What the Mario movie can learn from the Mario movie

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It's-a Mario movie double feature. Talking about the good and bad in the new AND old Mario movie! There's a lot more of that old 90s relic in this new one than you might expect.
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[@kingbash6466]

As someone who unironically enjoys the live-action Mario film, I'm glad that the new film embraces the wonder and charm of the entire franchise. Bowser's love song was the obvious highlight.

[@AlexMartinez-gv7hy]

It's stuck in my head. I need help

[@SomeLuminoth]

PEACHES

[@iain1541]

I really enjoy the Bob Hoskins Mario film, used to watch it all the time and have shown my son the film as well which was great as he also enjoyed it. Its always nice to know that i am not alone 😂

[@GearGolemTMF]

@@iain1541 Agreed. I love it too and always point out to others the fact that the bob-omb was had Reebok branded shoes for some reason. My dad and I's favorite scene was the police car chase when they shot the fire gun back and forth before blowing up. I honestly saw the beginning of this movie as a more well done rendition of how that movie started to an extent. There were a surprising amount of parallels between the two which after all these years were probably the parts Nintendo at the time approved and agreed with before it took the dystopian turn among other things.

[@lpnp9477]

I left for the bathroom once he started singing. Don't put musical numbers in your films. But I also unironically love the line action movie, but that's because I love trash

[@ffffffffROTHY]

The reason the Yoshi egg in the stinger was special was because it was green. The stampede that passed by in the travel montage had no green Yoshis in it. Also! Peach is never stated to have come from Brooklyn. Mario suggests it, but she immediately responds that there's a lot of other worlds out there. The live action movie actually has a fan-sequel webcomic that had creative input from one of the original movie's writers and is based on plans for the unproduced sequel and ideas that didn't make it into the final film. The comic hasn't been updated since 2015, but you'd probably have something to say about it.

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

the yoshi egg was also teased in the wedding scene as someone put it on the table so it makes sense considering the climax of the film

[@AnnCatsanndra]

Kinda makes me wonder if the Yoshi's Island DS plot for Baby Peach and Baby Wario gets played with to explain them and waluigu without overwriting the movie lore for the Bros origin. Could be cool.

[@foursidekm]

I still think it's pretty lame though. I don't really care about THE yoshi. He's not that interesting

[@Rediscool9]

@@foursidekm I mean, sure, but whether you like it or not, THE main Green Yoshi is still an important main character to the franchise so it still makes sense to have him be used as post-credits material for the inevitable sequel.

[@Rediscool9]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that. None of the Yoshis we see in the brief scene on Yoshi’s Island had any Green Yoshis which may imply that Green Yoshis in this Mario movie continuity are extremely rare and that the main Green Yoshi character that we see in the games is the only one? I think they’re doing this to make our main Green Yoshi stand out from the rest of the Yoshis to emphasize that he’s one of the main characters.

[@purpleghost9020]

6:24 literally directly after Nick said “As was his voice actor” I got an ad featuring Chris Pratt where he says “Whats up guys, Chris Pratt here”

[@millenniumlaggus5176]

I sadly did not

[@purpleghost9020]

@@millenniumlaggus5176 that sucks, hopefully one day the Pratt will grace you with his presence

[@aeon3valefore]

The fact my theater ended with people applauding it was a fantastic sign. Adults and children loved it. I did not expect people to applaud this film, just walk off and be like, "that was fun." That put a genuine smile on my face. :)

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

it's just a really fun movie in general, sometimes it's all you need to keep your audience happy!

[@RoninCatholic]

In the 1993 movie, Daisy was the only princess whose name was established in the American releases at the time, and a lot of people weren't clear that she was even a separate person from Princess Toadstool. So they clearly figured the more normal name would be the one she'd grow up with in Brooklyn. A baby hatching out of an egg isn't a problem for Catholics theologically, we'd just acknowledge that she's either a different specie created by the same God _or_ speculate that someone encased a fully born baby inside of an egg somehow, for some reason.

[@Yoshizuyuner]

I mean Luigi being captured gives Mario more motivation to help the mushroom kingdom, mairo would of probably not help some stranger he doesn’t even know but when his brother in trouble he will try his best to save him

[@lance2580]

Besides, the only reason why Bowser kidnapped Peach in _Super Mario Bros._ was to prevent her from undoing his curse upon the Mushroom Kingdom.

[@lpnp9477]

I mean it makes sense, I just love Luigi and didn't enjoy that he was sidelined for so much of the film. Here's hoping he's in the sequel more. Peach doesn't need to be the damsel, i don't give a shit, but give my boy some screen time.

[@jefferyandbob3137]

@@lpnp9477 at least they let him power-up too at that the end, that was a welcome surprise

[@RoninCatholic]

Mario wants to be a hero and would help regardless.

[@Shywhitefox]

While this is true, would have been nice if they did something else with him. Example, Bowser using him as a lure for Mario to get him in an ambush, then Luigi managing his own escape and is then reunited with his brother for the rest of the movie. It almost feels like the voice actor himself could not be around to play the role so they worked around that in the movie. Even in some of the prison scenes he was not even shown or had a limited amount of lines.

[@M_Alexander]

Fun Fact: the live action movie _was_ an independent project with Mario slapped onto it. Or rather, the directors (a married couple) had their own movie they wanted to make with an original story and used the opportunity to make it

[@A88mph]

One of Peach's outfits is quite ironic when you consider that the Mario movie just dethroned 'Frozen 2' for highest grossing opening for an animated movie.

[@HonerableG]

I’m not familiar with Frozen 2. Which outfit was it?

[@dantemustdie00]

@@HonerableG Ice Flower outfit, which looked like Elsa's dress

[@A88mph]

@@HonerableG I'm trying not to give spoilers. If you at least know who Elsa is, and know your Mario power ups, you should know what I mean.

[@eddardgreybeard]

She really let it go, didn't she?

[@RoninCatholic]

Elsa: Let it go Peach: Let's go!

[@nezumi6554]

3:25 Grant Kirkhope only worked on DK64. David Wise was the main force behind the sound of the Donkey Kong Country series.

[@GameApologist]

You're the first one to point that out! Massive mistake on my part!

[@GearGolemTMF]

I was honestly really happy to see and draw parallels to the '93 movies. Wasn't expecting it to get shouted out in a positive light, but to see it properly reimagined here to me means that some of those concepts were probably approved back then and good enough to greenlit.

[@AnimeFrankReynolds]

3:30, David Wise was the man Behind Donkey Kong Country's sound. Grant was specifically 64

[@saphcal]

yeah Grant is responsible for the DK Rap!

[@victoriouswinner7745]

the live action one was PEAK, the Mario dance was amazing

[@ZeroJump]

Do the Mario is from the Super Show

[@Constantine_Cvl8]

The dance was from rhe show

[@juliacortez5516]

That was from the super show...

[@misterzygarde6431]

I am curious on what a Mario movie from Sony would've looked like given Nintendo originally went to them to do another film. Or given how Dreamworks and Illumination are owned by Universal, a Mario movie from Dreamworks as well.

[@domd5989]

I'd assume both companies would've been heavy with the plot and world building.

[@LoliconSamalik]

Sony? They would have pulled yet another Alvin & the Chipmunks, just like what they pulled with Smurfs and Sonic. They're the main reason why the first Sonic movie isn't a proper Sonic movie.

[@domd5989]

@Inma Samalik They made the Angry birds movie.

[@weathermansam2]

@@LoliconSamalikSony didn’t do the Sonic movie

[@VongolaXZax]

​@@weathermansam2 exactly

[@KraziShadowbear]

I find it funny that still everyone focuses on the voice actors so much, despite the fact I (personally) completely forgot about the voice actors who played the characters with the plot and story and references all over the place. XD It was fun and how it just merged so well in such a weird way, though I can certainly agree with the points brought in comparing the original/old Mario Movie.

[@notsyzagts7967]

I feel sad for people who don't allow their minds to see characters as characters and not actors. They have no imagination.

[@CyberdustStudios]

​@@notsyzagts7967 Lack of imagination? no Overexposure to VA's? yes

[@supersonicfan64-pr6ot]

Luigi is one of the most likable characters in all of cinema, no matter whether or not it’s John or Charlie

[@lpnp9477]

Or Danny!

[@supersonicfan64-pr6ot]

good point.

[@aeon3valefore]

It could be possible that Peach didn't come from the sewers from her world. The travel point between the Mushroom Kingdom and where Mario and Luigi came from is vast. It's like a giant space in between and if you aren't careful you could end up where you aren't intending to go. So, maybe Peach got to the Mushroom Kingdom not through the same city or even world as Mario.

[@mr.skateandwatch]

One thing I wish the movie would add for context: how did Bowser learn about Princess Peach’s existence? Fun as this movie is, this was one of the things that cause my brain to itch a bit throughout the film. We got a little bit of peach’s backstory/exposition, but never how they first met. Guess until the inevitable sequel is announced, I’m gonna view Bowser as the mighty King of the koopas and parasocials

[@antonto1]

You know how in the movie some unseen inteligence is always leaking information to bowser? I even got to think TOAD is the traitor

[@scr0ngle108]

​@@antonto1 that would be a probably unintentional reference to the very first live action draft, where Toad is secretly a spy who redeems himself at the end

[@saphcal]

Bowser and Peach living in the same world where shes been as a baby. She rules the Mushroom Kingdom. I'm sure he knew about her the same way he knew about Cranky Kong and the Penguin King. This seems like just known info. Yeah he probably didnt know about her at first, when she first arrived, but shes like in her 20s. 20 years is a long time for him to have learned "huh this weird human lady is ruling mushroom kingdom now". i dont think it was something that needed explaining.

[@RPG_Hacker]

Just a day after watching the new Mario movie, I watched the original live action one for the first time together with my girlfriend. And you know what? We had an absolute blast with it! Say about it what you will, how nonsensical it is, how difficult the plot is to grasp, how non-Mario it is, but it's difficult to argue that it ever gets boring. It's pretty much just this really wild ride from beginning to end, and I think that makes it a heckin' good time. Now back in 1993 when it was first released, watching it would have probably made me really angry and confused (I mean, if I hadn't been only one and a half years old then). However, now that an alternative Mario movie exists that's more legit, I think it's super fun to go back to the old one and just take it for what it is: A really enjoyable, albeit nonsensical flick. All of that being said, I think I'll always enjoy the new movie more than the original one, because ultimately, I'm still a Mario fan. I think it's impossible for any hardcore Mario fan to not get sort of emotional seeing all the love that went into the new movie, even despite its flaws. It feels like a movie that was made specifically for me, as though the entire movie was just a single long reference to my personal life, and that's something the original movie never even attempted to be.

[@Wayneisboss]

The kids don't say "fire" The kids say "wizard"

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

indeed, the movie was straight wizard

[@csndbdbdhdb]

This movie reminded me of why I love videogames, just like the sonic movie. That’s what makes a good adaptation in my book.

[@mamodokod4613]

Just imagine how much Mario and Luigi will be together in the sequel. There might even be a mama Luigi reference.

[@johnathan7313]

Man did a review for the old Mario movie as part of this video, god I love this channel

[@bemasaberwyn55]

13:11 "this thing is gonna make a billion bucks. That will surprise nobody " Grace Randolph: Surprised Pikachu face

[@ilovethelegend]

While I agree that it sucks that Luigi kinda got the short end of the stick, I do like that they Damseled him for this movie, and didn't put Peach in imminent danger until after they had already established her relationship with Mario; it makes way more sense as a motivation for Mario, in this movie, to want to rescue his brother, since the conflict with Bowser kind of isn't his problem. This way, in the next movie, when the Koopalings show up to spring Bowser, he can grab Peach on his way out, and it'll make sense for Mario to go, "Oh no, my friend's in trouble! I gotta go help her!"

[@garrtoons4303]

I liked the old movie in a so bad it's good way, but I also discovered actually good things in this movie like the effects, the hilariously dark tone, and half of the jokes being funny.

[@B-Dawgg]

The mario movie is the sum of its parts. Some phenomenal parts, but does not stretch or challenge the viewer beyond Easter eggs, stunt casting and nostalgia. Which is going to make billions.

[@Joshers744]

David Wise (and Robin Beanland in 3) did DKC. However Kirkhope did the DK Rap from DK64 and absolutely should have gotten credited for that.

[@Tkscz]

Eveline Fischer did most of DKC 3. Beanland was Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark and Conker's bad fur day.

[@Mr_bukowski4435]

I genuinely loved the new movie and the character interactions, while limited, was so refreshing for modern Mario! The old one is a trip 😂

[@WeirdoOfWeirdos]

Yes, what CAN the Mario movie learn from the Mario movie?

[@sahaprocks7751]

I think that the Mario movie can learn a whole lot from the Mario movie but the Mario movie can also learn a bit from the Mario movie but I do think the Mario movie was better executed than the Mario movie so I think the Mario movie can learn from the Mario movie and the Mario movie can learn from the Mario movie

[@wakeangel2001]

Didn't the Detective Pikachu movie come out close to 5 years ago? It's not like Nintendo didn't make ANY movies based off their IPs since 1993

[@caseypitt1296]

The Pokemon franchise is owned by the Pokémon Company, who produced this film alongside Legendary Pictures. While Nintendo does have partial ownership of the Pokémon Company, the company is still considered independent, and they produced the movie with very little or no involvement from Nintendo, so it’s kind of hard to call Detective Pikachu a Nintendo movie, unlike the Mario movie’s, which directly involve Nintendo to varying degrees.

[@rainpooper7088]

Pokémon isn't owned by Nintendo. A better example would be the Animal Crossing movie, but that one only made it into Japanese theaters.

[@blackfox4138]

This is the film that got me thinking that we might be taking films a bit too seriously nowadays. Was this film fun? Yeah. Did it successfully manage to kickstart a Nintendo film franchise? Absolutely. So…what else does it need to do? Sure it could be deeper, it could be better. But it did exactly what it set out to do. If I had fun, I had fun. If it wasn’t trying to be deeper than it was, I have no intention of looking deeper than it is. It doesn’t just erase the good films, and it doesn’t diminish the really well crafted animated films out there. It just happens to be a fun short time and nothing more. And I’m starting to think that we shouldn’t be asking for more.

[@Logan-tinyplanetss]

my friend was sick one day and we chose a random movie to laugh at (the live action mario movie) but we didnt expect just how sweet the brothers's bond would be! that was absolutely the highlight of both movies for me, and i really hope they emphasize luigi more in whatever their sequel/spinoff may be.

[@kirbymasterdeluxe]

Now that I've seen the movie, my favorite part was when Bowser was put into a jar. What, you thought I was kidding?

[@alcatrazjyh6293]

Note to self: Watch The Super Mario Bros. Movie whenever you can Additional note to self: Only watch the 1993 Super Mario Bros. Movie when you're hammered

[@Breadward_MacGluten]

Don't forget the 1986 Japanese exclusive Mario movie!

[@alcatrazjyh6293]

@@Breadward_MacGluten I've already seen it and it's not too bad. I have more of a preference to english dubs, and yet even I enjoyed The Great Mission to Rescue Princess Peach.

[@Breadward_MacGluten]

@@alcatrazjyh6293 yeah the dub for that movie is kind of a joke lol. really love it though

[@GustavoSuperSonic2001]

Man, I think we needed more of Luigi in the Badlands learning to grow out of Mario's Shadow and that... I want all the deleted scenes from that

[@GrandDab]

I added Fist Bump to the ending of the Mario movie and it fits perfectly.

[@GrandDab]

My completely legitimate digital copy of the movie, that is 👀

[@roachmasta189]

Great video! I honestly prefer the 90s Mario movie just because its so out there I find it more engaging than the animated one, where you get exactly what you expect

[@y_s4021]

The movie was definitely Mario, but more. I loved how they expanded the universe visually. The scale, the details, the character designs. Also the music... top tier. The story, despite flaws, was just plain fun and nostalgic. As it should be. I liked his family, the rival, the relation to his bro. As a brand, I think Mario has gained a lot from this movie.

[@CheshireCatMystic]

I honestly thought Jack Black did an amazing job as Bowser, but I totally agree with your take on Kong Rogan.

[@RoninCatholic]

Mushroom people and edible mushrooms existing side by side isn't any weirder than us as mammals existing alongside such edible mammals as cattle, sheep, pigs, bats, and rats.

[@iltiziocongliocchiali2301]

Good thing I'm italian then, our voice actors did a fantastic job on the dub, every single character was spectacular. Even then, you could still hear Jack Black from Bowser even if the italian voice actor sounds nothing like him.

[@micahdsutton]

The movie's pacing. After a dramatic scene, no transition, just a black screen for 2 seconds then another scene. Also, it introduces Peach, they do stuff, then go inside the castle for a little bit for Peach to do her speech. Other than that, I really liked that movie.

[@bazzagazza2118]

The title confuses me but I still love it 😂

[@zillasans5154]

New Mario movie:10/10 The og Mario movie:what did they do to the goomba

[@Hallofmediocity]

Really surprised there wasn't any Bowser Jr. or Koopalings in the movie. Hopefully they'll be in the sequel.

[@mariobroultimate1808]

I think they didn't include them because they just wanted Bowser to be the focus. Jr and the Koopalings being introduced in the first movie might make it overwhelming with too many characters. So it's best that they be saved for the sequel.

[@AlexMartinez-gv7hy]

What if in the sequel Bowser Jr. Gets his dad back

[@rainpooper7088]

Bowser's piano had "Ludwig von Koopa" written on it, so I guess they are out there somewhere building pianos or something.

[@tracyndiyob162]

loved this movie as i really loved that it actually mixes the 1993's elements(kinda felt like a reworking of parts of the original just without the boring & bad elements making it fit the games more,especially the finale actually happening in brooklyn instead of just a meme joke.). alongside having fun making a world of what we have of the games nowadays as well as fully embracing even the super show's origin,enjoyed the characters like mario(the voice worked in context but definitely needs work as i wouldn't be against his voice just going to charles.),luigi(liked charlie day as him and still cared about his relationship with mario as it was shown well enough/tbh had that issue more with tails in sonic movie 2 in regards to how he met the blue blur.),princess peach(loved her especially showing her protecting her kingdom instead of being pointlessly kidnapped until it made sense when it did and while i think a few moments of their beginning could've been changed love her interactions with mario/trusting toad.) ,bowser(loved jack black's direction for bowser as he's a boisterous villain and love they brought his love of peach as well.) ,toad(completely prefer this over the game voice/did find funny it also appeared at the end and hope we see toadette as it's the most i actually loved him.),dk(outside the laugh which was a bit on the nose liked it for donkey kong's character in country.),kamek(so weird it's gantu's voice actor as it felt different and always got more gruntilda if she talked from him.),cranky(do wish he went for a similar voice to the cartoon as he reminded me of bentley from sly cooper a bit too much at times.),foreman spike(hope in the sequel wario & waluigi work for him as i liked he gave the mario bros. a bit of respect for saving him cheering them.) and that nihilistic luma(with peach's origin in this/originally going to be her relative i really wonder if this version will be related to rosalina as it's clear she's going to be in the sequel,which seriously makes me wonder what she'll be like with how that luma was.). do wish the adventure was a bit longer(mostly the yoshi kingdom as it was weird mario meeting the yoshi's but not commentating on it or helping.) and would've loved a subplot for luigi trying to escape bowser's kingdom meeting e. gadd in the castle/princess daisy ruling the desert kingdom(would actually love a relationship like the original in a sequel.) but loved what they did for this movie being a comeback from the huge failure of 1993(alongside making me care for an illumination movie with how well nintendo reigned them in.) and weaving the game world greatly that i really want to see nintendo pictures make more films/cartoons/anime of their series(especially star fox/kid icarus with that reference that made me get a huge grin.:3) and go bigger for a sequel maybe connecting & leading to a super smash bros. series if they're introduced well.

[@sanicsanic6890]

As a former Mario fan turned Sonic fan, I thought the movie was pretty fun to watch and got most of the references

[@MVPando]

I loved the movie, top 3 favorite video game movies

[@coolguy5133]

Toad: A-aron, where is A-aron right now!?

[@dcbandit]

My favorite part of the love action Mario movie is the Bobomb scene, but I really enjoy it. I also love the new animated Mario movie, it has some of my favorite versions of the Mario characters. Honestly, the game designs are a little lacking for me, especially how Mario has no neck, so the redesigns work great for me. I especially love how Peach turned out, the slight color shift for her eyes to a nice turquoise is brilliant.

[@Blaze4ification]

yeaaah I'd love to rewatch the old Mario movie, I remember liking it as a kid, but then everyone else hated on it so I jumped on the ship, but all these years later I feel like it was a good movie. The flaw was that it had Mario plastered on it, had it been literally anything else it might have been a good movie, it was just a bad mario movie... but I also dread rewatching to have those memories shattered. Yeah agreed with everything you said here too, suuure the live action is bad, but it had some solid moments that I remember, that I wish the animated had explored more... such as the world itself, and yeah more connections with the bros.

[@bowmaj8666]

Since this movie came out I've heard people saying "This movie embraces the 90's Mario cartoon. Sonic should do the same thing!" The problem is I don't think it's that simple. Making the Mario Bros Italian-American plumbers from Brooklyn who get transported to the alternate world of the Mushroom Kingdom doesn't exactly alter anything within the game's continuity or story (since there isn't that much story anyway.) With Sonic, the whole idea that Sonic grew up in this secret village as a Freedom Fighter while Dr. Eggman.... sorry, "Robotnik" took over the world and ruled as a kind of "Robot Hitler", I honestly don't feel like that fits into the stories and canon of the games very well. Even when the Archie Comics tried to do adaptations of the game's stories, they had to mix it with their own canon and continuity and everything just became a bit of a convoluted mess. It's why I've always preferred the IDW series, because that really seems to keep the games in mind, and why I'd take characters like Tangle, Whisper and Dr. Starline appearing in the games over characters like Sally, Antoine and Snively any day of the week!

[@IndianaWright]

I feel that the lack of detail or character development is likely because of Nintendo putting their foot down on what to do and what not to do. They are VERY controlling of their licenses, and wish to play it safe, specially for a blockbuster movie. The movie was basically done like a Mario game. Not too much to think about, story is mostly the same, but the ride through it was fun.

[@hyper-link7540]

9:24 The fact that Peach is called a Princess here makes sense, (spoiler warning ⚠️) because unlike the Game version, She came out of nowhere and the Toads groomed her to be their leader. Its not like the Game version were she was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, we know that her parents are King and Queen Toadstool. For Movie Peach to become a queen she’d have to marry a king or prince.

[@HyponMixhog]

Dang. You definitely nailed a much better point to why Peach is called a Princess instead of Queen

[@hyper-link7540]

@@HyponMixhog ありがとございます。(Thank you), I take much pride in my work as a Video game Historian.

[@johandori7795]

So, weirdly enough, I've actually got a nostalgic sweet spot for the live action Mario Bros, despite not being around when it first released. I happened upon it when my father figure of the day found it in like, a bargain bin or something when I was twelve, and regardless of the weirdness and lack of real Mario elements, I still really enjoyed the movie. Still do actually, so yeah.

[@DIASTCartoons]

I thought the new movie was fun to watch. I hope the sequel establishes more of the character relationships and include Wario Ware and Wario Land references. It would also be cool if they had John Leguizamo do a cameo role since I heard he was kind of disappointed he didn't get a role in the first one after growing to like the live action film in more recent years. It would be cool if John's character was related to Charles Martinet's Jump Man character since his design has some elements from Bob Hoskins depiction of Mario.

[@dwinters6291]

Donkey Kong isn't the spinoff series. Mario is the the spinoff.

[@LoliconSamalik]

mario was the main character of DK arcade

[@thegamingembassy1543]

It was a good movie (it needed more dance offs between Bowser and Mario-😆) but in all seriousness, I wanted a small spinoff section with Luigi meeting Professor Egad and him trying to defeat King Boo and getting a look at Bowser's generals (i.e., King Bob-Bomb, Koopalings, etc.). Just my opinion.

[@johnathan7313]

Link only? Well glad I found it anyways through your twitter! I’m sure it’ll be good

[@GameApologist]

I hadnt saved the changes, thank you for saying something!

[@johnathan7313]

@@GameApologist glad to help lol

[@nataliemagdariaga5567]

KZbin recommended me this video as soon as it was uploaded 🥰

[@theendisthebeginningistheend]

Jack Black was perfect as Bowser.

[@superspider64]

While it sucks that you had the issue of being unable to seperate the VA's from their characters I, funnily enough, had a blast with all the VA's because I do not care about live action, so I cockishly pride myself on being "immune to star power", which means I didn't have that issue lol

[@y_s4021]

20 years from now I predict we'll get a reboot of the original Mario movie. I hope they go all in with the gritty cyberpunk aesthetic, with proper counterparts to all the characters instead of "not-peach" and a real dinosaur fight scene, more velociraptor yoshi, more power-ups and so on.

[@lunarduo5514]

I watched a whole video about the Mario movie, and somehow that crazy luma wasn't mentioned once? HOW???

[@JediMB]

I haven't watched the original (anime) Super Mario Bros. movie, but I did and still do like the second movie from 1993. 🙃 The new/third one was surprisingly good, anyway. It dodged some issues I'd expected it to stumble on, and I just had a good time with it.

[@dianeenvy4194]

I want to see Mario and Sonic on the big screen together someday.

[@jefferyandbob3137]

me and friends had a blast, I think there was just enough story and personality to the characters for it to be entertaining while still remaining mostly just pure goofy fun.

[@ipineaplezs2070]

The Mario movies was really good, probably the best video game movie adaptation. You go on about the VA being distracting, but I did not find that to be the case at all even with a voice so iconic as Jack Black.

[@Rishi123456789]

I unironically love the 1993 Mario movie because it had such a charming innocence and sweetness to it. But I also unironically love the 2023 Mario movie as well. And while I love Sonic more than Mario, I still love Mario and I grew up with both Sonic AND Mario (although I grew up with Sonic more than Mario). And even though I loved the live-action Sonic movies, I have to admit that they were mid as fuck. I hope Sonic 3 will be pure kino, but in any case, I hope that the 2023 Mario movie makes a billion dollars at the box office because I want video-game movies to replace capeshit as the next big cinematic trend.

[@Dark_Mario_Bros.]

well, I do believe the mushroom does in fact have the eyes, it's just not facing the camera? since it's always on the hand of the characters as soon it's out of the block.

[@atavious2491]

Despite this movie being a box office success, it's now clear that the voice acting in this movie is pretty divisive. It's clear that for some people who criticize the voices are the kind of Mario fans that don't want their precious/sacred things to be touched or messed with. I'll tell you this, if this movie had no celebrity cast and all the characters were accurately depicted as they were in the video games with little to no dialogue, this movie would've felt a lot shorter in my opinion. Almost like a half hour short film. The voices help the movie out for me. And obviously without it this movie wouldn't have been as successful as it already is so yeah.

[@plimbo751]

I think the mario movie 2 is going to be the best opportunity to really get the characters less thin. In terms of acting, I think luigi, mario, and bowser were great, even as characters with not much going for them. Peach wasn't my favorite since she was basically just wildstyle from the lego movie, but besides that I think the characters could have more depth.

[@AkiDave]

I watched it today and I had a fun time!

[@M_Alexander]

The sequel... should be an embellished stage play. IYKYK

[@saphcal]

the sequel can start with an embellished stage play retelling the first movie, and have mario and luigi watching it and laughing about the parts that arent right, then jump into the real movie.

[@tylerherr4288]

they didnt hire voice actors they hired professional talkers

[@tylerherr4288]

except for toad that guys a va through and through

[@jaggededge11]

Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. And unlike Sonic 2, the wedding scene was enjoyable (Though, I was really hoping Peach took Toad's frying pan and went Super Mario RPG against the Koopas). Like the Sonic movies, I came into it expecting a good time and that's exactly what I got. I couldn't tell you what more the movie could have done, as I was satisfied in what it accomplished (Being accessible to anybody while also paying respect to fans of it's various franchises).

[@myleswelnetz6700]

The old Mario movie was good on paper, but theh could’ve handled the execution better.

[@Bagel_B0y]

KZbin literally recommended me this the second it came out

[@TheRealLemur]

I will say... There are eyes on the mushroom power ups too... they just try to angle it away so its not as noticeable.... for some reason

[@TheRealSephiroth]

The 2023 film can learn everything from the 1993 film because the 1993 film is an unappreciated masterpiece change my mind. 😁

[@ajayr1383]

Personally I would have preferred if Mario and Luigi stuck together and their motivation was just to get back to Brooklyn, but the only way to do so is by helping Peach and Toad beat Bowser somehow.

[@Bofrab]

Overall I agree with your review. I thought the characters were fun and (mostly) well done, I enjoyed the references, and I loved the remixed mario music. I’m also pleasantly surprised to see the Ice Flower in this movie, even if it made peach just look like Elsa. (Also loved the supershow/movie reference of them being from Brooklyn) My problems are also mainly the same. The pacing was pretty fast in this movie. They should have added more scenes in between the action to show these characters bonding (like a scene in-between the cranky kong throne scene and the donkey Kong fight where Mario is readying for the fight when toad walks in to check on him and they bond more, because they barely talked to each other in this movie.) they could have very easily taken out one of the scenes from Brooklyn (*cough* The Dog *cough*) to add a side scene into the main part of the movie. My main problem was sadly the Kongs. While I don’t like how Donkey Kong literally just sounds like Seth Rogen, I think bigger issue is that he feels wrong. I literally forgot that was Donkey Kong until he started kicking ass with the fire flower. He acted more like how I imagine Diddy Kong would act. I’ve always imagined Donkey Kong acting similarly to Mighty from Archie Sonic. Lovable and caring, but has the power to punch down buildings, and will rock your world if you mess with his home, his friends, or his bananas. As for Cranky Kong, I think character wise he was fine. I just thought the voice acting for them sounded bad personally. Lastly, I hated the pop music. When the remixed Mario songs sounded so good, it made them feel even more out of place. I get it’s supposed to be nostalgia like “hey it’s 80 music because Mario is from the 80s” but it just felt tacked on, especially when the last song they play is A: not from the 80s, and B: in a guardians of the galaxy movie, which I feel was only put in because of the voice for Mario. I don’t know. Overall my review is that I enjoyed the movie, but I’m not sure if I liked it. Maybe I’ll rewatch it later to get a better idea of how I feel.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, fair and valid points and opinions, I could pretty much agree with everything you said, I liked the Movie, but I did feel like the pacing were a little off, i hope they do better with the next Movies, speaking of which I will look forward to see what they do next, it’s going to be very interesting, what would you like to see next? Also, about Yoshi, while it’s true that we did see a bunch of Yoshies earlier in the Film, let me ask you though, did we ever get to see THE Yoshi?

[@Gilbot9000]

No, the kids would say Fire DK is pretty wizard

[@raphaelturtle4146]

I expected Pratt to be TERRILE but he was instead barely passable. So, that's a plus? But I was surprised to learn martinet was Mario's father. He was a genuinely good voice actor. I thought he lost the part in the movie because he couldn't do lengthy dialogue as Mario and could only spit out brief one liners like "wahoo!". But he was great as Mario's dad - so why couldn't he play mario???

[@mayoboi0120]

There’s a big difference between having a few lines and being the main character with the most lines.

[@raphaelturtle4146]

@MayoBoi01 hearing him do other voice work .awesome me think he'd do great. I'm sure he could find a middle ground voice between video game one liners and feature length dialogue. He IS Mario. They owe it to him to give him a chance.

[@lpnp9477]

He would have been a fantastic Mario, but big Hollywood movies will always favor big Hollywood stars. They wanted to have a recognizable name for the poster, that's what it comes down to.

[@Scroteydada]

Mario music arrangements in cinema audio is worth the recommendation alone

[@johnholthaus6474]

When they were in the pizza place talking about their business, hearing Charlie Day talk about it really made me feel like I was watching a beginning of an Always Sunny episode

[@Tkscz]

3:30 Grant Kirkhope wanted credits for the DK Rap sense that's what he made. David Wise did the music for the DKC games.

[@charleschamp9826]

So in the 90s Mario Movie universe, is the meteor that split dimensions in two actually a Leviathan Seed from Phazee? I mean if it can split Aether in two why not other planets?

[@futuramayeah]

Game Apologist, i found an old encyclopedia volume of R and i read the reptiles section and it showed a tree of descenants and i think it showed humans evolving from dinosaurs

[@epikprodukmins5189]

I first saw the 1993 Mario movie like a decade ago here on youtube (back before they really enforced copyright and such) and I just remember wondering when peach was going to show up, where was toad (I didn't realize he was that Rockstar guy), and was always waiting for the movie to be more like the games. I never finished it.

[@BonitoJoe111]

What the Mario movie can learn from the Mario movie? Gee, I don't know... how about pretty much *EVERYTHING*

[@cybersonic8472]

See it was different for me because I hadn't seen anything that the guy who played Luigi so I thought his voice was perfect, but for toad all I could see was him doing his toad impressions he does on who's line is it anyways

[@OriginalMaRulFullStream]

Been waiting

[@IStandForTJandTAW]

I agree, Mario and Luigi’s dynamic needed a greater role in the film. It was the super mario BROS movie. Lets hope the sequel makes them the two main characters, and have it based on yoshi’s island and super mario world, Make Kamek the bad guy, and that would be SIIIICK!

[@TronicSSJ07]

Let’s hope the sequel has a groundbreaking story because references alone won’t save it. I guarantee it.

[@aeon3valefore]

I did feel that Peach's voice didn't stand out. The actress was good, don't get me wrong. But, if we are comparing to iconic voices or tones? It felt like her voice was generic female. To me at least. Like, any other talented voice actress could have taken the role. I don't know personally why they chose her, or her past work, but she did the role well.

[@budgoodrich6000]

Spoilers I guess: Couldn't agree more with the Bowser-Jack Black dissonance. It worked great at first, but as soon as he started singing about Peaches, he stopped being Bowser and became Tenacious D and shattered any disbelief I was hanging onto. Side note: I was VERY glad to see both Mario and Luigi grab that power star at the end. Seeing Luigi share the climax with Mario was 🤌

[@Quinhala11]

Donkey Kong isn't a spinoff

[@lpnp9477]

I guess you're right, Mario is the spinoff

[@koplopbopthecatsikune9502]

For me, when chriss pratt tried to sound like Charles martinet in the plumber advert near the beginning he sounded like a very good Mario, I hope if they make a sequel he goes back to using that voice or atleast something similar, cause the rest of the film he just just Chris Pratt."