‪@FDSignifire‬

[@jrjr3645]

I got respect for Eminem but let's not act like he didn't wear a do-rag for 10 years

[@nahhhbruhhh]

Lmaoooo right!

[@leonardowatch6997]

and said the n-word

[@MisterZimbabwe]

Well, he did grow up in the projects.

[@jrjr3645]

@@MisterZimbabwe I'm not questioning his background because I know he did grow up rougher than most rappers.

[@joelman1989]

Lmao I forgot about that. To be fair everyone was wearing them back then. And I’ve never really been an em fan. Though predictably his forgot about dre is the first hip hop song I memorized.

[@malakai_adam]

Never get tired of hearing FDs takes

[@MsAnneThrope1]

SAME

[@CREDIONSTORES]

Well we on the same page

[@tamtam.59]

seriously! let him cook!!

[@jeremyc4786]

Ayy, F.D., thanks for introducing to a couple of cool people. After listening to the 2 episodes with him and the one from the dissecting guy, im def staying around for awhile

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

Yea higher level of processing So many surface level mouth pieces online

[@surr3al1s]

El P and Aesop Rock are two legendary MCs of any ethnicity but there is a short list.

[@thisisisabella3634]

Marlon Craft is the best white rapper over the past 8 years without question. Every hiphop head gets pissed at themselves for sleeping on him. He's from hells kitchen new York and recently got method man on a track with him just by his word of mouth marketing. Meth spit his best verse in 15 years on that joint by the way. Come back and tell me I ain't lying.

[@RUBBERGUMSOUL]

My brother Apathy and a few others.

[@coltsfan354]

Eyedea is up there, too.

[@PheeblePhilosopher]

Last week, I created an Aesop playlist after not listening to him for nearly a decade 💯.

[@RUBBERGUMSOUL]

@@coltsfan354 RIP

[@terrootti]

I'll never forget having this conversation I had with a eminem fan. As you can imagine his argument was that Eminem is the undisputed G.O.A.T. of Hip-hop. I wasn't even disputing his point, just trying to expand his horizon... at one point in the conversation I mentioned Snoop. His answer almost made me have an aneurysm: "Snoop Dogg?! Young wild and Free snoop dogg?! Why are we talking about him?".... How can you have a respectable hip-hop opinion when you only referrence to Snoop Dogg is "Young wild and Free"?

[@zachariah7114]

"Young wild and Free Snoop Dogg?" - well, maybe put that on Snoop going more pop in the mainstream than Ice Cube with his kids movies. Bro did a cooking show with Martha Stewart. A long way from Long Beach.

[@gooddaylozano]

@@zachariah7114absolutely wild take. Your argument is basically “ Cooking show with Martha Stewart Snoop Dogg?”

[@PrimeGalvatron]

Most Eminem fans aren't hip hop fans. They're Eminem fans and he's probably the only rapper they actually listen to. An Em fan tried to tell me he started fast rapping and internal rhyme schemes. Alot of Em fans don't even listen to him, they listen to him rhyme words and don't pay attention to what he says.

[@terrootti]

@zachariah7114 if you're a fan of hip hop you hear Snoop you should think of "Doggystyle" not Martha Stewart.

[@PopularNobody]

FD Signifier covering battle rap will be my Magnum opus

[@callmearies7951]

Now I want this😭😭😭

[@CREDIONSTORES]

Yes yes and don't make crave it now 🙂

[@rangebrother]

When the world needed Lauren Hill the most... she vanished!

[@RapLatte]

👀

[@bolanleadana8668]

Avatar Lauryn?

[@RblastonYT]

Bro FD hit T with the “DAMN”

[@Istaygroovy]

That had me folded

[@YetiCoolBrother]

Fellow Elder Millenial -- I will never forget the day my older brother pull up to the crib, after getting new speakers & bass in his '98 Honda, getting in the car and him playing "Hard Knock Life" by Jay-Z. I was like 7 at the time & the experience literally changed my life.

[@earthstroyer]

h to the izzo beat by kanye was making me do backflips on my way home from Karate class when i was a kid, i was geeking to that sample on every available opportunity

[@likerainfromtheheavens1088]

Lauren shops at my local target and wholefoods and she has such an essence to her. They can never make me not love her!

[@littledutch987]

I saw Lauryn Hill in Manchester a couple of months ago and definitely for the songs she performed from The Score with Wyclef Jean, her voice was FLAWLESS. She's still a goddess!!

[@catherineasare8992]

I really enjoyed this conversation. Love FD. Please do more collabs. We need a review on Doechii

[@MoebiusChungus]

I could listen to you three talk about music and black culture all day. Some of the most entertaining stuff I’ve heard from a podcast in a long time

[@noonehere8416]

I love when you have FD on, yall have fantastic chemistry. And I love hearing the multitudes of different opinions yall have. It’s great to watch!!

[@RapLatte]

Our pleasure!

[@Arthkryst0]

FD doing a video on Battle rap is going to be PHENO-FUCKING-MENAL.... LOVE BATTLE RAP, LOVE FD. Y'ALL ARE FUCKING AMAZING!!!

[@drewd6426]

Rap Latte Drops, I watch immediately. Tourés a living museum!

[@Milanvaneijk]

YES, the take on 'fans/stans' that rings very true. And Im coming to this from a Western European perspective, and the same kinda applies here.

[@writeleft08]

This is my fave hip hop podcast. I love when y’all team up with FD Signifier bc he’s someone I really respect for his in-depth analysis videos. Great video guys.

[@tmithoth8956]

I'd love to see KRS One and RA Rugged Man have an in depth conversation about white boy rappers

[@zachariah7114]

Throw in Necro for a wildcard

[@Paien75]

Yooo that would be so dope lol.

[@champadin1755]

Eminem may not have personally had the intention to create the atmosphere he did, but there is no way that he, Dr Dre, the label, etc, didnt see the potential for turning suburban white kids into rap fans and not try to tap into that market. It already was happening but having a white face they could relate to really was the icing on the cake.

[@robfoster8356]

Green hit it early....it's the fandom & the environment the fandom has created. Ironically, I feel Akademiks is a product of the fandom for the "shiny suite" era & the prioritization of materialism over the craft.

[@khylerrunnels3376]

I know a lot of Eminem fans whose next favorite rappers are Mac Miller and MGK…

[@Laidback_616]

I’m black and grew up with Em, that said I related to Mac even more than him honestly. Mgk is a big NO in my speakers. Those are only two I’d say I’ve been a fan of.

[@suffer1055]

Mac and Em get love from the OGs fr, MGK is not it. he got cooked by EM and ran to pop punk

[@esmooth919]

Mac Miller is cool, God rest his soul. MGK, not so much.

[@SeanLKearns]

Bro you can't put Mac Miller and MGK in the same box. That's just a false equivocation.

[@AnubisBobert]

​@SeanLKearns I don't think that's what he's saying - the point is actually that they obviously don't belong in the same box for any reason other than their whiteness, so the white fans who say those are their top 3 are telling on themselves.

[@enderprefect342]

Love this! I was born post nine eleven and had similar experiences w/ rappers delight, young MC, etc. I grew up white in a trailer park in MI listening to the Beastie Boys & Led Zep while Em was on TV every day, but my roots were in the Florida Keys where my black fam lives and my younger brother was concieved. The Bob Marley conection and the coffee shop vibes were my reintroduction to Hip Hop during Covid when I started smoking weed and the Hip Hop series came out on Netflix. My first open mic was a coffee place locally inspired by Chali 2na and the project blowde crew. Love the videos y'all, keep putting in that good work! ❤❤❤

[@mattsonnie2989]

That makes sense that Fiq doesn't remember hearing hiphop for the first time. He grew up in that era where it was everywhere, all the time. Probably heard it first in the womb! Im a bit older and i distinctly remember hearing schooly d for the first time in 1986 on this weird modern music compilation my dad got with his fancy new stereo. I was too young to really understand what his words were about but the first beat drop i ever heard changed my life. Was on the look out for that music and that feeling ever after. Shit still am.

[@DanGolag]

The white rapper problem sounds like something you learn about when you study computational complexity.

[@Lemorgg]

I need people to do more research into Doechii’s discography. Her other mixtapes and projects she’s posted before she got signed would inform ppl that she’s always played in different styles and genres

[@thomascross8339]

Right after they look up Tierra Whack who is a 100x more creative and probably a better rapper because she's not trying to be a caricature of the guys.

[@AllMoneyInNoMoneyOut]

Yall definitely got a new subscriber, FD is my favorite KZbinr

[@RapLatte]

Thanks for subbing!

[@NJoCaulfield]

In '98, my mom and her friends took us kids down to the river to camp for a night so they could party. A guy had a '79 Firebird with a custom sound systen and put in Pac's greatest hits to blast while they partied by the bank. "Changes" came on and changed my life forever. Six months later, I was reading about Frederick Douglas and Nelson Mandela in the school library. Ha ha. Loved this convo, guys, I'ma keep an eye on this one! Appreciate y'all.

[@ademola34adeniran77]

G Eazy, and he's from thw Bay Area, not Sacramento

[@mishiwakka]

I came here to say this😂

[@JStack]

And even then he’s from a nice suburb and not what most people would consider the bay

[@Becauseimme]

The millennial generation is the first generation that the kids and parents could actually listen to the same music. For me, I fell in love with Hip Hop at 4 years old when I heard RUN DMC on Motown Merry Christmas special. I didn’t know what he was saying but I knew that this art form would be apart of my life forever.

[@TBoogy3]

"When did you fall in love with hip hop? " UTFO- Roxanne Roxanne. My first Concert as well.

[@J_Luxe21]

Great conversation. Love this channel. We need more of this in hip hop!!

[@Cocotaso.shaker]

I just caught on to this channel, listened all day at work yesterday

[@Yaboibeef]

Doin that rn

[@RapLatte]

Thanks for listening

[@RapLatte]

Appreciate you

[@Yaboibeef]

@@RapLatte always thank yall for providing insightful commentary on an artform I love and appreciate (as a guest)

[@phona4529]

I saw Ms hill in 2011 and in 2016, she performed sped up versions! My wife was confused lol

[@Loch1210]

FD been teasing this battle rap video for 7 yrs I been begging for him to drop it

[@janeljohnson5833]

48-year-old black woman from America (had a birthday) here. Had conservative parents on some Tipper Gore shit (I’m sure it didn’t help that the first song I knew all the lyrics to was “Gigolos Get Lonely Too,” I was eight -my Touré radio moment), they gave me a Black History Rap cassette. Talk about gateways…Run DMC, Public Enemy led me to Poor Righteous Teachers and I just knew I found my people.

[@DestroIABM]

As 9th always says: the music you fall in love with from the age of 12-15 is the music that shapes you for your life

[@JingleJangle356]

R&B isn't dead...its just not being pushed out as pop music as much. But theres a ton of independent artists and rappers doing r&b still, some really good shit too

[@derrickzorns6506]

I really wanna know how they feel about Mac Miller cause he stayed in his lane and didn’t bother nobody

[@satyarthsingh2276]

Mac Miller is loved and lauded by his peers, he was a good hearted soul, a rare breed truly.

[@TheDwightMamba]

Eminem is the better rapper, but Mac was better at making music I listen to a 2nd time.

[@romeod7549]

@@TheDwightMambaSmsrtest thing I’ve heard and I’m an old head. Mac make music you want to listen to.

[@Chin-Hwa]

FD was clear that Mac Miller was good, but the fact that he’s even mentioned in the GOAT conversation is galling.

[@Lukee-22234]

Mac helped Vince Staples get started by picking him up and giving him beats, he also recorded Black Hippie at his house in their early days. He was tapped in and had real talent, especially as a producer. FD also mentioned in his white rapper video that Mac takes a lot of inspiration from neo soul too though which I’d agree with

[@alunique2627]

Speaking of dancers...MC Serch got notoriety dancing at Latin Quarter...a notorious hip hop club

[@PrimeGalvatron]

Serch a real one.

[@eyeballchambaz667]

Phenomenal discussion. Yall should just get FD on permanently.

[@1mochadelightable]

Touré be on edibles 3:50 😂😂😂😂

[@Th3Abyss]

FD IS THE TRUEST. Glad to seem him get more exposure. Such a great and sound mind. You guys need to have him back.

[@EANDM71]

That you for appreciating Busta. By the way, that snippet is “Everything Remains Raw” which is one of my fave Busta songs!❤

[@Anarchangel349]

My dad used to dj at parties in the 80s and 90s, so hip hop was all around me as a kid but my first memory of seeking it out was when in 2003 (I was 7) becoming obsessed with Speakerboxx/The Love Below. I would take my dad’s cd and play it on the radio in my room when my mom wasnt home because she only allowed me to listen to RadioDisney lol

[@glamz2x]

Central Cee isn’t mixed with black btw. He’s Chinese, Guyanese and I believe European. Guyanese are a diverse population, that have many ethnic groups, like, Chinese, Afro Caribbean, Indian, etc.

[@jameson8010]

appreciated the discussion especially with regard to how to move in a space re eminem as opposed to others who don't carry themselves as a guest. I also liked the reframe to directing it to how fans engage with these spaces differently than the artists might. It's something that i try not to make anybody else's problem, but i'm always weary of being a tourist when it comes to hip hop. at the end of the day good music is good music! keep the focus there and appreciate it. also loved hearing when you all found hip hop. for me i think i really found it with Zero 7's another late night mixtape hearing Quasimodo "real eyes" and souls of mischief "93 'til infinity" for the first time.

[@RapLatte]

✅ appreciate u

[@DC11GTR]

32:14 is what I needed to hear!! I absolutely love good battle rap. More so than 95% of the rap music out right now.

[@smores_vv]

Glad to have found this channel!

[@happygilmore511]

Keep on, FD. I do NOT listen to hip hop, I'm purely a white tourist, but I'll never get tired of learning the deep lore of y'all's culture

[@rbd716]

My introduction to hip hop was the Busta Rhymes song on the Grinch movie soundtrack when I was 7

[@robinaitken9803]

Active student in sociology of law, does the conflict of intellectual property within the music industry ( from a postcolonial perspective ), showcase the active ownership structure of music today? What is HipHops role, and how do we see the professions conflicting (and for what?) Happy holidays 🥳

[@retromike1]

Rap Latte and FD can’t beat it!

[@arthvr1313]

This was a good convo. Hip hop culture has to stop supporting Vlad, AK, Adam 22 and any other KZbin channel , don't click on them. Artists should not go on platforms that do not show respect.

[@Artsyjjc]

Longest conversation but I still would’ve enjoyed more lol. Lots of great stuff was touched on

[@RapLatte]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@chomskyismyhomeboi3509]

Fantastic conversation! Respect

[@gigiajavon122]

Yall are amazing. Thank you

[@RapLatte]

Our pleasure!

[@elijahclaude3413]

Em is a funny story for me. He was my favorite rapper for a looooong time. Mostly because he was my intro into hiphop, since I had to kind of get into it from the backdoor, if you will. I was raised in the church AND my folks are Haitian, so I didn't get much organic exposure to hiphop. An Asian friend of mine gave me his MP3 player in highschool, which had like a thousand songs on there. That was probably the first time I actually got to listen to music in my own time outside of gospel or Haitian music or quick clips on the radio or TV. I remember feeling so rebellious listening to Em, Disturbed, and even Panic! in my headphones. As the internet started getting more accessible, I was actually able to go and find more music, and that's when I really started to get into other hiphop. I still felt like Em was hands-down one of the best when it came to technical ability of a type, but I found myself moreso interested in diving down the rabbit hole of 'backpack' rap and stuff like that. It wasn't until his last album where I realized that I no longer saw Em as my number 1, esp when you had folks like Kendrick, Lupe, Los, and Tech N9ne around. I also never really had white friends like that, so I pretty much avoided much of the white rap 'fandom' issues. But I definitely see that whenever I find myself reading comments on his new or even old stuff. Something that Really frustrates me about white rappers the most though, is that I feel like they often get to explore new avenues of rap with more impunity than black folks. Say what you will about Lil Dicky, NF, Chris Webby, Falling in Reverse, etc... they may be cringe sometimes (or often), but there is this.... idk... space for them to explore new sounds more readily. People like Tech N9ne have been doing that for a long time, but he was often outcast from the black 'community' because of that... I even feel like there may be a risk one day (esp if folks like Drake kept taking over), that hiphop would get taken from us just like Rock and Punk did... I have less fear of that now with Kendrick, but I do think its super important for black folks to be more open with what we see/accept as 'black' or 'hiphop'. Because without change, we will not grow, at least not in a way that we choose... and thus the thing we create can and will 'outgrow' us, even if its in a less vibrant skin. Iunno... just a bunch of thoughts I had while listening to this!

[@ryanhumor]

Not only is Eminem great - He got the best Co-Sign you can ask for at the time. Dr. Dre. There’s NEVER been a white rapper with a more significant co-sign. The closest thing is probably Drake being Co-Signed by Lil Wayne. (I’m not saying Drake is white. I’m saying the Co-Sign is culturally significant)

[@Laidback_616]

Great collab fellas.

[@MaatBlack-t7c]

My intro to hip hop was in '88. Geto boys, Slick Rick and NWA were on heavy rotation with the tdk and memorex cassettes.

[@KfmPodcast]

23:39 the song for me was The Art Of Storytelling by OutKast feat Slick Rick. I was 5 and it was on the radio

[@taylormade9748]

You 3 have awesome chemistry

[@thomascross8339]

Interesting that after 30 years of listening to Hip-Hop I've never heard any Latino/Asian/Arabic/Indian Hip-Hop artists being told they're "trying to be black" if they make Hip-Hop and that only the "white" rappers get that designation

[@Aaron-cg7dy]

@FDSignifire already knows he needs to do Dead Prez content. Young heads need a primer!

[@francisboone2978]

For me, it was Cappadonna's verse on 'Winter Warz'. Then I got introduced to Wu-Tang and that was it.

[@Rugbiii]

Think FD was thinking of G Eazy

[@ariedmck]

My older siblings were my intro to hip hop. The first time I remember something having an impact on my direct was I Need Love. I would’ve been like 7. And shortly dates that was hearing Christmas in Hollis in Die Hard. It blew my mind.

[@nycedyme4]

The comments knowing fd more than toure is crazy Sign of the times

[@RapLatte]

FD is pretty popular in these streets…

[@KAM-rl6tz]

I am Gen X. I most definitely knew who Touré was. 🥰

[@lucas_p0]

Old heads here in Brazil also get stuck on their ways and forget to what I cal "play it forward"... and then they wonder why our cultural movements don't last...

[@RapLatte]

Obrigado

[@BrothaNamProductions]

We need that battle rap video omg🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯

[@gytrplr]

More of this new favorite pod cast . FD explains complex topics for a perspective outside my own and I get it. Don’t miss his political Commentary he does his research.

[@mariahelizabeth_ent]

The KZbinr is basically a government contact is so on point! Calling out Data mining through dopamine and para social dependency is shakin the TAAABBLLEE!!!!

[@selena___]

Enjoyed this. Could have listened to a part 3 & 4 as others have said. New subscriber

[@RapLatte]

Thanks for subbing

[@not2mportant.797]

I think my problem with white rappers is a lack of understanding. They don't respect the craft as much as they should. I hate to say it, but as a young man who's 20, I haven't had a new white rapper effect me like Aesop Rock, El-P, & Action Bronson. Those three sound nothing alike, unique flow and style, and I love it. You know how much they respect the artistry behind it. Almost every mainstream white rapper sounds the same whether copying a soundcloud flow or fast rap bullshit. Shout out to the ones who just understand to culture and are a unique flavor rather than another Jack Harlow.

[@og_mante5138]

I think Mac Miller could also fit into that category

[@TheScourg3]

to be fair a lot of black rappers dont respect the craft either but they get a pass

[@chocolateladycap2773]

I needed this 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@RapLatte]

We here for you! Hope you subscribed

[@chocolateladycap2773]

@@RapLattealready subscribed 😊

[@t3-20-eberson8]

Saw Lauryn live 3/4 years ago in Brazil.. she sounded like an angel, and sang all original songs. Maybe is the Brazilian people that inspired her

[@AdoseofAlana_]

Cuz FD loves to talk lol. but we love to listen!!

[@-gf-]

i love listening to both touré and fd so this is such an excellent thing to happen

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

great convo.. we appreciate you guys

[@SeanLKearns]

Signifier is the redemption for the oldheads.

[@mystablak]

The conversation about Miseducation in a hip hop conversation always interests me because it was an R&B album and not a rap album.

[@DecaturQue]

Never thought of Central Cee as white. He seem black even though he look a lil white

[@DecaturQue]

See I thought so

[@MsAnneThrope1]

Slim’s “Without me” video is mostly him making fun of himself and Dre looking at him like he’s crazy 💀

[@brakekobos]

I saw Lauryn Hill Summer 2023 and her voice sounded fine. It obviously wasn't 90s Lauryn Hill, but she still had a good singing voice to me

[@MASTERPIECEFROMGOD]

22:55 DAMN ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@porqpai7082]

“When did you fall in love with hip hop?” Kool Moe Dee - I Go To Work

[@porqpai7082]

Just wanted to add, I’m a band head. Them horns got me.

[@adenrele1496]

Travelled 3 state lines listening to FD!

[@aslandeacon1536]

great episode!

[@benny9680]

That eye roll @ 5:11😭😭

[@RazorJoe-k3t]

Jack Harlow got a mega push that did not pay off at all. His album was so mediocre that he had to put out another one immediately after to wash the bad taste out of peoples mouths. But to be fair Chance the Rapper also got that crazy push and marketing and flopped even harder. The industry investing in a white rapper is probably such an attractive gamble to take because they’d have such a profitable demographic to sell to if it pays off.

[@AJJr-hc5lz]

Chance didn't get a crazy push. That couple of years, he seemed to be everywhere, was the culmination of years of hard work. He only has distro deals through tunecore and ditto and is in no way associated with major lables. 10 days made him a chigago star Acid rap made him regional star Coloring book, which is when the general public jumped on his wagon, made him an actual star. When you saw him after that it was never on label business. He was already a star and established brands and businesses were throwing money at him to promote their products

[@RazorJoe-k3t]

@ disagree he got an incredible push. Lookup who his family was he was industry all the way. Very similar to Harlow in the sense he had heavy mainstream media backing, commercials, and a deal with a sneaker company.

[@zachariah7114]

@@AJJr-hc5lz a YE cosign is a big push, look what it did for OF

[@CallMeCourey]

Everything always does go back to Ronald Reagan 😭😂

[@RapLatte]

👀

[@frederickthorne2496]

Lauryn Hill left and the world couldn't cope lol

[@Haitch_Kay]

I thought the thumbnail was wild until the first literal second of the video started lmao

[@BVTProductions]

Toure forgot after Em signed 50 he started to get his gangster rap fantasies off... Rocking durags, fitted hats and throwbacks. 😂😂😂

[@capitalistraven]

If this was on FDs channel I would say the best part of the podcast is the part where they talk about Eminem. The memes are good there.

[@tritonhill9684]

Ms. Lauryn Hill's still a net good imo flaws and all, but tell F.D. he has to do a vid on Erykah Badu!! One of the biggest requests i seen in the comments of his Lauryn Hill vid. Great conversation from y'all to listen in on!

[@j.t.fletcher2214]

A world where Lauryn DMX and outKast is the big 3 would be an interesting alt universe to be in

[@coltsfan354]

When Lauryn Hill left, "it all falls down." It was right there.

[@Haquize]

EMINEM WORE DURAGS TOURÉ