What You Need to Know About Predestination

[@brother.chirchir]

Thanks Mr Brown, always appreciatw it. You have much grace

[@JayElDiplee]

God bless you, Dr. Brown! Thank you for all you do - you are truly tending the sheep.

[@taylorsealy5091]

Thanks Dr. Brown. That was a very good way to look at predestination as God predestining that Jesus would have a people who freely chose him and they are on a path of God's purpose. That really makes sense to me.

[@156fish]

Greetings from the Browns in Colorado- Nate & Andrea

[@polares420]

My big problem with our Calvinists brothers and sisters is the character of God! Because what kind of god would predestine someone to hell with no ability to repent or choose?! Our God is Love but what love is that?!

[@johnhoover7869]

I saw a similar problem as I listened to Dr. Brown's olive branch points. The Spirit of Calvinists (and I would dare say Fundamentalists) is very often dark and dictatorial. They don't believe so much in the power of the Spirit of God as they believe in their own intellect and self will. A fundamental difference in who their God is.

[@JG-id5vi]

Also once saved always saved is a very dangerous doctrine

[@harieljjohnson868]

God knows the end from the beginning he knows all things eventualities outcomes results what a Great and Wise LORD God We Have Amazing

[@Vlabar]

He prepared good works for us in advance, the choice is yours to do them. He predestined your name is in the Lambs book of life, it's your choice for it to stay there.

[@sikeajax]

I don’t think everyone is predestined for life unless we fail. It’s more like everyone is doomed unless we are saved.

[@barbaradickinson8534]

You might be surprised at the number of calvinists who do not believe there is any need to tell others about Jesus. I’ve known quite a few.

[@ndudujohn345]

I endure all things for the sake of the ELECT that they also may obtain their salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory (2 Timothy 2:10). Any calvinist with such an attitude (if such exist) just needs to look at the life of Apostle Paul who was well aware of God's election and predestination yet "laboured more than them all".

[@miroslaw7]

Being practical here when it comes to preaching the gospel. Non Calvinist have no problem in saying that “Jesus died for you” - as He so loved the world that whosoever believes …. (John 3:16). Christian Calvinist who believes in limited atonement cannot say that to anyone. That’s a practical issue that affects evangelism.

[@allenmorgan4309]

Predestination vs. Freewill is not an either/or proposition. Both are equally true. They are two sides of the same coin. God in His transcendence cannot be comprehended by the finite mind. God in His immenence is personal to us and we can know Him subjectively. In some way that we cannot comprehend our Freewill choices are predestined by God. Each one of us is a small particle of God and we are One with Him and at the same time God is completely other to us. Humanity in its delusion divided things up and separates everything into one thing or another. That is why we believe we are here and God is out there somewhere when God is closer to us than our own breathe and is the deepest part of our very own being. Therefore what we freely choose is what God has chosen and vice versa. It's not two things but one reality.

[@harieljjohnson868]

Amen Dr Briwn good Sir🕊

[@monaattianese9838]

What about Jesus saying “ many prophets and kings have desired to know these things and have not been able” What about Jesus telling Peter “ flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but My Father in Heaven” “

[@jasongivens7469]

I think one simple scripture keeps me from Calvinism ..Every man will be without excuse....how could that be true under Calvinism If they had no chance?

[@hamtramckchronicles]

You DO realize that Paul already anticipated that very argument, don't you?

[@midtwilightblue]

The division would only be because I do not want to be guided by someone that is going to preach the gospel with the rose colored lenses of a Calvinist viewpoint. There are too many scriptures that theology will misinterpret and lead to the self righteous belief that they’re created to be saved and others are damned no matter what. They also use very specific wordage and titles to redirect to that belief as well in their teachings or even in speaking about the Bible in general you almost can’t separate the belief from anything else they talk about.

[@georgemoncayo8313]

Everything that happens in history has been decreed/Predestined before the world was created see Eph 1:11, Proverbs 16:33 and Amos 3:6. And yes even when terrible things happen, I know it's hard for some people to accept but look what happened when David sinned against God and one of Davids punishments was that God told him that he was going to use Davids own son to shame his Father by Absalom Absalom doing something immoral to his Fathers concubines in front of all of Israel, see 2 Samuel 12:11-12 God said "Thus says the Lord, ‘Behold, I will raise up evil against you from your own household; I will even take your wives before your eyes and give them to your companion, and he will lie with your wives in broad daylight. Indeed you did it secretly, but I will do this thing before all Israel, and under the sun." Notice how God said "I WILL DO THIS THING."That was fulfilled in 2 Samuel 16:21-22. Jesus did not die for every single person ever and Jesus didn't die to make people savable. He died to save his elect. In John 17:9 Jesus said that he does not pray for the world. The word world is used in different contexts, in that context he's talking about the non elect. In John 3:16 world means that he purchased people from every tribe, tongue and nation Rev 5:9 and for the children of God scattered abroad John 11:52. Some have been "long beforehand marked out for condemnation" Jude 4 and "appointed to doom." 1 Peter 2:8. About Pharaoh God said “For this VERY PURPOSE I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth.” So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires." Rom 9:17-18. Jesus said "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Yes, Father, for this way was well-pleasing in Your sight. All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." Matthew 11:25-27. So, 2 Pet 3:9 the "not willing that any should perish" if you read that letter in context, 2 Pet 1:1 says "To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours." As far as salvation for all men verses, Paul was refuting the false notion of his time that God was only desiring to save just the Jews and 1 Tim 2:2 says to pray "for kings and all who are in authority" because as humans WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE ELECT ARE SO WE PRAY FOR EVERYONE! That's what it means in verse 4 by saying "all men." Amos 3:2 God said "of all the nations of the earth I have only known you." For centuries God passed over the majority of humankind because this verse isn't about knowledge it's about relationship. And it isn't because God foresaw Israel was more righteous then the other nations because sometimes Israel was more sinful then the pagan nations see 2 Kings 21:9. Only those who were predestined to be saved will be see Acts 13:48, Ephesians 1:4-5, Eph 1:11, Romans 9:11-23, John 6:37. 1 Samuel 3:14 God said “Therefore I have sworn to the house of Eli that the iniquity of Eli’s house shall not be atoned for by sacrifice or offering forever.” That's Limited atonement.

[@hamtramckchronicles]

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

[@danjjjatest]

You left out the part that says "ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation". Dr brown is right, if you dont follow God you are guilty. Of course God knows how many will make it in the end, however this notion that God made some people more Holy than others is a contradiction to what Jesus says: "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me."

[@georgemoncayo8313]

@danjjjatest You just used a straw man argument I see you don't understand Reformed theology since we believe that, those who are predestined will conform to the image of Christ, I made that clear in many of my videos. And the Apostles would sometimes quote only part of a verse for the point they were trying to make while quoting it

[@danjjjatest]

@@georgemoncayo8313 Its not a strawman argument when I quoted the entire scripture whilst you didnt. The plan for salvation cant involve alienating people. When Jesus layed his life down for "His sheep" it means that the gift of eternal life would only be given to his follower. "He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world"- 1 John 2:2

[@georgemoncayo8313]

@danjjjatest it is strawman when you asserted I didn't believe in the Lordship aspect by starting off saying what you did, I quoted part of it cause only part of it had to do with what I was saying the ither part in no way refute ls what I said and the world meaning he's the only Savior of the world he saves from every tribe and nation Rev 5:9 not those who were long beforehand marked out for condemnation or those who died not hearing the Gospel whether false teacher or any type of sinner , I'm not sure of you even know the definition of strawman also there are some people appointed to doom 1 Peter 2:8, and Jesus said he does not pray for the world meaning the non elect John 17:9.

[@Sharsuils]

Hi Dr. Brown. I really appreciate your radio show and your defense of continuationism in the face of my fellow Calvinists. But I have one question for you here -- you take the Arminian perspective and you brought up Romans 8. If Paul meant to say, "those whom God foreknew would believe," would that have been the perfect time to say it? Why leave it at "those whom God foreknew?" We would agree that "the restrainer" in 2 Thess 2 need not necessarily be the Holy Spirit by virtue of the fact that Paul doesn't say it's the Holy Spirit, and if it was, that would have been the time to say so -- so why not use the same principle here?

[@fredsmith62]

All are called, but you need it respond ! Use wisdom from above !

[@rajs230]

@fredsmith62 but how they will respond , if they are dead in sins ? A spritual death is seperation from God , the flesh always goes aganist the will of God. A born again Christian , will confess and repent of his sin, WHEN Holy Spririt convict him , unless it is revealed by the Holy Spirit , he cannot see or confess the sin Now a sinner who is not born of Holy Spirit ,How could be make a choice to believe and have faith unless .. 1 Thessalonians 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake. The Power of the Holy Spirit is the one who switch on the light in there heart of unbeliever. The initiation is from God firist, the Word gives them the belief and faith to trust in the Lord Faith comes by hearing , Hearing the Word of God .

[@Lili-Benovent]

Predestination- The very notion that an omniscient God who knows everything including the thoughts and motives, noble and ulterior, of every human being that has ever, or will ever be born means that everything must be predestined by him. He knows before you are born everything that will happen to you and whether you will be a fit person to live in his fantasy land in the sky after your death. If he can look into the future what is the purpose of a judgment at some later stage, why would he judge us if he knows everything beforehand, is it so the godly can gloat over being smarter than the rest of us because they passed some test? If the punishment for not following his multitude of rules is that we suffer being burned forever then why not consign us to that destination immediately upon our demise, why the judgment process? In fact, if this all knowing presence knows the outcome of our fate before we are born then why permit us to be born at all? He only wants the pure of heart to live in his Heaven, that seems to be his ultimate goal, so instead of allowing us to live a life of temptation and sin (which offends him) why doesn't he look into the future of each of his creations and select the good from the bad before they complete their lives of sin, which he must already know about if he is truly omniscient? This is just one small area of question about the personality of this so called God, there are thousands of other parts of his attitude towards humankind which should be examined in detail. If he created us just so he could allow us to be tortured for eternity then he is sadly deficient in the sense of justice that he has supposedly imprinted on the minds of most human beings. SOME GOD.

[@harieljjohnson868]

Like I Said Deutoronomy 29:29 The Secret Things That Belong to God Alone

[@karenlong5622]

Because YHWH Is, Was, and Shall Be, He knows all things before the world even began - ALL things. This is Who He Is. He knows our thoughts before we think them! This should give us pause (Selah) and cause us to speak only His Words and think only His thoughts and act according to His commandments and testimonies and precepts and law and order for our lives. Father truly knows best. We will worship Him forever as we Covenant with our BrideGroom Yashshua haMashiach, because of His body and blood shed for us. This is Faithfulness!

[@iseultmackinnon8197]

Read memoirs of a justified sinner by James Hogg its amazing.

[@joaosolreis3004]

Apart from what is taught in the scriptures, Calvinism seems to me the logical conclusion. Our inclination to accept the Gospel is the culmination of an insane amount of factors, such as where we were born, our family, our personality, childhood events, hormones, etc. etc. ALL of these are out of our control and are things determined by God. Therefore, it concludes that God organized such factors in a specific way so that some were saved and others were not. Perhaps, if Spurgeon had been born a day earlier, he would never have accepted the Gospel.

[@mikev4755]

John 6:40.

[@VocalizeMusicTV]

Maybe God was grieved because of how they chose to use their free will… more grieved in the sense of shocked, outraged or upset

[@yl5020]

Karen Long - Yeshua. With an e.

[@morghe321]

You can reply directly to her comment.

[@morghe321]

And you're right about Yeshua, btw.

[@harieljjohnson868]

Faith By Grace sola gratia

[@StarAccount-km1rt]

Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved. We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you. Take comfort knowing that we are not like God. We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did. So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God? So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you. Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases.

[@lonnierandall7882]

But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows. Luke 12:7 I've always said that faith is most like intuition or instinct. And faith is the gift of God. It is a knowing that is given to you by God, a knowing that you cannot otherwise explain. You just know, because God caused you to know. When people don't come to God, I understand it is because God is not calling them. John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. It really is ALL ABOUT GOD! Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Have you ever experienced Deja vu? I have experienced it many times in my life since I was a boy and still do at 64. It always happens when I go to a place I've never been to before. I concluded a long time ago that God is showing me glimpses of my future life long before it happens. Now I don't make anything of that, except that God knows the future before it happens. Predestination has to be true, otherwise God isn't omniscient. The thing about predestination is that God is the only one who knows how it turns out. We are not privy to it. Therefore, we have to live our lives one moment at a time, constantly making choices that we have no idea we will be faced with until we are faced with them. And we have no idea what choices we will make until we make them. But God already knows. God knew exactly what would happen in the garden of Eden. That is why He put the tree of the knowledge of good and evil there. And He didn't have to let the serpent in Eden. It was in the plan of salvation from the beginning. Adam's sin wasn't a failure of God. It was His plan. And that is why Revelation says that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. It was already in the plan. It is all about us coming back to God in repentance and falling on His mercy; and who will and who won't. The foreknowledge of God Think of this world as a movie, that has an "in the beginning" and a "the end." God is the producer and director of this movie. He has plugged it in and now it is playing. He already knows the whole epic story. God is not confined to time the way we are. He see's it all at once. The word "freewill" is nowhere in the Bible. But the terms "will of God" or "His will" are found 35 times. God chose us before we chose Him. Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Who ordained us? We were ordained before we believed. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Ephesians 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Romans 8:29-30 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Ephesians 1:4 According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundaiton of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Matthew 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, come, ye blessed of my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: Luke 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? Romans 8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Colossians 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Matthew 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. Mark 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: that no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord. James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 1 Peter 2:9 But ye are chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. Revelation 3:19-22 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. Isaiah 46:9-10 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

[@123dsj123]

John 1:1 reads, “The Word (of God) is God.” Consider Baal, the three-foot, life-less stone idol of the Canaanites: The word of Baal is not Baal; however, Baal had words which his worshippers obeyed. In fact, Baal’s words demanded infant sacrifices. But Baal could not speak his own words, because Baal’s words are eternally separated from Baal. Therefore, in the true sense of the eternal separation between Baal and the word of Baal, the word of Baal is not the same as Baal, himself. * This does not mean that no worshipper of Baal could attribute creative powers, strength, and eternality to Baal. Of course, they could - and they did; and it was blasphemed. In fact, each worshipper of Baal could make the following true claim about his Canaanite idol (stone god): Say: “He is Baal - the one (and only). There is none like unto Baal - he begot not, nor is he begotten.” This claim is eternally true and common for all non-living beings including idols. * Similarly, in Islam, the word of Allah is not Allah, himself. Quran 81: 19-21 reads, “Verily, this (Quran) is the word of an honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne.” The quality of speech is a prerogative (or an attribute) reserved only for living beings. Non-living beings (i.e., Black Stone, Moon, Kaaba) do not speak - and they certainly do not beget, nor are they begotten - they cannot perform a single miracle for their prophets, their priests, their celebrants, and their worshippers.”

[@andrewwright9960]

Did god know this world would be broken before he created it ?

[@ndudujohn345]

Yes that's why He had Jesus in the plan before the foundation of the earth (1 Peter 1:20-21).

[@judy9139]

The reason why this issue is worth dividing over is because Calvinism is an anti-Gospel. It attempts to nullify Jesus’ work on the cross which he did for the salvation of ALL man. It is an incoherent doctrine that will send many to hell. This is a major issue, unlike what does “day” mean in the creation story. Far from it.

[@smazey2309]

Dr brown this is out of topic but why do you give me nicodemus vibes

[@jayvansickle7607]

Predestination aside, I haven't heard a good answer as to why God couldn't simply save everyone.... even if it required the death of Jesus, why his payment can't unilaterally pay for the sin of everyone.

[@ravissary79]

In a sense he already did, thats universal atonement, but this doesn't yield salvation because salvation is in addition to our devt being paid. Salvation is only through faith, and faith applied to Christ is voluntary. I didn't make up this condition, God did.

[@jayvansickle7607]

@@ravissary79 But he didn't "Have" to include faith as a requirement though, right? Wouldn't that be an active choice by God?

[@ravissary79]

@@jayvansickle7607 if you believe in impeccability, God can only do tge highest good always. So we can say he "could" have done differently, but he seems to think he has a good reason.

[@jayvansickle7607]

@@ravissary79 So, would you agree with the statement, "There are only people in hell, because God wanted people in hell?"

[@ravissary79]

@@jayvansickle7607 no. The "only" ignores literally everything I've said. I can see why you claim no one answers your questions, you ignore the answers and create artificially binary logic bombs, presumably as a form of trolling or something, no idea, I'm a bad psychic.

[@harieljjohnson868]

JESUS IS LORD

[@Pastor-Brettbyfaith]

If you really want to simplify predestination, just show the truth about foreknowledge. Rom, 8:29 uses the Greek proginosko. God foreknows what we will do, therefore it must be. All the rest is simply a statement of fact after the fact. Does God know who will be saved tomorrow? If you say yes, then you agree that God is Sovereign and foreknows the future. If the death/resurrection of Jesus was for all mankind and most of mankind is going to end up in hell, then Jesus died in vain, and the plan of God failed. If on the other hand, God foreknows who will be saved; then calling those people elect should not be so difficult to understand. Just because God foreknows who will surrender, does not imply that he made them do it. Did God foreknow us before we were born? He foreknew everything about us. That is why it had to be.

[@SheepDog1974]

Calvinist. Reformed theology

[@Pastor-Brettbyfaith]

@SheepDog1974 No sir, I am a Christian who teaches biblical theology. John Calvin did not die for my sin debt. I do not identify with anyone but Jesus. He is my absolute identity. I am a Bible believing, Bible preaching Christian. Thanks for your comment.

[@SheepDog1974]

@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith sir. You have been indoctrinated by John Calvin's understanding of theology... You are therefore a Calvinist. Labels matters. Jesus died for all. Everyone is capable of responding to the gospel. If you disagree. Then you are calvinist.

[@andrewwright9960]

Genesis is a proven myth. A God does not have goals a problems. Christianity is redundant. If we live in a broken world why couldnt Jesus fix the entire world rather than saving people who beleive a ridiculous resurrection story. It's all human effort. Reason we have 1 God today is because it was decided by a council. 1. God of the bible cannot fight it'd own wars. 2. Cannot spread its own message by itself. 3. Cannot give directly to humans. 4. Needs money to operate. 5. Is jealous and insecure. Christianity has all the recipes of a scam. It's been humans all along. So god wants us to beleive a extraordinary story but forgot to leave extra ordinary evidence. People are smarter now. The lie is all falling apart. Christianity survives off of things that are unverifiable. The things that are verifiable disprove Christianity.

[@jamesjohnson-qn7el]

I don't want to devide over the subject but a concern I see is that a Calvinism view point can be a source of torture for a person with a oversensitive conscious, thinking that they may not one of the chosen. Also the warnings in scripture really have know meaning in a Calvinism view point

[@ndudujohn345]

Try new lines. These ones are tired.