What the HOME-GARDENER Can Do To Protect From GMO Seeds | Pantry Chat Podcast

Learn about Baker Creek heirloom seeds (‪@RareSeedsBC‬) and their commitment to the Safe Seed Pledge, and you'll see why Homesteading Family has been a loyal customer for over 15 years.
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0:00 - Introduction
3:53 - GMO Tomato Seeds
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[@ABCDEFGH-kk8ln]

Save the bees, save the seeds! Thank you gentlemen for uploading this air clearing interview.

[@jameswengerd244]

There needs to be some laws passed to protect the home gardens to protect from cross pollination lawsuits

[@loboalamo]

And counter sue for cross contaminating seeds you save for your productions of breeding your own varieties.

[@reidweaver]

My issue is living next to farmland that is rented out and the guy sprays everything and then grows silage. We can’t grow corn at all, it gets cross pollinated but I also can’t get certified as organic either. He thought a 30 ft. buffer should be good enough. I guess he didn’t account for the wind. 🙄

[@christinedavis3417]

@@reidweaver yes, that is so sad. People just don't care and forget about the wind and the bugs.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

@@reidweaver Ask him to plant some fastigiate coniferous trees. It may block the sun, but it should also block the pollen

[@user-nw5cr1tl6j]

I love getting seeds from baker Creek. Their catalog is amazing

[@jerseygirl5486]

I have bought seed from alot of different companies and by far, Baker Creek has the best quality seed out there.

[@catherine6802]

I bought a large number of seeds from Baker Creek this year and am planning to save. It's important to take these measures with heirloom varieties as we don't know what the future holds. Also, I may add the shipping is free and the packaging is attractive.

[@billierichter1379]

Yeah, good luck with that. Their seeds used to be great, but they've gone down hill since 2020. I, and many other gardeners, have received the wrong seeds many times...not the wrong vegetable, but the wrong variety. My guess is that they stopped training their seed-savers correctly, and some of the varieties were cross-pollinated.

[@rebeccajohnson3402]

Shouldn’t the GMO seed producers have to insure that pollen drift will not contaminate other crops?

[@reidweaver]

In Maryland it is illegal to seed share with friends and neighbors. You can only get heirloom seeds through places like Baker Creek Seeds or actual exchanges. I worked for Landis Valley Farm Museum in their heirloom seed project. At home I have switched from air drying to freeze drying my seeds. Moisture is removed quickly and then I package with Oxygen absorbers or silica gel packets. It works well!

[@sunshinegardener1189]

Seed saver exchange has many seeds with no controversies…

[@tanarehbein7768]

The scary part is the possibility of cross pollination of the old varieties with the new GMO s.

[@enaid54]

I never really bought into all of the colored vegetables. There's just something not right about purple tomatoes, carrots, bell peppers and things with stripes. I like the old trust worth heirlooms.

[@annabelledrake2027]

heirloom carrots naturally come in a variety of colours. The orange carrots we see at the grocery store are a hybridized version.

[@lindalubben8779]

Not true

[@kathleenredick275]

I like the colored carrots. Each color tastes a bit different. Don't tell me I'm going to die from them. Most of my 'ancestors' lived into their 90s and early 100s. I'm in my mid 70s and doing well.

[@enaid54]

@@kathleenredick275 If it is heirloom, I'm all for it.

[@preppingmama]

Heirloom vegetables come in different colors. You’re referring to your programming via the supermarket if you think tomatoes should only be red.

[@lesliemelby7633]

Why is it ok for corporate owners of a patented GMO seed to bring a lawsuit against you when their crop contaminates yours? Gardeners who use GMO seeds should be required to cover their plants.

[@gjsmimi4474]

And who's going to police what people do in their home gardens?? The government??

[@lesliemelby7633]

I'm not asking for government intervention. I just feel it would be common courtesy for people who grow them to protect other people's gardens from cross pollination.

[@RoadKillsRanch]

I agree if you buy GMO, cover it up!

[@ASJSI]

I will tell you what people had better start saving the seed from their plants. Not only that they had better start obtaining utility patents for those seeds they collect.

[@outingsforoldladieswhoaren7664]

Great idea. Then maybe we could sue them for contamination!

[@sunshinegardener1189]

I used to order some of their seeds but there’s so much controversy surrounding their company between this tomato seed mess, the jab requirement, the native seed issue, etc. I think we will pass on buying from them in the future.

[@lindalubben8779]

From Baker seed for you mean?

[@sunshinegardener1189]

@@lindalubben8779 yep. There’s many other small seed companies we purchase from instead

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

"jab" Are you British? No? You may have been influenced by Russian propaganda. You may be entitled to compensation. Wear a respirator (reusable, elastomeric, P100 filters) next time you're out of the house. I think you'll find it a revelation. No need for a vaccine if there's a filter between you and any viruses real or imagined.

[@Cristina-gw5zp]

The problem is two fold (and should be discussed extensively and seperately): 1) genetic modification of food and other creatures. This seems to be side step the entire ethical conversation. How did we get here in the first place? There should be a full stop on scientific experimentation through human genetic manipulation 2) patents on things like food that everyone needs and uses and should have access to. It's like patenting air. Any attempt to patent organic substances like the genetic pool or like seeds, foods, animals etc. The fact that the legal system allowed this just screams the need to investigate those individuals bc there is probably a conflict of interest bw them and the companies that want it. There is no way to control plants that open pollinate!! It's stupid. The legal consequences should go the other direction. They should be sued for creating something that will negatively affect open pollinated and natural seeds. For ex, there are realy strict regulations for people who raise snails bc if one gets out there could be damage to the environment bc they would be difficult if not impossible to control. And people who want to raise them have to spend lots of money to ensure they don't get out into the environment. It's not the responsibility of the neighbor to build a wall to keep the snails out. This is clearly siding on the side of companies, again, at the cost of the rest of humanity! This has scary implications for free food, low cost food, food security etc What hypocrisy the powers that be insist there isn't enough food to feed the world, insist that regulations to control our behavior in order to protect the environment is necessary to be able to "grow enough food to feed the world" yet policies are being put in place to take agricultural land out of production so that food price is controlled and these same countries that need food can't afford to grow their own food so companies have an added excuse to grow genetically modified food and utilize mass production techniques that damage the environment, food quality and ultimately our health!!!! They are the only ones that benefit economically while the whole world suffers for it. Now they want to genetically mutated food into our free food market and then patent it so the rest of us can't legally grow or sell it. If you're not scared, I don't know what to tell you. So if the economy goes up (as it has before), if enough seed is contaminated and cross bread, we wouldn't be able to grow our own food. And there are lots of places in the world where people eat what they grow in their gardens!!!! Let's say we could afford to stand in line and get the food they sell us. What about them? Just makes your head spin bc they are trying to spin us around so much that we get dizzy and can't stand up against it. This is one tomato, one flower, one step of many. If we don't fight this hard and stop it now this is ultimately where they will take us. Whether our generation or our grandchildren's generation that is where this is going.

[@christinedavis3417]

So upset that I learned about glysophates from chemicals being so harmful to the soil and the body and then realized that I had been organic gardening for 10 or more years and learned that they had sprayed their lawns using chemical companies and sprayed roundup near the edges of my garden. Wouldn't plant a thing this year once the notice came in from the company that was going to spray the yard behind me. No matter how much I tried to talk to these neighbors about chemicals harming children and pets, they did not care.

[@outingsforoldladieswhoaren7664]

Tragically true.

[@sherryk30]

I have neighbors uphill from me that do the same and they don't care, either. Due to some excavating they did, the rainwater now runs directly to 4 of my garden boxes and the planting areas around them. I'm sick over it

[@carolhamilton5164]

I had a neighbor contaminating my Brussels sprouts two years in a row by spraying next to my fence. my husband told him he killed my Brussels sprouts to which he apologized , but sprayed again the next year. Not only did he spray by the fence and kill my brussel sprouts putt further down the fence, but also sprayed behind my garage and killed my elderberry. luckily elebeberry is invasive and we have new plants.

[@christinedavis3417]

Mine also built hers up at least 3 to 4 ft. so her water floods out my garden too.

[@christinedavis3417]

@@carolhamilton5164 that is so sad and yes, I have the neighbor on the side who did the same thing to my Rose of Sharons and my garden. One in back and one on the side, double whammy. LOL

[@permieforlife]

This is why I will never use GMO seeds. The companies are bullies. We need to be able to save our own seeds. You can't with GMO seeds.

[@TuckedAwayHomestead]

This is another incredibly informational video, thank you!!

[@HomesteadingFamily]

Glad it was helpful!

[@thisguy6817]

I love Baker creek seeds

[@windingtrailsfarm6918]

“ we got contacted…..thats our tomatoe” it should be “your Frankenstein genetics have infiltrated my farm” it is their responsibility to keep their contaminants out of our gardens! If a family owns a cat and it come poops in my garden that is their responsibility. They are liable not me.

[@bettypearson5570]

According to the government they aren't liable. It has gone to court when neighboring commercial farms who had always saved their seeds and their fields were contaminated by the pollen from the GMO fields. When their seed was tested it was determined that their seed had been contaminated but the court ruled that the farmer who had always saved seed had to destroy his corn or pay the GMO company for using the contaminated seeds and that it was the farmer's responsibility to protect his crops from contamination.

[@lizshoemaker8713]

This comment section is funny and ridiculous.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

Shelterbelt. Don't think I need to explain. You need, at first, a very high fence (this is the hardest part), and then you can take it down once you have trees that have grown well above the maize. Your plants can't wear a respirator like you can, so they need other controls to keep their air clean of any contaminants.

[@karynellinger769]

❤

[@GardenScraps]

"More importantly what Baker Creek is doing to keep GMOs out of the home gardener seed market..." LOL

[@joelleschmidt5944]

I would say please talk to your neighbors they may not know about this and be grateful to be educated about it I really don't know many people who are excited about gmo food, it's important to spread this knowledge and keep talking about it , communicate to as many homesteaders as possible because thru their youtube channels they are able to reach millions of gardners all over the world

[@christinedavis3417]

I did do that and they were indifferent and could have cared less.

[@tanarehbein7768]

Im curious ss to the nutritional comparison between the heirloom and the gmo tomato.

[@judylaparne9761]

No GMO for me. Never have used them. Just gather from the plant.. aka from the fruit of it.

[@susanhoskins5285]

I truly hope that Baker seeds has an undisclosed Form elsewhere. This would be further protection.

[@helenali6085]

I'm concerned. Some time ago I got free seed. Brandywine tomatoes, red, yellow, black and PURPLE??? Have we been given gmo seed hiding under the 'heiritage lable'? These came from a seed catalogue company.

[@LittleKi1]

Here's the bad news: a huge amount of the existing germplasm in organics has roots in various cultivars developed through irradiation and other forced mutations along with cell fusion. Most of your hybrid brassicas rely on cell fusion. The germ plasm has been modified by humans for many, many decades, way before transgenics. This is absolutely not a case for GMOs. Just know that almost nothing is as natural as it appears and it's important for a person to get a baseline understanding that plant breeding hasn't been farmers just selecting a few nice plants in a field for a very, very long time.

[@tanarehbein7768]

Let's not encourage further free fall from what God put here for us to survive on.

[@loboalamo]

Its going to get harder as time goes to filter GMO’s.

[@loboalamo]

Looks like my 1st comment was taken dow yay!! Sorry about that i should just listen … then comment if it hasn’t been addressed. Super sorry. 😏

[@johngaltman]

When do people become patented GMO and the property of a company, rather than the property of themselves?...

[@albowrx]

Yeah, I don't buy the story. If it was TESTED. Not to mention they mandated the coof19 jab for their workers. Is this a poor attempt at PR?!

[@johnparkhurst825]

Why would BC take a chance on something that could ruin their business? They neglected to exercise more caution. It doesn't mean they sold out.

[@albowrx]

@@johnparkhurst825 I don't know man, but what i do know is that that they said they tested it for GMO strains. The lie still stands.

[@johnparkhurst825]

@@albowrx I guess I didn't come away with that but perhaps I missed something . As for the jab haven heard anything about that. If it were true I'd be disappointed .

[@loboalamo]

On the cover of BCS catalogue is the purple galaxy tomato which they pulled ..when they found it was GMO a product sold to them as an heirloom. Is my understanding. Correction: they advertised it as a new purple tomato non-gmo. And noted that they had not recieved the test results back as the catalogue was going to press.

[@sweetmtnhome2617]

How do you know they required employees to get the jab? Was that before or after RFK Jr spoke there?

[@dianaspaw4875]

Their seeds are awesome. However they made their employees get the jab. That's very disappointing and even though they have wonderful seeds, I will not buy from them because of that reason. There are plenty of other good seed companies.

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

Bigot!

[@mio.giardino]

He mandated the jab for his employees, he has lost my business forever. The purple tomato incident was the frosting on the cake on that decision for me.

[@Forevertrue]

Where did anyone get the idea GMO seed were bad? They use less water, less fertilizer, and more production, and fewer insecticides and are much better for the environment.

[@tanarehbein7768]

Better for the environment??? You mean the bees that are dying and the butterflies so confused by non natives that they cannot find usable necter? Or do you mean the actual poisonous plants for humans that are being crossed with our food crops so they can withstand the poisonous herbacides being sprayed on them so we can eat them and die of cancer? I sound like an alarmist but the research is out there. How about the pyrallids they say go right through the farm animals and us without harm(???) but kill our food crops from compost contamination? Or maybe you are thinking it is better for the environment to spend all kind of extra time, money,and greenhouse gasses to manufacture, test, ship, spray, cultivate, cross things that need manipulation, advertise, print amd package, ship again, and hire lawyers (just in case), then prop up the drug and medical industry (because people are sick from their food and commercial production practices). That sounds like environmental and cultural improvement. Oh, an I forgot to address the waterways, and fish contamination, and associated soil contamination from tun off. All because we think we are smarter than the natural environment and need to save it with our selfish monetary motivated "science".

[@kmwheeler6]

My family will never buy from Baker Creek again.

[@johnparkhurst825]

Why?

[@lesliemelby7633]

Why are you saying this?

[@kmwheeler6]

I don’t know if I trust them anymore. For many reasons.

[@sophiesnuffy2563]

Good grief. You are sold out of so much.

[@dianevictorianshabbyshop3876]

If it is not from God, I don't want it.

[@tourmaline7742]

As someone who is excited about it, I’m really disappointed Bakers Creek isn’t able to offer their purple tomatoes. I would have liked to grow both to compare them. I understand GMO, and I do want it😂 The purple pigment is natural. How is it dangerous or “too quick”? They’ve been researched for longer than I’ve been alive. Most people eat GMOs every day. Have you eaten anything with high fructose corn syrup this week?

[@billierichter1379]

No, I don't eat any GMOs, and I haven't eaten HFCS for many, many years. In fact, I haven't eaten any sugar for over 7 years. I'm not doing that bull crap to myself.

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

No. I avoid processed foods.

[@tanarehbein7768]

Nope, and you shouldn't either

[@NamiNoKanki]

I’ve suspected for a while but this seals it. Your Chanel is doing well and I’m happy for you, but it seems that you’re letting sponsors lead you around by the nose and it’s going to hurt your credibility. You’re credibility is what made your channel so good.

[@HomesteadingFamily]

Bakers Creek is not a sponsor, and we are not their affiliates. But they have led the way in helping keep heirloom seed available for home gardeners, and we are thankful for all they have done for home gardeners.

[@loboalamo]

@@HomesteadingFamilyI agree. Thank you for putting this up. We are going to have to pay attention.

[@loboalamo]

Good thing Baker Creek is paying attention. An honest enough to call our attention to it.

[@quebirt]

It hilarious how many people don't understand genetic modification at all, but they buck science/scientists as if they are somehow smarter, more informed, or something. And I bet most of them eat bananas, broccoli, or some set of the hundreds of things that only exist because of genetic modification. Here's a bombshell for you people, you've bought a brand. The whole no-gmo/organic thing is basically a name-brand. It's marketing. Sure, it feels better if things can be cleaner. I certainly enjoy the food I grow more because I do keep things as natural as possible. However, there is A LOT of science and centuries of agriculture that back up the way we feed billions of people. Organic/non-gmo bs is not sustainable. You are the product here.

[@karenholsopple6388]

Are you talking about hybridization? Because hybridization is NOT the same thing as GMO.

[@stephaniejackson8555]

Remember they call it the "science of medicine". Gauge if the risk vs reward is worth it.

[@annabelledrake2027]

literally. Any seedless Banana has been genetically modified.

[@LittleKi1]

​@@karenholsopple6388 No. They are probably talking about things that aren't transgenic but are still very invasive to the cell, such as cell fusion, irradiation, mutagenesis, and so on. People aren't aware of the last century of plant breeding techniques....

[@tanarehbein7768]

I think the point is to do the best you can with the knowledge you have. I'm thankful for this video.