What They Got WRONG In 'Lone Survivor' | "All They Know Is War"

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[@AHDparkour]

“A bullet needs to be right once” Is such a hard ass line.

[@agmsmith4079]

Yeah, you should watch some of the full length interviews with Rob. He has a lot of those profound one liners. The big thing that still makes me well up is when he talks about kissing his wife and kids goodbye for what he thought and assumed was the last time, because they ALL expected the Bin Laden raid to be a 1 way trip. They all were expecting to die while in Pakistan on the bin laden raid. But when he says he did the mission anyway for the woman who jumped to her death off the tower and still had the decency to hold her skirt down as she plunged to her death, and for all the other people in the towers that lost their lives because of this guy (bin laden), they all (all the seals) decided to sacrifice themselves to get justice for the families of the fallen. Wow, just such a powerful statement. That is true heroism right there. Doing the right thing for your fellow countrymen, no matter the cost. It reminds me of the Pararescue creed “...these things we do, so that others may live...”. 🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸. God bless our men and women in the military. We sleep soundly at night because rough men and women stand ready to confront (and commit) violence on our behalf

[@tailwind12]

it needs to be the "correct" choice. that is not semantics there is a difference. here is another difference. i am retired CG and did 5yrs of contracting in iraq for DoS. mobile 75% of the time. and "no" i do not have a YT channel and talk endlessly on my exploits, actions, conduct, ect. there is no me, me, "me" and me aspect like in these discussions. another aspect-these guys and mr. "i did bin laden" if you hear, read all there talk and others. a proper foreign operative can solve the puzzle on training, equipment and tactics. might come to a grand big surprise here..but non-US citizens, outside of the US watch, learn and probably "record" these near tell-all "bs" YT shows. nobody. i mean n-o-b-o-d-y can talk hours and hours on end like these guys do (for reasons i have utterly no idea why-except $ and ego) without revealing sensitive information on those topics. from my mission time, i knew later 2 retried agency guys. one living in the philippines. you would never know it. he looks the part, educationally, knowledge is there. low key is an understatement. even in the PI islands all respect and like him. he 'yapps to NOBODOY like these guys do on YT. if you asked him to be a "guest" one of these YT channels he would laugh at you and walk out the door. has a hot 29yoa PI wife, dog, home and teaches online at a US college. even there he is listed as a "retried" govt. employee from DoE. o'neil even braggs how people buy him drinks in the bar at the gate of the domestic airports. -boasting and talk is weakness...limiting communication is "king"-

[@julianjohnson6399]

“A bullet only needs to be right once.” Fuck.

[@zomb1370]

Well they also left the part out of the movie where Marcus was found will 9-10 full mags of ammo in his kit. Oh and there were only about 6-8 enemy fighters not the hundreds pictured in the movie. You can watch the actual video taken by the enemy.

[@AshlandMan]

Even in his after action report he only states about two dozen enemy present.

[@BradYaeger]

I have to paraphrase a bit because it's been awhile since I watched it but Michael Palin put out a documentary about traveling the Himalayas and in it he talks about an Afghan village whose members have blond hair and blue eyes and speak Greek because they descend from the time of Alexander the Great's conquests. Imagine that kind of remoteness and isolation . Not to mention just how many times armies have tried to take this land .

[@mikefitzpatrick43]

TRUTH. Even Alexander told his mom even the sand is evil in Afghanistan

[@thegreatest1176]

Yeah that part of the country is called nuristan province, and is where korengal valley is near at.

[@JoseFlores-pm7qg]

I thought that the guy who saved Marcus Luttrell and took him into his home, said that the goat herder wasn't the one who warned the Taliban that the Seals were there. He said they already knew that the Seals were there due to the loud choppers they arrived on. That's how they were able to mobilize and track them so fast. I believe he also said that there was no more than 15 to 20 Taliban fighting against the Seals, which is still a heck of a lot of fire power for ANY four trained soldiers. That's why Luttrell and the guy who saved his life had a falling out. Because that guy had a problem with Hollywood's story. And didn't want to go along with the lie. At least that's what I saw on a documentary of Mohamed Gulab.

[@dosidicusgigas1376]

@@acedup00 He saved Marcus and stayed in contact with him for years man. They were friends, and he put his life on the line many times to protect American Seals.

[@DesertRat21990]

@@dosidicusgigas1376 exactly, gulab was a wanted man after luttrel was rescued and had to survive many assassanation attempts and lost family members in the process, he then begged usa to get him out of afghanistan or he was sure to die, the man lost everything.. gulab is a true hero.

[@dosidicusgigas1376]

@@DesertRat21990 yeah he is. He event went to the US & had a falling out with Luttrell. I found that part really sad since Gulab finally made it to the US only to lose his friend after so much hardship and loyalty

[@davidiglesias9549]

20 Afghanistan fighters against 4 navy seals is child's play

[@JoseFlores-pm7qg]

You know how Hollywood is. Remember....they made the movie Inglorious Bastards, and there are some people in today's society, who believe that Hitler got sprayed and blown up in a movie theater by a guy named....MARGAITTE.🤣

[@59jalex]

The problem I had with Lone Survivor is that Hollywood made it and said it was "the truth". In hindsight, it couldn't be further from the truth. If Hollywood had said, Lone Survivor is a tale of misfortune that involved ultimate sacrifice and full of incredible action, it may have been regarded as one of the best ever films of its genre. RIP to all who died.

[@undrwtrbsktwvn1110]

He's right about them being at war for so long. But it's crazy for them to still think they were at war with Russia when that ended in the 80's.

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

@@ambiance5352 what

[@rush24fit45]

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[@vlone2483]

@@ambiance5352 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm fucking dead after the DLC packs that war was intense I damn near was traumatized of how brutal that was

[@unluckytourist]

It was common. For some of the real backwoods dudes their only frame of reference for outsiders is Russians or Arabs.

[@donnybrasco9330]

You realise USA & Russia are literally in a proxy war right now?

[@Brewtuhl]

People in Afghanistan haven't been at this since the 70s. They've been at it forever. Alexander had trouble with them.

[@blakekenley1000]

I was a ground pounder in 2011, the whole thing about them thinking we were Russians is absolutely true.

[@USAAMERICAFUCKYEAH77]

Damn how'd your dick turn out is it still dangling/hanging?

[@MonicaSantos-mj1eq]

Why did they think you were russians?

[@ball3677]

​@@MonicaSantos-mj1eqBecause they fought the Russians before them

[@ZAN-THE-GOAT]

@@MonicaSantos-mj1eq. If you want to go back in time. I mean really go back in time to the biblical times and ways of living. You go there. The mountains are so steep, some villages on one side have never met who lives in the other. It’s crazy There are places that have never been discovered by human in Afghanistan & it’s only because of 20 years of occupation that some of these areas where found. Mainly by drones as no human could survive the trip climbing 🧗‍♀️

[@steveguse4481]

​@@ball3677No internet

[@abcamacho6187]

🔥 pod. Dope addition to the network, can't wait for more

[@ojwalker67]

This is so interesting man. Thank you for expanding the audience

[@turnpikeike1242]

Joe budden Turing into Joe Rogan?

[@craigmills6275]

Trying to lol. Trying to bring in these white dollars even though he is MR. Black Power.

[@abcamacho6187]

@@craigmills6275 you're smoking some good shit

[@sinatra617]

Nah he turning into Vlad. Joe ripped Vlads blueprint with these little 7 minutes video of the same interview lol

[@jn8052]

He’s trying to show his versatility in order to grab the bag…

[@KDOT.616]

No, Joe Biden

[@spencethegreat38]

A close friend of mine is a former Marine that had 2 deployments back during the Obama administration. He had told me he didn't agree with the Taliban's morals and religious ideologies, but he has always said he completely respected them as warriors. Said that they're some hard dudes.

[@Marquies_Terry]

Dope interview

[@rustyshackleford706]

Great interaction and interview…this is what you get when you don’t interrupt the guest

[@butterscott3805]

YESSS, i hate drink champs for that reason alone

[@rustyshackleford706]

@@butterscott3805 vladtv, million dollaz worth of game sometimes as well

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

@@butterscott3805 nore is getting better now

[@quilluntouchableentity2034]

@@butterscott3805 fr I hate drinking Champs. They clap at nothing every 2 seconds and the acoustics in the room are trash

[@wbrockstar9550]

I agree about non interuption to the guest.This guy and Shawn Ryan (a former Navy SEAL also) are two of the best I've seen as far as podcasts go in relation to being great interviewers that let their guests tell the stories they wanna tell with very little interuption. Good Job Joe

[@MFBOOM100]

Love this switchup from yall 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@lastpme]

When a former SEAL with all his kills say the Afghans were good fighters who can run up mountains...those have to be some scary dudes. Also his comment about a bullet only has to be accurate once is pretty deep.

[@GUNSHIPFLEX]

Need this full interview Joe

[@Smurk21]

This is the type of content I been waiting for

[@Bull_Headed_Bagger]

I dunno. I have saw conflicting stories. The other story is that there were not even close to the number of Takiban that Latrell claimed. That they knew the seals were there and it wasn’t the sheep herders that gave them away. Locals heard the choppers. Also Latrell was found with full mags. It is suspected he ran

[@Bull_Headed_Bagger]

@Steven the Afghan guy that rescued him has a much different version of events than Latrell. There are a couple of videos floating around

[@justdontboreme]

The producer made it very clear that his goal was to make it as real as possible by keeping lattrell on the set and get it right. You don't want to fight uphill, and if it was his choice, he killed em all when he turned the farmers loose. If that's how it happened I don't believe I would have told that much.

[@docstockandbarrel]

Whether he had full mags or not, he was seriously wounded, it’s hard to know what the right thing to do if that’s you. If everyone around you is overrun and you’re wounded, do you die to die with your brothers or do you live to fight another day? I don’t think any of us can know what was right, even if his story is embellished, which from what I’ve heard was the brass’s PR decision as well.

[@thegreatest1176]

@Steven can you name that video?? or send the link

[@NT_1]

​@@Bull_Headed_Bagger where

[@thelastboomer9088]

Got out after 16.5 years. He couldn’t hVe just become a cook, like Steven Segal? 😂 “We’ll, I cook too.”

[@Brehon_TalkingFinance]

As an Army vet, I have the upmost respect for Seals! They are badass..

[@detail1090]

This is AMAZING AND FASCINATING! Joe please release more soon!!!!

[@ptaylor4923]

The most talking thing, "If we were to quit right now, where are we going to go?"

[@pieceandsole]

👏🏼 we NEEDED this content

[@Fortniteboys_64]

Great content Joe

[@BigBroDre]

Bro is about that life, salute to this Warrior.

[@adunn1809]

I completely understand why you don’t want to talk to rappers anymore 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🥃 much respect 🫡

[@antawonmccline7347]

Great interview bro. I can see u taking that Joe Rogan space.

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

Thx 4 sharing.

[@konkyolife]

This is such inside information I feel like I should be able to hear this. Best story teller ever.

[@smoothkeys2414]

I enjoy content like this Joe.

[@az0922858]

2:10 chills

[@shawnmurphy4069]

When this story came out it was a huge topic of conversation in the long range reconnaissance community. Initially the recommendation was for army LRS to handle the job. They weren't because they didn't want to ask the army for help. Now army LRS had decades of experience in this mission and when we reformed the units back in the 80s we rewrote the doctrine and the subject of what to do when teams are compromised by civilians. They would have wound up in a shallow grave because the mission is paramount. We also had 6 guys for a reason. Any smaller and they lack the ability to defend themselves and larger and they can't hide. The SEALs should never have been given that mission and their arrogance kept them from seeing the clusterfuck it could turn into. Warfare is about using the right assets for the mission. It's amazing there was 1 survivor. But unfortunately we have to keep relearning lessons and trying to play catchup. The military thinks we don't need LRS teams and can do it with electronics.

[@iknowthetruth8479]

Yeah being in a Recon unit and on a team of 6-8 guys moving miles on miles to gather info and if we was compromised first move was to get away

[@oswaldcobblepot502]

Read the details about ORW and you'll discover they literally did everything wrong. Chose to land so close to their target that they got compromised immediately and were easily tracked down and ambushed by the locals. They went in so woefully unprepared that they had no chance of surviving the situation they put themselves in. And then, Marcus Luttrell gets rescued with all of his magazines still full of ammunition. It was more of an execution than an ambush honestly.

[@GATOR_MCLUSKY]

had buddies at diviison and core lrs see a e4 with halo wings like wtf, tf devil 82nd had command thing was 160th wouldnt fly unless it was a jsoc element that was the hiccup

[@MOliveira-m5h]

The most interesting part of lone survivor is when Marcus said that when Gulab found him he knew that he would help him. That means that he saw something or felt something where he could tell that he gave him the FULL CONTRACT. It's like the look where he's agreeing to fly into a building with you. He gave him the Thelma and Louis look where he knew that he was going to stick with to the end into the canyon. He gave him the FULL CONTRACT where whatever they did killing his family or whatever he's not going to break the contract. That's the weird part because that's kind of why you were there. You can see that in certain people where even if it's just work their not going to leave you even if it's 110 degrees. That's not "knowing war". that's a religious thing. That's like with marriage where it's supposed to be tell death and stuff but it's usually not really the FULL CONTRACT.

[@madride858585]

Real hero’s don’t talk and profit off their actions.

[@robm321]

"I wanted to see my daughter's get married", no pressure on the dude that wants to date your daughter or anything 😳

[@14goldmedals]

He may end up with 2 daughter-in-laws too. You never know man.

[@teammusketeers]

@@14goldmedals 🤣🤣👍

[@jorgerosales609]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 who is your daddy? Oh the guy who fought the Taliban and manage to be lone survivor by holding to the dream of seeing me get married 🤣😍🤣😍

[@beerleaguetender05]

This dude loves the camera time. Totally opposite of being a quiet professional.

[@tailwind12]

thank you-could not agree more with you...110%. you are correct. from my mission time, i knew later 2 retried agency guys. one living in the philippines..and he was former SF/army before agency. you would never know it. he looks the part, educationally, knowledge is there. low key is an understatement. even in the PI islands all respect and like him. he 'yapps to NOBODOY like these guys (oneil) do on YT. if you asked him to be a "guest" one of these YT channels he would laugh at you and walk out the door. has a hot 29yoa PI wife, dog, home and teaches online at a US college. even there he is listed as a "retried" govt. employee from DoE. o'neil even brags how people buy him drinks in the bar at the gate of the domestic airports. wow-impressive, rob. maybe the wrong muslim that snuck a weapons through TSA..will so "desire" to buy you a drink at the airport one day. exactly-so much for unassuming, quite and work "in" the background of the operation and it's "mission".? when i would fly back to dubai to go to the sandbox..twice i saw a agency guy sitting quietly in the corner of the bar. with no body else. not "telling" story's ect. and i would not acknowledge him, and he would not acknowledge "me". same-same when we got on the plane and then we both go our both ways...respecting each other and their work. no "yelling"...he are you the guy that did bin ladden, "bs". ...boasting and talk is weakness..limiting communication is "king"... these show are for $, likes, thumbs up and he "hit" the subscribe button so some can make some cash. 'bless the quite man..not "this" money making bs on YT...talk, talk, talk and "talk" rob and "others".

[@esk8er900]

Did anyone else get a MrBallen podcast ad for Amazon Music??? Wtf I thought KZbin was spazzing out. I’m still not happy about the move but I’m happy another SEAL had gone on to happier things in retirement…. All these guys are such a major inspiration!!

[@haveaday1812]

The biggest thing they got wrong is the fact that Gulab contradicted just about everything Marcus said. Including finding him with his full load out, not a shot fired. But that’s an inconvenient little fact nobody wants to talk about.

[@robm321]

We don't want to talk about it because it sounds batshit crazy. So the other 3 teammates were shot killed and Marcus didn't for a single shot SMH 🤣

[@agmsmith4079]

Well... my question to you is do you speak Pashto? If not then how do you really know what Gulab said? I’m friends with several Pashtuns. I can tell you what certain “investigative journalists” claim Gulab said and what he actually said are two totally different things. Also the fact that Lutrell and Gulab are friends also points to the supposed “journalist” being full of S$&t. When you actually dig into the story, you realize the person actually spreading this BS never talked to Gulab directly, they talked to a couple other people who knew ppl who knew Gulab and they said THROUGH A TRANSLATOR that they were told Gulab said all these things. The “Journalist” and I use that term loosely, then turned around and swore Gulab told him personally, which he did not and could not because the “journalist” doesn’t even speak Pashto, never traveled to Gulab’s village and never actually interviewed Gulab. Those are the facts. Everything else is here say.

[@agmsmith4079]

Have you ever crawled on your belly after being shot up and blown up? After having to stuff DIRT in your wounds because you ran out of and lost all your medical kit? So you expect us to believe Lutrell lost all of his medical supplies while tumbling down the side of the mountain but ALL OF HIS MAGS AND RIFLE were still on him and fully functioning??? Do you realize how absurd that is? Yet that is the story this supposed “journalist” is pushing and you are eating it up with a spoon. Hahaha. Test the theory. I’ll clack off a couple charges in front of you on a steep 60 degree angle mountain side and you can fall and tumble down the side... we’ll see how much stuff you still have on you when you finally stop falling. Let’s see how easy it is for you to retain ALL YOUR MAGS and your rifle... I’ll give you a hint, it’s almost impossible.

[@robm321]

@@agmsmith4079 So, all the US forces that recovered the bodies and said that Marcus had 11 bullets left in the after action report were all making it up? And Marcus took all those bullets and never bothered to return fire as they kept retreating, not single shot? As I said that's batshit crazy.

[@dragonsofthunder]

@@robm321 man I actually read the article and it makes since man. Marcus lied about a lot.

[@airikwilliams6720]

I love his stories!!!

[@Just_dre_]

Wonder when the full interview drop 👀

[@itsmeshaq]

Drop the full Sode Joe I got mad time on these ppl clock 😭🤣

[@rapsta2255]

The full "sode" is on Patreon. It's really good man.

[@tanyaflanders2196]

Unbelievable what men and women endure in the military. So much respect. ❤

[@Ider4_Ever]

Only thing the movie got wrong was they got compromised on insertion, way too many enemy combatants in the film, Marcus didn’t flatline, no triumphant victory battle, Shah was a minor player at the time that hadn’t killed any marines, SEALs were augmenting a Marine operation…it’s Hollywood….

[@bennyc2426]

“The only thing it got wrong was how steep the mountain was” lol, sure. Everything else was accurate 😂

[@kennyroberts7989]

Korengal.. two great documentaries

[@matthewsharkey5685]

"A bullet needs to be right once" is the most down to earth thing a man has ever said.

[@protennis365]

Mohammed Gulab say there was a lot of inaccuracy in the movie and Marcus lie.

[@KevinWood44]

There is an interview online with Gulab (the villagers who saved Marcus, but does not like him very much these days) who said there was at MOST 14 Taliban fighting against SEAL team 10 and both the villagers and the Taliban knew Americas were there....Which explains why they found them so fast. Do you think that is true?

[@peterfarell7696]

The report from the search team who went to retrieve the bodies also stated they found no taliban bodies.

[@allent887]

Dude totally reminds me of the team guys I used to support.

[@heathgriffin7609]

Like I said... AMAZING!!!!

[@Sk3llUp]

Joe this is very interesting. I can listen to this guy tell the story all day, great story teller.

[@PrinceOfTheCity1]

So you should look up the other interviews he has on KZbin like the one with Shawn Ryan

[@sigspearthumb3249]

So can he.

[@11breaper68]

Yeah a story teller, like how he tells about him being the one who killed OBL. He just shot into his dead body while walking past him after the number 1 man killed him. Guys like him just want fame, Sad!

[@PrinceOfTheCity1]

@@11breaper68 no he actually shot bin laden 3 times in the face with 300 blackout ammunition. And then had to literally put his face back together to take a pic for the president and cia

[@sigspearthumb3249]

@@11breaper68 That's why he's PNG'd at DEVGRU and has his name engraved on the Rock of Shame.

[@abdulgranville5544]

Damn where can i find the rest of the interview tho??

[@BoomerElite4u]

Even Iraqi's in the middle of Baghdad would sometimes assume we were French. Our unit was the first unit to switch to the ACUs, so I think it really through them for a loop and they thought we were a different country altogether.

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

lit ep.

[@goosedubby4472]

So I'm guessing/hoping this droppin tomorrow?.🙏✌️

[@heathgriffin7609]

Wednesday on Patreon

[@mariahasmr9184]

@@heathgriffin7609 it was uploaded this morning on patreon

[@MbisonBalrog]

Mountain being so steep should been advantageous for the commandoes already up there

[@ferrallderrall6588]

The Taliban had a camp up higher ,its been awhile since I read the book but found it odd the kid ran downhill to the village, he would have run uphill to the camp because radios were sketchy and it only took about an hour for the guys up high to mobilize in numbers,

[@yourlifeisagreatstory]

The locals of the terrain will always have the literal home field advantage. They grow up playing on it and are raised working in it. A stranger walking into the area can only try to adapt to the land.

[@ZxRiGxZ]

Incredible

[@johndsmith-gv8zh]

Amen 🙏 brother

[@abe5604]

A this man is a real national treasure, thank you so much for your service, you brought closure for my losses.

[@Horgler]

If these movies and book deals have taught me anything, it's to be incredibly skeptical of any SEAL trying to sell his story.

[@eclark9965]

Nonsensical anecdote aside, the luttrel incident is well documented. Perhaps you had another story in mind you could be specific about

[@ParkerGuy89]

@@eclark9965 I think he's referring to this guy (Rob O'Neil) being such a stooge like he single handedly stormed the compound and killed Bin Laden alone. He's trashed in the SF community yet people still put him out there like he's an expert on everything.

[@eclark9965]

@@ParkerGuy89 I’ll have to take your word. I’m definitely not plugged in to the minutia of the vin laden thing. I’ve never even sought the story of that night. It always seemed a little odd to me

[@ParkerGuy89]

@@eclark9965 Yeah if you Google his name one of the first things is his controversial statements regarding events that night. SEALS have an ethos of being anonymous (especially team 6) and not bragging or celebrating your work in the teams and he violated that.

[@joblakelisbon]

@@ParkerGuy89 His book was given clearance by the ministry of defence. His description of the operation that lead to Bin Laden's death has assisted many American families with overcoming their grief over 9/11 - this is a large part of the reason why he has gone public. He has put a huge target on his back by doing so and it's almost inevitable that at some point he will be attacked. Regarding ex spec ops guys making money off their time in the forces - unless they do twenty years they won't get a pension. In most cases they have to get a job. If you have done exceptional things during your previous career it make sense to leverage that. He legally can't give away relevant details such as operations tactics or personnel and he is very aware of that. His insights regarding the operations are extremely interesting for the general public and American citizens trying to understand what these teams do.

[@szn1580]

Fascinating

[@perceth]

joe budden interviewing rob o’neill😂😂

[@wesleyaarons4293]

Dude is on one

[@afffflacccck7812]

From what I heard Marcus had all his ammo and no injuries and there were no enemy Kia the entire seal team got smoked in like 7 min

[@mutavhello6654]

There's a rumor that Marcus ran away leaving the team behind. On the Taliban video footage of the incident it does sound like you hear one of the guys yell "Marcus come back!" At one point. Unfortunately only Marcus knows the truth.

[@afffflacccck7812]

@@mutavhello6654 not true at all the guy who saved him took a photo of Marcus with no bruises and all his ammo he had every round and ALL you can hear Murphy saying is Marcus come back

[@mutavhello6654]

@@afffflacccck7812 As I said, only Marcus knows what really happened on that mountainside, the guy that found him doesn't know what happened.

[@afffflacccck7812]

@@mutavhello6654 lmao how he’s he was 3 min away he reported the gunfight was 7 min long and he took all of Marcus’s ammo and he talked to the guys who wiped Marcus’s team and they had no KIA

[@mutavhello6654]

@@afffflacccck7812 the taliban claiming no KIA can't be proven, they will say whatever makes them look good. Also I was AGREEING with you that it's possible Marcus ran away, but as of now we can't know for sure.

[@The10thManRules]

Marcus should have never have been sent to ST5. He was a opioid addicted mess in deployment to Ramadi.

[@NT_1]

Huh

[@avocadosquad]

The movie got a lot of shit wrong. there’s video of the actual firefight and it’s only like 7-10 fighters at most, but really that’s all it would take if you were ambushed by guys who knew the terrain and had you outnumbered two to 1 but of course that doesn’t fit with the SEALS are invincible narrative so they made it like 100 fighters for the movie, also the guy who found Marcus said he found him with most of his kit still on, suggesting the gun fight was much more one sided than were led to believe.

[@Arbiter710]

Yea it was 7-10 fighters with heavy machine guns shooting down on them, they never stood a chance it was like shooting fish in a barrel. The SEALs went in with a very low loadout because it was only supposed to be a recon mission and then come back

[@357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X]

Yeea I remember watching it and the Taliban we're walking around and asking the seals to surrender , and you can hear somebody scream out MARCUS in English at one point

[@treynelson4946]

there's video?! yo, that's crazy.

[@CalebsCars]

So many conflicting reports. The navy stories and then the rangers stories about when they came in to save them

[@berryreading4809]

The few fighters that ambushed them had been tracking them since they heard the helicopter land the night before on top of a specific and obvious flat ridge top... They found the dropped fast rope which wasn't buried and followed a trail of non native boot prints from that location... the immediate aftermath showing much of the most probable combat evidence that took place is actually on video... This ambush was set by just a few men including doing recon, then going and retrieving an old clunky camera for propaganda purposes after realizing it was only 4 Americans... They were not compromised by the goat herders, that was either a complete accident, made up, or used to gain more Intel about numbers of fighters and equipment for the ALREADY IN PLACE jihadists. (likely numbering between 8-12 men with RPKs, RPGs, and AKs based on the video evidence) With both possible escape routes already covered from high ground, once initiated there was little fighting to be done. Terrible mission selection with poor planning from SEAL command wanting to expand its role as a mainstay special operations GROUND based unit for ALL SEAL teams early in the GWOT is what caused this shit show... Everyone else who looked at this operation plan knew it was a terrible plan, Army backed out, but the SEALs took it on anyway, even knowing they would be their own fastest QRF and would have very limited air assets... After many years the SEALs got their wish of getting off the boats and out of the water... Time will tell if it was worth the lives and the lies and the lost capabilites in other specialties that now only a few of the already few can carry out... RIP to everyone on operation Redwings and peace to their families... Sometimes you don't want to hear the truth when a pleasant lie has been spread far and wide...

[@CalebsCars]

@@berryreading4809 yes and luttrell never fired a round. Not the first time the Navy lied.

[@BarryWard12]

I wonder what the SEAL TEAM community really thinks of Rob O Neill?

[@waclac]

watch the Shawn Ryan show on youtube. Marcus luttrell and other seals like Rob hang out all the time and talk to each other

[@ricosuave8123]

You know the movie was legit when the only thing he says they got wrong was how steep the mountains actually were. I was overly impressed at the fact that the firefight scenes were bang on. The changing of the mags, _(no Hollywood magazines)_ to hitting the bolt action, actual stoppages etc. The weapons handling drills was very well done. The chaos and carnage of a real fire fight was extremely well portrayed. Great movie.

[@yungprod0343]

The changing of the mags was the only accurate thing about the movie because nothing else about the actual battle was accurate at all.

[@357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X]

The whole shooting scene was bullshit , there's actual footage of the firefight and the Taliban are talking to the seals in English and walking around like nothing

[@ShortArmOfGod]

Luttrell never changed mags in the actual fight either. He was found with all of them loaded.

[@devinjohnson2948]

Is this in patreon

[@wezite1983]

"The only thing that wasn't true was the mountains weren't big enough". How about the fact that "Lone Survivor" is a complete revision of the actual event? Marcus is said to have fled the battle long before his team members had perished. He was found with 11 mags of ammo, which was confirmed by Muhammed Gulab and the Rangers who rescued him. Eric Deming a former Seal, said that Marcus was spotted on a surveillance Predator drone running away. It was the Navy who had the book commissioned, because they didn't want people to know what really happened, because it would've embarrassed the Seals.

[@lucygrace1193]

From the stories that have come out, & continue to come out, about Luttrell’s account of how this entire operation went sideways, they got EVERYTHING wrong about Lone Survivor!

[@Yurrtee]

Joe Budden presents: True Stories

[@mjrmeeks0592]

Dawg look like Brian Scalabrine.

[@FloridaManScents]

Oh you're joking this up he's going to go super stardom

[@phillamoore157]

That movie got a LOT of things wrong (as far as the book goes). Just like We Were Soldiers completely left out what happened at LZ Albany, which was more of a story, than X-Ray. I don't think anyone is buying the fact that a goat-herder turned them in. It's already been heavily insinuated that the Taliban knew they were in that area (because America forces have the tactile sensitivity of a rusty chainsaw. CH64's are as loud as a f%&king jumbo jet), and knew the SEAL's wouldn't kill unarmed civilians, so they sent in a goat herder with a radio for their own recon. Back then, we were a bull in a china shop, because we had yet to get our @sses handed to us. And, to a certain degree we're still like that. I believe Gulab said something along the lines that everyone knew they were there, they just didn't know how many. They heard that chopper throughout the entire valley. That said, you've gotta give props to these directors who attempt doing these war/battle movies, knowing it is literally impossible to capture the heroism, brutality, sensory-overload, and sheer trauma of combat. So, they know it's a failing undertaking before they even start. The same thing happened with the movie Red Platoon, which is a book that raised the hairs on the back of my f**king neck. Absolutely love Eastwood's son, and he played a great role, but nope...that didn't come close to the book either. And, last but not least....all those books only tell you what the military allows, so there's critical info that we're not "allowed" to know that would probably answer a lot of questions. Take a look at what we've learned about our gov't, and military brass since this battle, and nothing would surprise any of us. Why weren't those Blackhawk choppers available to assist the Chinooks when they went to get those SEALS out???? To this day, that info is "classified".

[@kevincooley3410]

This is sickening. I’m so tired of this story getting told in every way but right.

[@mosquitoinmagicjohnsonshouse]

What are you talking about? He was there clown

[@desarmstrong2388]

Yo Keven what’s do you know though 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kevincooley3410]

@@mosquitoinmagicjohnsonshouse very intelligent answer, not!!! NSW members that were there also have a totally different story. It’s sickening to know these “heroes” tell lies. Do some real interviewing then get back to me

[@Lifechanging99999]

@@kevincooley3410 I agree. The team was taken out by a squad size element and Marcus luttrel seems to have run away from the fight. Rob o Neil has had his character questioned for his claim. He isn’t a reliable source.

[@mrhanky5851]

Idk what’s real anymore but there’s a lot of odd things about O’Neill’s celebrity. But I’m not sure what misdirection you’re speaking about.

[@Williamh04]

Why does buddy look like the white mamba that played in Boston a few years back

[@chiefmiyagi9802]

Lol Brian Scalabrine.

[@rapsta2255]

Funny thing is, buddy actually wanted to play in the NBA. The full interview is on Patreon.

[@Williamh04]

@@chiefmiyagi9802 yes!!!!!!

[@daveh9551]

RIP Danny 🍻

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

My name is Danny too. It's a sign

[@pepssault878]

And a airport lol

[@junebug8623]

Drop it already.

[@rapsta2255]

It's on his Patreon.

[@jamaicanbkslimaz]

@@rapsta2255 we aint paying for that

[@GoodClipsTV]

The grown ppl with money do

[@farmerjohn5935]

@@GoodClipsTV 🤣🤣🤣

[@slimwilson]

“MARCUS, COME BACK!” Michael Murphy while Luttrell was shuckin and jivin the fuck out of there

[@1rrhjh]

Joe doesn't need a podcast with a team he Gucci solo

[@RensTop40Playlists]

So funny.... Great idea I'll just interview a trained killer alone 🤣

[@infinagon]

that boi on that good blow. He talkin a mile a minute

[@cam0x195]

Naw some these dudes just have the jitters.

[@infinagon]

@@cam0x195nah, I know a powder head when I see one

[@headshotjones7726]

Naa he not sniffing enough he either that type of high energy guy or on addys

[@infinagon]

@@headshotjones7726 nah pure coke in his nostrils

[@cam0x195]

@@infinagon no

[@kixigvak]

So how come these experts on war didn't expect to run into a kid herding goats? Where did they think these people grazed their goats? No farm boys in the Seals? Once they met that kid the mission was over.

[@fxlegacy7085]

Joe, show more respect for dudes like this, just saying

[@jayvee1272]

Great to see a fellow Red Wings veteran

[@albertoamoruso7711]

Yes, also there was no 200 men big, hours long battle but rather a 5 mim ambush during which not more than 20 Talinans killed 3 SEALs suffering no casualties.

[@grimmes1159]

Y’all ever wonder what seal team 1-5 were busy doing??

[@mattstephentabamocosmic]

He said the movie didn't get right the scene when they are falling and how steep the mountains. If the movie seems so horrible and hard how much more the real geography and scene.

[@xxkrnplaysxx1683]

The shitty thing is that there was a Special Forces FOB about 5 miles from the fighting that was going so the shitty part is the lack of communication. If these SEALs knew that then they could have made their way down there

[@daviel1005]

I know I'm getting the wrong end of the stick on this story completely, but surely a better response to 9/11 would have just been to increase airport security and secure all borders? As always when you invade another country, you've got the watch, but they've got the time.

[@dannyrichards-nb9sh]

I was there that day next to it nyc

[@tomevans4402]

Damn

[@michelle60134]

Thank God America has guys like him and his fellow soldiers 🇺🇸

[@TBaggingSociety]

Sailors

[@tamil1001]

Since they didn't want to kill the goat herder, all they had to do when they ran into him and the kid was call for the helicopter, pick them all up, and drop off the goat herder and the kid off at a later time and abort the mission.

[@tomjeffery3985]

I was wakeboarding up in Canada in the ocean and a seal popped up right next to me in the water.. Scared the shit out of me.. and that was the other kind of seal.

[@ROMADAYZ]

Rob McNeil is the biggest waffler going

[@xpat73]

I've heard this said that the Taliban - like them or hate them - are so fucking fit compared to even western special forces. They live all the time in those mountains and are conditioned to super human levels by our standards.