What Would It Be Like To Be Transformed Into THE NAZGUL? | Lord of the Rings Lore

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@rafaelgustavo7786
@rafaelgustavo7786 10 ай бұрын
"Come not between the Nazgûl and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."
@kaidorade1317
@kaidorade1317 10 ай бұрын
Probably felt like butter being stretched over too much bread
@horseshoe2blah201
@horseshoe2blah201 10 ай бұрын
I thought you guys were going to go into a detailed account of the process of being transformed into a Nazgul. That would make a great video.
@papabird4425
@papabird4425 10 ай бұрын
You'd think that based on the title, but no.
@getmedjr
@getmedjr 10 ай бұрын
Not just me then, thought I had missed something.
@papabird4425
@papabird4425 10 ай бұрын
@@getmedjr clickbait
@mr.voidroy6869
@mr.voidroy6869 10 ай бұрын
Disliked lol
@hornedgod2873
@hornedgod2873 10 ай бұрын
The Nazgûl’s roles chapter or section in this video goes into this. I think the process isn’t very mechanical but almost metaphorical
@elvacoburg1279
@elvacoburg1279 10 ай бұрын
I read an article some time back that suggested that the process of physically becoming a ring wraith did not start until the bearer of the rings exceeded their normal lifespan, and at that point they started to fade. Of course, by that time they were probably completely dominated mentally by Sauron, with little will of their own.
@NoFormalTraining
@NoFormalTraining 10 ай бұрын
That might explain Gollum to some degree. As a Hobbit he had probably exceeded his natural life span and to look at him, you would never guess what his race was. He did wear the ring all the time but it was still able to corrupt him, and even when he lost it, he still kept living. This makes me wonder, when Frodo caught up with Bilbo in Rivendale and saw how much Bilbo had changed, was that really age catching up, or something else? Is that in any way what happened to the nine men who became Ringwraiths? Here's another thought, if the one ring was destroyed without Gollum swan diving into the lava, how long would Gollum have lived afterwards? Would he have gotten to go to the Undying Lands too, or would he have just keeled over once the ring was destroyed?
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin 7 ай бұрын
@@NoFormalTraining Gollum himself expected that "when Precious goes, we'll die, yes, die into dust. Dusst!" Of course, he may have been mistaken; Bilbo did not immediately succumb to the physiological ravages of time as soon as the Ring melted.
@northplayyyer3453
@northplayyyer3453 5 ай бұрын
​@@NoFormalTrainingGollum had Sauron's ring, not one of the nine ( or 19). His Master Ring had no such ability as to turn it's wearer to a wraith.
@RJCE420
@RJCE420 10 ай бұрын
"Nine he gave to Mortal Men, proud and great, and so ensnared them. Long ago they fell under the dominion of the One, and they became Ringwraiths, shadows under his great Shadow, his most terrible servants. Long ago. It is many a year since the Nine walked abroad. Yet who knows? As the Shadow grows once more, they too may walk again."
@joshallen4848
@joshallen4848 10 ай бұрын
Hey, Sauron. Those rings will make the wearers nigh invincible and totally under your control? Better only make nine of them. You don't want too many nigh invincible servants under your control or anything like that... 🥔
@RJCE420
@RJCE420 10 ай бұрын
@@joshallen4848 Sauron: Do my bidding, and I shall give you eternal life and unlimited power. Elves: ew. Dwarves: What!? No, I'm digging. Men: YES!!!!
@AlyssMa7rin
@AlyssMa7rin 10 ай бұрын
Each ring took a portion of Sauron's essence and will to create, and the Ringwraiths *could* be killed, they were just difficult to kill. @@joshallen4848
@DominikPinkas
@DominikPinkas 10 ай бұрын
@joshallen4848 Because he didn't, if fact, make the rings. He gave advice, he assisted, but he only made the One. The rings were made by smiths of Eregion and Sauron stole all but the Three before giving them away to more receptive victims.
@joshallen4848
@joshallen4848 10 ай бұрын
@@DominikPinkas Thanks for not understanding what jokes are, Buzz Killington. 👍
@TarMody
@TarMody 10 ай бұрын
On a theoretical basis (from the spiritual perspective specific to Tolkien mythology), the transformation into a Nazgûl (a ring-wraith) can be described as the fading of the human species like the elves. While the elves fade away naturally in Arda, it is the rings of power that make humans do this artificially. In a way, it is a kind of side effect of the rings of power on the human species. Rings of power fade humans while preventing elves from fading. The reason why rings of power have the opposite effect on elves and humans in terms of fading is the relationship of their souls (fëar) with their bodies (hröar), which are structured from the material of Arda (their souls being or not connected to Arda). The rings of power they possess connect the souls of people whose souls are not connected to Arda to Arda, contrary to their nature, and this becomes their spiritual suffering. They find themselves unable to die and unable to leave Arda. This is the idea I developed. The fear spread by the Nazgûl is related to Estel (a kind of hope), one of the basic themes of mythology. Estel deprivation prepares the ground for Melkor's evil will to take effect. Aware of this, Sauron aimed to pacify the Estel feeling in beings through the Nazgûl and activate the will of his lord Melkor, to whom he was affiliated. Further evidence that Sauron derived his power from the inheritance of his lord Melkor (the spiritual power he spread throughout Arda). Gandalf, on the other hand, pacifies this influence of the Nazgûl through Narya and strengthens the will to resist with courage by developing the sense of Estel in beings. This is another theoretical approach I have developed on this subject. The dagger Merry uses is sort of like an anti-Morgul sword. It frees the soul of the ring-wraith, which is forced to be bound to its withered body (against its nature through the ring of power), by separating it from the body to which it is bound, and making it independent of Arda. In this case, whether the freed soul returns to Mandos is a separate speculation. This is my theory on this subject.
@johnfleet235
@johnfleet235 10 ай бұрын
It always seemed to me that the Nazgul were failures. Yes, they were terrifying and could really impact the moral of Sauron's enemies. But that terror was drawback since they could only interact with the living world on a limited basis because they were so terrifying. One of the strengths of men was their unpredictability. They were not bound to Arda and their spirits were often restless. Sauron took from the Nazgul the greatest strengths as men. It seems if you look at it, the rings were a disaster for Sauron. The Elves took there's off until he fell at the end of the Second Age, the dwarves could not be subjugated by the rings and for Men the rings created monsters.
@john-er6or
@john-er6or 10 ай бұрын
I’m not sure of this, but it seems right to me: when the One Ring was finally destroyed, the remaining eight Nazgûl were said to have “crackled and went out.” It’s my belief that at that point, they were finally released from their bondage to Sauron, and able to accept the Gift of Men (mortality) that was given by Illuvatar. I say this because maybe, just maybe, they didn’t start out as evil men. The were tricked by Sauron and became evil extensions of his will over time. So in the end they were finally able to leave the circles of the world, as Illuvatar intended. Not saying they were redeemed or anything such, but to finally be able to be free from the thralldom and have your Fea go where it was supposed to, probably felt like a great relief. I could be wrong, but I only think this because, again, Sauron lied to and tricked them in the beginning.
@jacobgriffiths3405
@jacobgriffiths3405 10 ай бұрын
@@john-er6orThat’s a great thought.
@solitarysurreal3652
@solitarysurreal3652 10 ай бұрын
Certainly makes a lot of sense! After all, Sauron was obsessed with absolute control, which is what led him to declare war on Middle-earth in the first place. So in taking away the Kings' spirits, he was removing their capacity for free thought and independence.
@mr.voidroy6869
@mr.voidroy6869 10 ай бұрын
Ur right in the extender universe tolkien made a note that stated he thought it might give the impression the rings were a failure. He didn't intend for it but he didn't deny it either.
@bookman7409
@bookman7409 9 ай бұрын
I'm going to expand on mr.void's comment and say that he's likely right, but has left something out. Sure, you could call them failures, but at least until the time of the Fellowship, they still appeared to be successes, and had the Nazgul seized Frodo, they would have been a success, absent the intervention of the Valar, or Eru. Gandalf implied that his arrogance brought with it a blindness, when he called Sauron a "wise fool", but even to those in on the Fellowship viewed this as the last, desperate chance they had to defeat Sauron. Gandalf included, I might add, at least until after Moria. I can sum it up by saying that when it comes to his plan with the Rings, he was indeed a wise fool, but that'd mean nothing, if I hadn't expounded a bit, first. Besides, it's extra Tolkien-related content, at no extra charge! ;)
@JohnAmidon-c6r
@JohnAmidon-c6r 10 ай бұрын
When you have the chance, look closely at the heads and especially the eyes, of the horses of the Nazgul. These were once noble horses that were tortured into something very twisted. Chilling.
@aaronhemme8913
@aaronhemme8913 10 ай бұрын
When I got into Lord of the Rings when I was a preteen in sixth grade I was a Nazgul for Halloween. My buddy who knew my parents was into Knights and stuff and he had armor he made from light sheet metal the boots that you see in the movie and they were easily slip onto my legs up to my knee and of course I bought a grim reaper robe which my mom completely put a you can't see in but I can see out cloth over the face so it looked like I had no face and she put a robe cloth over the head to make it look like the movie version and my the black gloves that came with the outfit my friend put pieces of metal to make it look like the gauntlets that you see that they wear in the film. And of course I had a sword it wasn't a ringwraith sword but still it was a sword that did its Duty I remember when I was in complete costume I did the walk with the stance of the Nazgul with the sword in front of me almost statuesque I tried doing the scream and it worked but it did a number on my vocals so I didn't do it as much
@johnquach8821
@johnquach8821 10 ай бұрын
Extremely early, perhaps first. I think the process was very gradual, so at first the Nazgul applicants wouldn't think something was going wrong until it was too late.
@kentvesser9484
@kentvesser9484 10 ай бұрын
You probably wouldn't notice anything peculiar until perhaps you started outliving all of your own generation by many years and subsequent generations started to take note of your slow aging, inability to get sick, recovery from wounds that would kill most, or notice odd things about you such as changes in appearance. Also, you might start to notice that people no longer just exhibited fear in the presence of a tyrant, but seemed to increasingly show a fear that is more primal like they are seeing something supernatural.
@GARYBLONDER
@GARYBLONDER 10 ай бұрын
This vid doesn't actually address the title - it is instead about the nature of the Nazgul. The reference to Frodo's near transformation to a wraith is not comparable because the mechanism is completely different. What it SHOULD have done is focus entirely on how the transformation would progress, mentally and physically. Mentally, thought would be increasingly about fascination with Sauron, to the point that the will of Sauron was the only remaining thought. Physically they would increasingly prefer to be invisible as their bodies aged, until eventually their bodies became so withered they could only continue to exist invisibly. However their bodies must have still existed as otherwise the Witch King could not have been stabbed by Elven blades. Unpacking this process in detail over time was what I was hoping to see and didn't get.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! The title and the video itself don’t match! Would have been very interesting to see that process described, rather than merely alluded to.
@matthewanderson9754
@matthewanderson9754 10 ай бұрын
Man, the music that accompanied the Nazgul in the movies always gives me the shivers!!!
@briansheets3996
@briansheets3996 10 ай бұрын
Another great video as usual! I've always found the Ring Wraiths to be the most nightmarish of all creatures in Fantasy. And I've always wondered if there was ever a shred of their humanity left, buried deep within them, or if they were utterly consumed by the will of Sauron.
@orchardhouse9241
@orchardhouse9241 10 ай бұрын
I would argue that the barrow-wights give the Nazgul a run for their money, but I think I have to say that the Nazgul are scarier because I have had nightmares about them.
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 10 ай бұрын
There was one shred left: their mortality. That is, their ability to be killed. The pronunciation of Southron, I would argue, should have the same first syllable as southern. (I wrote that for he said South Ron right at that point.)
@Cauin450
@Cauin450 10 ай бұрын
Sauron always had time. It didn't matter how many times he got defeated, he would start over. This process is ruthlessly Darwinian. I'd imagine that over time he would find captains and servants, survivors whose strength was above the norm or people who he had influenced and done favours for, who could be used to further his own ends. There is a game, Shadows of War, available now with videos of some of the in-between scenes and fights. About the return of Celebrimbor and the forging of a second Master Ring. Every time someone possessing this Ring defeats a Nazgul, you're given a flashback of his life. How he was manipulated by Sauron, each one made to perform a horrific evil which damned their soul. Living in such a vulnerable condition physically, Sauron would give one of the Nine. The ring would give them power - strength, rage, authority - whatever they wanted! In the accepting and in the using of the ring, they were bound by their own damnation to Sauron. Though they were tricked, they made the decision themselves. They were destroyed by their own hand. As each were destroyed in the game, their last words were 'as my pain ends, yours is just beginning!'
@fred20097
@fred20097 Ай бұрын
I saw the movie version on youtube, edited by gameclips and loved it. I already game, so unfortunately I don't have the time or money to play it.
@DamonNomad82
@DamonNomad82 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, two of the Ringwraiths were once great artists of Middle Earth. Their original names were "John Howe" and "Alan Lee".
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 10 ай бұрын
Though all were prideful I like to think one or two had good intentions before they fell in darkness
@GrayNeko
@GrayNeko 10 ай бұрын
I think there is also an element of addiction that has to be addressed here. Don't get me wrong, this was a fantastic video and your points are all very well made. But, like Gollum, I think the Nazgul became addicted to the power of their rings. Otherwise, any sane person would felt themselves slipping away and have thrown them away and said, 'no more of that, thank you!'. Tolkien's ideas of power and responsibility are remarkably complex, especially given his Catholic faith. Yes, you can pity the Nine, but can you forgive them for their deeds? Tolkien lets you work that one out for yourself, as a great author should. ^_^
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 10 ай бұрын
The Morgul blade would have originated, not in Angmar, but in Minas Morgul, the Tower of Sorcery.
@mikeynth7919
@mikeynth7919 8 ай бұрын
And then you have Farmer Maggot, the only known person to tell a Nazgul to "Take a hike, Charlie." If the Nazgul had only taken a bit to consider that encounter... "Wait a minute, that little guy wasn't scared, wasn't dominated, we had no effect on him other than annoying him...fudge, this place is gonna be tough if it ever gets mad."
@orchardhouse9241
@orchardhouse9241 10 ай бұрын
The Ride of the Rohirrim is one of the best parts of The Return of the King. My theory is that the Nazgul are a collection of once-powerful people that Sauron collected from around Middle Earth.
@Svensk7119
@Svensk7119 10 ай бұрын
I have the last portion of it memorized, as well as the last portion of the previous chapter: And as if in answer, there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns. In dark Mindoluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the North wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
It’s not just you that think that about the Nazgûl’s origins, that’s the general consensus!
@TheTableOfDurin
@TheTableOfDurin 10 ай бұрын
I never thought of Gothmog being a Nazgul, but I like that, giving him a grander statue than an orc captain. I think the witch king and 4 others are from Numénor. And the others are probably from the east and south,maybe one of the men of the white mountains, since they worshiped Sauron during the dark years of Middle-earth.
@ahox9283
@ahox9283 10 ай бұрын
Could we have a video about 'why gollum didnt age after losing the ring to bilbo?' Seems interesting to me that mere months after seperating from it bilbo was close to his deathbed on his next meeting with frodo in Imladris but gollum who had been seperated from it for decades now remains alive and practicaly unchanged
@MM-dm4xj
@MM-dm4xj 9 ай бұрын
In the books years pass between bilbo giving up the Ring and its destruction, dont rely on the movie for these things
@ahox9283
@ahox9283 9 ай бұрын
@@MM-dm4xj Actually the whole events in the lord of the rings from ring discovery by gandalf until its destruction took only 11 months 1 week and 6 days, when frodo leaves rivendel from that point it takes about 5 months untril the ring is destroyed, wich means bilbo had only been seperated from it for around 6 months, not years
@MM-dm4xj
@MM-dm4xj 9 ай бұрын
@@ahox9283 yes i know. How does that contradict my Statement above or did you just want to elaborate on it? I Repeat from the moment bilbo gave up the Ring and its destruction more than 10 years passed. Edit: no it doesnt mean bilbo was separated only 6 months from the Ring because he gave Frodo the Ring and after that several years passed until the actual Events were Set in motion with gandalf realizing its the one ring
@ahox9283
@ahox9283 9 ай бұрын
@@MM-dm4xj okay i hear and accept your statement, but that still doesnt explain why bilbo was much more severly affected by being seperated from the ring than gollum was, both of them were the same race aswel so i dont see why it wouldnt be an interesting topic to talk about
@MM-dm4xj
@MM-dm4xj 9 ай бұрын
@@ahox9283 i dont think he was. Once again i think you are basing this idea on the movie. Bilbo only becomes very old when the Ring is destroyed. Or maybe you could explain what you are referring to.
@bryanmatthews2370
@bryanmatthews2370 10 ай бұрын
Ya know, I never gave this much thought. I kinda just presumed that he gave the nine to them at around the same time (perhaps within a few months of each other). It never once crossed my mind that they were given over ages
@manuelrosas5889
@manuelrosas5889 3 ай бұрын
I have theory about the Morgul blade that the witch king has. What if the morgul blade was originally owned by Beren and it was the same the dagger that cut the Silmarllion from Melkor crown. Then Melkor in anger takes the broke the dagger for what it did. He then re-forged it to corrupt the dagger and made it into the Morgul blade. Then it was lost in the final battle where he was captured. His second lieutenant Sauron found the Morgul blade and had it, but didn't use it until the second age. He then passed it on to the Witch King. Even at Weathertop Aragorn sings about Beren and Luthien. It only makes sense that the dagger that they use in the story should come back. Continuing that then Frodo is stabbed in the chest by the very blade that Beren once used. Frodo is ultimately healed by the same plant that healed Beren.
@fred20097
@fred20097 Ай бұрын
Cool. Love it.
@HeliRy
@HeliRy 10 ай бұрын
Always found it profound. One man goes to war and returns to write Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Another man returns home… and writes Mein Kampf. Crazy how differently we can look upon the same world.
@Erebusdidnothingwrongish
@Erebusdidnothingwrongish 10 ай бұрын
Invited on the Poll. Thanks for following through x
@kragary
@kragary 10 ай бұрын
I don't have any book theories but I have a RoP theory: Isildur's sister whatever-her-name-was is gonna become the Witch King cause it takes a girl boss to slay a girl boss.
@aidanrandall7438
@aidanrandall7438 Ай бұрын
I would so like a Nazgul redemption story
@fred20097
@fred20097 Ай бұрын
Me too.
@enigma9971
@enigma9971 10 ай бұрын
I always wondered why Gandalf didn't destroy them out of hand. They are merely the wraiths of mortal men, Gandalf is a demigod with a mightier ring. They are no match to him if he unveils his true power
@danadams05
@danadams05 10 ай бұрын
With what you have said about Frodo’s transition into a wraith and the reason why he left middle earth, do you believe it is possible the wound reduced Frodo’s resistance to the rings power? Without the wound, would he of faired better?
@Justin-pe9cl
@Justin-pe9cl 10 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting thought but I don’t think so.
@danadams05
@danadams05 10 ай бұрын
@@Justin-pe9cl why do you think not? I believe it’s quite possible if Frodo started his transformation into a wraith which strips humanity, however little it took may have weakened him.
@Justin-pe9cl
@Justin-pe9cl 10 ай бұрын
@@danadams05 Mostly because it’s never referenced or hinted at, although the more I think about it the more sense it makes.
@deathstrike
@deathstrike 8 ай бұрын
In a way Tolkein wrote long before George Lucas, but Lucas seemed to have had a similar being in his own movies. The Sith in many ways undergo a similar transformation upon becoming an apprentice. The only difference is that Sith while enslaved to the Dark Side of the Force, are not imprisoned by it, but both groups suffer in a similar manner. The Sith "transform" over time and assuming they live long ,become a shell as well. Their skin pales. Their eyes look sunken in, their bodies also become frail. This is due to long exposure to the deteriorating effects of the dark side. While a Jedi serving the light does not endure the deterioration, the Sith do. That implies both groups have a concept of a light side and a dark side. The Nazgul, like the Sith accept the powers and begin to use it, thus "draining" the dark side. It would have to be replenished with waves of constant fear, suffering, and death. And that is what the Nazgul inspire and that might be why they do so. Because without the dark energy that fear and suffering cause, they cannot replenish their power and would possibly wither and die. So like all of Mordor, the entire world of Tolkein rests on the simple balance of light and dark. With both sides eternally fighting for dominance. So it's a need to make the denizens of Middle Earth suffer and be afraid in their dreams. It gives Sauron substance and food to feed upon. The Sith are similar, inspiring fear and dread with their appearance. And like a leech to blood, both groups (Nazgul and Sith) need their enemies to be afraid and in pain. It makes them stronger.
@jacobgriffiths3405
@jacobgriffiths3405 10 ай бұрын
You guys never miss! Another awesome vid👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@MisterTutor2010
@MisterTutor2010 7 ай бұрын
Imagine a Hobbit sized wraith :)
@Chris-bv4ko
@Chris-bv4ko 3 ай бұрын
It would be cool if Gothmog was another Nazgul, but I do not believe that he was. My guess would be the witch king was a Black Numenorean and likely born into or joined at an early age a cult of morgoth/sauron worship. He was noted for his ability, ambition, and lust for power and awarded with a ring of power. I wonder if there was some sort of selection process to be granted a ring. IE Sauron would play two rivals off each other, and they would each go to greater and greater lengths to prove themselves worthy of such a gift from Sauron.
@LoriPaar-mb1pv
@LoriPaar-mb1pv 10 ай бұрын
I love all your videos. I love all the LOTR movies but I haven't read the books. Your videos teach me a lot about the lore. Thank you.
@jacquiekramer4738
@jacquiekramer4738 10 ай бұрын
You should listen to them if you get a chance❤
@majornugzzz5424
@majornugzzz5424 10 ай бұрын
Do the gentlemen of this channel read them? I'd listen if so..
@benx6549
@benx6549 10 ай бұрын
​@@majornugzzz5424Andy Serkiss reads them
@sandervanbouwelen1187
@sandervanbouwelen1187 10 ай бұрын
Ok so I got a question. So the Nazgúl cloak themselves to be visible for people outside the spirit realm, right? So if they aren’t cloaked and are barely visible to normal people’s eyes can people actually feel it when the would get slapped by them? I mean they can hurt you with their weapons and Frodo tackles Boromir in the films while wearing the ring (can’t remember if he did it in the books too, been a while since I read them) but is this the same to the Nazgúl uncloaked?
@MagaldiMateus
@MagaldiMateus 10 ай бұрын
Well you never have to fear being without a job, with the permanent employment program of The One. Great healthcare, you feel immortal. And the uniform is awesome.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha great comment! Kind funny that “permanent employment” actually sound very creepy if u think about it.
@GRWelsh7
@GRWelsh7 9 ай бұрын
I think what Frodo went through as a Bearer of the One Ring and being wounded by the Morgul Blade was a hint of what it was like.
@N1njaZ3n
@N1njaZ3n 10 ай бұрын
The Dork Lords video titled “Which king is the Witch King” has my favorite theory on who the Witch King could be.
@cosmincelau6157
@cosmincelau6157 10 ай бұрын
The question I never asked, and never needed that I needed to know.
@fred20097
@fred20097 Ай бұрын
A good video and i found it interesting, but it's not really about what it's like to become a nazgul. It's more about what the nazgul symbolise.
@anamariaaguilera5796
@anamariaaguilera5796 10 ай бұрын
Nazgûl have always been my absolute favorite. Witch King is probably one of the greatest villains ever created. But I do have a question… since Nazgûl are not living nor dead, what exactly happened to witch king after being defeated by Eowyn? Technically he was dead to begin with so he couldn’t die…
@fred20097
@fred20097 Ай бұрын
Exorcised? 😂❤
@wagon9082
@wagon9082 10 ай бұрын
Good video
@stevefontaine1335
@stevefontaine1335 10 ай бұрын
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@toddkurzbard
@toddkurzbard 10 ай бұрын
Do the Nazgul still wear their rings in the actual LOTR? And, if not, wouldn't Sauron WANT them to continue to wear them, as by keeping them on, Sauron's power over them would STILL increase further?
@angelsandautobots
@angelsandautobots 10 ай бұрын
One would assume they're bound to the very rings that corrupted them. The rings are what connect the wraiths to Sauron so it would make sense that removing them would not be an option. Just my take on it
@faulker6751
@faulker6751 10 ай бұрын
on the other hand@@angelsandautobots, was there anything left for the rings to consume? their will was already bound to the rings, their physical form gone , their spirits were consumed and wills bound all that was left was the memories of the long years of torture and hatred.
@angelsandautobots
@angelsandautobots 10 ай бұрын
@@faulker6751 That's also a good point. The rings'work was done, there was no further use for them. That's something to think about.
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
I think I read that Tolkien wrote that Sauron held their rings, at least during the War of the One Ring. Apparently the Ringwraiths didn’t need to physically possess them, not anymore at least, but Sauron may have felt that he needed to hold their rings to control them now that he no longer possessed the One.
@miraak9961
@miraak9961 10 ай бұрын
I hobe there find peace after the end of the one Ring
@yakuza_pallooza6339
@yakuza_pallooza6339 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video as usual, love ur content
@IanHeins
@IanHeins 10 ай бұрын
Nice work dude thanks
@andrewrentuaya9510
@andrewrentuaya9510 10 ай бұрын
a fate worse than death...
@upschutt4842
@upschutt4842 10 ай бұрын
Were they really kings? I remember a video by Council of the Rings saying there is nothing said about them being kings beforehand.
@LordMortanius
@LordMortanius 10 ай бұрын
The men who would become the Nine were described as "mighty in their day, kings, sorcerers, and warriors of old".
@alvo212
@alvo212 10 ай бұрын
I always wondered if the 9 received their rings individually or at some great counsel.
@planepantsgames1791
@planepantsgames1791 10 ай бұрын
I wonder what it was like in valinor when gandalf and Frodo showed up?
@baystated
@baystated 10 ай бұрын
Why aren't there legions of wraiths that are Morgul blade victims? Does every victim of a Morgul blade injury turn into a wraith themselves? Why is Frodo special? Is it because the breaking of the blade inside the wound is the rare occurrence? Is it that the "turning" happens rapidly without ethelas medicine? Is it that the attack usually kills before the "turning" is complete?
@orchardhouse9241
@orchardhouse9241 10 ай бұрын
I think this might be because Morgul blades were in short supply. I imagine it would take a lot of work to make a Morgul blade.
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 10 ай бұрын
@@orchardhouse9241 And add the fact there were just 9 of the Ringwraiths. Not much for steady flow of new undead recruits.
@timothyheimbach3260
@timothyheimbach3260 10 ай бұрын
Wraiths aren't that effective without the malice of Sauron behind them. It's possible those turned by blades were just tortured souls not soldiers.
@dennisstahlman135
@dennisstahlman135 10 ай бұрын
“What If the Witch King took the One Ring for himself ?!?”
@NoFormalTraining
@NoFormalTraining 10 ай бұрын
I sometimes wonder what Sauron did with the remaining seven rings for the Dwarves he recovered. He got back three and if fans are right they were basically the same in all regards as the nine, so I wonder if he ever tried to make 3 more Nazgul. Or if Sauron had won and reclaimed the one ring, could the Wytch King either be resurrected in some way, or could his ring still be used to make a replacement? Could he have made even more rings like the 9 and 7 and make even more if possible?
@EricGasz69420
@EricGasz69420 10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah this video was pretty NazCool
@4Bobay
@4Bobay 10 ай бұрын
Lol!
@drewmark76
@drewmark76 10 ай бұрын
What tortures did the Nine go through to become what they are in the books and movies?
@Alexquints
@Alexquints 10 ай бұрын
One question I have is did any of the Nazgul know what they would become. Some could be so power hungry that they may have willingly undergone the changes.
@mattbryant4910
@mattbryant4910 10 ай бұрын
would be good if you can do a few live streams again its not been the same without them
@shhtha
@shhtha 10 ай бұрын
Just dying but your spirit being trapped?
@funkfamily4165
@funkfamily4165 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how effective the Nazgul would've been against the Noldor in the FA. I think not so much....
@timothyheimbach3260
@timothyheimbach3260 10 ай бұрын
We see a faded example with Glorfindel who could stand against them.
@tecdesigns8183
@tecdesigns8183 10 ай бұрын
I think they were kings of men until Sauron fed them after midnight turning them into nazgul.
@barracuda6900
@barracuda6900 10 ай бұрын
Gothmog was, of course, an Orc version of Harvey Weinstein in the films.
@caseywood9781
@caseywood9781 10 ай бұрын
So aside from being stuck with a Morgol blade, is it only men that become wraiths? Why didn't the one ring turn Gollum into a wraith?
@jimknowles9634
@jimknowles9634 10 ай бұрын
Read The Lord of the Rings, chapter two - The Shadow of the Past (forget the movies, they tell you nothing).
@angeloalmario
@angeloalmario 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the witch king was the leader when i was a kid watching lord of the rings😅 they are bad asses just look at them faceless the black hood 🔥🔥
@Tim.Stotelmeyer
@Tim.Stotelmeyer 10 ай бұрын
Did Sauron know the nine would lose their physical human bodies and become wraiths? Or was he hoping to have human servants.
@matthewanderson9754
@matthewanderson9754 10 ай бұрын
Does tolkiens writings ever describe Minas Ithil?
@orchardhouse9241
@orchardhouse9241 10 ай бұрын
Yes. The passage is in The Two Towers, at the beginning of the chapter titled The Stairs of Cirith Ungol.
@teostere
@teostere 10 ай бұрын
I guess that the Nazguls are the most op in Middle Earth … What if some nazgul went rogue?
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
It’s not possible for them to go rogue since their wills are completely bound to Sauron due to the rings. But it could be a cool what-if! Their power and abilities could be used against their old master, but I don’t think their nature of terror could ever be used to do good.
@teostere
@teostere 10 ай бұрын
@@MerkhVision Yea… but it is a Nice scenario to think about
@morgoth173
@morgoth173 10 ай бұрын
Video 273
@Sandbarfight
@Sandbarfight 10 ай бұрын
Great job
@HistoryofDragonBall
@HistoryofDragonBall 10 ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@thevillageblacksmith8550
@thevillageblacksmith8550 10 ай бұрын
They are all my ex girlfriends 😂
@TheBrokenSword
@TheBrokenSword 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Justin-pe9cl
@Justin-pe9cl 10 ай бұрын
Good thing YOU didn’t put a ring on them.
@shereemcclelland2186
@shereemcclelland2186 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🇦🇺👍
@shereemcclelland2186
@shereemcclelland2186 10 ай бұрын
@@Justin-pe9cl clever 😂😂
@thevillageblacksmith8550
@thevillageblacksmith8550 10 ай бұрын
@@Justin-pe9cl too right on that one
@baystated
@baystated 10 ай бұрын
Would wraiths created by Morgul blade wounds/shards be slaves to Sauron's will or just wraiths-for-hire by whichever evil lord of the time commands them?
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 10 ай бұрын
Wraiths-for-hire 😆
@TRivan-kx2bi
@TRivan-kx2bi 10 ай бұрын
The books tell us that they would have been slaves to the Dark Lord, but they would also be less powerful than the Nazgul.
@pinstripesuitandheels
@pinstripesuitandheels 8 ай бұрын
The Nazgûl are indeed pitiable. I wonder, are they released from bondage through the destruction of the one ring? Do their spirits, as men, return to Eru Illúvatar? Do they find peace? I would want them to find peace. I think they have atoned for their sins through their bondage and ages of suffering.
@joristurk
@joristurk 10 ай бұрын
❤🎉
@HeadhunterKev96
@HeadhunterKev96 10 ай бұрын
Gothmog might actually be a Nazgul but I also love the depiction of Peter Jackson in the movies!
@gandalf4751
@gandalf4751 10 ай бұрын
😍💕👌
@EffequalsMA
@EffequalsMA 10 ай бұрын
Oi, it cannot be *over* stated....this misuse is a twitch for me.
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 10 ай бұрын
It itches incessantly😅
@kingpoocomedy1987
@kingpoocomedy1987 10 ай бұрын
Another Good Question is if frodo did turn into a Wraith who the hell would have honestly taken him Seriously? I don't think They thought that through honestly 😂😂😂😂
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 10 ай бұрын
Lmao right! A hobbit sized Ringwraith would be like a child in a Halloween costume lmfao
@kingpoocomedy1987
@kingpoocomedy1987 10 ай бұрын
@@MerkhVision yes exactly 🤣🤣🤣
@peterolbrisch8970
@peterolbrisch8970 9 ай бұрын
Your breath gets really bad.
@erichughes6119
@erichughes6119 10 ай бұрын
Sauron and the Nazgul are stupid. They could have been such a better weapon. All they had to do was walk around naked, as they were invisible, and assassinated Aragorn and other important characters. They could have also searched for the ring in thos way.
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 10 ай бұрын
Nazgul have to wear clothes to interact with the mortal world.
@erichughes6119
@erichughes6119 10 ай бұрын
@@mateuszslawinski1990 is there some sort of no shoes, no shirt, no interaction law?
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 10 ай бұрын
@@erichughes6119 Unfinished Tales, pt. III, ch. IV - when naked they emanate even more fear so even if you are not afraid of them they'll alarm you regardless.
@shiftlessinseattle
@shiftlessinseattle 10 ай бұрын
The Blue Wizards disappeared sometime in the 2nd Age... I wonder if they are Nazgul?
@DominikPinkas
@DominikPinkas 10 ай бұрын
Nope, their power was comparable to that of Sauron himself. They were Maiar. Waaaaaay above mere shadows of men. The lore specifically says the Nine were given to the race of men.
@tarotao753
@tarotao753 10 ай бұрын
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