What The Culture Feeling... w/

[@ScruFaceJeanOfficial]

I need to get on here lol

[@RapLatte]

DM is coming!

[@AndrewLawton16]

​@@RapLatte hype

[@RooBooLouOochie]

✊🏽✌🏽

[@Endrick-real]

Bro checked out your euphoria remix that ish went HARD

[@kmarcol1]

Yes you do

[@DecaturQue]

Had no idea what a Video Essay was before FD and now he’s the King of them in my mind.

[@samirasoto96]

As an long-time, avid lover of the genre, for the sociological topics he discusses, the crown is squarely on his head. Even when his observations are off-base, he is thoughtful enough to question why and draw meaningful lessons from them. He deserves the recognition he gets, and more.

[@Adri_Unsung]

Him, lil bill, and Khadijah Mbowe are next level. They make me think deeper about so much in life

[@Nhevreno]

This is like some alternate reality where T Pain Questlove and Tyler the creator start a podcast

[@Ingydar_]

LMAOOO

[@JRob1125]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@romeod7549]

@@Nhevreno Nahhhhhh

[@malikradford]

lmaooo

[@malikradford]

@@romeod7549 I think they're going off of physical appearance lol

[@EANDM71]

@Rap Latte Why are people rewriting history to support Drake? I need ya’ll to clear this up, Toure. The bottom line is that Drake attacked Kendrick’s wife/partner on “Push Ups”. He was the one to go low. Then, on “Taylor Made,” he goaded Kendrick into rapping about him liking young girls. Guess I’m tired of all the caping, defending and protecting Drake by the entire industry, knowing that he is the biggest bully. As a Black woman, it pisses me off to no end. Drake has a history of misogyny, specifically when it comes to Black women: he attacked Serena, Rihanna, Megan Thee Stallion-women who did nothing to him. He attacked the wives and girlfriends of his colleagues in the rap industry and yet, no one but Pusha T and Kendrick has held him accountable for it. I’m tired of this mess. LISTEN TO BLACK WOMEN!!!!

[@bigbizgrizzz777]

This!!! You articulated this perfectly bc I’ve been asking the same question for literal years now. All I can get are people constantly capping and coping for Drake and his ill behavior

[@EANDM71]

@@bigbizgrizzz777I absolutely adore Kendrick Lamar and always have, but if I’m being fair, both men used women and children to hit against each other. And if Drake were smart, he could have easily called Kendrick out for being a hypocrite, seeing as though Kendrick has surrounded himself with, and collaborated with, questionable men: Kodak Black, Dr. Dre, even Metro Boomin who was recently accused of not so good things regarding women. The entire Hip-Hop industry must confront this because so many of us women are tired of this crap. To add insult to injury, all this crying and whining about women in Hip-Hop but the males aren’t willing to change. Why should female rappers police themselves for their image when the males aren’t willing to do the same? And really, I do appreciate Kendrick standing up for Black women in “Wacced Out Murals,” but look at the discourse that ensued-the outrage was more about Schultz’s attack on Kendrick rather than holding people like Charlamagne and the decades and decades long attacks on Black women but Black males in Hip-Hop, comedy, movies and other forms of artistic expression. This isn’t anything new. Black women have attacked, ridiculed, humiliated, degraded Black women in art for many, many decades and all we do as women is accept it. Why? Because Black men need to express themselves. That’s the excuse we always accept. It’s what we Black women convince ourselves to keep from crying. But what about the danger it puts us in. Black men, especially, need to think about this more: if we are to except the premise that Black women are violent, aggressive and dangerous (the same stereotypes leveled at Black men, to be sure), then what does that mean when Black women confront danger? Does that mean we don’t deserve protection? We don’t deserve defending? This is something to think about. Thanks in advance for putting up with my rant. ❤❤

[@EANDM71]

@@bigbizgrizzz777 My long response was deleted. Not sure why but it was.

[@tlee508]

Boom 💥

[@rahbeeuh]

Towards the beginning he went after Ray J instead of Lil Kim. He said snide remarks but he didn't go at her bc he would've been shutdown. I wish more people would listen to us Black women

[@bigbizgrizzz777]

Idc what nobody says,commentary like this is what matters in hiphop. Love seeing my favorite creators link up

[@marylander3798]

Its funny because during the rise of Puffy I personally felt very strongly that his entire brand and aesthetic destroyed hip hop. Saying it back then made me sound very lame but I think FD drawing the line from Puffy to Drake makes me feel vindicated. I was debating my friend's in college in 2002-04 about how Puffy might have destroyed hip hop.

[@rahbeeuh]

Before Puff, there was Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer who commercialized hip-hop and then came Puff with Bad Boy and Jay Z. Definitely a direct line to Lawbrey and his antics. Kanye West is also responsible for Lawbrey's "melodic rap?" with his album 808s and Heartbreak. Without that album there'd be no Kid Cudi, Lupe Fiasco, J. Cole (kinda), Big Sean (kinda), Travis Scott, XXXTentacion, Juice Wrld, and Mac Miller to some extent. Being against Puff was frowned upon and I got used to the frowns bc nothing was changing my stance on him. It's becoming the norm these days but we were ahead of all of them 😅

[@marylander3798]

​@rahbeeuh I'm not talking about commercial appeal. To me the downfall was the materialism at that level and the shallowness and his lack of actual talent.

[@tamcole1203]

Exactly this. I always felt Puff ushered in a layer of shallowness and debauchery (which I know is a weird thing to say considering the totality of lyrical content then but it's the word that comes to mind) that I didn't feel existed before him. I can't really explain it. And trying to explain it then got me nowhere because all anyone could say was "we gotta stop hating on each other" or whatever.

[@marylander3798]

​@tamcole1203 exactly, I feel like it was an element of other artists discographies but the materialism wasn't everything. For Puffy it was his entire brand and he never had a message that went beyond that, plus he really didnt respect artistry becausehe never had any talent. He sort of took the standards down and moved the focus completely toward money, luxury and partying.

[@The1fromBK]

@tamcole1203 what you're saying is so real. Criticism of Puffy was interpreted as envy for his material and cultural success, and/ or you were being a "crab in the barrel".

[@telcomachine2334]

Captain Planet level heroism in this lineup

[@officialgoogleyoutube]

"Playboi Carti is Mondrian" was not something that I thought I'd ever hear, but it's kinda brilliant.

[@JStack]

It’s giving Carti a lot of undue credit and forethought imo. He’s not deconstructing shi, he’s making noise rap and the most game changing parts of his music that are carrying to the next wave is the production style. Kinda furthered by the fact his best work was Die Lit, with WLR having 100+ people on the album and he’s not even a song writer on some.

[@josefonseca6144]

Hip hop minimalism is a fascinating theory here. Picasso and Hemingway were of the same era and pioneered the aesthetic. Very interesting

[@honestytheory7529]

Hey, it's @FDSignifire 👋🏾🤓 Watched the Nebula cut overnight. Excellent as usual. It's so easy to forget rap wasn't always the mainstream darling it is today. Always enjoy your insight🙌🏾

[@SeanLKearns]

This is one of the deepest conversations about music ive ever heard.

[@thesustenancecompany]

I watched The Latest Instalment From FD about Diddy On Nebula and it’s like non I have seen this far and trust me I have watched many 😂 This mini documentary takes you on a nostalgic journey through this thing we love named “the culture” an absolute must watch ‼️

[@RblastonYT]

@@thesustenancecompany I cannot wait to see the community reaction

[@drewd6426]

It feels like from a media perspective the hip hop magaizine era is back. These are the conversations! To borrow a bar, its all happening!

[@sephiroth952]

The part where you said that rap got simpler off the back of more complicated music reminds me of what happened in metal/rock. Grunge was a direct response to the virtuosity of 80's metal and glam. While there was still technical metal getting made, grunge was waaaaay more popular and essentially put metal back into the underground.

[@generallyuninterested4956]

But we got rage against the machine and styles like these that melded art and music styles that kind of progressed culture in a very impactful way.

[@Cdr2002]

27:01 thank you for explaining this perfectly. It’s not just dropping somebody as a political statement, but sometimes your perception is too poisoned and it’s not tolerable anymore

[@Fizzdragons]

excited for this one!

[@bonsmasemo1738]

That Pablo Picasso/ Piet Mondrian parallel is 👌

[@Nee-vk7zz]

When you were talking about how a lot of Newhead rap is like Punk Rock, this is so true ESPECIALLY when rappers like Playboicarti and Lil Uzi Vert were hugely influenced by Punk Rock in their music. Even before Lil Uzi dropped the Pink Tape last year he was heavily influenced by Punk Rock aesthetics and often made references to it in his symbolism and his music videos, with the same for Carti. They literally called themselves “Rockstars” from the beginning lmao.

[@Dawn23244]

What a great analogy with painters and hip hop artists.

[@JD1913]

“The Fluteprint 2” was an exquisite bar. A million fire emojis, sir.

[@machiel5888]

F.D. is the MAN! Huge guest. Love F.D. and I am interested that he avoids the human trafficking and sex trafficking allegations in this beef. After the Not Like Us video, 6:16 in LA, and Meet the Grahams, I don't see how he keeps calling them far-fetched when Kendrick is clearly actively fueling speculation about Drake's alleged sex trafficking via OVO. We're not the ones saying that the feds will raid Drake any moment. Kendrick is the one who said that. He said it's only a matter of time before Drake gets raided, and the truth is about to get loud. I find it hard to deny what Kendrick is implying across all of these tracks.

[@suffer1055]

i don’t think it’s that direct, i don’t think kendrick was actually implying that in the near future he’s getting raided

[@cosmo.g1543]

Yeah, and mentioning the “leaked videos of themselves” line section. I mean who else was that relevant to atm?

[@machiel5888]

@@suffer1055 "Your embassy about to get raided too, It's only a matter of time" is not an implication, it's a statement. Drake's house is known as the Embassy.

[@darren223]

When you're talking about 'Life of the Party' by Kanye and Andre 3000, that version was leaked by Drake. The final version on streaming doesn't include those Drake disses and mentions of Pete Davidson.

[@blubastud]

For some reason the algorithm hid this video deep. It popped up on my page and disappeared and I had to damn near remember it by name for the search to find it.

[@TheBookofBeasts]

25:27 This part is hard for me. Their is a philosopher I studied for a long time and then I found out that when his work was translated into English his explicit racist views were omitted. There are many people that study him that want to just ignore those parts and they think it can be compartmentalized. But if one really takes it in, reads the omitted parts, and steps back far enough to see the overarching philosophy he had created the racism is everywhere within the work…. Or I should say as a white person much younger than I am now it was hidden to me and I needed the more explicit writings to allow me to see it with some clarity. As a queer person my rights are tenuous in America. I don’t know if we can ignore, compartmentalize and still consume. It feels very dangerous.

[@miguelfmyers]

Love that the algorithm showed me your KZbin. Easily became my fav yt rn… sent your videos to my fellow black brothers. Thank you for real.

[@goreyfantod5213]

19:40 I think that's a fantastic analysis & description. Thing is, it's also an excellent description of what Muzak is: simplified versions of already popular songs, stripped of context & meaning then smoothed out aurally & lyrically in order to please as wide a set of demographics as possible in service of facilitating consumerism. aka, mall music, just like Yasiin Bey said. The problem I have with that is twofold: 1. The only inherent value in that music is monetary, from creation through consumption. While I agree that there's definitely a space for music that is intended simply to be entertaining or to provide a soundscape for other activities, I'll never agree that it should be its only function other than generating revenue. 2. The music industry behaves like all other entities within capitalism; it seeks to destroy competition & consume resources in order to generate revenue. The problem is that's anathema to culture, creativity & specifically, Hip Hop. We've seen what happens when Hip Hop is merged into the system rather than being oppositional: we get Puffy and Drake (I won't even get into the cultural appropriation side). For the last app. fifty years, Hip Hop has been the closest thing we have to modern folk music & by that I don't mean capital "F" Folk the genre, or Americana, I'm talking about the original meaning & all its sociopolitical implications: music of, by and for working class people. While it's possible that the money changers were allowed to linger too long & Hip Hop will evolve into something else, I have zero doubt that Black folks will create new music that entertains while seeking to inform, enlighten & empower the oppressed.

[@jenisbrowning3447]

Please more of this collab, I'm loving the insight and new areas to look into.

[@PopularNobody]

The fact BAD BOY COPYRIGHT CLAIMED HIM says a lot

[@ldn_vin]

Em and Drake ushered in the cult of personality right when Em stopped having anything to say, from the cultural angle, the cult of personality. Soulja's success shocked the industry from the commerce angle. They saw what he did and vowed never to miss out on a viral artist again, welcome to the 360 deal. Drake met at the apex of both angles and that's a larger conversation.

[@MoebiusChungus]

Man i love this podcast. I cant wait for the next part.

[@RapLatte]

Tomorrow!

[@CTEagleCeltic]

Daaaaang @FDsignifier making big strides… my guy in the green’s “implicit” argument is spot on… you’re getting the best essence of hip hop and rap… I always compared mumble rap to grunge, as well… it’s literally Nirvana teen spirit-like mumbling.

[@s4ds4d]

17:57 As an older Gen Z, I can say you got this analysis 100% correct bro.. I was in 10th grade when I heard Young Thug's verse on Mamacita, there was an entire bar where the only words he said was "oou, eh, oh" (basically just adlips) and I still remember to this day how impressed I was at the artistic confidence he must've had to know thats all that the verse needed at that moment, it also sounded SO GOOD 😂 that's when I felt like the new wave of rap/trap starting 2015-2016 was more avant-garde and the "old-heads" legitimately didn't get it (that's what makes the abstract/modern art comparison perfect)

[@romeod7549]

@@s4ds4d ish was trash …. Stop it… avant-garde 🤣🤣🤣

[@alwaysm.i.a10]

​@romeod7549 I thought it was just me. Who started this echo of Yung Thug being innovative for goo-goo-ga-ga-ing over tracks? Furthermore Wayne's 3rd quarter of his career actually started that sound. Yung Thug and Future are his babies.

[@ariedmck]

Love when my faves collab, especially with FD Signifire.

[@nikolaseibich6297]

I am not particularly a fan of Rap (metal and rock are my go tos) but I am 23 minutes in and love the conversation. It is wonderful to see people that love a subject talk so passionately about it.

[@OfteninLondon]

This is incredible! I cannot wait for the video, I cannot wait!

[@LA-ji5oj]

I loved those three hours and a half. Went through it twice. It was a great listen

[@SuperMiIk]

I love unc and im not looking for sylvia plath levels of feminist theory from a cis man but i think theres a lot he gets wrong about things concerning women

[@baddapplesauce]

I love FD. His analysis is always on point.

[@geminiaxelrod4592]

Yes!!! Been waiting!

[@selfxcare]

Ughhhh loooove this episode!! 🤎🤎

[@wab6556]

Need that Part 2 like this week! Good conversation!

[@MrMattCow]

“Life of the Party” with Andre 3000 made it worth listening to the Donda album lol

[@CH-hp6ow]

I'm nowhere near as good at formulating and communicating my thoughts as well as these men so I don't even have the words to properly express how much I love this conversation

[@ishitvvats2044]

important episode

[@harveyhotdog5085]

It started with lil wayne. He birth all these lean babies.

[@og_mante5138]

UGK

[@harveyhotdog5085]

@@og_mante5138 I know Huston, UGk and Screw started it but it didn’t blow up until lil wayne started really rapping about it. He was super popular and those kids looked up to him.

[@fangal12]

​@@og_mante5138I first heard about it from Three 6 Mafia when I was in middle school

[@kevinfitts9252]

Sugar Hill Gang

[@Hillwood365]

It started with Houston

[@modernchow]

mondrian metaphor is great take, beautiful

[@AvenleaHarris]

Yesss I just finished his video essay. It was great!

[@demofya]

Here is the thing…. The artist views are part of the artist. It is used to conceptualize the art from their perspective. If an artist has an ideology he/she subscribes to, then that makes up their anatomy an translates to their works (past and present), With that, it is IMPOSSIBLE to separate the artist from the artistry. Hence why I am unable to listen (with actual a mind of intrigued) to “rappers” with ghost written lyrics. Because there is no authenticity to their words or interpolations.

[@saphire2214]

Great convo. Subscribed!

[@felipecagorago]

20:00 I've been saying this for years now, the painting analogy is just fucking genius, great convo

[@gold3nhorus]

Honorable mention for Curren$y. The most consistent. Still killing it.

[@joeyschmitt2410]

That political implication point reminded me of a convo with a friend years ago where I called outkast conscious and he replied "theyre not conscious, they're just smart". I feel like there's still a certain flavor of consciousness in talking about less explicitly political topics with depth and purpose and then that feels like something carries through mainstream artists past the 90s, I hear that in plenty of 2010s Kanye, early chance, pro era, even asap mob sometimes. And Of course is Kendrick has remained a big deal since good kid.

[@marjoe32]

Frivolous!! Thats the word. thank you ❤❤❤❤

[@NotionsofKnitting]

the leftist cooks did a great video about the art we consume and its connection to the artists, our feelings and their actions. i found it really useful to put my own connection to art and how i feel about the artist that created it in some context that made more sense. would recommend to anyone who is thinking about the section discussing kanye.

[@ayceeonethirty]

Let's goo, I watch all of big homies content. Always gotta hear the wisdom being dropped so I love seeing him here. You had to Google who Craig mack is is crazy tho

[@JStack]

15:20 I worked for a major radio station around the time it as purchased by a concert service and on Peggy was on the list of “DO NOT PLAY” artists lmao the industry will make sure to do everything they can to spite Peggy and Danny, and they still ranked #4 in album sales

[@goldengirlll]

yayy my faves together 🥰

[@Gnb496]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾love this!!!

[@Texastrue43]

This man did not say he can’t listen to Carti then praise Mario Judah 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jayohen13]

Green is spitting here with the Mondrian comparison. I would add that the abstraction of lower order details by new generations acts as a fresh layer of creative constraints and yields more artistic decision making at higher orders of taste that are only possible within the rich genre context.

[@gytrplr]

This was great to listen too. Thanks for making Monday better

[@BigWoodzCBCL]

This episode made me a subscriber!

[@Dee-lp7lo]

Always can use more FD content 🙏💯

[@NOK42]

Yo yall are so dope, this has so quickly become one of my favorite channels. I peeped how yall did it too, slid in like you've always been here 😂or the platform has just been waiting for your arrival. Anyway, awesome content, keep it up!!

[@RapLatte]

Appreciate that

[@elijahclaude3413]

This was a great convo! I do feel like that part about separating the 'art' from the 'artist' though is some bullshit. I know that's an old quandary, but I do feel very strongly that you can't really do that, for the simple fact that you enjoy the art in the first place! If we really could just separate the two, then we wouldnt have a problem with AI coming in making a bunch of bullshit. But we do care, because we largely value and enjoy art because of what it says about the artists and/or the artists perspective on life. To pretend that this doesn't matter is to say that you only see art as some sort of stale product divorced from human input, imo. And though I do agree that judging people based on their consumption habits is silly, I also still think that it DOES very much matter. No, it does not necessarily make you a 'better person' or whatever if you like this art vs that... but I do think it says something about you, it influences you, and it very much does in some way support the artists/creators that made that thing that you enjoy. I think we also need to break out of this binary/strawman-ish thinking of 'oh nobody is perfect so it doesnt matter what the artist did if the art is good' because that is just lazy logic that doesnt even speak to they very same things yall mentioned in this video and throughout FDs video on Diddy. The very fact that FD mentioned how Diddy was a terrible influence on hiphop shows that it 100% matters who is making the art/products you enjoy. Because the ideas, predilections, and desires of those people are indeed carried out in their creations. There's a difference between listening to someone who probably made the same mistakes everybody did, vs consuming the creations of someone who is a serial abuser or worse. But yeah, lot of ideas to consider in this talk! Excited for Part 2!!

[@matthewsalmon431]

Sounds like u need to be on the next one. I started to lose interest at the painter analogy

[@milesblue638]

Everything is political. Politics shapes the circumstances we live in, the options available to us, the choices we make, and the outcomes we arrive at. It's cool to like what you like, however, you are making a political statement, whether you intend to or not.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa11]

Love this!

[@beloved803]

I thoroughly enjoyed this!

[@janalucke9739]

Why was fd's video on Diddy just taken down?!

[@nix3001]

Wondering the same

[@bdott1538]

@@nix3001BadBoy marked it for copyright infringement.

[@TheCinnyBun]

y'all are killing it

[@jessicawalton3497]

Watched it on Nebula when it dropped!

[@earthstroyer]

bro on the right lookin like Luigi

[@Rryiac]

I'm ngl I have ptsd from kanye like what if Kendrick shocke us with something like that

[@mcollazo215]

Excellent convo. Funny how the thought is hip hop artists like Carti is taking pieces of all the rap history and simplifying lyrics and the vibes... and in lots of ways, that was the whole thing about sampling - taking just a snippet of a beat or the best part of the record then looping it. History repeats.

[@RapLatte]

✅

[@pursefirst22]

Donda was 🔥. And that Kanye verse was amazing.

[@pursefirst22]

Just like puff told Chris we gonna win Big. Put my whole family on look at what my Kim did.

[@AmateurAnalyst013]

So uh..... When we getting this part 2?

[@dumpsta-divrr365]

Once upon a time in hollywood is legit one of hos best movies, what??

[@ru8yna]

Its out now its bigger then diddy.😊😊😊❤😊

[@royalconquest742]

The Hateful 8 is the shyt!!! Funny ass movie!!!

[@mktgsifu]

Gen X here. I don't like majority of NBA Youngboy's music, but I get it.

[@user-zu9cw2xq7f]

Yay! FD! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@soljah2540]

Fd really doing rollouts for a video lmao massive

[@mktgsifu]

Where are the political emcees like Immortal Technique, Dead Prez, or Public Enemy at?

[@BLACKdeKINDA]

Fluteprint is S-tier 😂

[@lyssa71421]

Im sorry FD but I got to say Drake was not the beginning of the end for not having a message. It honestly started around the whole crunk/snap era for me when I started to see a shift. I think Drake actually came in around the time we were getting OUT of that era & paying attention to lyrics again. Thats why Drake, Cole & Kendrick shined during that shift. The Big 3 started that shift from just dancing in hip hop

[@hangeswife2468]

If you watch his video, he pretty much says that

[@alexmcfarlane9792]

Notifications turned on!

[@iaintjesus9399]

The Diddy video was fire af tho. FD drop albums, not mixtapes.... worth the wait, but i still wanna fight him for the decrease in posts

[@generallyuninterested4956]

I challenge anyone to throw on the remix to ignition and not feel a bit of joy. Not for the artist, but for the memories of where you were every time you heard it bump in your civic, the club, or the house party, who you were with and the time machine it provides. I know the creation is of the artist... But at what point does it belong to US having intricate effects in our individual experiences? Do we really have to give it back, throw it away, forget it?

[@ShirleyTimple]

Every time you bump that, they get the endorsement they need to keep doing what they do and saying what they say. You give them a pass and pay them for it. It sucks cutting off a favorite because they're a legitimately terrible person, but not doing so is supporting them being terrible.

[@generallyuninterested4956]

@ShirleyTimple I disagree. Maybe if you still support them after it's known. But if we lived our lives to a soundtrack, 20 years ago and didn't know anything about their crimes, or they weren't committed yet ...then that belongs to us.

[@northernstepperz]

the discussion of separating art vs artist is interesting. I think separating art from artist only benefits toxic people, artists or fans. We need to understand how bad actors and toxic personalities use things like "collaborative" effort to mask themselves. I think that's kinda what the Puffy video talks about how Puffy used other black people's labour to enrich themselves. It may suck having to change yourself, but I firmly believe in energy and magic in a base sense. If you give your listening energy to Kanye but can recognize how he is bad, you'll only recognize him as bad as far as how much you want to listen to him will go. It's totally okay to mourn the loss of something (say, Kanye fandom) but like to me that's also a fork in the road, of like do you wanna be able to say "Kanye is bad," or "Kanye is bad, but..."

[@hova092]

FD is the GOAT. He's the My Name Is Byf for being a modern black person.

[@MistaNimbus]

Green going hard in the paint

[@GoldnDusty]

I think the talk about rappers not being able to keep up past 40 is slightly undermined by the love for an Andre verse from 3 years ago, considering Andre is in his mid-forties. He might even be a good case study: he's not interested in the genre as it exists anymore. He's doing his own thing, and he's killing it - New Blue Sun was gorgeous, and it's a bit of a travesty that the label won't release him. I don't think it's age, I think it's maturity. The correlation is that it takes a lot of people a while to realise important things about themselves, including what they value.

[@RblastonYT]

When is part 2?

[@almighty_pusha]

The Fluteprint 2 is the funniest shit I've heard a minute

[@chrishipop5]

I think for those that are into sounds and beats than overt lyricism appreciate a yeat and Carti. I think the same folks would probably enjoy early Stones Throw records, like Dilla, Flying Lotus and Aphex Twin

[@kevinfitts9252]

In my experience, people that claim to be into the beats more than the lyrics usually have no idea who made the beat.

[@kevinfitts9252]

And those beats would sound way better with good lyrics.

[@Insouciant_Lyfê]

The problem (not really a problem) is that you can have great experimental beats and exquisite lyrics. Look at all of Kendrick's albums, for example. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.

[@TheRealtr3]

Mos Def was definitely main stream

[@emilgullberg541]

I'm an old teen punk rocker who got into rap by way of hearing Body Count, and I think the comparison between punk and trap is fitting. But there is a lesson to be learned from punk as well I think hasnt dropped yet: nihilism, drugs and casual sex might be all that's left in a "No Future" world, but it ultimately leads to a crescendo of someone like Kurt Cobain. Depressing shit tbh. BTW is there like an equivalent to say The Clash in Trap music, someone evolving into eclecticism as they grow?

[@Loch1210]

Damn FD winning

[@yasielromero8236]

When is part 2 coming out

[@KaylaMarieQ]

The beginning of carnival reminds me of the beginning of schindlers list