What the Pet Food Industry Doesn't Want You To Know (All Life Stages)

[@itsbutters69]

As always....GREAT video and info! Between you and @petfoodpuzzleguy I have learned so much about pet nutrition and what to look for and what to avoid.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Glad it’s helpful

[@mcbeezee2120]

BIG ditto!

[@TJ-kz1ul]

Another informative video, thank you. Buddy, Teddy, Simba and Emma thank you also 🐾🐾🐾🐾❤

[@ashwatharavindan2932]

much helpful, thanks a ton doc 🙏

[@Kirbling]

Just to reiterate your point here.. so this means that you cannot simply adjust their daily food amount (cups) when they for example lose weight as a senior and assume that it will still be a healthy choice for them. It's the percentages that matter the most.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Yes, there comes a point where if you restrict amount too much to adjust calories, you are decreasing everything else Including the good stuff.

[@ngarci8040]

Dr. Rea got me quitting whatever video I’m on as soon as I see her channels notification…!!! lOl 👍👍

[@AnimalDocRea]

Just a short little rant

[@UntilWeRich]

Awesome video. I remember reading something about "All Life Stages". It looks like you're pouting in the thumbnail. 💙🙏🏼

[@AnimalDocRea]

It’s my disappointed face

[@mcbeezee2120]

Thanks for putting up those 4 charts all at once. Did a screenshot of that, and can have it to reference whenever I shop for pupper food. 👍

[@AnimalDocRea]

You are welcome!

[@Daygomadebrian]

The NRC nor AAFCO has a recognized senior lifestage. Any food that has the label is gimmicky because there are no established guidelines for senior pets’ nutrient levels. Just continue to choose a food that the Statement of Nutritional Adequacy states is for “maintenance” or “all life stages" but be careful with the nutrients of all life stages and find one that has actually been through actual feeding trials and is made by a well-known, reputable manufacturer. You'll just have to adjust as needed.

[@edschulhof6303]

The Small Animal Clinical Nutrition book, mentioned by Dr. Rea on many occasions, does list guidelines for dogs and cats. At 4:05 of this video, she shows the different requirements for different size and ages for dogs. Happy Purrsday!

[@onlineservicesolutionsunil]

Wow, I had no idea! It really makes me question what's in your pet's food.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Glad to enlighten you

[@onlineservicesolutionsunil]

@@AnimalDocRea Thank you so much

[@andieolivia]

Dr. Rea can you do one of these for cats? Personally I think senior cat food is so important because of CKD.

[@AnimalDocRea]

I can yes

[@AB-ds5nx]

Hi Dr. Rea, how do I get a membership to your channel? I’ve been searching for the Join button everywhere & I can’t find it for some reason 😅

[@AnimalDocRea]

It’s not you, apparently KZbin has a beef with Apple so if you are on IOS it doesnt show up. Here is the link:

[@AnimalDocRea]

Join this channel kzbin.info/door/BE79xtb_i2bjHa-7G4rXCQjoin

[@edschulhof6303]

There is a purr-fect food. It is homemade. Using a calculator, created by a person disparaged by Glenn, you can absolutely create a food with the exact levels of nutrients and vitamins. There is a list of recommended items to use. You simply mix in the correct ratios of foods. The calculator tells you the levels for each ingredient you add. It is mostly fresh food, but you might need a supplement or two. The correct level of thiamine for cats is difficult to achieve naturally. Liver is a great fresh food. But my cats resist eating it. This causes me all manner of problems. Another pawsome video! Happy Purrsday!

[@AnimalDocRea]

When you use such a a calculator, how does it know what is in the exact food you are using. Is it just a basic guess like: in general 5 oz of chicken contains x amount of protein. That variability is one of my major concerns with just using a calculator many find online. And does it account for the interaction between ingredients? Just curious.

[@edschulhof6303]

@@AnimalDocRea Yes it does account for interaction among ingredients. It is similar to preparing a meal for someone with any number of dietary restrictions. Trying to lose weight, a diabetic, etc. Same principle. And who else who follows you, dismissing the trolls, feeds homemade anyway? I always try to be a-mews-ing! 😺

[@AnimalDocRea]

@edschulhof6303 not sure who else feeds homemade. I have 8k subscribers so I’m sure there are some😹. I’m not apposed to it, just don’t want it to be inferior. Across the board regardless of style, I want it to be spot on.

[@edschulhof6303]

@@AnimalDocRea Oh I know. You are fair. You don't judge. You are the best! That is why I and 8.77k others follow you! It should be more. People are missing out! 😻

[@zachhazzard3060]

I wish the charts you post were easier to find (outside of your channel of course). Like the average person looking at dog food would have no idea about that resource and that those parameters even exist. So easy for people to go down the fresh food or raw food rabbit hole and have no idea what to even look for nutrient-wise.

[@AnimalDocRea]

I do what I can, but if you all like share and comment KZbin will think it’s more relevant 😜

[@edschulhof6303]

I took screen shots of all of the charts. Keep them on my phone. Use them when discussing pet nutrition with my friends. Happy Manic Monday!

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

Will you do a video about the recent findings of avian flu infecting indoor cats on raw diet?

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

"Bird Flu Is Infecting Pet Cats. Here’s What You Need to Know", August 19, 2024. Meghan Bartels, Scientific American.

[@ZaryaTheLaika]

From my understanding the process commercial raw companies use to sterilize meat of E. coli, salmonella and Listeria are more sufficient enough for killing influenza viruses.

[@danielstrenkowski922]

Hey Dr. Rea I have a question when should I swap my golden retriever from puppy food to adult food? He is currently almost 11 months old. Everywhere I have looked says 18-24 is that accurate?

[@AnimalDocRea]

I transition at 9-12 months. Growth plates are closing, and pets begin to slow activity and growth is stopping. They are no longer laying down bone.

[@danielstrenkowski922]

@@AnimalDocRea another quick question, swapping my golden retriever to adult food is any adult dog food okay or do I need to do a LB adult food?

[@AnimalDocRea]

There is no large breed adult lifestage! #pet nutrition #animalnutrition #nutritionnation kzbin.infokemtwusPgr0?feature=share

[@George.J]

Companies noticed that they can cater to all types of owners (those who own kittens/cats/senior cats and same for dogs) by creating an ALS diet instead of making ones for each life stage. It's easy and lazy for them and also probably cheaper from a financial/profit point of view.

[@AnimalDocRea]

100% agree. You can’t have a company say they are in it for nutrition and then make an ALS food…except if they make it with the numbers I suggest 😯🤔

[@George.J]

@@AnimalDocRea Maybe such formula exists somewhere… 🧐

[@AnimalDocRea]

@@George.J only in my head apparently

[@George.J]

@@AnimalDocRea 😂😂😂

[@kilofireb8584]

Hi I've been feeding fromm large breed to my 55 lb boxers but they seem to have an allergy and I'm looking for another option from fromm can you recommend one, or do a breakdown of all the fromm foods? thank you in advance for any support

[@kilofireb8584]

We think it's actually a chichen allergy. Her sister from another litter has a beef allergy so it's looking like a tough gap to fill.

[@kilofireb8584]

My wife and I decided, based off of other videos and our past history to go back to proplan. Can you maybe breakdown their line for what appropriate for a Boxer 55lbs high energy dogs. Large breed food necessary?

[@AnimalDocRea]

@kilofireb8584 There is no large breed adult lifestage! #pet nutrition #animalnutrition #nutritionnation kzbin.infokemtwusPgr0?feature=share

[@kilofireb8584]

So then, any adult pro plan formula with their allergies in mind should be fine? Was looking for the optimum nutrition for a boxer, our vet recommended a large formula for the breed, but they are not large boxers. They are full of muscle though, very strong energetic dogs.

[@AnimalDocRea]

@@kilofireb8584 I’d go with what your vet recommended. It may have nothing to do with the size but other factors

[@sm67895]

Can you do a review on FROMM dog food ?

[@AnimalDocRea]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZalhpaLoM9lp6M

[@sm67895]

@@AnimalDocRea thank you I looked it up but I no longer have a puppy I have a 2 year old chocolate lab and I am feeding FROMM But I am feeding Trout & Whitefish Recipe.

[@AnimalDocRea]

@shirleymoya9718 you use the same process but adult standards

[@sm67895]

@@AnimalDocRea thank you where do I find the adult standards?

[@AnimalDocRea]

@shirleymoya9718 any of my adult reviews

[@homesick4disney758]

We are getting a blue Merle rough collie puppy and we were going to feed her taste of the wild buffalo and venison ancient grains as that is what our almost 2 year old German shepherd eats too.. and our trainer who also works at a boutique pet food store said yes that would work.. I watched your video and you were a bit iffy on it ? Opinions ??

[@AnimalDocRea]

It would be odd to have a puppy food be ideal for an adult and vice versa, you would have to run the numbers

[@homesick4disney758]

@@AnimalDocRea we did and it didn’t work out .. now we are more confused as most don’t .. our vet doesn’t have an opinion either he states ??

[@AnimalDocRea]

Not to worry, just feed your puppy puppy food and change to adult at 9-12 months

[@natlinhurst687]

Three month great dane puppy and 14 month cane corso/pitty mix and have been looking for a kibble i can feed both with the same. I guess thats not possible? Breeder fed dane puppy Diamond Natural large breed adult and i just dont know if i should continue with it

[@AnimalDocRea]

The 14 month should be on adult and the puppy Lb puppy unless you can find one like I describe, but I don’t think it exists.

[@natlinhurst687]

​@@AnimalDocReaThank you

[@natlinhurst687]

Looked at science diet perfect digestion large breed . It might work. Cal is 0.95 and phos is 0.75 so may be low for a puppy. Protein is 25, fat 14.5, fiber 2.1. 380 k per cup

[@lisathewhitewolf]

I know Diamond Naturals gave one of my dogs mucusy diarrhea and the other one really bad bloody diarrhea, so I personally won't be using it.

[@natlinhurst687]

Would the cal/phos level be ok?

[@doriannrodriguez3149]

Is there a different nutritional chart for active/working dogs? Or are the requirements the same still for each lifestage?

[@AnimalDocRea]

Best Performance Diet?: Inukshuk dog food review kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXuccqWVqp2CotU

[@AnimalDocRea]

Whole different requirements based on the work being done

[@fengwei4164]

Talking about normal healthy dogs, I can always just cut the amount when feeding with all life stage food, right? If calculating correctly, giving the same amount of protein from a more nutrient-dense food(all life stage food, aka puppy food) only means less carb in the bowl. For example, my friend’s 30lb border collie gets 1-1.25 cup of Orijen daily instead of 2 cups of Hill’s SD, which helps him maintaining healthy, athletic shape. What do you think of my take on it?

[@AnimalDocRea]

That’s not correct, energy density is accounted for in the parameters presented. Conversions are done to make all goods equivalent on a DMB. So no, feeding less will proportionally provide less of all nutrients and render a deficiency in some parameters. In your example, Orijen is not nutritionally dense, it has the same if not lower ME than the SD mentioned ( standards based on 3500-4000 ME). Energy density and caloric density are two very different parameters.

[@fengwei4164]

@@AnimalDocRea Thank you for the reply. But there is something I disagree. Orijen(3920kcal/kg) generally has 10% higher ME than SD(3617 kcal/kg). I took one popular food from each brand and did a careful conversion for every listed nutrient. I couldn't see any deficiency. Orijen exceeds almost in every nutrient except total kcal. Doesn't it prove that Orijen is a nutrient-denser choice? I know excessiveness can be bad but it is another aspect. I emailed you the detailed comparison I did.

[@AnimalDocRea]

As long as a food is between 3500-4000 it’s not considered nutrient dense and the published numbers I use apply. Those numbers are based on a ME between 3500-4000. I’ve not received you me email to review your maths, but will be on the lookout. It doesn’t matter that the goods are different ME to each other, as we are evaluating goods against the standards Wich do not require a conversion at that ME. As far as deficiencies, that occurs when you take a food and lower the quantity fed below the recommended calorie allotment because it reduces all the nutrients fed because these are on percents. Unless of course you are using the per/kcal basis Wich is a different matter.

[@AnimalDocRea]

Ok yeah, you are giving me data in grams. We are talking about two different things. Where did you get those numbers in grams. I use % on a dry matter basis so we are talking two different things here

[@fengwei4164]

@@AnimalDocRea I understand DM percentage is an easier way to evaluate . However percentage doesn’t make much sense without accounting feeding amount(these two brand have much different suggesting amount). I used grams instead of cups for better accuracy since kibbles have different grams/cup due to shape and content. Orijen is 125g/cup and SD is 100g/cup. (These are derived from their official website) Combining Guaranteed analysis table and feeding chart, I come out with the actual grams of each nutrient, which made the table I sent you.

[@PetFoodPuzzleGuy]

lol! I still like your Nutrition National and my Nutrition Mission names! I doubt the food you described exists but our subscribers are awfully great researchers! Let’s see!

[@AnimalDocRea]

It could be a winner if it does!

[@Jaycv-dq3rg]

I don't think there all life stage foods that fit in the chart

[@AnimalDocRea]

Me neither, the senior parameters are very strict. But if a compress truly being honest in that you can feed the food the whole life, that’s what it would need to be.

[@Jaycv-dq3rg]

The research I have did it the phosphorus and calcium that to high alot dog foods have 1.3 to 1.6 on phosphorus and calcium

[@AnimalDocRea]

Yes that’s too high for an adult

[@Jay_dee915]

Great INFO 🐾💯