What will the Valley look like in 2040?

[@VulcanLogic]

It really depends. If Phoenix can embrace mixed use zoning (like you see in New York or Paris, France where there are shops at street level and apartments above), and do infill new development on the ruins of those dead malls, you can add a lot units where traffic considerations were already made (those malls used to have a lot of traffic), and the stores that are right down stairs means you don't need to drive to do literally everything. You just run downstairs and get groceries and household goods, or go to a restaurant, or see a movie. That solves for traffic, housing supply, and tax base (these tend to be great money makers for municipal tax revenue). You also need to ban the growing of alfalfa in your state. You literally use more water on cow food than you do in all the homes and apartments in the entire state. Water problem solved.

[@pf2611]

unfortunately, this will never happen and is why i do not understand (other than cost of living) why so many people are moving to AZ? this place is pretty overhyped and extremely dead for anyone under the age of 30

[@terriec808]

None of that is even rational this is a desert in Arizona it's a desert Paris is not a desert it doesn't matter how low the apartments are how you build it's about the population and the demand for water and the fact that the politicians have not refurbished replenish the resources in the groundwater the water tables are low it's a disaster but it's a desert and that's how it goes when you got 30,000 million people living on top of aquifer that is going dry

[@davidkruse4030]

@@pf261120 years ago it was a great place to buy property. Hell even the housing collapse of 2007 was a great time to buy. It’s too expensive and oppressively hot

[@garcjr]

Time to admit Phoenix is Los Angeles and Tucson is San Bernardino.

[@1just4laughs]

Except the heat is absolutely unbearable And they say by 2060 it will be to hot for people to live there

[@bettermetal8306]

@@1just4laughswho is “they”

[@geodavras]

@@bettermetal8306the dems that can’t even tell you what a woman is

[@RichardBonillas-lc2uk]

​@davidbelanger2681 yes agreed! Tucson is only 54 miles away from border and Tucson is not same as San Berio but same as San Degio yes

[@susandean5622]

It was 106 in San Bernardino today.

[@siktaho83]

Doubtful AZ will sustain life by 2040 if temperatures continue to climb

[@jrortega5062]

We need a bigger water project than

[@tkane3769]

Exactly

[@SigFigNewton]

Good progress being made now.

[@SigFigNewton]

With regards to the most egregious water waste such as grass

[@joannepackus5736]

I thought the govenor passed a new law a few months back that states there could be no new developments unless they could find the water to support all those new homes. What happened to that? Why was this question not asked during this interview? How long has it been since we have seen much in the way of measurable rain and how many days in a row did we see over 110 degree temperatures. The city could become a ghost town if there is not reasonable planning that involves where the water going to come from.

[@MegaMeco2]

dosent matter what the governor passes , Devolpers will cheat and bribe their way through, they will buy water rights on the other side of the planet and say they won’t use our water when they will use all of it .

[@Xenon-4300]

That is only for new development in the Hassayampa Sub-basin, an area that is part of Buckeye west of the White Tank mountains.

[@terriec808]

I hope they bring their own WATER

[@SigFigNewton]

Like you surely did

[@terriec808]

@@SigFigNewton didn't have to worry about it because the population wasnt overwhelming resources and greedy politics hadnt got ahold yet

[@terriec808]

@@SigFigNewton by the way... My great great grandmother was one of the first teachers to teach at the Arizona Territorial Normal School in 1886. So I think my family ties to this desert run deep enough to have an opinion. There are way to many people here

[@SigFigNewton]

@@terriec808 ah, so your family likely took part in the forced removal of the people who had been there for many centuries

[@SigFigNewton]

@@terriec808 interesting anti democracy take on things tho. New arrivals to places shouldn’t get votes….

[@Lildizzle420]

this city isn't prepared for any of that, not enough rail lines. actually no places in the USA is prepared for population growth (100 million by 2050) americans won't understand how we have slums and traffic jams for hours. (blame NIMBYs)

[@eckankar7756]

No abortions, people having babies they can't afford and don't want, teachers not getting into the career due to low pay, climate change, lack of water. I think nature is about to strike back with a huge change in our overpopulation.

[@eckankar7756]

I remember when MetroCenter was so popular and out in the middle of nowhere. Had to drive through miles of desert to get to MetroCenter. We thought it was crazy to build such a large mall out in the desert, now it's abandoned and hidden by overgrowth of the valley. Where will all this growth get it's water?

[@TacoJ1LL]

Those were the days..

[@juliepiemonte1281]

It's the Meth Mall now.

[@Nina-fp3jv]

New Ghost towns coming soon.

[@wilowb01]

Aks the city about how they allow the water aquifers to be raided by foreign companies for their foreign crops and they're not even really paying for it. They ow the people Arizona billions for this, yet for some frikn reason Arizona is allowing this and telling residents they don't get any water. Look it up!!

[@longiusaescius2537]

@MeLin W. Yeah

[@CallingAllMadMen]

Damn Saudis!

[@marsrover0]

We need water

[@ihavethedocuments2580]

20 years? 🤣 We do not have 5

[@mattbernabe]

We need a bigger and better water project. They need to look in to water Mexico City is doing. Collecting all the water from the rain and producing it into clean and drinkable water. We also need a better transportation system. I've been saying that the city should have been planning on a subway system 40 years ago. Adding extra lanes to the I-10 near the Broadway curve is something, but in 10 years, it'll go back to the way it's been. Too many people are moving in. We need a better transportation system. We may have the light rail, but we barely got that 15 years ago. It's still a limited amount of destinations it can go. The city really screwed on not planning ahead.

[@indytherottweiler9002]

I think we will see a lot of people getting out of here. Because of the rental problems, pay isn't enough, we can't raise our children and eat.

[@HighCrimesMisdemeanors]

And the amount of people moving to PHX has slowed dramatically, and will continue to slow. Historically, you will see a percentage of those people move out of AZ due to the heat, lack of being able to enjoy outdoors for months of the year etc.

[@Donism100]

This is irresponsible. Colorado river basin is drying out and y'all are pushing for growth. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@SigFigNewton]

Maybe this will be the first time I witness a real estate collapse driven by population inflow

[@terriec808]

Exactly

[@dumbdumb572]

Yeah it's almost like people keep moving there or something.

[@koreyb99]

Absolutely not drying out. Spend 30 seconds and look at historical levels.

[@terriec808]

@@koreyb99 yeah.... I've been down that rabbit hole of lies and corruption called the 'Arizona department of water resources'.. I have at least a hundred flash drives loaded with what I've found over a the last 3 years... I'd say to you, don't believe anything you haven't researched yourself. Arid deserts are arid deserts because the water isn't abundant here.. It's not rocket science. We cannot sustain this growth it's a fricken DESERT!

[@wiredwebmaster]

(0:55min mark) - "Look into the odd-shaped crystal ball"... lmao

[@SigFigNewton]

Depends on whether they let themselves run out of water

[@lanesuzza]

Imagine the commute from Buckeye to downtown on the I-10 after another 1.5 million people move here! Good grief!

[@joannepackus5736]

And they will be drinking what water? Reckless growth!!!

[@robh87]

If yall only knew what 2040 has in store for us. The Phoenix is coming.

[@umberour]

What ya mean

[@JBR7655]

What about water?

[@SigFigNewton]

This was a housing market prop video. Hush about water.

[@paulsmith1411]

Destroy more nature making it hotter and less Water

[@starman1294]

MORE INFILL! STOP BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES

[@eggballo4490]

We need to stop building all of this car-centric sprawl, in fact, we need to get rid of car-centric sprawl.

[@mgagliardi2011]

I loved growing up in Phoenix in the 80's as a teenager. It's really sad what that area has become. To me anyway. We used to access open desert all around us 🌵🦎🐍🐢🦅

[@timward3116]

So glad we have an unlimited amount of water and that transplants won't take all the jobs coming to Phoenix. Also, its nice that home prices are starting to drop. Maybe one day, a normal working-class person will be able to buy a little condo and not have to share it with three other people to pay the mortgage.

[@Michael-sc8ef]

Past year been doing nothing but trying to help and conserve water. And educate the people in my neighborhood to not water their grass and find better alternatives. I give up on that now after seeing this. The news must have been lying to me when they said we all needed to do our part. Guess it’s time to fill back up the pool again. Considering we have enough water for another million people why even save water.

[@eckankar7756]

If my neighbor started in on me about my lawn I'd soon have one less neighbor.

[@Michael-sc8ef]

@@eckankar7756 I see what you meant should probably edit that though. Not proper English but good one made me laugh. I apologize if me being friends with my neighbors and neighborhood for 15 years would make you feel this way. And us working together to better our community and state would make you get mad. And would make you angry enough at your neighbors if they did the same to make them want to leave.

[@harleyv1969]

We keep pretending

[@RichV20]

Just like many CBD and downtown core's have had a resident revival in the past 10 years, so will teh Northheast most likely be 2040. Just like those kids that grew up in the suburbs and wanted to get out. You're going to have an entire generation of kids stuck in their houses during the summer, as adults will want to enjoy the verdant greens, rain, fresh lakes, snow and warm summers up North.

[@1987CRER]

Nuclear powered desalination plants pumping water in from the Gulf of California are the only way we're going to be able to sustain this without completely depleting the Colorado River Valley. Otherwise you're gonna see water prices inflate to the point where it discourages people from staying.

[@TheRealBirdmann]

It’s going to be 130° in Phoenix in 2040

[@guyinthechat9533]

Please stop moving here especially if you are from California. It’s really hot anyway, you can’t handle it.

[@PJ-qf9qr]

No thanks. I'm staying in good old Ohio. Columbus (Intel factory), Cleveland, and Cincinnati are enough. Pittsburgh, Detroit, and Indianapolis are within short driving distance. There's plenty of beer and water here, and a lot of fun things to do. We need a high-speed rail system between the three Ohio cities though. 😂

[@moppman3191]

Will the water supply even last ? With a million more people- I don't see how. I'm moving to snowflake - don't want to live in LA east.

[@harleyv1969]

Vacant dry ghost town?

[@terriec808]

It doesn't matter ITS THE DESERT AND THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE.. THERE WAS TOO MANY 40 YEARS AGO

[@6m0nique2]

Make them stop

[@benniluna2656]

We’re getting all the out of state trash 😢 this used to be a nice place, no litter, no graffiti, no people in public in pajamas, traffic was minimal, people were polite

[@peggyaldrine7701]

Need to increase transportation both light rail and commuter rail via BNSF rail from the west and UP from the Southwest .

[@benniluna2656]

Public transportation is the kiss of 💀to a neighborhood. Tell me one place in this country that has a bus or rail stop that isn’t littered by seedy individuals and hobo skat

[@Itshiptobesquare]

Goodbye Norma Jean

[@scoopnoodle5492]

If we allowed all the technology plants to steal our water we should ask for cheaper technology

[@Menosfilms]

It’s gonna look like a dystopia

[@areyouben_inaz]

The government will start cleaning poop water and say it's clean.

[@carterdoyle7]

it is clean.

[@coffee_lover5394]

Robocop 😂

[@michaelrexrode3759]

Corporate media doing their usual civic boosterism they been doing since at least the 1950s when I lived there. At least here in GA we get actual rain. Our droughts in the South would be considered extremely rainy seasons in AZ.

[@co59720]

Wzter?

[@patrickwalsh4615]

It is already mad max, it will be pt2 soon 💩

[@Me97202]

Why anyone would move here is beyond me. It’s irresponsible to keep building like this in deserts.

[@Eric_Tennant]

So more tents and drugs.

[@AzTrailRider57]

WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER FOR MORE PEOPLE!!! STOP COMING HERE!!!!

[@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245]

It’s going to be ground zero for the liberal Californians vs conservative Texans civil war 🤣

[@dannyburleigh1]

So Arizona is a Town?!!=WHAT?!! Curtis should think before he talks!

[@quesadilla9957]

Uh, no. The “Valley” is a city or rather, a culmination of a city*** and smaller settlements around it, and cities are considered significant/“landmark” towns. Arizona is a state.

[@elmielmi4397]

Positive quotes about money for weather but should be home done . Why LA move on traffic Arizona.

[@pamelamercado6902]

I guess these people haven't been informed of the water shortage along with the crime here in Arizona I know all states have crime I was born and raised in Arizona and back in the seventies and before Arizona was a great place to live but as years have went by it has changed and not always for the good. At one time if your vehicle broke down and you were parked along the road you'd have four five cars stopped to help. You didn't fear you would be robbed or that you would be harmed in any way today you really worry At one time we really did have good schools now it's hard to find one not because the teachers are so bad it's has a lot to do with money and teacher shortage One thing that's really changed less water and more crime and a lot more people. And unfortunately the politicians keep moving them in and yet they don't take care as they say your backyard

[@BronxBombers_726]

I think Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz said it best. “Toto we’re not in Kansas anymore.” I’ve lived for 20 years in Phoenix and people are mean spirited and don’t give a s$$t about no one.

[@lo-kel]

"We came here for 'the weather'" has always been the most delusional take for me. The weather is only good for half the year (winter), and the rest of the year, it is literally unbearable to be outside for more than like 30 minutes at a time.

[@applimu7992]

Agriculture takes ~80% of Maricopa's water and civilians only take about ~20%, and new housing developments need proof of sustainably getting water for 100 years. Water is not an issue.

[@nealamesbury1480]

What water problem ? Best view of phoenix =. You tube …..streets of america.

[@dannyburleigh1]

I still don't miss Phoenix!

[@haroldtsosie1981]

Phoenix is becoming a wasteland!

[@Grapes2wine-MJK]

I truly hope it gets absorbed into nothing… If crime and drugs keep flowing then being selfish it should fall… By 2027 is the deadline… all water will be gone if state doesn’t change course

[@BronxBombers_726]

Probably much less water and more homelessness. That’s the future? You can have that. Phoenix maybe the 5th largest city but socially not much to do unless your on Mill Ave in Tempe or Old town Scottsdale.

[@eckankar7756]

We're rich in heroin, meth and fentanyl, thought.

[@davidparnell1637]

First

[@Ty-vn3cu]

The city will look more like Chicago. Wealth will continue to disperse to the suburbs. Traffic is really going to suck as it already is horrible during rush hour now. Can't imagine in 20 years. I imagine the Crime rate will certainly rise as minimum wage rising has put less good jobs on the market. Less people working and participating in society means they will most likely turn to crime to achieve money.

[@Lildizzle420]

that's optimistic since Chicago has trains

[@MainMan7012]

Good luck to those who want to live in an oven including many who will whine about global warming!

[@lambda653]

Rotting.

[@MohammadHossainMD]

If you continue to act like CA and restrict multifamily housing and public transport you will end up being another CA

[@billscarnage]

Please don't move here.

[@SigFigNewton]

Depends on whether they let themselves run out of water