WHAT WE DO - Ski lesson with JF Beaulieu

[@SkiWithTim]

Thank you for recording and sharing this video. It is really happy to hear JF's voice again on youtube.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching. Cheers, Tom

[@bobfrizzell1059]

Thanks for posting this Tom, great content, JF makes me proud of our Canadian Alliance; his explanations and demonstrations are so clear and concise, and different from what I hear and see elsewhere. Have to love his Quebec french accent!

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching. JF's lesson was incredibly good as he spoke of key concepts in a very clear and structured manner and gave clear visual demos. He also answered every question at length and he did absolutely not boost himself in any manner. Also spoke of skier he looked up to (not in the video). This is how lessons should be taught. All instructors take not. Watch and learn. From the best. Cheers, Tom

[@caylabuilds4740]

@11.45, sounds like good old Harald Harb and free foot management 🙂

[@Triggerboy62]

Yes. If you want to ski like a pro you need to make sure you use that inside foot correctly. Cheers, Tom

[@iandunn9497]

100%. JF has completely changed his instruction methods. He is now all about about narrower stance & lightening & tilting the inside to little toe edge. I watched a video of his from 9yrs ago and there was no talk about inside ski tipping. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH24Zqqqpr6XZtUsi=v9g6tjZt9VpxhKcy His demonstrations in that old video & his students looked two footed. Golf carts some of them. The focus was a lot about the outside ski STEERING. There is no use of the work "steering" in this video that I recall hearing. JF's ski stance has narrowed over the past decade. And he looks far far better for it. This is all very much Harald Harb's Primary Movement Teaching System (PMTS) influence, no doubt.

[@johnkim7439]

Love the emphasis on inside ski edge and shaping turns👍🏽

[@Triggerboy62]

Yes, he was talking about that a lot. Cheers, Tom

[@jimallen8022]

JF is a fantatstic communicator and ski instructor. He has many videos on you tube and is one of the smoothest skier in the world. Thanks TDK as your videos are also very infromative.

[@Triggerboy62]

Wow, thanks! Yes, I appreciate all great ski-instructors and coaches sharing their knowledge here at KZbin. Glad to have been of help. Cheers, Tom

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

Watch Warren Jobbit, his videos are also very good.

[@Hwashburn]

Trigger Boy PLUS JF Beaulieu?!? I think I've died and gone to Ski Instructor Heaven.

[@Triggerboy62]

Hahahaaa.... thanks a billion :)

[@kuanjuliu]

EXACTLY. How fantastic!

[@KarsNGuitars]

Thank you for this video. JF really gets inside the skiers' head and leaves us wanting more of the secrets behind really great skiing. Love the shot looking back at the whole group, an interesting perspective. Awesome!

[@Triggerboy62]

Nice to have someone appreciating camera angles. It was an awesome lesson. Cheers, T

[@scottpetrie8707]

This will always be the issue of skiing. What a teacher interpretation will be different from the student. That was SO clear the last 2 minutes

[@Sergey-Suslov]

Great video! A short video, but such useful information. Thanks to the author of the channel!

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks. And interesting that you think this video is not long because according to stats people watch only a couple of minutes. But your opinion is encouraging since many of us influencers like to make longer videos to put more info in. Thanks again for such great feedback. Cheers, Tom

[@arizzo5187]

Nothing about what feet & ankles are doing in the boots to start the process !!

[@Sergey-Suslov]

about feet and ankles is written on all fences... This is not interesting because it goes without saying.

[@arizzo5187]

@@Sergey-Suslov interesting please let me know where the fences are or give me a description on how ankles and feet are being used !

[@Sergey-Suslov]

@@arizzo5187 Everything I write is deleted by KZbin.

[@laowai2000]

Incredible content. Can't wait to hit the slopes in a few weeks.

[@Triggerboy62]

Have fun! Thanks for watching, Tom

[@marcosfernandezrapado2648]

Thank you so much for a really interesting video once again. Personaly I think Canadian ski method is one of the more logic methods of teaching this really technically complex sport.

[@Triggerboy62]

Totally agree! I love the CSIA concepts and approaches. Cheers, Tom

[@till6042]

Legend! 🤩 THX for recording ❤

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks, T

[@CSRjr1969]

Excellent observations and coaching points, thanks!!

[@Triggerboy62]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@malcolmmacdonald4533]

Awesome video. Really helpful on edging, pressure and stance for a relative beginner.. I will be taking these tips to the slopes.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching. And hang in there, videos like this are a blessing to all of us that cannot take lessons with guys like Jeff maybe ever. Cheers, Tom

[@ionlovsky3983]

Fantastic explanations! Thanks so much for posting!

[@Triggerboy62]

You're very welcome!

[@arizzo5187]

Twenty years later and they are just starting to understand free foot management...Harb Ski Systems

[@Triggerboy62]

Better late than never :)

[@stevie5903]

explained so well, great coach / teacher..

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you kindly!

[@ringdgg4385]

Great Tom, thanks for posting

[@Triggerboy62]

My pleasure!

[@mop9i40k]

Hey Tom! I thought what topic had never been covered on your channel. And then I saw your comment under Deb Armstrong recreational skiing video and boom that was it - the TUCK TURN. It's one of the hardest drills to focus on many different things all at once while being in not the most comfortable position in the same time. So I gave you an idea :)

[@Triggerboy62]

The tuck turn is actually something we work a lot with kids on. Because they like skiing in a tuck as fast as they can. Thanks for the tip. Cheers, T

[@jaypark4647]

Fantastic thanks for sharing.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@tommasoceretti2446]

Illuminating

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks!

[@Landwy1]

This pendulum effect explained by JF was shown in a very mild manner. If you look at Mikaela Shiffrin ski last season in slalom she did this to the extreme. Through a flush and into the next set of slalom gates she looks like she is galloping or swinging forward...a kind of dancing in a back and forth manner. The gate combination has to be just right where there is minimal turning. It so happens a slalom flush has minimal direction change and if the following gate combination has a slight direction change, all of the sudden she gains a half second on her rivals. Where in the course is this combination of gates most likely to occur? It just so happens to be the last flush before the finish. The other women in this section have their arms wide and are just arm blocking. Whereas Mikaela is swinging the pendulum in a forward manner (throwing her mass down the hill). Petra Vlhova is taller and heavier than must women on the circuit and cannot do this swing. Mikael's style is to slither thru the gates, whereas Petra's style is to overpower slalom gates. Look at 2022-2023 slalom races on video and you will see this movement by Shiffrin around a flush combination.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you for such detailed input here, taking JF's instruction and applying it to WC racing. It is going to be interesting to watch the battle between Mikaela and Petra. I see no other clear contestant to the top of the podium. Cheers, Tom

[@kuanjuliu]

Damn, that’s great insight. Time to go review some of Shiffrin’s videos ….

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

What the fuck are you talking about.? How the fuck can you throw your mass down the hill.. have you ever raced in your life? If you have you must be slow as molasses

[@MrCarftman]

WOW FROM QUEBEC

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching :)

[@BerniceWonderdog]

by leading with the inside leg (or ski edge), is that the leg / edge that will be uphill as the turn is initiated?

[@magnificoas388]

You are a legend too Tom :)

[@Triggerboy62]

Hahaa... thanks :)

[@fourftr]

As a subscriber to your channel you always get my juices flowing. Question, I’m a very athletic male senior been skiing for about 40 years. Im 6’1” tall with very little knee bend!!! As a result on steeper blue to black trails I’m 95% in the back seat, trouble controlling speed. I feel like a monkey screwing a football. Any advise.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you for subscribing. Standing all with very little knee bend should actually put you in a forward position as bending the knees puts your butt back. Could it be something with your boots or binding ramp angle? Have you tested setting in a "spoiler" at the back of your boots? Cheers, Tom

[@cmacski4066]

Just a thought, but to pull/roll the pelvis forward, I’ve had students “squeeze the cheeks” when turning or at least as they initiate the new turn

[@Triggerboy62]

Explain a bit more in detail? All those ques are great learning tools. T

[@cmacski4066]

By “squeezing the cheeks” the student can roll the bottom of the pelvis forward(rolling the top back) - similar to the old idea of F’ing the turn

[@karlo407]

Thank you for posting. If tipping is, mentally, initiated with the inside ski, what, mentally, initiates untipping, release?

[@helicrew1]

This is lifted straight from PMTS, but without any of the understanding….if you want to know how to do this properly and get a real understanding, just check out any of the PMTS clips on KZbin….you will be amazed at how far behind this video actually is….

[@Triggerboy62]

It is not only mentally initiating the turn by tipping the inside ski but also in practice. Check out my new video on how to rid A-framing for some further info. Un-tipping is a combination of turn-forces pulling you up and over as you come through the fall line and gravity starts pulling you downhill and, releasing the outside ski. Also you add momentum and force by strong angulation and other leg and upper body movements such as ankles and arms. You want a short pressure phase that is released at just the right moment. Cheers, T

[@dougdeacon6232]

Tipping is not (just) initiated mentally. It is initiated physically and continues throughout the turn. Tipping, tipping, more tipping. Tipping only ends during the transition to the next turn, when the skis are flat to the snow by definition. You don't do anything to stop it, it will stop if you transition correctly. The transition is initiated by unweighting the outside/stance ski by retracting the (currently long) leg until its flex matches the inside/short leg. At that point, your skis will be nearly weightless (assuming you aren't extending/pushing, which you shouldn't be). Since they're weightless, they're floating over the snow beneath you. At that moment, you initiate the next turn by... Tipping! Tip the new inside foot toward your little toe and pull your heel in and back. The new turn will begin. Pure PMTS, as others have noted.

[@kuanjuliu]

Tom, could you please confirm what JF was describing at 13:09? “Because your skis have shape, this one [tilt?] will give you direction, and the fore and aft will create the lateral pendulum”.

[@Triggerboy62]

I would love to but was too busy shooting the video I did not manage to ask him many questions.

[@Triggerboy62]

I need to look at the original video footage.... I'll get back to you...

[@kuanjuliu]

Thanks Tom. I appreciate so much your sacrifice! I’m pretty sure JF was saying tilt gives you direction (by setting the edge angle and using the sidecut) and then the fore-aft pendulum gives you side-to-side pendulum. I’ve only ever thought of fore-aft as an independent move only utilized to start and maintain a turn, and that the side-to-side pendulum was the goal. Re-prioritizing the “pendulums” is pretty revelatory to me, that the entire turn follows the fore-aft metronome. I am looking forward to trying it. Thanks again.

[@MaxRank]

As an amateur skier looking to improve and having had multiple lessons from a variety of coaches, my feedback to all instructors would be to slow down on the principles of skiing and work the fundamentals as singular activities. I personally feel the barrage of information can be extremely overwhelming and actually inhibit the learning process. I teach pistol marksmanship and before I worry about stance, sight alignment, vision techniques, trigger press, trigger placement and many more, the fundamental to master first is grip. Without solid understanding of grip and its application everything else is irrelevant. Skiing I have found, at least for myself, is much easier learned with small building blocks. The core fundamental I drill myself on continuously is balance. Without that core fundamental and understanding everything else is a distraction. The pendulum analogy is superb and something I’ll be working on this winter season. Great video thank you for taking the time to make it.

[@Triggerboy62]

No, thank you for watching and giving such great feedback. I myself try to do just that, talk about the grip. How to balance over the skis to produce a platform for further learning. Cheers, Tom

[@MarcoFD]

@6:41 so what he is saying is, the inside ski acts moreso as the rudder to steer than the outside ski does despite not having much pressure on it?

[@Khagrim]

Yes

[@Triggerboy62]

Yes

[@InspirationalSkiing]

JF is amazing! Thanks for sharing this lesson, Tom. I was hoping to say hi to you in Levi, but I so much was going on and I had to leave a few days early, but I will definitely be back at Levi at some point. That place is such a good ski area. /Janus

[@Triggerboy62]

Wow, so unfortunate not meeting up in Levi. There were so many people, lessons and lectures I missed but I was standing behind the camera all day out on the slope and editing videos all night. Your channel is absolutely brilliant. Im a huge fan. Particularly like your double turn video since I also use those drills but I cannot quite make the double turn like you do. My kids are better at that LOL :) All the best, thank you for watching and see you out on the slope some day and lets make some turns together. Cheers, Tom

[@krzysztofkr7878]

two masters of skiing didactic together ... nice ... please record move from these meeting

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

@@Triggerboy62yes JF, one of the best skiers in the CSIA, another is Warren Jobbit, watch all their videos. The best skiers in the CSIA as far as I’m concerned

[@WaechterDerNacht]

Thanks for sharing! That whole section about the pelvic tilt is basically explaining what I do on skis... well, the part about what you shouldn't do ^^ Goals for the season I guess...!

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for sharing! And for watching. Such a nice man JF. Great lesson. Yes, the pelvic tilt is a big issue for many. Note that he also said to be straight in the back. Something I struggle a bit with and its been a really big problem for Chris. Cheers, Tom

[@stopdripping6388]

hello, great video, great coaching..what is the song you used at the end called btw ? sounds great..

[@Triggerboy62]

Hi, sorry for not replying earlier but now I went into the editing software and it is: I Feel It All So Deeply - Bail Bonds That's from the content creators copy right free music library here on KZbin. And yes, it is a great song. I need to use it more. Thanks for pointing it out. Actually its the same music also at the beginning and during that one skiing segment. Cheers, Tom

[@undrellx]

Hei Tom! Thought provoking as usual .. i should spend more time focussing on the inside ski.. I really liked the pendulum concept, the more i ski the more i feel that it should be as simple as walking or running... which of course is actually really complicated, but its the only real trick humans have got 😂.. stay safe. Kippis

[@Triggerboy62]

Think about a monkey or a tiger. They dont have any clue as to how they should move to be fast or agile but still they do. Kippis, T

[@undrellx]

@@Triggerboy62 great analogy - I've been skiing with 2 young people, trying to help them make sense of the instructions they get in ski school, trying to get them to understand how they do the basic things that they can already do (they're both very good competitive runners). The best part is that it makes me think about what I do...

[@MultiLjolik]

I was wondering what's wrong with the poles until JF explained. I even thought that some moguls will be later:)

[@Triggerboy62]

Good observation. I am myself very interested in ski pole length and how it affects our skiing. That's why I asked him to explain why he is using such short ski poles. Personally I do not advocate that short ski poles if not for SL racing and I do swing the ski pole in a wider arc out from my body but as JF said, its an individual thing. I for example do not think that I need very short ski poles in the bumps as I keep the ski poles outwards from my body but the bump style is short ski poles arms in a narrow position pointed directly forward. BTW, there were mogul teams training at Levi a month ago and I got some great video. Try to put it up at some point. Cheers, Tom

[@MultiLjolik]

@@Triggerboy62 I was looking for proper length for me for several seasons. With the height of 170 cm I started with 135 cm poles and I was cutting them several times. Based on feelings and coach advises. Finally I got 120 cm for SL and 125 cm for GS/freeskiing. My feeling is that with shorter poles I put my upper body too low when pole planting and with longer poles I stand in the back position. Maybe the deal is not in poles at all of course:))) Btw in inline alpine I try to have feelings like with SL poles or shorter.

[@rogervalade1781]

Merci messieurs jf Beaulieu très instructif qu elle privilège de skier avec vous moi je vais vers mon niveau 2 😊merci

[@Triggerboy62]

Not sure if Jeff will ever read this but Im sure he appreciates your kind words. Cheers, Tom

[@LorneVaasjo]

Been doing and teaching this for years so fabulous to get some validation.

[@Triggerboy62]

Great to hear. Keep up your good work. Cheers, Tom

[@scottpetrie8707]

Love the pole comment

[@Triggerboy62]

Yes, me too.... :)

[@AndrewBurtonS-group]

the guy with the gray outfit what brand is that anyone know?

[@Triggerboy62]

Its the Romanian skiinstructorfederation delegates. I will find it out for you.

[@AndrewBurtonS-group]

@@Triggerboy62 thanks! :) by the way your videos are amazing.

[@billtanch8273]

Hi Tom - I think there's some tasty stuff hiding in this video hinting at "pendulum". Got plans to explore in a follow up??

[@skimangojazz]

Great stuff Tom!

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks :)

[@prasatsurin]

Duke ur standing in the middle of the piste with your class.

[@Triggerboy62]

Good observation. Always take your class to the side. Thanks, T

[@counted1894]

I dont quite get what he means with the pendulum, can someone explain?

[@jamesl2502]

The fore/aft oscillation of pressure in the foot during the turn. He kind of demonstrates around 3:47

[@wvjets2464]

You move the upper body in unison with the lower body (in this plane-only).

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

@@jamesl2502look up inverted pendulum

[@aloysiusschulte648]

If you watch him skiing down after talking about the pendulum, from the rear you will see his lower body, mostly his legs, and his skis swinging back and forth under his very steady upper body, like a pendulum.

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

@@jamesl2502 oh brother, look up inverted pendulum, in a physics book

[@Skilover]

Thank you for your video.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching!

[@Bai_L]

I think using inside knee to initiate and control the turn is also something Harald Harb always emphasis. Thank you for the video!!!

[@aloysiusschulte648]

That was a very impressive video and glad to hear Herald Harbour mentioned. He called that knee movement his mystery move. To me it is the most important start of the turn. Fantastic.

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

@@aloysiusschulte648anything that is a “mystery” move is propaganda

[@jeetgorasia6634]

Don't think about the knee, think about the inside foot, you will engage different muscles and you will engage them in the right order. The knee will move as a result of tipping the inside foot.

[@aloysiusschulte648]

@@jeetgorasia6634 You are quite right, the end result of the knee activity is the tilting of the foot to initiate the turn. The secret is to progress from initiating the turn with knee action to using the ankle action instead of the knee, it’s much quicker and the knee will of course follow the ankle pressure.That’s progress.

[@pauldurda4955]

Tipping the inside foot does NOTHING unless it's loaded

[@thomasbouchard5711]

Super Jeff👍❄️⛷

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching, :)

[@tinyskier6250]

i love how paul lorenz and riley mcglashan ski, but for me, 66, this is the guy i try to emulate ... so smooth.

[@Triggerboy62]

Well said. Jeff is a great skier to emulate. But he is also a great instructor and person. Cheers, Tom

[@nzr460t]

Congratulations.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you!

[@amundekroll7490]

I think you should look at your skiing with a critical mind.

[@Triggerboy62]

Absolutely! Happy Holidays, T

[@GregorPQ]

I'm confused... that isn't carving?

[@mieshavonedellestein1304]

Please explain what carving is there Jean Claude, oops I mean Gregor

[@Triggerboy62]

Sorry, why are you asking about carving?

[@gixmaza9960]

Use some real sticks. If you know how to ski, it won't bother you! Believe me

[@Triggerboy62]

What are real sticks?

[@amundekroll7490]

This is very sad.Saying one thing and doing something else.

[@Triggerboy62]

Please explain more in detail.....