What the Buck were they thinking?

On Ring of The Hawk we always listen to the fans...which is why I held a vote and why i'm making this video on Generation Me/The Young Bucks.
Today I ask that we judge them fairly regardless of their wrestling style and your personal opinion. This all took place back in 2010 when a lot of people views were different and they didn't have anywhere near the sam amount of fans or enemies.
This isn't a program for backstory and what they were doing 30 years ago, this is straight up a new fans impression. There is a surprising lack of opponents on the show this week, we do see The Motor City Machine guns, Eric Bischoff and Matt Morgan...Yees that's about as good as it got I'm afraid.
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[@Markyd123]

As mentioned this video was won by a vote from you the fans. I haven’t sold out and gone soft, I still punch right where it hurts don’t worry!

[@jeremyyeomans3416]

Thank u hawk for the video I’m never this early hope you are having a nice day

[@purvalama6540]

LONG LIVE WEED

[@Markyd123]

@@purvalama6540 one day I will find some that goes well with Wes Brisco... okay maybe not.

[@KalmoK]

You should rate some NJPW show someday. Strong style wrestling is awesome, alltho they do not have so good entertaiment elements in their wrestling which is sad in my opinion

[@prairiehawker]

I never care what you upload. Your videos are highly entertaining for me Seeing that weak assed Bischoff spin kick made my day.

[@christophercolumbus6474]

So this is basically The Bucks vs MCMG for a whole year. Neat.

[@BrandonTaylor-wi2mv]

Neat

[@budakiarcher]

Hey, they faced Ink Inc a couple times!

[@alexsweet6957]

Before TNA tried breaking them up.. like TNA always dose

[@Ridley_Lockhart]

Both teams, Yung Bucks and MCMGs are awesome! 👌

[@Lance-wn9dc]

I watched them all lol

[@TonyExists]

When do we get EC3’s main roster WWE run for Ring of the Hawk lmao

[@TonyExists]

@Tiger I mean, if he did. He was still injured for most of his NXT run, so either way he probability still qualifies

[@RollysonMason]

I honestly always hated EC3. He was a comedy gimmick treated as a main eventer.

[@rubinadam3896]

The Ascension for ring of the hawk...!!!!

[@vegetalover9297]

@Lucien Hicks your garbage

[@treywar25]

@@RollysonMason because he was excellent in the ring and a good athlete

[@Marveryn]

i be honest if i was in my 20's and tara wanted to be my cougar i have no problem with her making me a men

[@insightworld422]

She aged very well

[@TheGodOfGravy]

NGL that whole cougar gimmick she had was pretty hot.

[@DaveMarshak]

I agree. Been a fan of LMV/Victoria/Tara since her indy days. Back then I always wondered why it looked like Gen Me/The Bucks were running from her? I found out that they were both married men soon after.

[@DashingPunkSamurai]

Wow she’d turn you plural, into multiples. Well Damn! That’s some woman. Then you could rock her Dr. Manhattan style

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

@Burn it All down 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Aaroncarter95]

Tara: "Wanna ride?" Me: "Yes." Tara: "Me or the bike?" Me: "Yes."

[@josho5423]

I can handle Matt being called Max, its a solid name and even phonetically similar - but every time Nick Jackson is called "Jeremy", I wince. it just feels wrong.

[@beingraven]

They look like overgrown babies anyways.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

Also, Markyd's frustration is what folks who watched SmackDown for most of 2009 had to deal with seeing Cryme Tyme take on the Hart Dynasty every week.

[@jansmitowiczauthor78]

Or like basically all of Raw for the past many years, lol.

[@lutherheggs451]

@@jansmitowiczauthor78 Could be worse could be All Friends Wrestling and their outlaw indie trash talent beating all the real talent they have...While of course the "executive VPs" are all running around with the belts

[@jasonoyola8550]

@@lutherheggs451 atleast they gave Darby the title instead of another elite member. But then again Kenny might want another belt lol

[@Junketsuadidas]

Or people watching Raw last year where every episode had the Viking raiders vs the street prophets I swear they’d even have multiple matches on a single show sometimes 😂

[@dranzerjetli5126]

Good for you. i blocked all of those repeat matches out of memory.

[@jameshenry9919]

"Man, the amount of talent in the undercard is unbelievable." *Proceeds to to review 20 separate Gen Me v. MCMG matches*

[@quentinkaasa47]

Seriously. TNA had an all-star roster in 2010 but that was only the upper card.

[@alteredveggie1495]

"this match again?!?" "Well fuck, it was good again"

[@Markyd123]

Haha pretty much yea

[@makattak9789]

I hate watching these old tna matches, It just makes me so mad to see all that potential wasted.

[@jeremyfratefrate6450]

For real the Buck's should've won the tag belt's.

[@leiineskaufmann]

yeh if i wanted to see wasted potential i would watch modern wwe

[@theRealPowro01]

Its really impressiv how clean MCMG and the Bucks are working their matches. Those crazy moves and the Timing is really good most of the time

[@deanpeanuts5112]

It’s a botch show wtf are you talking about

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@deanpeanuts5112 Don’t get how tf you see that?

[@talkingbenson5487]

So many cool and impressive spots. MCMG and the bucks really connected.

[@1nc0rr1g1bl3]

@@deanpeanuts5112 "Botch fest" sure bud, keep lying to yourself.

[@briannaodonnell2572]

@@deanpeanuts5112It's okay, you can watch eight foot tall men pace around the ring exchanging rest holds for fifteen minutes before hitting three punches and a power bomb all you want online.

[@jeffreycavanaugh340]

Real shit here I genuinely love how well spoken and original you are. Whether you're poking fun or actually critiquing, you always have original well thought out content mixed with hilarious puns and dark humor.

[@gst013]

This was hilarious...not sure I've ever seen anyone in any company booked into the same match over and over and over and over again for basically their whole run. This was like a house show circuit 😅

[@torriegotdrip6949]

The thing is they lost almost all thr matches they were glorified jobbers

[@VERDICTInsanity]

The problem with wrestling now imo is that everyone wants to be Stone Cold and nobody wants to be Al Snow

[@FlipsideJr]

false. EVERYONE wants to be a good company guy like Al snow and nobody wants to be the rebel who stands up for themself and what they wanna do like Stone Cold.

[@brentblack2878]

Stone cold said you shouldn't be in the wrestling business if you don't want to be world champion. So u kinda stupid

[@VERDICTInsanity]

@@brentblack2878 your missing the point dude, there’s not a belt for everyone at all times

[@VERDICTInsanity]

@Lucien Hicks yeah he’s an incredibly gifted performer, in another dimension he’s Shawn Michaels and HBK is Al Snow 😂 I was always a huge Al Snow fan, seems like he’s well respected by most

[@VERDICTInsanity]

@Lucien Hicks his shoot interviews are really fun to watch if u haven’t already

[@cjthehaasman9954]

Zach Gowen in WWE Dan Severn in WWF Mikey Whipwreck in WCW Sandman as Hardcore Hak in WCW Sid vicious in ECW Spike Dudley in TNA Muhammad Hassan

[@zyadashraf6075]

The Patriot in WWF

[@Markyd123]

Three of those videos are coming up really soon!

[@Venemofthe888]

add Orlando Jordan in TNA lol

[@deniscore8270]

Cant wait for dan severn

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Dan Severn should never be in a comment on the the bitch boys video of Young Fucks

[@hitek8]

I would like to see bucks vs motor city on dynamite. Just for nostalgic reasons since both companies are working together 😃

[@KalmoK]

That would be awesome dude!

[@RollysonMason]

Its Sucks Shelly is injured, but Alex arguably had his best work in 2019.

[@KalmoK]

@@RollysonMason Oh Yeah I forgot about that... Damn! It seems like they never are good to wrestle together nowadays, other one is always injured

[@volodymyrbilyk555]

Bucks, Guns and FTR six man forever, yes please

[@singerdude1992]

As much as I'd love that, Alex Shelley won't be returning for quite some time. He works in the medical profession while being a pro wrestler, and is doing all he can to be safe

[@i.still.function3463]

*Drinking game* - Take a shot everytime they face the Motor city machine guns.

[@razorsedge3107]

Alcohol 🍺 ☠️

[@louis3141]

You would have a Ric Flair liver by now

[@VinnieGer]

I read this before watching the video and I had no idea it was going to be that bad.

[@chadalpha7983]

Do you want people to die from alcohol poisoning?

[@Aaroncarter95]

My liver: "Stop stop I'm already dead."

[@Venemofthe888]

I think the problem i have with superkicks and suicide dives is that they are just overdone its not exciting when everyone does it. Like you can tell a story in the match without loads of dives in every match on the card. Be safe and be original is all i will say :)

[@Venemofthe888]

Also we gotta have Orlando Jordan do the J O B to the H A W K

[@Emporkommling]

That’s one guy who’ll lay down for Hollywood Hawk Hogan any night, any day (haha)

[@carybeweary7209]

It's funny how Shannon Moore was Jeff Hardy's stoner friend and a Mattitude follower before that!

[@self-parternerd8661]

Problems with the TNA Bucks. - Backstage: Hogan&Co didn't care about them so they were basically always buried. - In the ring: On par with the MCMG but their spots were more contrived than MCMG's so, at the time, I felt they were trying to overdo it (I distinctly remember ranting on Figure4online about how they shouldn't have spots with 3 Superkicks while James Storm is winnig matches with the Last Call... well, we all know where that train went). - Promos: Very VERY shitty (the main difference with the Guns were Shelley's promos)... the name was Generation Me, Mike Tenay used to introduce them as "Representing the Me Generation" and their promos were "We want X... It's me, me, me!" No wonder I hated them... There was not a single chance to take them seriously.

[@demoncyborg98]

I seriously liked beer money more. And they were heels too.

[@dree35]

​@demoncyborg98 " BEER.... MONEY! " That itself is better than the Young bucks lmaoo

[@justinthunder6284]

23:41 The WWE technically did it before them. Rock vs Mankind? Empty arena match?

[@kevinramsey417]

I didn't used to be a Young Bucks fan. It wasn't that I thought they were untalented, quite the contrary, they were athletic as hell. But they did win me over as I started getting into New Japan.

[@Carlitonsp1]

Same boat myself, though their NJPW run is debatably the most restrained they've ever been in their entire career.

[@kodiak1984]

Did they get themselves over in NJPW or was it their association with the Bullet Club? I have a different take on them. First impressions count and as generation me, which was my first exposure to them, I was not impressed. Yes, athletic as hell but their promos, character work and image in TNA put me off. And i think they were booked like how they were perceived backstage. I've never gotten past that or they never gave me a reason to. How I rate them now is simple; you seen one Young Bucks match, you've seen them all! I dont think they would be where they are now if it wasnt for their association with the Bullet Club. The Bullet Club got the Young Bucks over more than they could do themselves

[@Carlitonsp1]

@@kodiak1984 Its a bit of a mix, Bucks themselves have talked about how they already did the stuff that Bullet Club were known for, so they meshed pretty well. They also do a great job of connecting with passionate niches in wrestling, something that can give a stable leg to stand on. That being said, NJPW doesn't exactly have a "Prestigious" tag division, and people often overlook their thin roster of opponents.

[@zakrowe1301]

For me it was their second roh run

[@IGCproductions2001]

Sandman in WCW

[@dylan2na652]

HARDCORE HAK

[@RollysonMason]

Rhyno in Ring of Honor for ROH

[@RollysonMason]

@Tiger Yeah, but it would be insanely easy since Ring of Honor doesn't care about copyright.

[@torriegotdrip6949]

@Tiger tna is a b show for the last 5 years until now

[@zakrowe1301]

@Tiger how is it a b show?

[@TommyVinMI]

Gunner scott

[@juicyeboi9006]

Damn that Matt Hardy submission looked awesome. He should've kept using it

[@Lazer81095]

I'd love to see Christopher Nowinski's main roster run in WWE on Ring of the Hawk. He had exactly 30 matches total on Raw and on PPV

[@LesCritiquesduMaSQuE]

Never knew Okada once had the honor of being Suicide. That's deep lore right there.

[@Markyd123]

That’s the type of gut punches I deliver

[@D57]

He wasn't

[@RobertJW]

@@D57 he was on excursion.

[@years-ti7xl]

@@RobertJW Yeah I think for those who aren't aware, when AJ Styles called Okada "young boy" when he debuted in NJPW, it's a reference to that.

[@LokiTricksterG]

I've seen websites say that it's Okada, but I don't think it's true. The guy playing Suicide there is the same size as Brian Kendrick, but Okada is way taller than Kendrick. For comparison, Kendrick is 5'8 whereas Okada is 6'3, so unless Okada found a way to shrink himself, there's no way he was playing Suicide.

[@tomweber4415]

I really think Shannon Moore wasn’t that bad tbh 3 Count (Helms, Moore, Karagias) in WCW would be a good add to the roster if you ever go for a stable

[@Markyd123]

Yea he surprised me in this video

[@frankcabanski9409]

The Young Bucks style isn't a problem until it becomes the style for every match on a card or the majority of matches.

[@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404]

I hate all petite wrestling

[@Markyd123]

You're not alone from the sounds of it, but it didn't exist back in 2010!

[@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404]

@@Markyd123 true

[@Stumpers24]

Me too. I tried to like it but it’s complete garbage

[@nialllappin4159]

@@slayerofcrusadersandsmallh6404 Yeah Lance Archer is too petite.

[@vegetalover9297]

You know The Rock and Mick Foley had an empty Arena match in 99 right? So WWE did not copy TNA

[@Ramblebar]

Yeah I believe that was the Half-Time Heat Match where there fight ends up in the arena concessions warehouse and Mankind pins The Rock with assistance from a forklift and pallet Great Match but you cannot forget to mention the Empty Arena Match between Jerry Lawler and Terry Funk in Memphis!!!

[@mrsilence666]

Man, WWF ran empty arena matches week in and week out for a while there. It was called the New Generation Era.

[@vegetalover9297]

oof​@@mrsilence666

[@vegetalover9297]

​@@Ramblebarcorrect

[@dogquin1001]

I think a problem that unfortunately the young bucks to do with is the lack of diversity in tag wrestling, we don’t have a road worriers or Steiner brothers to contrast their style, other teams like the new day are partly a part of this problem and In my opinion the way to fix this is to push teams that have different styles of wrestling. Some examples of old tag teams that provided styles we need of are, heart foundation, team 3D, Steiner brothers and edge & Christian

[@names_are.uselessyt7908]

ronda lousey! is she paying you not to expose her inability?

[@Markyd123]

Never watched a single match of hers! That bad is it?

[@names_are.uselessyt7908]

@@Markyd123 the worst. She had to be carried by everyone she worked with (she was outworked by Stephanie McMahon in her debut) then she buried them in ring, like the SUper Cena vs Nexus match on steroids. if you've ever seen how it looks when natalya applies a double sharpshooter then imagine 10x worse when Lousey applied her double armbar and her "hulking up" before throwing the silliest looking barrage of punches was the funniest saddest in wwe at the time.

[@ellieellieonthewall9189]

I said “what was the point of that” so many times during this video 😂😂😂

[@kitsunemaru]

Can we get that Oz video eventually, it sounds like it would be a "fun" watch.

[@Markyd123]

Yes I’m going to be selfish and do it because I’ve wanted to do it for like a year. The squad can shuv it!

[@Emporkommling]

The man who looks like Elvis in his first WCW run (as the Diamond Studd) and Hall in the AWA would be great candidates for Ring of the Hawk.

[@billrusso6422]

In AEW if Godzilla used his atomic breath and Thanos snapped his fingers simultaneously the Bucks would still kick out at 2

[@walsh9080]

They make Super Cena look humble, because at least Cena was the size of a wrestler when he did this and Cena wasn't in control of the booking (despite probably having a large say in how he was booked).

[@DaveMarshak]

So true. That's one of many major things that are killing their tag team division.

[@lukewarmstanhouston9957]

I like how you updated the "match title" section. The "SSN" set up looks way better than the generic letters.

[@maodijong3661]

You know, the problem with The Buck's isn't even their wrestling style, they aren't the first flippers and they won't be the last. It's the fact that they walk around, all smug like they are some exceptional wrestling commodity while they have the physiques of a 12 year old boy LOL

[@dennett316]

Thing is, they are an exceptional wrestling commodity. Always in demand all over the world, well regarded, now a huge part of a significant player in the industry. If all you want is great physiques, then Jinder Mahal is the ultimate talent for you, I guess.

[@RedFox0909]

No there style sucks as well, not because they’re “flippy” but because h they don’t understand ring psychology. One hundred fake finishes, beating up guys twice there size without selling, the fact that the genuinely believe they are “special”. They’re just awful.

[@dieselviper7811]

I just don’t get why they won’t hit the weight room and at least try to look somewhat imposing. Guys like this won’t help wrestling become cool and profitable again no matter how many cool moves they have

[@shayurmohun5435]

I think that face was meant to be his Heel Guy Mean Face 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@RobAdieComedy]

The whole intro I was thinking "Okay, enough misdirection, who are you really reviewing?" Sometimes the best swerve is no swerve at all.

[@msmpassat]

Back when balding buck had a decent hair line

[@JesseGMan7]

Cults are bad you shouldn’t join them

[@zakrowe1301]

His hair hasnt really changed

[@mxmoondoggie895]

Young Bucks took so long to make it beyond the indies because of their well documented attitudes. Their TNA run might have gone better if they didn't have big egos and think they are better than anyone else. They managed to screw up a WWE developmental deal after pissing off WWE locker room veterans when getting a tryout that apparently went really well. They've always been the fake it till you make it types and treated others in the locker room as below them. Tbh if they didn't get that NJPW run in the Bullet Club and become friends with Cody they'd still be nobodies. The only people who would care about them still would be wrestling nerds and 40 year old jaded WWE fans who say they hate Raw but still watch it. These guys almost as much of a botched career and wasted potential as Teddy Hart does, at least he managed to make it into a WWE developmental deal several times. These guys blew it right away and were never invited back.

[@nbaldwin45]

In one of his podcasts, Bruce Prichard said that even back in their early TNA days and before they'd had more than a handful of matches, the Bucks carried themselves like megastars. He said they were actually nice guys but they were more impressed with themselves than anyone else was. It's funny to see Bischoff kiss their arses in his podcasts now when he rightfully didn't give them the time of day back then.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

I think wrestling to should try to cater to all kinds of wrestling fans. That's honestly what made TNA from 2004-2009 great. (Aside from Double J hogging the main event spotlight) they had all the high flying stuff, but they also had the big powerhouses doing the big power moves. I think there should be variety in wrestling.

[@arostwocents]

It was built after Nitro back then, now it's built after ROH along with all wrestling

[@arostwocents]

TNA only need to turn their show into an old style wrestling show based around characters and storylines rather than solely in ring action and they would stand out and be worth watching. The Hawk's example episodes were actually better than anything we see now

[@T1214-k9c]

I just don't see the hype of the Young Bucks. Never have

[@southern_puma]

I think that they are what's wrong with wrestling now. they can't work, they can't sell, they can't stop taking shots at WWE now. they just need to go back to the indies because they'll never be like aj or cole.

[@Muss67]

@@southern_puma have you actually watched any match of theirs in the last year? Because you saying they cant work or sell is just flat out wrong...

[@southern_puma]

@@Muss67 i wouldnt have said that if I hadn't. and do you know what selling even is? selling is making fans thing you are hurt. the young fucks pop out some bullshit flippy nonsense when they would be selling. so don't tell me they know how to sell or work cuz they don't. and you wont change my mind

[@joshuaarmand5236]

Popping up instantly after a Canadian destroyer off the top rope isn’t selling.

[@temper5858]

It would be cool to see a Pentagon Jr Ring of the hawk

[@janos14]

Fucking Matt Boring , gets me everytime LMAO.

[@KHaskins23]

The Bucks actually had great in ring chemistry with MCMG. I thought their matches were fun to watch but I understand you hate that stuff Marky D so no need to hit me with a brick.

[@Markyd123]

I don’t mind the odd one but it was 5 or 6 times in the space of a few months!

[@Aaroncarter95]

No matter how great the matches are, if you face the same people week after week and PPV after PPV it's going to get old, no matter how many flips you include.

[@coltonkool6939]

I absolutely hate Balding and Pieface buck but I’ll watch because I Like Marky

[@bigdaddymlora]

33 minutes of markyd wow we blessed

[@Markyd123]

Might be longest video of all time

[@bigdaddymlora]

@@Markyd123 here's to many more

[@krisk6954]

Midnight express should be next

[@RC99_Productions]

I loved the Motor City Machine Guns/Generation Me rivalry. It was honestly one of the better things to come out of TNA's dark ages when Hogan was there, and that is mainly due to the Machine Guns themselves. Sabin and Shelley put on great matches with almost every tag team during the time.

[@thedeadlynose5127]

My fav tag team ever

[@danielthemaniel8601]

I know you typically don't do WWE content in general, much less for Ring of the Hawk but you should do a ROH video for Kizarny/Sinn Bodhi's run in WWE. Dude had months of vignettes, wrestled far fewer than 30 matches and left just as soon as he came almost like all the hype was for naught

[@rockerboyrage1609]

I love the intro. I'm an old school wrestling fan myself but I'll do better not to make fun of the current generation of prowrestlers or the fans that love them. The Hawk nailed it here on the divide in the fandom.

[@talkingbenson5487]

i loved Generation ME during their first months. Therefore, I dont think that most of these early multi tag team matches are D's. Its sad how it all ended tho. TNA completely wasted them. Also they fought MCMG's way too much. Did TNA ran out of other tag teams back then?

[@IceAssassin25]

Here is some wrestlers I would like to see on Ring of the Hawk Ronda Rousey in WWE as she had exactly 30 TV Show/PPV Matches (That's if female wrestlers will get on ROH) Kenny Omega in Ring Of Honor since he had 27 TV/PPV Matches Steve Austin in New Japan Pro Wrestling since he had 8 TV/PPV Matches Jushin Thunder Liger in WCW since he had 28 TV/PPV Matches Insane Clown Posse in WCW since they had around 10 TV/PPV Matches

[@captainzest6332]

I'll always feel bad for Orlando tge guy came out as bi and impact saw this as a sign that he needed more cation tape and hooter garb he wasn't bad but impact sure didn't help his progression ik this isn't what the videos about but the bucks are great you know the deal

[@foxholiday4308]

These guys are super super talented, but I just don’t care for the new high flyers, they don’t sell like the old cats, and it really kills it for me

[@foxholiday4308]

For real, and I’m bigger than he is, it’s like fuck where did the art form disappear to

[@TheAutisticKing]

Hey Marky how about Christian in Ecw.

[@baeshin]

in match 4, you said Shelley did an "unusual submission". I know it as the "Queen Angelito stretch" not sure of any other names it's been called.

[@riazuddin4920]

You know there's a middle ground between high flying and just big heavies? Guys like Rollins fit that middle ground perfect!

[@Flakeinhoo]

I won’t stop saying this marky! We want more nwa Tna! You said once a week so give us it once a week marky or u can shuv it!

[@Markyd123]

Don’t worry I promise one of the next videos will be. I’m enjoying it!

[@Flakeinhoo]

@@Markyd123 yesssssss! Thanks for Giving us some real wrestling content ,unlike Tom top ten wrestling

[@Markyd123]

@@Flakeinhoo Thanks brother. Think Tom is juggling a lot of uni work whilst trying to maintain some sort of life in this crazy world.

[@cjm4045]

WWE didn't copy the empty arena match lol also a fun fact the first empty arena match was jerry lawler vs terry funk.

[@ImagineABear]

That Zach Gowen footage at the beginning...are we finally getting a Zach Gowen episode?!

[@Markyd123]

You sure will be!

[@AndyGoodgreen]

Motor city...my 2nd favorite tag team under L O D and extremely under appreciated

[@TWProWrestling]

Kevin Thorn in ECW

[@DoffysGlasses]

I never really watched anything from the Bucks, but now I see what people meant by all acrobatics, no wrestling. Very flashy, but it all comes across as highly ineffective, since they throw everything at their opponents and they keep kicking out of increasingly flashier stuff. It's like kicking someone in the face with a 1080 corkscrew super dropkick, only to bounce off of the guy you kicked.

[@bhumibolrushing7830]

I'm an aew guy and my biggest problem with the young bucks is the selling and the false finishes. Like they'll kick out of so many finishers that the actual finish isn't as impactful

[@Muss67]

As a fellow AEW guy thats not a bucks problem, thats a company wide problem.

[@jamesbennett9262]

Motor city machine guns were so good

[@mgunter]

The style isn't the problem. The problem is that's 90% of what's out there.

[@gogomarioloshi]

Imo it's how it's executed. This fast pace, high flying, spontaneous style can work.

[@mrcold8966]

Yeah the guys like the bucks, Rey fenix etc need to go watch the cruiserweights in WCW to see how it's done correctly. They looked like they were fighting each other where as as today it's more like some weird interpretive art exhibition

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

That's not true, though.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

I think both moderation and variety is a lost art that the indies forgot about, which in turn the larger promotions embraced. If you want to have a more technical match or a guy just beating on dudes with power moves, people have now been conditioned to call it "boring". Variety is the spice of life; WCW died cause they refused to adapt, what we're dealing with today is just wrestling becoming so homogenized it might as well be bottled and sold at Walmart given how mass produced it is.

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 You don't watch enough wrestling to make your claim. Not every indie promotion has that style that you dislike, especially if the wrestlers in the matches are foreigners or simply have a different style. WCW died because of poor business decisions, including the creation of Thunder (which Eric Bischoff was against), burying the cruiserweight division despite being very over, and not building up new stars until around the year 2000.

[@pocketboi8801]

I honestly understand why people are split both the old style of wrestling is still amazing to watch even now like Paul Wight and even Brock Lesnar and then there’s the high flyers like Sammy Guevara and Ricochet. Both styles are always amazing but that’s why you have to appreciate the middle ground

[@years-ti7xl]

and then you have Keith Lee who can do both, a powerhouse and the agility of a cruiserweight.

[@ThEmDl-ei6vl]

Russo seen these little twerps for what they were 1 trick ponies them and omega will be what causes russo and cornette to create the greatest wrestling promotion evaaaaaa

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Nope

[@RollysonMason]

Cornette hates Russo more than he hates Th Young Bucks.

[@RollysonMason]

@JeffChad and TNA got worse both times.

[@connorblazerod9678]

tl;dr: I like the 80-00s style of wrestling more than the modern work rate based wrestling I grew up watching Ruthless Aggression and PG era wrestling so I got the chance to see the blend from the more traditional big guys, big personalities, and big promos to a more work rate focused wrestling. I’m more partial to the former for these reasons: I think that style of wrestling appealed more to the casual fans and drew in people that would never consider watching wrestling. Now and even back then, kayfabe was essentially dead and most people knew that what happens in the ring is rehearsed/ not full contact. By steering the focus away from what happens to the ring and more on the personalities of the performers more people are intrigued. With the more modern work rate based wrestling, it only really appeals to hardcore fans.

[@Markyd123]

Put it better than I could of!

[@VinnieGer]

I greatly appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning. The hawk must be tough but fair.

[@petebagwell6666]

AEW fans: I WANT MORE HARD HITTING WRESTLING WITH MORE VIOLENCE Also AEW fans: THAT CHAIR SHOT WAS TOO HARD!!!! STOP IT NOW!!!!

[@dennett316]

So, two different sets of people say contrasting things, and that proves....what?

[@petebagwell6666]

@@dennett316 they were the same fans, I dont think you got the joke. Something was said, not good.....

[@singerdude1992]

Gen Me almost had a character when they were paired with Tara. The three of them proposed a grouping to management, and they had a touch of screen time together. Unfortunately, inconsistent booking and management that couldn't give a damn.

[@antfbi]

I stated calling the bucks pie face and balding! Thank you cornette

[@jumge9706]

The hawk can no sell a whole super kick party

[@lockecole3726]

Did they really beep out "midgets?" Sheesh.

[@greatestofalltime1607]

I need to see Lars Sullivan from wwe in ring of the hawk

[@smhgaming3259]

To many matches cause NXT counts has to have under 30 matches which Lar has way more

[@zakrowe1301]

@@smhgaming3259 nxt shouldnt count

[@JamesKlemm87]

@@zakrowe1301 But then Lars has about 4 matches of squashing luchadors before everyone finding out he's a racist POS.

[@Footballtalkcentre]

Brian pillman wwf

[@jakedurnin566]

I think jeff's stoner friend met this guy in an xbox live lobby....and then showed up at his house as he new stepfather.

[@brandonmorgan8975]

They had more moves in TNA then they do now 😂😂

[@jugghead82]

It would be Awesome to see the bucks vs MCMG in AEW.

[@stansmith2188]

I love the intro you made about the bucks style of wrestling and I think it’s true. I am 5’7 and small so I personally love to see that quick pace high flying wrestling and have loved it since I started watching with the first guys I remember loving was evan Bourne and Rey mysterio. So for me I like wrestling more now than when I was in elementary school. But I do agree, if you love those bigger guys with personality like MJF, Moose, Scott Steiner and FTR there isn’t as much as there should be.

[@Markyd123]

Most sensible comment I’ve read all day thank you!

[@viccrown8188]

It’s funny to watch your video about the young bucks because I remember when I first seen them just like you did, in TNA and thinking “these guys kick ass, I want to see more of them” and then they were gone.

[@onuoraawesome7777]

I've got a new grading scale for ya: A+: LUV IT! A: Excellent! A-: Great! B+: Very Good B: Good B-: Decent C+: Above Average C: Average C-: Below Average D+: Mediocre D: Bad D-: Very Bad F+: Terrible! F: Horrible! F-: Abominable! S: SHUV IT!

[@Markyd123]

Problem with that is The Hawk sees the world in black or white. Hence the saying shuv it or love it 😂

[@onuoraawesome7777]

@@Markyd123 lol!

[@jasonseymour3395]

The Caribbean in me loves the use of Dutty Wine as background music

[@ellieellieonthewall9189]

I like how it ends with Tara kicking the camera that’s such a TNA ending 😂

[@Bonnysnipes]

Honestly thought the divide wasn’t with big guys and girls Maybe it’s just me but we miss wrestling like Benoit, Eddie, Michaels in the early 90s, not so much power moves over high flying but more like the thought process. Some realism is missing. Obviously in wrestling things don’t make sense but the whole big spot kick out big spot. Repeat thing over time it makes nothing impressive for me anymore. Perfect example is Daniel Bryan U can turn on the tv and be like oh no this shit is boring but if u just watch by the end you are really into Bryan’s match....he gets it. Even when he switched his style the way he can make a rest hold look.

[@mortcondron]

I love he is just the friend now

[@AHeroAlmost]

My problem with the Bucks is that they do a lot of things that don’t make sense .. Sometimes they should be going for a pin but have to go for a dive or they could do a move 5 times and 5 kick outs then a move that doesn’t look as good gets the pin ...

[@lamelame1779]

I think modern wrestling is already shifting from just high flyers though. AEW has a lot of big guys. Variety is more important to me in wrestling than one single style. NJPW and AJPW do not focus on high flying either despite westerners assuming that. Current Impact has a variety of shapes and sizes. Look at MOOSE. Dudes a beast.

[@Markyd123]

Moose is the only muscle guy there isn’t he...

[@lamelame1779]

@@Markyd123 Hernandez, XXXL, James Storm, Jake Something, Moose, Shera,

[@Markyd123]

@@lamelame1779 they are all in terrible shape apart from shera. And 6 foot isn’t big. That’s my point. Moose is the only guy.

[@donaldsimmons4526]

You know, “the loud minority” who don’t like buck style of wrestling isn’t the minority at all. Look at AEW ratings vs the ratings of classic wrestling and you’ll see where the majority really lies. Granted most don’t openly complain, they just don’t watch anymore.

[@Luna-dh1xd]

NWA might be a "modern" promotion you might like MarkyD.

[@Markyd123]

Someone has asked for a video on it so I’m going to find that out soon! But hopefully!

[@LibraSnakeLibraSnake1018]

If you are doing tag teams one more recent team that are a sort of what if scenario are the AOP in the WWE. Two guys who were a big deal in NXT and came up to Raw looking like they would be a big deal but ultimately doomed by poorly timed injuries and inconsistent booking to an underwhelming run. They had 28 matches on Raw and PPV over their run. I remember their matches and storylines being sort of hit or miss so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts, especially since you are not a WWE fan and would be coming it with little prior knowledge. Edit: Oh, and they were in an awful storyline where Drake Maverick (Rockstar Spud) was their manager and would piss himself all the time so if you want to watch some awful toilet humor from one of the most creatively awful periods in WWE history you will love watching some AOP matches.

[@marcespinoza6068]

When it comes to their overuse of the super kick, I think it ends up making them look weak as hell. They hit it multiple times during a match and never get the pinfall, where as HBK hits it once and gets the win. This is the difference between a 'super kick' and 'sweet chin music'.

[@greenghost2212]

Duh the super kick was Shawn's finisher 😂.

[@ozzy6994]

It’s not just them though. Damn near every wrestler in AEW has a variation of the super kick or a powerful finisher is done and they always kick out. I stopped watching when I realized it’s not what they promised the company to be

[@conanobrien1924]

@Marc Espinoza Actually, they won the AEW Tag Titles with a Superkick

[@marcespinoza6068]

@@conanobrien1924 Was it the only one used in the match?

[@MahDryBread]

Man, I remember going crazy for that first match when I was like 16!

[@Muss67]

As a die hard Young Bucks fan C is exactly what this run should have gotten, even the bucks themselves dont have much positive to say about their tna run.

[@JesseGMan7]

I enjoyed watching them as gen me when I was a young teen. But they just didn’t do much with them

[@rancidcrawfish]

They're even less interesting in AEW