What the HELL is Titan A.E.? (The Movie That KILLED Fox Animation Studios)

[@Saberspark]

How many of y'all actually like this movie? Cause maaaan did it get destroyed at the box office. Poor Don Bluth lol

[@mynameisidk4012]

Ello :) Btw idk this was a movie xD

[@bluespectrum1348]

😏

[@buzzlightyear8157]

I never watched so idk :/

[@saikono5547]

I really never did but my brother did

[@finnakillyou]

It's a horrible movie

[@davidvargas7165]

Why did literally every boy/young man in 90's to early 2000's animated films always have that bowl, undercut hybrid hairstyle

[@kristiwalton5374]

i kid u not, when i saw the protagonist in the thumbnail , i said “ oh, it’s dimitri from anastasia”

[@tfracks]

Backstreet boys

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

Those hairstyles, bro. Incredible.

[@redpanda6497]

I noticed it too, and a lot of character have it. I just call it "Don Bluth male hair", but it also appeared in Disney movies, like Treasure planet or Atlantis: The lost empire.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

Gonna ask the same thing about today's trendy haircut, the ugly-ass fwip and toupee.

[@CuriousCreatures]

This film didn't fail because people didn't want to see it, it failed because people didn't know they could see it. It got zero marketing, much like The Iron Giant.

[@SR-wz2iv]

Lol my two favorite animated movies as a kid

[@ethribin4188]

The Iron Giant was an amazing movie though. Titan AE was... ok. Maybe good. But thats it.

[@CuriousCreatures]

@@ethribin4188Fair enough! For me personally it's one of my favorite animated films, and I always figured that the majority felt the same way, so I was genuinely shocked by Saberspark's reaction to it, to the extent that I couldn't even finish this video. 😅

[@deltacharlieecho4732]

This is pretty much what I expected to hear covered. Saberspark spends a segment here where he talks about Treasure Planet and comparing it to how forgettable the story around Titan AE was. Up until this video, I had forgotten that treasure planet was even a movie that was made and I probably haven't even thought about it in 3 or 4 years. I mean, if you really want to compare something to Treasure Planet for forget-ability standards, lets toss Disney's Atlantis: The Lost Empire into the mix, realize that all three of these movies came out around the same time, overall I enjoyed Atlantis less than Treasure Planet but I actually forget that Treasure Planet exists. Hell, I don't think there's a point in my life where I forgot that Iron Giant or Titan AE exists, sure there are long periods of time that I don't think about them, but it's not like I forget that they exist. It's not like when someone mentions Treasure Planet in a conversation and my immediate response internally is "Oh yeah, that's right, Treasure Planet was a thing that was made."

[@rexana_rexana]

Umm... Not to be "that person" but this is entirely opinion and view. I love treasure planet, pretty much knowing it by heart, forget I've watched Atlantis before, and have just never watched Iron Giant or Titan AE cause they just aren't on my radar. For SaberSpark, what he said is probably true for him. Again, to reiterate, you're probably right, for you, but not for everyone. (There's a very sizable community of people who love all those movies, BTW, so its not just me)

[@disparatedesperado9317]

Let's not forget, Cale names Earth 2 "Bob" because back at the turn of the millennium we all thought it was absolutely hilarious to refer to everything as Bob.

[@kiddpenn]

Oh man I remember being so annoyed with that as a kid, it made the new planet even more of a letdown aside from the graphics. 😅

[@stevethepocket]

Wow. And I thought Planet Jean from _Freefall_ was lame.

[@Mystery-Wolf]

It's kinda funny but annoying still. I might have terrible sense of humor tho.

[@VintageTolietWine]

That is true, like in Men in Black when those two one eyed aliens who work at MIB are named something like Mrkylzzkbn and Bob

[@roguereaver634]

People were silly in the 2000s, they didn't realise yet that Steve is a much funnier name

[@SobiTheRobot]

Fun fact, there's actually a book that goes into SO MUCH MORE detail about how the Drej are actually disgusted by organic life.

[@Masterr59]

Damn, do you remember what it was called? I can imagine there's some cool artwork that'd go with this

[@zacharyriley4561]

Plus Preed was like 10 times worse.

[@Retroboy-qb4li]

Hmmmm interesting

[@vorelordjr9019]

So basically the necrons from 40K

[@GSandSDS]

The movie has it's flaws. But I really liked it. Not a masterpiece but a decent movie (with an unfortumately bland antagonist).

[@luisthekingjaime94]

Let’s just see what Disney does they always want to remake and make live action versions of these movies

[@vrinnmetagen]

*unfortunately

[@luisthekingjaime94]

@@vrinnmetagen It’s just the way the company is

[@Asunaris]

Agreed. When I first watched it, I was at that age where I didn't have anything to compare it to and I really liked it! After rewatching it years later, I still think its a decent movie that deserved better

[@luisthekingjaime94]

@@Asunaris If we get the right directors in this movie I think it would be great

[@jtlovescodelyoko]

It's still so weird knowing that films like Titan A.E and Anastasia are basically now Disney movies, two films that Don Bluth created to compete with Disney are now owned by Disney.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

oof

[@stevennguyen8935]

Hahaha I sometimes forgot about that

[@JaredtheRabbit]

F

[@nicolemiller7760]

I’d use the word “sad” rather than weird.

[@medexamtoolscom]

It's even weirder that the simpsons is now owned by disney, especially since they called Disney evil in the simpsons movie, and made fun of it.

[@BugsyFoga]

It was kind of legitimately sad that fox animation didn't go anywhere due to titan ae being a massive bomb , films like Anastasia clearly show that they had potential to be great animation studio 😁👌

[@pinkneko13]

@@akumakurosawa she sits on the council but isn't ranked as a princess

[@pca1987]

@@akumakurosawa I hope Disney never touches Anastasia. I don't have any hope that they'd do anything good with it. At least not right now.

[@laurencefraser]

@@sian186 it's also got a number of major flaws. Starting with Rasputin's entire existance for most of the film. Don't get me wrong, I live Anastasia, but it would have been a lot better if it had dropped the magical fantasy nonsense (which was not particularly well done) and had things like Soviet government inspectors on the train and boarder crossings and the entire 90% of the journey to Paris they just skipped over in a single song be the actual plot. So much room for character development. Instead most of it's shoved in awkwardly after getting to Paris and then there's the rather nonsensical Rasputin boss fight where there's no good reason for the main characters to Win other than shear luck and contrivance. They have basically no skills, abilities, items... Anything that would let them win that fight. Which shouldn't even be happening. I love that film, but it's Super flawed.

[@Wiccanwolf08]

Hell, that's what the stage musical did. I love me some "In the Dark of the Night" because I love it when Jim Cummings sings, but I didn't lament when Rasputin was written out. The story actually makes more sense. For example, Anastasia, Dimitri, and Vlad have to jump from the train to avoid the police. Anastasia has a nightmare, not because of magic, but because she witnessed the death of her family and would naturally be traumatized. And there's no magical bridge fight, but rather a confrontation between Anastasia and a general, who is the son of a soldier that was involved in the execution of the Romanovs.

[@dull_demon4717]

Funny part is both Treasure Planet & Titan AE are both Cult Classic's that were considered failures, yet people still love them both. Lost City of Atlantis and Iron Giant are more Cult classics from the same time period. Idk what was going on in early 2000s, but i genuinely would love to see more movies like these four.

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

Minor correction but it's Atlantis: the lost empire, but yeah some of the best 2d animation was made in the early 2000s, it's just to bad nobody cared

[@jfess1911]

I was one of those who liked Titan AE but could never get over the lack of space suits in Treasure Planet.

[@SoloSwaggod]

I was L I T E R A L Y named after the main character from this movie. And as a kid with my father watching this movie I didn't care about the characters or story at the time I was just happy to be with my dad. I found the movie to be awesome as a six year old. I have it as a sentimental favorite for the fact that my father loved the movie so much to name me after it. The movie was a failure in a financial stand point but it was a corner stone of me and my father's bond. So I came to say I loved the movie failure or not.

[@ethancurry1804]

I thought about naming my son this too haha I went with Vasily instead

[@lewzealand4717]

@@ethancurry1804 For Vasily Alekseyev of course, yeah that guy was less a man than a mountain. A Legend. ;)

[@memethyst]

you're the second person i've seen in the comments that said they were named after this character

[@MrVkull]

You were named after a character from this movie? GWAAAAAAAAAAAH I FEEL SO OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cakecatlady263]

Lol my sisters wanted me to be called Anastasia because they loved the Anastasia movie so much. I ended up being named after my late grandmother instead though... which was probably fine, considering the political implications of the actual Anastasia, who was murdered in a coup when she was like 13. Don't know how I would feel about being named after her (indirectly)

[@anormalguy9320]

Really wish there were more mainstream animated movies for teenagers. Many people think teenagers don't like animation, but that is far from the case

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Anime is the perfect example of that.

[@dakat5131]

That's one of those things where either there's no marketed options to choose from (people have to know it exists), and then they go "no one bought anything from the category we've never tried, so it must be that nobody wants it. They all want what we want to make" or they horribly misunderstand the audience and then blame it on the medium.

[@Donut0389]

Anime. The genre you are looking for is Anime.

[@LinlinSparks]

Lol I am an adult 29 year old woman and I LIVE for animation!

[@Void_Out]

@@Donut0389 Well I mean, it’s not a genre, but yeah, anime.

[@Serioslump]

To be fair, Treasure Planet is literally just Treasure Island In Space, so the writers didn’t have to work as hard on developing characters arcs. The bones of some character arcs were already there in the original source material.

[@Zilkenian_Davenport]

I think for Treasure Planet they basically made all the characters more on the edgy side. Jim was humble and obedient in the books, and became his opposite in the movie. John was.... actually John was pretty accurate. The captain and doctor Livesey were morphed into that dog character (can't remember his name, but he's also a doctor), so I was left missing Livesey, which was the main father figure for Jim in the books, John being the secondary father figure. The cat woman captain and her second in command were movie exclusive, and Ben was Ben.

[@aislygncovante7524]

1) Treasure Planet came after Titan AE. 2) Treasure Planet is just Treasure Island set in space. Nobody really had to do any characterization. It was already written into a book decades and decades beforehand.

[@shinigamijack4208]

@SaveTheBest God you're irritating.

[@lordcornelius]

@SaveTheBest please go outside I’m tired of this

[@sharkiealami7817]

That’s not really fair cause even with source material like The Snow Queen, it took Disney 70 years to get the story right. It’s not that easy nailing a good story that people resonates with

[@XalesTardis]

Titan AE is a CLASSIC and I won't be convinced otherwise. Halo meets Treasure Planet. I've always loved this movie. I mean...they name it BOB!!!!

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

"His name was Robert Paulson!" Wait, wrong movie.

[@CaldeMarveen]

The irony of this statement is Titan AE preceded both of Halo and Treasure Planet. Side note: my love of this movie is why I never could tolerate treasure planet. It just felt like it got undue attention over the titan AE.

[@wesleyoldham4222]

Cale: "Where are we going to get a new planet?" Akima: "I don't know. Can we build it?" Bob: "Yes we can!" Akima: "That guy seems cool. Let's name it after him."

[@orangeslash1667]

@@CaldeMarveen Fun Fact: because Titian A.E is darker than most animated films, people thought that the film was inspired from anime like Akira. Don and Gary denied the anime influence, but they Acknowledged the comparison.

[@SatanicPizza]

I really liked Treasure Planet and Titan AE as a kid

[@Wolfdawg504]

Weird how people say Osmosis Jones was a flop, but it got great audience scores, was nominated for animation awards, and spawned a fairly popular TV series with 3 seasons.

[@andrejg4136]

I think with Osmosis Jones we have to add a caveat like financial flop or theatrical flop.

[@dreamguardian8320]

I for one find the series better than the movie.

[@pepperedash4424]

I don't think you know what a flop is.

[@VexAcer]

Because it did horrifically at the box office making only $14 mil when it had a $70 mil budget. It's very possible for good things to still do bad and it happens a lot. I still don't even know how it got a show afterwards. I can only imagine how that pitch meeting went. "Hey so you know that one movie that completely bombed for us? What if we doubled down and made a show of it?!"

[@medexamtoolscom]

They don't want something that merely is liked, they want it to kill at the box office. Sure, it's not a loss if something eventually recoups the investment with video sales and sales of the intellectual property to the content for use in other things like saturday morning cartoons (if that was still a thing), but they want EASY money, not money they really have to grind for.

[@Euphoryaaa]

Does anyone remember that animated movie called “We’re back” with dinosaurs that can talk and they come to New York(?) and they revert back to being wild? Just me?

[@Euphoryaaa]

Just looked it up. It’s called: “We’re Back! A dinosaurs story”

[@MarcMarioMaster]

@@Euphoryaaa IIt was a cute and in parts surely slightly spooky movie (circus part where they get forced to become ferocious again). Definitely helped that I was absolutely a 'Dinosaur' kid' at the time (honestly, I still think Reptiles are way neat in animation and prob my favourite) and still have fond memories plus a VHS copy of that movie. I should put that one on my DVD/BD list.

[@Euphoryaaa]

@@MarcMarioMaster Yes that ferocious part seems to be the only thing I remember of that movie. We rented it from blockbuster so many times and every time I fell asleep so my guess is that it’s actually pretty boring. (Also I always fell asleep watching Titan AE)

[@MarcMarioMaster]

@@Euphoryaaa I cannot recall ever falling asleep during any movie yet. I was always the quite overly energetic kid and cartoons just added to that, hehe. X3 Well, I think the remotely neat scenes in said movie would have been like the part with those dream machines by the two professors or when the Dinosaurs invade a New York parade (could assume that it's like Macey's without calling it that). But for me it was mostly the same during the 90s and early 2000s. Usually an Aunt of mine would rent movies and invite me over so I can watch them there.From DreamWorks stuff like "Road to El Dorado" to now more obscure movies like "Once Upon a Forest" to the typical Disney releases, naming "Emperor's New Groove" as a hillariously fun example. Fun home movie times. =D

[@Euphoryaaa]

@@MarcMarioMaster Oh yes, I remember the parade! It was probably boring for me because of my age at the time. Probably too much complicated dialogue and plot (We’re back! & Titan AE) for my baby brain at the time. You’re probably older than I am.

[@ProfSplendorFaction]

Don Bluth is actually working with Netflix to make a Dragons Lair Movie so his career is making a comeback and its supposedly going to star Ryan Reynolds and will release sometime this year.

[@Serioslump]

I read this comment and had to google Don Bluth because honestly I was 100% sure he was dead but nope, apparently he is still alive at 83-years-old. Wow!

[@Cr4z3d]

Sweet

[@JargonMadjin]

@@Serioslump It's the Mandela effect all over again, lol

[@jaym6996]

@@Serioslump same here and he actually lives relatively close to me?! The heck?! Also why did he list Anastasia, but not All Dogs Go to Heaven?

[@mcurran6505]

It was supposed to be a animated project but it was confirmed its going to be a live action project thanks to Netflix.

[@tsued0mem043]

I don’t understand how that movie could have failed that badly, I watched it with my parents in the past and it’s one of our favorites :/

[@beastofedelwood1473]

"Saber: "this was the last movie Don Bluth ever worked on" Don Bluth: "QUIT TELLING EVERYONE I'M DEAD"

[@LaLaLaLaNom]

Oh my god I really thought he was... What the hell!

[@bornana269]

Yea lmao i had to look him up, not only hes alive but apparently hes getting back in the industry

[@Delnyque]

He tried to make a dragon’s lair animated project in 2017 and Netflix bought it to make a live action series, I’m glad he’s making a new animation studio

[@PikkaBird]

Seriously, Saber really leaned quite hard on that button. There was only ONE occasion where he omitted mentioning it.

[@stars7710]

"I can still hear his voice..."

[@tinx713]

Saber: It had two sequels, Attack on Titan and Remember the Titans Symbionic Titan: **sad noises**

[@GeneralNickles]

Everyone just wishes symbiotic titan didn't exist. That show was the single greatest waste of potential I have ever seen. The first episode is FANTASTIC! It sets up a world and series of characters that are interesting and worth watching, and then episode 2 immediately ignores all of it and goes to boring modern day earth with 2 main characters that are about as cookie cutter and devoid of personality as they could possibly be. And rather than making it awesome looking giant space mech battling "american gundom" show it had every right to be, they decide it should be a stupid generic kaiju fighting show, like power rangers without everything people like about power rangers. Symbiotic titan had so much potential. It could have been AMAZING! But they gave up and ruined the whole thing in THE SECOND FUCKING EPISODE. Seriously. It's a complete culture shock. It's like they're two entirely different shows made by entirely different studios. The first episode is great. The rest is absolute garbage.

[@joekojima1251]

I liked the videogames adaptations of this movie: Titanfall and Titanfall 2

[@murasakiusagi5124]

@@GeneralNickles I liked the show how it is, who knows maybe there would've been more fighting if the was a second season......

[@zerokura]

Thats the presquel of Pacific rim two people get into big robot to fight monsters.

[@susieberthow4807]

😂

[@SchlubbyTomHanks]

i miss that era of these edgy animated sci-fis, even if a lot of them were not very good i love that theme.

[@gantzisballs]

Just watch Yamato 2199, it's basically the same thing as Titan AE only better.

[@pXnTilde]

Scifi just never does well. All my favorite scifi movies pretty much weren't "successful"

[@lilli554]

@@pXnTilde lmao yes it does what

[@pXnTilde]

@@lilli554 You're clearly not a scifi fan. There's more than just Star Wars, buddy.

[@lilli554]

@@pXnTilde no shit? That’s my point?

[@ethribin4188]

I liked how the Dread were animated. The low quality 3d made them actually look like solidified energy. And the contrast realy sold the alien alien nature of them. Sadly they lacked all personality. But looks wise, they realy felt like energie beings in a flesh-creature universe, more then any other movie before or since.

[@iluvsonicxshadow]

What was said: Titan A.E. What me, an Anastasia fan sees: Dimitri in Space

[@aislygncovante7524]

100%

[@calebschultz4270]

that's probably what got my mother interested in it. now it a family favorite. cool.

[@ThexDynastxQueen]

I never knew the kid's name cause everyone online usually calls him Space Dimitri lol.

[@himitsu.no.rakuen]

10 year old me was very confused when this came out. I thought it was a weird sequel to Anastasia 👀

[@insertlaughter]

Don knows how to draw two men and that's Dimitri and Vlad

[@jinhunterslay1638]

While this movie isn’t great, it does have its shining moments: . Starting with the FRIGGIN destruction of Earth and the human race (one of my first time witnessing a dark scene in a cartoon as a child) . An actual SMART henchman - brief scene when the heroes were trying to infiltrate a place

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Yeah, that was a bold move. I remember this coming out around the same time as Starship troopers and thinking this had more balls than that.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

Don’t forget the evil aliens _melting_ the “Jar Jar comic sidekick”. “Who would have thought? A smart guard..”

[@delta2372]

Let's not forget it's got some jamming music in it

[@kyotheman69]

probably why i liked it, didn't Starship troopers came out around that time, i freaking loved that movie, even though whole concept and execution was insane

[@HeilRay]

Had me at smart henchmen.

[@AHylianWarrior]

"This is impressive if it was 20 years ago" Titan A.E. WAS 20 years ago lol

[@loki_the_wicker]

I think this is a wooosh, but I can't tell.

[@jamesverner9132]

The better timeline

[@malekahmedsamir1337]

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis -------------------------

[@cerberuskane5061]

@@loki_the_wicker whats a whoosh?

[@69geeked420]

I think that was the point

[@hellopumpkin86]

The sharp transition between Elsa's singing and Cale's screaming was priceless. 😂

[@calebstallsworth2753]

In the novelization of the film (I read it when I was in middle school), there are several chapters written from the Drej queen's perspective where she explains a lot of why the Drej are so scared of humans. They are extragalactic aliens whose ship was brought to our galaxy through a space anomaly/wormhole millennia ago. They are essentially lost in space with no way to get home. Their method of reproducing comes from containing the energy of white dwarf stars and converting it into "bodies" of physical matter that do not decay. Their race transcended biologic bodies long ago, and they do not age and cannot die as long as their energy is contained. Until recently, they have basically been gods to many races in our galaxy because of their advanced technology, subjugating the other races for their resources and to maintain power. They lack the technology to reproduce on their ship, have no way to recreate it, and their finite population is decreasing due to increasing conflict as the races in our galaxy become more technologically advanced and start fighting back, creating weapons that can destroy their physical forms. Aliens spying for the Drej find out that humans have discovered a new form of energy and are using it in a top-secret project led by Cale's father, Sam Tucker and his wife (who the Drej captured, tortured, and killed to find out more information about the project). The energy source that powers the Titan harnesses energy from stars and converts it to physical matter (similar to how the Drej reproduce, and is why Cale can use Drej energy to power the Titan so easily). Humans are outside of Drej control and, in fact, are part of a coalition of races that resist the Drej and provide aid to those worlds that are under Drej oppression. The Drej attempt to steal the tech and fail. Their plans uncovered, they decide to destroy Earth out of fear that humans and their allies will weaponize the Titan tech and end their already dying civilization. The Titan could be both their salvation and destruction, and that is why it is so important to them. I wish they had included this bit of backstory in the movie. I'm sure it was thought of as a retcon for the novelization, but it really deepens the lore and gives reason to the main conflict in the film.

[@Masterr59]

Yeah that's not a bad backstory. The only thing that I think is odd is why they wouldn't be able to reproduce easily.

[@TheMonkeOfficial]

@@Masterr59 Transcending biological bodies means you lose the aspect of biological reproduction. Think Necrons in Warhammer, where souls are trapped in metal bodies. They can be rebuilt so long as the soul isn't destroyed, but it's either impossible or nigh so to birth a new one. So I'm not surprised that they'd have difficulty making babies

[@Sigismund697]

Woah that actually really neat Another case of being afraid of lore in favor of flair and action

[@Dillpickle1997]

Holy shit, thank you. This has been a mystery to me since I was a kid.

[@mysteryjunkie9808]

@@Masterr59 they don’t have physical bodies how are you supposed to reproduce when you’re made out of energy

[@VoodooSockMonkey]

My childhood. Parents definitely did not know this was an "adult" film

[@Saberspark]

I wouldn't say it was adult, more PG if anything

[@ottomanempirefrom]

@@Saberspark E

[@VoodooSockMonkey]

@@Saberspark That's true. Mom did overhear me watching and said "Oh that one! I remember"

[@sparrowskeleton1831]

Wasn’t this movie on Cartoon Network at one point? I remember watching this on TV as a kid

[@Trufflemaster]

@@sparrowskeleton1831 Yes, it was on Cartoon Network!

[@distantmind956]

From my understanding, Corso's change of heart at the end happened when he overheard Cale talking about how he could reprogram the Titan to use Drej energy. I always understood him as having given up on humanity's battle for survival and instead focusing on his own wellbeing, but once he got a glimmer of hope that humanity actually stood a chance against the Drej, he ended up changing his mind and sacrificing himself for everyone else. Not a bad story arc, from how I see it, but it was portrayed rather badly.

[@alexwalker2582]

I believe it was that as well as the fact that the Drej payed someone to kill him, so ultimately both hope and a healthy dose of desiring revenge fueled the sudden turn-around.

[@distantmind956]

@@alexwalker2582 That, and the fact they hired someone to stab him in the back, and the fact he killed that person, meant he had no more cards to play that would realistically give him the riches he desired. His death wasn't heroic as much as the last efforts of a horrible person driven by greed and despair to do at least something good in his life.

[@chibisven]

I LOVED this movie when I saw it back in the day, I didn't even realize it was a flop until years later. I'm not going to pretend it was a cinematic masterpiece or anything, but I'll still go back and re-watch this one from time to time.

[@Blastertronus]

It feels like Titan A.E. Was rushed and never met it’s full potential as a film, if it weren’t for the mishaps behind the scenes, we could have had a good film. Heck! Fox animation could have still Been around.

[@delta2372]

It's a great movie with cool ideas and concepts but because of it being rushed it never got to live to it's potential

[@derekstein6193]

Also, remember that a box office success does not a good film make, nor failure does a poor movie equate. Emoji movie vs Clue.

[@reikun86]

@@derekstein6193 Clue is an excellent movie 👍🏽

[@kyotheman69]

it had flaws, but it was a good movie, not sure why people hated it back then

[@Loremastrful]

Sorry Blaster but the answer is no. Lots of studios attempted faux anime in the mid to late 90s. They all crashed and burned. Disney crashed with Treasure Planet and Atlantis. Sony crashed with Final Fantasy. WB hit the skids with Batman and Iron Giant. Everyone lost their shirt.

[@DragonRagovi]

I feel really terrible for Don Bluth. It's like every time I watch something related to him it's about him being in the right place at the wrong time and he ends up getting screwed over in the end. I might check out this film sometime. It looks like fun.

[@akimbofurry2179]

Its realy good.

[@VeXeDZERO]

It's fantastic. Holds up really well.

[@amberwolf5371]

I may be bias because I loved this movie as a kid but I would 100% recommend it! I watched it again recently and I think it holds up even with its flaws.

[@lynntaylor9681]

It's a good movie. It came out when I was 20 and I saw it in the theater twice. Yeah the plot is kinda disappointing but it's still a fun movie and has never deserved all the hate it gets.

[@AriesT1]

I loved it as a kid. Especially because it had really ambitious, dark and well-made action moments compared to other animated films. The universe had great potential, at that. Poor Bon Bluth, indeed. The film, despite all its flaws, deserved better.

[@Masterr59]

I thought the Drej were badass as a kid, and the way the talked.

[@nunyabidness674]

In my opinion Titan AE was one of the finest pirate movies I have ever seen. Your "Edgy boy" view of Cale missed the presentation of a guy looking for some meaning as to who he actually was. Not a coming of age movie, but a movie of an individual who had started out feeling cast away by his family like a piece of discarded rubbish, who to this point had been forced to make his own way in a highly bigoted society. All of a sudden he is offered a spark of a chance to try to find out who he was and where he came from and why his family walked away from him in the first place. He was a nieve character to ulterior motives and started out starstruck by Korso, who he grasped onto as a surrogate father figure. Akima just happened to be one of a pair of independent female roles in a crew where everyone was indeed treated equal. The concept that Cale would wind up infatuated with her wasn't because she was written as a love interest, but more a case of that she was probably the first female of his own species he'd ever been able to interact with on an adult level. Sure he'd been around other females throughout his life, but most were most probably not human, and as such the expectation of bigotry would have prevented him from forming emotional attachment. The rest of the alien crew were each a fragment of human personality traits and as such formed a sort of family in space, the one thing Cale had been missing his whole life, and as such each were endeared to Cale as he became not only part of the crew but part of the family by extension. I have to point out. You utterly missed Korso. Dude was a merc through and through. A psychopath who is willing to use anyone to improve his own condition. He didn't care that he chucked the entire planet under the bus, he was in it for himself and was looking to fulfill his own megalomaniac desires. He knew that the Titan was the one thing the Drej wanted, and he was looking to milk them for as much as he could. He finds Cale, who just so happens to have the ring. He already knows what the rings full purpose is, and inserts himself in the surrogate farther figure role to gain control of the the ring, and the Titan itself as an end result. The ending still supported that mentality, as when the Drej showed they didn't care about his desires, he was willing to assist Cale in burning the Drej to create a new planet. Once again he was using Cale for his own desires as If he'd survived, it would leave him as a guy worshiped by humanity as a hero for providing a new homeworld. The crew was a pirate crew, under the command of a merc. In the end, the crew mutinied against Korso and appointed Cale as the captain for all intents and purposes. Cales motivations changed to an honorable position, willing to take on the adventure in the face of the overwhelming odds that the Drej presented, not for a selfish reason but the more selfless act of providing for his entire race. The crew was already scared of the Drej, and were willing to back Cale up if it meant their own species would no longer have the threat the Drej presented hanging over their heads. This was a promise of actual hope that Korso had never even hinted at. Where the movie failed was it was an animated flick, marketed to kids and teens, but with a depth that was on a level far beyond what the average American 14 year old could grasp and most adults couldn't take seriously as it was an animated film.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Actually, I don't think Korso started out as a merc. Remember, he is present at the start of the film driving that hover car with Cale and his father during the evacuation, and he seems to be genuine in his interactions with both of them in the brief time he's there. It's only after 15 years of wandering through space that he's become a heartless bastard who's lost all hope, but in the end, he deliberately sacrifices himself after realizing that Cale's plan to use the Drej themselves to power the ship will work. He deliberately uses his gun to form the necessary connection between the two broken parts that need to connect, and he holds it in place himself to help serve as a conduit, knowing that he won't make it due to the injuries he'd sustained. Personally, I see him as the man who Cale could have become if not for his own change of heart throughout the movie. I honestly think he had a change of heart at the very end when he sacrificed himself.

[@Duality333]

@@BioGoji-zm5ph well said to both of you. I agree about Corso. Psychopaths and sociopaths are often hard to distinguish. Where you said psychopath I think he turned into a sociopath whist his entire life was ripped From him and the work he put into the titan just vanished making it worthless. It wasn’t until after all he’d done to cale and Cale still trying to save him from falling does corso have a change of heart. Like that’s a pretty huge moment of revelation for someone to go through esp if he’s only been around people who’d want him dead for however long he was in space. Enough to make someone see reason I’d say.

[@Duality333]

@nunya bidness The psychopath part was to you not the other person lol. I wish you could multi reply tag

[@nunyabidness674]

@@Duality333 I was leaning towards psychopath mainly because Korso had done a deal with the Drej to deliver the Titan. Sociopath would be seeking to destroy all life other than themselves (Justification of "One less bugger sucking up my perfectly good oxygen...") while the psychopath just desires the destruction of one particular entity (Group / Race / Ect.) and they don't rightly care what the cost is as long as they come out on top. Once Korso came to realize the Drej were going to burn him regardless of them getting the Titan, the mental shift of "Well EFF YOU TOO!" started taking hold and he was willing to work with Cale as long as the Drej went down. As for him being a Merc, that is a mentality that military training will often bring out in an everyday average Joe. An individual seeking a group with a clear objective often times get disillusioned when the group turns hypocrite, and can bring out the mindset of "To hell with the other guy just as long as I win." Following a few wins with this mindset it's not hard to cross the line into "I'm this good, who's the highest bidder for my skills?"

[@Duality333]

@@nunyabidness674 I always thought the biggest difference between the two are psychopaths are born that way and cannot and will not ever show empathy or really any emotions even though they act like they do. Sociopath is adopted anti social behavior

[@ramirezthesilvite]

Bluth is currently producing a Dragon's Lair movie, starring Ryan Reynolds. It'll be on Netflix, hopefully later this year. It was supposed to be a 2D animated film in Bluth's style, but I saw an article that claimed it would be live action and I'm suddenly less excited about it.

[@PikaLink91]

That project is still ongoing?

[@ccggenius]

The sizzle reel was funded via crowdsourcing, and was 2d. No studios bit on that, but Netflix wanted the IP. They wanted him to make a CG movie (probably for budgetary reasons), he was like, "hell no". and live action was the compromise. Kind of a bummer because Dirk the Daring is the role Bruce Campbell was born to play, and that obviously didn't happen when they needed the actor to BE him. I think the best case scenario at this point is that they Roger Rabbit the it and the fantastical elements are 2D, with the people and scenes being real to cut down on the animation budget.

[@ramirezthesilvite]

@@ccggenius ugh that's so dumb. I hate this attitude of "no one likes 2d animation so never do it ever."

[@madcap3450]

@@ramirezthesilvite Right? Theres literally no point in watching a dragons lair film that's live action. I think I'd rather watch that piece of shit excuse for a monster hunter movie

[@ccggenius]

@@ramirezthesilvite In this case it was more, "Don Bluth INSISTS that it be both 2D and hand animated", and studios are, "That is WAY too expensive".

[@ghostrickalucard488]

One of my college art teaches actually worked on Titan A.E. and according to them it was a living nightmare to work on. Apparently they didn't even have a workable script for almost 6 months and because they kept changing their minds about what the hell the movie was even going to be about the storyboard artists would just board scenes that never made it into the movie because they were based off of a script that didn't even exist. The Storyboard artists were so frustrated with the higher ups for lack of direction that they would just spend most days making up storyboards that were complete nonsense and "allegedly" for shits and giggles they even storyboarded a hardcore sex scene and it apprently became a inside joke at Fox Animation but they knew they would get in huge trouble if someone like Bluth found out about it so they hid the boards in a maintenance closet, but that didn't stop its infamy that even people who weren't even in storyboards would make arrangements to come and laugh at it which is fucking epic.

[@Emme_Umbra]

I’m not sure if I should believe you bc your a random person on the internet, but I am because that’s funny as hell

[@ghostrickalucard488]

@@Emme_Umbra I would name drop them to prove it but I don't wanna risk them getting any backlash since they still do industry freelancing and storyboarding I mean at this point I doubt they would but still you never know in this day and age. I can say this, during their tenure at Fox Animation they did work on both Anastasia and Bartok as well.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Damn. We must find the lost forbidden SCROLLS!!

[@Flowerbarrel]

That’s awesome but I feel bad it was so crap to work on. Animators deserve a better time of things. They’re always stomped on, aren’t they?

[@hindsunup6777]

Damn..

[@manicpixiefangirl4189]

I actually can see Titan and Treasure Planet being set in the same universe. Would be an interesting crossover.

[@michaelwolfe9496]

Doesn't really work because of Treasure Planet's steampunk aesthetic.

[@whosaidthat84]

@@michaelwolfe9496 Yeup. And it exists in a more fantasy-ish world where the laws of physics are a bit different.

[@KraziShadowbear]

@@michaelwolfe9496 Maybe in similar dimensions, or maybe two sides of different galaxies. Two galaxies that change in physics when one moves between them. I might be looking too deep into this.... XD

[@alexlabelle3049]

My sister and I were personally responsible for most of the ticket sales in our state I think. Wore out our video after it came out for purchase, too, bought the soundtrack...man we were huge nerds for this movie.

[@trenchcoatbees8386]

This movie actually scared me about the world ending, like at the age of like 8 I had a existential crisis.

[@godofchaosandmadness]

i remember being 11 and i kept hearing about how korea was gonna bomb the us back in 2016. I was fucking terrified

[@kimifw58]

_Actually,_ Anastasia had a fair amount of CGI as well. It just wasn't as prominent as Titan A.E.'s.

[@jammiemc4447]

Now I have to rewatch that movie cause I never realized that

[@Popcultureguy3000]

@@jammiemc4447 You don’t remember the cgi demon-faced possessed train?

[@jammiemc4447]

@@Popcultureguy3000 lmaooo no I havent watched in a long minute, like im sure a decade at this point

[@RoxasHeartplay]

Saber, you're tell me the ending of the movie went " Ah finally. Earth 2." Almost two decades before the meme was made? This movie was ahead of it's time.

[@kimifw58]

I'm so tired of Zoomers talking like everything they like is new.

[@eatyourcereal4134]

Stfu

[@roserose109]

@@eatyourcereal4134 stfu

[@kimifw58]

@Christ Our Savor Thank you for that.

[@MantraMan2077]

Actually he calls it Planet Bob. I'm not joking.

[@activemotionpictures]

Little quirky fun-fact. At my local theaters Titan AE and Treasure Planet overlapped just by 1 week. I bought a ticket to see Titan AE, the ticket lady sold me the seat number, the movie started; all of the sudden I see colorful characters (yet a young boy loosing his father) not knowing why the characters look so different. 30 Mins. into the movie, I was like: "When will he grow that menacing appearance of a rebel?". The movie finished, I saw the most impressive ending in (yes) 2D+3D. I came out of the theater with everyone else, and the movie room had the WRONG exhibition MOVIE FILM (Treasure Planet) with the TITAN AE poster. In addition: I got to see Treasure Planet as the most remarkable 2D+3D hybrid movie of 2000's. -Some things are just meant to happen. If it wasn't for this review, Titan AE was just a vague "wrong ticket exhibition theater" at the back of my mind.

[@ProjecTJAD]

Man, this was literally my favourite animation film as a kid.

[@shaneoblack1672]

Same here. I've still got it on the old VHS tape, moved it to digital a few years ago and still watch it from time to time.

[@algireaux1364]

Agree. :-)

[@zainabalansari3549]

Sameeee , I didn’t see how disastrous it was....

[@Zedrapazia]

I loved it too, can't see why it couldn't be a success

[@crazypickles8235]

Same!

[@jmlkinc]

"I hate the early 2000s. What happened to us over those years" ...9/11. 9/11 happened.

[@thedrewster0408]

Also the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[@Mars-dw2zc]

would that really have an effect on kids movies??

[@Pollicina_db]

The 2000's were the best years here in Europe, especially in the case of my country that was in homeland war in the 90's.

[@MrChristianDT]

It was a bunch of ironic pop culture things that just kind of gelled together. You had that state of mind, combined with rock music coming back into style, the fact that TV restrictions had finally begun lifting in the 90s & special effects were becoming more common, so there was a lot more people could do in story telling & they all wanted to go darker & the whole country had started passing into a less religious state of mind (it comes & goes. Arguably, we're more religious now than we were 10 yrs ago & I'm sure we'll flip-flop again in the future), so things that bothered certain Christian groups as being blasphemous or too disturbing weren't as big of an issue.

[@thedrewster0408]

@@Mars-dw2zc A lot of media had to make changes in scenes that were anything that was reminiscent of the attacks.

[@himitsu.no.rakuen]

Listen, I love Treasure Planet. But I’ve only seen it once. I’ve watched Titan AE over and over and over again. I adore this movie-ADORE. It’s completely underrated. Flaws or not, it’s a gem.

[@jazzratoon]

Tho you can't deny the CGI backgrounds really stick like a sore thumb. While also having a confusing story.

[@himitsu.no.rakuen]

@@jazzratoon lmao not when I was 12 and the technology was still cutting edge. I thought the movie was very well animated! Seeing it back now tho? I get it 🤣

[@Kenneth_A_H]

@@jazzratoon You thought this was confusing?

[@lilyluck884]

@@jazzratoon Dude Beastwars may not aged well but the story/characters are amazing at that time. So even by nostalgia it's still pretty good during that time and not everything about CGI animation have to be 'better'. As long they convey the enviroment fitting towards the setting it takes place.

[@chrysecreative5575]

@@jazzratoon I agree, the CGI was either too extensive or executed poorly.

[@MWCharke]

This movie was amazing. I've seen it so many times. The animation was unique. The story, regardless of what troubles it might have had getting made, was a classic story; The human race faces extinction. We've got a classic boy meets girl story and the aliens were really cool. The ice scene is like nothing ever done before.

[@micahflanders6789]

You mention “Remember the Titans”, and “Attack on Titan”, but you’ve forgotten the *following: “Clash of the Titans” (including “Class of the Titans” and “Crash of the Titans”) “Wrath of the Titans” “Teen Titans” (Including “Titans”, and” TTG”) “Titanic” “The Titan” “The Titan’s Bride” “Titan Quest” “Titanfall” “Sym-bionic Titan” Edit: list subject to be updated.

[@PheonyxJay]

Sym-Bionic Titan was something so few people talk about now

[@eaglefan2569]

Sym-Bionic Titan was cut too short and it's such a shame.

[@azraelle6232]

The Titan Extended Cinematic Universe.

[@Salem-1610]

And then the Titans from Godzilla.

[@AlchemicKeyblader]

Don't forget "Class of the Titans"! Edit: Ah, yes, the thing the person right above me just mentioned.

[@TheSonOfTheDragon]

This movie is the definition of "okay". It wasn't the greatest thing ever but it was far from horrible.

[@CptApplestrudl]

What does it really have going for it? Everything is meh. I have watched it once and never again.

[@Hirabeatz]

@@CptApplestrudl yes that is the definition of okay

[@aas2009]

Childhood nostalgia. But I figure he'd go there. But at long you can still enjoy it (while remember the time you currently reside) But i do admit if part of the he movie were stretched out more. It could of a had a little universe to it

[@CptApplestrudl]

@@Hirabeatz Nah, meh is below okay in my rating ^^ The Sonic movie was okay. Titan AE is meh.

[@genyakozlov1316]

@@CptApplestrudl Cool animation and music. Is that really not enough for you?

[@QuantomX64]

I'll just be sitting over here with my nostalgia rose tinted glasses.

[@lynntaylor9681]

Me too. I think Titan A.E is a better movie than Treasure Planet and I always will.

[@raam726]

Nostalgia is sweet poison

[@Lawsonomy1]

Disagree, that movie was just good, and Saber is just talking some straight s**** in this video because it didn't make money.

[@shenloken2]

With my rose colored headphones because the soundtrack to this movie is still awesome!

[@SammEater]

It's my tuuuuuurn to flyyy.

[@Dylan-cu4ty]

A movie isn't a failure if it stays with you from childhood, and you have a fond memory looking back on it. Titan A.E. is one of those movies for me. Money isn't always sucess.

[@Mr.Smiley_J]

That neck snap is the only thing I ever remember when I think about this movie. It was sudden and brutal, and then dude just tossed his body aside like a piece of trash.

[@KyrosTheWolf]

Ikr, I watched it when I was young thinking it was a kids movie with PG Violence, and was suddenly surprised when he just snapped his neck lol

[@twist58]

As a young teen, I didn't get it back then over what happened to Preed. But now as an adult, his betrayal and ultimately his death was justified!

[@secretname3897]

Same!! It's LITERALLY the only thing I remember clearly from the only time I saw it when I was like 7, but boy do I remember it crisply

[@Shadowkey392]

It was awesome!

[@Mongler37]

I actually kinda liked Titan AE. Kinda saw it as a kid-friendly Heavy Metal.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

No, that would be Felix the Cat: The Movie

[@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879]

@@Chud_Bud_Supreme you mean flitz the cat

[@azmadazme]

I think you mean 'Fritz the Cat'... which is pretty hilarious since Art Vitello ( one of the guys mentioned here as a writer - but was actually brought on to direct Planet Ice/Titan AE And blew 30 mil in pre-production with nothing to show for it) was actually an assistant animator on 'Fritz the Cat' @@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879

[@sarahlagro6246]

The movie itself was fine. The marketing and support for it was abysmal. It’s still one of my top ten faves and always will be. It’s a magnificent piece of art that still holds up!

[@adampellett4917]

Titan AE is an underrated masterpiece. It’s sad that Don Bluth lost his direction even Fox had issues in production financial costs. Thanks to KZbin movies, we can watch it for free. We can now appreciating the unappreciated animated flick even more. Don, thanks for all your work in animation even it has issues. Still I enjoying the movie forever. Great vid, Saber.

[@52BLUE]

Thanks to KZbin movies? 😂 The only reason you get to see the whole film on KZbin is because Fox do not care about it at all.

[@ganaaplayz]

This movie is a masterpiece next to Titan EA which costed 60$ to watch.

[@Starbuck32123]

@Заработок от 3000 в день cring

[@olliecyclops9164]

Don’t forget about the 10$ end-of-the-movie dlc

[@o3o930]

lol

[@cupidlvr]

@Заработок от 3000 в день idk what the frik you tryna tell us but no.

[@Trainfan1055Janathan]

11:30 "AH-HA-HA! THAT GUY GOT HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A COCONUT!"😂

[@akisa7865]

You okay Saber? FINLAND!

[@himikotoga6254]

🍨🧁🍩 So this is what I get for working overtime

[@baryardeni9731]

Oh, no, he did not. He just swore at him bad word number 11 (Judas and Jesus review)

[@angievenne3428]

He’s not ok he gave Acela a negative review how could he?!?!

[@angievenne3428]

Not to mention Trinity Santos did well in her role of voicing Acela

[@pLanetstarBerry]

Ok, the movie itself was fine, if a bit rough storytelling wise, but... can we please bring up that A+ scene where the guard saw through the crew's disguises and called them out on it? I feel that scene goes underappreciated.

[@cptTK421]

An intelligent guard; didn't see that one coming.

[@MrVkull]

"I HAVE FINISHED MY NAP!" still one of my favorite movie quotes to this day

[@Tarrenger]

That needs to happen more often!

[@dollarbill6102]

Rolled high on his intelligence check.

[@akisa7865]

That guard: *S* *M* *O* *R* *T*

[@TroaBarton]

I saw this opening night in theaters, and I absolutely adored it and still do.

[@NuggetTheDog9]

Let's just take the time to mourn the loss of Fox's two animation studios. R. I. P. Fox animation and Blue sky

[@nas0518]

I blame Disney for the upcoming demise of Blue Sky Studios...here is the part when SaberSpark said about Fox will be let go by Disney, 6:48 and I do agree with him...I always hated Disney buying Fox.

[@princewellidk]

@@nas0518 at least we got FX

[@kyotheman69]

was no reason for Disney to shut down blue sky studios, not like they making much for animation, Frozen was there main hit for long time, they had Wreck IT Ralph but they ruin that with sequel thanks going woke

[@luizfelipevbf5567]

@@kyotheman69 not just going woke, but mostly just forgetting about the first film for some reason. All of a suddenly going Turbo isn't a big deal and Ralph's personality is just completely different.

[@nas0518]

@@princewellidk Sadly, Disney owns FX too.

[@arya8165]

Titan A.E. and Treasure Planet are the most underrated animated moves ever made. I will die on this hill. Fight me !

[@aMABcreation]

Titan A.E. is definitely underrated, but tons of people know about Treasure Planet and there's a big majority who want it to become a live action film. I'd put Disney's Dinosaur (2000) on the most underrated animated movie list, too. People I've talked to have forgotten it exists. But I still love it.

[@MatthewPaul92]

@@aMABcreation The problem with Dinosaur is that it came out in that awkward era of Disney when they were experimenting. I loved Dinosaurs as a kid and I’ll occasionally look back on it. It’s not a fantastic movie but it certainly is underrated. What makes Treasure Planet painful for me was that I was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Animated Feature but lost to Spirited Away - so it DOES have value. And yes people have said they wanted this movie to be remade, along side movies like Atlantis. If any movies deserve remakes it’s the films that were seen as “disappointments” to Disney. Rant over I apologize

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

I unironically loved this movie as a teen. Then again, I also loved Water World.

[@henryrodgers7386]

I thought Titan was pretty cool, stylistically. The art, design, and sci-fi tech were interesting. The plot wasn't the greatest, but it had an intriguing premise, in my military-sci-fi-nerd's expert opinion. Plus, how many movies have an angry, overworked dragon-kangaroo with a gun and a turtle nerd?!

[@cursedvixen]

My point exactly, I have mad nostalgia love for this movie. Sure, I can admit to the plot flaws pointed out by Saber, but I REALLY loved Steff and Goon as characters (especially Goon, he was so cute) and the whole space tech and visuals are at least inspiring. Maybe someone could pick it up one day and make it even better.

[@pcachu]

Shame the Sly Cooper movie didn't pan out, or you'd have some competition in the second category.

[@iaobtc]

"I miss the early 2000s... what happened to us?" I felt that

[@edwardiii8409]

For me it was 9/11

[@edwardiii8409]

@Luuk_ T0rnadoes yeah shit just changed and so did the entertainment; nickelodeon, fox kids, disney channel, hip-hop etc.

[@1dollarlambo]

@@edwardiii8409 after that everybody can easily become offended

[@iaobtc]

@@edwardiii8409 For the worse

[@edwardiii8409]

@@iaobtc precisely...for the worst

[@bloodclaw123]

It feels so strange hearing this movie talked about as a 'failure' when it was one of the best movies I ever saw as a kid. =v=; This, Treasure Planet, and Atlantis: The Lost Empire were honestly my favorite movies of all time... Hmm.

[@osets2117]

Atlantis, a movie disney for some reason hated even though the directors made Disney tons of money and this was all they asked from Disney. Disney however basically said fuck you we're not promoting it

[@BlackCat-tg7th]

Omg yeah I loved these !

[@NattyRose]

@@osets2117 it was actually treasure planet. Basically the directors loved the story of treasure island and wanted to work on a futuristic story about it a.k.a treasure planet. Disney said no they insisted and kept them working on other projects. Finally they put their foot down and said no more. They made a deal. They would make Tarzan and ir to hat didn’t flop they could make their own dream movie. So Tarzan was a hit and treasure planet was born later on, but Disney being petty didn’t help them promote it, which was the same with Atlantis. Atlantis was supposed to be the beginning of more action movies drawn. Not typical Disney and something that Disney didn’t care enough.

[@simtexa]

Same, I feel as if they were enjoyable because they were more interesting and dealt with novel themes. Felt more mature than most animated films at the time.

[@Crick1952]

My movie bro! I literally made the same comment on the community post 😂

[@WyoHighlanderDef]

This is definitely one of my favorite movies from my childhood. Recently found out my wife hasn't seen it so I bought a used DVD copy, cus I lost my VCR copy years ago...also cus who the hell still has a working VCR, and watched it. She actually liked it, I was happy. Can't wait to watch this classic with my kids.

[@stapuft]

titan A.E. was an AMAZING movie. its genuinely sad that so many people hate it.

[@WaspandUnicorn]

Yes! I totally agree.

[@brandonparks7760]

Same i had 3 of them 2 dvds 1 vhs and loved it

[@ravenskull2631]

YES! ❤️

[@MisoraNaomi_888]

I really don't know why so many people hated it, I really liked it when I was a kid!

[@IamCoalfoot]

I _love_ this movie! ... but I have to admit, it _really_ doesn't perform like a 130+ million dollar movie. Like, maybe 30 mill, and drop the CG, the handdrawn animation is better anyway.

[@RM10Prod.]

But can we all agree that the songs, "Cosmic Castaway" and "I'm In Over My Head" are great songs?

[@MovieManReviews]

I can agree and I also like It’s My Turn To Fly and Like Lover too

[@RM10Prod.]

@@MovieManReviews those were also really good

[@Fentoozler926]

20 years later and I still listen to "Over my Head." It's fantastic.

[@dragons_hook]

@@MovieManReviews it got me into "the urge" the group that wrote it. And I'm glad it did

[@kriscynical]

Yep don't forget It's My Turn to Fly and Karma Slave. That whole soundtrack slaps.

[@kristophsams5036]

I actually loved this movie. It was an inspiration to me as I was in animation school when it came out. I loved the art design, always loved Don Bluth's work. Maybe the script was bad, maybe other factors made it crap. But all in all, I still like it despite the box office performance. I still watch it every time its on TV. I'll agree the blend of CGI and hand drawn art wasn't a good choice, but I can look past it most times even to this day.

[@KitKatWiffleBallBat]

I respect your opinion and viewpoint, my guy. No sarcasm, I promise. I was born in 1990 and watched this in like 2001 I think. Yeah. It was always a pleasure to watch. It kinda set up The Matrix series for me back then. Anyone who hasn't seen it, really should. It's not that bad, really. The animation was really cool at certain points.

[@kyotheman69]

people had weird tastes back then, it was strange time, nice that someone at lease got good experience out of it, i still don't get the hate for this movie.

[@dreamguardian8320]

Don Bluth is truly a great animator. If only his other movies were great, then we would have more of his animation.

[@kristophsams5036]

@@KitKatWiffleBallBat I think if it was remade today, it should be totally live action or maybe a series. I felt the pacing was a little too fast. As he said, they should have focused a little more on the plight of the human race after their planet's destruction. We did get to see a drifter colony, but maybe the dredge shouldn't have been the only enemy after them perhaps. Space pirates or mercs hired by other races to snuff out the last remaining people. I don't know. I guess the main reason I liked it was it appealed to me as I was born in the early 80s. I loved all the fantasy and scifi movies and tv shows I had growing up. This was just something I had not seen since Heavy Metal (not the sequel ugh) and it felt akin to it somehow.

[@KitKatWiffleBallBat]

@@kristophsams5036 A TV series would be perfect for this type of adaptation. That way they could really get into the history/lore, the backstories, the overarching theme and plot of Titan A.E. Live action would be cheaper and more forgiving in terms of recreating the visual aesthetic of the characters. If they did an animated version, they would really need to seriously readjust the entire approach because of the whole "budget" and "bad choices" thing that occured during the first attempt. Therefore, I would say live action is the better choice of the two. That, and the fact that animators are typically, criminally underpaid in many cases. But I would absolutely love to see a new animated version. It's just not written in the stars.

[@chris7263]

aw, I remember really liking this movie, in spite of all those flaws. The early scenes of Kale being in this dead-end job as the planet-less, discriminated-against human, with that "Cosmic Castaway" song in the background, was just. Such a strong mood to open with, it stayed with me. Came back to me, even, when I entered the job market in 2008.

[@FirestoneX]

But I liked the movie. Remember folks, they call things failures if it doesn't make enough money. But also remember most kids don't go to the movies all that often or buy vhs tapes...the vast majority will see a movie or show on TV.

[@thekodex1186]

Yeah, would probably do better today

[@-Shinoray-]

Exactly. At that time my Patents haven't Had enough Money to See a lot If movies in the Cinema. I watched this movie First time in TV. And hell i stayed secretly awake to watch it again in the late night repeatition. I found it that good.

[@HerbaMachina]

@@-Shinoray- it was my go to movie. I loved it. The story and characters are great. I'll forgive that last shot of garbage 3D animation of New earth given its time period. The movie is still fantastic.

[@pokevonforretress3761]

Agreed, in the words of Dr. Dee, “you can’t have progress without failures.”

[@TheDr502]

They'd probably stream on something like Roku or Netflix it rather than watch it on TV.

[@knightofdrawnschooltables]

As a child i'm fine with it but now, still fine with it.

[@GakuseiChatto]

Yes good movie

[@trundenthebad]

Idk what you’re talking about, Titan A.E. Was literally my favorite movie growing up! I still really love it.

[@NAMLzz]

Literally half of these fucking KZbin’s don’t explain in full detail what Aspects they don’t like about the film and when they do they just copy and paste what the other guy said in his vid. I just watched a vid where this fucking guy is angry that kale saved Korso the way that he did on the titan but completely ignores that this shows kales growth as a person/human being and valuing life much more than he did before even if they double crossed you. This level of strength is what moves korso to have a change of heart.

[@littlebigfoothunter]

despite it's many flaws (especially in the animation bit), i still found it to be a enjoyable movie as i always loved some of the space-fairing types of movies and titain a.e. had this strange charm to it. And the concept the story provided was one of many inspirations for the two big projects i'm working on now.

[@GothVampiress]

As a former kid Titan AE was targeted to, I can say with certainty I would like to see gay people floating in space. Thank you.

[@RiveroftheWither]

Bro it's fricken 2021, how do we not have gays floating in space already!?

[@tccasanova]

@Deso Lark Nah, gay people are already beautiful. Seeing them in space would also be beautiful.

[@meep9231]

@@tccasanova that is very true

[@ScornfulEg0tist]

She-ra exists to be fair

[@DawgBarkz]

aesthetically speakin' korso and kale counted for me LOL

[@KsilVR]

"This was a genuine attempt that failed." - Every relationship I've ever had

[@osets2117]

I felt that

[@Nash1t0]

That's rough buddy

[@monikasantorova8238]

Funny is you never had any

[@Roeclean]

Huh

[@Roeclean]

@@monikasantorova8238 bold of you to assume that 😑😑😑

[@brandonbohan7281]

Treasure planet getting the credit it deserves, ten years later, in a video about a Titan AE

[@HarlenEAP]

Treasure island getting the credit it deserves, through an out of place sci fi movie adaptation through a titan AE critique video on a random youtube channel

[@amandalicorne7769]

I actually liked it. I wish they could have left room to tell us more about some of what was going on, such as the batline aliens that helped Cale and the aliens that were trying to kill him

[@vampireinsomniac2251]

I found this movie in the grandparents' house a few years back. I took one look at the cover and instantly knew Don Bluth worked on it.

[@ChohatsuSensei]

I don’t care what anybody says, “Remember the Titans” and “Attack on Titan” were awesome sequels! Also don’t forget the 2018 movie “The Titan!” :P

[@tastyfresh4482]

and Titan Quest, the videogame adaptation

[@TrollingWolfGaming]

Can't forget about the prequel, Teen Titans!

[@leffa1]

And that Will Smith movie, After Earth

[@alfiona7951]

If this was someone's passion project, it would be better. It feels like people were pitching ideas, they collected them and gave it to the director.

[@okiedokieartichokie772]

I don't care how bad it flopped. I freaking ADORED THIS MOVIE.and I listen to the sound track to this day. I freaking love every minute of it.

[@artemismoore4176]

I loved that movie as a kid, didn't even know it was a financial failure I guess, that's my everlasting love for edge speaking

[@artemismoore4176]

@Jordan Winders My favourite movies were Children of the Rain and Kaena Would be great if Saber reviewed those too

[@awesomesauce5974]

I personally loved Titan A.E, still remember many scenes from the film.

[@thekodex1186]

I thought it was alright

[@luisthekingjaime94]

I love this movie

[@lProN00bl]

I CHIME IN "HAVEN'T YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF CLOSING THE GOD DAMN DOOR?!"

[@NPC-nn4qe]

No, it's much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.

[@bajablastluvvr69]

@@NPC-nn4qe aGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN

[@Radien]

Why the Panic quote?...

[@NPC-nn4qe]

@@Radien I was wondering the same thing, but then decided, "fuck it," and replied with the next line in that song.

[@renegadesanimated9829]

@@Radien maybe because Saber was talking about the guy leaving his door open

[@ajallen212]

I had Titan A.E. on DvD, I watched that movie SO MANY TIMES. It even included directors cut things like storyboarding, and trivia on the universe. I loved it so much. Sadly lost the DvD in a fire years ago, but It still lives on in my heart.

[@DragonRebelRose]

I hate that Don Bluth ripped off his own character design of Dimitri, gave him a blonde hair dye and muscle shirt and called it a day. My boy Dimitri deserves better than that.

[@dreamguardian8320]

Come to think of it, they do look a little identical. I never really payed attention to that, until now.

[@artemismoore4176]

Damn I'm blind, I never noticed, now I can't unsee it

[@samamies88]

Dragon Lair character and the kid that can turn adult in that other animated Don Bluth QTE game have same haircut and similar face too

[@saltypretzel4959]

The prince from Thumbelina also has a similar look...not exact, but like a younger version of the same character design.

[@LucyLioness100]

Sounds like Don was copying the Disney “recycled animation” formula with his own character design. Just different voice actors for the films 😉

[@LanceTheManipulor]

I see this movies many, many, MANY flaws, but for some reason, I can't bring myself to even think negatively of it. It was actually one of my favorite movies for a very long time.

[@alexboehm3919]

God I remember this film. Honestly I’m quite fond of it, possibly due to the blending 2D & 3D animation style that is a staple of the time period where this film was made. Or maybe it’s because I’m a big sci fi fan. Either way, it’s a cool film worth checking out! Great to see this video!

[@erardbowdragon5475]

Literally watched it yesterday! A group of friends I play a sci-fi RPG with were talking about it, because the GM based a race of aliens off Stith, and I had no idea what it was. They recommended it. I thought the movie was a really cool premise with a pretty strong start. It suffered from a lack of direction in the middle portion and had a mediocre end. Overall I give it a 6 out of 10 worth a watch if you enjoy sci-fi, animation, and the early 2000's.

[@LadyViscera]

I’m convinced the words “After Earth” are just cursed

[@njnjhjh8918]

omg you're right

[@thekodex1186]

Pretty much

[@seantaggart7382]

Well still the plot of this movie is crazy Because Many people have that fear The fear of losing their home The earth is our only home If we lost it? Well It would be Scary

[@alw2839]

@@seantaggart7382 we still haven't built a colony outpost on another planetary body. If earth gets f'd WE ALL get f'd, yes even you reader with super bunker with 20 years of food.

[@seantaggart7382]

@@alw2839 yeah Even id fear it

[@DebbieDickens]

A.E really stood for "Admirable Effort".

[@TheFukkles]

underrated comment

[@mikkoeskola2787]

that´s really good

[@3starsburningbright]

Someone I once saw had the watermark A.E (for artistically engaged, their username) on their artwork so whenever I hear A.E I think of that

[@fishushu]

More than a decade later and I still have the OST of Titan A.E. in my head, phone, mp3 player, and pretty much any media I can have it play. Also have the physical book of it that I pestered my mom to buy from a garage sale, have the VHS of the movie and a couple of posters.... yes, I was and still am a fangirl of this movie. And yes, I can still critique this movie even though I love it.

[@rockhound3.14]

DITTO!

[@nikolasgilliam4666]

I see you

[@KitKatWiffleBallBat]

I liked it too. I'm not so picky. To be fair, this is Saberspark's thing. If he doesn't get it out, he starts to get pouty and lethargic. Haha kidding. But I do like this movie. When I first watched this in like 2001 or so...I can't remember since it was like a lifetime ago, I did enjoy it. My brain couldn't pick it apart through my "intellectual writer's perspective". I liked the story and the characters. Anyway, this was fun to visit again. What a corridor of memories!

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

"I'm in Over my head" is awesome, but nothing beats Not Quite Paradise.

[@monsterhunter66]

Same

[@BRONCOJUGGALOTALKSMOVIES]

I love Titan AE, when this movie came out it was just the right amount of Star Wars and Heavy Metal for those of us that were teens in the late '90s and I believe this movie really found its home on DVD. It's a lot better than people want to give it credit for.

[@torgan]

They called it "Bob," I can't believe they called it "Bob."

[@ohryan9872]

Oh so your the ruler of planet "Bob" now

[@nikolasgilliam4666]

God why was that shit so funny when I was 11

[@clearcat7296]

Me and my best friend in high school would just call things bob when we didnt know thier name, then we watched this movie, best part of it, roared in laughter, it was like a personal joke on the big screen.

[@iPitafish]

Honestly, that was one of the only things I remember from the film aside from Nathan Lane's heel turn.

[@Kartoffelkamm]

I think it was genius. The guy is a simple man. He doesn't have any big plans, he just wants to survive, that's it. And him naming a planet Bob, especially after all he went through to make it happen in the first place, just really drives that home, now that I think about it.

[@freezasama5802]

It's a shame how always the first type of each style of movie it fails

[@klg9549]

It's like making pancakes, I guess. The first ones you pour onto the pan are gonna turn out a bit wonky.

[@ericvisser5253]

It’s either that or it will become a cult classic down the line when that style matures

[@Hirabeatz]

@@ericvisser5253 the star wars prequels and gremlins 2 were considered ass and are now classics it's a shame to see that they dismt see that when the movie were being made

[@DeevilSpork]

I still unapologetically love this movie. Still have the cheesy lil book that came out with it too

[@EmaRussoUltra]

There’s a book?! I NEED IT!

[@DeevilSpork]

@@EmaRussoUltra homie there's a couple. One that follows the events of the film, one called Cake's Story and one called Akima's Story. :) I got mine from one of those book ordering magazines at school when I was a kid. I only got the follow along novel, so I don't know if the other two are good or not. Akima's seemed interesting.

[@DeevilSpork]

@@EmaRussoUltra *CALE dumb autocorrect lol

[@EmaRussoUltra]

@@DeevilSpork here in Italy the best thing i could find was the DVD, it already had a lot of stuff, didn’t think to look for more... especially since the game the credits alluded to was never made.

[@DeevilSpork]

@@EmaRussoUltra I understand. I'm sorry there wasn't more available. 🥺

[@cowsquid8859]

My mom showed me this movie when I was a kid and is still her favorite animated movie to this day. I still love this movie despite its flaws, but that might be due to my thick nostalgia goggles. Akima was actually my first crush and DEFINITELY is the cause for my taste in women today. This movie holds a very special place in my heart.

[@Aveeabobia]

"bet you wont get that in the lion king" you WILL in tarzan though

[@falsehoodintensifies445]

The dude's hanging shadow with the vines traumatized me for 20 years

[@dimitrescu182]

@@falsehoodintensifies445 kid me was disappointed that they didn't show his body

[@seantaggart7382]

Disney: STOP WE DO IT SO BOTH ADULTS AND KIDS CAN LIKE A MOVIE me: THAT DOESNT MEAN HANG A GUY

[@alw2839]

@@falsehoodintensifies445 That was real???? Shit I must have blocked that trauma out...

[@CRohrscheib]

I loved this movie when I was a teen. To be fair, it had some good angsty romance that hit my 14-year-old self right in the teen girl feels.

[@ekaterinamendeleeva8395]

It's more an example of what I'd call "pre-romance". Two characters are clearly interested in each other and have some bonding moments, but never officially become more than friends. The audience is left to assume that it happens after the credits roll. Tron Legacy is another example. And it's GREAT, because it's the epitome of "show, don't tell".

[@maxxor-overworldhero6730]

"An intelligent guard. Didn't see _that_ one coming."

[@hornycrab176]

We vc are opposite

[@injusticevideos9459]

I for one, loved this movie, and still greatly enjoy watching it, I never new it wasn't well received. Also, you were confused about corso. Corso was a part of the Titan project, but didnt travel with it after earth was destroyed. With the earth gone, and the dredge seemingly the unbeatable rulers of the galaxy, Corso started to hate humanity, falling into the notion that humanity was worthless, and was never meant to go far. The dredge confronted him (they must have found out he was a part of the titan project, which was still a threat to them because they viewed humanity as their only threat, thats why they blew up earth) and corso, who didnt want to die but also didnt care if the rest of humanity eventually died out, made a deal with the dredge to find the boy who had the map, and use him to lead the dredge to the titan to destroy it. he tricked his entire crew into believing that they were actually against the dredge, to get cale and bring the map to the dredge. When it worked, and the dredge had the map, cale just needed to tie up loose ends. but the kid escaped and so corso chased him to the titan with the dredge on their tales. During the fight against cale where he was actually pushing back the dredge, taking over the titan, and seemed to be able to win, corso had a change of heart. he didnt think humanity would ever beat the dredge but cale was proving him wrong, and that realization that maybe, just maybe, humanity could in fact win out, gave him hope and so corso switched sides to help cale, destroy the dredge and put humanity back on the galactic map. Im sorry the story didnt entice you, but i guess i fell in just the right group for this movie. the humor, the story, the action, the characters, the dark and sometimes suggestive themes, the strong leads, everything about it was thoroughly enjoyable for me. This movie is a classic for me, and I actually enjoy Titan A.E. far more than Treasure Planet, and Titan A.E. is one of my top favorite animated movies of all time.