Dr. Brown Debates Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on Isaiah 53

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Dr. Brown Debates Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on Isaiah 53
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[@LFTV]

Here is the link to the full debate! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWrOipuAfbmdrqc

[@johnalexander4940]

Dr Brown showed so much love ❤ to his brother, that it really changed my outlook on how I treat others despite my differences in beliefs. Glory to God in Jesus name

[@sokoyagbemiga8412]

What I see in Isaiah 53 is explaining how Jesus became our Goat of Departure and Sin offering.this wasn't in your debate at all.. Prove to me through Jesus dying on the cross became goat of departure and sin offering at the same time. How he fulfilled the law. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2LLpnmbZadqpKM

[@sokoyagbemiga8412]

@@iyaskelu7173 sir, terms such as NASA used to explain the Goat of departure in Leviticus 16 can't be accepted to explaining sin offering Jesus Christ our Lord did on the cross. Jesus became our Goat of departure and went to the desert carrying our transgression the desert when baptised by John. That's why he could forgive sins before going to the cross. The part of atonement His death fulfilled according to Leviticus has little or nothing to do with him taking care of our transgressions

[@user-dv9tk8sd9l]

It is so funny that personal pronoun can be used to denote country. Can a country, Israel be a man of sorrow? Isa 53:6 " ....the Lord *has laid on him the iniquity of us ALL* ". Isa 53:8 For He was cut off from a land of living..."" Israel(a country) cannot be cut off from *a land* . It doesn't make sense.

[@Kaleb.Torah.mitzvot.]

Rabbis are depressed cause they don't have the sacrifice of atonement from sin. To sacrifice a lamb was an act of repentance not a "sorry for that" speech. Rabbis can not erase the Torah fact that sacrifice is needed, even God says that obedience is more important than sacrifice, but still, sacrifice is a basic tool for the finalization of forgiveness.

[@ruthhayes2942]

I'm now 68 years, I've accepted Jesus as my Saviour at 8 years. In Jesus Mighty Faithful Name AlleluJah ... Jesus died for my sins. Amen. 🎉❤ I'll enjoy my Study on Isa. 53: Tku, for GODs Word 🙏🛐🎉

[@Morethangood.]

Amen wow ❤️✝️🫶

[@mrs.fightnight3543]

Amen

[@nongwadbniah2262]

​@prophetmuhammad8744Psa 44:11 Thou hast given us like sheep appointed for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen. Psa 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter. These verses clearly points to the Israelites as sheep to be slaughter.. truly they are the suffering servant.

[@yosefyahu4778]

After hearing Shmuley, I now understand more than ever the statement: "We have no king but Caesar!" Orthodox Judaism adheres to traditions and fables rather than the Truth of the Almighty as witnesses in scripture. Simply astonishing!!

[@VFXShawn]

Rabbinic Judaism and its followers love to think they are righteous and good men, Jesus makes them acknowledge their sinfulness, and so they hate him, just as Jesus said, for testifying their deeds (even their best deeds) are filthy rags to a holy God. It is despicable that they would use their platform to denounce their own Messiah.

[@Setaishafree]

“Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.” Mark 7:8

[@Gutslinger]

Is Othodox Judaism the same, or similar to Rabbinic Judaism? Do all of modern sects of "Judaism" stem from Rabbinic Judaism?

[@yosefyahu4778]

@@Gutslinger pretty much, yes! The Way of the Most High is His way, not man's way, not a "Jewish" way or a Christian way but His Way! The nation of Israel, God's nation of Israel has always been made up of native born Israelites and foreigners who joined into Israel! It's like being an American, you don't lose your racial identity because you are American! Hope this helps!

[@Gutslinger]

@@yosefyahu4778 I've been trying to understand Judaism from a religious or religious doctrine point of view. Because I often hear of "Orthodox" Judaism and "Rabbinic" Judaism, and I see differences in how some dress or practice their religion. I'm just wondering if Rabbinic Judaism is the roots to which all of those modern forms of Judaism stem from. Because from my understanding of what I've heard from Messianic/Christian Jews is that Rabbinic Judaism started somewhere between 70AD and 135AD, after the Romans destroyed the 2nd Temple, sometime during the Bar Kokhba revolt in which there was a major fracture between Messianic Jews and non-Messianic Jews, because the non-Messianic Jews and Rabbi Akiva put their faith into Bar Kokhba as being the Messiah.. Which ultimately failed and lead them being in exile, to Babylon, where Rabbi Akiva was from, I believe. That was a mouthful..

[@RonA0607]

I am from asia and I testify that Jesus is the Messiah and The Son of God.

[@moses2031]

I am from the US and I testify that jesus was a bastard, a deceiver, and a false prophet.

[@marksimons4108]

Amen Ronald👑🔥🕊

[@RonA0607]

@@paulawallace8784 23 and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. Exodus 4:23 KJV God is reffering to Israelites because at this time when He was talking to Moses, Jacob aka Israel is already dead 430 years ago.

[@RonA0607]

@@paulawallace8784 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. Exodus 4:21‭-‬23 KJV Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt. It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations. Exodus 12:40‭-‬42 KJV

[@RonA0607]

@@paulawallace8784 God of the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the Jews, are saving a lot of gentiles all over the world. Israel is the chosen people to be the priest of the the world and Jesus is doing that right now. But you have to remember that God created everyone and is not only for the Jews. This kind of thinking is arrogance which God hates.

[@gospeltrax2513]

The "blindness" that Paul mentions is still very much present today as I have personally experienced a total rejection by Jewish people of any evidence whatsoever that points to Jesus as the Messiah. As Jesus Himself said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t be persuaded even if Someone rises from the dead.’” [Luke 16:31]

[@nathankupczyk3125]

They rejected the evidence without any reason that you say they're blind?

[@omnitrus]

Thank you dr Brown for defending our precious faith!

[@jobinkoshy8197]

We need more debates like these Brown. This one was really good

[@TorahApologetics]

all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua (iezu)

[@dualtags4486]

@@TorahApologetics you said a whole lotta nothing.

[@Kingrich_777]

@@dualtags4486indeed💀truly the definition of a word salad.

[@chuksrichard3598]

@@TorahApologetics Zachariah ch 3 vs 1-5 1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. 2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire? 3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel. 4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment. This Angel is forgiving sins why is that so? Now lets go to Judges ch 13 vs 16-18. When Manoah asked for the name of the Angel, He said his name is a secret, now in Hebrew language, that word means beyond comprehension (pailee, pailai) (Isaiah ch 9 vs 6) so can an Angel say His name is wonderful or beyond comprehension? Reading down to verse 21-22: 21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD. 22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. So again, we see this Angel of the Lord called God.

[@JosiahJavier]

Dr. Brown- thank you. Love your humility and dedication to the truth of the Word of God!

[@TorahApologetics]

all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua (iezu)

[@marijancorluka4500]

​@@TorahApologetics Nice, you turned into a prideful, self-righteous, pretentious, hardened heart person.

[@davidkunda1]

Shmuley’s whole argument was based off of stirring emotions. Brown presented good reasoning and logical arguments.

[@lionofthecherubim4486]

@@openigang The bible never says God is not a man, you cut the verse off mid sentence captain misrepresentation lol. It says "God is not a man, THAT HE SHOULD LIE" That only mean God isnt like men in the specific way that He does not lie. If I say "I did not go to the store, that I may buy you milk" does, that mean I didn't go to the store? Or does it mean I did not go to the store for the purpose of buying you milk? If I say "I am not a husband who cheats" Does that mean I am not a husband? Or that I am not a husband who cheats? Obviously the second one. That you have to misrepresent by cutting that verse of mid sentance says it all.

[@lionofthecherubim4486]

@@openigang In addition, that verse was given prior to the incarnation, and therefore would not contradict the later incarnation of God.

[@lionofthecherubim4486]

@@openigang Exodus 15:3 "The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name" Does that mean God is a man? Obviously not, right? If "God is not a man that he should lie" mean God isnt a man, then obviously "God is a man of war" would mean He is a man, correct? See? Anyone can misrepresent verses to makew them seem as if they mean something that they dont.

[@chiloandchepo]

Angry Jew ... John 844 children of Satan

[@chiloandchepo]

@@openigang John 844 is you

[@gglesucks9462]

One of Rabbi Shmuley arguments is that the Nazis can't be atoned for, yet in Jonah God's is willing to spare Nineveh (Assyrian empire) from their crimes. What were those crimes? Burning children alive, cutting off hands and feet, and skinning people alive before cutting their heads off. I would argue that the Assyrians were just as evil as the Nazis and that God would be willing to forgive those who truly repent.

[@stalker7892]

@@D18.21 Do you understand what original sin is?

[@SaintCharbelMiracleworker]

@@paulawallace8784 It wasn't "A" mistake, it was "THE" mistake. Adam and Eve were created with free will. From the moment Eve used her free will and believed a Bad Angel evil entered and corrupted God's creation who were originally created without sin. Eve and Adam disobeyed God. Mary believed a Good Angel Archangel Gabriel and she obeyed God. Mary's YES to God undid Eve's NO to God.

[@fitzy7800]

Ah, that's the key: those who repent.

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker No, it absolutely did not. Mary, atoned for nothing. Mary was a sinner and could NOT atone.

[@SaintCharbelMiracleworker]

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Nobody said Mary atoned for our sins.

[@renlamomtsopoe]

Rabbi Shmuley's opening statement 🤦🤦🤦 what on earth was that?!

[@borupareme4909]

May Out Lord Jesus Christ bless you with healthy and peace Dr Brown.We pray for the peace of Israel Amen alleluiah 🙏

[@2003mikec]

Thank you Dr. Michael Brown! I live in Auburn, Alabama, and there are many in my area that love the Jewish people and pray for Israel! Yeshua is Lord!

[@e_8074]

From the very moment Rabbi Schmuley began to speak, I could discern his deception.

[@shezlinsampson257]

so true...satan couldnt handle defeat at the cross so he stays there deceiving many taking away the atonement of sins like in this debate and islam

[@nathankupczyk3125]

Can you explain what is his deception?

[@alexandralee8889]

All the rabbi did was tug on your heart strings . Great debate . GOD Bless you both.

[@booksquid856]

Funny how when Christians hear the same stuff they usually hear they assume it is good reasoning...and that the alternative is just emotional pleas.

[@yakovmatityahu]

Shabbat Shalom, Glad to watch this video...

[@joeltchouala783]

Great discussion!

[@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489]

This was interesting. Thanks.

[@cptspok]

Dr Brown has been very instrumental in explaining Hebrew Scriptures and steering the debates to logical reasoning and away from emotional appeals..

[@seekers-of-righteousness]

Leading people into messianic Judaism is straight up idolatry. The Israelites are commanded not to leave their Torah and to follow the God of Israel

[@seekers-of-righteousness]

@@D18.21 doesn’t get much clearer than that 🙏

[@enockt6218]

@@seekers-of-righteousness Who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name and what is his sons name? You as a jew can you explain this for me? Proverbs 30:4-5 4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

[@seekers-of-righteousness]

@@enockt6218 I’m not a Jew. I’m a gentile who has found the truth through the jew as per their mandate from Hashem the God of Israel. Not jsus the god of your xtian bible. Gentiles coming to the jew Zecharia 8:23 23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten gentiles from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’” The mandate from God Exodus 19:6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.” The children of Israel bring Gods salvation to the world not the xtian Isaiah 49:6 I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.” The only true word of God is in the tanach. The newTESTament is a test from God deuteronomy 13

[@enockt6218]

@@seekers-of-righteousness Im not sure if you read my comment i ask you explenation of a verse did you see it? Are the children of israel going up to heaven and down and have established the whole world? You gather the wind and water? It does not say children its say his sons name. Proverbs 30:4-5 4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

[@bingo7799]

Dr Brown explains very well.

[@fletchernorwood445]

Absolutely,i totally agree!👍🏾 💯

[@PeytonOver]

There is a veil over their eyes. Jesus will draw those he chooses in time.

[@shivasirons6159]

I was thinking the same thing. Its almost like they get a pass.

[@PeytonOver]

@@shivasirons6159 God is just. I don't think it would be as simple as them getting an Xpress pass.

[@avibenavraham]

Christianity is totally not antisemetic everyone. Christians just say things like “there’s a veil over (((their))) eyes”

[@PeytonOver]

@@avibenavraham do you know who the Semitic people consist of?

[@avibenavraham]

@@PeytonOver antisemitism is a misnomer, it is anti Jewish prejudice

[@Fetsimo]

Dr. Brown's arguments are steeped in scripture while Schmuley's are emotional appeals.

[@robbynealzucker3408]

G_d detests human sacrifice...nobody dies for another man's sins..duet 24_16

[@samuelg1013]

@@robbynealzucker3408 The given verse is not mentioning about sacrifice and only mentions the relationship between a father and son. God order Abraham to sacrifice his Son. It is known that even a lamb can be sacrificed as a substitute for people's sins. The Book of Isaiah, which is also a Jewish book, clearly mentions that this soul is sacrificed for a sin. If this verse is about Jewish people, it will contradict your argument, becsuse why would they be sacrificed for others' sins instead of their own? Additionally, who Isaiah is referring to as "we" and "our" when he mentions grief and healing. Clearly he is also a Jew n his mentioning his people. Isaiah 53 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁴ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. ⁵ But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. … ¹⁰ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

[@mmnsurahman5646]

​@@robbynealzucker3408 Nobody can fullfil Isaiah 53 but Jesus !

[@nathankupczyk3125]

​@@mmnsurahman5646for example which part of Isaiah 53 nobody can fullfil but Jesus?

[@nathankupczyk3125]

Schmuleys argument about opened his mouth, seeing offsprings, how makes sense he atones the sin of Israel, these are "emotional appeals"?...

[@Daily_89]

I was there in the debate in nyc they recently had a few years ago ,it was great …funny and every educational .

[@TorahApologetics]

all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua (iezu)

[@Daily_89]

@@TorahApologetics Jesus was a Jew not a Roman lol even most Jews say this . Secondly we believe in Yeshua because of the prophecies he’s completed . And if it were not the case than why are there over 500,000 Jewish believers in Jesus and growing everyday ? Also let’s not forget that Yeshuas first followers were all Jewish lol. Christianity has Jewish roots Wheather you like it or not . You sound like a hateful person ,maybe you should ask God to help you with that .

[@stevencagle9640]

First of all. The lineage of Yeshua ( Jesus) is obviously Jewish. Its unacceptable and foolish to say otherwise, period. Secondly, you still want to be accepted by YHWH for your own works ( which are filthy rags according to Isaiah) just like Cain. That is true blasphemy There is and never will be any other atonement than that provided by Jesus

[@booksquid856]

@@stevencagle9640 And....oh brother. Lots of Jewish Messiah would-be's in history. Just like lots of candidates in American history. If America were exiled tomorrow, you would find it appalling and unbelievable for someone to tell you that you missed the boat with Ross Perot or MLK or even some other random American name drawn from a hat who supposedly came to help America achieve Nirvana so that she no longer had to offer fireworks on fourth of July. Your very definition of a Messiah is fabricated entirely out of context and opposed to its purpose.

[@nathankupczyk3125]

​@@stevencagle9640we want to be accepted by God by his Mercy. The same atonement which was before Jesus which is repenting works also after Jesus. There is no reason to to believe & trust the NT that they're telling us the truth, there is a reason to say the opposite!!

[@STAMPA_]

If Israel is a woman and or a bride, how come Isaiah 53 speaks of a man? How do Jews not see that?

[@STAMPA_]

@@openigang God calls wisdom “she” in proverbs is it really a female? No. Jesus says he is coming for his bride not his son. I would encourage you to study this also.

[@STAMPA_]

@@openigang you didn’t read my answer to your answer 🤔

[@andys3035]

It's both/and not either or. But I do believe Isaiah 53 to be about Messiah, not Israel.

[@STAMPA_]

@@andys3035 that is my point. It is about a man who is coming as the messiah. This Rabi said Isaiah 53 is “all of the Jewish suffering will bring the messiah”. But Isaiah is clear that it is a man/male who will live a certain life and die. Plus Jesus said he is coming for his bride Israel/the church on his second coming. So both of their interpretations don’t line up with what the Bible says only what tradition told them. Even Jesus said that in Matthew to the Jewish leaders that tradition is more important to them that what the scriptures said plainly.

[@user-vm6qx2mx5z]

@@STAMPA_אמן אמן, אלוהים יברך אותך, בשם ישוע המשיח❤❤

[@davidmathews9633]

LORD please consider healing my cancer and encephalopathy. Also, my faith is suffering due to not knowing if Jesus is from You .please help my unbelief

[@brazenethan5140]

In the name of Jesus. You are healed.

[@noothername6199]

Jesus healed my cousin of stage 4 cancer and my aunt two years later of breast cancer, . ...by his stripes we are healed.

[@efef6853]

What makes you think that Jesus Christ might not be from God? The old testament proves without a doubt that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Read every chapter of the new testament, the word of God will help you see that Jesus Christ is from God. John 17:3 "3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." A 100% raw fruits and vegetables based diet can heal cancer. Look up the benefits of apricot kernels in fighting cancer. Drink distilled water, stop drinking tap water. Tap water is filled with chemicals that can give you all kinds of diseases. Jesus Christ is from God. Believe it, you don't have to doubt. Pray to God to help you see the truth of Jesus Christ. Please read the Bible.

[@duck.7417]

There are no beggars on the streets of heaven. You are either an heir or you aren't. "For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ Jesus." (Ephesians 2:6) "And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him." (Hebrews 11:6) You are currently seated with Christ in heavenly places if you have believed in Him. You have full access to Him. He's the one who invited you in. You're welcome there. It is Christ who brings us into the presence of God Himself. "Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." (John 14:6) You don't have to beg for healing. He already knows your needs, and He is most interested in your health. But above all, He desires your heart, your love, and your affections. He desires a close relationship with you, that is based off of faith in His greatest gift of all to you, His own Son Jesus Christ.

[@erikwolf3479]

Why are you writing a prayer in a youtube comment section?

[@feliperodriguez4187]

Awesome 😎

[@MyChannel-1999]

I love Dr Brown. Jesus Christ bless you

[@mosesaitong]

Shabbat shalom.. from PNG..

[@tashspice1]

So sad, to hear the pride, blasphemy and stupidity of such a smart and respected man. I pray that one day, soon, Our Lord will help the scales off of his eyes and heart. Thank you, Dr. Brown, for sharing the Gospel, with the Jew 1st❣️. Maranatha, to our Savior and King 🙏. I can't wait until Our Lord fulfills the rest of prophecy! Has the rabbi read your book, Not Afraid of the antichrist? Do rabbis know/study prophecy of the New Testament or quran? Btw, do you agree that we're in the fig tree generation? It will be 80 years since '48, in 6 more years. What do you think of the Yehuda Rav Shlomo? They think he's doing miracles. And, an important rabbi said BByahu will introduce him in the near future.

[@allonekingdom]

"In the last days there will be many, who say here he is, there he is, do not go there..." - "to decieve if possible, the very elect..." - Jesus of Nazareth.

[@Golfinthefamily]

Dispensationalism is probably false... it doesn't show up anywhere in church history until 1830... the church isn't a parenthesis in history... and if the rapture is imminent we wouldn't need anymore signs... or are there more things to happen? Which one is it? Also, where in scripture is there a place to justify a pausing or indefinite 69th week of Daniel? Post Millenial or A Millenial seems much much more likely.

[@marksimons4108]

@@allonekingdom AMEN🙏🏻

[@elizabethhardy5577]

Im astonished what is happening today, Jews and Christians are talking together✡️💙✝️❤️Bless you Rabbi , all respect 🫡

[@NatalieAndersonGP]

Love this and wish for more!!!

[@TorahApologetics]

all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua (iezu) **

[@tejbahadurkarki7531]

Rabbi Shmuley has soo much hate inside which has blinded him to see the truth. Thank u for this video Doc. Brown

[@smolderingtitan]

disagreement and a difference in tradition is not hate.

[@tejbahadurkarki7531]

@@smolderingtitan of course it is not but the way he express his disagreement in such manner is hate. its obvious.

[@smolderingtitan]

@@tejbahadurkarki7531 he's mostly expressing pain. I understand that pain as a Jew myself. All you notice is the angry part but you're not noticing where the anger is coming from. Listen to his words. Try writing his words out if you have any interest in understanding.

[@God_is_in_the_details]

Dr. Brown's text-based analysis easily beats Rabbi Shmuley's rhetoric, just as Scripture casts down any argument.

[@noothername6199]

Forever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3:7

[@lifestylemedicinals8692]

Brilliant work, Doc! God bless you in Jesus' name 🙏

[@user-qw1cg9ku5w]

thank you for these hard lessons speach

[@ricomusap614]

It's soo obvious how can they not see?

[@noismill]

Yes agreed! Isaiah so clear so obvious it’s mind blowing.

[@HHSMCJROTC]

God recently taught me that His salvation plan never changed at all, aside from maybe appearance. Maybe this rabbi will eventually see it hasn’t changed and in repenting will trust Jesus. Who knows?

[@allonekingdom]

The whole Bible makes it clear Yeshua is the Messiah they were waiting for. Isaiah 53 is just one of the most obvious chapters. It's a shame really

[@noismill]

@@allonekingdom yes true. From beginning promise given to Adam & Eve then Abraham sacrificing his son, Joseph Moses, David etc were all a foreshadowing of the messiah. I know of certain Messianic Jews who have woken up to the Truth and do believe that Yeshua is their messiah. I’ve even met a few of them. Praise God for removing the blinds from their eyes we hope and pray more Jews come to see who Jesus is.

[@moses2031]

Because it isn't. The word Messiah isn't even mentioned in Isaiah 53 yet all christians assume that he was talking about the Messiah in the chapter.

[@noothername6199]

Jesus said, Unless you have the Heart of a little child, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. Children have humble hearts with no pride in Them.

[@DIBBY40]

A little child doesn't fall down the rabbit hole of scholastic and convoluted arguments about ancient documents. Having a relationship with God can't be that complicated....can it?

[@noothername6199]

@@DIBBY40 Darkness will always fight against the light until Satan is bound. Jesus said, The members of your own household will be your worst enemies because of Him.

[@williamgood8210]

Did you catch how Rabbi Shmuli kept reverting back to the false notion that Yeshua's atonement absolves a "Believer" of all legal, relational and natural consequences. He lost the debate and the constant reverting back to that argument revealed it.

[@williamgood8210]

The Apostle Paul taught that the Government does not bare the sword in vain. There are consequences for our actions. The forgiveness and absolution is between God and man through Yeshua. Praise His Name forever!!!

[@shivasirons6159]

Amen.

[@johnalexander4940]

Dr Browns presentation guarantees there'll be no rematches. Powerful 😮 😮 😮

[@wordassassinhebrews4125]

@johnalexander Amen! Brotha 🔥 ⚔️ 🛡 ⚔️

[@rosaliafeal671]

❤Blessed Sweetly Blessed ❤

[@brianthompson4480]

Dr. Brown, I respect you as one of the leading biblical scholars and biblical teachers at this time in history! Keep up the good work!

[@gwin8463]

😂😂 it's quite funny how rabbi completely takes verses out of context and brag so confidently. Dr Brown as usual obliterates the debate

[@ilservini]

I recommend Dr. Brown Vs. Rabbi Tovia Singer and also Professor Solberg Vs. Rabbi Singer as well

[@silvielovastikova-luck6065]

You debated Tovia Singer too??!! I'm going right there, thank you Mike🎉👍🙏

[@alisterrebelo9013]

Sam Shamoun has said that Tovia persuaded Dr. Brown not to release the video because Tovia got demolished.

[@Gutslinger]

​@@alisterrebelo9013Brown just did another rebuttal video on Singer on the topic of Isaiah 53. And in that video, I believe he said Singer has been refusing to do a debate with him for 30 years.

[@lukekrell5665]

I wonder if Rabbi Shmuley believes that David was forgiven for his murder of Uriah.

[@3luckydog]

Nice..👍👍

[@SaintCharbelMiracleworker]

@@paulawallace8784 BELOW IS THE MESSIAH IN THE JEWISH TEXTS - Jesus is directly descended from David and He meets all the requirements below. He would be both GOD and MAN (Genesis 3 :15; Isaiah 7:14; Isaiah 9 :6-7; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; Micah 5 :2; Zechariah 12 :10; Zechariah 13 :7; Psalm 80 :17; Psalm 110 :1-7) He would bring salvation to the Gentile nations (Isaiah 42 :1-4; Isaiah 49 :1-13) Messiah would come before destruction of Second Temple. (Daniel 9 vs 24-27) Virgin mother/birth - (Genesis 3 :15; Isaiah 7vs14) He would be human (Genesis 3 :15) He would be a descendant of Abraham (Genesis 22 :18) He would be from the Tribe of Judah (Genesis 49 :10) He would be a son of David (Isaiah 11 :1-2; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; 1 Chronicles 17 :10-14) He will live eternally (1 Chronicles 17 :10-14) He would be full of the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11 :1-2; Isaiah 42:1-4; Isaiah 61 :1-2) He would be humble (Zechariah 9 :9-10) He would be gentle (Isaiah 42 :1-4) He would have a unique relationship with God (Psalm 16 :1-11) He would be the son of God (Psalm 2 :7-12; Proverbs 30 :4; 2Samuel7) He would be the Good Shepherd (Zechariah 11 :1-17) He would be born in normal circumstances (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12) He would be born in poverty (Isaiah 11 :1-2) He would be preceded by a herald (Isaiah 40 :3-5; Malachi 3 :1) He would be born in Bethlehem, city of David (Micah 5 :2) He would be seen riding on a donkey (Zechariah 9 :9-10) He would be present 483 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem, after the Babylonian Captivity (Daniel 9 :24-27) He would appear before 70 AD (Genesis 49 :10; Isaiah 7 :14; Isaiah 8 :9-10; Isaiah 9 :6-7; Zechariah 11 :1-17; 1 Chronicles 17 :10b-14; Daniel 9 :24-27) He would be a king (Genesis 49 :10; Numbers 24 :17; Isaiah 7 :14; Isaiah 9 :6-7; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; 1 Chronicles 17 :10-14; Psalm 2 :7-12; Psalm 110 :1-7) He would be a priest (Psalm 110 :1-7) He would be a prophet (Deuteronomy 18 :15-19; Isaiah 61 :1-2) He would be specially trained (Isaiah 50 :4-9) He would remove the curse due to Adam’s fall (Genesis 5 :21-29) He would be rejected at first (Isaiah 49 :1-13; Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Zechariah 11 :1-17; Zechariah 12 :10; Psalm 22; Psalm 110 :1-7) He would only be accepted by a small believing remnant of the people (Zechariah 11 :1-17) He would appear to fail but in fact be successful (Isaiah 42 :1-4) He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11 :1-17) His rejection would result in an attack upon Israel and the scattering of the people (Zechariah 11 :1-17; Zechariah 13:7) His rejection would be followed by the acceptance of a false Messiah (Zechariah 11 :1-17) He would eventually be accepted (Isaiah 49 :1-13; Psalm 110 :1-7) He would be seated at the right hand of God (Psalm 80 :17; Psalm 110 :1-7) He would suffer (Isaiah 50 :4-9; Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Psalm 22) He would be legally tried and condemned to death (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12) He would die (Psalm 16 :1-11; Psalm 22) He would be executed (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Daniel 9:24-27) He would die a violent death by means of piercing (Zechariah 12 :10; Zechariah 13 :6-7; Psalm 22) His death would be substitutionary (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12) His death would result in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (Daniel 9 :24-27) He would be buried in a rich man’s tomb (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12) He would be resurrected (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Psalm 16 :1-11; Psalm 22) He would bring justification to those who believe in Him (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12) He will be ruler of the Gentile nations (Psalm 2 :7-12) He will rule over Israel in the Messianic Kingdom (Psalm 110 :1-7) J Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34 - I will enact a new covenant with the House of Judah

[@moses2031]

Answer: He was! David said to Nathan, “I stand guilty before the LORD!” And Nathan replied to David, “The LORD has remitted your sin; you shall not die" (2nd Samuel 12:13)

[@logicaldude3611]

We have an INCREDIBLE amount of literature from the Second Temple Jewish period. A ton of it. So we're aware of what the Messianic expectations were and the passages they used to look forward to the Messiah. We also have a few examples of "Messiahs" from that period that many Jews followed, even to their deaths... those movements were wiped out quickly. But Jesus? His testimony still survives today and is widespread, all across the world. There's a lot of revisionist history in the Jewish literature since Jesus' ministry, particularly about those passages that Christians use to point to Jesus' foreshadowing in the Hebrew Bible (the same passages Jews used to use to point to the coming Messiah). There's a reason so many Jews turned to Jesus after hearing what he did and examining the Scriptures, it's because they saw and understood his fulfillment of the promises that the prophets gave us. The problem is now, after 2000 years, most serious Jews rely on the Talmud more than they rely on the Scriptures. I'm sure many Jews will argue against that fact, but they know it is true. I would challenge any Jew who is seriously versed in the Scriptures to go and read the New Testament. If you are so sure in your faith and the correctness of your position, go read. It shouldn't threaten your faith if you are so correct. But you might find that the New Testament is written by Jews, sometimes for Jews in particular, and contain all the answers about Jesus that you need to know. Then you can make your decision.

[@catherine8326]

‘Keep that atonement for yourself’: Rabbi, you’re treading on very thin ice 🧊

[@adrianb5496]

Thank you Dr Brown, GOD bless you !!!

[@thesequeiras4003]

Dr Brown is a true man of God

[@DrVarner]

If I’m honest, I’m not sure I’ve seen a debate in which Dr. Brown hasn’t done an amazing job.

[@waseemhermiz7565]

Really? Then, watch him debate a Catholic named William Albrecht and let it be a first for you.

[@gracesalva8428]

It is a problem in heart whoever is stubborn and proud cannot see the truth. I saw a few dabates M.Brown and I can say he did good job thanks God for his salvation and ministry. Sowing the seeds, believing in word of God and making 100 % more..... those are blessed!

[@jrwestler]

What was held by the audience member @ 27:06?

[@mephi654]

The one spoken of in Isaiah 53 *cannot* be the nation, because it was FOR the iniquity of his people that he was bruised, wounded, crushed and cut off. “… for the transgression of my people was he stricken.” - Isaiah 53:8

[@fletchernorwood445]

This was a great debate!! In light of the actual text of Scripture,Dr.Brown's arguments were very compelling.

[@moses2031]

I've studied Isaiah too. 16 times. I do not see how Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah. That wasn't even Dr Brown's argument. His argument was that it's about atonement and it's an individual. But that it's about the Messiah? Why didn't he bother proving that? Is that evident from the text of scripture which doesn't even say the word Messiah in the entire chapter 53?

[@ToLoveGod]

@@moses2031 “Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.” John 16:13 You won’t understand the Bible as God intends you to, unless you come to God in a sincere, humble heart, and ask Him to show you what it really means. It is an intelligent and factual book no matter what, and we all know that. But it doesn’t become a living, supernatural, and amazingly deep and layered book until the Holy Spirit shows you exactly what He meant, personally.

[@moses2031]

@@ToLoveGod So you believe that jesus cannot be seen from the books of the Bible unless we are given some "spiritual" insight?

[@ToLoveGod]

@@moses2031 However you receive correct interpretation, it is a blessing from God, since clearly millions of false interpretations exist. I would lean towards saying yes.

[@moses2031]

@@ToLoveGod Ok so should I accept what every person claims they received through the holy spirit? Should I accept what al the catholic popes and saints said? Should I accept what joseph mormon said? Are you telling me that G-D did not write his word clearly enough for us to uderstand?

[@johnchavez928]

Hahaha loved this Dr Brown kicked butt

[@nancybenson1951]

Dr. Brown you do good to debate with these people. That was extremely difficult to watch the rabbi mutilate Isaiah 53. Do you think people that are so entrenched can change? At any rate it was hard to watch but necessary. I’d say you are a warrior for the truth and your mission to the Jews is needed. Thank you.

[@enockt6218]

In third day Jesus restore us we may live in his presence to glory to the Father. Hosea 6:1-2 “Come, let us return to the Lord. He has torn us to pieces but he will heal us; he has injured us but he will bind up our wounds. 2 After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.

[@nathankupczyk3125]

The Hebrew text doesn't say AFTER two days, it says he will restore us FROM the two days

[@enockt6218]

@@nathankupczyk3125 And the third day ?

[@nathankupczyk3125]

@@enockt6218 is correct translated

[@enockt6218]

@@nathankupczyk3125 Prove my point. That is prophecy of Jesus.

[@nathankupczyk3125]

@@enockt6218 not at all!! "He will restore us FROM the two days" proves that it have nothing to do with Jesus! Do you have any idea what means "he will restore us FROM the two days"?

[@jackmckee8196]

I find Schmuley’s appeal more emotional oratory than exegesis so I’m sad there wasn’t more meaningful debate, where a position was simply defended logically from the context.

[@yaelhobson893]

People with so much pride and entitlement cannot see. Thank you Dr Brown for exposing the spiritual blindness of the Jews through scripture

[@nathankupczyk3125]

Cannot see what? He asked a question, Jesus opened his mouth, he had offsprings, where is the atonement of Jesus for the nation of Israel? What is your answer?

[@johnphilyaw5946]

The book of Ezra talks about turning back to God and repentance.

[@edwardjackson9871]

I don’t understand the rabbi’s thinking. There’s no atonement for Hitlers or Bin Ladens sins because they cross a line, but he says there’s no atonement for his own common sins. Then how does one get into the presence of God? God just forgives some and not others based on how bad the sin was? So little sins don’t offend a perfectly righteous and holy God? It doesn’t make sense.

[@moses2031]

Of course you don't understand cuz you never actually read scripture and instead rely on your man made traditions: Yet he was merciful; he forgave their iniquities and did not destroy them. Time after time he restrained his anger and did not stir up his full wrath. He remembered that they were but flesh, a passing breeze that does not return (Psalm 78:38-39)

[@AncientCornelius-kn7yp]

This is a good point you made. Once a line is crossed there’s no turning back. I feel that line crossed could be subjective. Then who’s going to be forgiven and who’s not?

[@kernlove1986]

I pray The Lord opens his eyes because that alone was terrible.

[@ashleytexidor3861]

“For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.” ‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭17‬:‭11‬ ‭ Yes we do need blood shed. For the forgiveness of sins

[@mariasantanasantana262]

E V E R Y debate Dr. Brown has with a rabbi, the rabbi can never be logical or biblical just full of emotions and sometimes irrational. This is why Dr. Brown wins every time…

[@frankthetank8552]

Something has always died for our sins for without the shedding of blood there is no firgiveness of sins.....bulls, goats, lambs etc but always put on the scapegoat, Jesus now the lamb of God the final sacrifice. Surely a blinding over Israel or how could a dirty gentile like me be saved. Thankyou Jesus

[@moses2031]

Oh really? Then please explain how jesus was allegedly able to heal a paralyzed man if there's no forgiveness without sacrifices?

[@frankthetank8552]

@@moses2031 Jesus is God, he can both forgive sins and heal.....the cross is the ultimate sacrifice that he looked toward and we look back too. But a sacrifice JESUS was always scheduled for you and me and the paralysed.

[@josiahfehlauer]

The distinction in level of revelation of Truth is so stark! Dr Brown bringing the Gospel! So good. Sadly, Shmuely only has natural, national, rational and human reference... because no Holy Spirit. :(

[@gerardojorge7713]

Romans 11 :1-33 Sums up why they can't see nor accept the truth. sums also up how we should pray for them and understand Gods Mercy and Grace to the Israelite's. Truly O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!

[@voidsreturn572]

I’m just wondering why is this video cut?

[@robertboebinger7719]

Blessings to you Dr.Brown and your ministry

[@innovationflow4437]

Shmuley lacks content and appeals primarily to emotional ploys. Dr Brown hinted at this in the beginning, knowing this is his best and only strategy

[@user-qw1cg9ku5w]

i learn from my faults

[@siranthonybrownpodcast]

You cooked him Dr. Brown 🙌

[@marksimons4108]

Tovia singer next!

[@guypilotte225]

It takes the Holy Spirit of Jesus christ to open the eyes

[@juanmaldonado8754]

The passage applies to Abraham Lincoln. Pretty funny.

[@youttb]

Blesphmey

[@YeshuaSaves3]

Amen, Isaiah 53 is about Yeshua 100x over! Also, notice how Shmuley looks to lack Shalom and yet Browns countenance shows the love and Shalom of Christ Jesus. That’s speaks louder than even the facts of Isaiah 53.

[@Ggyoutube1]

Some people just have so much pride

[@diegolaluz9261]

Praise Yahweh Almighty Father's and Yahshua Almighty MessiYah 🙏 HallyluYah Yahweh and Yahshua

[@manuaiipondraken8376]

Nice Debate. I really enjoyed it. The Jews will one day come to recognise the one whom they pearced.

[@user-vm6qx2mx5z]

אני יהודי, ואני מאמין בישוע המשיח, שלום מישראל❤❤❤🇮🇱🇮🇱❤

[@moses2031]

Firstly it's pierced not pearced. Secondly it was the romans who killed jesus not the Jews. Go learn some history.

[@elijahliech8548]

The rabbi is incoherent and purely emotional...he's heart seems to be hardened to the same Gospel he studies. I pray for God to remove the scales upon the eyes of his chosen nation and for all the other nations as well. Praise be to God!

[@Our_Daily_Bread_With_JB]

Good work dr Michael brown

[@shivasirons6159]

24:40. Thats a bit presumptuous, the nations of the world FINALLY came to understand ethics and morality through the suffering of the Jewish people!?

[@MrDeleoco]

Interesting debate 🤔 ONE FOR ISRAEL CHANNEL put out a program titled "Isaiah 53 - is it Israel or Messiah" which clearly shows the contrast of "Israel versus Jesus" being the Messiah✝️ in the ONE FOR ISRAEL presentation everything is put on the table and is very clear who God was speaking of.

[@kevinkingston6488]

B/h , Love Smuely 's passion , makes sense , Good Tidings.......

[@clarekuehn4372]

"If You Believed Moses," new book by Fr. Mawdsley, is awesome on Old and New Testament typology and conversion of the Jews.

[@Krillian777]

Dr. Brown, do you find any of Rabbi Shmuley's particularly compelling? If so, which ones? I'm curious what he thinks about the temple sacrificial atonement system and why that's no longer relevant for Jews today? What changed for the Jews and why does he now feel he no longer needs to atone for his sins? That is, why has atonement shifted now solely to personal responsibility?

[@moses2031]

The sacrificial system only applied when there was a temple. Even jesus agrees with this point: But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ (matthew 9:13)

[@Krillian777]

@@moses2031 I'm not sure I follow. Rabbi Shmuley doesn't believe in Jesus as the true Temple so I'm not really sure why they felt the sacrificial system that served to atone for their sins was no longer necessary after the destruction of the 2nd Temple. Just doing some cursory research, I found that the ancient ritual abruptly came to an end in 70 C.E., when the Romans destroyed the Temple. At this point, what remained of the Jewish population in Judea had to decide how Passover would be celebrated. The task of adapting Judaism to its new Temple-less reality fell to Rabban Gamaliel II, head of the Jewish Assembly - the Sanhedrin. With regard to the Passover sacrifice, Gamaliel decreed that the sacrifice should continue in family homes, with each family sacrificing its own goat or sheep. However, other rabbis believed that the Passover sacrifice, like all the other sacrifices, could only be conducted by the priests in the Temple and that, like the other sacrifices, should not be conducted until the Messiah comes and the Temple is rebuilt. Some Jews followed Gamaliel and continued to sacrifice goats and sheep in their homes on Passover; others didn’t and saw the practice as apostasy. Within about two generations, the practice ceased when the anti-sacrifice camp assumed control and threatened to excommunicate those who practiced it. So, sometime in the second century C.E., Jews stopped the practice of sacrificing baby goats and sheep on Passover. Until recently, that is. But for followers of Jesus, the cessation of the OT sacrificial system makes perfect sense under the New Covenant. When Jesus said if they destroyed “this temple” and in three days He would raise it up, the Jews thought Jesus was talking about the physical temple in Jerusalem, which had taken forty-six years to build. . But John inserts an explanatory comment: the temple of which Jesus spoke was His own body. Thus, we see our Lord identifying Himself as the new and true temple. The old covenant sanctuary was going to be superseded by a new temple, even Jesus Himself, in whom His people are being knit together as a true sanctuary for God (1 Peter 2:4-5). Dr. R.C. Sproul writes in his commentary John, “Christ is the temple, and all men are commanded to come to Him in order to worship and serve the one true God.” But rabbi Shmuley doesn't believe in the new Temple sanctuary in Jesus as means for atoning for sins. If Orthodox Jews no longer maintain the sacrificial system how does Rabbi Shmule believe they can still atone for their sins? My guess is "personal responsibility" but I would argue that this view is very inconsistent with the tenets of the Torah.

[@collybever]

@@paulawallace8784 Prophet Isaiah would not agree with you there. See his commission from God, when He saw God in the Temple in Isaiah 6: Isaiah 6.5 “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.” Then one of the seraphim flew to me with a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with tongs from the altar. With it he touched my mouth and said, “See, this has touched your lips; your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.” See, he did not atone for his own sins.

[@benny-yj7pq]

@@D18.21 Yes Yeshua wants repentance, no sacrifice is needed, for He died for your sins Isa 53:5 (He was bruised for our iniquities); verse 6 (and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all); verse 8 (for the transgressions of My people He was stricken); verse 11 (by His knowledge My righteous servant shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities) verse 12 (and He bear the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors Luke 23:34)) . But Israel is blind (Isa 42:16,18+19; Isa 6:9-13) till the day Yeshua comes back, to restore Israel and opens their eyes (Isa 10:21; 9:5+6).

[@Krillian777]

@@D18.21 First off, I've never seen anyone argue against the sacrificial system of Israel and how that served to atone for the sins and guilt of the people. I just want to make sure I'm following you correctly.....is that what your implying? As for Hosea, "let us render for bulls the offering of our lips....." How? What changed for the Jews that the sacrifice of bulls for sins was no longer needed? Why does the offering of our lips now suffice? I'm not sure I follow how one day sacrifices were needed, but then the next day they weren't? I don't mean this sound sarcastic b/c I'm asking genuinely with much respect- Was the entire sacrificial system commanded directly by God for the Tabernacle and then instituted for the Temple just window-dressing? Simply theater if the offering of our lips in repentance was all that was needed. However, Hosea 3:4-5 and 14:23 make perfect sense if God Himself served as the once and for all sacrifice that the entire Hebrew sacrificial system was pointing to. Through what He did, we now no longer need to offer bulls. Why? B/c Jesus is now the once and for all sacrifice for our sins. We now only need to repent, just as Hosea says, and proclaim that Jesus is Lord. Otherwise, however, the sacrificial system is deemed no longer necessary after the Temple is destroyed? But why? Doesn't that imply that the entire sacrificial system was never really a meaningful and necessary command by God? Was it all just figurative and symbolic? Given the seriousness that God gives those commands surrounding the Levitical system and its offerings and sacrifices and HIs demand for their precise administration (see Nadab and Abihu), I feel all of that couldn't have been just flowery and symbolic, but carried with it heavy significance and importance. Sins required sin offerings (Lev 5-7), and the Day of Atonement served as a culmination day where all sins of the Israelite people were atoned for. If that's the case, how can Hosea shift without irreconcilable differences with the Levitical system? Answer- B/c God sent HIs Son. He is the lamb lead to the slaughter in Isaiah 53 to bear our iniquities. He is what makes it possible to simply repent without a lamb for the sins of an individual Israelite (Lev 6:1-7) or the atoning sacrifices of bulls, goats, and rams (burnt offering) on Yom Kippur (Lev 16). Without The Lamb who takes away the sins of the world, the entire story of the Israelite people and the significance of the Temple is incomplete. Just my thoughts. Cheers.

[@mikeyant2445]

A Gentile Looks at Isaiah 53. From a Gentiles perspective, Isaiah 53 really looks fulfilled in Jesus Christ. 53 is not about the nations acknowledging a misunderstanding about Israel...it better fits the Isaiah Servant narrative, of God's promise of worldwide salvation to the Gentiles. Chap 42 starts with the Servant's great success in bringing salvation to the Gentiles. 49 talks about the Servant bringing salvation to the Gentiles,, and both calls Him Israel, and distinguishes Him from the nation of Israel in the same way a leader of people both represents the people and is other than them. 52 ends with the Gentiles being surprised at this Servants suffering, and 53 explains the purpose of His suffering being an almah, a guilt offering that atones for our sins, and brings forgiveness and righteousness to us. 55 identifies the One Who brings this salvation to the Gentiles as Messiah, and tells all mankind, Gentiles and Jews to repent and seek the Lord, and we will be forgiven. If I didn't know one word of the New Testament, I would recognize this theme as being obviously fulfilled in history, the worldwide rise of Christianity, started by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ for our sins, His resurrection; and the viral expansion of the Church.

[@innovationflow6072]

Im actually really disappointed, i was hoping shmuley would bring real challenges, but his arguments were so weak it's pathetic.

[@Maddog_Mark]

Wow, great job Dr Brown!! Amen

[@rockytopbritt]

Okay I honestly have a hard time listening to this guy. His theatrics grate on my nerves, so I mean this as a serious question. Is he unaware that the OT describes the people of Israel rejecting God and being punished for it? Every snippet I hear he is describing Israel suffering for being so righteous. Does he think God broke his promises at the end of Deuteronomy?

[@johnbetter919]

Who, you are referring, Dr or Rabbi???

[@ppac300]

I wish Rabbi Shmuly revisit this debate. He really flunked on this one.

[@UltimateTruthsAndWorldviews]

so lacking of grace.

[@boliussa]

@@UltimateTruthsAndWorldviews Shmuley is not smart enough to even know he lost.. Both Rabbi Shochets would get really annoyed with him!

[@Mark4Jesus]

This “Rabbi” is super good at twisting things.

[@hay_Z2021]

He definitely is, wolf in sheep's clothing,

[@user-mk1nx5hr1k]

I feel so sorry for this Jewish man, and for any who agree with his point of view. I can see he harbors much hate. It was most evident when he described people who murdered others. He yelled there is no forgiveness or atonement, for those who kill the innocent. Then that would mean King David would have never been forgiven for sending his friend to the Frontline to die, so King David could take his wife. So basically the Jewish teacher speaking would say King David is in hell for his horrific murder of his friend. But that is not the truth.King David is in heaven with God our Father and The Risen Lord Jesus. Blessed are those who's sins are paid for by another. Ty Yeshua for your great Love

[@hay_Z2021]

Right exactly! And Saul wouldn't have became Paul if it wasn't for christs atonement,

[@jophilpedrita384]

This Rabbi sounds like he is doing an oration back in the highschool

[@teddyrascal6305]

As a gentile, i am thoroughly enjoying thorough thursday.

[@D.W.C935]

I am a Gentile Believer too.

[@chiloandchepo]

Who is more angry.

[@EasyDriver891]

MY precious precious precious precious LORD JESUS died for my sins and for all of those who will accept Him. "Man of Sorrows. what a name, for the Son of GOD Who came, wounded sinners to reclaim, Alleluliah!! What a Savior!!!!!!!!!!!. His Jewish relatives still hate Him though He has done no wrong. They hated Him then, they hate Him now. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"

[@FocusOnMessiah]

Phewwwww getting chills every time Dr Brown proclaims scriptures about Yeshu’a our Lrd

[@borneandayak6725]

Dr. Brown won the debate. He give more references, evidences and more deep in interpretation than Rabbi Shmuley.

[@PrabinGolapi-ji4bf]

Michael is super in his presentation.

[@Webin4rm]

Understanding Isaiah 53

[@BelovedLuke]

Lk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.