What the HUGE Diablo 4 Patch Means for Each Class

[@mha109]

What’s up with the sound going silent here and there, or is it only me?

[@DivineSpirit]

It's not just you

[@defebril9tor]

he forget pop filter.

[@unsane604]

Yup sound goes down, I'm guessing whenever not talking directly into the mic.

[@Mike_The_Lord_Of_Pink]

Yea i was about to write this myself

[@dethsightgaming]

looked at the comments to make sure my audio wasn't messing up lmao. it happens.

[@Priest4357]

Just want to say, after years of watching your weekly KZbin, I still look forward to it every single week. Thanks for sticking with us all these years!

[@Rhykker]

You're the best!

[@engladtur]

I'm thinking to myself every week, I hope and pray this good fellow keeps these amazing videos coming. Thanks for the commitment ​@@Rhykker

[@chefnstrike]

What’s crazy is D4 S4 is literally just making the game properly with no mechanic for season. It’s better then all the other seasons.

[@JS8222]

We're getting close to where we should have been at launch.

[@NinjaNerosis]

Laughs in elixir of holy bolts lol...nah but that's more of a bug regardless for necro especially... they'll still be strong but we'll see if they're still s+ teir

[@georgewilliamgutarracampos6262]

@@nickjordan8996 Too much Otaku!!

[@justadarnminute474]

Definitely makes me feel jealous of people buying in to start with the expansion. They’re getting the best version so far without knowing any better

[@MagicalMajestic]

​@justadarnminute474 that is how gaming is now, patches, dlc, expansions ect. 9/10 times if you wait 6/12 months you'll getting a better game than launched. Majority of the time you'll pay less aswell, even if diablo 4 was amazing on launch it still should have only gotten better by the expansion.

[@Folgers333]

The fundamental flaw was, you can’t have D2 drops rates without a full trade economy

[@oonzpoonz69]

Bring back SoJs!

[@RedDragonFlayer]

Titan quest does it pretty well, and doesn't require trading

[@Jokerwolf666]

They've already done Paladin and Crusader. The only one missing is Templar which would also fill the sword 'n board role but they could add new ideas as well.

[@Kyduk]

One thing to note, Nahantu is a big part of Kehjistan. Kurast was a huge city in the heart of Nahantu, and when we were playing through Act 3 in Diablo 2, the jungle was actually the ruins of Kurast, which is connected to Travincal. The jungle grew because of Mephisto's influence. So in Act3 of D2 we've seen only the city and the Zakarum's main temple. Now with Nahantu we have a lot of potential for size. I also noticed how it feels like Mephisto is leading Neyrelle back to Travincal. Sure, in her mind she's looking for Akarat's tomb, but I think it's misdirection from Mephisto.

[@Daren1988]

I've been thinking the same, everything is planned by Mephisto. That explains how Inarius escaped, who was supposed to be under Mephisto's capture and being tortured.

[@utmastuh]

It's called diablo. Not mephisto or Lilith. They're just doing each prime evil for each expansion to make more $ on sales

[@nunyadayumbusiness591]

@@utmastuh New to the franchise & lore, huh?

[@LyneaSilver]

@@utmastuh Yeah you must be new here. We appreciate each of them getting screen time though.

[@notyaboi2781]

​@@utmastuhthe last boss of diablo 2 is technically baal.

[@alcovitch]

@@nunyadayumbusiness591 Maybe you're new. DIablo is the most cunning of the 3. All the plot and machinations up to this point have ALL been his doing.

[@yshomatsu]

for the open world, I would love to see the strongholds that don't becomes towns have unique/random events. Like monsters would take those spots back or each season have different things happen in those spots after you take them over for the first time.

[@thruntroll2983]

Maybe it was a fever dream but I thought I saw devs talk about that sort of thing before the game even released. I remember them saying we could clear spots for new "towns", but I could've sworn they said there would be a back and forth.

[@yshomatsu]

@@thruntroll2983 if they did say that it was most likely just talk of possibilities and not (yet) plans for the game. Hopefully it does happen cause that would spice up the open world

[@sanctumknight3945]

Knight penitents are right there!

[@Peter-qq3io]

This

[@vertigowren6919]

This seems the easiest way to bring in a sword and board. Even the background story would be easy. Knight is fed up with the church or he learns Mephisto was orchestrating the entire thing.

[@superpatoreviews8167]

THIS! And they have fantasy mechs!

[@kylesmith987]

My issue has nothing to do with them bring a new class to the expansion, it has everything to do with them constantly and arbitrarily limiting every single diablo game to 5 classes on launch. There is zero reason a paladin arch type class was not available on launch especially when you have a game like diablo with soo much legacy and lore to it. D4 should have honestly launched with 6 or 7 classes baseline to cover all the expected arch types people would want that have been created over the years of diablo games.

[@slickperspective]

​@@kylesmith987Bro, exactly. Rhykker already talked about this about a year ago, before D4 launched. Look at Poe2, with 12 classes at launch with more skills in depth, gems etc. How can they do it and Blizzars can't?

[@SkullTaker]

I don't think players hate the new class, but that we already have a "one with the earth" type of class with Druid. Paladin/Crusader class would've evened things out better at this point.

[@MrUnycorn]

I also find calling it a totally new class is a bit disingenuous when it feels like a variation of the witch doctor.

[@benj1b]

I hate it lol it doesn't look like it fits into the diablo universe at all. Idk maybe it'll be cool, but it doesn't look good to me at all

[@mleni12]

Tal Rasha thought he can contain Baal, Aidan thought he can contain Diablo, Marius caried Baal Soulstone all the way from Lut Gholein to Travincal, Now Neyrelle is just next human affected with soulstone.

[@xavierdoesntmatter]

The difference to me is those demons where all actually in their stones. Mephisto isn't in the stone. He is shown multiple times outside of it and even seems to have opened the red portal for her since it's not blue. That tells me the stone for him is more of a leash and that he is in control. On top of that she's talking about preparing for something that nobody else seems to know about. The same junk that the followers of Lilith would babble on about. Which means more than likely Mephisto made a deal with her and the crystal is just a physical object that helps him exit the hells and he has to remain near it but she is not even corrupted.

[@mleni12]

@@xavierdoesntmatter Prime evils are capable manipulating humans from the stones. Diablo manipulated Lazarus,Leoric and Albrecht deep from catacombs of Tristram catedral. Diablo was in the stone in case of Aidan. But Marrius caried empty stone that was used to contain Baal in Tal Rasha after Dark Wanderer (Aidan/Diablo) defeated Tyriel and set Ball free. Also in case of Mephisto - Neyrelle traped him into the stone, but since he is the smartest of all evils, that could be all part of his plan. She thinks that she is in control, but Aidan thought the same....

[@crashboredom2]

No Paladin, No Deckard Cain, No Tyreal, No Diablo. No set items. No cow level. No visiting Tristram. It just doesn't feel like a true Diablo game.

[@Weremoogle]

Needs Diablo more than anything else.

[@jonathanrothmare3509]

They will charge you 99$ preorders. For mephisto(vessel of hatred) Baal will have an expansion Diablo will have his own expansion

[@JKS62B50]

😂😂

[@ayelmao42069]

this is assasins creed

[@cannedsandwich8156]

We have the butcher? Many times a day, for... unknown reasons, lost in random dungeons, I guess? ...*crickets sounds*

[@woges5093]

Jungle Monk.

[@scottwade1054]

That is exactly what I think the Spiritborn is going to be! Can't wait

[@wa56ington]

so excited!

[@elibnem4126]

Nailed it

[@blacklily250]

And monk is just Chinese paladin

[@stevestrangelove4970]

healthy fit druid

[@Not____Applicable]

Mercenaries make sense but a group finder makes the most sense for raids.

[@Xtenz01]

Neyrelle can't be acting under Mephisto's influence . (i thought she was before i saw that vessel of hatred trailer) But in that trailer she says at the apex of Mephisto's influence over her " i may need some help" which means she always had her head and capacity to make sound decisions. She is then just a morron used as a plot armor. Which is stupid because she is supposed to be smart.

[@SkrzekuZenmasters]

It was extremely anti-climactic. Marvel laugh while being tormented by a demon... Neyrelle is definetly an idiot because it's badly written, there's not enough setup for her to be a stronger than the original dark wanderer and yet she's presented as she can laugh of Mephisto tearing her soul apart.

[@Kaldobsky]

Saying this game was ever like D2 and is now "moving away from being like D2" is some big-time corporate gaslighting

[@mapron1]

his understanding of grind in D2 and Uniques is laughable. If Rod made D2, than you got Tyrael's, Griffins, Jah rune and nothing else of value. And you grind for years without any rewards. D2 is awesome because it has constant progression in a loot D4 never captured and never will able in the future.

[@mapron1]

I feel like all Uber Uniques scheme was just big manipulation from blizzard. From making them unaccessible at the start

[@BardockOwns1985]

He also completely ignores trading and such. I have never had much issue finding almost all gear in D2 either by dropping it or trading for it.

[@BartimaeusAurelius]

I'm one of the guys who defended D4 BECAUSE I believed it was a step AWAY from D3. But once I add everything together from no runes to refusing to bring in the Paladin I can't anymore. They have us the rouge that nobody cared for instead of.the Amazon, they refuse to bring back the Paladin or some form of holy warrior, they cram the store full of overpriced cosmetics and don't allow to trade what we want. It's all too much. It's a shame because with this season D4 is MUCH better than it was but refusing to bring back the Paladin is the final straw. I know they said they weren't bringing back the Paladin but they should've given us some form of holy warrior or at least the Amazon who was in a fashion a holy warrior. I'm looking forward to poe2 with renewed interest and with VoH dlc with disappointment.

[@mapron1]

@@BardockOwns1985 I ignore trading too, never used. (fact is i 99% play offline, care only season resets for few days). And STILL D2 items is much much beter; because you get something exciting constantly, every item (white, blue, yellow) MATTERS.

[@kaelos4]

Demon Hunter name in Diablo can mean everyone. That's like main point of the game to hunt demons.

[@pitecusH]

Even Doomguy is a demon hunter. If not THE demon hunter.

[@Icytouched1337]

​@@pitecusH Hell's janitor.

[@Boneyard250]

Not really, cause that’s not why they’re originally here. But thanks.

[@guisantos2934]

More or less, at least we know that a demon hunter hunts demons, and the term "hunter" they utilize a range weapon. What does a spiritborn do besides being born a spirit or from spirits?

[@OMGclueless]

I think there's, like, some specific lore. Like any big beefy guy with an axe is a "barbarian" but only someone who is from the tribes of Mount Arreat who worships Bul-Kathos is a "Barbarian".

[@Shikyonaito]

I'm not going to lie, the fact that Diablo: Immortal got Blood Knight and more recently the Tempest classes yet we may not see them in Diablo 4 is wack af

[@gamblefurakagamblade9966]

That mobile crap can stay far away from Diablo 4 if you ask me. Besides, it's a different Diablo game, not 'Diablo 4 Mobile'.

[@Shikyonaito]

@@gamblefurakagamblade9966 clearly not understanding what I said... I want the classes, not the actual mechanics and systemic changes Immortal has. Reading comprehension is hard, I know

[@DenethorDurrandir]

If Diablo Immoral wasn't ruined by the p2w, it would genuinely be a better Diablo then D4

[@Shikyonaito]

@@DenethorDurrandir sadly, this is 100% true

[@marcusburnett3001]

Diablo immortal has also been out for longer. Didn’t it take around a year for Blood knight to come out? And same with Crusader in D3? I want tempest in D4, that class looks fun

[@TheAzureGhost]

On the Wings note. It would be nice to have some option to disable visibility of lore/immersion unfriendly cosmetics on other players... But i doubt the Salesdepartment would be okey with something like that.

[@mapron1]

That's whole point of cosmetics, so everyone can see my stupid shit and go to store. That how society works. If IRL we can disable visibility of Rolex watch on other people, no one would buy them. This is very specific predatory monetization ('my' was just figure of speech, I don't give a shit about cosmetics and dress like clown in games)

[@kendement071]

fomo hits hard eh?

[@TheAzureGhost]

which is why i said i doubt the salesdepartment would be okey with that (no showing off => less sales) but from a games immersion perspective it would be a nice to have option.

[@kuja5809]

But why does that bother you what skins people use .

[@TheAzureGhost]

@@kuja5809 dunno, i'm just not fond of having some green powerranger with dragon wings riding circles around me on their pink rainbowdash unicorn while i try to immerse myself in the dark fantasy setting of sactuario.

[@GorgonautAnimation]

As much as I think this is the best art design the series has had so far, I've been saying since the beginning that the carry-overs from D2 game design were an anchor around the neck of this. Much of D3's success is that its time from a new character to an interesting, comprehensible build and associated loot hunt is extremely tight once you know what you're doing - this makes it extremely replayable, which is simply a better game loop than grinding a slow trickle of new content for a 1 in a million chance at an item you only know even exists from outside-the-game sources. Also, and while I'm aware of the power-creep and build limitations associated with it, the lack of set armor to collect (and the motivating checklist) is a huge barrier to casual and intermittent play - my partner loves playing the game together, but she's never, ever going to spend hours every season designing a build and mapping out a paragon board, and so found the game unmotivating after a point.

[@girthpapi]

Funny, I feel the complete opposite. What you say makes D3 replayable is exactly what I find atrocious about the game. I much prefer the big hits of loot, but less often (like in D2) over the slow trickle, and it's not even close. Just thankful PD2 exists.

[@GorgonautAnimation]

@@girthpapi I'm sure it works for some people, but most people (even ARPG players) don't play a single game for thousands of hours, and a game designed around builds that gates key items behind that (plus RNG), is setting itself up for the kind of problems that D4 is now having to address.

[@Sknerus89]

@@GorgonautAnimation 1k hours into the game? I played for 2 full weeks at s4 lunch, had a blast. Got fully geared my 1 sorc, started lvling another when goblin xp bonus dropped, got it to max with different build, I doubt that's even 200h played. And... I feel like I beat the game over and over again. They changed their philosophy from lvling up to gearing up drastically. I remember S1, took me some time to hit that lvl 100. Now? Instant. Yep, there is a lot to do with tuning your gear, thats what keeps me motivated but then again, if I cared about getting the basic build together, I'd be long gone from this season after 7 days. D3 was extreme example and so was D2. D4 didn't land in between, it's where they should aim for, instead of 1 or another

[@GorgonautAnimation]

@@Sknerus89 Yeah, but how many Unique items did you end up with? That's the kind of grind-forever stuff the devs took from D2 for D4 and are now changing.

[@xZipkan]

The thing with the pit in D4 is not really the health and damage of the normal monsters in the pit, but the boss itself, like I clear the pit mobs in 2 minutes. but the boss seems like a huge jump in power

[@mattryan7124]

Two minutes for the trash, 10-15 mins on the boss🥱

[@elibnem4126]

Same problem

[@alcovitch]

The bosses are ridiculously overtuned. The red ghosts are the only thing that kill me, the boss itself is ajoke with a brick wall of HP.

[@Falthad]

@@alcovitch Would be better if sight wasn't such a problem on the mechanics. Sand colored floor with slightly lighter colored swirly being instant death is insane... not to mention the random uber lilith waves coming across.... I've just stopped at tier 105. I can do more, but I would like a better balance. I feel like I should ditch my build for something more boss oriented at this point.

[@Sknerus89]

@@Falthad Forget it, there is no real point pushing above 105. It's just a number at this point (beyond 101) and there is no leaderboard even (like d3 had one for GRS). The extra mats you get from 102++ are reduced, or w/e. I have a blast build that I am currently just trying to do faster and faster 101s xD I ran some 110 once, took me 6 mins (3 for boss) and I got 65 mats. 9 ranks of pit for 5 mats basically. Pointless :D

[@kevinbarney1639]

Ever time I hear the name spirtborn. Makes me think it's a spirt base class that embodies a spirt for power....

[@Jokerwolf666]

I'm thinking abilities that are tied to spiritually bonded animals that empower you to do attacks based on them. Possibly even different animal stances like the monks used to have in World of Warcraft.

[@TheAzureGhost]

Or someone who funktions as the mortal vessel of some higher spiritual being they bound to themselves, becoming the embodiment of an element for example.

[@astryl]

Not sure if you'll see this @Rhykker, but that is not the reason why people loved Diablo II. I don't know how Blizzard or Rod came to that conclusion and my only assumption is that they are or were not Diablo II players themselves. What people love about Diablo II loot, and why it endured for so long, was the loot was easy to digest and understand. It doesn't take a spreadsheet to understand what the gear progression is, or what your eventual BiS item will be. The existence of trading from the getgo of Diablo II also meant that it wasn't ONE player farming for three years, but an entire community farming repeatedly. This allowed people to gear up relatively quickly by trading SoJs or HRs and a little bit of luck. Absolutely no one in the history of Diablo II has ever been excited to run Travincal 50,000 times to get a HR. It has all the hallmarks of a game that is designed in two different parallels, one for solo play, and one for group play. Although there are D2 players that only have ever played solo, they are by far the minority. I legitimately have over 15-18,000 hours across Diablo II & absolutely would have bounced off of it if it took 3 years to get the loot I needed even 20 years ago.

[@Vell1981]

It doesn't matter if it is called raid or group activity both require more than one person.

[@AnoterosHershy]

I Issue with the Uber Uniques, Imo, is that there were/are so few other uniques to bridge the gap and many of which were either underwhelming, or required or your build was shite (looking at you Tempest Roar). Which takes a slot from your legendary aspect pool. Which on classes other than Barb and Rogue, meant a huge detraction from your characters power as some builds need every single Aspect slot to make their skills work right. and it felt bad if you didn't go that route.

[@Val-rb2uz]

Major item I disagree with you/Rod on in regard to Diablo 2 references is they never went far enough into D2 itemization. You can’t make items take years to find AND no trading. A big piece of Diablo 2 itemization is the economy. Implementing similar drop rates in a vacuum without considering the other elements of itemization within the game is either idiotic or they didn’t want it to work. In addition to that, the itemization was never fleshed out enough in D4 at launch to determine if something closer to D2 would work imo. It was a lot more similar to D3 or maybe D2 vanilla, but never made it far enough to be considered anything close to D2LoD.

[@GalileoVR]

I really think we should be able to get all slots on the paragon boards eventually. Balance would have to be cajiggered with appropriate content to allow it, but that is a whole lot of progression left out of end game. I don't see any downside. It would allow for more in game build discovery and not having the need to spend hours respec'ing and spreadsheeting because you can just ease yourself into a new build by continuing your paragon progression.

[@adamhenry9132]

Totally agree about the Spiritborn name

[@roberthiltz2741]

Mephisto is definitely being strategically patient… it’s his thing. I am happy with any new class as long as it has good movement skills like DHunter and Monk. Also, your audio is definitely waving in and out my friend. Thanks for all the updates and speculation! ❤

[@Gallaheim]

Wings were great in D3, but I don't really think they fit the aesthetic of D4. Should've just went with gilded cloaks and capes if they wanted something "flashy" but still grounded to the dark theme.

[@mapron1]

Yeah, everyone has wings at WB/Legion events now. It is disgusting. If new multiplayer activity will be required in expansion I probably just quit playing D4 (don't want to see all this cartoony stuff)

[@kendement071]

@@mapron1fomo is hitting hard eh?

[@hoofhearted4]

@@mapron1 cant mix dark and gritty with mmo-lite "we want you to go to our cash shop to buy skins". They should have just made a single player game with online ability if you choose. Everyone praised D4 for being like D2, but its not even close.

[@mapron1]

@@kendement071 Fomo? I don't buy cometics ever; I just consider wings on my screen hevily distracting. All my characters wearing starting hide transmogs or whatever random I did not bothered even change

[@balhatchet]

Some odd audio going on in this video, Rhykker. Might be worth having a look at your compression settings. Sounds like a compressor coming in *really* hard when you hit the threshold (often with your plosives), and then takes a couple of seconds to release.

[@antheas8013]

I think Season 5 will come with real Social Features. I mean they are necessary for the raids in the addon, and we stil, have none of them. Maybe they even try to beta test some of the raid mechanics in a season 5 theme

[@krismate2895]

I think social features will come but my guess is not for S5, probably for S6/expansion. I'm wondering if S5 will have the armoury, to save loadouts and change builds on the fly. That's been like the number 1 request for so long now.

[@Boris82]

​@@krismate2895 It can't be that long because we didn't need extra sets of gears before. This only changed since they changed the uber bosses and drops.

[@krismate2895]

@@Boris82 people have been asking for an armoury for like 10 months. Even at BlizzCon Q & A, Adam Fletcher acknowledged it’s one of the most requested features. I think for S5 we need an armoury system before social features. But for s6 and expansion, if there is going to be a raid, we absolutely need matchmaking and better social features by then 👍

[@Boris82]

@@krismate2895 My brother doesn't even wanna play the game anymore because it lacks social features. Stuff like a general chat and better trading.

[@yojomojo]

so stoked to finally see the old places from D1-2

[@luciddre4m]

I'm still holding out hope for a paragon board rework. They still feel very clunky and needlessly complex.

[@dBakaj]

It’s easy. Just go to maxroll and copy.

[@thenightingale7405]

No way they will rework it. It's how they draw in people that are into the stupid levels of complex that PoE is.

[@yulfine1688]

Complex? It's very simple compared to poe and honestly should be something players need to learn it's part of the later and end game and you can respec it, play around with it and understand it. I could see some rework but saying it's overly complex is bad not good..

[@Mercuery]

@@yulfine1688 i wish we get paragon board drops with random layout, just like item drops with random stats

[@yulfine1688]

@@Mercuery That would be beyond a bloody terrible idea..

[@AlphaPanda024]

If they add raids i feel like they should add raid specific pets that are super rare to drop like the pets could be the raid boss or something. I dont know i think it would be cool

[@Legather]

Neyrelle is definitely stupid. She took off the second she had the stone, no time to corrupt. The D4 characters might have been bickering but maybe stick with the people who just whomped 2 lesser evils and the progeny of a greater evil. Coming up with new classes is fine but do it on your own time when there’s a very conspicuous gap in the roster people are hollering for. Especially when we’re heading to the region of origin for that missing class.

[@gamblefurakagamblade9966]

People are hollering for? You mean the few loud mouths making up the vocal minority on the internet? I just can't believe Blizzard hasn't considered specifically tailoring the game to their personal needs and desires.

[@Devildoginvu]

I’m calling it right now social systems in season five. That’s the purpose for the PTR.

[@gantech7788]

Have they ever talked about changing the Druid class quest? Next week still isn't enough of a buff for Druid and they have to deal with a long ass class quest compared to the others.

[@brianauger7791]

I usually get to level 50 before I get all spirit boons . Every other class is less than 15 minutes to finish

[@brianauger7791]

I'm usually level 50 before I get all spirit boons and every other class is done in less than 15 minutes

[@jaboiblue6853]

Thats a personal problem. I just made a new druid last week (tier 2 HC) and i had max my 400 spirit offering by Lvl 19, just go stand in helltide for like 5 minutes and youll be max.

[@joekline5554]

Barbarian takes way longer

[@cfc6214]

They even bothered to release a Druid MTX last week

[@jtgreis2796]

I feel like we need a skill tree rework before we get one for paragon boards

[@Winterhe4rt]

I love to see them coming up with a next gen crusader type at some point. maybe a literal angelic kind of class.

[@libertyprime9307]

Angels basically don't intervene with Sanctuary and lore-wise it would just be stupid to have angels riding horses around, trading at vendors, and dying to swarms of flies or wolves.

[@LyneaSilver]

I want a Paladin, not a Crusader. Crusaders are cool, but they're not the same, and have had that much more recently than Paladin.

[@elibnem4126]

We need some type of Holy powered class, be it crusader, paladin or otherwise.

[@Winterhe4rt]

@@elibnem4126 Yeah I dont care if its Paladin, Crusader or "Angelic warrior". Just make it a bit more interesting and creative is my point.

[@Winterhe4rt]

@@LyneaSilver I mean... let a Crusader wear a sword.. and it basically is just a Pally lol

[@johnreeves5152]

Blizzard had said that there weren’t going to be wings in D4, having said that I like wings and was sorry to see them go.

[@riteousrighthand6144]

Spiritborn class skills were datamined, allegedly. Its a witch doctor. Only difference being instead of Zombie familiars, they'll be tree-related. The only question marks, if the leak is true, are the "soar" abilities. Though, one sounds like a variation of the Barb's Leap skill.

[@Seanidor]

Ohhh nice, I hope it really is similar to a witch doctor. That was definitely my favorite class in D3.

[@riteousrighthand6144]

@@Seanidor it sounds like it. Bat swarm. Most likely similar to cloud of bats. Forrest guardian. Zombie dog variation Tree Warden. Golem variation There's other witch doctor-y sounding skills like viper pit, leech harvest, Dreadful Spiders, etc. Again, this is my own speculation, on an alleged list of skills. But, sounds witch doctor-y, to me. The other skills listed, however, seem to be flight based. Which is interesting. Razor wings, soar, one skill listed as Sky-core. Livestream in July, to break the class down. I suppose we'll find out then.

[@jav1221]

I hope it's a soaring exploding chicken form build like d3 witch doctors.

[@slickperspective]

It's like "a battle witch doctor" or like the "battle priest" type.

[@riteousrighthand6144]

@@jav1221 WD wasn't really my jam, in D3. so i didn't get too far into any of the builds.

[@Yo_Muthas_Bush]

I wish they would add capes as back attachments. So many armor sets I see that would look so much better with a cape behind it.

[@cybergun01]

The problem is.. they didn't really make the game like D2, other than with the change in graphics. Other than that, it was nothing like D2.

[@DarkenRahl]

just to add to the "sword n board" part. Yeah paladin would be great (but likely not until the eastern part of the map gets a expansion. But there seems to be no actual reason for shields in game atm, atleast from my point of view.

[@alexsudati]

If you guys are having sound issues, there's a new setting that KZbin rolled and didn't publicly announce. If you go to settings on any video you'll see a "stable audio" option turned on by default, that's why the volume is weird. Just uncheck it. 😉If that doesn't fix it, then it's probably the source audio that's messed up

[@Dethgato5060]

That is a premium setting only, that has been out for months now. It's not new lol. That's not whats causing the problem. If anything it would help fix it.. Stop spreading misinformation.

[@KirelRed]

People should be glad they weren't "opted in to the test layout" which is truly horrid.

[@tsts00]

I don’t have Premium and the setting is there. But it didn’t fix this video.

[@ProducerX21]

@@Dethgato5060 Its not just premium. stop spreading misinformation

[@wickedblade4751]

In regards to season 5 I'm not sure if anyone's said it yet but I think there is a decent possibility the major change for season 5 will be a multiplayer overhaul. It makes sense that we are receiving all of these major changes right before the expansion and if the new mode is indeed raids then it would also make sense for them to improve the multiplayer support before vessel of hatred too.

[@dunwuryaboutit5076]

Here's a thought. If one still wished to solo a raid what if you could recruit your own alts and have them be NPCs you could add to your team? Sure there's tweaks to be made but the general idea.

[@libertyprime9307]

The general idea is stupid.

[@LyneaSilver]

Group content should not be "solo-able" until well after its serviced life expectancy. If you try to please everyone, you will please no one.

[@jf2849]

That idea is amazing and would allow us to be crazy powerful.

[@dunwuryaboutit5076]

@LyneaSilver I agree with that statement but I don't think D4 is a mmo. And at least to me raids = mmos or like mobile games. I didn't buy the game hoping to raid ya know? But I still wish to receive the benefit of the extra content. But you are right about not pleasing everyone. As long as that there isn't some unobtainable currency or gear there in which case you've locked out a chunk of players that may feel similarly.

[@jf2849]

@@dunwuryaboutit5076 I agree

[@matthuck378]

That's a really good point about the naming of a class. "Spirit Born" doesn't say enough. It sounds like a Prestige class or Advanced class (as many games do, PoE, Last Epoch, Pathfinder, older versions of D&D, etc.) to a basic class like "Monk" or "Shaman." If I had to guess, I'd guess the Spirit Born will play a lot like a melee rogue...But instead of traps it might have auras or summoned spirits?

[@MrJeremydb91]

Sorc absolutely shit on by lack of notes, feels great

[@endersblade]

I don't think you understand what BALANCE patch means.

[@polterkat]

@@endersblade I don't think you understand what being UNBALANCED means

[@joshharvey5464]

Sorcerer took such an L this patch. All because it was doing well in the pit with flameshield cheese. I'm not inclined to use that build since it requires really high stat gear, way more min/max-ing than any other build, all to do pretty bad damage(but hey, at least infinite flameshield, right?🙄)

[@joelhodoborgas]

I gave up sorc this season, ill just play barb, devs seems to want to dictade what you play lol

[@andrewevans5678]

Sorcs need a lot of rework. The patch is very small buffs to any kind of lackluster damage output that they have, an update to a key passive that is completely pointless due to the other ways that you can get CDR, and a bunch of defensive changes that are completely irrelevant because of the current meta being infinite flame shield. Sorc need pretty much BiS gear to even barely compete with other classes like barb, rogue, necro while those other classes dont need BiS to perform. My sorc at 12/12 masterwork with some pretty good farmed gear was barely able to push through 65-70 pit. My rogue on the other hand was pushing 80's before he was even level 100. The power fantasy part of the game just isn't there for sorc and this patch does nothing to help with that. Assuming that they will eventually have to fix sorc ability to be permanently invulnerable with flame shield cheese, they are going to need to add some other mechanic. Personally, i dont want to see just big damage percentage stacking buffs on sorc but maybe a 3rd enchantment slot, or being able to use both staff and wand/focus so that we can actually take advantage of some of the unique weapons? in fact, reworking enchantment slots needs to be done anyway. you basically only get 1 since you are forced into fire bolt in every build.

[@Shindashi]

Regarding names being evocative but not for Spiritborn, a good plot twist would be that spiritborns are summoners.

[@AllstarGamingDK]

Everything in D4 is solo and for that reason i think its okay to have a minority of content to be co-op only.

[@max022251]

I like to play with friends/family, but pushing higher pits as a group on hardcore just doesn't make since

[@melomanoviajero]

Thanks for the news update!

[@xCoupDeGracex]

I have a feeling that they will sneak in the Pally to surprise everyone someday......I hope

[@Henbot]

If they do it be a paid dlc or part of an expansion

[@OftenYesMan]

Lol sneak in!? You mean advertise it for 89.99 with a new pet cosmetic and a portal?

[@immatoll4375]

Yeah surprise maybe by a 15 bugs fee or something. it's amazing how low our expectation is nowadays on blizzard game. The fact that the game released with 5 completely generic classes and we have to pay 40 bugs for an irrelevant additional story played once (and will be forgotten again soon), an area that will look the same anyway with helltide and a class no one is asking for. I just hope the expansion pack is optional for seasonal content, because its hilarious that they think after unterperforming a year with this game they have the right to get our money again. Sure season 4 is okay now, but it is actually just d3 with less content but better graphics still. Had fun with d4, but man I can't wait for poe2 instead of giving this company any money anymore.

[@HalcyonEX]

​@@OftenYesManI would pay $90 for paladin

[@NinjaNerosis]

Highly unlikely, they're literally all dead in the lore...I'd assume if they do another strength class, they'd make something completely new, even skip crusader, maybe Templar or something new to the lore but similar in aspect to Pali...im happy with first dlc class being spiritborme cuz it brings the 2 fun classes from 3 into 4 ...

[@bingobot]

i never saw the comparison to D2 in the start of D4. just having low droprate of an item doesnt really mean its a d2like game. we were supposed to have runewords and crafting, and we got none of the cool stats from d2. we also had basically zero campaign bosses being farmable at endgame, only 1 super broken

[@Redfizh]

Solution: Add raids and what ever reward it will have, include parts of that reward into other solo activities. Wings: didn't believe so many players would pay 90 but now I see half of players as angels and I hate it.

[@mikedodson4595]

Ikr. I was feeling charitable because I think they have done some course correction, so I bought one of their ridiculously overpriced outfits for my rogue. And I felt a little embarrassed about it. The next frikkin day that pre order went up and yeah like 40%+ people running around with those damn wings. Blew my mind. It really makes you think. There is what social media thinks about micro transactions, and then there is what average people think about micro transactions. That battle is lost, and most people didn't even know it happened.

[@Redfizh]

@@mikedodson4595 Yeah. Players are the one who decide pricing. If every player would have a wife, we would see lower prices.

[@CreativeGamingUploads]

Don't sweat it, we'll have new wings on day 1 of the expansion for $20-$35 and they'll look better than the preorder.. as normal by Blizzard to ensure the people who paid $40 for content, but $50 for digital cosmetics, will purchase the nicer looking wings again, Blizzard triple dipping as always. Similar to Diablo 4 Ultimate cosmetics vs what they actually sell on the shop.

[@Redfizh]

@@CreativeGamingUploads Hope not. One day Diablo will look like Lost Ark. Snowboarding rainbow pooping hiphop unicorn pets everywhere.

[@rikachiu]

Expedition 33: Clair Obscur sleeper hit for me. Can't wait. I was prob the only person I knew who loved Lost Odyssey and this feels like a spiritual successor.

[@leoh121]

My biggest issue with poe is the fact that if i want to experiment with a build, i need to create a new character. You basically need to spend hours plotting out your build before you even start playing. I don't have that kind of time.

[@csafko1]

That game literally encourages more time in 3rd party apps than actually playing.

[@willlloyd6637]

Poe classes are useless that’s my issue…

[@scottwade1054]

Yeah but that witch class looks amazing

[@yulfine1688]

​@scottwade1054 it's not really a class though just the placement on the board is different is all and more efficient also summon builds on poe have been bland for a while far as I remember it's the same builds still for the 2 that exists for minions.. and it's alright I don't find it's gameplay interesting the same way I dislike minion builds in diablo being overly passive still.

[@alexanderfleischmann2099]

Thats true, but a0t least there builds...play last epoch. D4 is stupitly easy and not fun

[@Qwillo749]

I really stongly feel we need a Player Profile page that accumulates all the progress we've made across all characters and seasons. How many enemies we've killed, how many hours, how many characters. WHAT WE ACHIEVED EACH SEASON. I feel this is probably one of the most important thing they need to add to help people feel that they haven't wasted their time before it's all started again. I know this is what arpgs are about but seriously, a player profile would just make this game soooooo much more fulfilling, IMO

[@heavenbreaker3702]

I still missed the monk and crusader class from D3. I wished to see them return someday in full D4 graphics and effects with upgrade gameplay.

[@chucklez3343]

Hopefully a mixture of monk and javazon, still hoping for a lightning fury -like ability

[@dragon_dyce]

would love a javazon build

[@feranks3211]

this

[@k4yser]

Bro

[@jamesr1894]

I wish they would give Sorcs something with a synergy for hydra. like letting hydra fireballs count as normal fireballs for some uniques or codex powers. e.g. - letting them split and do extra damage when they pass thru a firewall. It's the only real turret spec in the game and it's amazing if you like to kite as a playstyle. Easy to level as well with some minor tempering.

[@mistermysteryman107]

If they simply changed the name of the Spiritborn to “Shaman” EVERYBODY would have been happy with it.

[@libertyprime9307]

Not when we find out what abilities it has, and they aren't very shaman-like.

[@mistermysteryman107]

@@libertyprime9307 but we already know that they are.

[@gamblefurakagamblade9966]

Sadly that says more about the players and the community rather than the game.

[@mistermysteryman107]

@@gamblefurakagamblade9966 no. It doesn’t. What the F even is a Spiritborn? Aesthetics matter. People know what a shaman is. This thing reeks of ancestral spirits and primal energies to fight. Which is exactly what a shaman is.

[@kokopok100]

I dont mind wings and stuff as long as it doesnt clutter the screen for example like in a world boss etc. It also need to stay within the D4 theme, dark not too flashy but there.

[@TheRealButters_O]

It's a healing class/support for the raids/dungeons

[@dongarippo7279]

What's the reason behind a PTR? Crash logs and bugs or? Surely not feedback?

[@jsunnydaze]

Yes to all of those. Also, metrics -- they can see (for example) how many people are using which skills, which can identify too strong or too weak or even unusual interactions; which dungeons get run through the most; basically what people are finding to be efficient or take advantage of. Bugs but also exploits or "unintended effects". People who spend a lot of time in PTR are more likely to be very hardcore/experienced players who are good at breaking the game. You *want* them to find these things before they go live for the season.

[@awt1989]

only things left on my wishlist are armory; sets, and runewords... game is pretty crisp!

[@Boneyard250]

One of the original works of Diablo 4 had Runes/Runewords. Trust me, if they went ahead with those ideas….🤯 all these nubs’ head’s would have exploded. Leave runewords in Diablo 2

[@JoblessBuhdda]

Please, please don’t do that. IMO I think runewords hurt d2 in some ways.

[@yulfine1688]

Runewords ruined d2 gear system and sets destroyed d3.. If they can manage a useful balance that's fine but it's overly dominating and the farming for those is already going to conflict further with other gear. Maybe as a season mechanic adding runewords and set items in a different fashion could be a way to see how they could implement them into the full game

[@awt1989]

@@Boneyard250 i mean it just adds more to the game; the masses of people feel like theres nothing to do and that its an incomplete game.. i just see it as a huge fan favorite step in the right direction..

[@awt1989]

@@yulfine1688 well ofc im not recommending to add in enigma so every char can teleport, i thought the lower tier items for leveling were really useful! and how d3 made the sets a requirement; which basically only left you a couple items to swap.. and i repeat; the lower level ones sigons/cains i think served a nice purpose

[@kings-letter]

30+ here, have played and finished all Dragon Age games. The trailer for Veilguard got me hyped.

[@doctor12567]

When are we getting set gear? Putting together a set was my favorite part of D2 & D3.

[@jf2849]

People hate that idea finding one item can be hard enough we shouldn’t have to get an entire set.

[@yulfine1688]

Sets also ruined d3 and were mostly useless in d2 because runewords reigned supreme, it was only because there was a lack of other options that a set piece and only specific ones could be used. Set items are just not a good thing, especially if they continue to provide basic handouts for the season journey.

[@jf2849]

@@yulfine1688 i agree

[@sethwood1676]

I genuinely hope they don't add either back in. Sets ruined d3 and runewords were all but required in d2. I actually think the fact that uber uniques aren't required for a bunch of builds right now and are optional still even when you have them is great for the game.

[@Rolandais]

As a Dragon Age Fan, I enjoyed the trailer to Veilguard, it suited who was telling the Story, Varric

[@rallyrobx7604]

I thought I wanted things like D2 also. I was wrong.

[@Brian-iz9sh]

D4 is just +main stat on gear. Sure in d2 it took years to find Tyraels might but you could find Tarnhelm in act1 normal that would get you all the way to hell. With +main stat any gear you find before end game is useless. You cant just increase grind +main stat because all gear is useless when you level up.

[@PereSuana]

Plus there was the trade system and social aspect of the game that made it so cool to find objects. Here is just grind to get stronger and repeat. It’s a different game approach.

[@memory_null]

They fundamentally misunderstood what made D2 good. 1) The game launched with far too few uniques and most of those uniques are completely overshadowed by legendaries (this was done by their own design). 2) It may takes years to grind out a holy grail but most of the items you actually wanted for a build in D2 were far more obtainable than a Mang Song's or Tyrael's. 3) Most player power in D2 came from leveling, and gear was the cherry on top. Gear is far more important in D4 and combined with restrictive trade (this has now been eased), made the grind for gear far more cumbersome. Anyways, I'm not trying to make a D2 vs D4 argument. I love D2 for what it is and I'm very happy with the direction that D4 is going. Seems the D4 devs have found their stride. _(EDIT)_ formatting

[@sebastienplantejean7095]

@@memory_nullyeah exactly what I thought. The leveling should be longer to get to the 100 but the paragon should get bonuses when you enter a second ,third , fourth page. That would make leveling useful. Add synergies on power like D2 had could be really nice too. Get points in charge even if you use leap . It reduce the cooldown. Out points into the last blood skills should also increase the damage or aoe of early powers.

[@_ninjaneer]

This statement in general is incorrect. D4 was never like D2. Barely and uniques at launch, no rune words and skill trees that actually matter. Rune words are the key to what makes D2 amazing. Spending weeks trying to find that precious Jah rune is a blast. D4 is just a whole new game really. It's not inspired by D2 or even D3 at all prior to this season. In this season they decided to just choose to throw out the D2 vets in favor of the D3 vets. D4 is just dead imo now.

[@MetalDad91]

I don't know what your analytics tell you, but, if you lead with the Diablo news I almost always watch the whole video. When you end with it, I just time jump. Cool video!!!

[@IAmJustAnUser]

Cmon, wings for me doesn't make any sense. D4 is now just a reskined D3...

[@kenm6609]

Well yeah, every patch they do moves it further and further to a remade D3.

[@jroc1176]

Don’t use the wings? Novel concept, I know.

[@IAmJustAnUser]

@@jroc1176 it's not about using or not, is about the vibe, lets add unicorns and rainbows and completely destroy the vibe of a dark world...

[@jroc1176]

@@IAmJustAnUser In what way do these wings ruin the dark vibe? They are in line with angel wings for this franchise, unlike D3 wings.

[@BlackDragon209]

@@jroc1176 because our characters aren't in any way angels, nor do they have wings. we are just really strong humans.

[@Jeremus717]

I love the direction that they've pivoted to. I was a big fan of both D2 and D3 but I am definitely a D3 person. Even so, the wings don't sit right with me in the new game. I am very encouraged by how in touch the upcoming patch is, and the item overhaul has been. Looking forward to Diablo 4 in the coming year.

[@nasa-bohica8516]

Time for a haircut that hat can’t hold any more hair 😂 ❤

[@ReadyToRek]

Time to grow out that beautiful mane for better headbanging 🤘

[@JoeyBK_86]

No hair cuts!! Long hair gang 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡

[@dante4111]

On the Raid Solo topic sometimes its very hard for some players agree at the same time to do a Raid with your friends, I am in favor of 2 or maximum 3 players for a raid type of mode, it is easier to agree with 1 friend than with 5

[@_MikeJon_]

Wings are dope. I don't have any but i like it.

[@Sundagar]

ARPG has always been synonymous with soloing things imo. I don't get why we'd be forced to group up for things. I'm fine with things having option to do solo OR co-op, but not forced to co-op.

[@DaRainmane]

"D4 was meant to be more D2 like."

[@BartimaeusAurelius]

It's what they sold D4 as

[@Sudokari]

It was nothing like D2.

[@ConnorWoog]

For the expansion, do you guys think the new campaign will also be level cap 50?

[@ConnorWoog]

I think it would be a shame to not be able to continue the story with our first character that is almost always gonna be level 50-60

[@Goosey_Loosey]

That statement about them changing their focus of d4 to be more like d3 is hilarious, did they actually think what d2 players wanted was overly grindy drop rates?

[@BartimaeusAurelius]

It's complete BS is what it is.

[@Opi395]

Bruh that's what D2 was. I spent over 20 years on that game and even went into plugy as well. You could farm forever and not find the most rare items. People started the holy grail challenge for that reason in the game. Yeah it was grindey. Hell it took forever to even get 100.

[@Goosey_Loosey]

@@Opi395 sure but that's not the core of d2, the extreme grindy aspects of it were only a facet of its gameplay but isn't what defined d2...

[@the1jessebrown]

This kinda makes me wanna play the campaign again, when the dlc drops can we skip the first campaign only the dlc campaign or is it another restart from the beginning

[@confectortyrannis275]

If they handle it like reaper of souls expansion for d3, it'll be an instant continuation of the campaign. It'll just plunk you in new bit first, without making you redo the whole thing

[@tipep]

"more D2 like"? like being unable to trade in a reasonable fashion? sure bro.

[@gowzahr]

As someone who typically plays games solo, I don't mind challenges that require more than one player, as long as it takes minimal effort to coordinate, e.g., everyone calls out in the chat what path their taking before it starts. It's when voice chat is needed to coordinate that I bug out.

[@7kortos7]

the spirit born looks AMAZING. I'm a huge fan of Aztec/Mesoamerican style. 9:45 and you took the words right out of my mouth. here's what i was thinking: i think it's going to be a main combat style similar to monk, fast and agile. the status effects and spell skills are going to be similar to witch doctor. and then the physical skills are probably going to be close to the Amazon, throwing your glaive, maybe some cool passives as the Amazon had an amazing passive tree. granted all this would have to be crammed into their minimal skill tree. one node each would be fine i suppose XD.

[@Vurreburr123]

Are we only getting ONE new class in the expansion? I always assumed they made the classes as bland as they are so that they could release them frequently.

[@quitwastinmytime]

I always thought we need different ways to level glyphs. I still do, but after the goblin event I think what we need more are more Nightmare stuff to make it interesting like more affiifexes instead of just annoying. I also think other leveling options shouldn't give much xp because glyphs will level so fast at high levels anyway.

[@KBrugonone]

I dont like the wings on my necro but overall i dont have a problem with optional decorations. Wear them or not its up to you :)

[@Geronymo35]

Being a former wow player for more than 15 years, here's my take regarding forced multiplayer content. It will all end up in gatekeeping, which is actually practiced in any multiplayer content games, like Lost Ark and so on. People will never have access to that specific content by themselves unless "They link achievement". The worst practice in such content. If D4 makes this being only accessed by having to queue and waiting for invite into parties, well that will escalate once again. I also wish they would introduce when ever they're ready, content similar to Torghast in WoW, which can be also found in Diablo Immortal, so I guess the concept is already there, only if they won't make it a weekly event, let it be a permanent dungeon, just play with the content in it on a weekly bases, cause damn I think that would be extremely fun. Just don't make it a forced content, cause people will get bored of it very fast. The rewards in it should be something to chase, like cosmetics, pets, etc. Thanks for the great video Rhykker, keep it up!

[@caynidar6295]

I think the spiritborn might be able to imbue themselves with the spirits of different animals to buff themselves in different ways, perhaps. Not like a druid who can transform into different animal forms or call on animal companions, but like spiritual/magical buffs. Just a highly speculative guess though, and I could see them going in a very different direction.

[@lattimere]

GoW Mad World Trailer still to this day one of my favorites!

[@darkerdelirium]

Loved the Ashava demolition mention :D

[@feranks3211]

About Neyrelle wandering of: for me, she is the next installment of the Dark Wanderer and Marius from D2. Which isn't a bad thing for me, more like a recurring theme. Her leaving behind suffering is pretty parallel to what happened in D2's storyline. Personally, I would love if we didn't catch her at the end of the expasion but rather follow her through different regions of sanctuary in upcoming expansions. If the content is right, I wouldn't mind more expansions in this fashion.

[@Whelp140]

No doubt in my mind that when someone completely screws the pooch and Diablo gets released that will have a holy type class come in to save the day

[@aion5386]

Im no expert, but grim dawn have had active minion commanding for years + a lot of different minions depending on class/items

[@thegrymlife6483]

I’d honestly love to see some sort of cross between the Blood Knight (Immortal) and the Paladin come to D4. I feel like that could be pretty cool concept.

[@Empire84NY]

Maybe they can figure out how to fix the constant crashes since the latest patch

[@davidarcherd9868]

I want them to add the Templar from Diablo 3 as your sword and board class, so you could explore that faction more in depth.

[@punkerguy805]

Of all the changes... adding pets that pick up mats is the one that actually might bring me back...

[@StrikerX-]

Hey man love the vids, super pumped for the future of Diablo. New mic is much more sensitive to distance it looks like.