What…..The Hell….Old Gamer Edition Had….Issues |

[@mattparsons8914]

This toy is the perfect example of I am limited by the technology of my time

[@jupiter5673]

That's pretty accurate

[@katlyn3248]

It is the essence of that

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Nah, they had better engineered combiner toys from that same time period, just not Transformers. It's more the fact that they all look like they're built out of knives and bricks that makes them so infuriating.

[@decpticonscramble692]

Not just that. It also seems really cheap, and I think that’s due to the engineers getting used to an (at the time) recently lowered budget.

[@RadSco]

The budget cuts more like

[@TransformersMCfan6]

No matter how many fan modes you tried with this guy, this guy proved that the chest of a combiner almost ALWAYS needs to be voyager sized

[@krishacz]

unless the limbs are core/legends sized

[@transformnroll2752]

​@@krishaczagreed, I think they could pull off an updated Grimstone from PCC. Do a smallish deluxe with the feet and maybe the hands included, and do core limbs

[@yellowscarf8812]

I think budget wise yes size no they maby could pull it off

[@CryosisOfficial]

@@transformnroll2752 Nah, Grimstone needs to be a Leader-class with Voyager limbs that actually turn into robots.

[@transformnroll2752]

@@CryosisOfficial maybe, either way works imo

[@S0M3GUY778]

I really want an updated version of FoC Bruticus. He deserves way better than he got and the engineering has come a long way since the original was released

[@primusvsunicron1]

they want to at Hasbro

[@Lazrael32]

honestly for me it's more the crazy color schemes.

[@S0M3GUY778]

@@Lazrael32 game accurate Vortex I'm begging. The neon red and blue do NOT cut it

[@NightcoreBrawler]

I never got these Figures, so if they're to release an updated FoC Bruticus Set... It better use the Combiner Wars System

[@Lazrael32]

it's possibly, but it's more likely we'll get something closer the the more recent Menasor since that sold so well.@@NightcoreBrawler

[@carbful]

There was a 3rd party replacement Onslaught that made the combined mode amazing but it's incredibly rare theses days

[@DragoonMS]

That Military Titans set. Also had new elbows/arm extensions for Blastoff & Vortex...that have to be partsformed into place.

[@Coboxite]

As someone that owns the third party Onslaught it's really not worth hunting down unless you really like Foc Bruticus

[@MICjordanTPR]

@@Coboxite it was definitely worth it at retail, but not for the prices they're going for nowadays. For what it's worth though... I'm keeping mine, it looks awesome as Bruticus

[@Marcus-gw4bb]

@@Coboxite I don't care how expensive it is though. I missed out on it because of getting into the collecting space very late. I have been searching for nearly a whole fucking decade now. Do you know where can I find one? I have been searching eveyrwhere online but to no avail.

[@moonwhooper]

​@@Marcus-gw4bboptimus voice "ebay"

[@AceDantalion]

Lack of heels aside I adore that brawl mold, probably helps that he was one of if not my favorite decepticon character in the wfc foc campaigns.

[@a-silva]

Looking over the flaws of the entire set, these were some of my favorite transformers when i was younger. I remember 10 year old me saving up my money so could by each one over time. Now that I’m older (and have make money) I’m hoping to find one the upgrade kit that Peaugh reviewed years ago. I really can not believe I have owned my set for over 11 years now, crazy how time flies.

[@blastbot7339]

I was the same with combiner wars superion, putting him together over 2 years But oh boy that moment when I finally had 5 aerialbots and but superi together, was all worth it

[@Cheetor62]

It's funny how this bruticus looks like a few happy meal toys mashed together.

[@itsjust_zak217]

This definitely needs a studio series

[@dwtunchained217]

Considering how great the ss Devastator turned out, they could definitely pull off a legit Brutus now.

[@CryosisOfficial]

@@dwtunchained217 I wouldn't get your hopes that high. Recent figures have seen a noticeable drop in quality compared to those earlier SS/Siege trilogy releases.

[@WyattTFdude]

@@CryosisOfficialI literally buy all the mainline figures and there’s been absolutely zero quality drop. SS TLK Hotrod is a prime example

[@CryosisOfficial]

@@WyattTFdude Hot Rod was released ages ago lol Why don't you talk about an actual contemporary figure?

[@JayPlusForerunner]

​@@CryosisOfficialwell, that's just prime

[@MrFedoraFilm]

Fall of Cybertron Bruticus, in game... so awesome. In toy form... so awful. -The Combaticons design in game is cool. I know that it will be years away from now, but I'm looking forward to Hasbro redoing this combiner for the Studio Series gamer edition subline. Also a slim chance, hope that Hasbro considers remolding them to be the Wreckers that combine to be Ruination, from the Generations toyline.

[@straker454]

Those were dark times for Transformer collectors... Toys with bad joints, under sized, plastic as thin as tortilla chips and often broke like them too.

[@ThatToyGuy]

Lol the tortilla chips part made me laugh

[@MICjordanTPR]

The 3rd party version with the whole new large Onslaught (forget its name) actually makes the combined mode awesome (I have one)... but as you said, it's nearly impossible to get for a reasonable price nowadays.

[@DragoonMS]

Ahhh, yesss. The mass retail release, aka Fruiticus. Somebody at Hasbruh was clearly on something to think that this was a good idea. Takara put out a more accurate product, as usual back then, and Hasbruh did a half-assed "game accurate" version in Platinum Series. There was a third-party set, Military Titans, that had a Voyager sized Onslaught (in Fruiticus colors, sadly) along with Bruticus arm extensions/new elbows that you had to partsform in and out, and I think new feet. Sucks that they didn't do game accurate or G2 color versions of the set. Given how badly Gamer Edition Bumblebee and Megatron turned out? I have ZERO hope for any future entries in the line.

[@mega7157]

He didn't just come out in fruiticus colors he came with the alternative parts for platinum/sdcc

[@misterbadguy7325]

@@mega7157 Yeah, the problem is that Onslaught changes colors when he turns into Bruticus's torso. Onslaught in-game really is navy blue with bright green highlights, whereas Bruticus is mostly brown.

[@JM64]

Bumble bee and Megatron didn't even turn out that bad. Not flawless, but net upgrades to the original FOC line. And RotF Devastator came out fine so... Not to mention Hasbro has been upping their quality as of late so not all hope is lost.

[@shinzero0271]

I made the mistake of getting the FOC Bruticus/Grimlock set. The Grimlock was decent but his arms/dino legs were floaty as hell. Bruticus though... he has so many issues that even the 3P upgrade kits couldn't improve much more than the stability in the feet. This combiner needs a complete 3D-printed overhaul upgrade kit that might as well be the equivalent of Legacy Motormaster's trailer. I honestly didn't think they'd come up with a downgrade to the Energon era combiner design in terms of stability and general visual awkwardness. He makes POTP Volcanicus look stable.

[@connoreagle6843]

Hasbro has the potential to make an insane combiner Bruticus in the gamer line. The figures in this set do still look nice in alt mode, but aside from that, I’m not sure the other aspects are worthwhile at all. Blastoff looks nice at least as you stated.

[@Alzeal07]

honestly there is a way to transform each bot differently, making the combined mode look a LOT BETTER, especially putting Onslaught shoulders in vehicle configuration and having the blades make the chestplate

[@kingtfstopmotion]

15:31 why does the little baby bruticus arms make me laugh so hard XD

[@ShinyRowletGuy]

This is why I hope they make a proper ss gamer edition, these guys were so cool in game. I have fond memories of the Vortex level.

[@ItsameOPTIMUSPRIME]

Best level!

[@kevinp.h157]

As soon as I saw the thumbnail, I thought “yeah, pain indeed”

[@EricNewnes]

I mean how bad can old generations be ?: Proceeds to buy the entire lot of combiner wars

[@thefandomchannel7900]

I used to owned this and sold mine. Later I got myself the mastermind creations set.

[@worldssmallestdestron7819]

I want a new gamer edition bruticus SO BADLY. also, if they repaint said new bruticus into nexus prime, I will NOT complain.

[@d-os1.883]

I own a knockoff of this set, and each time i see a genuine one being transformed or whatnot, i get baffled. I really thought mine was totally borked, but no. The only actually missing thing on mine is the combine mode head just permanently stays on onslaught. Everything else is exactly the same and has exactly the same issues as the real one. 'Bit sad.

[@Toa_Va]

I used to LOVE this blast off figure when i used to have it so many years ago, to this day i still love him, just not the combination aspect of him.

[@boulder5540]

"You had the Energon ones, some G1 ones, and that was it." Where's the love for Rail Racer and Landfill?

[@AlexBeckwith-ns6gx]

My 13yr self some how found a way to make blast off look like the arm in the game i had the game accurate colored set without a kit

[@weik-2936]

I really do hope if we get a gamer edition Bruticus the 5 combaticons are voyagers (or in onslaught's case a voyager sized figure with extra stuff for the combined mode sold as a leader)

[@Renkencen]

I liked to think this was the precusor to the Combiner Wars combiners! Like making the torso bot as a voyager class and making the hand/ feet as a seperate piece instead of being build in! Sure the CW aren't perfect but could of been alot worst has they stuck to these version of combiners!

[@jangofett23]

Honestly, Onslaught was the worst offender of this group. The rest to me are fine for the most part. I was lucky enough to get not only the Platinum Edition set, but also the 3rd party Military Titans Voyager “Onslaught” for a proper WFC Bruticus.

[@bladester0128]

There were some things I did like about this, mainly that there was no parts forming in the combine mode, and though it couldve been executed better the way Vortex splits to reveal the elbow joint rather than just having the limbs form one like every combiner wars figure. There was some inovation here but it was limited by production cost (probably)

[@spinomitegames9000]

There's a recolor version which helps A LOT with making this look like actual Bruticus. This version gets called the Skittle Bruticus for that reason.

[@imm311]

That opening intro was dope! Great video! God bless you and yours! Praying for you!

[@havocmagnuseditz9507]

0:28 *wheezes*

[@puttster3]

I have the Takara version of this with the Boosticus set done for the Takara version, and I still think it looks amazing. I also have FoC Ruination, and the funny thing is, stock Ruination works better then stock Bruticus. I mean, the Brawl mold as an arm isn't all too poseable, but then you pay attention to the turret, and the Swindle mold actually makes for a great arm that looks like it can also shield. I have Ruination currently posed with my Wreckers collection, as if it is moving forward, right arm cannon facing left forward as the left arm is up to block any fire from hitting his face. One could also just use the Swindle mold and the Vortex mold as arms with the barrel part of Vortex sticking out instead of the hand.

[@sithspartan6248]

Knowing the Hasbro team wants to do an SSGE FOC Combaticons team gives me hope, they should all be voyager sized

[@brianblue2268]

My biggest complaint (mainly with blast off and vortex because the others are just brighter colors) is the choice to change their color pallets

[@Randomguy1ism]

Honestly...I acknowledge the issues these figures had due to the constraints at the time, but I still have the softest spot in my Heart for this cuz it was the first Combiner I had ever completed.

[@Ultracharge9]

Vortex for me is my favorite out of the ones i have (which are him brawl and blast off) You can have him hold the two swords in a darth maul way in one hand. And if youre physically playjng him. You can make him a menace My brawl version feels a bit loose around his legs so hes more flimsy. Blast Off is my 2nd favorite figure so far

[@anth4584]

Wow. I remember several years back, I just finished playing Fall of Cybertron, and someone in a Transformers group on Facebook was selling one of these in box. I didn’t buy, but I was thinking “That would be so cool!” But, this makes me very glad I didn’t buy that thing

[@samtheweebo]

Each one has a left hand, right hand, left foot, right foot all inbuilt so that's cool. No kibble outside weapons

[@joshshields9229]

The combination ports for the limb bots are also compatible with the power core combiner torso bots. I still have this set, as well as the PCC Combaticon. I still use the torso bot with the Combaticon limbs, just for something to laugh at.

[@CasualSoundwaveProductions]

Man that guy was my childhood 😢

[@lucasdunk2536]

I display this guy on my desk with my Legacy stuff, I don’t think he’s that bad, but he was also my first combiner as a kid (that wasn’t a Power Core Combiner).

[@grumpybutter7053]

I have always loved the fall for Cybertron game like it's still today my third favorite game of all time, and I was like 10 or 11 years old and I got this exact set. I believe the set was called like the Skittles edition or something like that, and I would not let go if them, from years of age. With these I think all I have left is brawl and half of vortex, those were my favorite Toys growing up

[@Marcus-gw4bb]

The Military titan upgrade is sold out completely everywhere. I missed out on it because I entered the collecting space very late and it still pains me till this day that I might never get my hands on him. Been searching for him for years now...

[@Loanstalker]

This was bad back in the day. Its even worse now lol. Really hope we get a gamer edition.

[@ALPAPOW]

Military titan had a great look in combiner mode. But every parts away fall when I'm try to move that part.

[@treebotreviews]

Still waiting for Planet X to grow some ball bearings and make a set. I don’t give a fuck how much it is. Lol

[@mega7157]

I am glad I was able to help design and get my hands on the military titans upgrade kit for this guy along with the Platinum release for the main figures hopefully we will get planet x soon

[@JunkJester6131]

I hope the modern Gamer Edition line covers the Combaticons and other FOC designs. They deserve far more than what Generations 2014 gave them. Probably won't outmatch Planet X's stuff, but at least SSGE will be at a cheaper price point.

[@heavyhitter5538]

I actually enjoyed this figure. Its because its in the SDCC colors plus the arm configurations. Just waiting for the boosticus upgrade and this will be awesome.

[@darkwind9000]

Honestly for the time I still find this to be a very enjoyable combiner!

[@OMGEPICJESH]

used to have that brawl as a kid, loved it to death and always thought it was really good, looks awesome too

[@Slimshadow457]

It's crazy because a week ago I finally found a Microblaze Military Titan on eBay and was going to snatch it up. I saw him at 3am. I woke up like 10 hours later and he'd been snatched up... (Taking this opportunity to ask if anyone knows where to get one or put out that if they're parting with theirs I'm ready and willing to buy) Honestly making Onslaught the Voyager and tweaking the limbs slightly would've gone such a long way back then to making this guy a pretty solid experiment towards what we'd get in Combiner Wars.

[@woundedzilla1517]

I have the platinum edition of this guy and you have no idea what game accuracy colors can do for a figure. The vehicle modes (except Onslaught) look great and game accurate. The robot modes… there eh I guess could be better but I like Blastoff and Brawl. And as for Bruticus I love it! He’s as big as a commander class and has good articulation and is accurate enough.

[@Auhso117]

I'll tell you what we DO need Onslaught. A long overdue Bruticus in the Gamer Edition already, gimme him!!!!

[@awesomeguy9513]

I have the G2 version of this and it’s something. I made a small “upgrade kit” out of poster board based on a small upgrade kit that’s out of stock and it works better but there’s still issues. The 4 limbs aren’t bad the robot/vehicles work alright blastoff looks cool and brawl has bad heels. Onslaught kills the set due to the old FOC figures all being deluxes due to wave design onslaught dosent have the bulk to make a proper torso so it’s very scrony and the vehicle sucks it’s a pile with wheels. This might be a hot take but if we do get a Bruticus it should be the FOC version first. It desperately needs an update and there is the gamer line to go along with Bruticus so it’s not just a stand alone thing, also if hasbro wants repaints there’s the neon/skittles version or ruination the original set was retooled into a wrecker combiner which had the same issues.

[@DJIdroneabout]

The plastic looks and sounds like the doller store transformers kos

[@studyguy.7660]

The military titans upgrade kit makes this figure god tier

[@KanakAttackChris]

I have the boosticus set on my G2 FOC brutiboy and it does SO much to help the figure

[@JDRider02]

I will be 2012 toy Bruticus' single defender (still, fantastic video tho)

[@Sunstreaker2k5]

This version is really hard on the eyes. The basic g1 style colors that Takara released, or that came in the box set with Grimlock, aren't nearly as garish. Doesn't make the set any better built but at least they look somewhat closer to their source material.

[@PhelesDragon]

6:30 is the only one of the set I kept...out of 2 complete sets of this thing. I also removed his combiner port and replaced it with a CW combiner stump, but that's a whole other story.

[@Cdr2002]

I had the platinum edition version of the set. Blastoff is the best one sure… but his arms got sooooo loose over time, and the shoulders would come off every time I tried to transform him. After a while I had to use the transformation joint for his elbows to not flop back down

[@roguedeathangel]

Now that Hasbro has set the standard by having a Studio Series Commander class I'd love to see this set redone as a Commander and four Voyagers.

[@lorddrakkon744]

This reminds me of mine. Every single one broke except Vortex, Onslaught lost his entire left arm, Brawl lost his head, and butt flap, Blastoff lost his arm as well, and Swindle lost his entire upper half. Man, these toys sucked

[@CHOBA_TEA]

They need ro remake this cuz it was honestly a great concept

[@Anur_Vladias]

Really wish that microblaze creations still sold their bruticus of this design.

[@kylesinkovich8332]

Honestly I think choosing Bruticus as the combiner in game was awesome as last time I saw him was in the G1 cartoon, so seeing him in game was awesome. But I honestly think it would have made more sense if it was Devastator in game. Not complaining, just a thought.

[@chadderbug7587]

Ah yes, my favorite Combiner cons: Crab, Mushroom, Potato, Slug, and A Car.

[@oliverwithers9736]

I remember desperately wanting to get this figure when I was a kid. I asked for him for around 3-4 Christmas’s and birthdays in a row. Never got him as “Fall ofcybertron bruticus transformer” doesn’t really make much sense to parent who know nothing about transformers.

[@cgrima117]

The issue here was not only technology of the time. It was also financial economic recession 2008-2010. Hasbro had to go cheaper so toys remained affordable cause there was no money around.

[@ixadorcraine6736]

I like the safe bet of 5-10 years but personally. I think he could be a Hassan where they can have that higher budget and go all out or. Are going to release him in the next 2 years figure by figure movie devastator/menasor style.

[@lekanraposte6732]

I first got the G2 version. It was bad. So I sold it. Years later, I got the "real colors" pack with Grimlock. It was still bad. And I sold it and kept the Grimlock. At least that was what gave birth to the stellar line, Combiner Wars.

[@roccotherayquaza2468]

Here’s hoping we get a gamer’s edition FOK Bruticus uncompromised

[@thecodfather6280]

It’ll be compromised. Every non masterpiece combiner is. What matters is that they make sure that the compromises are easy to overlook because the rest of the toy is so good.

[@roccotherayquaza2468]

@thecodfather6280 Well, I meant more like what we have here with the 2012 Bruticus, I don't want to see a repeat of this

[@Dark.Shingo]

18:11 Man... one looks like one of those brick phones, like a chunk of plastic, which is not fun and the other like it will snap at any moment, which isn't fun either. Like the two extremes of the spectrum.

[@Maximilian7992]

I only ever had Blast Off, Brawl, and Swindle. I wish I had the rest and gotten the upgrade kit.

[@ВасилийМорозов-л7х]

I bet you've not seen the Chinese 'Gift Set' version. It's all hollow shampoo plastic, strangely painted, includes TWO Brawls and no Swindle, while Onslaught is terribly deformed and has only Bruticus' head.

[@wendyhotchkiss7772]

18:50 I have experienced the Military Titans set, myself, and it still didn’t completely save this combiner in my opinion. The new Onslaught had these horrible squeaky joints, and the Bruticus mode was still a little unstable. In all honesty, just forget these old figures. FOC Combaticons need all new molds to do the design justice. Voyager Onslaught and Deluxe Swindle, Vortex, Blast Off, and Brawl; or don’t even bother trying.

[@ericliu8488]

Boostus is a must, makes this guy look so much better.

[@SlowpokeWooper21]

I really hope we get a gamer edition bruticus so that we can have a good toy of this version of him

[@EmeralBookwise]

Flawed as this set might have been, I think it was an important first step in eventually getting us to Combiner Wars.

[@Itransformit]

I love those robots, especially in those colors (there are two other variants too). Really nice looks, but designs could be better and I agree that the combiner isn't good.

[@cutercills9x9productions9]

This might be a bad figure, but like Ultimate Optimus Prime, I actually enjoy it, though this is mainly because it was one of my first ones when I started collecting more. And recently I made an upgrade kit, which the review can be found in my 3rd channel. Glad I finally was able to cover up those Onslaught arms that made it look like he was wearing oversized shoulder pads while being handcuffed.

[@RexFilmsOfficial]

I am both looking forward to and dreading when Hasbro eventually tackles Bruticus again in SS gamer edition

[@OracleOfTheOasis]

I remember I wanted this so bad back in the day, guess I wasn’t missing much 😷

[@RacoonCityPizza]

Insane how we got amazing figures in 2009, and this thing was worse than any of the figures released years before this released.

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

I wish we could get a remake of this combiner in Studio Series Gamer edition

[@UnofficialJCDeenton]

I used to want collect all of them as I only got Onslaught and Swindle, however I broke the leg ball joint for swindle as it became too tight

[@UnChannelDuVulpineX]

I like the colours and the shapes of these figures.

[@superdraco3807]

There was a 3P Onslaught that looked great, but its quality left much to be desired

[@justintalorico]

That intro was beautiful

[@magic00squirrel]

Lol. When I was younger I wanted this guy so bad but looking back, especially considering all the great SS figures I have now, I’m glad I never bought him.

[@johngolles342]

You misstransformed brawl’s leg mode, you’re supposed to rotate his tank barrels so the inward facing pegs face the leg so the backflap can peg in

[@AdrianCeroni]

I remember not getting this because it came in a boxset but in G2 colours and the price didn't match the scale for me personally. I still wouldn't mind a copy, so I might see if they do a SS version or something.

[@That_One_Gaming_Guy]

Yo, Onslaught sounds like a chill guy

[@therailfanman2078]

Hopefully, if they make a new version, its given the proper budget

[@misterdarwin]

Normally not a fan of negative reviews, but when they deserve it they deserve it. I LOL'd at "he has good articulation but its not where you think."

[@jzglazier8999]

Ik this isn’t the best combiner, but I love it so much. I remember finding the platinum edition vs grimlock in toys r us as a kid lol.

[@TheLukemcdaniel]

There's an upgrade kit that completely fixes this. I believe @Vangelus did a vid for it back when he did good videos.

[@unnamed12346]

I wonder what a SS:GE Bruticus would look like in this scenario... Honestly I kind of just want all the designs in toy form (But given as much love as Optimus compared to Bee and ESPECIALLY Barricade)