What You Should Know Before Buying A Gen 3 Ford Raptor | 1 Year Owner Review

[@Egonzales85]

This is why I strongly agree in being the 1st owner of raptors.

[@y5mvbc]

I believe that sound you cant figure out is the Vehicle Timing Actuator. Over a short amount of time it can become defective and rattles upon cold starting especially when its severely cold outside to boot when the top end of the motor is dry. Once the oil starts moving around the Actuator. It shut right up. Hope this helps.

[@mikeprice8307]

Is it harmful and needed to be tended to?

[@InMaWi]

If you get an answer please let me know

[@rayreggie03]

I have a 19 Raptor. I 100% agree that it's wonderful for long road trips.

[@vettepilot427]

I love my gen 2. I’ve considered trading up to a Raptor R, but I have 86k miles on a 2019 and the gas mileage and insurance cost is a deal breaker for me. I’ve had ZERO warranty issues, just change the oil and fit new tires. Thanks for the honest review!!!

[@tedbear6012]

Whats the mpg in your truck? I'm considering getting a gen 2 over a new dmax zr2

[@vettepilot427]

@@tedbear6012 I have a tune on my truck, front mount intercooler, and aftermarket wheels and tires (slightly wider/taller tires 35” x 12.5” x 17”). I just checked yesterday and my running average is 16.6 mpg. That’s a 50/50 mix of highway (my work commute is 35 miles one way) and around town. When my truck was stock, I want to say my average was about 17.5 mpg. When stock I would sometimes see over 20 mpg highway. That’s great to me considering that my 2016 TRD Pro 4Runner wouldn’t get 17 mpg and that engine and powertrain was very underpowered. Also, I didn’t have to run premium on the stock tune, but I do with the tuner installed. The Dmax ZR2 is going to be better on fuel and the ZR2 is a great truck (my daughter stole my gas one when she turned 16). The Raptor is more fun to drive (the Dmax is pretty slow) and has a lot more interior room if that matters. However, the ZR2 rides and handles just like a Raptor and is easier to live with around town. You realize how wide the Raptor is every time you park it. Hope this helps.

[@dimitriosmalatches5522]

I have had a Raptor SVT for 12 years 2011 no problems. I don't like these fancy technologies now, to many problems.

[@TờThiênđạithánh]

How much is the insurance? I’m looking into buying a gen 2 raptor

[@gokufighter21]

So ive got one of the highest mileage 3rd gens out there... 31,000 miles and bought it back in sept 2021. First one sold in VA. It has caused me 0 issues and has been an amazing road trip and off road truck.

[@stoppardstop]

26,500 on mine, also bought in sept 2021......trouble free only exception being drivers seat moves a little when turning, but covered under a tsb. Everything else flawless!

[@theNfl_Esq]

@@stoppardstopI’ve got a Gen 2 ‘17 and it’s been great but I’m getting close to 86k miles so thinking about trading up for a 20, 21, 22 or 23. Recommend the Gen 3 and any particular year?

[@stoppardstop]

@theNfl_Esq def recommend the gen 3. 2021 was the first year, but i put 35 miles on mine with few issues. Now i have a 23 and 8k and no issues. Gen 3 smooth like butter

[@theNfl_Esq]

@@stoppardstop appreciate the response. Going to check 1 out this week.

[@theNfl_Esq]

@@stoppardstop curious where you driving to/from? That’s a lot of miles. I love mine it’s great for the potholes and freeways under construction in and around Houston. Those shocks aren’t just for Baja

[@julianverhun861]

I have a gen 3 since September 2021 , already have 35k miles on it. I also had the same issues with the battery and found the truck dead in the morning. The problem is the truck gets a software update randomly and it drains the battery. It just needed a jump and the battery charged and it’s been good ever since, it didn’t needed a new battery. Besides that no issues at all

[@Alex-mw9un]

Love it. Just bought a used 22 with 801a package 34k miles. Pumped for all the fun down the road!

[@BurnsyTrades]

Looking to get a used one soon, have you ran into any issues?

[@Alex-mw9un]

@@BurnsyTradesnope. It’s been awesome. My wife even loves it. Get one.

[@johnlexus1]

I love mine, in rough canadian road the raptor is so much fun and comfy like a cadillac

[@vhayne91777]

I was so torn on the Raptor vs TRX decision. I went back and forth for months. I had previously owned 2, 1st gen raptors and loved them. But the lack of a big V8 was really weighing on me. I test drove a TRX and I thought it was awesome. But I just wasn't crazy about the way the truck itself looks (the stance/presence is great though). Well, I found a new 2023 Avalanche Raptor, and just bought it without even driving it. Yes, I know...that was stupid. But I was sold on the look of the truck vs the TRX, still dumb to do that lol. Let me just say....I am IN LOVE with this V6! I love the way it revs, the way it shifts, the way the power is applied, and I really love the sound (I'm sure there's some fake stuff there, but I don't care haha)! I am just so surprised by this engine. I was so disappointed at the lack of a V8 option on the Raptor aside from spending 160k for the R. It almost kept me from buying this amazing truck. All of that worry and back and forth....for nothing. The Ecoboost is sweet.

[@Glorious117]

Would you buy a Raptor R for MSRP if you could?

[@vhayne91777]

@@Glorious117 Absolutely.

[@DarkSleuths]

​@@Glorious117who wouldn't lol

[@SkyWarmer]

Trx build quality is deplorable

[@rrvillegas]

This may have been covered (too many comments to sift through) but Ford worked with Nissan for the exhaust and it does come from a GTR. So good catch! Lol

[@Elguiloto1]

This is the best honest and nice video I have seen on a raptor thank you sir

[@kouzmanoff]

One of the most common symptoms of the 3.5L Ecoboost engine cam phaser problem is the notorious cold start rattle - LPT: before buying a used v6 eco? make sure you hear it start on a cold day, ymmv which fix ford/dealer actually works - the noise/problem usually starts between 30k and 45k miles.

[@meshuggah921]

I believe ford fixed the cam phaser issue in 2020. I know the waste gate linkage rattles a little on cold starts but goes away shortly after starting. The linkage doing that doesn't cause any harm.

[@kouzmanoff]

@@meshuggah921respekt.

[@BCmld83]

3rd issue, check the brake pad hardware clips. If the clips are worn out the pads will rattle & it’s obnoxiously loud. My pads were rattling, replaced the clips & waalaa, back to new. $10 fix for a $1000 sound.

[@damiencargal8458]

Appreciate the insight, I’m considering one of these in the next year and this video helped me out a bit, keep up the good work!

[@christopherniewola7784]

I really appreciate your Honesty, Can't wait to see u Rip up a Raptor R!!

[@codename7832]

It might be exhaust rattle, which is a known issue on Gen3. I believe the dealer should know about it. Clunking sound is probably your shock. Also, a known issue on Gen3. Many people got their back shocks replaced.

[@josiahwilliams752]

Why would an exhaust rattle only happen on cold start?

[@codename7832]

@@josiahwilliams752 i believe it has something to do with some clamps that dealer replaces. I know there is TSB for Exhaust Rattle on Gen3's.

[@josiahwilliams752]

Yeah but wouldn’t be a consistent thing if it were a part that were loose or faulty? 🤷‍♂️

[@codename7832]

@Josiah Williams ones warm metal expends, most of the time rattle stops. There was the same issue with Wastegate Rattle on Gen2 Raptors. The Ones truck was warm enough you couldn't hear it.

[@josiahwilliams752]

@@codename7832 but it’s just a clamp

[@jayc4715]

Be nice if the raptor had power running boards,and massaging seats like the other higher trim Ford trucks

[@ryanpratt723]

I think it's the bypass line on the Fetzer valve. You just need some pliers and set of 30 wt ball berings.

[@jerrytaylor2743]

Just got my first one an man I’ve been missing out! Love it

[@HughRussell06]

Speaking of Mike, you should go back to his farm with the danger ranger and jump it

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

that sounds safe

[@justinpimentel8569]

Agree change oil make it offroader

[@amibookovza3118]

No such luck with my 2020 f3507.3 gas lol @ 500 miles valve train #8 cylinder rocker broke and now 25k miles transmission failure to a point it has to be replaced or fixed

[@edwardstroko4665]

@@amibookovza3118 damn bro!!!!!😢

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

He should try to jump the Allegheny River with the Raptor in remembrance of Robbie Knieval

[@elmerfrejoles98]

For $85K bucks US Ford Raptor equals 2 brand new PH Ford Raptors in Gray & White colors! That's more aFordable for me & my wife. We each have a Raptor to drive with. Thanks for showing man.

[@fozzybear9114]

Awsome looking truck. Seems like ford quality is lacking as of late?

[@azraell33]

I bought a new Gen 2 Raptor in December 2016. I had the complete engine replacement at 20k. It was knocking and the dealer said it was an oil pump failure. The sunroof track had to be replaced at 21k. My extended warranty didn't cover all of it and I had a few hundred out of pocket. I rarely even used the run roof, which really chaped my butt. At 40k the rear end started wining and had to have it repaired. At 50k the transmission started shifting hard and clunking when I put it in drive or reverse from park. The dealership reprogrammed it and charged me $300 because the extended warranty doesn't cover software. I sold it at 55k, and dont regret it. In the 5 years I had the truckt I had more issues with it than the three new F150s prior. I never tuned my truck or took it off road. As much as I like their looks, I dont think I will buy another Raptor.

[@jason7830]

With all fords quality issues they have been leading me towards tbe new gmc sierras. Love the at4

[@HellcatDreaminJosh]

AutoVlog Great Video I'm glad you and your wife have had a great year with her Gen 3 Raptor and I can't wait to see your Raptor R on the Channel

[@kristianlundell616]

Good 1 year review. The rattling noise from the engine at cold start, could be the oil. Hydraulic lifters and thick cold oil combo. Also if level is under half on the oilstick, can start make noise for sensitive ears. Keep up the good work Micke.

[@jay1182]

Cam phasers your engine needs replacement check the car wizards videos about f150

[@meshuggah921]

​@jay1182 I think ford fixed the cam phaser issue in 2020. That sound on cold start usually happens with the waste gate linkage for like 10-30 seconds, then goes away

[@dchex23]

The clanking sound on cold start is common to Ford trucks and are nothing to worry about. Its a waste gate making that noose.

[@DirtyBeemer1]

Man that’s just crappy luck you got literally the top 3 Gen3 issues 1. Exhaust rattle 2. Battery/drain 3. Squeaky shock

[@delschutz1312]

You might want to have your exhaust manifold checked. Mine had a broken screw that would let the manifold vibrate on cold start, and when the engine heats up the metal expands and it stops.

[@tylerherriage6003]

That rattle in the cold start is the muffle valve. Ford replaced my entire muffler on my gen 3.

[@Nate-zy5ce]

Beautiful looking truck. It's now mid June, 2023. Do you think any or all of those issues you noticed have been resolved by Ford by now?

[@Hrod442]

The noise with cold start is the Cam Phasers, the dealer has a fix. It's covered under the power train warranty.

[@jordanpyke4109]

All the raptor fan boys said they fixed the cam phaser issues in the third Gen.

[@anglersedge11]

The computer chip shortage caused a lot of issues in the Covid year trucks in all companies. My 2021 Lariat had some of those same issues and it’s those crappy computer chips

[@mikeprice8307]

This was a great review! Thanks for being honest!

[@MrChris-gx4lv]

Sweet truck man I love the look. Beauty is in the shuttle details. I heard you say you live in or near Pittsburgh, I live near Youngstown, Ohio about an hour North of you and I own a Gen II that I purchased about 2.5 years ago. I have done a number of upgrades such as the Garrett Powermax Turbos and of course all the supporting mods to go with them ie: intercooler, all piping, 3” downpipes, full 3” exhaust, throttle body, cold air intake and so on. I also run the PRX 93 tune from MPT Tuning out of Florida. They have featured my truck on their Instagram page and also it was on the cover of the 2022 American trucks, spring edition parts catalog. I’m honestly not being full of ego and I hope you don’t think that I’m just trying to describe my truck accurately to you because I really like yours and proximity wise we don’t live that far from each other. I’m always looking to check out other guys trucks and let them check mine out so to speak so if you’re interested in maybe meeting up sometime, let me know please. - Micky

[@manolocordovez9323]

your catalitic converter is broken for sure, my Ford sounded like rocks bouncing around inside a canister, but it can be a losen catalitic converter shield on some cases as well. The cat will go bad if you have a faulty oxigen sensor, you may connect a computer to the OBD2 port and check the levels of the O2 sensor if the cat is bad, becasue changing the cat without changing the faulty sensor, it will go bad again.

[@coreyyancey9272]

19 mpg on highway with my gen2...all stock. On 93 octane About the same as my v6 Tacoma

[@lesstarling9806]

Really like your videos!....I have a Gen 3 and love it (1 yr anniversary too) I noticed the same rattle and found that when you put the exhaust in sport mode it went away instantly, otherwise it went away when it warmed up. ....Thanks again for the content!!

[@jerrytaylor2743]

Great review about to get mine this week I’ve had on order for 15mos. Excited

[@CreampieSamuri]

Cap! My gen 3 has averaged 15.8 over 8k miles, without babying it all the time.

[@nicklewis2734]

Mike, you need to have a company called Mike’s Customs because you really know how to custom out vehicles. I remember the c63 you had and all the vehicles you have had and put upgrades on them, they look outstanding. Keep up the good work..

[@reggiemurphy7028]

I love your videos. I'm looking forward to the 2023 Raptor R. I just bought a used 2021 F-150 Shelby Super Snake for $87k. And I can't decide if I should make content with it?

[@user-vw5je5qo2r]

Mike, We have the exact same truck Color and all.... I have one year of ownership and 10k on the odometer and can't say I've experienced that. second day of ownership I got a check engine light lol, turned out to be a bad $50 wire harness in the engine bay. Other than that, she's been good to me......I do average 13.1 mpg's, so Yeah not great on gas. I do Love her though.

[@ACRBunny]

Is it just me or do the front and rear bumpers look like they don't actually match the leadfoot grey?

[@cold-lifestyleprepper3080]

Love the truck and the reason the shifter folds down, is so the workman's center console can fold out flat.....you should know that

[@rescuedandrestoredgarage]

This is the sound that our Ford FMF expedition made and the same location for us it was the cad, we got it replaced, and the noise was gone. Hope that helps, brother 🙏.

[@sh4ne-]

The European mind simply cannot comprehend this truck

[@boldgold3885]

I have the GEN three raptor and absolutely love it . ❤❤❤ eco-boost. . I get 14.4 miles per gallon in town and I drive it is there a naturally aspirated V8 that gets that good of mileage pumping out 450 hp and 510 foot pounds of torque? ??

[@EddieCamacho-m5s]

We had the same issue with the batter on our bronco. Ford tech told us that he dealt with that same issue in 4 other broncos this year.

[@ryangrady3880]

The engine noise might be the timing chains. I had a similar issue on a 2019 lariat 3.5 EB. The chains went bad. Dealer replaced them under warranty, no issues

[@coryhielo4001]

The shock issue is a fox issue, mine came with 4 that needed replaced straight from factory

[@nicholas440]

Fox suspension is very maintenance heavy. Any off-road suspension will need rebuilding more often

[@grantchristensen9995]

that Noise sounds like cam phasers you better try get those fixed while its under warranty also after market oil pump can help pump oil quicker when its cold Cam phasers cost 5k to fix

[@1lifeasis]

That sound your hearing is a broken off piece of your catalytic converter rattling inside your pipe. Had it happen before.

[@DefinitelyNotYouThankGod]

Painting all the parts looks great! Always love the Content. 🎉

[@ECHO-Gaming]

Just found your channel a few weeks ago as I was shopping for an F150. Brought home my new F150 Lariat today! Really excited about it. Trying to decide if I want to go with a Leveling kit and 33's or a 6" lift with 35's. Thanks for all the videos. I have binged so many.

[@jordanblais6260]

I got a 6in on my f150 w 35s and absolutely love it but is slightly rougher ride

[@ECHO-Gaming]

@@jordanblais6260 What type of offset are you running?

[@jordanblais6260]

@@ECHO-Gaming -18

[@truthserum5310]

I did a 6" on my FX4 with 35's. While it looks great, ride is definitely rougher, steering radius is increased. If I'm being honest, if I had to do it again, I probably wouldn't. Too compromised for my daily driver driving style.

[@johngranlund4195]

That cold start/cold weather noise you are hearing is most likely the waste gates rattling on the turbos. It's a known common issue on the ecoboost motors and ford says it's "normal". Another guy on KZbin shows how to fasten a spring to the outside of the waste gates and it solves the issue. Literally a 5 minute, no tool, job.

[@b9307893]

Normal means... Not functioning to plan, won't break right away, just right outside the warranty period.

[@corpflyboy]

Finally! someone posted the most correct reason for the cold start noise.

[@jeromerusselldemusicologist]

Yet another awesome video from Mike Hope you're doing great Mike? Been like forever!!!

[@dogwatr6500]

the rattle is the waste gate! completely normal. i am a tech at ford and people come in all the time worried about this!

[@romangallardojr]

I have a 2017 mkz 2.0t. My vehicle makes that exact sound when the battery is drained, and I try and start the car. Once the battery was replaced, everything went back to normal

[@MS-mr4zm]

All your little issues? That’s why I’m happy w/ my last of the run late build 2020 Gen2, I’ll get a gen3 in 2026 as a last model year too once all the BA kinks are worked out

[@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0n]

Always love ur uploads.

[@Bmg009]

The rattles you’re hearing is them trying to contain all the rainbows 🌈 it took to build it.

[@hankypanky00]

Waste gates/ link arm on turbo son that's what that cold start sound is

[@MobileFordTechJosh]

There’s a FSA or TSB for that noise. With Ford sounds like the Transmission Pump

[@edwardmtl]

I had the eco boost....I had a 2020 raptor and it was burning oil like crazy....I sold it because of it

[@Dead-bl7to]

That rattling is the cam phasers and they will be going soon.

[@RaceLabMT]

the new raptor R is coming out soon!!! with the v8 is coming back hopefully

[@bluedog373]

In America torque wrenches are marked in ft lbs. Engine torque is in ft. lbs.

[@blackoutkr8183]

your wheels I noticed that the spokes go with the flow on the passenger side but against the flow on the driver side 😱🤯🤯🤯

[@35Zeuss]

Still looks good, clean package.

[@MS-mr4zm]

How much heavier are the wheels/tires you’ve added? I had a 2018 & now a 2020 & over 85k miles between the 2 I averaged 14.8 overall, & that’s w/ getting on it regularly, towing 2 waverunners in the summer a lot, carrying around 2 kids 2 dogs & wife & all their stuff regularly, & they were both tuned….something’s effecting your mpg my bet is it’s the heavier wheel/tire combo & maybe even the level

[@vickram5492]

Why aren’t you uploading anymore Mike!!?!!??? Get it together brother!!!

[@tresantangelo301]

What is everyone's take on the F150 Tremor?

[@bradpowell843]

They really are nice trucks but the Raptors suspension is superior. I have a Tremor for my business as a daily and a 23 Raptor as a personal truck. Really like both but the Raptor is another step up.

[@john-bs8pt]

That's a boring dull grey....but im glad you like it. It's just a shamed every truck cost way too much .

[@BrianBurgnone]

The cold start noise. I just saw a video , which referred to a pin being sheared off in a pulley on the engine. Sorry I don't remember the description, but it is an apparently an issue with the 5.5l.

[@ThaRealBummyDavis]

I feel like anybody that owns a new truck is never gonna actually use it for it’s intended purpose. They’re amusement parks now made for families

[@ferasateyah9781]

The noise at 6:02 it's actually was in the ford expedition 2013 before I selling it but it never come before turn on the switch I don't know what was that but I heard some one say that because the air conditioner from the third seats next the speaker over there something you have to renewal or thing like this I did nothing about it because I asked if that making a future issues they said no you have nothing to worry about.........

[@gregshelton8118]

My 2022 Powerboost makes that same odd rattling sound and really only noticed it when the weather got cooler like below 50.

[@skolvikings9244]

First problem is exhaust rattle , 2nd it does look in the video like you hit hard on the right rear . I’m not making excuses for it but it did look like you hit right rear harder then the rest , so the weight all went on that shock .

[@rurk7943]

It sounds good to me its a 6 it is what it is I have a ranger raptor being smaller it makes sense but i guess with a full size F150 people expect to here a v8 rumble

[@TyFenwick]

Sounds like shock bearings mike, no sure on US raptors but Fox shocks run bearings instead of bushes. 🤙🏼

[@blueplanet1048]

Guys I have a choice of getting a raptor or the TRX. The raptor R is way over priced. I can get a bit used TRX for few $k more than a raptor v6. What you guys think? The TRX has a monster engine which makes me wanna get it but I do like the raptor look.

[@justindhitchcock1806]

Hey, thanks for the video very informative. I think I’ll stick with my F150 lariat though I got it fully loaded. They couldn’t put another part on the truck. I was a little startled because I was on the highway and it told me to take a coffee break which I thought was pretty funny.i have a 2015 magnetic gray f150 super crew lariat fx4 i coated the frame for nasty New England winter 😊

[@A.ChristopherJohnson]

Great video bro !! Congrats !!!

[@garthgeitz2724]

Can't wait for. RAPTOR R

[@jamiestaniforth9474]

Its the transmission noise when the engine is running Mike.

[@Thexcalibur]

Thanks for this man

[@nikoleigraham8747]

Dude your videos are inspirational to me. You give me the hope that one day I will be able to leave Europe, get to America and finally be able to enjoy my car hobby. Things in Europe are getting worse every day. Car tax was bad and now they just passed a law making it higher. Really depressing stuff over here. Gas is more expensive thanks to new laws. Monthly car tax went up. Parking is virtually impossible now.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

If you're White we would love to have ya

[@nikoleigraham8747]

@@Christoph-sd3zi Which state would you say is the easiest to own a sports car in regarding laws, taxes and so on? Dude a V8 Mustang where I live costs 80K after taxes and then you must pay 500 Euros (because high horsepower) a month every month just in taxes, you still have to pay insurance on top of that. Gas in Europe is double the price of that in the US too. Its crazy.

[@mazensholakh9529]

Really nice truck. What kind of wheels are those ?

[@ctozzi123]

I think i'll get a trx instead as the R is just too dam much, thanks for a great review

[@michaelnaumann1792]

Really wanted a Raptor, but couldn’t get behind buying an 80k truck without a V8. Ended up going with a TRX. The Raptor R is an amazing truck, but it’s about 50k over MSRP. RAMS interior is a lot more superior to fords. Just the screen alone. Sad this world is going to V6 truck engines and electric cars. Glad RAM still kept the norm and is continuing to selling the V8s in their trucks.

[@jordanpyke4109]

Hemi is dead bud sry. No more V8s

[@atharsami]

Good practical advice on Raptor Gen 3

[@barclay405]

I have a 21 raptor also the noise you hear when you start it is the exhaust valve behind the muffler, mine goes away after it warms up.

[@connectheezdots]

So what would you suggest… Gen 3 STD Or Gen 3 R? With knowing everything? I’m leaning towards the R. But I wanna hear some negatives of why not to do it.

[@bradpowell843]

If your not putting a ton of miles on it go with the R.

[@TBagr]

Well the R is going to be 50k over sticker, if you can find one

[@connectheezdots]

@@TBagr That’s true, but I don’t believe it’ll be that way for much long.

[@truthserum5310]

I see a first gen Rivy in your Avatar? I own a 65 Rivy, a 99 Rivy, and an 87 Grand National. Just saying hello.

[@sonnybunny2305]

That cold start sound is the oil pump

[@maverick042121]

The sound you hear on cold start sounds similar to a loose heat shield on the exhaust. Fords design seems to have issue.

[@jtalonrider4769]

What happen to this guy he doesn't. Post videos now that much

[@rebeccamoran5382]

Just watched the video great video as always

[@mesapainting769]

The rattle is the exhaust valve in. Ford says they do t have a fix for it yet. Mine rattles all day everyday.

[@boostedboxer]

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