What The Prequels Did RIGHT! (And The Sequels Did Wrong!)

[@Jedwerd]

let me know if you liked this video or not, because I honestly debated even publishing it. I think it could have been better, but I'm working on a video that I'm really psyched for, so I want to spend more of my time on that. Thanks for watching!

[@donkeykong1357]

W vid

[@Jedwerd]

thanks champ

[@donkeykong1357]

@@Jedwerd yes sir

[@gabiclothing]

I have a Video idea 💡 : The good thinks Disney made to stare wars!

[@A2kry]

I like it cuz the prequels are epic

[@Blimbus-Blombo]

Also Palpatine ensured that the jedi starfighters didn't have built in hyperspace so that he could easily keep any jedi from running after order 66. I think it was a nice detail George added that made it harder to find ways for jedj to escape after order 66.

[@Jedwerd]

I wouldn't have thought that Palpatine had that much control over the Jedi

[@Blimbus-Blombo]

@@Jedwerd ill have to look for it but he was very influential in the economical world, so I wouldn't be surprised if he had influence over manufacturers of weapons, ships, etc. They were purchased for the generals of the grand army of the republic who's spending would be approved by the chancellor too.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

No he didn't. Hyperdrives just weren't as advanced in the prequels as they were in the OT.

[@JohnathanRitter]

@@vetarlittorf1807 Another note was of costs, and weight. Adding hyperdrive would of added more cost to the craft, especially since majority of them didn't even have shields.

[@legoman5491]

​@@Jedwerdthe sith control everything - Count Dooku

[@EbagStudios]

The AT-M6's legs have sharp edges on its front legs that cut any wires that might be used to trip it. But I find it funny that we don't even get to see that in action lol.

[@Jedwerd]

True

[@madhattermaker622]

1:27 I just assumed the reason why Obi-Wan's ship needed something external to go into hyper speed was because it would've been too small to fit one in, and if they did fit one in then it would've resulting in the ship being bigger and less agile etc.

[@andrasbesenyei8923]

It could also be a reason, i mean x-wings that have a hyperdrive are way way way larger.

[@redpuffey7798]

@@andrasbesenyei8923 X-Wings were designed much later than Delta 7 interceptors. This probably means that hyperdrives got more affordable and smaller, therefore able to be fitted into an X-Wing

[@garegos7184]

@@redpuffey7798 no, xwings had a different purpose than jedi starfighters, they were ambush attack space ships which needed to have a hyperdrive to drop in on empire ships shoot em up and get out of there, no time for hyperdrive ring also the ship needed to be big to be able to have the firepower to damage such a large ship as a star destroyer. Jedi fighters were designed with jedis in mind, fast, aggile little fighters were they could use the force better to support their flying, and these ships were used more to get around and defend a planet than to ambush, and if an ambush was needed they had the pre star destroyer to deliver the smaller ships when needed, and even then it was pretty much only the jedi ships that needed that hyperdrive ring

[@skatepunk4853]

@@redpuffey7798 In military terms, Interceptors are light aircraft used to shoot down enemy aircraft before they can complete their mission (namely, bombing the carrier of base the interceptors are launched from). Fighters, meanwhile, are more balanced aircraft designed to fly further distances in order to attack enemy targets (and defend bombers from interceptors while THEY bomb the enemy's carriers and bases). "Jedi Starfighters" were just a nickname, the Delta-7's were designed with a different role than the X-Wings. The Delta's were intended to launch from Venators, and then return when they were done without going too far. When we see them being used beyond that (eg, Obi-Wan going to Geonosis), they're being used outside the norm, which is why they need external addons to do so.

[@ziobelle87]

Jedi figher without hyperspace ring is a short range fighter unable to jump, just like they say in "A new hope" about tie fighters, when they spotted one of those and said "the base can't be far"

[@dalewilliams4451]

something you may find interesting is the episode 2 jedi starfighter and the episode 3 starfighters were the predecessors to the tie fighter model starfighters and the tie fighters also did not have hyper drives and you can even see the episode 3 starfighters had the same window design in the front of the cockpit that the tie fighters later had and instead of hyperdrive mounting rigs they had small hyperdrive transport ships used to take tie fighters across the galaxy.

[@ignazioacerenza9881]

The hyperspace ring is in fact not because technology advanced in the 15 year span between trilogies (tech is pretty stagnant in the star wars universe tbh) but rather it's because Lucas is grounding the starfighter design and adding limitations to what they can do. He's basically saying Jedi Starfighters are designed to make the best use of the force and so they need to be faster, nimbler and lighter than regular ships. And so the hyperspace portion of the ship is outsourced to these rings. Other than that I agree with mostly everything in the video. Lucas always took us somewhere new. That energy is missing from the sequels.

[@Beethoven8335]

Lol, no he's not. It's just because of the time difference and advancement in technology. "In fact" shouldn't be followed by something that you completely made up

[@ignazioacerenza9881]

@@Beethoven8335 Read and weep: "Manufactured by Kuat Systems Engineering, the Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light interceptor was a Jedi-used starfighter that saw extensive action during the last years of the Galactic Republic, and was designed specifically with the Jedi in mind. The Delta-7's designers worked with the Jedi Order to create a starfighter with fewer internal systems than other starships, and focused on making the controls as responsive as possible due to the Jedi's Force-sensitive capabilities." The reason the drive is outsourced to the ring is so that pilots that have lightning fast reflexes can make actual use of those reflexes. A fast ship with minimal components will handle better. Another argument that completely blows your idea out of the water is that internal hyperspace was already available in the clone wars. Y wings are old clone war era ships that have had their armor plating removed for better maintenance. So hush.

[@ironninja259]

@@Beethoven8335 No, he's right. Many small ships in the prequel era did have hyperdrives (ARC 170, Mandalorian Gauntlet). Many fighters during the Original Trilogy era didn't have hyperdrives (Most TIE models). The reason for the lack of hyperdrives on these ships is that hyperdrives are heavy and aren't required for the role they are designed for. Most ships without hyperdrives have carrier ships or are mainly used for defence and are designed to be nimble and operate within a fleet. Most ships with hyperdrives are designed to operate independently, without a carrier ship, either for hit-and-run attacks or long-range recon.

[@borgurman]

Or maybe palpatine intentionally made the kuat engineers not add hyperdrives to the jedi fighters so they would be easy prey for when order 66 came around

[@ignazioacerenza9881]

@@ironninja259 Yeah dipshit doesn't know his star wars. But at least he shut the fuck up when told to.

[@Dare_To_Game]

Tie fighters didn't have a built in hyper drive. Obi Wan says so before discovering the death star in a New Hope.

[@John_the_Paul]

To be fair, it’s not like they really need one.

[@runisa]

Tie fighters would be to expensive if each one had a hyperdrive and the empire is not willing to pay that much for a ship that will crash in 5 seconds

[@lecorbeauanonyme8458]

@@runisa Sorry, but I have to say this is ridiculous, Tie Fighters aren't terrible, in fact, they're fairly decent fighters, it is but the plot armor and the lack of tactic that makes them terrible, looking back at some aspects of them, they are great multi-purpose starfighters, and I am only talking about the standard tie fighter, not the specialized or upgraded versions. Yet I have to say you are right about the part with the "too expensive" part.

[@runisa]

@@lecorbeauanonyme8458 I never said the were terrible or I didn’t mean to say that I’m just saying there not as good as they could be, compared to other ships and stuff i personally think it’s one of those quantity over quality type thing and in some of the books they just use tie fighters to fly over the ground on planets to show dominance so I wonder if they spent money on tie fighters making that sound. I can see palpatine building ship and equipment to strike fear in people

[@lecorbeauanonyme8458]

@@runisa Then I must've miss understood, btw, he built destroyer for fear, but yeah, it's true, look at andor the serie, when they all get on the ground after seeing a tie.

[@StrikerEureka13]

4:14. That new At-At thing has parts on its legs that cut any cables it comes in contact with, meaning they can't be tripped like they were in ESB. That is the only example of a cool improvement in technology I can think of for all of the sequels

[@thesnazzycomet]

I find it amazing how the resistance bombers were supposed to be based off of the legendary B-29 superfortress, but the final, terrible design is what we got

[@senorbolainas2991]

The ghost from rebels was a much better ship based on the B-29. Even as a civilian cargo ship it is still faster than a bomber designed specifically for warfare

[@Myrrdhin83]

I think they were just misused. Those should be used on ground target because bomb should not "fall" in space unless they are thrown in a perpendicular direction from the movement of the ship. which is a pretty weird way to launch things in space.

[@MadHax-wt5tl]

@@Myrrdhin83 Falling bombs in space, that bugged me so much. Normally I'd try and think of an explanation, like maybe the bad guys ship was so big it generated its own gravity. But no, that bucket of vomit movie deserves no benefit of the doubt.

[@thesnazzycomet]

@@Myrrdhin83 I think the bombers had gravity inside so they had propulsion when launched into space

[@victorramos9670]

​@@MadHax-wt5tlIt is stated that bombs are sent by magnetic fields...

[@iamalexGames]

Actually, I like the prequel much more than the original teilogy:) The original ones look more oike a tale, while the prequel rises more serious topics, plus really charming transition of Anakin

[@lewisgrant7622]

I honestly think at least to some degree back then. I think some people were too harsh with the prequels

[@Soggy1_1Pancake]

I will say that even though the AT-AT in the sequels look awful, I do like how they have little spikes on the front of their leg to cut cables that try to wrap around the legs.

[@CrazyCappy22]

I think the point of the hyper drive loop thing was because then it would have been harder to escape during order 66

[@mannydavis7708]

An entire planet covered with forests. An entire planet covered in sand. An entire planet covered with city. An entire planet covered in water. An entire planet covered in volcanos.

[@bellethilrancthalion1109]

Even in the very first movie, A New Hope, they comment on how a TIE fighter couldn’t get so far into space. It would have to be coming from some sort of base. Or moon. Or space station. :)

[@Justin-tg7xn]

But First order tie fighters have hyper drive.

[@Blinix2]

And so simple for those threaded speeders, I imagine on my headcanon that it would have been a compromise. A place where having speeders is just not safe enough for troopers (they get shot and killed a lot), so they get modified to be threaded and heavier in order to acomodate a small portable shield to increase survival (clone comandos already had personal shields) while keeping the speed with a combination of antri-grav and thrusters, thus making more sense as to why they have a flying trooper (for more agile targets or extreme terrain while the vehicle provides support). Imagine that, Rey and company shooting and the troopers just for their blaser to do nothing, Finn (actually being an ex-trooper knowing all the basic military tech and not a bumbling fool) going like "Stop, theres no use! those have shields, we need something bigger to damage them!" then someone else being like "lets use the terrain to our advantage" . A simple change making infinite more sense.

[@robertdefoe2396]

Jedwerd: "They should've used Y-Wings." B-Wing: "Am I a joke to you!?!"

[@ethenallen1388]

Bomber technology in the books did evolve after the fall of the Empire, both the upgraded B-Wing and the K-Wing, which actually shows how lazy the folks working on the sequels were. They had whole libraries of material to draw on and never used it.

[@Deuteromis]

Yeah, but Disney used the BS excuse that it would be hard to transition the EU to film.

[@kennetheisenbraun5217]

​@z82m76 don't forget Kennedys excuse of "it doesn't exist"

[@justinbombach9873]

The B-Wing was designed before A New Hope, I thought?

[@ethenallen1388]

@@justinbombach9873 I go by the movies and the B-Wings only appeared in Return of the Jedi.

[@skatepunk4853]

@@justinbombach9873 It was being worked on at that time, and early, prototype-y versions existed, but it wasn't in a fully finished, usable state until ROTJ.

[@Aleph3575]

1:46 Cuz there is. I remember having an entire bookshelf of books that were basically just "Star Wars Tech" books. No story, no narrative, just the schematics of ships, weapons, computers from the Star Wars universe.

[@barrybend7189]

You can even compare it to the Kotor games. Ship wise we had the Hammerhead cruiser ( Endar Spire), Interdictor ( leviathan )cruiser, Centurion class battleship ( Ravager), Dynamic class freighter( Ebon Hawk), Aurek strike fighter and the Sith Fighter. Everything was comparable but also different in many ways to the prequels and OT trilogy tech and aesthetic.

[@RahulPatel-og2ke]

I always viewed the clunky bombers as an example of how poorly equipped the Resistance was compared to the First Order.

[@quentincoetzee4313]

Honestly, I disagree with Kylo's lightsaber being a win. Sure it might be cool to look at, but as soon as you start thinking about it, that seems like a very risky weapon to wield even by the standards of a lightsaber. The main thing that makes that lightsaber utterly stupid is the crossguard: normal crossguards are supposed to protect you from an enemy's blade, but this one feels more like it's going to burn a hole in your wrist if you aren't extremely careful. And the crossguard doesn't even protect the lightsaber chassis - there's still an exposed bit that an opposing lightsaber can easily cut through and destroy yours entirely. It feels like if they really wanted to make a crossguard lightsaber, there are other ways of doing it. One that comes to mind is to fashion the crossguard out of a lightsaber-resistant material (like Cortosis from the Jedi Knight games) and attach it to the lightsaber hilt. Plus, that lightsaber-resistant mineral is extremely rare, so it would make sense why you'd only see one lightsaber of this type. The lit-up-crossguard saber feels like another instance where Disney didn't even know what they were doing.

[@sleepdeep305]

They knew exactly what they were doing. Hell, he even got burned from the cross guard himself a little bit.

[@ethenallen1388]

It seems to me that the jagged blade and "cross hilt" would be signs that the crystal was damaged, making the weapon as likely to kill the wielder as whomever it's used against. Any comments?

[@looptithegamer7563]

I think that the cross guard type lightsaber that kylo uses was introduce in star wars rebels, but the broken looking affect of the blade is new I think

[@ObiWanKenobi678]

Actually hyperspace rings were for a safety feature,if a ship got stolen,they wouldn't be able to get far without a hyperdrive

[@senorbolainas2991]

Also the delta 7 and eta actis 2 were designed to be agyle, light and very very fast. Adding a hyperdrive would have slowed down the ship, making it impossible to fulfil its role as an interceptor.

[@ObiWanKenobi678]

@@senorbolainas2991 plus it was too small to actually fit in a hyperdrive

[@demi-femme4821]

The Resurgent is a good continuation of the ISD. It's visibly a Star Destroyer, but it has a very unique look with the negative space and it visually addresses one of the big flaws of the ISD: the overexposed bridge tower. The bridge of the ISD is flat and squat, which means that there won't be a repeat of the Exectuor incident. It's a simple way of showing how the First Order has taken its ship design to the next level and addressed the mistakes of the past. The AT-M6's bulkier legs also give an impression of strength opposite to the skinny legs of the AT-AT, although I personally would have included a scene where the Resistance tries the old cable trick and the M6 just breaks it with sheer force to demonstrate this to the audience.

[@Jedwerd]

good idea, too bad Rian Johnson didn't think of it

[@tonyfendex2558]

Sorry, but very few care about whatever Disney Star Wars brought to the table!!! Disney Star Wars is completely FORGETTABLE!!

[@HeheHehe-pg2xd]

The resurgent was a cool and good ship. Too bad the idiot writers decided to make the commanders commanding the ships really incompetent and dumb

[@HeheHehe-pg2xd]

​@@tonyfendex2558 rogue one is very good, too bad the sequels are trash

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

I don’t like TLJ but that cable idea is a good idea gotta admit

[@bingrobertson1453]

The cross guard lightsaber appeared in Star Wars Rebels and Comics before Star Wars the Force Awakens came out.

[@the23rdradiotower41]

3:13 I did hear an interesting bit of lore that explains the treads that in the time between the empire and first order Anti-repulsor technology was created similar to how hovercraft can’t get through shields. So maybe that explains the treadspeeders a bit?

[@victoriaanne6332]

Great video! Something you didn’t mention but I feel is along the same lines of technology not advancing or even regressing in the sequels is Luke’s prosthetic. In empire strikes back his robotic hand is hyper realistic so much so it looks exactly like a real hand. This was probably due to real life limitations in technology and funds but it works for the sci fi aesthetic. Then in attack of the clones anakin’s hand is much more mechanical and robotic. They probably had more money and technology and wanted to demonstrate that they could make a realistic prosthetic. But it still works with the lore because it takes place many years before like gets his prosthetic so it makes sense that the prosthetic isn’t as advanced or realistic. Then in the last Jedi Luke’s prosthetic again looks very robotic and not at all like a real hand. Esb takes place decades prior and at the time his prosthetic was built they were rebels on the run with limited resources. But the prosthetic still looks better and more realistic than the one in the last Jedi. What happened? Why does he have a different prosthetic anyway and why does it look worse than his old one? Technology should’ve advanced plus luke had won the war against the war so he should have had plenty of resources to get another advanced prosthetic.

[@guilhermezan]

Bombers dropping bombs in space is honestly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen on this saga.. it's insulting

[@MRY5545]

This guys speaks for all us outspoken Star Wars fans

[@anime_world6684]

I’m glad that one KZbinr made a almost perfect rewrite of the sequels

[@oss182]

In my opinion, the prequels had a great vision and a good story to tell, something people could be invested in and that could be expanded on like the "Clone Wars" show and some video-games did, that's why fans have appreciated them with time and overlooked their flaws as films. In contrast, the sequels never had a vision, a plan, or a well-thought-out continuity, you can't build upon them and it's impossible to overlook their flaws, and for that they will be remembered as nothing but soulless products.

[@probablyink4218]

the sad thing is that disney didnt even invent that lightsaber, it was in legends

[@evgenyvarganov1892]

It is perfectly reasonable for the technology to be the same or even worse in 30 years. First of all, the tech level in SW universe is generally stagnant: we kinda see little to no advancements since the Old Republic time, which was like a 1000 years ago. So probably they decided it's not worth it to innovate or hit some hard limit. Second, the last trilogy takes place after two major cataclysms and reconfigurations of the galaxy: first the Clone Wars and Republic->Empire transition, then the fall of the Empire. We don't actually know the state in which the galaxy was after these, but it's not far fetched to assume that some tech was lost, forgotten or just went out of use. It takes time to rebuild. Look at the real history examples: after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, tech level dropped significantly. People forgot how to build certain things (like dams in Po valley) or just stopped building them for some reasons: cost, availability of materials, lack of skilled workers or lack of demand. There could easily be something similar here. Concerning different worlds: well, the world where Luke lived felt pretty unique. Also I disagree the the casino planet is "another Naboo". Don't get me wrong, the new trilogy is terrible, the worldbuilding is awful, the casino planet feels like a side quest hardly connected to the story at all. But not for the reasons discussed in the video.

[@YourIngamePilot]

Loved the video, but one thing, at 4:32, Kylo Ren's crossguard lightsaber isn't the first time we see it. We also see one that's green but doesn't work for more than a few seconds in Rebels when Ezra, Kanan, and Ahsoka travel to the sith temple and find *formerly darth, now just* Maul. Edit: I mean yes, the blade is crackly, but the crossguard itself is the same.

[@bocktordaytona5656]

The sequels are horrible but the solo and rouge one had new and interesting stuff like more troopers, and vehicles, and something that I really enjoy because it makes sw universe more beliveable "logistics" like transport ships made for transport stuff from a point to b point, wich is a thing the prequels and the original ones "the remastered ones" had.... OH and also the mandalorian had cool stuff also. But yep sw its now under Disney really politic and not very inventing sometimes, but when they do Omg please give me 5 mudtroopers and 2 kylo ren lightsabers pls

[@Myrrdhin83]

Car and land vehicule are move by the friction between the tire and the soil. It's the friction that give the tire grip in order to transfert angular momentum from the wheel into translation movement by having the wheel pushing on the ground. Here friction actually helps.

[@EmeraldJaguar]

Also, the seismic charges have the best sound ever.

[@toptiergaming6900]

2:32 there is also the minuritrisation of superlasers (which i expected but not to such an insane degree) and air defence missiles on the Recusant class

[@Private.Willie.Stroker]

Something that alot of people also dont realize is that the og 3 prequel villains foreshadowed anakin... Maul his hatred to stay alive, dooku losing faith in the order, amd grievous being more machine than man

[@d1arkblue]

I did like the idea of the Resurgent class Star Destroyer. It is a great hybrid between the Venator Class and the Imperial Class. Having the carrier capability of the Venator and the firepower of a Imperial Class

[@splat-trainproductions]

I respectfully disagree with the Resurgent class. It doesn't even look like the superior Venator, it's just an edgier version of the ISD with its skeleton exposed. And the Mandator IV dreadnought made it worse with both its terrible design and the fact that the self-destruct button is literally on the surface of the thing. No wonder why they just used the ISDs for Episode 9.

[@A2kry]

Prequels are the best

[@Jedwerd]

i do enjoy the prequels a good amount

[@Darthvader-zy5uo]

This guy is so underrated

[@Jedwerd]

thanks champ

[@RicJiang]

Also notice that the bombers are able to drop bombs in space despite there being no gravity 😂😂😂

[@calebbarnhouse496]

I'd like to mention the Delta, as a jedi starfighter it is made as light as possible, they had rings because it was a pretty good way to boost power outside of combat, which is the only time jedi really need to hit it into hyperspace, however even in the time of the OT many ships didn't have hyperdrives, like no Ties had anything except sublight engines, and the rebellion with its hit and run tactics placed a high reliance on being able to get starfighters out of a situation quickly, so most of them had hyperdrives, but even then the A wing didn't have them, this is because technology while it did advance between prequel to original didn't advance that much, and in some ways regressed though how much is simply due to technology limitations IRL is hard to say, but ultimately while things are better its marginal and there's no short list of equipment with old tech that works better then the new equipment, but was shelved because of the fighting the last war syndrome, where those would be very powerful weapons

[@andrewlinnen7896]

A-Wings had hyperdrives. We see A-Wings jumping into hyperspace alongside the Millenium Falcon, X-Wings, Y-Wings, and B-Wings when they're making the jump from Sullest to Endor, as well as when they're coming out of hyperspace when they arrive at the 2nd Death Star above the planet's forest moon.

[@justinbombach9873]

Any technology regression could be "blamed" on the Rebellion's relative lack of resources, and the Empire being "careless". The Empire didn't care about their pilots, so they didn't spend the extra Imperial Credits on shields or a Hyperdrive for their TIE Fighters, and it makes sense. Either of those would make it a lot easier for their pilots to decide to rebel or escape.

[@kennyrosenyc]

Did X-Wings have hyperdrive? I don't remember, but it wouldn't make sense that they would as they weren't really made for long voyages. I don't know why any short-range ship would have hyperdrive. The real elephant in the room is the whole 'jumping into hyperspace through a destroyer to completely demolish it' thing. Why didn't anybody figure that out before? The rebels could have had an entire army of drone ships that just searched for destroyers and jumped into hyperspace through them instead of hiding and running from them all the time.

[@crazyneonrx348]

It has a hyperdrive. And that's because asides from the fighter purpose, it worked as a patrol vehicle to enforce the law around systems and had to jump from one planet to the other very fast.

[@JamesRedekop]

Yes -- Luke wouldn't've been able to reach Degobah in Empire otherwise.

[@Jedwerd]

Luke's x-wing had hyperdrive. Remember he went to dagaobah from hoth?

[@drewmclean163]

Most ships of the Rebellion, even fighters, had hyperdrives. This facilitates more guerilla-style tactics; jump in, hit, jump out. Compare with the Empire: bring *all* the toys in one big box, they don't need individual transport.

[@LOL_Garrus]

Each new world introduced by Lucas had it's own personality and style. You could look at pictures or hear descriptions and immediately know what planet it is. Those were reinforced by unique landscapes, species, architecture, ships, etc. and explored even deeper in related media (video games, novels, comics, etc) The sequel movies have nothing memorable about the new locations, they are either based off of existing ideas or generic sci-fi world with nothing memorable about it. Probably the only world with something unique was that one that had the red dirt under the surface. No imagination or creativity. And that applies to other Disney made Star Wars locales as well.

[@loloverlord1664]

You are absolutly right about the planets. What disgust me is: they have no excuse about this lack of imagination. The original trilogy came out when we couldn't prove the existence of a single exoplanet. Not one! When the prelogy came out, exoplanets were officially discovered for a few years already, and it was stunning! There was already some kind of planets we never thought of: hot jupiters and weird, small nepttunes. But when the disneylogy came out, exoplanets wasn't a new thing anymore. It was a booming research field, hundreds of new astrophysicists already got their PhD by studying exoplanets, they were detected by dozens using new instruments all over the world and new space telescopes were launched, explicitely dedicated to exoplanet detection. We had news of so many incredible things: carbonic planets, dead planets, gas giants where it can rain melted glass sideway in huge hurricanes... So many visuals to create, so many possibilities... And all they did was recasting a sand planet, a forest planet (because hey: it's cheaper to find a forest), and they change the frozen planet to a salt planet (biggest effort)... And it was a Disney super-producion: they had the budget, probably the highest available for science-fiction at this moment, and they lacked guidance and imagination, when they had every ressource available...

[@Hero._-]

Bro said that “in irl lightning McQueen would be a slow car because there’s to much friction with the ground” 💀💀 bro doesn’t understand how grip and the output of a car work together

[@NinPossible]

I really get your point. That’s why the scene Rey eating her dinner really amazed me. That might be the only new thing in SW universe.

[@jackmaney4276]

2:30 there's also the addition of a rear turret to TIE fighters in TFA. But, honestly, the entire franchise is inconsistent about technological advancements. Four thousand years ago on Earth, we were using clubs, bronze swords, slings, and short bows. However, in the Old Republic era, the only major changes are...well...ships were blockier back then. And I guess blasters didn't do as much damage, since people used to have personal shields, and those are long gone by the time of the prequels.

[@batuhangocer6642]

Those TİE’s are basically TIE/ag’s with shields and Tie fighter wings. And there was at least one dark age between Ol Republic and movies that caused a technological regression.

[@Duckomemer-dd2lg]

1 thing that the original trilogy did amazingly awesomely spectacularly cool (better than prequels and sequels) is the fact that they never had a safety net. In the prequels, anakin and obi wan were never alone in the fight, because they always had the republic. Their whole lives were worked out for them. In the sequels, every time when things looked bad, the resistance would save the day. But in the originals, han and leia were pretty much the best of the best. The ONLY hope of the rebels, and when things were scary, they saved the day. Not yoda, not the resistance, not a whole new fleet, them.

[@justinbombach9873]

Yeah, that's what made each trilogy interesting. If the Prequel Trilogy had been a normal good guys vs bad guys trilogy, then yes, the fact that there were 10,000 other Jedi that they could call for backup, and thousands of other planets with armies that they could contact if needed, like the Mandalorians, Gungans, Wookies, Mon Cala, etc. (And of course the clones after Episode II) The Prequels were different, though, the whole reason for the movies' existence was to show the downfall of the Republic. If it was just the Republic and the Jedi vs the Trade Federation, or the Separatists, or something else, it would be too easy and boring, yes. But that was never going to happen, because Palpatine was tearing apart the Republic from the inside.

[@TheeChaste]

except honestly, never felt nervous for the characters in the OG trilogy, maybe when luke v darth but other wise the empire devoled into useless soldiers, terrible shots, and laughably bad pilots

[@DONG-502]

@@TheeChaste cope

[@loloverlord1664]

Saying that the disneylogy failed in worldbuilding is honnestly one of the kindest thing I've heard about those movies. It's also (and foremost) a huge failure in writing, story, characters (they don't have an arc or a completely stupid one...) But you're right: they also failed the worldbuilding.

[@agentdeadshot87]

Kylo Ren’s light saber type was seen in Star Wars rebels

[@KashK-y1s]

Great video but at the end in one brief moment in season 2 of Rebels when Ezra, Ahsoka and Jan are on Malachor he picks up a jedi saber with the same design as Kylo's from a past war versus the Sith so Disney even copied that.

[@senorbolainas2991]

That rebels episode came out after the force awakens bro

[@kadenosgood6963]

Could have made it 5 seconds prequels everything sequels everything

[@xinguan2681]

2:47 I think you also failed to mention that the bombers are also “exposed”. The bomb bay doors are open. You can see that in a scene in the Last Jedi

[@mastersomethingnu6997]

Kylo Ren’s lightsaber is not unique, the cross-guard lightsaber was already a thing it was just absent from the movies and the unstable crystal that makes the lightsaber look like it’s made of fire was also already a thing; again, just hadn’t made an appearance in movies. 4:39

[@Adam4s]

The sequels also introduced the jet pack - even though they’ve been using them since the Clone Wars.

[@zachary4670]

But guys they fly now

[@batuhangocer6642]

They are actually using them for much longer. I don’t remember the exact date but it was mentioned the Republic Jet Troopers were a distinguished unit by the time of Seventh Alsakan Conflict roughly 11.000 years ago.

[@kevinschmidt8101]

well, we were able to see jetpacks in the original trilogy. Not on the stormtroopers but they were there. So again nothing really new

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

THEY FLY NOW?!?!

[@splat-trainproductions]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv They flew BEFORE!!!

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

I think the justification for the tread-speeders was that they weren't susceptible to their repulsorlifts being jammed...which...then why didn't we ever see one actually being jammed? That chase would have been perfect to demonstrate repulsorlift jamming, but instead the only time it even gets mentioned is a one-off scene later that is used to "shock" people that they were using horses instead of speeders.

[@tjk-goix8513]

They could have done a water- no. Lava- no. Uhhhh Sand- NO. UGHHH WHY IS THIS HARDDD

[@JacobEricsen]

The prequels were 60% politics, 40% wars

[@leroyjenkins4115]

Don't forget the completely nonsensical and unscientific Starkiller Base. If someone can explain how that thing makes any sense, please do so. I never understood the hate Lucas got for the prequels. Were they perfect, no. Were they good and did new things while expanding the Star Wars universe, yes. Disney hasn't made a good Star Wars movie yet, besides Rogue One.

[@bellethilrancthalion1109]

Can we talk about how stupid it is for bombs to be dropped. In space. Where there’s no gravity to pull them down.

[@robot3759]

The main problem with the sequels IMO isn't really the lack of different planets or tech. I think we can all agree that The Clone Wars was amazing and the only super different worlds and tech I remember were the Malevolence's Ion Cannon and the crystal planet Christophsis. What made the sequels bad is that it told a story no one cared about. We like the prequels because it tells the story of Darth Vader, a story that was severely lacking in the original trilogy. We like the Clone Wars because it tells stories we are curious about with regards to things like anyone figuring out about Order 66 before it happened or how the Clones were trained. Similarly, series' like The Mandalorian are liked because they directly answer questions about what happened directly after the Empire fell. The sequels had none of this going for them. They were from the outset telling a story that no one could possibly care about because Rey was never a character in any lore up until the release of The Force Awakens. The story takes place so far after the fall of the Empire that no one is invested because there was no buildup, it would be like dropping someone in the middle of the Siege of Geonosis arc after watching only The Phantom Menace and expecting they would like it. We don't like the sequels because they have no importance to they story we love.

[@MrNintoku]

Well there's no friction from the ground there is still friction from the air particles around it, but I digress. Less friction = more efficient energy use = more power for speed.

[@dragonling748]

With the hyperspace rings, the idea behind the Jedi fighter is that it's super manoeuvrable to allow Jedi to leverage their force enhanced reflexes. To make this happen, everything was stripped out including the hyperdrive, making the craft a single purpose fighter. But that still lends to your argument, everything done pre Disney, had meaning and world building behind it.

[@ParuaEllison]

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[@ArrowsOfGod]

I enjoy your videos my man! I subbed because I know it helps. You should just make them longer and go more in depth, you're talented at what you do!

[@jonathonrodriguezthomas6457]

One thing that really divides the sequel and prequel trilogies, to me at least, is the ships involved. In the prequels we got several new ships from as big as the Lucrehulk which in the lore was a modified freighter to the Actis series which were light, purpose-built Jedi starfighters that would precede the TIE series, and in the third movie specifically we got the ARC-170, the Tri-droid, the Munificent Class, the Recusant Class, the Providence Class, and the Venator Class. Every ship listed would go on to either influence later ships used in the Galactic Civil War or were modified for combat use from everyday business use. In the sequels we got newer X wings, newer A wings, new TIE fighters, that's just for the fighter records. Luckily for capital ships we got a few new designs from the Resurgent Class (a personal favorite) to the Virgillia Class, to whatever the was, the most unfortunate thing about the sequels was the fact that almost everything felt like a reskin, the setting had huge potential for new designs and looks but they just didn't capitalize on it.

[@cillianennis9921]

There is one advancement in tech I can think of which is the ability for the deathstar laser to be made small enough to fit on destroyers but any improvement to the tech is mitigated by the fact all the ships need to be flewn together from this idea which I saw in some old republic comic where the Mandalorians (it was set in the Mandalorian war that took place before Revan's sith empire) use it to destroy the planet coresaunt by taking it over. Its in a graphic novel which included the girl who gets frozen in time with the amulet responsible for the racnos plague. A great read I might find it just to remind myself what good star Wars world building is like. (sorry for any Sci-fi words misspelled I have no clue how to spell them as well they aren't words in a sense so auto corect is a bit annoying but if you know you should be able to guess.)

[@MM-qz3eh]

the worst bit for me was "they fly now" , really if only jetpoacks had existed since at least revan

[@MrNormal321]

Tbf in the sequels the main characters spend most of their time in space

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

Not only that there are less aliens in the sequels than the prequels.. in a new hope we see a bunch of diffrent species of aliens in empire strikes back we see ugnaughts in cloud city and yoda... in return of the jedi we see all the aliens that work for jabba... in episode 1 we see gungans in episode 2 we see geonosians and some others, in episode 3 again we see more aliens....

[@imperialguardproductions]

Well the prequels was made by a guy who loved his creation and the sequels were made by people who use SW to push their agendas over telling stories.

[@denistardif6650]

I like your video but in the original trilogy in the first movie a new hope Han said a line somthing like (they will not be able to follow us into hyperdrive) when saying this he was talking about the TIE fighters who don't have a hyperdrive like the X-Wing ships who have 4 big thrusters and the entire back of the ship is were the hyperdrive is R2-D2 is essentially plugged to the X-wings hyperdrive. TIE fighters, jedi fighters and vulture droids did not have hyperdrives because there was no place to actually put it. Just to give you an example of how large hyperdrive engines are on the millennium falcon the entire back of the ship has no storage just engine almost half of the frigate is simply room for the 2 seperate hyperdrives in the ship along with the engine.

[@JacobReynolds-c4x]

One of the things I liked about the prequels and clone wars were the starships, and the complex way they landed

[@tripleh327]

Also in a universe where hovering tecnology exist even for tanks(see csi droid tanks) walkers are simply worse Especially star war walkers with their extremely long leg and incredibly precarious center of gravity

[@TehAntares]

Praise should be given to the star dreadnought as well. We finally got a massive warship with some actual big menacing super guns (capable of penetrating planetary shields), instead of upscaled star destroyer like the Executor was.

[@p5ychojoe138]

I only have two arguments against. Tech advancement has never really been that big of a thing in Star Wars. Even in the pre-disney suff. Sure sometimes there's a dark age, but tech overall stays pretty stagnant just with something being super crazy when it's first introduced but otherwise normal and quickly put in that spot after a few new movies/shows especially if a less important or worse, an expendable character is put in the cockpit. Like the Jedi Starfighters were super stripped down even with many safety features missing, one could argue they were the motorcycles of space fighters, and the hyperdrive system would of just added weight and made the ship bulkier, which is proven by the Naboo fighters which are of similiar size but were hyperdrive capable. And to play the devil's advocate about the resistance bomber. They could have used anything else as a bomber, ANYTHING, plenty of ships in all of starwars lore that could fit the role or be modded to do it the same way but been more capable of evasion and taking hits, at the very least avoiding turbolaser fire which is what the Y-wing was good for. Now the thing about the Resistance was that they had almost no fiscal support as compared to the Rebel Allaince. The fact they had the latest X-wings and what hardware they had was extremely impressive in it's own right and whatever Y-wings were left were probably in such disrepair it wouldn't be worth it at any scale the resistance or any half decent militia would need to work at and whatever had replaced the Y-wing on the galactic stage if any were probably prohibitively expensive or the Republic was not allowing them to the resistance. So, for some of their war machines to be garbage is acceptable but was still the dumbest bombing run ever conceived, with the dumbest ship, for the worst use. If anything I would of used bombers like that on a target that had minimal air/space defense and I'm just trying to get that last bunker to go away or surrender. Hell, I'm sure they were slower than Flying Fortresses. Anyway sorry for the rant on a year old vid.

[@JosiahMaloney]

I know you from youth group and came across your channel while scrolling through yt shorts

[@Jedwerd]

i remember you. hey Josiah

[@lunarmodule6419]

Let's not forget that in the original trilogy, TIEs didn't have hyperdrive. Thx

[@JoaoPedro-ol7sl]

The OT lore wise doesn't evolve from the prequels with hyperspace rings bc tie fighters can't jump through hyperspace, it's more of a mattar of cost, design and size of the ship

[@MadLFC]

Under George Lucas' supervision the prequel and original trilogy technology had a progressive logic to it while the sequels (like TLJ silly bombers and Starkiller Base) had absolutely NO logic to them.

[@AhsokaFanboy1138]

The only things that I could recognize as improvements were the capabilities of Starkiller Base and then the Star Destroyers with Death Star cannons.

[@mrmacross]

Sorry, disagree about the world-building in the Prequel trilogy. Lucas did a good job in many aspects, but he himself decided to rehash characters from the OT into the PT. Seriously, why did R2-D2 have to be Padme's astromech? Why was Anakin Skywalker the creator of C3-PO? Why was Chewbacca one of the Wookiees to help Yoda escape? There's that famous Lucas quote about "poetry" and "rhyming," but for a lot of us older viewers, that was just lazily taking characters from the OT "present" and putting them into the past for who knows what's sake. If Disney had done it, we would all be arguing (correctly) that they were just using recognizable characters for nostalgia-baiting and robbing us of real world-building. A lot of writers are bad at writing prequels. They insist upon clumsily inserting legacy characters into the past because they are too hesitant to create new characters from scratch. EDIT: Also, I forgot to mention making Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine was also a missed opportunity for world-building. The novelizations of the OT made it that Owen Lars and Obi-Wan were the ones who were related, not Owen and Anakin, so if Lucas went with that precedent (I understand he didn't have to) then he could've made Anakin from any planet in the galaxy. Instead, Lucas went with the "safe" route of bringing audiences back to a planet they've already been to twice. But Lucas picked rhyming over world-building so father and son were from the same planet.

[@jaketerpening3284]

I don't think the Tie Fighters had a built in hyperdrive. They note that they are short ranged fighters and couldn't be far out on their own. We usually see them deploying from a star destroyer or death star.

[@NE-BO]

TLDR should of just made movies out of what was already cannon instead of creating bland world building from the ground up

[@noobmaster69426]

The prequels actually work and the sequels don’t. Here’s how: - despite some clunky dialogue, the memes are pretty funny, and the sequel memes are kinda boring in comparison - the prequels have amazing world building while sequels just do nothing but recycling content from the glory days - better characters because sequel characters have such bad writing and are painfully bland and uninteresting like Rey is all of a sudden shown as a stock character. Even Jar Jar is better than her (I don’t hate him, just I prefer Darth jar jar; the dude is overhated and he is the key to all this) - sequels just invent new plot holes while prequels are more consistent - lightsabers in prequels are perfect while sequels turned them into glow sticks. Sorry Kathleen, but you don’t even know how lightsabers work. - Clone wars is also another reason why the prequels work pretty well, as they expanded on some of the stuff

[@srisriani5757]

2:42 I noticed something

[@maamold]

"Bombing Technology" Like bombs dropping when theirs no gravity.

[@RancorSnp]

I always thought that people hate on the pre-quels too much. May have a lot to do with the fact I was a kid and the things that were "bad" didn't affect me nearly as much as the things that were good. And the things that were good sparked the imagination and filled the world full of possibilities. Like for all of the hate the prequels get - can you imagine the Starwars universe without the planets introduced in these movies? I absolutely loved all of the cool stuff. Shame that Starwars is a dead franchise now, it had so much more cool things it could have done

[@Stopalkec]

Kylo ren lightsaber isn't difrent its the same one from rebels but in red!

[@Jedwerd]

yeah but we saw that for like 3 seconds

[@alexbibby9641]

The bombers from the last jedi are basically star wars b-17G bombers from WW2 with the bomb bay and turrets to match. Odd little detail (I’m kinda a big enthusiast on this kinda shit) but on the data card for that thing on the lego box disney star wars is so uninspired at this point that they even basically used the real names of the b-17 guns as the guns the bomber has. Don’t get me wrong i love all the ww2 inspired stuff from all the previous star wars media but at this point they went so far as to not even think of a new idea or new names they just looked at some old ww2 stuff settled on a ‘that’ll do’ mentality. It just shows a blatant lack of effort or passion for the franchise seeing it as a new Marvel MCU to milk for profit

[@zachary4670]

To be fair, I think naming the guns after the plane that inspired it is a cool touch. It’s also very much not unprecedented in the SW universe. You’re a history buff, clearly, so you are probably aware of all the other history-inspired names in the franchise. “Stormtrooper” is one English translation of the name for Hitler’s SS, the “Confederacy” of Independent Systems seems pretty obviously taken from the Confederate States of America, and (I find this one fascinating) the name “Separatist” was given to supporters of the colonial rebels during the Revolutionary War.

[@alexbibby9641]

@@zachary4670 You know what, i believe you have humbled me somewhat on this specific matter today. I realised just now I wrote my comment at least a year ago, and I was still a little immature then. Plus I had some other things going on that was making me a bit of a stressy jerk. I may have my criticisms of how Disney has handled the new trilogy but in the shows they really have shown me they can make some very high quality stuff, and for that I am at peace with the matter. In any case I shall leave you with an interesting point myself. The death star run from a new hope was inspired by the dambuster’s raid, both the movie and the real event. The targeting computer was taken from scenes in the movie where they used a wooden tool to judge the perfect distance to drop the bomb between the two guard towers either side of the river, as it would skip correctly on the water to blow the damn and in no other way could this have been done

[@Sarah_H]

I remember people shitting all over Kylo Ren's lightsaber as being stupid when, like...y'all, the only thing that can stop a lightsaber IS ANOTHER LIGHTSABER. Why HAVEN'T we gotten a saber design before now that included a mini-saber crossguard?

[@Jedwerd]

i know what you mean. Logic dictates that at any point, you could just lock sabers and then slide your blade down and cut off the other guy's hands

[@Deconstruction_Administrator]

With the guard having independent emitters, it offers zero protection against a blade-slide during a saber-lock, unless it's made from lightsaber resistant materials, like Beskar or the like.

[@minicle426]

I've seen better designed versions of the crossguard myself. Kylo's just felt like a half-heated attempt to one-up the Duelsaber.

[@whynot7507]

@@Jedwerd actually im pretty sure its a thing that when lightsabers touch there sorta pulled together so you cant slide them.

[@Deconstruction_Administrator]

@@whynot7507 the magnetic fields that hold the plasma in place draws together making them slightly harder to pull apart. There's nothing stopping a blade-slide.

[@5672step]

It would have been really cool to see technology actually go backwards after the empire collapsed without a functional galactic economy. A lot like Russia today 30 years after the Soviet Union fell apart.

[@springheeljak145]

I actually don't mind that technology got a little worse after the empire fell. The empire was this massive militaristic regime that poured tons of research into R&D and dedicated its bureaucracy to technical prowess. It makes sense that when it falls apart, some things would be lost and the replacements would be shoddy since they probably lost some of their best scientists and engineers in the chaos.

[@sunso1991]

the sand tread speeder should be like a local junker vehicle

[@VERTEX7101]

Seriously in the last Jedi Poe is able to take down all of the dreadnoughts guns flawlessly and still makes yo mama jokes I didn’t like it and it ruined the show for me

[@sebces2576]

Show?

[@Drakon500]

The bombers could have been cool if designed differently. Like turn the “bombing” part into its rear end and have it use the bombs as an improvised scattershot minefield to Block pursuers

[@eugenehavens]

You get it, kid. (Don’t get cocky.)