What Will the SMASH ULTIMATE DELUXE Roster Look Like?

👉 Smash Ultimate has built up the craziest roster featuring IMPOSSIBLE characters like Sora, Steve, and Kazuya. With the possibility of a new Nintendo console launching within the next few years, it's already time to start speculating about what the next Super Smash Bros game could look like. Would Sakurai choose to cut the roster down and make a new game? Or would we receive the same treatment that games like Mario Kart, Pikmin and Donkey Kong received and get a 'Deluxe' version for Smash? I break everything down for you in this video and give you my thoughts! 👈
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⬇CHAPTERS⬇
0:00 - Intro
2:15 - Potential Smash 6 Ideas
6:35 - Base Game Characters
11:43 - DLC Pack 1
14:40 - DLC Pack 2
17:32 - Conclusion
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[@haydonj7433]

For street fighter they would definitely add chun li

[@ddsjgvk]

Put akcuma as an alternate skin like how you can have male and female for the fire emblem characters that kind of changed the name

[@ddsjgvk]

She's kind of a bit similar

[@angryboi595]

I feel like Akuma is more likely with the whole hero then villain Sakura is going for, yes that would mean Mbison but Akuma is a lot more iconic tbh

[@froid7]

Naw it’s either Luke or bison

[@deltotheking8174]

Nah akuma be better

[@alextpa]

I think Rayman has a high chance of being in the next game. Nintendo currently has a very good relationship with Ubisoft as they are making games together (Mario and Rabbids).

[@ImarTuba]

I almost put him on the list! I could definitely see him getting in too

[@king.2778]

tbh he’s lowkey accurate with the list besides shantae, paper mario, and spyro as much as id love them in the game. shantae isnt too recognizable, paper mario over other mario reps seems less likely, and spyro? i wish. everything else i completely agree with as it’d the the nail for “ultimate smash bros”

[@regen1016]

Also he's frozen in battlefield lol

[@fightfutures2432]

Rayman is my most wanted character

[@andimari9194]

I dont know bro. When the fake leak came out Japan was FURIOUS. They don’t like him

[@The00man]

Never let bro cook again

[@thescientition9165]

I agree, dude says “N” lol

[@paulnoell39]

Depending on the negotiations made for the 3rd party characters, they may not have to make new contracts. In racing games when they negotiate for cars with real life likeness, they buy rights for a number of years. If Sakurai got enough years, the work could already be done. Or, some contracts are done for a singular title. A remaster/re-release style may not need new contracts. For example, the NFS Hot Pursuit remaster by Criterion had all the old copyrighted music because it was the same title. Basically, its not as unlikely as people think.

[@EyeZee]

I’m still extremely surprised that they didn’t add monster hunter as a dlc with Rathalos being a boss/assist trophy and having it be perfect promotion for when rise came out as a switch exclusive. Looking back at the every new character added in ultimate, I never really had a fighter who I truely had a connection with, so yeah that’s all I really want

[@robofistsrevenge3288]

Both Sakurai and Capcom spokespeople have been _very_ open about how they want Monster Hunter to be represented by the monsters themselves, not the hunters. Similar to how Pikachu is added whenever Pokemon needs a rep for some crossover instead of Red or Cynthia or whatever.

[@dylansmith5206]

@@robofistsrevenge3288 Speaking of Capcom We need these Capcom Characters to show up in the next Smash Game Phoenix Wright Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil Morrigan From Darkstalkers Viewtiful Joe Arthur From Ghost And Goblins Amaterasu From Okami Frank West From Dead Rising Captain Commando Ect.....................................................

[@novasZK]

@@dylansmith5206 No Dante is a crime

[@lucaantinori4834]

I think the idea to built on top of Ultimate is not as easy as porting Mario Kart. You have completely forgotten about the fact that you need to renegotiate with every third party developer, and there are 11 companies that you must negotiate with. If it was Brawl which had only 2 third party companies involved I could see it happening, Smash 4 more than doubled that number (it has 5 companies) but outside of Square Enix I don't see much trouble, but Ultimate is a different beast, it's extremely difficult to repeat it because if only one company refuses, it's over, and three companies (Square Enix, Atlus and Disney) are extremely over protective with their IPs, problematic.

[@ImarTuba]

Yeah I definitely see that being a potential issue for a couple characters like Sora or Steve. I think realistically the better option would be to cut the roster down and create a new game, but that would take longer to develop. A deluxe version would be easier to develop, but like you said it would be more complicated because you need permission from every company again

[@lucaantinori4834]

@@ImarTuba Back in 2018 before Ultimate released, Sakurai tried to guess and said that, given the scope of Ultimate, we wouldn't get another smash game until at least 10 years from that moment. Keep in mind, this was WAY before Switch's lifespan got extended so he had no idea about how successful the system was going to be. Now Smash is a console seller so 10 years is obviously too much wait, but provided that Switch keeps selling until 2026 (in other words, coexisting with the successor for a couple of years), people would still be able to play Ultimate which makes waiting for Smash 6 A LOT EASIER.

[@MarshtompGames]

Konami meanwhile: You can't use any of Kojima's characters. So don't even try.

[@lucaantinori4834]

@@MarshtompGames Wait, what? Then how did Snake returned for Ultimate? I know that was the reason he was absent in Smash 4 but he somehow returned for Ultimate.

[@MarshtompGames]

@@lucaantinori4834 Sakurai had to go through a lot of hoops to get Snake in Ultimate.

[@toadboy4]

I think if we know Nintendo enough, we’ll likely get Alear from Fire Emblem Engage

[@dylansmith5206]

DON"T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE EVIL DEMONIC SATANIC SWORD FIGHTERS IN THE SATAN DAMNED GGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@superflameking03]

I'm sorry dude, but no way Dixie Kong & Slippy Toad would be DLC. These characters don't sell DLC. You forget that every Nintendo character in the DLC was promotional in some way.

[@kyled.parksesq7263]

Wdym

[@superflameking03]

@@kyled.parksesq7263 Every DLC Nintendo character in Smash Ultimate were not only there to promote Nintendo games, but to specifically do that. Byleth was a character specific to the then recent Fire Emblem: Three Houses, same with Min Min for Arms and Pyra/Mythra for Xenoblade 2. Dixie Kong and Slippy are not only characters who've been around for a while, but aren't big name main characters in any degree (the only exception is Dixie being the main protagonist for DKC3, but that was decades ago). Unless either of them were to get what I call the Pauline treatment, where she had a super grand return in Odyssey and since then has been everywhere, I simply don't see it happening. While both would be cool and fun to play as, they aren't big enough names for DLC, paid additional content. Maybe in a base game, but not DLC.

[@Native2Earth]

What I want for smash ultimate deluxe= - Buffs= King DDD - down special cancel before max KING K ROOL - sweet spot neutral special PIRAHNA PLANT - double input side special BOWSER - stronger blue fire at zero percent RIDLEY - super armor down special GANONDORF - charge up special range Lil Mac - side special resets after being hit Dr Mario - random poisoning pill (1/4) Yoshi - make side special shield break Donkey Kong - aerial side special spikes - Daisy - counter poison effect Dark Samus - 1.25 lighter/ 1.25 faster - Nerfs= Pikachu - up throw angle changed Kazuya - down special two try cancel Steve - minecart end lag animation 2x Joker - arsene drains faster after 100% Sonic - more up special end lag - Base Echo Birdo - Yoshi (melee: heavier less recovery) Dixie Kong - Diddy Kong (krool recovery) Octoling - Inkling (sprinkler down special) Dry Bowser - Bowser (lighter / >100 🔵🔥) Louie - Olimar (red rock pink white pikman) - Echo Pack Hector - Ike (.75 reach, 1.25 knock back ) Shadow - Sonic (joker neutral B) Ms PAC Man - PAC man (throws hydrant) Rex - Pyra & Mythra (shulk down special) Heroine - Hero (1/4th crit, 1.25% lighter ) - Base new characters Waluigi King Boo Rillaboom Bandana Dee Geno - DLC Pack Frogger (pre-purchase) Bentley Bear 2B Ray-Man Crash Bandicoot - DLC Pack 2 Dante Dr Robotonik Subzero Ryu Hayabusa Master Chief

[@davidhill8565]

I’d say that there would be 16 new fighters and 8 new stages in the base game, following by a DLC Booster Fighter Pass.

[@Quartzer.]

I think Donkey Kong Jr. would be a neat retro choice (he could represent the classic Donkey Kong Arcade games, DKJr Math, and maybe DK94

[@thejcpworld]

dixie kong would be the better choice

[@Doracake]

Isn't Donkey Kong Jr. removed from the current series canon? If you want him to return, you should ask Nintendo to make a new game that can properly re-introduce him in a new role first. At this point what matters is that the removed character isn't the most significant character through out the whole franchsie. Otherwise we can say the same thing to Wart and Stanley.

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking Of Donkey Kong Jr. Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6 That plus throw in these DK Reps DIxie Kong Cranky Kong Funky Kong The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny) Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games Ect..........................................................................

[@Doracake]

@@dylansmith5206 already say, the regular games should be used to explain the canon, not crossover. Crossover are usually noncanon so it'd definitely cause confusion. Besides we also had Super Mario Movie, wasnt that also a neat chance to reintroduce characters?

[@user-bl1ig9cn4z]

Worrying about canon in Smash makes 0 sense. Young Link...

[@thelatehours5668]

I would definitely love another Monster Hunter addition like an actual fighter and not a boss and map like you have the hunter who already has an expanded set of moves to use

[@christack10306]

YES!! I WOULD BE SO HAPPY!

[@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08]

We're at the point where we're making predictions for a possible port of smash ultimate And the worst part is that we're watching it lol

[@WatchDoggyDog]

this was a highly enjoyable watch, I think you're predictions are highly based. haha. I bet you get a good amount right too. would love to see the route 1 potential video...although if you're sane you want route 2! I think they should always take route 2, each time make it the new most epic videogame ever, and let the story mode be what gives each entry it's unique identity. they could even add less than 5 new characters to the base game each time, so long as we get dlc and a new bell and whistle here or there, along with that new story mode. new sub 🎉

[@totaldramajoseph146]

Ngl I think urbosa is likely We will most likely get another zelda rep and she fits well Also shantae is my pick for the most likely

[@luisreyes1963]

Now those are reasonable choices. 👍🏻

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Zelda Please Give me some new Zelda characters in Smash 6 that aren't just more Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Clones Plus please give me some Zelda Newcomers that aren't just more alternate versions of Link Or Zelda Give Me Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect.......................

[@KevinLam86]

Unless they change or add new game mechanics I don't see why a whole new game is needed. They just need to keep adding more characters.

[@Doracake]

Uh, Sakurai has said in his KZbin channel that they've reached the limit of game. If your point is true, the question should rather be why there are no new DLCs this year.

[@AlonzoTompkins]

More than likely a few new first/second party characters. Doubtful there would be new guests unless they were DLC.

[@davididealistmark2]

Your dlc roster is nearly perfect. But I would change one thing. I don't see Scorpion or any MK character getting in, I'd remove him and put Master Chief in his spot. He's not big in Japan, and can't end it with him, but is an icon that I think needs to be in Smash. As for the final slot, because of the resent remake. The highly requested character Geno should be that final fighter.

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

My personal base roster going off of your criteria would be Bandana Dee, Kamek, Excitebiker, Meowscarada (even tho it would be great to have N) and Rayman, a character more closely associated with Nintendo and its style of games. Crash is such a massive pick, I'd save him for DLC.

[@ApeOW]

Ultimate is kind of already a deluxed version of wii u

[@spenserbeckerszs]

I don’t know much about licensing and or the character approval process for those that are owned by 3rd party companies. However, I would imagine having that same game like Ultimate and just expanding the roster (maybe Sakurai even making a few more 3rd pary deals), is the cheaper and better way to go here. We have to remember that for a long while a balance needs to be kept between Sakurai & and the demand of the fan base. A new game all together just simply isn’t in the cards right now

[@Doracake]

Sakurai has said in his KZbin channel that they've reached the limit of game. So it's safe to say what they can do is start a new game with same size but different contents. And many people just need a new game to offer the chances for their dream characters and game series. Why do we have to keep the old game?

[@samosvanquisher5137]

For me personally, I would like to add more retro characters like Billy and Jimmy Lee from the Double Dragon series, Bill and Lance from the Contra series. Maybe also add Lara Croft from the Tomb Raider series as well. It would be nice to have at least one character from Killer Instinct.

[@frankcarter8789]

Tears of the kingdom link Ganon and Zelda would be crazy

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Link, Ganon, And Zelda Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ect..................................

[@umwha]

I wish you had expanded on what Pokémon N would use, and how it would play.

[@IHitTheWater]

As long as Joker comes back I'll be happy, but I also would complain about the Persona 3 and 4 protagonist getting added.

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Your Link Profile Profile Picture Speaking of Skull Kid Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect.................................. Also. Fuck Joker Coming Back! No one gave a Shit About Joker being in Smash before Ultimate was a thing (Since Joker is bland boring as shit character with Zero personality, wit, or charm)!! And no one was begging for Sakurai to add Joker in Smash Before Ultimate was a thing!

[@eggabacon]

Oh cool, nice to know the moment I've finally gotten a Nintendo Switch OLED, and am really getting interested in Smash Ultimate it might be replaced. Fun. Edit: I just hope that if they do make a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and put it on a new console that Smash Ultimate maintains a playerbase and/or competitive scene for people who don't want to buy a Switch Pro

[@KingM119]

Well assuming it actually is just a deluxe ver. Then It will pretty much just be the same game with dlc And if it's just a "Switch Pro"...that's also implying that it's just a more powerful version of the switch that's already available. So you honestly have nothing to worry about

[@drew8235]

I would actually love to see a much more trimmed down Smash, assuming we do get a future entry. 20-30 fighters, no third-party fighters, no echoes, a balance of fighters from each series, meaning not having half the roster be Fire Emblem. But, I think we do need to entertain the idea that we may never get another Smash game, and that would be fine. Ultimate is a great one to end on.

[@Fonz128]

Takamuru Ryu hayabusa Bill from Contra Conker The Ashen One from Dark Souls

[@toadboy4]

I believe Mortal Kombat is banned in Japan so that’s likely why it hasn’t even been considered

[@superplushtiman7ti075]

Correct

[@RemiliasHusband]

Not really banned, it's just not sold over there due to all the restrictions on CERO's part. If NetherRealm really wanted to sell it they'd have to tone down the violence a lot all for an audience that would rather play SF or Tekken. So of course they don't even want to bother with that. But yeah, Scorpion is still a stupid request despite how cool it may be.

[@toadboy4]

@@RemiliasHusband and Sub-Zero could be a perfect echo, if they gave him different specials

[@makangwei]

You guys forgot who the main character in mortal kombat has always been in every story mode. If a mortal Kombat character gets added, it will most likely be Liu Kang.

[@toadboy4]

@@makangwei oh yeah, maybe, but I think Scorpion is more iconic and probably has more to work with

[@wampty8298]

I love your editing style!

[@cashbag]

It's gonna be 15 fire emblem characters

[@luisreyes1963]

And it will be if the crazies don't stop harassing Sakurai-san for Geno, Waluigi or Bandana Waddle Dee. 😤

[@koboldwizard]

I want to see raiden from metal gear get in the next game, the only metal gear rep is snake and if another rep was to appear everyone would freak, and nobody is a better choice than raiden

[@X2011racer]

The only tricky part would be to form a moveset that doesn't steal a single move from Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale...

[@QuickQuackReviews]

I predict Geno, Rayman, Skull Kid, Armarouge with Ceruledge echo, Tails and Shadow (who is a Sonic echo), Isaac from Golden Sun and Akira from Astral Chain.

[@calibvr]

predict? lmao those assumptions arent remotely accurate

[@Doracake]

who is tails?

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Skull Kid Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect..................................

[@liampena1340]

“Another nintendo character I’m suprised we haven’t got yet” Oh it’s toad! “Dixie!”

[@TheNelsonShowRebooted]

I think they would also add cuphead since the creators wanted him in smash, but they had to wait for the creator to improve him as a fighter (I can’t believe that they gave him the mii treatment 😭)

[@Doracake]

I like him but Nintendo has the freedom to invite a specific 3rd party guest or not.

[@donkeykong6426]

time was the reason and the character he wanted is what we got

[@Doracake]

@@donkeykong6426 he wants? who?

[@donkeykong6426]

@@Doracake Byleth

[@Doracake]

@@donkeykong6426 I ask who wants, in general it should be Nintendo CEOs.

[@jeremiahj4497]

thus is the most goated list i’ve ever seen

[@silveytd625]

Base: Bandana Dee, Waluigi, ExciteBiker, Meowscarada, Crash DLC1: Eggman, Monster Hunter, ?, Rayman, Shantae DLC2: Dante, Hayabusa, A Tales rep, Noah or Mio, Doomslayer

[@Lagw1020]

Hot take... there won't be a story mode, but there will be an expansion for World of Light with new spirits and bosses (like the return of Porky, Rayquaza, and Duon... and maybe a secret Tabuu fight? 👀). But there will be a Target Smash :0 just use one background and a set of assets that could be used for all Target stages. I could imagine DLC taking slightly longer because of it, but totally possible. Same time to develop a story mode for them.

[@DokasWasTaken]

I cried happily during the master chief part

[@TheSmashWaffle]

8:58 That aged horribly Also, given that Gen 9 would likely be at least in its late stage by 2025, I think a rep from it is possible.

[@Daviskd94]

I don't agree with the idea that the next game would be a "Deluxe". The reason they did a lot of these was because of the commercial failure of the Wii U. They ported these games as "Deluxe" to the Switch so that those games could reach a wider audience with the success of the Switch. If they were going to do that for any game, it would have been Smash 4 being the Deluxe as it ports to the Switch. The Switch already has a lot of sales, and a lot of people owning Smash Ultimate, so there's no need. They typically build off of the previous Smash game when developing the next game anyways. Brawl was built of of Melee, Smash 4 was built off of Brawl, and Ultimate was built off of Smash 4.

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Smash 4 Please Oh Please Add in The Smash 4 for 3DS Single Player Mode that should have been included in Smash 4 For Wii U and Ultimate Please Give me Smash Run for the love of Cinder

[@javierejefferson6693]

Come on with the Nintendo characters man we already have enough fire emblem and Nintendo characters and Pokemon too

[@toadboy4]

It’s a lot easier for Nintendo to implement their own characters versus having to get the license to use another character

[@user-vc9ws2tf3v]

Remember when smash use to be a nintendo crossover party game

[@DavidLuvsBread]

This is what I would predict for a smash 6 : 10 new characters being Terrarian, Raymman, Waddle dee, Tails, Zoroark, King boo, Magolor, Cranky Kong, Dixie kong, and Crazy dave Wave 1 would be :Geno, Slippy, Spyro, Roblox Noob, and Undyne Wave 2 would be :Waluigi, Phoenix right, Chorus kids, Shadow, and Crash

[@Doracake]

What series is tails? Also I think Waluigi would just be in base game. Mario series already existed in Smash so we don't need more DLCs to expand it, which would offend Mario fans.

[@DavidLuvsBread]

@@Doracake sonic

[@Doracake]

@@DavidLuvsBread oh so you mean sonic swap a new rep?

[@DavidLuvsBread]

@@Doracake wdym

[@DavidLuvsBread]

@@Doracake also DLC has to be hype, no one will buy non hype dlc Byleth, min min, hero, and kayuza in question :

[@lunatic0verlord10]

15:19 If you ask any Star Fox fan, they're more likely to say "get this guy off me".

[@klawthechocobo158]

Ngl.. a lot of these choices feel..too safe. I do find it hilarious that out of all the times that Sakurai has said he was done, we didn’t believe him. Now that he kinda soft confirmed a game we suddenly believe him now? Weird. So if we’re going to believe Sakurai..wouldn’t make sense to have a smaller roster? He even said a number of times getting the rights to some of those characters would be hard and we SHOULD expect a smaller roster. Interesting choices for DLC but that base roster spot..needs help

[@soulrebellion]

I also really would love to see Impa, based on her Age of Calamity move set. She is a popular character in that game, and Zelda is LONG overdue for a newcomer and Impa is the only solid option.

[@NetherKingVulcannus]

The current Zelda reps themselves have a lot of problems, the links are just copy pasted with *slightly* different attributes, ganon is a slower captain falcon clone, sheik and Zelda are fine the way they are tho.

[@soulrebellion]

@@NetherKingVulcannus not disagreeing there. However, am pretty sure Ganondorf will be restyled after TOTK next Smash. There's no reason not to. I'd like Link to receive those two handed sword Smash attacks too, and agree with all other changes proposed to Young and Toon Link, however ngl I could do without them and Sheik, especially if it means room for newcomers. Impa being the front runner here. Zelda restyled after TOTK would be great too. In general, remix the Triforce duo and remix Sheik into Impa, then maybe consider semi clones as Young / Toon Link. Pig Ganon is also a cool idea.

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking Of Impa Give me these Zelda Character's in Smash 6 (That aren't Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Rip Offs) Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha, Urbosa Ect.......................................

[@I3endoubles]

Overall this seems fine, but I think Octoling as a second Splatoon rep is extremely likely. Splatoon has 3x the sales of Star Fox and that’s all within the past decade vs 30+ for Fox and crew. Even in the cut the roster in half scenario a Splatoon newcomer seems likely to appear just to represent its popularity. There’s also a lot of people who have just been playing as Octolings since October Expansion came out so having both choice represented would be welcome.

[@SsjkidsSaveCosmo08]

If we're lucky we'll get a few echo fighters or something 💀

[@teeslifeandfitness9151]

I would like to see Jin Kazama in Smash with new music and spirits. If Sephiroth can get in with Cloud, so can Jin.

[@Akrenix]

I feel like they could probably make a new game with Ultimate's roster (and some newcomers of course)

[@slicew1833]

With the success of elden ring and the fact bandai namco was involved (also it has a Japanese developmrnt team) so I reckon tarnished has a pretty good chance

[@felldoh9271]

Am thinking the same thing.

[@BloodnightStudios]

Waluigi, Shadow, and Dr Eggman please

[@lestatcanada]

Look the reason why I think a new game is more likely in order for a deluxe game to make sense the next console can not be backwards compatible but people want backwards compatibility but If the next switch was backwards compatible then ultimate deluxe would be fighting against ultimate The different the deluxe games on the switch were in the wii u witch…you can’t play on the switch so unless you want Nintendo to make it so you can’t play any switch games on the switch 2 then…..I feel smash 6 is more likely then ultimate deluxe

[@TurkeyFaceX]

The Deluxe Wii U ports made sense on the Switch. Most gamers didn't have a Wii U and you couldn't fit a disc drive on the Switch so backwards compatibility wasn't an option. Why would they make Deluxe ports of Switch games on the successor? If it has backwards compatibility having a port would be redundant, and having a small card as the Switch's physical game size would be easy to put on the next device. Even if it doesn't have backwards compatibility (which wouldn't make much sense), the Switch is currently the 3rd best selling platform of all time and many people already played Smash Ultimate. With a system seller like the Smash Bros. franchise wouldn't they want to make a new game to entice a larger audience? Making a port would be a turn off for many people that already played it on the Switch even with a few new bells and whistles.

[@KDVW0912]

Next Smash DLC List(if there will be for the next game)- Wave 1: Blinky/Inky/Pinky/Clyde-Pacman (they can be like a double fighter like Duck Hunt or Ice Climbers except its 4) Geno And Mallow-Super Mario RPG(seperate fighters) Blaze the Cat:Sonic the Hedgehog Mephiles:Sonic the Hedgehog Rex:Xenoblade Chronicles Ms. Pac Man: Pac Man Wave 2: Mew:Pokemon Nightmare:Kirby Kamek: Yoshi New Characters for base game: Waluigi -S-Tier -What we wanted -Still needs a game Dixie Kong -A-Tier -One of the wanted Echo Fighters -Diddy's Partner in crime Skull Kid: -S-Tier -I haven't played Majoras Mask but he's cool -Very creepy HOOO👻 Meta-Ridley -B-Tier -Echo For Ridley -We have enough Samus' Blood Falcon -S-Tier -Just another Echo Fighter but for Cap. Falcon -Now someone will show their Moves Tails -S-Tier -I wanted him in. -Best friend for a hedgehog but not in real life Shadow- -S-Tier again -Echo for Sonic -Very Edgy -Sonic but 𝙂 𝙐 N Zeraora: -S-Tier -Favorite Pokemon of mine -I'M NOT A FURRY!

[@danpatrickth2759]

I'll prefer the ultimate deluxe because I didn't have any money to get the dlc content. This is a win for me.

[@noxyu2806]

For a new character, just look at the first 12 characters, they all have more than one characters representing their franchise now. Except ONE chatacter, and thats Captain Falcon. So I would add Black Shadow to the roster.

[@justfitz08]

Whatever direction they go, if they dont improve the 1v1 netcode, they can keep that mf'er.

[@MManiaZone]

I will say that, I think it feels a bit off to have the "future Pokemon Game Slot", but not one for Fire Emblem, I feel.

[@fancyfrosty9879]

7:20 I wouldn't say dark pit is a villain considering He isn't a villain

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking Of Pit Please Oh Please Put in A Kid Icarus Character that isn't just another evil Satanic Demonic Pit Clone Give me Hades Medusa Viridi Phosphora Magnus Eggplant Wizard Ect......................................

[@trainian71121AB]

I honestly dont think that Enix would allow for 4 of their characters to be on the free base roster without having atleast 2 of their characters in the each DLC pack

[@Lagw1020]

Oh god the DLC picks are attrocious 💀 Here are my ideas (assuming they can change the Mii Costumes and Assist Trophies) Newcomers: -Bandana Waddle Dee (popular) -Isaac (retro) -Dr. Eggman (new villain) -Chun-Li (#1 gaming woman) -Dixie Kong (half echo/easy to make) -Impa (Legend of Zelda rep) Echo Fighters: -Shadow -Alph Bonus DLC: -Geno (final "popular" character to kick off DLC) DLC: -Meowscarada/Gengar (obligatory mid pick) -Monster Hunter (Japan) -Doom Guy (Western) -Lloyd Irving (new Namco rep) -Crash Bandicoot (overall popularity) - Two Bonus challengers to round the roster to 100 character (you fill in the blanks :) I personally would love Bomberman and Shovel Knight) Other top runners: -Chorus Kids (unused files in WiiU/3DS) -Bomberman (although while I'd love to play as him, his current role fits him) -Takamaru (retro, but I think Isaac fits better as a fighter) -Shovel Knight (would've been an awesome indie rep, but I doubt he'll get in over getting a deluxe mii costume) -Rayman (I don't think his moveset could have the same flare as the other picks) -Pheonix Wright (I get the appeal... but bro has zero moveset potential, and Capcom vs Marvel doesn't count 💀) -Porky Minch (I would love him in Smash as another villain, but not as iconic as Dr. Eggman, and he could still fit in as a new boss) -Travis and Dante (don't know a lot about those guys but I hear about em often) -Arle Nadja or Reimu (same as the above, but Japanese edition) -Waluigi (popular... but not the biggest fan personally) -Skull Kid (popular and checks the villain mark, but I think Impa made a bigger mark for the series as a whole) -2B (dunno anything about em but they seem chill) -Master Chief (don't see the appeal, I think Doom Guy fits better) -Zero (another great pick, decent moveset potential, and further represents MegaMan)

[@eboi255]

Personally my list would have said: Base Game: Bandana Dee, Waluigi, Bomberman, Zygarde, Crash Bandicoot DLC 1: Shantae, Scorpion/SubZero, Ratchet & Clank, Agumon, Master Chief DLC 2: Chun-Li, Kratos, Spyro, 2B, Doom Man And then update Ganondorf, Sonic and Inkling

[@MarXCosmicAmbition_760]

I hope Geno and mallow will be in deluxe 1 Geno and mallow 2 tails and eggman 3 Bandana dee

[@mimikyuliker946]

I’d 1000% buy the game just for N. I think it would be cool if he himself fought and used his many Pokémon as moves, reflecting his nature as an unorthodox Pokémon trainer

[@joshspears3951]

Your roaster pick is pretty mid

[@HyperSuck771]

Dante and Doom Guy are weeping

[@djneely2999]

They focused on a lot of RPG characters in ultimate, so I hope they focus on some more iconic characters this time around. Sans made it in as a costume so it would be a crime if not a single undertale character actually made it in. Theres so many options. I just hope every other character isn’t an “anime swordsman” as the community likes to call it

[@travtagonist3]

Honestly I don’t even think we need another game. Just keep updating Ultimate, add new characters, and port the game for the inevitable new generation console.

[@justbrowsing2395]

It was confirmed that the next console will have access to your switch library of games, so a deluxe would not make sense in any shape or form. the only reason all of these wii u deluxe versions exist is because of how disastrous the wii u was as a console for Nintendo. Why try to sell everyone a game they all have access to when you can just sell more dlc for said game, it's that simple. and if they do make a brand new smash for next gen then I feel the roster size would simply shrink back down to the size of smash 4's roster excluding new characters. That would be about 58+? 66 with new characters. This seems like a lot remaining, but it really isn't considering all the stages, music, and more that will most likely be cut out of the game. I feel the best thing for smash would be to shrink down each series to its core characters, so like the mario bros series would include: the bros - mario and luigi. who go to stop bowser to save princess peach. there, that is the mario series. of course yoshi and wario would stay too as they are classed as being apart of their own series. If you did this with every series you would have 45 character (not counting third party). plenty of wiggle room to throw back in characters like daisy, rosalina, and some others while having a lot of room to add new characters.

[@ChaosmasterZ13]

I think Geno should definitely be in the next game but Crash Bandicoot is an absolute must!!

[@hyliannerd4541]

I can see Noah from Xenoblade join as well as Ryu Hayabusa.

[@DokasWasTaken]

I would personally love a retro character like dig dug or mappy

[@supermariocal8660]

I think that characters that should be added are rayman, cuphead, and maybe doom guy

[@CristianRodriguez-ds5kj]

MK is a good thought but I think due to violence of it they’d skip out on it and do a game like guilty gear to pull third party fighting characters form

[@R0TEK]

I hope I see Crash and Masterchief on this list. Edit: W list

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

Don't get your hopes up if he didn't in super smash bros ultimate he won't be in the next smash bros game

[@ddsjgvk]

also needs spyro in that

[@dylansmith5206]

@@ddsjgvk Speaking of Spyro And Crash Give me these guys Rayman Lara Croft From Tomb Raider Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil Klonoa Abe From Oddworld The Pyramid Head From Silent Hill 2 Gex The Gecko That plus bring back Snake and Kazuya To where we can finally have a Proper version of Playstation All Stars

[@What.I.said.was.]

What’s crazy is that smash can still makes money to this day with just cosmetics alone! Look and Xenoverse 2, MK8 and Shinobi Strikers, those games are alive after around 6 plus years of support. Smash is undoubtedly one of the best fighting game around, but I also get why they won’t.

[@jaynovagalaxy12]

2B for Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe!

[@luisreyes1963]

Not happening. 🔞

[@austinb2177]

Tbh if you really want to push a Gen 5 Pokemon rep, just do Zoroark.

[@solarfinch9111]

I would personally replace Slippy with Jonsey from fortnite just because of how iconic fortnite is in gaming as a whole

[@Grapelordz]

What about the Rabbids? I think they’d be absolutely hilarious to add to the game

[@Eek132]

Not just rabbids but also RAYMAN!!!

[@donnae1899]

Non Video Game Characters Should Be James Bond and Arkham/Lego Batman

[@RemiliasHusband]

It's pretty clear that this roster is literally just western pandering being pased as predictions. Most of the characters you listed are only really requested in the West instead of Japan, the country where Nintendo comes from. Where is the obvious Tales rep? Where is the imminent second Splatoon rep? Why MK a franchise that is LITERALLY NOT SOLD in Japan instead of you know, Soulcalibur or Guilty Gear? Why Shantae as the indie pick instead of Quote who literally started the indie boom or Reimu who has an entire convention dedicated to her franchise out of sheer popularity? Why two Activision reps when Nintendo would most likely not want to have anything to do with them due to all the drama? And why Master Chief a character who has never had a game on Nintendo and is also unheard of in Japan in such an important place as the final slot? Before you bring in the "but Microsoft and Nintendo are such buddy buddies!!" argument, let me remind you that they got Banjo and Steve from them as actual fighters (and all the Bethesda mii costumes since they were bought) and among them Chief was nowhere to be seen. If there's another rule besides being from a videogame, then having at least one actual appearance on Nintendo systems before being considered should be it (and no, Fortnite skins don't count). That said, I'm not a fan of the idea of porting the same game to the new console and have people pay $60 again for it + some new content. This is not a MK8 situation in which the console it was originally sold on was a failure and as such not a lot of people got to experience it, so they just ported it to save themselves the need of making another game and years later they feel the need to make DLC for it due to how good it was still selling. SSBU on the other hand sold over 30 million copies, and of those 30 million costumers I don't think a lot would be willing to pay again for the same game. I just want the series to go on a new direction for once, they already released their "ultimate" game so do what other FG franchises have done and reboot it all.

[@luisreyes1963]

Now THAT'S the most intelligent response to the subject in the Comments section for this video! Well met! 🏆

[@X2011racer]

Shantae existed before Quote or Reimu, so one could argue that she's the grandmother of all Indies.

[@RemiliasHusband]

@@X2011racer Lmao nope. The first Touhou game was released in 1997, 5 years before Shantae. And while Shantae predates Cave Story by 2 years, you can argue that Cave Story left a bigger impact on the industry as a whole unlike Shantae who remained obscure for many years. Objectively speaking Shantae has left minimum impact on the industry compared to the aforementioned franchises, it's just that she has a way more vocal fanbase clamoring for her inclusion. Which is why I believe she should not be included before other more important indies.

[@Clbull118]

My ideal Smash Ultimate Deluxe additions would be Geno, Waluigi, Shantae, Shovel Knight, Phosphora, Riku and Toon Zelda/Tetra.

[@luisreyes1963]

Good idea, just dump Geno, Waluigi & Toon Zelda/Tetra. 🗑️

[@Doracake]

While I don't think the current game can be expanded, the problem is Smash Ultimate is already oversaturated with Mario characters so it cannot get more. A new Smash would rather be a better chance to insert new Mario additons like Waluigi and Birdo when the old ones are cut.

[@BloodnightStudios]

Waluigi, Dr Eggman, Master Chief, Goku, and Shadow with guns.

[@eastonmurdock04]

I this might be a bit of a stretch, but i want leon Kenedy for Smash Bros

[@TamakiKurusu7422]

Nintendo is doing a awesome job and hopefully Sora Cloud Sephiroth and Joker come back.

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

I can definitely see Cloud Sephiroth and Joker coming back Nintendo and Sakurai will probably have to go through the Disney stuff again to bring Sora back

[@TamakiKurusu7422]

I agree with you i really do hope they could work it out with disney

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

@@TamakiKurusu7422 I'm not really a Sora fan his moveset is kinda boring in my opinion

[@TamakiKurusu7422]

I understand i respect your opinion

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

@@TamakiKurusu7422 thanks

[@manny2530]

dlc pack number 2 WAS A HARD MISS NEVER RATE AGAIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@hakirayleigh]

I believe Crash is more dlc than Spyro. Besides we obviosly we'll get characters from Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and Xenoblade at this point. Monolith Soft is the best Nintento studio right now.

[@Nintendo26.]

Yes i will a ultimate Deluxe Version i will all Characters with More More More Characters

[@LegendofHalo]

I'm surprised that people sleep on 2B. She is popular choice in both east and west. Nier Automada is on Switch. Her design can be tweaked like Pyra and Mythra.

[@mitchellbuffalo985]

There’s only one thing I request and that’s a Mandela effect Pikachu skin… and Giovanni…

[@mitchellbuffalo985]

One more thing I imagine classic sonic would be the new sonic character if there was one

[@oi6915]

Shrek and Goku since they absolutely won the ballot

[@dev_the_gamer593]

I'd replace shantae with shovel knight, I feel like he is just a much more iconic rep for indie games.

[@Lagw1020]

Nahh at this point, I think Shantae (or Undertale) are more iconic BUT I'd still give it to Shovel Knight as the indie rep, because I feel Sakurai is more inclined to add them since they were very popular back in the day (which is why I assume he made it in as an assist)

[@courage1363]

We wont get a Port version of Ultimate because how the Ultimate is a awesome job on the game and it sold like hotcakes so i dont see a port version of Smash Bros Ultimate to happen regardless.

[@tonythejhit7104]

add more skins add a story mode add more final smashes like 3 u can unlock them

[@robertkenny1201]

Nemesis from Resident Evil.

[@luisreyes1963]

Better than Chun-Li, Dr. Eggman or Freddy Fazbear. 😤

[@theclaudfather6436]

I don’t think Slippy gets in over Krystal or one of Wolf’s companions. I could see Leon Powalski being a cool addition or even Panther Caroso.

[@GND_Aaron]

If smash 6 will add fortnite Jonesy, ninjala Van or mortal kombat scorpion I'll be fine

[@ddsjgvk]

A lot of people would hate me on this but if they added Dixie I wanted her to be parted up with Kiddy like ice climbers. The move set is like already there. More so if it was just her by herself. Like sje could toss him around do the thing where shes rolls around on him like a ball. Them you have all the characters from DKC

[@felldoh9271]

That’s exactly what I am thinking; her and Diddy are perfect for a future Smash reboot afterwards. Her for Ultimate Deluxe would be a waste.

[@Doracake]

@@felldoh9271 Uh, at this point we already know that different characters require different movesets, which means they factually use multiple amount of budgets, like Pokemon Trainer Team and Samus. Ice Climbers worked because Popo and Nana actually don't have difference. But in this case, Samus with and without armors are actually different. So the latter costs more budget.

[@dylansmith5206]

Speaking of Dixie Please Give her a unique moveset instead of making her a worthless Diddy Clone That plus Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6 That plus throw in these DK Reps Cranky Kong Funky Kong The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny) Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games Ect.........................................................................

[@kaiserxblue]

Interesting list and and educated guesses so I say you have reached out an interesting video here. a few things that I disagree on but who knows I could be wrong. Ballon fighter? Nah man, he's already represented in a "sort of form" and that's Villager from Animal Crossing, so I highly doubt they'll add ballon fighter there. I mean if you wanted to add a classic NES or SNES characer there is a bunch like Lolo, Mach Rider, Wizards & Warriors,Exicete Bike etc the list goes on and on. All I'm saying is that there are more classic retro Ips that a re way better that Nintendo can pull to represent, also don't forget that in a way Smash Bros "revives" those forgotten franchises by providing brand awareness. Like Kid Icarus, Fire Emblem Rob game. ???? You said a new IP from Nintendo, I would suggest that IF and I'm saying IF....they can replace Wii Fit Trainer for the Ring fit trainer....different moveset, more popular thatn Wii fit ,,,, just throwing it in case Nintendo does not bring a new IP for the new console by the time they make another smash bros. About Pokemon I doubt Sakurai wants to put another "pokemon trainer" like, that's 3 more pokemon due to the headache that is to baiscally create each of them a new moveset and inter change them, not saying it's not possible just saying that instead most likely be a new pokemon for their latest game OR could also be a requested pokemon from older generations, like for example Evee, Blaziken, etc. Scorpion Yeah, they could add him or any other MK character, but they could also bring out another fighter representative from a previous Nintendo fighting game and that's Killer Instinct, they already had Banjo so might as well add another rare character is Microsoft allows it.We had banjo and Steve so I see no reason why not include a fighter like Fulgore, Orchid, Jago...Microsoft could benefit from it a lot and Nintendo stays classy with rare. Dixie Kong Well, TBH she looks like more of an echo for Diddy Kong but who knows what can they add to the character. Street fighter Like you said it can be any and most of us believe that is should be Chun li if we ever get another SF rep. I mean she is iconic so let thatt sink in. Slippy That's a waste of a character honestly. I would rather add another Nintendo villain like Medusa or Hades from Kid icarus than another pilot for the StarFox team, besides we already got 3 of them with similar fighting style so might as well. Spyro Why? if we are getting Crash, then there really is no need for Spyro the dragon, that's as closest as it gets from Sony's IP, I have nothing against Spyro but if we are having Crash then we pretty much had our fair share of Playstation characters. Paper Mario Again, why? We already got Mario and even a Dr. Mario in case they decide to Smash Bros ultimate Deluxe edition. I sy we already got lots of Mario reps but that's me.