What would the Premier League & EFL look like if all 92 Clubs used their original names?

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@aus3492 20 күн бұрын

Liverpool originally applied to be called Everton they were never granted permission to play as Everton because there was already Everton... no matter how well they do it's always worth reminding them that Liverpool was their 2nd choice name.

@molybdomancer195 7 күн бұрын

On the other hand it’s fun to remind Evertonians there would be no Liverpool FC if they had only paid their rent

@Ramtamtama Ай бұрын

AFC Bournemouth were originally called Boscombe FC, not taking the name Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic until after WWI. MK Dons are *officially* a new club founded in 2004. If, however, you want to trace them back through Wimbledon then they'd be Wimbledon Old Central.

@andrewmills3732 4 күн бұрын

Got to agree with a lot of the comments on here, club badges were far better back in the day to how they are now. As a Shrewsbury fan I would love us to revert to our original badge.

@glen1555 28 күн бұрын

Sheffield United's full title was Sheffield United cricket and football club, then in 1974 the South Stand was built over the cricket square, the cricket club relocated and the Pavillion demolished. Pleased you got Bradford City in as Manningham.

@steveallen3434 Ай бұрын

way cooler club badges back in the day

@37Pete84 6 күн бұрын

Some, but certainly not all.

@Footy13s Ай бұрын

Good vid, thanks!

@russybcool 27 күн бұрын

As an MK Dons customer I came here for the comments and was not disappointed.

@AndrewHogarth-o8b 12 күн бұрын

Great stuff well researched . My favourite has to be Walsall Town Swifts . I I I😅

@typhoon2827 28 күн бұрын

Middlesbrough was called Ironopolis before it was Middlesbrough. They played at Paradise Fields, the corner or which became Ayresome Park. There's still a bit of wall there from Ayresome Park, the rest just houses.

@Retro-Football-Club 27 күн бұрын

Great comment, Yeah we looked into this one before hand it was called Middlesbrough FC first, then several members left to form Middlesbrough Ironopolis after a dispute, technically they are listed as a separate club. Both teams debuted professionally in 1899, then they ended up merging. Hence why we used Middlesbrough FC in the video

@Ulkomaalainen 20 күн бұрын

Now somebody needs to make a Football Manager save with these names and coats and publish it. Bonus points if for all the other major leagues as well (Stade St Germain, Football Sky Madrid, Milan Cricket and Football, Wilhelmina Rotterdam. Today's major German clubs are lacking, being founded under their name, but Falke Eppendorf for Hamburg would be an example).

@1889jonny 8 күн бұрын

There's a game called Retro football boss, depending on what year you want to start in, you can play with the original team names, stadiums, players etc.

@peterwilson9282 Ай бұрын

Plymouth Argyle Where called Argyle Athletic FC - which encompassed Association Football, Athletics and Rugby!

@sentinel8617 Ай бұрын

Black Arabs 👀 definitely would have been going the way of the Washington Redskins if it was still around today

@DerInselaffe Ай бұрын

Definitely. Great name for its time and was probably considered quite cool but it's probably for the best that they became Rovers. The kit was awesome too: all black with a yellow sash on the shirt. It's why the pirate on the current club badge is blacked out with a yellow sash. Common second strip colours too.

@liamphillips9742 Ай бұрын

We are not American. We don't give a fuck

@sentinel8617 Ай бұрын

@@liamphillips9742ever heard of the Exeter Chiefs ? 👀

@johnthompson457 Ай бұрын

Easily the best team name. If they were still called that I just might have to start following them.

@apb3440 Ай бұрын

You mean the team that was forced to change their name because some morons got offended on behalf of people who weren’t offended and have tried ever since to have the Redskins name reintroduced ?

@wimbledan Ай бұрын

Wimbledon's original name was Wimbledon old central

@coyh1493 Ай бұрын

Luton Town were either Luton Whitestar or Luton Excelsior…. But that team from Milton Keynes were never Wimbledon….. there used to be a team in the area called Milton Keynes City, but a more appropriate name is the Bletchley stealers…..

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Luton Town were a completely different club that followed Wanderers and Excelsior. A Wanderers player then went and formed Town, so although there is a link they weren’t the same. As for MK, well as a football fan, I get it I do , but putting my YT channel impartiality cap on. we all know they were Wimbledon once, sadly, and that’s well publicised. It’s fair to say AFC are the true successor, but the actual entity became MK ☹️

@fwof3347 Ай бұрын

Sorry ML Dpns we’re Wimbledon whom I see ply there trade at plinth lane .. with jones, wise cork etc … this new Wimbledon are not the real Wimbledon like to or not … just like arsenal are a south east London team

@Antelope6 26 күн бұрын

Didn't Port Vale start out as Burslem Port Vale?

@Retro-Football-Club 26 күн бұрын

Nope. They were formed as Port Vale in 1876, although some dispute they were formed as Port Vale Victoria in 1879. Either way the club didn’t become Burslem Port Vale until 1884.

@TomClarkSouthLondon Ай бұрын

*the CRYSTAL PALACE FOOTBALL CLUB! . . . . . .since 1861!* ❤️👍

@Footy13s Ай бұрын

I am so confused, why did your badge change dates on in a few years ago?

@RyderSontaig 6 күн бұрын

@Footy13s They (we) are trying to claim they are the oldest club. Crystal Palace F.C. was a short-lived amateur football club formed in 1861, who contributed to the development of association football during its formative years. They were founder members of the Football Association in 1863, and competed in the first ever FA Cup competition in 1871-72. The club disbanded around 1876, its last entry listing appeared in the 1875 Football Annual edition. The current professional Crystal Palace F.C. claims to be a continuation of this club, although this has been disputed by football historians. The current professional Crystal Palace F.C. claims to be a continuation of the original club, after two club historians asserted a lineage, through the Crystal Palace Company ownership. This has led to claims by the club that Crystal Palace should be recognised as the oldest professional football club in the world in existence today. This claim has been disputed by other football historians, and also rejected by the Football Association after a detailed review by the National Football Museum. The FA told The Times in April 2022: "Amongst those historians, the broad consensus is that there is not a clear, substantial and continuous link from the Crystal Palace club founded in 1861 to that founded in 1905. Therefore, we will continue to recognise both the 1861 and 1905 foundation dates of the clubs named Crystal Palace.

@Footy13s 5 күн бұрын

@@RyderSontaig Ooh makes sense

@mikebirch5816 Ай бұрын

West Brom were a factory team known as The George salter XI

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Yep, founded as West Bromwich Strollers by workers from the George Salter works. Good little story as well 🤙🏻

@mikewilson8513 18 күн бұрын

I didnt know that. And I am from Birmingham

@rickygrimshaw1255 Ай бұрын

Boscombe back of the net!!!! 🍒

@Bolor30 Ай бұрын

A lot of Rovers…

@GarryCarr56 23 күн бұрын

Interesting that a lot of teams were formed from church names

@TIMBOWERMAN Ай бұрын

MK Don are NOT Wimbledon!

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Well technically (sadly) the original club were, as much as you or I don’t like it 🤷🏻‍♂️

@MidlandMark 28 күн бұрын

According to the FA, the club in Buckinghamshire were FOUNDED in 2004, at the same time as Wimbledon FC were dissolved, therefore the two entities are legally different, only the players and management transferred to the new organisation. The FA subsequently awarded the intellectual property rights, including the complete playing history of Wimbledon FC, to AFC Wimbledon meaning, in the eyes of the FA, AFCW are the legal continuation of WFC.

@Retro-Football-Club 26 күн бұрын

We are aware. However we all know and it’s common knowledge that MK Dons were Wimbledon. They even played a season as Wimbledon but based in Milton Keynes in 2003-04. So whatever legal papers have been signed to what manor doesn’t cancel out the fact that the club were purchased and relocated. Hence why that’s stated in our video.

@MidlandMark 25 күн бұрын

@Retro-Football-Club Yes, WFC were bought, then WOUND UP, after which all the history and honours of WFC were transferred by the FA to ACFW. By the FA's own rules, AFCW are the legal, as well as moral, contiunuation of the club - it's okay, I know you won;t back down or re-edit the video, especially as there were a few other errors (but I'm not going to list them all).

@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe 22 күн бұрын

Move on. Please. It's 2024, not 1994.

@andrewpeake1712 8 күн бұрын

Oh wow. Some improvements but for the most part the current badges are terrible. As a Stoke Sufferer ... the old badge is awesome.

@stbu9709 28 күн бұрын

Grimsby Pelham FC love it and the 3 wild boar on the original badge! 🏴🏳️🏴

@johnh9749 12 күн бұрын

You have really opened a can of worms here! Southampton were originally 'St Mary's Young Men's Association'. Southampton St Mary's came a few years later when they joined the Southern League. St Mary's Church is 400m from where Saints now play - hence St Mary's Stadium.

@craigmcvay1 Ай бұрын

Newcastle East End neverseen there badge before

@Krzyszczynski 23 күн бұрын

According to one account I read, Newcastle East End were formed by the merger of Stanley FC and another club called Rosewood - so which of those two should be considered the original club? To confuse matters further, their ground at St James' Park was originally the home of Newcastle West End, which went bust after a string of poor results.

@craigmcvay1 23 күн бұрын

@@Krzyszczynski i nknow aboot West Ens

@johnbevins6604 23 күн бұрын

Forest were actually Forest.

@gazbrucia1654 Ай бұрын

Chesterfield were originally called Chesterfield Town

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

It was actually called Chesterfield FC, then changed its name to Chesterfield Town. They then went out of business and reformed again as Chesterfield FC.

@craigb3426 27 күн бұрын

Cheltenham Town technically started as Cheltenham AFC, but…meh 😂

@Retro-Football-Club 26 күн бұрын

Interesting can’t seem to find anything on that on main sources.

@craigb3426 25 күн бұрын

@Retro-Football-Club the Trust are finding info out all the time and just very recently discovered that the clubs earliest known game is now 31st December 1884, as Cheltenham AFC, when it had previously been thought the club came into existence in 1887. So, 140 in a couple of weeks time.

@MikeDowney-jd1bd 22 күн бұрын

Wigan Athletic were Wigan Borough, till 1932.

@Retro-Football-Club 22 күн бұрын

Different clubs, Athletic were formed after Borough folded.

@shanelenham8736 Ай бұрын

Definitely don't think dial square fc would ever been taken seriously if they kept that name it sounds like a dodgy phone company

@tom7131 Ай бұрын

its not that big of a deal, its literally just the name of a workshop within the original players workplace that went on to form arsenal...

@Nykona-Sharrowkyn Ай бұрын

@@tom7131further more, the workshop was at the Woolwich barracks in South East London, that's were the name Woolwich Arsenal comes from

@Krzyszczynski 23 күн бұрын

@@Nykona-Sharrowkyn Weren't they Royal Arsenal as well for a time, before adopting the "Woolwich" version?

@darrencooper5282 Ай бұрын

Watford were Hertfordshire rangers or Watford rovers

@BlackpoolJohn Ай бұрын

MK DONS WERE NOT WIMBLEDON THEY TOOK THERE HISTORY BUT NOT RIGHT, AND IF ORIENT WAS A CRICKET CLUB SO WAS TOTTENHAM, HOTSPUR CRICKET CLUB, AND ALSO THEY WERE CALLED TOTTENHAM, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER TEAM CALLED THAT, SO THE HOTSPUR BIT WAS ADDED TO SEPARATE THE TWO.

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Can you toggle the caps kick off please John 🤣 As much as we all hate to admit it, they were Wimbledon, it’s well publicised. Tottenham were formed as Hotspur Football Club in 1882 by members of the Hotspur Cricket Club, so kinda correct.

@leecollison7527 Ай бұрын

@Retro-Football-Club Pretty sure MK officially renounced the history and all honours back to AFC in 2007, so are in effect a new club

@Nykona-Sharrowkyn Ай бұрын

@@leecollison7527officially, neither MK Dons or AFC Wimbledon have the honours of Wimbledon FC recorded

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Lee, I think you’re right I think they did renounce it, but in the grand scheme of things they still were technically Wimbledon. Don’t get me wrong if I’m taking my impartial hat off got a second, i absolutely love AFC Wimbledon and what they stand for, and I see them as the correct flag bearer for the old team, however had the original club not relocated they wouldn’t exist. I think it’s one of those things that however you label it, you are going to get people who disagree.

@alanslade9240 Ай бұрын

@Retro-Football-Club at least you aren't allowing their historical rewriting to get in the way of facts

@CameraExplorer Ай бұрын

Liverpool were never called Everton FC and Athletics Ground Company, as the FA rejected the name before it could be registered!

@Retro-Football-Club Ай бұрын

Well you just answered your own statement, they were and then had to switch it when the FA refused. Everton Athletic for short 🤙🏻

@sentinel8617 Ай бұрын

From Wiki “Originally named "Everton F.C. and Athletic Grounds Ltd" (Everton Athletic for short), the club became Liverpool F.C. in March 1892 and gained official recognition three months later, after The Football Association refused to recognise the club as Everton.”

@carausiusmenapia3219 29 күн бұрын

The press reports of local papers concerning Woolwich Arsenal joining the Football League mention Everton Athletic FC, who were told by the league to change their name. It's in the Woolwich Arsenal history books. Newcastle United joined around the same time.