What the Twitch Leak says about me...

[@jasonz8635]

LTT made $29,911.52 and is ranked 7870 on twitch. It's not a bad amount for a news stream.

[@thepenguin9]

That's more than I earn a year at my current salary. It's pretty decent

[@dbnathan5]

That's without donations and sponsorships so they made a lot more than that.

[@KiinaSu]

@@thepenguin9 Well it's over 2 years. But years ago they leaked the price for a sponsor on stream and I can assure you even if they haven't raised the prices the twitch earnings are a drop in the bucket compared to the direct sponsors.

[@thepenguin9]

@@KiinaSu oh Im very much aware. This money is essentially petty cash

[@typeer]

There's always more he could do, but if every 1%er did as much as he does, world would be better place

[@vfx_dancer]

the leak reveal that linus' stream setup is officially more expensive that his twitch earning

[@Alucard-gt1zf]

Not really, just a single sponsorship slot costs way more than his entire twitch earnings

[@kianhaynes23]

@Fun With Minerals yeah just no

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

@Fun With Minerals you believin them get rich ads bruh. this crap is a side gig. anyone telling you otherwise, is trying to make themselves seem more important.

[@starr0401]

Linus is OUR one percent. He's precious cargo.

[@keyurkelkar4798]

*Soviet anthem intensifies

[@starr0401]

@@keyurkelkar4798 (Red Alert 3 version)

[@ZeFoxii]

Aww I’m sure Linus likes that

[@FeedMeSalt]

Zero problems with him being wealthy. He actually pays his workers and taxes. Unlike the effective 2% the trillionairs in the US have been paying for years. News flash, the rich already hide money. Forcing them too pay their share won't make then hide. They already are.

[@Simiocrates]

@@FeedMeSalt you must be fun at parties

[@user-sw1wq8lh2w]

The fact amazon is so big leaking the entire source code of twitch has a limited threat to them is really dystopian for a free society. Imagine if AWS source leaked, then there is maybe a hope.

[@korumann]

AWS leak would probably have a similar impact as Twitch leak for similar reasons, it's not that "Amazon is so big this won't hurt them" it's that this is a business model that is only feasible for a massive company such as Amazon

[@erichall090909]

What I learned from the leak: Critical Role is doing even better than I thought. And that’s awesome

[@harrack]

@@Murderbits why so?

[@BB-848-VAC]

@@Murderbits I thought I was the only one who thinks they suck haha

[@timnone2924]

@@Murderbits such as?

[@aravindpallippara1577]

@@timnone2924 ah the old Marisha don't know went to let others talk problem maybe? Well that's primarily why I stopped watching the show anyway - it's a good show and Mercer knows what he is doing, along with Travis and Sam being my favourite folks around

[@SoulfullyUnaware]

I’m sooo happy for them! They deserve all the success they are getting! Almost done with c2

[@TJWhiteStar]

I'm sure some Google/KZbin engineers have had a good look at that code even if it's just to see what Twitch are doing. They'll never admit it but knowing your competition is the essence of business.

[@DragoonWarrior790]

It would be nice if YT would look at the Twitch player and take some notes. They did add the ability to clip videos, but I still can't can't watch long YT videos without having my memory overloaded. I can watch a 6 hour stream on Twitch with zero problems.

[@aravindpallippara1577]

Essentially they will be all over it - it's like learning new recipes for a cook, source code is practically the work developers do, so twitch just contributed massively to open source - involuntarily

[@dstinnettmusic]

It would be a poison pill if they did look. They would expose themselves to SO much legal liability over even just the accusation of stealing code.

[@christophfischer2773]

I am so happy that Linus knows about the father of all Battle Royale games: Minecraft

[@plyr2]

DayZ: Mod would like a word...

[@bokajllensch661]

@@plyr2 Hungergames etc. in Minecraft existed before the release of DayZ tho.

[@seniorbuttocksbiggusdickus7147]

@@plyr2 wasn’t it Arma 3 Player Unknowns battle royal like the OG …….

[@nobodynoone2500]

Lmao, BR games are older than you are buddy.

[@gerhardsmith7892]

I'm guessing most of you guys are joking, but just in case somebody else doesn't know, BR as a concept, and BR games are waaaaaay older than Minecraft

[@tomatdoras]

If people joined as spectators, that'd take stream sniping to a whole new level

[@Tn5421Me]

My twitch flow is like: Go to home page, log in, get sent back to home page, finally go to the page I want to go to.

[@AniClips699]

"but not like the minecraft hunger games" uhh linus a good hunger games server will have spectator mode which is exactly what you talkin about xD

[@huantian]

Linus is obviously not a mc player

[@alistairblaire6001]

The "vapor" stuff sounds like it was named by developers before going through the marketing team lol

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

uh... duh? lol. this wasn't a release. it was a leak. oh wait, they mean the same thing these days... my bad carry on.

[@colonelangus7535]

I think someone on the vapor dev team leaked all this. Their project was tabled, and they wanted to create buzz.

[@CapnSlipp]

Vapor is almost certainly a codename. Many products, separate from the marketing name decided upon just before release, have a distinct internal codename (both a codename in the traditional sense, as well as a name used in the programming code for naming classes and stuff pre- & post-launch, because it’s often not worth the effort to go back and rename everything in the codebase).

[@ZiggyTheHamster]

Yeah, it's definitely a codename. Almost everything at Amazon has a codename, and there's almost always duplicate codenames (which is the case with this one as well). Most teams choose thematically similar names for the services they own (Star Trek, DC Comics, common electronics components).

[@esk1mo]

I think Linus is forgetting about HLTV by valve from the counter strike 1.6 days. Connecting spectators that can view the game live from anywhere or any one players view.

[@Dtr146]

Hey they back in the same room let's go.

[@immortallix]

Only took months after they all got the vacc

[@martin1649]

I forgot wan used to be a single room talk

[@bradhaines3142]

'2 weeks to slow the spread' 2nd year, starting to wind down. should've happened sooner

[@sweetgherkinz]

first time seeing Linus & Luke next to each other lol

[@tarreislam]

it was how it all started, #couchgang

[@austinharrell9736]

@@tarreislam #slickgang

[@Simiocrates]

@@austinharrell9736 fancy white shoes gang

[@BleezyMonkey]

this leak actually was a really good stuff. turns out there are some super small channels making shit ton of money from bits that even top streamers cant even get close. Thing is they earn thoose bits from stolen credit cards since there is apparently no security while buying bits (like sending confirmation mail to your phone or something), and then thoose streamers giving a part of that bits money back to criminals so they laundering money that way. Lots of streamers called out to police stations to give their statements over here ins Turkey.

[@Hobbitstomper]

Hacker: We hacked Twitch! Public: What part of Twitch? Hacker: Yes

[@kamally]

The twitch leak is not top 1%, someone that I know streams with an average of 30 viewers and he was in there as well. (including accurate donation numbers)

[@ianswitzer3395]

Or so he says

[@kamally]

@@ianswitzer3395 You can just download the leak yourself and verify it if you really wanted. I know because I did download it and checked it myself.

[@ianswitzer3395]

@@kamally what's his tag.. I'll double verify.

[@kamally]

@@ianswitzer3395 I'm not gonna send my friends twitch ID but you can just grab one from a random small streamer and verify that it has the data

[@ianswitzer3395]

@@kamally you're not going to send your friends public gamer tag which he streams publicly with?

[@atafakheri8659]

I think the twitch cyber security devs were in vape world

[@VisualBasic6]

This whole 3d spectating thing withndrops sounds like erm... HLTV and csgo tournaments

[@drudigger]

it has data for over 5 million twitch partners, io stopped at 3 files but there were about 40 in the list and the first 2 had 800k entries graphed in each.

[@bencarley6896]

amazon creating the hunger games.... Yeah, could see them pitting childeren to fight to the death if the price was right...

[@johna.5293]

Remember everyone. The leak includes just subscriptions. With contracts, donations, brand deals, ADs, channels like xQc and CriticalRole could possibly be making twice to three times as much as the leak says

[@maximj9782]

Chinese twitch clones are incoming

[@immortallix]

Watch the rules be less bs somehow

[@sadmanh0]

tencent watches this video and does all the ideas Linus talks about and applies it to pubg

[@e-cap1239]

@@sadmanh0 not like it already exists in some games such as CSGO and, ironically, the game he mentioned, Minecraft.

[@robeagleR]

To my knowledge Linus's 29k from Twitch goes to ALL of LTT, Merchandising,Advertising,Pay, not just Linus. Thats the difference between the 1% and the "1%" of Twitch.

[@Simiocrates]

What's this supposed to men

[@PsicosisYT]

He's implying other streamers do not pour their revenue back into the business, instead taking profits, and using this implication to say that some popular streamers he doesn't like don't do the same and we should shame them for that.

[@e-cap1239]

How dare they try to live of off twitch! Do those plebs not own multimillion dollar businesses to invest into?

[@ericvauwee4923]

@@e-cap1239 there is a difference between buying a lamborghini and investing the same amount of money in your business

[@glennboggsjr5369]

Linus: "People are going to be playing games like this" Wiggles arms in the air to make fun of the Xbox Kinect. Also Linus: "I love Beat Saber!"

[@the_undead]

Beat sabre doesn't exist in its current form without VR. Also I actually don't believe the Kinect was accurate enough for games like beat saber

[@sobertillnoon]

Vapor is just a concept used for internal leak detection

[@drackion1103]

I remember hearing the leak also contained some leftover source code from curseforge when twitch use to own them before Overwolf brought Curseforge from twitch

[@corzahazard444]

Nopixel is a role play server, but even Koil, who runs/owns it, has said it's still basically a mmorpg. I predominantly follow nopixel streamers on twitch.

[@jaymo1011]

nopixel is the worst thing to happen to fivem since take two

[@corzahazard444]

@@jaymo1011 in what way? it's the best role play server for it, I've played on it, beats the shit out of SVRP by a mile, and most of the rp servers are wannabe copies of NP

[@corzahazard444]

I know it kind of went down hill after a ton of XQC's fan babies tried to play on it and got called out for it, he's gotten better but still pretty toxic for the server

[@CBXweb]

Funny thing is I already forgot about this. In the grand scheme of things, who cares? My boss is absolutely terrible at his job yet he got a $4K raise, on top of a $180K salary. Nothing is fair! lol

[@the_undead]

This information means jack shit without stating what company you work at

[@bk_deltor9155]

make sure you have two factor so even if your password is compromised they need your phone in hand or access to your email account to actually log in.

[@Depl0rable10]

Just wanted to say this finally convinced me to change to different passwords for everything! I'm 19 and 50/75 passwords done up to this point, many more to come

[@Filnor_pb]

Different passwords is good, even better would be a password manager.

[@irwanclark]

@@Filnor_pb I think the only way to have 50+ passwords is with a password manager. The only reason most people don’t have different passwords for each service is because there isn’t a good Multiplatform password manager.

[@ferocious5975]

its actually much better to have one, un guessable password for separate things rather than 50 different ones, unless using a Password Manager

[@irwanclark]

@@ferocious5975 yeah but the problem with that, is if one site/service, e.g twitter got hacked and your login details were stolen, they could easily have the password to other accounts no matter how un guessable it is

[@ryanwakebradtelle8682]

With bits you pay Amazon up front, like $6.50 for 500 bits, a lower percentage the more you spend but each bit corresponds to one penny.

[@nilmuriasfalgas3602]

Why does linus have an lg gram?

[@greybeard4034]

Luke akwardley grinning: I'm not gonna tell what we are going to steal from the code. Shut up Linus

[@SirVer51]

You're probably joking, but there's no way they risk taking anything from the Twitch code-that's just asking for the Amazon legal army to come after them if they slip up even a little

[@collincreeden2862]

@@SirVer51 not taking exact code, but definitely getting ideas from the source code is a thing.

[@SirVer51]

@@collincreeden2862 Even that can be dangerous, depending on what it is. If there's some novel technique or method for load balancing or something, and Twitch can prove that they're using it, that in conjunction with this clip where they imply that they've downloaded the code would be enough for them to file a case against them. It's why emulator devs and modders often don't look at console firmware or game code leaks-it opens up the project to legal trouble.

[@greybeard4034]

@@SirVer51 Actually i wasn't joking, you saw the sparkle in his eyes having acces to this knowledge and also trying to keep his mouth shut. There is much to learn, not only software / code wise but also process wise. Don't forget he is running floatplane and there is much to learn. If you don't copy paste the exact code/ algorithm you'll be surely safe..

[@Drewitall54]

@@SirVer51 legally you can take things from it as long as the person who writes the code on your project isn't the same person who personally read the source code for twitch, you can use a two man team and have one programmer read the source code and explain to another how it works, and then the other writes the source code for your project

[@entropitation6907]

where the heck is linus's framework laptop

[@MrVladoCC]

Come on, it's obvious to anyone who worked for big tech company that Vapour and all of the other meme names around it are just code names, which devs decided to use mostly because it's funny and because you don't want to leak any info (yes, even just name) about a prodcut that isn't presented yet. So, of course it was called Vapour because of Steam and you won't ever know abouth this name if not for this leak

[@m4rt_]

Part 2 could be tax stuff and passwords

[@kenerdbotta9739]

That was quick wit the uploads

[@thepenguin9]

Likely linus doesn't need to upload it to the LMG network from home anymore, and is instead transferred using the office network

[@SighDontWantAHandle]

I love how Linus insisted Luke admit to committing a crime. hahahha

[@cedmo8]

Sounds like Unreal Tournament spectator mode.

[@TJWhiteStar]

Wouldn't the full source code for the site include any encryption method information? Just curious as if it did wouldn't any encrypted password data then be vulnerable? I've not dealt with websites since the early raw html in a notepad days so not sure. Just curious what someone with more knowledge thinks.

[@tekcirk]

The good encryption methods are all standards i.e. we all know how it works. This is what AES is. How the encryption works isn't secret, the key is. The passwords aren't actually encrypted. They would be stored hashed, likely with SHA-256 and also with a random salt. Hashes are sometimes called "one-way encryption". It's easy to get the hash of a password, but incredibly difficult to get the password out of a hash. Getting the password out of a hash is "password cracking," if you want to look into that. If the TLS (often incorrectly called SSL) certificate that encrypts the site traffic (the "s" part of "https") was compromised, they would just revoke the TSL certificate and get a new one. Not a big deal if you know or suspect that it may have happened.

[@TJWhiteStar]

@@tekcirk Thank you. I appreciate your reply.

[@dstinnettmusic]

GTAs genre is “Parody American Life Simulator”

[@anas100x]

Why are their so little comments

[@codycast]

Because not much to say about the video?

[@KizaruB]

New video and they don’t get like a million views instantly

[@typeer]

There********* 😚

[@OfficerRFriendly]

Linus, Mixer failed because of mismanagement. They fundamentally failed to approach promotion correctly by wasting all of their revenue on exclusivity deal for stale talent that didn't bring viewers. Internally, there appears to have been micromanaging and just poorly thought out planning.

[@RedBeardedJoe]

Also Before it was Mixer it was Bean

[@OfficerRFriendly]

@@Murderbits yep, exactly. The money spent on exclusivity deals for big "talent" (lol) such as ninja was a huge mistake. I read that internal studies were leaning towards it being more beneficial to use that money to draw in talent through tournaments. Using that money as a prize pool while offering incentives based on viewer retention would have driven Twitch streamers and amateurs over naturally. Their userbase would explode simply by having qualifier requirements (stream game for X number of hours to access the tournament) with everyone getting small bonuses and prizes along the way. 20M on a single streamer could have been used to fund multiple accessible tournaments/cash cups with smaller rewards (100K, 50k, 25K for 1st , 2nd, 3rd place). 115 smaller tournaments that would draw in people in droves for life changing amounts of money if they win.

[@the_undead]

I still think what Linus said is true. Fundamentally speaking a platform like twitch is not profitable by itself. You need more than just a streaming platform to be profitable and Microsoft really didn't have any value-add. They would have needed some feature that would make the platform more desirable than either twitch or KZbin which realistically speaking what is Microsoft going to do

[@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489]

GTA today is an evolution of arcade rpgs, so... you can evolve the language to make that sound new, but that's what it is regardless. the shooting has been completely separated, and they finished adding the 3rd dimension along the way, but it's basically the same it's always been.

[@HazyJ28]

It was around 4:20 when Linus realized Floatplane was a mistake

[@lsdave]

Jian Yang will make "Second Twitch" in China

[@projectmilzock]

Nice takes, enjoyed it

[@staticcactus6029]

Linus is an example of ruling your wealth instead of letting your wealth rule you.

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

Did he even answer the click bait question posed by the title... Lots of rambling guys come on man...

[@themaconeau]

Hardly, you just need to listen. 1:18

[@KizaruB]

I love WAN Show and Linus’ stuff, but my goodness he is up there with Unbox Therapy and Austin Evans for one of the worst clickbaiting tech channels.

[@Simiocrates]

@@KizaruB welcome to KZbin

[@ors5712]

so how do you say "twitch" in chinese?

[@glxblrt]

抽搐

[@re.liable]

Are the leaked figures accurate? Other streamers are saying it isn't...

[@XenHat]

I like the new setup.

[@nayber2352]

Vapor sounds like what Google stadia was meant to be

[@zeyfuller]

Nah, it sounds like it would’ve been a PC client. Amazon has Luna out right now, which is a direct competitor to Stadia. IMO, the business model is better (sub only, no paying for games) but the performance is so much worse for me that I couldn’t play anything.

[@bluepurplepink]

Nopixel is incredibly successful and people love to be there. Mostly because how well its managed compared to other roleplaying servers.

[@Schmuly]

"Vape world" seriously how does this happen in today's world how can you be so out of touch it's impressive

[@ibm5155]

part 2 could have billing address from all twitch streamers

[@DeKempster]

Twitch's 2FA setting is so shit. Why do you need my phone number. The most unsecure 2FA there is. Come on its 2021, Yubikey's exist.

[@RealGengarTV]

RIP. Mixer 😭

[@djhart25]

Seeing Critical Role at the very top made me pretty happy. The nerdiest show of all time lol, they deserve every penny

[@djhart25]

@@Murderbits lmao.. assuming this basically means: "someone I disagree with politically was on once, therefore I can't watch any of their shows" grow tf up and learn to live with people you disagree with

[@tomatdoras]

FiveM isn't really GTA either, mods and frameworks create it into an RPG style, though I doubt Linus & Co would know much about FiveM RP, so i'll give them the pass

[@fatguy9]

I wanna know how much linus makes

[@Simiocrates]

No clue but he 100% is a multimillionaire by now

[@marksemple297]

ah Linus made the vaporware remark so i don't have to. :P

[@sud0gh0st]

Had it Archived within a few hours of it dropping lol, And from what i understood the passwords were not encrypted they were just MD5 hashed so 100% change password info. Twich never stored any CC info's so you should be safe there.

[@koenvisser8527]

Hashed is much better than encrypted. Encryption is reversible, hashing is not.

[@sud0gh0st]

@@koenvisser8527 An MD5 hash can be reversed in seconds lol Also i wasn't saying what is better was i i simply said they was not encrypted and wash hashed. And yes hashing may be faster for your backend resources but its not more secure maybe you should learn the difference. And yes md5 is reversible and it has been found to suffer from extensive vulnerabilities.

[@tekcirk]

​@@sud0gh0st MD5 cannot be "reversed". It can be cracked. Maybe you should learn the difference. Hashed (and salted) passwords are better than encrypted passwords. Hashed (and salted) passwords can only be cracked one at a time. The only way to mirror that to encrypted passwords is to have a different encryption password for each of your stored passwords... and then you'll need a secure way to store those passwords... and so on. Are they using MD5 for hashing? Are they salted? Since you have it archived you should be able to very easily tell if it's salted and what hashing algorithm was used. MD5 and the different SHA hashes are very easy to tell apart.

[@azrael4885]

maybe this will help trumps new twitch , Truth lmao i cant even type that without laughing , the timing is kinda suspicious.

[@huantian]

We get to see their minecraft launcher!

[@GameCyborgCh]

"GTA is it's own genre" so it's MMOGTA then

[@orlovskyconsulting]

2fa activated and new password , but still i wasn so active in twich

[@pikkyuukyuun4741]

amazon cant even get a good game launch

[@digiryde]

What is Mixer? lol

[@darthcookiejar]

We need an Only Fans leak.

[@Sporkyyyyyy]

I'll leak onlyfans in a week

[@evanlangnes2700]

@@Sporkyyyyyy bet

[@Simiocrates]

It's called reddit

[@Unnamed542]

"Microsoft developed directx" yh its the reason games dont support linux aside from the anticheat software not supporting it

[@whoawhoawhatsthis]

what's the deal with male vs female nipples anyway? I've asked myself this for the longest, but never actually dived into it.

[@linuxdragon57]

The source code might benefit open source projects such as LBRY...

[@Pocket_Rat]

Microsoft isn't stupid, they just act stupid on occasion. *cough* games for windows live *cough*

[@SagesRS]

The birthplace of Kick.

[@WildElroy13]

Having the ability to have spectators in any game is absurd. Especially real time and have free cam views. All they would do is get on discord and tell those they are watching, where enemies are. How did you not think of this??

[@Wolfkin1983]

What your describing already happens. It's called stream sniping and happens way more often than people think. Just follow any PvPer who plays MMOs, like Elder Scrolls Online.

[@Mochoso_]

nice setup

[@cpljimmyneutron]

GTA is an Open-World / Role-Playing Game

[@paulelderson934]

I don't get why Linus doesn't think it is. You're literally in the role of your playable characters. Then you go through a storyline as those characters and meanwhile you get to roleplay doing whatever you want as them. It's almost a textbook definition of an RPG.

[@Simiocrates]

@@paulelderson934 I would say that regular gta is too linear to be a pure rpg.

[@arche3527]

keep in mind their not donations their tips so watchers cant refund

[@leonkernan]

Vapor is just hot air

[@z50king29]

Can we look up how much Doctor Disrespect made last year on Twitch? RAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLL

[@ferocious5975]

he was close if not in the top ten made more in the 6 months they were not banned than alot of the streamers did over the years it shown

[@randizzle7659]

Linus deserves EVERYTHING he has built and worked for! Very proud of what they do and bring to my life.

[@sponge1995]

Is it just me or dose linus look extra stoned today 🤔

[@korumann]

technically gtao is an mmorpg

[@HavokR505]

breaking news. celebrities make money.

[@nahimgudfam]

Russians could clone twitch with the source code

[@arekwork]

Valve Dota already have this this isn't that innovative watching ingame tournament.

[@Smookie001]

I really couldnt care less about how much money anyone earns. not my bussines or even smth to envy. Unless... they claim they are poor, communist/socialist/insertliberalideologyyoucanimagine or they pretend smth else and so on.... then i dont care either but its hypocrisy

[@GhostSniper-oc5zr]

Hey

[@Leroys_Stuff]

About time together no masks

[@leesweeney8879]

Normies?

[@Kevan_VG]

Lukepog

[@John.S92]

Imagine if you would, (Imagine), the song "Imagine", but a royalty free version of "Imagine", being playable of an Imagined version, ah crap, LTT Linus saying "imagine" in the video had me remember the end of a 'Family guy' tv-series episode where Peter said something like "we couldn't afford the song 'Imagine', so just Imagine this is 'Imagine'" (I think it was from the latest season as of fall 2021, somewhere between episode 1 and 3 of the season, oh right, they we're in a record store discussing artists, then they did 3 segments in total where Peter, Quagmire and Stewie each had.. wait.. why Am I typing this when I could just look it up?.. ah, Wrong I was about which season, it was episode 18 of season 17, just search for "family guy imagine" and you'll find it.. .. ..Imagine 'Imagine' while Imagining 'Imagine', while Imagining 'Imagine'..)

[@firehobetgamer]

Good fun

[@pressmomo]

I'm the 111k viewer and I'm watching this 1week later

[@IvanStamenkovicSeemsIndie]

Oh Linus and Luke, so naive :D nobody is going to just put the twitch code online and rebrand and call it a day. People are going to use their proprietary code bits and pieces, and possibly spin of some other services.

[@Welshmanshots]

yo VapeWorld sounds dope