What was Timbaland Thinking???

[@vukan.mp3]

lowk feel like if a famous artist put vocals on that it'd be hard to a lot of the people who were hating. idek much abt Timbaland but ik that many beats sound empty but all they need is vocals, not more shit in the beat

[@smoothsavage2870]

I feel the same way. There wasnt really an issue with the beat to me. The only issue i had with Tim was his demeanor during it, but that's it.

[@Topcatyo.]

True, beats for rapping over and beats meant to be heard as instrumentals are going to (or should) have different amounts of production going on in them. He's doing a vocal-rhythm mimic in several parts of the video so he obviously imagines vocals on the track. Now, for this sort of video, is it a good idea to make a vocal-centric beat instead of a production-focused one? Maybe not.

[@vukan.mp3]

@@Topcatyo. very true thats exactly what i was thinking

[@PhilBeatz1]

@@smoothsavage2870nah man if I dropped this beat on beat stars, it would get 0 sales

[@hockeytalk6084]

Actually a really fair point and I felt similar. I’m not the biggest fan of Timbaland necessarily but a lot of producers forget that they’re making beats for rappers and not other producers. There’s a reason why so many of the beats that land major placements are relatively simple and leave a lot of space for vocals. I had to start cutting sounds out of my samples because of this. Of course there are always exceptions

[@predatorx8081]

Why is he acting like he doesn't recognize the sample. Kanye has sampled this before on Late Reg.

[@predatorx8081]

Beat was smooth 👌🏽

[@gammypage]

Ever considered he hasn't listened to all of Kanyes stuff? Or wanted to try his own take on it?

[@ricochetsixtyten]

Yeah and I mean its generally a super famous song

[@middaymeds]

This is a classic record in general, anyone who knows their history of different genres knows this. I can't believe he doesn't know fucking Gil Scott Heron.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

​@@gammypage He would know, come on man He did the same with a Dr Dre sample from 2001, He or his team or all the supposed Hiphop lovers around him would know. Timbo talking about the history of Hiphop but yet don't have a clue about Dr Dre or K West? Out of all the records He could of picked blind He picks that one.

[@dondraperbeats]

Straight up sounds like the first 5 minutes of every sample flip before you really find it.

[@MDOT005]

Tim has nothing else to prove...

[@bigchendo9105]

facts

[@j1thegod]

I don't know, the beat was kind of hard

[@ArunThrifty]

Yeah, and it sounded like himself. To me; Whether simple or complex, Whether hard or smooth, he always has his own sound. This beat is dope.

[@510SPINESPLITTA8]

It’s not bad at all.

[@kingleo9981]

For the sample choice it was dope and unique to him, I think everybody was just expecting more from him. Also, he only used that one record. He didn’t even bother listening to the other ones. He did that one record and made a beat and was done so we all were kind of like what the fuck?

[@j1thegod]

@@kingleo9981 Hahahaha I've come to expect a little less from the whole format itself tbh. You should Kaelin Ellis's response he makes a lot of sense of what happens behind the scene

[@kingleo9981]

@@j1thegod aight I’ll look it up lol

[@SmoofBeatzz]

It's funny when people hate this much on producers who accomplished everything already. Your channel is called Weaver Beats but you only put out content to hate on producers etc, very inspirational

[@tonychopper9142]

All i can say is it's definitely a Timbaland groove, albeit a rough rendition, but given the time to cook it up properly he'll have your ass on the dance floor

[@theawdcastpodcast5086]

It could be worse…he could be a nobody doing grift videos about multi platinum producers, and trolling successful people’s failures or shortcomings, with no placements and subpar “beats”.

[@hellucination9905]

💀💀💀

[@Cashcrop91]

@@theawdcastpodcast5086 😂😂😂

[@dopemcee]

fkkk.

[@charlzincharge2281]

Deadass

[@hisayasae]

😂💀💀

[@dustynhiett9847]

I worked for Beatclub before they laid off all employees with hundred of thousands in unpaid invoices looming over imminent bankruptcy (allegedly 😉) This was filmed 2 years ago. It’s the same studio we shot the infamous MPC collab video a day later and just like that one Tims energy was “let’s get this shit done I really dgaf” and it shows. The irony of him saying “Amazon of beats” should not be skimmed over (look up strike) Tim wants to be a billionaire. There is no ethical way to a billion. You have to own the means of production in order to exploit naive artists ignorance to benefit the company (Beatclub) issue is Tim put a very inadequate person in charge of his business and it failed (allegedly) He could have done it, but as we all know Beatclub just made misstep after misstep. And those are just the public ones. If you could see behind the scenes it was absolutely hilarious. If you are a Beatclub member you are literally throwing money in the garbage. No one’s listening. 💀

[@beatz04]

Wow

[@onetwostuff]

this rhythm roulette was filmed 2 years ago?

[@Pharoah510]

How was this filmed 2 years ago when 2023 was the official 50th year of hiphop? (which timbaland referenced in the video) 🤔 at the least,this could be roughly a year old

[@dustynhiett9847]

@@Pharoah510 I'm shining a light on rampant fraud, manipulation and overall exploitation (allegedly) of artist and you comment on the time frame. 🤣 To clear things up for you I opened my hard drive and the footage is dated January 23rd 2023. Hopefully that allows you to process the entirety of my comment. Things are shot and shelved all the time. I'm actually shocked this ever saw the light of day.

[@onetwostuff]

@ exactly what i was going to say lol….

[@apexpredator_jku]

That was NOT random. First off, there was a massive jump cut when he picked the Gil Heron record. Then discards the other 2 without at least skimming through them but his Spidey senses are tingling and knows that the sample he's going to chop is on the record that's been sampled a billion times already & drops the needle & Bingo off rip? FOH ..that whole thing was pre determined and still cane up with some generic sample based beat.

[@tonychopper9142]

Right. He Magic Johnson no-look passed on the other records, fine. But he couldn't have at least skimmed through the Gilscot Heron album, to see if there was anything else of use besides that sample? Pretty sure there were other sources on there he could've used. It's Gilscot, for Christ's sake! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@KTdaLibertian]

If you know soul music as a sampler he was saying he was atracted to the last cause the name.. Gil Scott Herons a fucking goat "The revolution will not be televised" sample most people use comes from him...

[@talkforlondon]

Timbo, is not really a sample chopper. He's a music producer

[@byrdman6752]

He need his ghost producers

[@John-wv6ei]

Exactly lol

[@Official360]

Danja would've killed this

[@ReelEnigmasandTheories]

Nah fam. This beat was solid as fuck. The simplicity stood out and requires a skilled writer. He also showed how the transposing could bring a different element throughout the track. Lastly, it's a dance record and you can rarely go wrong with a dance record. I was with you until I heard the finished(semi-finished) product.

[@OMGlvl86turtlepilot]

is this whole channel just hating on different things?

[@pgettmore6057]

I think so…😅

[@CjaeMusic]

Yeah basically.

[@harrytaylor7437]

I won't watch another vid to find out but if I had to guess....

[@sonicallycorrect]

THE CAUCASOID IS TRYING TO ADVANCE HIMSELF HATING ON A CULTURE THAT HE'S CULTURE VULTURING!!

[@natethebesttt]

NO WAY. So this is my theory Producers like him are getting on this wave of trying to sell bedroom producer level gear, which fuels bedroom producer culture, which fuels the selling of courses and samples and packs to people who are going to get these kind of results. they invest in the selling of this shit and cash in. This is kind of reminding me of native instruments in 2010.

[@iambroadstrokes]

NI's lineup in 2010 was goated tho

[@arielmartin4310]

ngl that sound logic af

[@OdorGod]

Nothing will be worse than Rza’s promotional beat he made

[@doranstewartstewart6521]

I just like that it's back. It's not about if the beat is this Grammy award winning beat. But how creatively streact talents in producing

[@jbrassic5434]

Nobody expects an award winner, just something interesting. Tim just took a giant shit on Rhythm Roulette

[@doranstewartstewart6521]

@jbrassic5434 need I mention that not only is it on the spot (as well as heavily edited) but they also want you to put something together in a timely basis. Also it's meant to shake the producer up since the samples are so weird, hince being blindfolded.

[@MartinMartin-xm8xs]

He made a 4 bar loop not a full beat 😂

[@Spit1990]

It's not even a wack beat, it's just not as good as it should have been considering that he 1. completely dismissed 2 of the records without listening to them and 2. used a sample that has been flipped a million times. There is a process and he chose to completely skip past it.

[@ddhdagreat]

Hating on Tim is crazy. Its a video dude, he don't got to prove a thing at this point he's enjoying life. Yall be miserable

[@HammerStudioGames]

Hey, I'm glad that you're completely fine with mediocre crap coming from Legends.

[@prodbyselase]

Timb is a legend, but we can also call him out on his crap in recent years. Staying humble is how the greats STAY great

[@sixthsensethaproducer5190]

This is what happens when the art isn't gatekept. These guests come with disrespect

[@juliusperseus8612]

@@sixthsensethaproducer5190 these "guests" ?! What are you talking About ?! who's the guest ?

[@AbstractCatsMedia]

He did not make a beat from the record ... he put a beat to samples from the record.

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

I don't believe Timbo picked that record blind, it's used on K West 2005 Late Regestraition Album and is conciderd a favourite sample choice. All the Records in that store and Ne supposedly just so happened to pick that one, the one that's already been used by a very popular producer rapper K West.

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

Ain't timbo a scammer ? 😳

[@HOLLASOUNDS]

@ifiwantyoutofeel It looked staged.

[@calcutlass]

He had to have done this BS on purpose lol. Even the fact that he threw away the other two records in the beginning was off.

[@TravisBeckMusic]

I have the classic Timbo sample packs if you want them 😂 baby giggle and all!

[@WillyJunior]

Yes please

[@rhymezgalore]

Can i please

[@badte3f]

Can I have?

[@Beggso3]

Oh man any chance you could share it with me??

[@1120beats]

Me too fresh from B Kidd

[@williambrown8275]

Haters gonna hate.

[@ifiwantyoutofeel]

He's a scammer so

[@zander.47]

He not gonna let you hit bro

[@williambrown8275]

@@zander.47yeah, but yo momma did.

[@zander.47]

@ bro you too old to act like this 💀

[@williambrown8275]

@@zander.47just responding in kind.

[@BobbyBundlez]

honestly once he threw in the tom it really wasn't that bad. I mean sure anyone cud do it but did it make me bump my head a bit at the end? yes lol.... also the kick is actually in key

[@cassetteo]

No the bass is sharp homie

[@Sunartica33]

@@cassetteo kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mVfmeFqrOdeck&ab_channel=WeaverBeats2

[@beatz04]

It was an ok, rather generic beat at best. Sample flipping ok (but not really a challenge given the source), otherwise pretty lazy with that generic "Trap" beat. Also, in general the rule with RR is to listen to all 3 records and if possible, use samples from all 3 records. Timbo went the easy route and picked the first track of the obvious go to album of the 3. Lazy.

[@mrlofi333]

Even if the beat was lackluster it’s still Timberland nobody on KZbin producer community will EVER have the HITS or status of him. Crazy world we live in lol maybe we need a redo

[@abeautifulkaozproductions8614]

Thank you, I’m like can we just make music without judging sheesh, it’s a art, I’ve seen paintings I thought was trash but they sell for millions, it’s about what you like

[@nino4140]

This compared to what Kanye did with the same sample is worlds apart.

[@kippreggelogan9570]

Weaver a hater.

[@Durkhead]

Could be worse he could be doing walmart commercials like busta ryhmes

[@tonychopper9142]

And i bet it ain't one Bustah Rhymes cd in all of Walmart 😂 . Bus still the shit though

[@JustMe-ws2pe]

Thats not a flex, walmart is a billion dollar company... he got a crazy cheque to do that.

[@beatznatwor]

This beat was so good idk what the hate is for tbh. Literally sounded like J Cole would be on this or even Drake

[@zariisofficial]

This proves to me that Timbo is just smoke and mirrors and has a bunch of people producing/engineering stuff for him. Much like a lot of big artists, remember the truth is always stranger than fiction.

[@starsmash7491]

Agreed. He couldn't even tell his kick was out of key. Big wow.

[@zariisofficial]

@@starsmash7491 Exactly

[@AdamFraserTv]

Same as most these “producers”

[@AdamFraserTv]

Let me help you out : Sound oracle , Danjahandz . You’re welcome .

[@prosperwithcj]

@@AdamFraserTvyea I was looking at video from sound oracle I’m like this dude is nice

[@scottchayse6759]

For what it is, it sounded decent. This is the style of beat that you’d hear in the early 2000’s. Simple loop, nothing fancy, and dope lyrics on top.

[@morecowbell2611]

Instead of him sitting in some expensive studio (totally irrelevant to the video btw) wearing some green pj's, just imagine him sitting in his bedroom doing this and suddenly it all falls into place .

[@krs-fltutorials4487]

Haha wtf. This is DJ Khaled levels of trash

[@calcutlass]

Khaled beats better than this

[@tonychopper9142]

He the best!

[@HankHillspimphand]

are we ignoring him fake pulling a record. no way he didnt have a song in mind.....watching him find the right song for 2 hours? nah instant top level sample to flip, though he flopped it. but he 100% had that in his mind when he picked it

[@laotree8224]

@@HankHillspimphand if that’s the case (and I’m not saying it wasn’t) why would he choose that sample, that Ye already flipped, from a very well known artist, and not do a better job hiding it by at least acting like he was a discerning crate digger and listening to each record? I think he literally just dropped the needle on the first track on that side and was like ok whatever that’ll do

[@tonychopper9142]

In Rhythm Roulette, aren't they supposed to show you the blindfold record picking process? 🤔

[@akekekec]

“Huminaw Himinaw wittina wit inna Freekyfreaky”

[@XXIII_89]

This video was more of a scam than Beat Club!

[@jentaro]

His alias being a letter away from Timberland for legal purposes, the same brand known for manufacturing the heavy duty lumberjack boots that were made in an instant icon by rappers coming mainly from the most influential city in the game at that time, them sporting the boots in videos and photo shoots, shouting them out in countless songs while calling them Timbs (tims) for short, and at the most perfect time period while he was coming up, making the information being easily known and extra accessible for the whole world, tells you all you need to know about his creativity and imagination.

[@thecatalyst84]

Relax. This beat sucks, but peak Timbaland was about as creative and imaginative as it gets.

[@Patrxck87]

Reminds me of that old RZA video where he makes a beat on a drum machine MPC like device 😂 There are days like this where you're just better off doing something else

[@MartinMartin-xm8xs]

The Beat Thang lol. I got one of those when they came out. An absolute GARBAGE hype train. I gave mine away

[@user82938]

@@MartinMartin-xm8xs I was in a group where this one dude had a Beat Thang and was constantly trying to trade it for anything else. Like every time someone posted something for sale this dude was offering up the Beat Thang lol.

[@MartinMartin-xm8xs]

@user82938 I don't blame him 😂 They are actually priced pretty high on the secondary market... Idk who the F would want one they're terrible. I've seen the listed just under $1000. For that money there are so many better things out there. No nostalgia for that Thang lol

[@FLIPCYIDE]

Yeah, Timbaland is a Legend but this beat "Aint It", those comments about him being a top chef serving a frozen pizza had me dying lol

[@HBProdz04]

2:53 IM ON MY WAY HOMMMMEEE

[@smartmouthriveria]

I was suprised !! This was a Sick ass beat . I get it, negative videos get money on you tube but damn

[@maximustheproducer]

I liked it! Sound Dope!

[@djchippiewrekonize]

Where is a ghost producer when you need one.

[@Rio-uv1gs]

You'd have way more time to make beats if you weren't creating content.

[@inspir.edmusic]

The way he put his whole ass thumb on the vinyl 😅

[@resp0nse_beats]

If you can't make a beat with a Gil Scott Heron album........ Good lord.

[@prodPavka]

I'm watching this on a phone so idk if the low frequencies are off key but that does sound like a typical Timbaland banger beat so idk what the hate is for.

[@middaymeds]

Gil Scott Heron rolling in his grave

[@buckycore]

Real talk..Also, I think you and I are the only two commenting on this video who knows who he is

[@beatz04]

Make that three

[@JesusIced]

4

[@SOVLTRON]

Timberland also had other producers making beats for him..Danja Handz, Scott stitch, Polow da Don,Wizz, etc

[@TheRelentlessness]

They were all influenced by Timb not the other way around. Timb paved their way

[@SOVLTRON]

@@TheRelentlessness So you're saying they DIDN'T make some beats and Timbaland got the larger credit because they were part of his production company/label called "The Mosley Group"? That Timbaland and Danja didn't produce "Sexy Back" , "Promiscuous", "Lose COntrol" , "The Way I are" , "Give it to me" and more? Or are these artists featured on the production credits of the songs listed?

[@TheRelentlessness]

@SOVLTRON I saying yes they were around sure. They wasn't around when Timb was making hits for Total and Playa. They wasn't making Cheers 2 You or The Rain. You're making it out to be Timb needed Scott Storch to make Timberlake hits.

[@Des_Armoni]

yeppppppp!!! iykyk!

[@SOVLTRON]

@@TheRelentlessness No, during that time it was Static Major, Magoo and Missy.. I've never made anything out to be anything other than a statement of "Timbaland also had other producers making beats for him.. " Or perhaps I was saying a hit record is much more than the guy making a beat.

[@os2w4rp]

The bass note is out of tune by at least +1 ... I think it had potential though

[@starsmash7491]

There should be more comments about this. Surprised a legend like timbo couldn't hear it, but I heard it immediately.

[@dwayneadamsworld]

Choosing Gil Scott Heron was a cop out

[@doyadirty3804]

2:25 bro Gil Scot Heron is A LEGENDDDDD

[@terashagans2557]

In my honest opinion, Timbalands' best work came from taking his time with the process. It used to be okay to cook slowly, but now people feel like they have to cook as fast as light. Rhythm roulette is equivalent to a rapper freestyling; it's just not everyone's deck of cards. I guarantee you Dre wouldn't come on here; it's just not his sauce. All that matters is how dope the project is when it comes out....but we haven't gotten that from him in a whileeeeeeee.

[@wesmincic6462]

timbaland had a ghost producer all these years

[@MarvlosTheBeatmaker]

Danja handz ghost produced a lot of his beats

[@John-wv6ei]

So does Dr dre and swizz beats and many more.

[@notrllyus]

4:23 ive learnt bros chats is jus full of haters tbh(not even jus taking his vid to account fr)his chat literally hates on everyone bruh, its pathetic

[@TheCheckInReport]

That beat was good actually

[@richarddavid5462]

That beat actually slapped you bugging

[@JBreezzBeatz]

I fw it

[@siyagee1000]

Timbaland isn't a sample based producer. I wasn't expecting it to be just blaze level. Still respect him though he did it for the culture and not really money.

[@shawnbravo5201]

They gave him a check, And he made a cameo

[@beatsbyjiro8291]

Thats not trying to fit in with the kids now, that beat is trying to fit in with the kids in 2005.

[@kippreggelogan9570]

I liked the drums better than the sample.the beat was cool.

[@Sunartica33]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mVfmeFqrOdeck&ab_channel=WeaverBeats2

[@kingleo9981]

When he started switching the pitch of the beat it sounded way better. He should’ve left it like that.

[@thekidflames]

Say what you want about Timbo and what he’s done, but imagine someone who hasn’t accomplished 1% of what he has being overly critical of his multiplatinum, multiple Grammy-winning career. Tim Mosley is a creative mind who, at one point, shifted the landscape of an entire genre - being ridiculed and criticized just for clicks and views. Whether all those early beats were Danja, someone else, or not is up for debate. Even still, that’s wild work. But shame on Mass Appeal for getting a producer not traditionally known for sample-based beats to anchor their return episode.

[@nicker1992]

Now this is a beat i wanna Yoko Ono to!

[@peanutbutter799]

@9:20 he took the vinyl out without removing the plastic or am I trippin?

[@Jrodh93]

It’s always dope to see Bo Burnham doing stuff outside of comedy

[@tvbeastbeatz87]

I AINT GON LIE, BUT NO PRODUCER DID CLOSE TO WHAT I EXPECTED AND I LOVE THIS TYPE SHT

[@TY2CD]

I never seen other producers voiceover half of the video and come up with a bullshit chop and some drums to save the chop.

[@averywow]

Timbaland uses ableton and that makes me happy because I love ableton

[@Hideotic]

“Bad idea”

[@jzurita6186]

Its one of those blind sample picks. He put a blind fold on and chose records. The laziness was that he only listened to the first record and made a beat right away. Rather than trying all three. Thats it. But you cant compare this to something carefully crafted 😂😂

[@thomasmatthews8873]

😂just for the fun of it..I'm gonna lift the records he rejected and make some shitz.

[@DappsTheProducer]

The beat is fire tho

[@MartinMartin-xm8xs]

The beat is "ok" its not horrible but its not great either. I think that personally i expected way more from timbo... Hes been one of my favorite producers back in the day. I expected him to kill it. He wounded it instead lol

[@Tschiyeah]

bro drowning in cameltoe on the back of his head

[@prosperwithcj]

It’s making me wonder if that dude smk was really the one who had that style

[@iceprada2]

What language was timbo speaking over that beat? I heard ratharickirathabatarickbata

[@js78910]

I made better beats 6 years ago when I didn't know shit and had little equipment. A shining example of too big for your britches.

[@natturner757]

He turned a sharp left.....

[@jaybeetdown]

I didnt like it 'till he pitched it down. I feel like he wasn't going for ear candy as much as he was producing with an artist vocals in mind. He left it basic for someone to put lyrics on.

[@leibweiss]

Tony Black NYC TOLD ME About you

[@ljruss42]

Gonna call him Lugs after this

[@jasonc6624]

Let's hear your beats

[@Sunartica33]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mVfmeFqrOdeck&ab_channel=WeaverBeats2

[@Ultima_Muramasa]

​@@Sunartica33this shit horrible

[@PooriaAkhiBeats]

Why is he talking like badlandchugs ?? 😂😂

[@ACMExxWRLDtv]

its literally the same as kayne wests my way home song. wtf

[@doyadirty3804]

12:00 that wasnt a dj mustard type beat at all..

[@BuiltbyFellony]

7:50 "you have to find other ways.." like scamming folk This was 🗑 😅

[@the_handsome_bear]

It sounded better when he sped it up at the end but yeahhh for timbo that was substandard

[@Sunartica33]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2mVfmeFqrOdeck&ab_channel=WeaverBeats2

[@sergioflores5565]

Two scenarios: either Timbaland doesn't know who Gil Scott Heron is, in which case......damn. 🙈 Or, he knows him, so probably had selected it beforehand to do this demo. Just as bad.

[@tonychopper9142]

You canNot tell me in any form or fashion that Timothy doesn't know who Gilscot Heron is

[@sergioflores5565]

@tonychopper9142 Right? Specially as his beat poetry is definitely an influence on the development of hip hop in general. And it's not like TL is Gen Z and believes the movement started with Drake.....😂😂

[@LeeDaHitman]

That shit bangs F ya'll talking about

[@CreamOfBeats]

That’s why he makes the big bucks! 😂

[@usvsalltheothers]

This beat is so ass it makes that video of Alchemist making fun of rhythm roulette look like a documentary

[@AhmedMahmoud-or3zs]

Unpopular opinion but his and Swizz's beats aged the worst from this whole era imo. However the beat he did for Push "Untouchable" is immaculate tho.

Nah some of Timbos tracks back then were kinda dope... At the time(!). There's a lot of music that start to sound a bit weird or dated with time but brought new sounds and were revolutions at their time. Like some of his tracks brought a new sound, but now today all of it has already been done to death and is old.

[@yeahyeah3206]

I liked the end result.

[@babysunn2]

I Get What You’re Saying, However i Enjoyed That Beat Style More Than His Older Stuff… The Kids Are The Buyers and It’s Actually Great That He Can Change it Up. I’ll Give it A 8 out of 10.

[@tonychopper9142]

It's basically Missy Elliott Reverse It (think that's the title) drum pattern

[@babysunn2]

@@tonychopper9142 Regardless... I liked it. Most all of Hip Hop Songs Are Fragments of Other Songs... That's What Makes it KOOL.

[@tonychopper9142]

@@babysunn2 no, definitely not saying that it wasn't good or I didn't like it. Actually I'm trying to figure why people on here are acting bad towards what he MADE. It still knocked. I was just saying that that's what the percussion instantly reminded me of. Definitely authentic Tim. Some cats can't even do what he did in two hours lol

[@babysunn2]

@@tonychopper9142 EXACTLY… Everyone Wants to Be Ah Hater These Days… With No Good Reason 😏