What the Springboks and All Blacks can learn from the Six Nations | Aotearoa Rugby Pod

The lads react to Ireland's Six Nations win this week and analyse key performances with an eye on the next slate of international matchups. Super Rugby Pacific threw some more interesting results our way over the weekend and similarly, Aupiki provided some stellar play.
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[@romanutd]

Just to point out, as an Irish fan of many years I know no Irish fan that is saying Ireland are the best team in the world, this is just being pushed by the media, the Springboks are the best team in the world having just won the Rwc , can't wait for the tour to SA and some great November Internationals.

[@inamortz2372]

Exactly. The world cup was invented so that weaker teams like South Africa can climb up the rankings once every couple of years,

[@Darren_S]

​@@inamortz2372Cope 😂

[@TaydoS]

​​@@inamortz2372 The World Cup was invented while SA was banned from international sport, hence they missed the 87 & 91 World Cups, so clearly it was not invented for SA to win it. Only 4 teams have ever won the RWC and the Springboks have the best WC record of out the 4. Great to see you have the confidence to type out of your rear end, which is where your brain is located 🤡🚮

[@Mo-yd8xc]

@@TaydoS they should invent a trophy for pool play. 😂 Ireland would win that.

[@bobsyourunclefannysyouraun6997]

@@Mo-yd8xcdid u think up all that on your own or did your mammy help you.

[@corcaigh]

The best team in the world. Who cares? We recently saw IRE beat SA, SA beat NZ, NZ beat IRE, FR beat NZ. And I'd add England to the list. There's very little if anything separating the top teams and that's good for rugby.

[@mikefox955]

The difference between the top teams is marginal, however the world cup winner and current top ranked team is the best in the world. The Boks and their fans rightly care about that. As would any team that would win the world cup.

[@jimbo0078]

True .. that small difference is mostly determined by the DNA of winning … which Springboks have

[@jimbo0078]

Ireland are rewriting their DNA in the last ten years … and in time … will Win a WC… then more quickly 2 in a row

[@davidwalker2402]

As an Irishman I still think the ABs are the standard in rugby, they show up for every game . Can’t wait for summer/autumn tests..

[@Darren_S]

​​@@jimbo0078Rewriting their DNA literally by adding Kiwi blood. I bet you said the same before the 2023 RWC. 😂

[@rabbitss11]

Ireland ended up falling over the line as opposed to smashing through it, they looked quite tired but, credit to them, they still managed to win despite not looking their best.

[@kirkclearidge7616]

Ireland is poised to do great things it's what we love about them 😊

[@damien1166]

Excellent review of the 6 Nations

[@citedcanvas85]

The irish visit is becoming a highly anticipated affair. I like the fire Boks will enjoy that. Gna be an epic battle come july. Cant wait

[@vuyongwenya3243]

We all miss the old Super Rugby

[@thubelihlesphelele7901]

People forget that before the 2023 world cup and the Irish and Lions came to South africa and won the test!

[@marnoster]

Great to see the trend continuing of rugby getting more and more competitive across the comps. Eddie is gonna kick himself for giving up. But we’ll see toward the end of the year. I think the kiwi teams have taken a significant hit with all the best AB’s heading elsewhere. Razor’s gonna have to pull off something special to compete at the level their supporters are used to.

[@chinesespeakwelsh]

Ons het geleer dat daar niks is om bang te wees nie.

[@Darren_S]

​@@JohnGKeoghNogsteeds nie bang nie.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@JohnGKeogh How many test series has Ireland won against South Africa? I'm waiting in anticipation for the answer.... 😙

[@brendanpeacock4475]

Does anyone want to count how many of the Springboks are actually based at altitude for their franchise rugby? The altitude factor is almost negligible as an advantage.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

They need an excuse, ANY excuse will do.

[@taintabird23]

I would be more interested in how many of them grew up on the Highveld. They will readapt quickly even if the live at sea level now.

[@thabomazwayi4422]

Ireland have good game plan and accuracy, but winning the World Cup requires more balance 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@Driver2616]

I suppose what the Bokke have learned is that it’s not totally impossible to beat Ireland. Bloody difficult though.

[@Sineadhawk]

Yeah but I think with it being in South Africa they will have the edge/ ireland definitely need some down time but will have more club games and might be running on empty

[@shaneoballs]

@@Sineadhawk fair point but th eclub game in Ireland is managed centrally by the IRFU so players work loads are managed proactively. Allows depth to come through the provinces and to protect the senior players. A big advantage versus French and English clubs

[@Sineadhawk]

@@shaneoballs I suppose there is only 4 clubs in ireland too. They looked a bit tired towards the end of 6N. Let’s see . I wouldn’t he surprised if the boks win but at least Ireland have proven to some degree they can win without home advantage. Like in france and others . I fear with the amount of toxic comments online from both sides will make the games a very hostile place , which is a shame

[@shaneoballs]

​@@Sineadhawk the Boks should win, they are the WC Champions, playing at home, in the middle of their season, anything other than 3 wins would be a failure for them. important to rememeber that its Ireland 4th most popular sport, a country with a pop much smaller than JoBurg, played by only around 150k registered players

[@bobsyourunclefannysyouraun6997]

There’s only two games in the series

[@markrutherford6010]

Seru Uru is very good player.The Reds are looking dangerous. Fraser McReight is best 7 in Australia.Uru and McReight combine well. Les Kiss has done great job with the Reds. Asafo Aumua is playing consistent rugby.His core skills are very good. Halfbacks need to be good decision makers.Especially at test level. We don’t want halfbacks who have white line fever. Cam Riogard and Cortez Ratima are best halfbacks in NZ.

[@somersetfan1]

Not much I reckon, mainly because they all were blooding new players. The hope is for not too many injuries to key players before the summer internationals.

[@7884golfguru]

The Bok will be to physical for Ireland,coming from a 72 year kiwi player back in the day

[@StaalBurgher0]

Not sure the highveld altitude is such a factor anymore. Most of the Boks, or at least half, play in Europe or Japan. The biggest hurdle for the Boks is the first game. Having 10 of the starting 15 Irish playing together all year for Leinster has a massive impact on cohesion. ABs often benefitted from having so many from the Crusaders. Boks are notoriously slow starters in the international season for this very reason. Of course maybe Rassie has a way to mitigate this. 🤷‍♂️

[@Sineadhawk]

Yeah but I think that will be Irelands issue , they need some down time and won’t get much . So prob a bit of burn out.. and it’s the altitude that will affect the irish lads

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@Sineadhawk This "altitude excuse" is just that.... excuses. 🙄

[@nickrad6966]

Also explains why Ireland were so good out of the blocks in the 6N and it took France and England a few games to come good

[@Sineadhawk]

@@Alias-gy3tz what? Am I’m not sure if you have ever been in altitude let alone tried to play sport/ even saffas are saying this

[@Alias-gy3tz]

@@Sineadhawk I lived there. Stop talking out of your back side.

[@laurencepiper]

Definitely an 8 - 0 split, but all backs

[@jameswyatt4443]

It think the Springboks are doing just fine, thanks.

[@aitchr8770]

first minute comment " what's going on there?" NZ is getting called out in the professional era is what's happening

[@user-eq9jv5uf7d]

Cope.

[@ciaranoconnor4027]

The Scots were very clever in holding up the ball carrier and reducing quick ball from the base of the breakdown. They also double-teamed most tackles in the process. It meant the Scots had to tackle about three times more than Ireland. It stopped Ireland's quick ball and blunted their attack but it also meant the outcome was basically inevitable. Ireland left a load of tries on the pitch. Different day Ireland pull away and put on more points. Fair play to the Scots slowing us down but Ireland led from minute 12...

[@Karma-qt4ji]

The one thing the Scots did very well was to make sure Kinghorn was covering van der Merwe. DvdM can run with the ball in hand but is actually quite easy to negate if you can cut down his space because he won't pass the ball, however his defence is dismal for someone playing top tier international rugby.

[@kirkclearidge7616]

Springboks are at their Prime they are ready for any challenge now the All Blacks bit of advice breathe , focus and don't let the pressure get the best of you keep your head high maintain that level of discipline and you'll be fine 😊

[@user-bo8gh9ey6n]

Personally I would prefer to see some of the younger players get a chance, even if means a worse result. South Africa and New Zealand take the long view and so they should. We would do well to copy that.

[@chrisdutoit8843]

The new laws regarding scrums is to negate Boks scrummage when the NH teams arrive for the Boks games. The WR need to make sure that Boks is not having the best at scrum time

[@Mo-yd8xc]

They can learn that there's nothing to fear from the north.

[@AK-wc9rl]

As an AB fan I think France look scary when they hit form. Luckily they are inconsistent but there were moments in their game against England where they looked really imposing. Their pack is gigantic.

[@DrissZyani-bu5mo]

The both were in finale . They need not learn on the 6 nations !😂😂😂

[@Rob-wu5nc]

Only a All Black and a couple of aussies know about test match mental + physical pressure ..the biggest matches of the year..Loftus and Kings Park

[@epsilonbeta4877]

I hope All Blacks don't put 96 on us again in november. That alone would be a good start.

[@tarreckbyrne492]

Puzzlers

[@ciaranoconnor4027]

Will SA go back to type and just kick the dung out of a team they are nervous of? If you can recall Lions tours down there and how brutal they have been. I expect similar. If Ireland can cope with the SA scrum this will be a very tight series which either team could win...

[@Karma-qt4ji]

If you remember the Lions tour, you'll remember that the Springboks had not played a game of rugby in almost two years before the warm up match against Georgia, and then were heavily hampered by Covid during their training. It's hard to judge what they are now going to be like based on that one time way back when.

[@acegreen9462]

Are the Aus teams lifting their game to the level of the NZ teams, or have the NZ teams dropped to Aus level? Using the crusaders as a ref point.

[@kirkclearidge7616]

Some of the experienced players are playing at Japanese league one 😊

[@kylekalakoda1304]

Nothing… They’ve been the 2 best sides the last 2/3 decades 😂

[@paulnash5500]

Isn't test rugby much more interesting now, that there are more than two teams winning games all the time. I think so. Going to a test match and knowing you will win is boring. There's no excitement. Ireland to win two tests in SA.. 😊

[@daithipol]

It's not about the best team in the world... at the top, it is about the best team on the day. We did it V SA and france but not against NZ and ENG...

[@francoisbotha4162]

why is everyone thinking Ireland is the best team in the world...Did the Springboks not have gold and the AB's not have silver in the last world cup. Where were Ireland when it mattered? I love Irish rugby but dont ever...ever write of the mighty AB's and the Boks! Bring it on Ireland!!!

[@davidwalker2402]

No one in Ireland believes that, lets see how the summer/autumn tests go…

[@Sineadhawk]

It is very much other countries that are saying ireland being the best not Irish fans or coaches. And mainly because it was said ahead or after a game in the event that they lost or won. Andy Farrell himself has said it South Africa. I can assure you irish fans are not thinking the tour will be easy

[@davidwalker2402]

@@JohnGKeogh 🤣🤣

[@artetaDagoat]

​@@JohnGKeoghlast goal wins

[@ElijahMan2633]

You’re speaking about the Boks, not Italy. The Boks will have to much for Ireland…

[@NoName-hg6cc]

Like at the World Cup? 😂

[@thehalf8]

Didn't listen to the whole thing but leave the Springboks out of this. We can learn on our own without NZ. Don't bring us into your shit competition.

[@padraiglocke8844]

Every one is forgetting No Ringrose , No Mack Hansen and our most important player Hugo Keenan , and remember Hugo is the best in the world at his position, we had to put scrub half’s Full backs or Wingers that are not able to play well at this level , that why we struggled, we have problems but Injuries are the main problem in our back line, We need to develop more Under 20s from last World Cup like France are doing this year , there building for the next World Cup, let’s sacrifice wins for development young talent!! Us Irish want World Cups not 6 nations Grand Slams, we need to not concentrate on world rankings it’s pointless, let’s develop world class players like Hugo and porter from 2016 Under 20 World Cup Squad.

[@huamiify]

Bit harsh on Frawley & Nash, calling them "scrubs", but I agree they are a step down from Keenan and Hansen, who are two of the worlds best in their respective positions.

[@geoffhogan4831]

What a sensless comment. Again calling players best in the world. You only got to the quarter finals with the best players in the world?

[@taintabird23]

@@geoffhogan4831 Oh please, Ireland have never won a world cup and have had three of their players voted player of the year. That's the same as SA, and they have four world cups. Winning the world cup should not be conflated with being the best in the world - ask a Kiwi.

[@MrRugbylane]

Call me 'Old School' but the only game that matters to me is the next Test Match. I dont care much for titles and championships.

[@lukejohnson3361]

The world is that simple guys. Ireland finished 8th again, they are a consistent 8th.

[@gavindoyle692]

What are you talking about? They just proved again that they’re the best team in Europe.

[@lukejohnson3361]

Only 1 European team has ever won the world cup. Ireland finishes a consistent 8th, how can that be in a conversation for best team in the world?

[@jameswyatt4443]

What the All Blacks need to learn, and especially the pundits, is that their own arrogance is their downfall. You aren’t the gatekeepers of rugby. Apparently you’ll say anything to take credit away from the Springboks, but deep down you all know, the Springboks are the best in the world, and maybe you should try learn from them.

[@MrWilt100]

The All Blacks gonna make you eat your words for calling them arrogant you got to admit it the rest of the world keep calling us arrogant because they over the years got shit on by the All Blacks well you've had a few years now to finally get your acts together and now we gonna see how good you all really are, so bring it on. Remember George Greagan saying to the All Blacks 4 more years and from then on to this day everything just went down hill for Australia so be very careful on what you spinning.

[@AK-wc9rl]

The insecure saffa comes along, just like clockwork. What's wrong with you people? Haven't met a more needy and insecure bunch in my life. Yeah the Boks are so great that they only managed to beat a 14 man AB team by 1 point. The ABs should be shaking in their boots.

[@jameswyatt4443]

@@MrWilt100 How dumb are you? Firstly, I said ‘especially the pundits’, and they are arrogant. They keep spouting this false narrative about styles of play in rugby, this idea that the Springboks play boring rugby, and the All Blacks play entertaining rugby, you don’t decide what’s entertaining. And the proof is in the fact that rugby is thriving everywhere in the world, except Australia and New Zealand. You kicked the SA teams out of Super Rugby, and now you guys are struggling, not SA. Show some damn respect.

[@kirkclearidge7616]

​@@MrWilt100Keep the discipline in the mind and soul the All Blacks are known for making errors and mistakes they didn't do so well under pressure in the final The Springboks are well in control of that game Mental Health and the pressure they go through is something that needs to be looked at in the All Blacks Camp if your not okay in the mind then your not physically okay on that field ❤

[@MrWilt100]

@@kirkclearidge7616They become a lot like you and your thinking I thought arrogance was not becoming of you rethink your thinking before you spout off about our arrogance. Clear your head and you may have something that's worth talking about.

[@calitza]

Comments full of Irish fans preparing themselves for a soft landing In your heaaaad Rassie Rassie rasssieeeeieieie

[@krnc17]

And we beat Rassie. 😂 Also, it’s the media building the Irish team up, not the fans. We all know who’s the best. And it ain’t us.

[@tiaanbezuidenhout8131]

Springboks have to learn...absolutelyfuckingnothing. 4 time world champs, three-peat loading.

[@patrickchilds2987]

And yet the Boks haven’t beaten Ireland since 2016 , that’s 8 years . I don’t see how many times South Africa winning the RWC has any relevance against Ireland. After all they beat the Boks in Paris in the last RWC.

[@trophyhunternightwish82]

Ireland never made it out of the quarter finals ever. Way too arogant, after their 1st game they thought they already won the world cup. If they stay more humble they could probably reach a semi one day

[@gavindoyle692]

Not surprised you hide behind an anonymous account after that ridiculous comment. You seem to conflate the Irish media with Andy Farrell’s squad.

[@patrickchilds2987]

@@gavindoyle692 It’s hard to understand how a commentator’s opinion on a rugby pod can be interpreted as the view from the Irish team. We saw the same with England at the RWC, so despite the players being on a media ban some fans interpreted somehow the views of some ex players as the view from the English team. It’s baffling that some fans still don’t understand this or more likely they don’t care

[@Sineadhawk]

What are you talking about? They never said that 😅😅 stop being dramatic