What to Train First Protection Or Obedience for Dogs

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Hans-AlpineK9Real

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@thankmelater1254 3 ай бұрын

This is sophisticated understanding being taught. Probably never before on youtube.

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

@muleridinfool 3 ай бұрын

Another gem, "if your training is not logical and natural, then you are not doing something right". Well said.

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

@jimmyj1236 3 ай бұрын

I had encounter with a coyote over the weekend. 5am having coffee on the porch. With my wife and our 4 chihuahuas. The Shepherd behaviour changes. Ears forward air scenting tail pin straight chest wide open. Coyote doesn't see Shepherd yet. Too busy hunting. As soon as it jumped the stone wall on to property. The Shepherd wanted to kill it, in defence. He was pissed off. Charged it no hesitation. Coyote ran for its life. I recalled him no problem. Defensive dog of his family knows its not a game and the bond is stronger. Now my sister has my dogs sister. She is extremely defensive 3 kids in the house. She will follow them everywhere those are her babies. She's gone through the window at the UPS driver. About a year ago " Attempted " break in. I say Attempted because the idiot got stopped as soon as he came in because she grabbed him up by his neck after knocking him down by nailing him in the chest. She would had killed that idiot if my brother n law wasn't home. Very strong dogs genetically. No nonsense dogs. Point is defensive dogs are real dogs..😎😎

@hans-alpinek9real Ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing.

@EvrySingleTime Ай бұрын

I really appreciate this channel and your point of view- One bought with decades of experience. Ty.....

@hans-alpinek9real Ай бұрын

Glad to help and thank you for listening

@edriccarrington9427 3 ай бұрын

Saw you recently somewhere else. Tracked you down and just subscribed. Outstanding info, always. Thank you.

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

@Elitecorso 3 ай бұрын

Man I really appreciate this podcast helping me and my upcoming kennel very very informative. Also love you believe in defense

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

@williamchee6873 3 ай бұрын

Han’s is the Best !!! Has forgotten more than most trainers know !!! Sells The Best imported German Shepherd Dogs and Puppies in the Business !!!

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Love you brother!

@derekcrouse7798 3 ай бұрын

Simple and effective concepts and approaches. Love this...gotta think what you want.

@hans-alpinek9real 2 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Ramaganjaman247 3 ай бұрын

I just subscribed and I’m getting a shepherd puppy in 3 weeks I’m using German commands instead of English. So it’s going to be fun and I’ll be watching

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Always use foreign language commands - especially during protection.

@Ramaganjaman247 3 ай бұрын

@@hans-alpinek9real thanks for the response I will continue to learn from you my friend

@thankmelater1254 3 ай бұрын

That's not a good idea and this is why: 1.If you are not a German speaker, your pronunciation will not be stable so your signals will be semi-effective in THE BEST scenario. 2. Other people know the German commands and they see a GSD, so... 3. Much better to train using a non verbal hand signal first.

@thankmelater1254 3 ай бұрын

If you want to use verbal commands, why not use your native language and use different words or just sounds, that nobody would ever think of?

@Ramaganjaman247 3 ай бұрын

@@thankmelater1254 should have stated I live in Australia where English is our language don’t understand ? I speak English and it my dog so I’ll use German and Czech commands To have fun and also what does full correct pronunciation matter ? I’m the only one saying these words and I do speak proper

@lukeryuzaki2328 3 ай бұрын

I am not counter arguing here, but I think what you meant in this podcast is for dogs that are selective bred for protection. Not a Lab, or Golden Retriever. I meant you can do agitation exercise with Golden Retriever to build up confidence, and teach it how to distinct threat (command) and nonthreat. But for non protection dogs, you're better off with obedience first then introduce some aspect of protection to allow the dog to express all of its natural instinct (fight instinct need to be be honed else, default flight instinct would give you a nervous neurotic dog when the unexpected occurs in life ). Also regarding the in drive training with food, toy, play reward, I wouldn't argue for them for a true personal protection dog, or police working dog. What I am trying to clarify is, at the advance stage of their in drive training, the receiving the reward phase is no longer the most rewarding moment. The anticipating phase/ performing the tasks is. The meaning behind in drive training is actually creating a state of addiction for the dog! The dog is intoxicated, so it heavily depends on genetic strength to stay clear minded and stay in control. That's the reason that in drive training from both sides of the coin (force free and full quadrant training) has to go back and forth between drive building, and control to prevent the dog going out of control. It's also the same reason force free side is against protection work and protection dog, and full quadrant pro in drive training side always warns random Joe against doing protection/agitation work with their dogs. They know that the way they build drive is very dangerous while doing protection work, if it's applied on the wrong dogs with weak nerve. In reality, as I said, dogs all have some defensive fight instinct that can be used in training to teach dogs certain things, even if they don't have the potential to do true protection work. Not all dogs can forcefully switch from driven state of prey drive into fight mode of defensive drive (weak nerve dogs prefer flight). However, out of drive, all dogs can go into fight mode as they started with a clear mind with training. Looking forward to your auto protection/defending home training podcast, Mr Hans.

@lukeryuzaki2328 3 ай бұрын

Forgot a few lines in my comment: When addicted dogs get high in drive, it does boost the aspect of performance of the task which dog sport encourages. However, in real life situation, especially for personal protection sport, living with an addict (dog) is not pleasant, since the dog always want to have fun, get high (self serving). You have to keep up with the demand for work of the dog. That's unhealthy for both owner and the dog, as physically both would burn out (the very same issue with addiction), even if you can use the addiction positively by enhancing the performance of the dog in sports. And it's unnatural and unrealistic that you have to find threat, having dramatic life every day. So it's no way the type of true protection dog to live life on the edge.

@hans-alpinek9real 2 ай бұрын

I have read your post 2x and still am not sure what you are trying to tell me. :)

@hans-alpinek9real 2 ай бұрын

Also p[lease keep on mind that I do not train sport....not any more.

@TravisSimpson-w8p 2 ай бұрын

22:24 the knowledge of this man…. I would love any advice on training Doberman from him. Or what videos I should buy that would help with the known temperamental habits of this Breed 28:23

@hans-alpinek9real 2 ай бұрын

Travis it should not be any different for Doberman. I train 3 dobermans with this method right now and I have trained probably well over hundred of them that way. It is safe to say that i HAVE LEARNED MOST OF THIS TRAINING IN DOBERMAN AND ROTT KENNEL . It was called Sun Valley Kennel; I Have also train in this way in Kimbertall Dobe and Rott kennel.

@simonelabo1027 3 ай бұрын

Great video! I bought your 1st protection video.. but I am in the case where my strong leadership position is shutting down too much my yara cane corso.. I ll follow your suggestions to step aside and let s see improvements.. thanks!

@jw-vx8im 3 ай бұрын

Send Hans one of your videos for advice

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Feel free to contact me on FB as Hans Alpine. With purchase of the video you get free coaching over the internet.

@kylealgie9101 3 ай бұрын

Wow only 4k subscribers...funny thing..I never subscribe after 1 video..1st 1 I watched was your story..I subscribed right after..surprised you don't have more

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀 The channel is growing which I am happy about.

@jamesmankhwaziesq3818 3 ай бұрын

We wish we had a Hans on each part of the world.

@Arivmario 3 ай бұрын

A very, very accurate comment. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@Noahsark17 3 ай бұрын

We do.

@damienmcfarland4397 3 ай бұрын

Who is we? Just you

@Arivmario 3 ай бұрын

@@damienmcfarland4397 👀🤣

@hans-alpinek9real 3 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your support :)

@thankmelater1254 3 ай бұрын

Upon appropriate occasion with puppy on porch showing aggressive warning; first the natural behavior allowed, and labeling or naming of the behavior for the dog. Then modification/correction to bring it under leader control.

@hans-alpinek9real Ай бұрын

Great way to put it!!!!!