing job, bringing it that close to the runway ... twice

[@Cars-k8e]

They tried not to die and they thought that they can possibly survive it

[@SultanOfThrones]

RIP!😢😢😢

[@SultanOfThrones]

​@@Wannes_😢😢😢😢😢

[@andrewmacdonald4833]

I hope they reveal the pilot's identities before too long..they deserve to be recognised for their courage.

[@shahinakhundov9684]

They both sadly died during the landing and their bodies already buried in the Alley of Honor in Baku.

[@hipotenuza5663]

Captain Igor Kshnyakin, co-pilot Aleksandr Kalyaninov, chief flight attendant Hokuma Alyeva ( the one who calmed passengers in the video before the crash).

[@interestsavvy6813]

Man he did everyonea solid, trying to get to Kazakh land instead of Russia. He knew that they would never be found if in Russia

[@hipotenuza5663]

​@@interestsavvy6813fog + drones attack + active air defence. They did their best to survive.

[@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf]

Revealed already. For both pilots Russian fist name and last name - Igor Kshnyakin and Aleksandr Kalyaninov.

[@sandpatch133]

Thanks for the horizontal format

[@mattgilbert5850]

If the plane was damaged in that area, the pilots did an incredible job keeping the plane in the air long enough to land on firm ground..

[@All-Nippon-Airways]

That was due to the failure of hydraulic pressure after being hit by a missile. The pilot manually controlled the elevator, but it was too heavy to push or pull, and it crashed out of control. The pilot tried his best. Anyone who has flown the ERJ subject has found it so difficult to control. It was pulled and pushed by hand. very tired

[@davewood9888]

That cockpit crew obviously had a monumental struggle to maintain some level of control over the aircraft and very likely did an extraordinary job to get as far as they did.

[@moosesnWoop]

Those people only survived because of those pilots. Full respect to their names - hope we hear their names soon.

[@hipotenuza5663]

They are known: captain Igor Kshnyakin , co-pilot Aleksandr Kalyaninov, chief flight attendant Hokuma Alyeva ( it's her calming down the passengers in the video from the plane ).

[@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf]

Investigation will show if that was correct decision made by pilots.

[@hipotenuza5663]

@@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf Investigation will take months. And using data from the plane in the simulator.They had 75 minutes to make decisions. Not the same environment.

[@romanaventurini1869]

​@@FirstNameLastName-hy1pfinfatti: perché non sono tornati a Baku ????

[@RichardMcLaren]

What decision. Get back in your box, you have no clue what you're talking about

[@antagonist99]

We should probably remember that *anyone* walking away from a plane that's stuck in a barely controllable phugoid cycle is greatly exceeding reasonable expectations, as the NTSB's report on UAL 232 shows. It's especially lamentable that the cockpit crew died, as those pilots' experience could've helped mitigate or prevent similar disasters as part of a subsequent training regimen.

[@manfredstrappen7491]

“How to (almost) survive another missile strike in an airliner” shouldn’t be a thing.

[@pauloshikoy5068]

If I were to build an airline, it would definitely be Embraer planes. According to the flight attendant, he was hit by three anti-aircraft missiles. It was quite a trajectory, but to think that this plane managed to travel all that distance and despite such a devastating event, 29 people survived. What a great construction by Embraer, not to mention the pilots who were true heroes. Keep up the videos, man. It would be so interesting to have a playlist of how you make these animations.

[@leokimvideo]

The pilots are heroes, never gave up trying to fly an uncontrollable aircraft after missile damage

[@NorthForkFisherman]

And let's stop calling this a "crash". This was a shootdown. If either through incompetence or intent, this was the use of arms against an unarmed civilian aircraft.

[@waddles4560]

It’s still technically a crash. The cause is by damage caused by a SAM but they crashed into the ground. MH17 was a shoot down. Immediately broke up after getting hit, pilots had no time to respond let alone do anything. Honestly it’s a miracle the EM190 didn’t also break up like MH17.

[@Internetbutthurt]

@@waddles4560 Which makes one wonder what hit it. Anti air missiles usually blow stuff out of the sky but the damage was only light apart from the unlucky severing of the hydraulics. Could have been a drone, could have been the missile intercepting a drone near to the aircraft, we dont know yet.

[@Internetbutthurt]

While your bias is obvious are you going to express any criticism of the Ukrainians for attacking civilian airports with drones and knowingly putting airliners at extreme risk? It is possible the Ukrainians were baiting air defense hoping to cause something like this. Flight J28243 was, by some accounts, 1 minute out from Grozny when the drone attack was detected which indicates either REALLY unfortunate timing or deliberate intent on the Ukrainian side.

[@KitsuneKiera]

@@waddles4560I would imagine that part of the reason it didn’t break up is that the altitude was fairly low so the pressure differential from the inside to the outside of the aircraft would’ve been minimal, plus the speed the aircraft was travelling at, plus some luck that the missile didn’t detonate next to the cockpit like what happened to MH17 (or as lucky as you can be being shot down by incompetent Russians). I do think it is a little pedantic to say it’s technically a crash, a shoot down is a shoot down regardless if the plane breaks up immediately or limps away and crashes later the direct cause was still it getting shot at.

[@Travis_22]

It is a crash, caused by missiles.

[@fruit_goose]

Heroic effort by the pilots, may they rest in peace. First officer Aleksandr Kalyaninov was a childhood friend of mine - he was an amazing guy. Brave, hard working, kind, intelligent and a true inspiration. Покойся с миром Саша. Я тебя никогда не забуду.

[@SultanOfThrones]

😢

[@stefanmargraf7878]

Imagine to fly 75 minutes in an oszillating depressurized aircraft to crash finally...RIP

[@72marshflower15]

Do big words make you feel secure?

[@mwd331]

​@@72marshflower15 Is this helpful?

[@mace8873]

@@72marshflower15 Which "big words"?

[@72marshflower15]

@@mwd331 ~ it is helpful when people spell things correctly, let alone use words correctly, yes..

[@mwd331]

@@72marshflower15 Great, thanks for your input. We're all the better for it.

[@pmbuthia4210]

Its bitter abd sweet to hear Ian's voice over the Christmas period. He would have loved to be resting but an aviation emergency occured. Cant wait for the next Avtalk podcast. Will wait till the new year for it 🙏🏾

[@PedroHenriquePS00000]

Bruh this just shows how much quality embraer planes have. Even after a MISSILE attack pilots still managed to bring the plane to the coast. Heros.

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

Actually they were lucky it appears it was only a single smaller missile that hit. The russian missile that brought down that malaysia flight years back was much larger so they had no chance. You might be right though at this point there quality can't be any worse then boeing.

[@Aboard_and_Abroad]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 mh17 was just mh380 rebadged

[@johnbidwell2393]

The intended targets here for surface to air ordnance are Ukranian autonomous drones, so it's unsurprising a passenger aircraft survived the initial strike.

[@bruno_tcs]

Let me guess: you're Brazilian 😅

[@hajimammada]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 russian air defense system targeted this plane three times not just one.

[@righteothenable]

It appears the plane went phugoid. For other flights to learn more about just how amazing these pilots are for saving anyone, or even just controlling the plane for as long as they did, look at famous flights JAL123 and UAL232.

[@Nooticus]

Absolutely amazing reconstruction of the section without ADSB data. Not enough people are praising you for this revolutionary advancement. Also, I’m very proud to say that the only airline I flew on in 2024 was in fact Azerbaijan Airlines. What heroes, so so skilled at their craft.

[@felixx321]

My god that rollercoaster ride over the Caspian.. I feel awful for those on board having to endure that.

[@charlesnicholson7539]

The implication of the fuselage damage and the phugoid cycle is *clear.* The airplane sustained shrapnel damage such that all hydraulic systems became inoperable, and the pilots could not control the airplane through its flight control surfaces.

[@cejannuzi]

Planes have lost hydraulic systems without shrapnel damage. Why don't you put a few stitches in down there and wait for the investigation results?

[@TalibanAtrocities]

​@@cejannuzi🤣🤣🤣 A few basic pictures show the shrapnel damage! Open YOUR eyes and don't be ignorant

[@scs552]

​@@cejannuzithe shrapnel damage is crystal clear, a plane's tail doesn't just get plagued with holes after crashing, plus the survivors reported hearing an explosion and shrapnel piercing into the aircraft, it doesn't take much research to find this out

[@langdalepaul]

@@cejannuzibut there is photographic evidence of what is almost certainly shrapnel damage on the tail section.

[@testchannelplsignore8509]

@@cejannuzi The damage to the fuselage is clear. This flight was 100% shot down by Ruzzia.

[@llynellyn]

You can see they were having trouble controlling it without hydraulics (it requires massive sustained strength) and that would only have got worse once it was configured for landing, RIP to the hero pilots, they came so close :(

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

As far as I understand the E190 has no manual reversion, i.e. with loss of all three hydraulic systems they lost all primary flight controls (ailerons, elevator, rudder) and spoilers. I've seen a post that said the stabilizer trim position matched what it would typically be in cruise, which would seem to suggest they lost that system as well (which seems plausible enough given the damage done to the tail).

[@llynellyn]

@@MatthijsvanDuin Ailerons are cable driven on the E190 it's just really hard without hydraulics. The secondary controls are fly by wire though so totally gone.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@llynellyn I wasn't sure about the ailerons but I found a document by Embraer saying "Aileron inoperable if both HYD failed" so I trusted that. The other primary controls are fly by wire and ultimately the biggest problem they faced was loss of elevator.

[@jwfox54]

Thanks Ian. Great summary.

[@benyomovod6904]

Looks to me, the pilots lost controls due to hydraulic malfunktion, navigating just varying the engines power. A masterpiece of pilots excelence

[@anon1832]

It seems likely they were forced to use engines to control altitude, and direction with asymmetric thrust

[@krist6074]

Thank you for the detailed analysis! Unbelievable that this is happening in the 21st century!

[@retinaquester]

Happened AGAIN you mean. And again Russia.

[@Blast6926]

Thanks to the west living off profits from wars

[@bobeyes3284]

Happened 10 years ago and Russians worshipped the ground the murderer walked on. Sick people.

[@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf]

Why do you think they will not provide the same analysis for MH370?

[@Ragnar-b5m]

Those pilots did their best to get that plane down safely

[@Infarlock]

Didn't know you guys have a channel, subbed Would love to see more!

[@marielfluhr]

Happy New Year Ian and Jason et al.!

[@user-zz8lb6bd7p]

Seems Russia wanted it crash in the sea

[@Zoli049]

Yes. And they expected this to happen on the Russian side. You shouldn't expect a fair result from the Azerbaijanis either. Maybe Kazakhstan is leaking information. The manufacturer is also committed to the Russians, unfortunately.

[@nspro931]

Russia did not have anything to say about it. In an emergency the pilots are in command, not the ground. They would have wanted to go to Aktau because it was flat and had good weather unlike the area of the accident. Plus nobody was shooting at stuff in the area of Aktau.

[@li_B4shar_il]

There's no proof that Russia shot it down, nobody has second thoughts about Ukraine it seems

[@ZarkowsWorld]

@@nspro931 Russia denied emergency landing after them (the Russians) targeted the flight with their weapon - so they have everything to do with it.

[@SultanOfThrones]

​@@li_B4shar_ilyou watch Putin's video after the crash its so obvious he felt guilty and nervous

[@lubova5732]

We must know the truth! Thank you for your work.

[@meso8848]

you won't get the truth since during that time there was Ukrainian drones hitting Grozny... They want talk about it... They will focus on blaming Russia as usual

[@tj4234]

What JAL 123's pilots did was incredible. But these guys took the ball even further. They nearly achieved the impossible. Legends.

[@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf]

Missing part. *When was first receiving of 7700 code from this airplane?*

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

05:25 UTC

[@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf]

@@Flightradar24DotCom , thanks for reply! How do you know that it was at 5:25 UTC if at that time Flight Radar do not have normal information from airplane? Was that code explicitly received in so colled degraded mode?

[@fromagefrizzbizz9377]

@@FirstNameLastName-hy1pf The ADRS-B transmitter aboard the aircraft was working perfectly all the way up to crashing. During that time, all the data that could be produced onboard (such as time, heading etc) . The only issue is that the Russians jammed GPS, and the ADRS-B had no GPS location to forward to the receiver.

[@flare242]

The poor pilots... They did an amazing job. The plane must have been borderline uncontrollable...

[@planespeaking]

Terrifying final minutes for many. Planes had holes in fuselage synonymous with with Buk missile which was also used to shoot down MH17 and uses rods in its warhead to obliterate its target.

[@Sllottery2010]

Tell me, which country currently has the Buk in its arsenal?

[@marcus5551]

Current analysis suggests it was more likely to be the Pantsir air defence system

[@DCrypt1]

I'm guessing the damage came from a 57E6 Pantsir missile rather than the larger Buk's 9M38 or 9M317.

[@accipitermagna7104]

@@Sllottery2010 Russia

[@Sllottery2010]

@@accipitermagna7104 Russia removed Buks from the army in 2011.

[@Ken_G.]

Those pilots were phenomenal. And I'm very willing to bet that over the course of that flight they gave as many details and observations as they could for the cockpit recorder to save. I'm going to be very interested to hear what they had to say.

[@NITHINS]

Question: Is there any chance the impact would have been less if the plane landed on the water?

[@jonr6680]

No, sorry. Water is hard as concrete at speed, plus then it sinks.

[@tedbaxter5234]

Bless the crew, those killed and their loved ones.

[@iceman9678]

Important information would be when the damage occurred.

[@All-Nippon-Airways]

That was due to the failure of hydraulic pressure after being hit by a missile. The pilot manually controlled the elevator, but it was too heavy to push or pull, and it crashed out of control. The pilot tried his best. Anyone who has flown the ERJ subject has found it so difficult to control. It was pulled and pushed by hand. very tired

[@RubenKelevra]

Can you please release all raw data received for independent analysis?

[@Flightradar24DotCom]

The link to the data is available in the video description.

[@hipotenuza5663]

​@@Flightradar24DotCom Will you make a video about the S Korean plane crash? Thanks in advance !

[@Andreas-gh6is]

Apparently the pilots figured they could land at an airport rather than try an emergency landing. Or the crash was an attempt at an emergency landing when they decided they aren't going to make it to a landing strip.

[@diegosilang4823]

Based on my observation, if the flight control or flight surface are compromise, they have to maintain a speed fast enough to remain stable, United 232 throttle down their engines too early before landing led to the uncontrol banking to the right, while JAL 123 deployed the landing gear too early led to lose control and crash. An Israeli F-15 collided with another fighter jet and lose most of the right wing and spinning out of control. The Israeli pilot followed his instinct and engaged the afterburner to stabilized his aircraft and have to maintain a high speed while landing. When you encountered a similar situation, all you need is an airport that is flat and surrounded by open field, no water tanks, no buildings in the way keep the speed fast enough to remain stable (may way faster than ideal) but if the end of the runway is just a flat open field, you can afford to overshoot

[@enchantedrockview]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="22">0:22</a> YO, I had no idea they were so close to the Aktau airport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Tclans]

Thank you for this analysis. One thing I would like to have explained like I'm five, as to why the pilot decided to make that figure eight in front of the airport?

[@Yggdrasil42]

It looks like multiple failed approaches to land.

[@EllipticGeometry]

It looks like all the hydraulic systems were out, leaving them with almost no control. It’s like riding a bicycle with severed handlebars. You can keep riding and steer a bit by shifting your weight, but it’s not much. The remaining control with differential engine thrust and maybe trim is barely enough to stay aloft, let alone fly with any kind of precision. They must’ve been trying with all of their might to shoot a minimally tenable approach, hoping it would work out and otherwise bumbling around some more until it did. It’s very dire.

[@mendelde]

they came in from the sea but didn't align well enough with runway for the pilots to set down, so they turned around to try again. Normally, this would look like a racetrack. I don't know why it turned out a number 8, possibly they tried to learn how to come out of such a turn on the correct heading. This just goes to show how hard this is. Jet engines are anything but nimble, and any change to the throttle has delayed effects.

[@RobloxPablog]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="120">2:00</a> so the plane almost crashed multiple times before crashing?

[@indiexanna]

So this is basically JAL123 if they managed to find an open ground, with a lot of witnesses, and with swift rescue teams.

[@TheFlyingPlectrum]

looks like no pitch control other than using engine thrust. Pilots did well to get where they did. Perhaps in hindsight ditching near the coast may have been more controllable but only the crew on board could really make that call. They did a heroic job maintaining whet control they did.

[@vintagethrifter2114]

This is what's called an "Impossible Landing" made famous by United Airlines Flight 232 in 1989 at Sioux City, IA. There's video of it.

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

And miracle on the hudson with both engines out and no loss of life.

[@charlespeterson7149]

Just to shine a little light on how impossible a task these pilots ran into - unlike 232, these guys were faced with a depressurization, and wounded on board. They started losing control with a lot less altitude, so they had to learn to fly the ups and downs closer to the ground / water. Their navaids were lying to them, couldn't see the ground because of fog, and they had about 4 times as far to fly to get to their landing place. UA232 also had a lot more flight experience in the cockpit. The simple fact that Kshnyakin and Kalyaninov got anywhere close to getting people safely back on land is just mind-boggling.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 that's the exact opposite scenario though, they lost both engine but had normal flight controls. Losing all hydraulics and having nothing _but_ your engines left to try and control the plane is so much worse

[@markrobinowitz8473]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 The Hudson landing still had hydraulics, UAL 232 didn't. Nor the Azerbaijan flight.

[@CombatRadio]

As usual Russia will blame everyone except themselves. No country wants to mess with Russia. MH 17 is the example. Even Azerbaijani govt is speaking a heavily censored English

[@tonmoy4553]

What about Ukraine?

[@volodymyrpauk]

@@tonmoy4553 another one ruzzian troll detected

[@xXDrocenXx]

​@tonmoy4553 Russia is in war with Ukraine. It's Russia to blame to let passenger plains fligh into Russia and even than the risk takes is Russia. Russia is to blame, not Ukraine

[@li_B4shar_il]

There is no concrete proof that Russia shot down the airliner, everyone keeps saying it's Russia because it took place inside of Russia but no one has any second thoughts on Ukraine maybe Ukraine shot it down to make Russia look like the bad one here and even if they did it is most likely on accident

[@bobeyes3284]

@@tonmoy4553 What about them? What's you trying to dribble out?

[@lwaldron9745]

The un-turn-off-able captioning is so annoying.

[@Vladimirthetiny]

Correction to the inaccuracy at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="34">0:34</a> "a common occurrence due to Russian jamming of gps signals"

[@Nexplane]

Please make the 3D flight path view available for mobile, it can be premium just looks better and gives you a clearer picture

[@maxdronov]

why they did not land in Grozniy?

[@Unqiue351]

Because Gronzy have fog so it's is not ok plane to land and that why they change reroute

[@romanaliyev4082]

Russia shot down our E190🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@meso8848]

you mean Ukrainians ?? They were hitting Russia (Grozny) with drones...

[@bossycool]

How about recovering data from the "black box" in the aircraft?

[@hipotenuza5663]

That will take weeks/ months. Two of them were found.

[@christianson6240]

Why the pilot choose to land in soil why not in water?

[@NekiCat]

A water landing is much more difficult, and the wreck will be much harder to reach to begin rescue operations.

[@christianson6240]

@NekiCat ah I see

[@robynsnest8668]

Regardless of specifics, let's keep in memory the flight crew. They saved lives. Amazing. This is Iowa United crash all over again. Will be interesting to see how it helped save lives on this flight. Eeriely similar.

[@Tommytoolsqueezer]

I wonder if they had a better chance of a softer impact ditching in the ocean instead?

[@CRJ08]

Check the firmware of receivers. Version 2.0.3 and 2.0.6 don't show coordinates of aircraft beyond 200 nmi, it shows heading and speed but no position on the map, in the local ip/map, version 1.5.x didn't have this issues, as always, support say nothing is wrong 😑

[@rl9860]

Turn of the silly background "music" please. It doesn't add anything to your video. Otherwise good informative video.

[@raccoon874]

99% of yt videos have annoying 'music' over the content - humans have been conditioned to believe that silence is bad.

[@HuckThis1971]

I wonder if they would have had better chance ditching it in the oceon not far off the coast. But I must say these pilots did a magnificent job no matter what. Especially out of skydrol to control the aircraft. My condolences to all that have passed!

[@vusalsahmerdanov6104]

Pilots are heroes saved lives. RIP

[@theobjectivethinker64]

Does anyone know if there were survivors from the front section.

[@hipotenuza5663]

Zero, that part exploded

[@Tarik120]

Why he did not choose to land on water?

[@ChiscoTube]

Are you ok?

[@snail-i9f]

water = Asphalt same ok?

[@pondking2801]

At those speeds, hitting water is like hitting concrete.

[@zahir2023]

RIP all departed souls !!!

[@Jessie-cv8lg]

thats bad. On christmas aswell

[@hipotenuza5663]

Muslims and Orthodox Christians were on the plane, none of them celebrate it.

[@ramrod9556]

The black box data will be invaluable

[@redcat9436]

I suspect that the FDR and CVR will both disappear.

[@waddles4560]

Honestly, it probably won’t be that valuable. We already know what caused the damage leading to the crash. The black box won’t tell you what kind of SAM hit it. The fuselage itself is probably more valuable. The FDR and CVR will give us a picture of what the pilot did in order to fly for an incredible hour and a half. But yeah we can already presume loss of hydraulic due to fragmentation damage (due to a SAM) as the cause of the crash.

[@SultanOfThrones]

Wounded Caspian Butterfly. RIP Captain Igor Kshnyakin, Pilot Alexander Kalyaninov, stewardess Höküme Aliyeva.

[@bannawitkongkasmut]

wait a SAM did this? world war 3 hello?

[@thefpvlife7785]

Knowing you’re severely damage why not try landing on water instead.

[@erdmannchen6241]

Afaik water temperatures were around 8°C(46°F) during that time. Remember flight ET961 in 1996? Did not end well in much warmer water.

[@IrishCarBomb77]

@@erdmannchen6241 Reading into it, a bunch of those people died because they inflated their life jackets while still inside the plane, trapping themselves.

[@cirkmannzirkel8229]

Flight path reminiscent of JAL 123 in 1985

[@SanoyNimbus]

Luckily for the surviving passengers this Russian anti aircraft missile did not explode near the cockpit like it did in the beginning of the Russian war against Ukraine in 2014 … that time the pilots where the first casualties and everyone was doomed. This time the pilots lived long enough to save as many passengers as they could.

[@waddles4560]

That time the entire plane broke up in the air. The plane literally ceased to exist so of course the pilot couldn’t do anything. This time they were lucky that the strike was towards the rear and the fuselage held up. The shrapnel damage in the rear going from right to left indicates the missile’s proximity fuse blew up on the rear right.

[@meso8848]

what Russian war against Ukraine in 2014??!!! Dude you're totally confused lol !!! What the heck you're saying????

[@ShaCaro]

@@meso8848 Bold of you to be so openly and verifiably wrong. Russia was involved in a proxy war in the easternmost regions of Ukraine at the time. Not to mention the invasion of Crimea in 2014. They have been doing that shit for decades all over the world, especially eastern Europe and Africa.

[@RomanTheFreeMan]

Any pilots in the comments? I'm sure the pilots of the plane tried their best given the situation... But just hypothetically, would a landing attempt into the sea near the shore be a safer option?

[@hipotenuza5663]

It would have been zero survivors, at that speed water surface will be same as hitting ground. Any possible surviver would have drowned or died of hypothermia. This was best decision considering the situation.

[@RomanTheFreeMan]

@@hipotenuza5663 it was descending rather fast indeed… What a horrible situation to be in.

[@hipotenuza5663]

@@RomanTheFreeMan captain had 15000 flight experience, he knew the better option.

[@NekiCat]

Additionally, the pilots would be aware that rescue is far away when in water, it's much better to crashland near an airport that's already set up with rescue vehicles.

[@cspaulin]

I do not understand why the Azerbaijan Airlines Embraer E190 airplane was at the Russian city of Grozny in the first place because it was closed, as RT reported. If I were the pilot, I would not go to a closed airport. An Azerbaijan Airlines passenger plane that crashed in Kazakhstan this week had to be diverted away from the Russian city of Grozny because the airport there was temporarily closed due to Ukrainian drone attacks, Dmitry Yadrov, the head of Russia’s Federal Air Transport Agency, has said. Poor weather conditions also contributed to problems on the ground, he added.

[@SultanOfThrones]

Nobody told us it was closed. Everything happened at the same time.

[@cspaulin]

RT -- 27 December, 2024 11:15 Russian officials reveal why doomed Grozny-bound plane diverted to Kazakhstan An Azerbaijan Airlines passenger plane that crashed in Kazakhstan this week had to be diverted away from the Russian city of Grozny because the airport there was temporarily closed due to Ukrainian drone attacks, Dmitry Yadrov, the head of Russia’s Federal Air Transport Agency, has said. Poor weather conditions also contributed to problems on the ground, he added.

[@freshbarofsoap]

The objective is providing knowledge, not entertaining us. Please lose the music!!

[@KoNyan-g8g]

Flight radar 24 is scarm

[@gill5132]

What the pilot was doing left and right and turning circle and if pilot knew that flight going to have crash landing why pilot thought about at that time to land in sea and call for help rescue

[@warren6891]

The pilots and crew are hero's and should be in every news story. Russia blocked them landing and sent them out to sea hoping to go down in sea to hide the truth what Russia had done. They got the plane back to land saving many life's and showing the world Russia true colours again. I hope all airlines see how you can't trust flying into Russia at all.

[@qball6520]

I highly doubt the plane did a loop!!!

[@NorthForkFisherman]

Where do you think the aircraft did a loop? At timestamp 02:06? Check out the shadow underneath.

[@avus-kw2f213]

RIP

[@bigfoot163]

Those pilots are heroes!!! The fact they saved half the passengers is incredible

[@southgpfi]

Duh it was hit 😢

[@flyblu80]

I don't really believe that story about the weather.

[@feelincrispy7053]

Not a good week for travelling on aircraft..

[@Skibike473]

Did Russian ATC send the damaged aircraft over the Caspian Sea in the hope it would crash there to complicate the crash investigation ?

[@kinghis-c1l]

Today, Russia apologized for shooting down the plane. I’m not sure if a plane hit by a rocket can travel such a distance, but Azerbaijan pilots managed it. I don’t know if there’s such an event in history. Malaysia Buk missile.

[@wattage2007]

No they didn't. That's pure lies!

[@capt9]

Ask the Russians they always tell the truth

[@SultanOfThrones]

Some weird birds made of iron

[@woody5109]

If this was a “missile” Attack, only little chunks would have been found, good grief people.

[@raccoon874]

I agree, it was a swarm of very large and very angry bees that attacked the plane, leaving holes that only _look_ like flak fragment holes.

[@john8451]

Made multiple approaches? Really? Your own data shows that they only made one approach and crashed while trying to line up for another.

[@Roy-gi5ul]

Twice IS multiple!!!

[@wattage2007]

Was there someone on the plane the Russians wanted rid of?

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

Probably just air defence incompetence

[@chatgentil9870]

The russian 170mm crow bird strike😵

[@avus-kw2f213]

170mm ? 🇰🇵💪 just arrived in the country and already achieving aerial victories

[@chatgentil9870]

@avus-kw2f213 civilians, wow

[@avus-kw2f213]

@@chatgentil9870 no KPA are not civilians

[@chatgentil9870]

@@avus-kw2f213 indeed kilo pascal is a unit. But wrong topic mate.

[@avus-kw2f213]

@@chatgentil9870 very impressive accuracy from a large artillery

[@biliboma]

Не просто сбит случайно а запланировано сбит! Хотели подставить Украину! Тут и так все понятно, россия сознательно спланировала катастрофу самолета с пассажирами. 1. если страна ведет войну она должна закрыть свое воздушное пространство до завершения войны. 2.тем более не пускать самолеты гражданские в зону боевых действий, которой является Чечня? откуда россия запускает крылатые ракеты по Украине.. 3. россия специально использовала против самолета мощный реб, чтоб подавить все системы навигации, сигнализации, связи. 4. россия специально пропустила заграничный рейс, чтоб збить его. и самолет должен был упасть на территории россии, где россия планировала сфальсифицировать катастрофу, подбросил части от сбитых украинских дронов. 5. но случилось чудо, не смотря в отказе садится на всех российских аэродромах, самолет смог долететь до соседнего государства, где народ наснимал видео, фото и сразу выложил в интернет, и сразу все все стало ясно, тем более что выжившие дали показания что их обстреляли с российских зенитных оружий. 6. сразу после аварии, срочно были разработаны в кремле методички и задействованы все студенты силовых учебных заведений, мвд, фсб, .... все студенты строчили один наперед другог, но не удалось ввести в заблуждение мир. 7. После сбития этого самолета, для всех русских специально прокрутили рекламу как российский солдат ПВО, сбивает иностранный самолет с Санта Клаусом. И еще ехидно улыбается, что иностранные самолеты не будуть летать над территориией россии! Так, что все было спланировано, реально путин хотел подставить Украину, но не получилось. Самолет по расчетах россиян должен был или упасть в россии или затонуть....а там россия все бы сфальсифицировала, а оставшихся в живых добила как с поляками..

[@B737ci]

🇦🇿 🇹🇷

[@codernov]

Kadirov was giving medals to air defence officers, interesting, will he take them back now. 🤔

[@Qax08]

🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿💪💪

[@albaytr3698]

Russian roket !

[@NothernNate]

Azer' is very unhappy with their neighbor SAM's - 4 Passenger Jets - 0 🤔

[@konstantinbush295]

The pilots almost performed a miracle, given that the plane was out of control. In the end, they walked along the coast and had every chance to land the plane on the water, then there would be a chance to save everyone. But in the end they decided to turn towards the landing strip, which led to casualties. Although, perhaps this was a consequence of a failure in the control of the aircraft.

[@jsquared1013]

Hitting water at flight speed is the same as hitting concrete. It would have been worse than trying to make the runway or a dirt field.

[@theKingsAmbassadors]

If it is the RushYens, then it may be retaliation for that concert 'art-ache' that was done by Aza Bayjani peeps????