What you should KNOW before buying a JEEP Grand Cherokee ZJ

[@paulabes4220]

My ZJ is a 96 Laredo. It has the 5.2 v8 I swapped out the 249 transfer case with a p231 transfer case with a slip yoke eliminator kit and a Novak conversion cable shift for the transfer case to replace the crappy stock shifter linkage. It has a Dana 30 with 4.56 gears and a ARB air locker In the front. The rear is a disc brake Dana 44A they were strong enough for corvettes so I figured it would work in my jeep with 4.56 gears and an ARB air locker. The suspension is a Rubicon express 4.5 lift short arm kit. Steering is covered by a one ton high steer kit. Steering box brace modified heavy duty track bar and stabilizer. It Rides on BFG all terrain 33 x 15 Ko2 (snow rated) Off road bumpers with a 10,000 lb. winch. It has ARB onboard air comp for lockers and tires and tools. I know there are much better jeeps than mine but it is really comfortable has air it runs great and is great on the highway not noisy and is great off-road. When off-roading with a buddy he jumped out of a f350 into my ZJ and the first thing he said was boy it rode smooth. So this is why I love my ZJ.

[@chicagorc3967]

very nice man, i got a 97 zj orvis with the factory 5.2. Only 998 of my jeep came to america, im just trying to keep mine road worthy.lol Your jeep sounds like a beast!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

I love them as well! Was my first ever car.

[@mcmillinmx6003]

i just picked up a 1995 zj limited with a 4.0 in it for free. Its been sitting for 3 years and ran when it was parked. This video makes me feel better about my find

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Nice!

[@lftdblazer]

Ha, I just got a 98 for 250 bux yesterday. Gotta topend noise, but I'm hoping I get lucky and it's just a loose flex plate bolt. It's pretty worn out though. 278k on the 4.0. Best thing is I think I can double my money.

[@BrandanZmaster]

Glad to hear another one will be on the road soon. These Jeeps are very under rated.

[@gavinthroop2839]

@@lftdblazer I’ve been around a lot of 4.0s, and a majority have a top end noise. I’ve seen ones with barely 100k do it, and my xj with 290k did it. What I’m getting at is I wouldn’t be concerned.

[@lftdblazer]

@@gavinthroop2839 I posted a video of the noise since this post. Also, checked all the common things. It appears to be a rod bearing or a piston skirt. Idk what I will end up doing with it atm.

[@tgfayt]

I own a 94 zj and it has been sitting under a pine tree for over 16 years. I hopped in it, cleared the cobwebs, and it started right up! No issues so far with mine. And I love it!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

awesome!

[@Thatoneshopllc]

"Your kids aren't that tall, and if they are, they shouldn't be in your car right? They should be out of the house." Best line I've ever heard 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

[@RealSteelFabrications]

lol, facts

[@MacsSpecialitiesProperties]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LJG63]

I have a 96 black Limited, Inline six for 12 years now, & I love it. 4 inch lift, 31X50's, black wheels, side rails ( cause I'm short 😃) brush guard, tail light guards, 2 sets of Piaa lights. Magnaflow muffler, tinted windows. Engine bay , & under carriage very clean, interior near perfect, no dents or scratches on body, paint is like mirror black, she purrs like a kitten, & I'll never get rid of my ZJ 🤍

[@OutnBacker]

Another interesting fact about the ZJ is that it was designed and specified by AMC back in 1983 - 10 years before it was actually marketed. They were remarkable for their time when they hit the sales floor and the place went nuts for them. They were the first vehicle completely designed by CAD, which revolutionised the car industry and all other industry as well. That's why when you find a nice one, you will note the very fine body panel and interior alignment and solidity throughout. Everything fits perfectly. The doors shut with the effort required on a Mercedes. No slamming. Although by now, the drivers door might have a worn hinge set. Low road noise, no wind buffeting at the windows or door joins, no squeaks when you try to push the dash panels like on the smaller Cherokee, which had an interior that reminded me of recycled milk jugs and wiggled and sqeaked every time I leaned on it even a little. As time goes on, natural attrition has reduced the number of ZJ's and they are now rising in value because the survivors are likely the better ones. Mine is a one owner creampuff, and except for a 2" puck lift and 30x9.50 KO2's, I'm keeping it street sweet. It has already proved to capable of 80% of anything a $40,000 Jeep can do. The last 20%, I don't care about. I do miss my XJ Cherokee, but I LOVE my 95 ZJ.

[@davidtrevino5211]

People keep trying to talk me out of putting in a 3.5 inch puck lift on my 98 ZJ with 95,000 original .miles on the 4.0 liter engine. What do you recommend?

[@OutnBacker]

@@davidtrevino5211 I don't recommend it for a couple reasons: 1) Your low mileage Jeep is becoming more and more rare as people basically destroy them to make toys. 2) I have learned and seen that pretty much anything over 2-2.5 inches can, and sometimes does, induce the Death Wobble, leading to other mods that you may not have planned on. This is nt limited to Cherokees or vehicles with unibody construction. 3) Even if you don't get the wobble, your other structural members may have to be changed out to accomodate the extra distance that such a lift requires. Longer drive shaft, control arms, etc. I stayed at 2" because I wanted to keep both my ZJ and XJ street sweet, with safe handling, and because with slighly over size tires I can do 70%-80% of anything the swingin' diks can do. In the end, it depends on how you value your equipment, your ability to finance and facilitate a new hobby, and whatyou expect to do with your Jeep. For me, it's not about wheelin', it is merely a conveyance to get me to more remote camping areas that pickups/campers/trailers can't reach.

[@davidtrevino5211]

@@OutnBacker Very insightful information. I gotta admit, I absolutely love the ride it has right now at stock height. My slightly lifted XJ rides 10 times rougher.. Thank you for the response..

[@OutnBacker]

@@davidtrevino5211 A simple puck lift of 2" will not change that ride, but will allow a slightly taller tire. The taller tires will get the dif off the ground a tad more. It makesa difference when on those rutted tracks off the forest roads.

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

Theyre underpowered though just like the 4.2. There is a reason the 4.2 were dropped and they never used em anymore in the SJ wagoneers. Theyre underpowered. And yes the amc 360 later years had terrible hp. But its torque is still much higher than a 4.0 or 4.2

[@goblinslayer77]

Yes sir, my ZJ is like a time capsule, bought mine off the original owner and she had everything the jeep came with down to the original spare tire cover and the leather trunk rolling cover. Truly amazing vehicle's

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Very cool!

[@OutnBacker]

Normally, the Laredo with the 4L had the Dana 30 front, 35 rear. Not the strongest combo, but fine for moderate off road work. If you are running on off road 2-rut tracks with deep spots, high center, some minor pits and small logs across the track, you're fine. Steep stuff, rolling boulders under the wheels with snap stops, and plenty of it, you'll want to upgrade. Same goes for the transmission. Just take things nice and easy. Keep your tire choices light weight and narrow to avoid excess backslap in the drive train and axles. As far as I know, the only manuals were made in 1993, and in very small numbers so they are RARE (about 1500). Back then these were marketed to soccer mom's who didn't want to shift, so all later GC were autos. Corrections requested.

[@reigndown]

They made the manual transmission from 1993 into the 1994 model year and was discontinued for 1995. I had a parts ZJ with a production and build date in 94 that was factory equipped with the AX-15/NP231 combo which I took out and put into my 95 ZJ. If it wasn't about to rust in half I would have tried to save it. A user by the name of PLMCRZY had access to the production numbers where he worked and you can find the build sheet on a 5-speed ZJ auction that sold on Cars and Bids. For 1994 there were 1755 total made for the USA market and 260 for the CAN market. Idk if that includes the ZG version of the ZJ sold in Europe. 271 of them were SE models, the rest were Laredo trims. The Red 94 I had for parts was Laredo trim. The total amount of 5-speed ZJs left in the world in working condition is super slim, so I hope to keep my factory converted 95 in as top condition as I can until I croak haha.

[@OutnBacker]

@@reigndown Nice. good info. Thanks.

[@gotanksrox5331]

i have a 94, and it's had it's share of issues over the years. went through one transmission, the rear shocks were totally seized up, crankshaft sensor would intermittently fail, and now the ac won't hold a charge. luckily, parts are relativity cheap, and it's not really hard to work on. other than the transmission, it might have $200 worth of parts thrown at it over the last 10 years, and it runs like a champ. easily the most fun i've ever had in the snowy weather. it's amazing what that thing can do, even with stock wheels with all season tires on it. that thing pulled a ~25 degree slope in 10 inches of drift snow with almost no effort. definitely a vehicle i want to keep running

[@PDXborn]

A forgotten gem with jeep... I own a 94 ZJ, I6 5 speed, Laredo. Special order from factory with all leather interior. Very few Zj i6 manuals made, this one is unique. 231 transfer case upgraded internals to Dakota HD chains and gearing. Engine replaced with rebuilt 96 XJ I6. 92 XJ D30 HP upfront with upgraded shafts, stock U-joints to keep that as failure point, swapped rear axle for '98 Explorer 8.8 with rear discs. (I carry spare shafts when 4x4ing). YJ e-brake conversion. 4.56s with aftermarket limited slip front and rear since I do a ton of snow I steered clear of lockers (just ride the e-brake to lock up the rear). Clayton's Long arm kit, front and rear with 5 inch lift and 35s (you would have to clearance the wheel wells), but going back to 33s as I'm not on the trails as often. Upgraded intake and exhaust. Port matched long runner header. 2000 XJ intake manifold and power steering pump. 180f thermostat. Taurus radiator fans. Steering box braced and cross braced. HD OTK steering. 4x6 sliders. Tom Woods drive shafts. Fuel pump upgraded. Steel gas tank skid with tow hitch tucked. Factory skids upgraded. Aftermarket bumpers and tire carrier. Vanco upgraded brakes and calipers with steel lines. Neon fuel injectors, custom ported 62mm TB, upgraded pressure regulator and gapped plugs. I run ZDDP oil additive with these engines on T6 oil and VW turbo diesel oil filters (higher pressure BP valve). 12k winch. One of a kind and I'll probably never sell it. Seldom driven but starts every time. Biggest issue is power window door wiring starting to deteriorate needs a new wiring harness at the door hinges and headliner needed regluing. Besides that, very few issues. Rear main seal is a problem in these with the I6 AX15s. A/C HP seals starting to go bad after all these years.

[@chasermalloy7406]

Fantastic cars. First G/C was a 4.0 ZG. Loved it. Really only went up to WJ because brakes on the ZG not up to towing heavy loads. No interest in anything later than the WJ. Currently driving a WJ Overland. Said I'd never sell it but I found a one owner 2003 Overland with 26,000 original miles. Like new. I'll keep this new one until I find a lower mileage one ! I don't go playing in the mud. I tow heavy car trailers and I just love driving it. Remember these were the expensive Jeep when they were new BTW track bar is the first thing to check if you have the REAL BaD death wobbles That's usually the problem if it's shaking so bad you can barely hold on to the wheel. Follow up everything else too of course. Suspension parts not too expensive.

[@miporsche]

Good video! I had a 2000 XJ with the low oil pressure you mentioned. I put a lunch box locker in the rear, got a 1-inch ARB lift and rock rails. We drove that thing on many off-road adventures on 29s when the kids were small. Now the kids are adults. I recently bought a 98 ZJ with the 5.2. I'm going with the Spartan locker and rock rails again. Looking forward to some more adventures.

[@Freakingnewguy2012]

I bought my 96 for 300 bucks with 315k on it and it runs like a charm. The few things I have learned is to keep a spare ignition coil and a crank sensor. I’ve owned it for 4 years now and it’s now on 8 inches of lift with 33’s and lockers front and back that thing will keep up with them 60k jeeps

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Cranks sensors are a must!

[@OutnBacker]

Yup, going full mods will definitely get those things over the humps with the best of them.

[@americawehaverights3926]

My 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 s-6 100k miles on here and it’s my baby her name is Thelma she’s always done me right. 🇺🇸

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Awesome!

[@thatonecrazydudeyaknow285]

I love my 5.2 zj limited v8. Yeah not a big fan of the quadra-trac 4 wheel all time But it will be swapped out for the 241 or 242 tc. Eventually it will be a 5spd manual but after j source all the parts to do so. Also if you buy a zj behind the front wheel in the wheel well there is a plastic hidden door that WILL hold mud. So when you get of the mud make sure to get that compartment so you can keep your rockers safe. If they are like a hooker don't worry and be happy because the replacement is under 50 bucks. Also the zj had a recall because the fuel tank had some kind of issue so if you go to the nearest mopar or no car dealer then they hook you up with a towing package that gives the fuel tank that extra support. Did it mention it was a FREEEBIE!!!!!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Can’t beat FREE!

[@victorcalero1295]

Me podrías ayudar acabó de comprar un Jeep zj igual de 5.2 litros en v8 del 93 que grado de aceite lo has hechado

[@BH-gh6qm]

Multiple XJ owner here. Ive been looking for a ZJ but Im opting for a v8. I figure I already have had multiple 4.0s, I might as well get something different to learn on. Plus the v8s sound so damn sweet, and surprisingly fast.

[@TalesoftheScales]

Man but they’re pieces of junk trust me

[@RealSteelFabrications]

run great

[@alexgrindnshine2522]

The 5.2 and 5.9 V8 will run for ever. Easy to work on too.

[@cliffbernsen438]

318 is the way to go in ZJ. It costs more to hot rod than a Chevy but they have potential. Get OBD2 for tuning. The V8 comes with the better rear end. The transfer case for a V8 will have to be rebuilt or swapped. 4.0 is only worth it if you are keeping it stockish and want the best mpg.

[@edzimdahl1158]

Had 3 96 model year with the 4.0, and part time 4wheel, average 16sh mpg,, currently have 98 w/5.2 and even with the 249transfercase average 18mpg

[@OutnBacker]

MPG will be about the same, or, not enough difference to matter. The 4.0 is the workhorse AMC engine that used to be the 232/258. In the lighter Cherokee, it's pretty lively, but in the 600lb heavier GC, it does work a little harder. Still, I prefer it to trying to squeeze myself into a tight spot with that V8 under a very small hood. People forget how small the ZJ and WJ really are - about the same size as the Ford Explorer or Toyota 4-Runner of similar years. Waaay smaller than the Seqouia or newer 4-Runner. The rear end is somewhat tougher with the V8 option (31 splines), but the Dana 35 (27 splines) will get you to 80% of what anything else will do. The last 20%, I don't care about. I'd probably damage body parts before the dif exploded or an axle broke, and those body parts are now VERY hard to find. Likely as not I'd also throw my back out, too.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

plan to just use it as a winter ride. You are right though, the 5.2 is a great engine

[@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305]

@@OutnBacker not enough diff to matter.. dude.. the 5.2 has 300ft lbs of torque at 3200 rpm... The 4.0 has 225 at 3000 i believe. Thats a massive amount of torque difference. The 4.0 is nicknamed the 4.slow for a reason its a good engine but there is no replacement for displacement in this case.. i have a 5.9 and i absolutetly hate the 4.0 driving on the road.. you cant pass anyone cruise control up a slight hill gies whacky downshifting alot because it has no torque.

[@OutnBacker]

@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 There's a lot to be said for displacement, that's for sure. But, I have no problem passing. What you said about hill climbing in CC: yeah, its a bit annoying. Never happened in the little Cherokee because it was a lot lighter.

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

96 ZJ, these things are tanks. I found nine sitting out in the field with expired tags and the shocks look like peeled bananas and the calipers were rusted solid, wheel bearing seized. Found the owner a guy it for scrap value and I'm replacing stuff. It's actually running really good with how little I've replaced so far. If this was any other year I would not be putting so much effort into it. 2w aw 4hi 4low, full spectrum drivetrain. Thanks for the heads up on the lift kit. That was definitely needed information.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

no problem

[@ryanens3853]

Probably the best car review video I’ve ever seen. Honest expectations is what’s it’s about.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Appreciate it!

[@thelagmeister]

The 5.9 was only available in 98 and if I remember right only about 12,000-14,000 were produced compared to about a quarter million XJ's and ZJ's. I love my 95 ZJ. $500 make you holla. Had the death wobble but I took care of that the second I noticed it. Also stuck in 3rd unless you shift through the gears. I changed the solenoids but apparently there is a snap ring in the overdrive assembly that goes bad, and OD goes bye bye. For some reason people love towing with overdrive.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good deal for $500

[@thelagmeister]

@@RealSteelFabrications Definitely. I put 30 mud tires, a 3 inch lift with the transfer case drop, and replaced all of the sensors. We drive it every day. I'm never selling it.

[@OutnBacker]

Anotjher post to talk about the noise that is so common to the 4.0L. They basically have two distinct noise signatures: 1) the valve train, which can be worn lifters and other components. It's hard to tell what kind of maintainance schedule any previous owner kept. Infrequent oil changes can definitely cause valve train noise, and this can cause loss of power. 2) Low end noise which sounds like rod knock. Only - it isn't. If there is any part of the 4.0 that is bombproof, it's the low end: crank, rods, pistons, bearings, all have fantastic oil lubrication inherent in these and most other US designed straight six motors. I think America made the best straight six engines ever built. Pick your brand. The clacking noise is piston slap, and for debatable reasons, is caused by one or more pistons wiggling as it slides up and down inside the cylinder. There is no record of catastrophic loss of an engine because of this, just a little early wear on the guilty piston skirts. Occasionally, an egine may be rebuilt, and there may be a piece of a skirt lying in the pan, but the motor never knew it. In the 4.0, the low end clacking goes away as soon as there is any throttle applied. Its just a "resting" noise. Unlike a knock, which does not go away, but gets louder as throttle is applied. They're just very noisy engines. So are Toyota 22r's and later variants, but they are world class engines. The Mercedes straight six was noisy as well, but most people are too young to remember that. My mother's 68 280sl sounded like a diesel, but it wasn't. Even my new 78 Datsun 280Z had lots of valve train noise but ran like a sewing machine.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@4est4head]

All the issues you were describing are literally happening to mine right now. Every single one. Same color and everything too 😂 got mine for 350

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Hey, for that price you can get it fixed

[@XNonexistenceX]

I just bought a 97 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 4x4 but it is missing the front drive shaft but everything else is nice.. runs great has power and a/c works heater works. My oil pressure dropped at idle but I changed the oil and sending unit Ccv and Pcv Valve.. I got all new fuel injectors and spark plugs and wires and dis. Cap.. new Sony stereo and speaker set up. It dose drip oil from rear main but motor doesn’t make odd noises or taps or knocks.. it’s all black and I bought all new light assembly front and back.. I replaced all window regulators.. and the struts for lift gate. I love my Jeep I just need to fix the 4x4 drive shaft possibly transfer case.. I bought the Jeep for 1800. So amazing Jeep 🤘🏼 oohh and my oil pressure stays in the middle at idle and highway. I drive it 80 mph with no wobble.. it’s an automatic with a new exhaust flowmaster super 10..

[@RealSteelFabrications]

sounds like a good rig

[@OGOutdoorGarage]

Great review! Missouri is killing it with content this year✌🏻. Fun fact, if you jump your lifted and death wobbling ZJ, the rear upper shock mounts will experience rapid unscheduled disassembly:)

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Good to know lol! What Jeep do you prefer?

[@OGOutdoorGarage]

@@RealSteelFabrications I’ve only had TJ and ZJ unless you count my wife’s Compass. I much preferred the TJ platform for crawling around the woods. These days I’m all dodge baby.

[@johnvela8100]

I got one 97 5.2 runs great and 4x4 work great love it.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good deal!

[@BrandanZmaster]

I picked up a 94 Limited recently. Low miles, V8 and of course 4WD. It has the full time 4WD. I love the extra power I get with the V8! Idk what direction I want to go with it as I am the 2nd owner and its still all original, but I'm thinking of a beefy overlander that can go pretty much anywhere except the wildest trails of Moab, after all I dont plan to go do that sorta stuff very often if at all and still wanna daily it if I wanted. Thanks for the review, it was helpful!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good look one your Jeep, thanks for the comment!

[@lorenzogonzalez0]

I bought a 95' Jeep Laredo for 2.5k a few months ago off FB Marketplace. Had the death wobble going over 75mph until I replaced all the wheels. There's still a number of other things that needs to be replaced: - Drag Links - Tie Rods - Control Arm (Lower) - Track Bar - Stabilizer Bar End Link Overall, I still am in love with my job. The only thing that's really bothering me is how hard it is to find a new Front Bumper!!

[@sistergreenellc]

Junkyard

[@OutnBacker]

The 4.0 has a particular tendency for being noisy at idle. It goes away when the motor is under load. In addition to the valve train noise, it is also known for a knocking sound down low, which many people take for bearing noise/rod knock. Usually, it isn't that at all and the noise also goes away under load. It's piston slap, due to the piston skirts being a tad too short, allowing the piston to wobble on it's path up and down in the cylinder. With normal regular oil changes, it does not seem to lessen the life of the engine, although it will eventually wear the piston skirt flanges which in turn increases the knocking sound. The cylinder wall will also eventually become scored as well. Still, these remarkable AMC-based engines just keep on running. I have yet to find anyone who can verify my suspicions that Chrysler, while modifying the AMC engines for HO, may have trimmed the pistons to reduce the mass, thus assisting in the HP gain over the original 258 AMC. To my knowledge, the AMC motors in earlier Jeeps did not have piston slap noise. A bit of valve train noise, but not more than any other American straight six - which were mostly all excellent engines for decades.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

I don’t worry about the 4.0 noise at all. They’re a great engine

[@racerwilson152]

Does it do the same in the 5.2 v8?

[@vincentventolora3562]

Got my 95 ZJ with only 47,000 miles on it For $100 dollars was sitting under a maple tree up in Martha's Vineyard needed a new battery and alternator to get her running. I have done many upgrades since and still upgrading.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

What a steal!

[@rustyedges704]

I agree 100% with everything that you said the only reason I prefer the XJ is because of the engine versus the size and the amount of aftermarket parts that xjs have is insane but as you stated the price of them has skyrocketed tremendously you used to be able to go pick a $500 one up and drive it forever. Now you can't find a running one for less than 2k and if you do it's gone within the hour.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Very true. I just absolutely love how much more comfortable the ZJ is. Biggest con is the death wobble when you start putting larger tires on them. Going to try to hold onto this one until the ZJ’s start getting more recognition!

[@rustyedges704]

@@RealSteelFabrications they're def starting to get used more in off-road applications if someone made a dedicated line of good aftermarket parts they could make some money.

[@keithharden7844]

@@RealSteelFabrications Clunkers and classics did a video this morning on getting rid of the death wobble on his Jeep

[@smiffythecat3751]

I agree mostly with what you guys have said (even the part in the vid about the 99mpg goin down hill). Love the one I have as it just eats miles and I'm not at all nice to her. Had it for a very long time now. Heavier sway bars, poly bushings, Bilstein shocks helped a lot with the death wobble, but it has reared it's ugly head a few times since. It stiffened the ride a lot on dirt roads which means go fast (45-50) or slow (15-20), no in-between cause it vibrates a lot and gets squirrely in curves, which can be a lot of fun. It was in very good condition until I met that large piece of wood in the back/drivers side (lots of repair, work). Pushing limits can be fun, but strange events can happen. Another interesting change I tried was an electric cooling fan with a heavy duty (going on memory) 150? amp alternator. I wasn't sure about it, but it smoothed out the engine substantially, mild horsepower gain, half a mile better mpg, and has worked for several years. The whole change over was about $500. Anyway, I am by no means an expert, but I have lots of enjoyment from that 4.0 97 ZJ and many miles. OH yeah, a Dana 44 in the rear. Saw a guy asking $10k for 4.0, low miles ZJ in Alabama 3 years ago. I don't know sales price, but musta been the beginning of a trend. Also, yes, if you blink too hard XJ's are gone.

[@DonPTellemVision]

I just bought my 95 for $600.00 I don’t know much about vehicles but watching videos and seeing comments I’ve been blessed to find such a deal. Bought it from an older guy and one thing I know older guys know how to take care of a vehicle. It definitely have plenty of rust which I don’t mind. That may possibly make it hard to pass inspection but there’s ways around that 👍🏾

[@lar4305]

I have a 1997 ZJ in great shape 4.0l. Picked it up about 10 years a go from a guy that had it garage kept. very little rust and under the truck is spotless . It has almost 110,000 on it. i get offers for it all the time but will never sell it. Those things are a beast in the snow.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

very nice!

[@twoallame]

Nice video, got my 1996 Jeep grand Cherokee laredo a little over a month ago.....$500.00 with 115k original miles on it, 5.2 liter 318, got it from a friend's mother whose husband was a mechanic......so she is mechanically sound, needs some cosmetic work, little rust here and there. Got it for long drives on the highway to far away locations, use my 2016 Rubicon hard rock JKU for the back country. I'm enjoying the rehabilitation of her. Again great video giving some insight in to what to look for....thanks it will stay pretty much stock, just replacing bumpers with steel ones and new wheels and the largest AT tires I can stuff under her with out a lift and no rubbing.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@Just1American1966]

I bought a '97 just like the one in the video (same exterior color, too) in 2005, with 119K on the ticker. It's been on and off road up and down between my home in southern Florida and Appalachia (NC and TN.) With 265K on it now, I've been forced to retire it due to severe rust having made it no longer safe as a daily driver. Still, the 4.0 engine has yet to leak a drop of anything. What a beast. I would have logged many more miles on it, but I've always had at least one other vehicle as well.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@jamzzzjamzzz4805]

just picked up my first 98 zj and instantly fell in love with it

[@BC.ZJ.OVERLAND]

I got a 95 zj. Had it for 3 years. Picked it up for $300. Had to replace motor due to severe knock. Its a money pit but i take damn good care of it. Just gotta replace rear axle shaft bearings as they grind like hell in the new rear axle from a 5.9 since its the d44a HD. I've put tons of money into the jeep and it goes everywhere i need it to. Only gotten stuck twice (deep mud and i ran out of momentum 6 inches from the end of the mud pit)

[@noriceformeplz]

I miss my 98 5.9 Limited. Had a few thing done to it and she was a dig monster.. that 360 with some mods is no joke for an older SUV.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Agreed!

[@edzimdahl1158]

98zj laredo upcountry, but only the 5.2,, had 3 96 with the 4.0 and while capable felt needed a pinch more under the hood,, and then ran across current zj, acquired at 8k miles and almost 300k later have only had to do regular maintenance

[@Spruce-Bug]

I had my 98ZJ in a bad storm and drove into some fallen trees. Ripped up the control arm mounts, axles, and bushings. New vehicles are too heavy and too expensive. Bought a welder and fixed the unibody and brackets myself. dropped $1000 on a lift kit, $1000 on 33" KO2s, and wheeled that until my front drive shaft broke, solved death wobble by buying front upper adjustable control arms and adjusting the caster angle. Pulled a high pinion D30 from a junk yard and will rebuild that with 4.10s and have to buy a new front drive shaft. With all the work, shipping, and taxes, it's probably $4000 in and it's far more capable now than it ever was, also it's cheap enough to smash up and not cry over it.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

fun to wheel!

[@arkansasmudkings9961]

For the death wobble, check the nut behind the trackbar. Mine was loose from a previous owner incorrectly installing a lift. I believe only the v8 models had the 44a. You are correct on the tcase sucking. 231 from certain xj’s is a direct swap in.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

trackbar is a good start

[@danhipol9386]

Glad to know I’m not the only one who feels good when mpg hits 99 going down hill

[@claztube]

Looks like a fine purchase overall which includes its 'LOOKS' I could write a book on how not to buy cars. So, with that said, It is a pleasure to see you here given some advice that just didn't exist 20 years ago. Good on ya, feller.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Well said!

[@rhendawhite6728]

I just sold mine $1,900 I haven’t signed it over yet.Ive had it as a second owner and I’ve kept it for 26 years and I paid $5,00.00 back then and it only had 50 thousand miles then and I’m only 51 years old.I have seven cars so it’s time to sell some cars.My Jeep still have the original motor and transmission.Hope this helps.

[@chicagorc3967]

i got a 97 zj orvis with the factory 5.2. Only 998 of my jeep came to america, im just trying to keep mine road worthy.lol i got it after it sat for 9 years and paid 200$ from my old boss. He paid 38k in 97 for it, its got 138k on the dash. She has some rough edges but the 318s running strong! i need to make some vids. Thanks for sharing man. you got my sub

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Love the orvis edition. My buddy had one back in high school

[@chicagorc3967]

@@RealSteelFabrications The zj is a all time favorite of mine. The black ones are nice. They are getting harder and harder right find.

[@BrandanZmaster]

I have a 94 Limited with the V8 now, but I had a 95 Orvis edition before this one. I was going to restore it because it didn't have 100k miles on it, but had been though a bad hail storm and every piece had been dented or damaged so I sold it. The Orvis is rare and a good one will be worth the pain to repair and restore. Also, IMO, the Orvis was the nicest looking of all the ZJs with the Green or Silver paint and the special interior.

[@CaptainGnarkill]

As soon as I saw the Mountain Dew in the cup holder, I instantly trusted every thing he said in this video.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Haha! Always got a Dew

[@TheWolfsnack]

I have a 93 ZJ.....over 400k on it.....replaced the tranny and transfer case, and rear diff rebuild.....other than the rotten rockers I am replacing with rock sliders.....the car is awesome....plus way better fuel economy than my old Wrangler YJ

[@jonathontittle1363]

I have a 94 ZJ 4.0 with 5 speed and it is awesome transmission wise and well it’s just a awesome jeep it’s all stock and I love it

[@jeraddavis4202]

Just picked up my first Jeep, a 98 Laredo with the 4.0 and it’s is super clean! Not a single scratch or dent on it & best part it was only $1,000 bucks

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Great deal!

[@notsureigaf]

Nice, the ZJ in this video is almost identical to the one I bought back in the fall - Laredo, 4.0, Selec-Trac, forest green, canyon wheels, cloth interior (but gray instead of tan). Completely unmolested & spent its whole life in GA and eastern VA, so almost no rust top to bottom. After owning a couple of XJs I wanted another 4.0 Jeep, but one more comfortable and less rust-prone than the XJ. Can confirm mine came with trashed headliner and blown-out hatch struts, which I replaced immediately since that hatch is way heavier than you'd think without the struts to assist. Something to note about the oil pressure @ 5:20, the senders are notoriously unreliable on these. Mine seemed to work great at first, bouncing between 20psi and 60psi depending on usage, but lately shows around 30psi in all situations which I know cannot be correct. It's on my "fix this eventually" list 😆

[@trucking325]

Same here

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@notsureigaf]

@@RealSteelFabrications update, I just replaced that oil pressure sensor last weekend and it solved the problem. The one installed was a cheap aftermarket piece with a white shell, which fell apart as soon as I tried to pull the connector off. After installing a Mopar sensor the gauge shows 30-60psi depending on RPM, engine temp, etc.

[@TheMnfrontierman]

When I went looking for a ZJ, i looked specifically for one with the upcountry package and was lucky enough to find an Orvis Edition one with the 5.2

[@RealSteelFabrications]

nice!

[@brian.a.bell.sr2968]

You rock bud. I just bought the ZJ heirloom from my parents. 300k, but new motor and trans at 156k. No real problems with them but it was mom. Wanted her to have a new car but not get rid of her baby. My dad bought it new in 94. Well lift and 33s on 410s. True tracks front and rear it is. It took me 10 years to get her to sell it to me. AWSOME up in the mountains and trails in the San Juan's in Colorado. With the lift. Black bear trail it is

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@Suave6869]

Ive got a 94 4.0 with the 4 speed auto.. its on its 2nd rebuilt tranny and its got the EXACT problem you described lol.. mine leaks oil like a sum gun but no coolant leak and mine loves high oil pressure idles at around 40psi and holds! no headliner of course and has typical rust and horrible death wobble when you hit rough bridges...

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Sounds about right lol

[@danelhouseofel7634]

Wow! Really good video. Thank you!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Glad you liked it!

[@austincooks4u]

I love my GrandC. i have the limited with all time 4xlow/hi shifter. its a stright 6 also. I Had a 2x4x4 transfer and it got better gas milage. no leaks at 30 years and 200000miles. i thinks its a good one. i paid 1800 and have put probably about 2000 in new parts in it. but its a daily driver and its cool with some Mikey Thompson Mud Slingers

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Right on!

[@superstriker412]

The oil pressure on my ZJ stays just below 40 at idle. It has never dropped as low as you showed. Also the rear end on mine was making noise, a fluid change solved it. Not sure if it was just low or if the fluid was old.

[@shizzyranks]

ah the ZJ, the XJ's little brother that went to a state college on a football scholarship. love my 96 4.0.... dana 30 front, 35 rear...same color too.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

great rigs

[@laclipperhandsthebarbur]

I'm buying a 98 Laredo tomorrow actually 4.0 with 210,000 miles transmission was replaced idk if that is a issue but I hope I get a good vehicle

[@RealSteelFabrications]

You should be good, check the issues I mentioned, check the oil and antifreeze to make sure they have been maintaining the vehicle, test drive it and make sure to get up to 60mph+. 4.0’s are awesome motors, rebuilt tranny is a plus!

[@laclipperhandsthebarbur]

@@RealSteelFabrications I actually bought it the tips you gave really help me when I made the decision I paid $1500 which might be to much but I did tell him down a thousand bucks so far the jeep is driving ok

[@RealSteelFabrications]

@@laclipperhandsthebarbur awesome! $1500 doesn’t seem bad at all!

[@BrandanZmaster]

Hello! I highly recommend buying a transmission cooling kit for any Jeep that's auto. The issue with these transmissions is they are cooled by the same fluids that cool the engine and the temp for the trans can get too high and they fail. If you're any sort of mechanic you can do the job yourself and the kit was cheap. Just search for it on YT and there is a guy that walks though the whole process. Doing that to my 94! Best of luck with your build.

[@andonsimmons682]

the transmissions in them are trash

[@that_ZJ_Jeep_guy]

I bought a 96 zj. Inline 6 4.0 with the selcettrac. Stock. This thing goes better than my 97 4 runner stock.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

they get around great

[@jarosawmarek887]

I own a 95 zj , AW4 , LA 4" lift and it's awesome offroad rig

[@zandersbailey6546]

I have 3 zj's all IRO'd out , I've had years and years of great riding, great steering. Although I keep two eyes on my track bars and change them out at slightest movements and usually all of them together.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Good tip!

[@tcfauto]

Dude I've had 2 XJs, but you just sold me on the ZJ. I'm never buying an XJ again, considering I'm 6'4 lol

[@RealSteelFabrications]

ZJ’s are a great option for someone taller

[@GTStuning-]

My old 88 XJ 4.0 also had a death wobble but it was probably a worn drag link/steering stabilizer.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

they are bad about it

[@madhtrr]

Lol I took the headliner out of mine too. Looks cooler that way.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

bought mine this way

[@4x4ManiacBadTimeGarage]

sorry guys, don't want to hate on the 4.0 (super solid engine), but i'd get the v8 every single day. mine was a 5.2 and i now swapped a 5.9. vids in my channel.

[@TrevByTheTon300]

I needed a 5.2 for power... the 4.0 wasnt enough. But awesome review.

[@leakyjeep5.9]

I daily my 98 5.9 230k miles. Lots of body work. Looks perfect except for the carpet.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

nice!

[@shawnyg16]

Yeah the transfer case for 4x4 control on my 97 ZJ ; was a little loose making sound but I’d back at it off the end position a bit and it’d be smooth after that

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good deal

[@baseball1090]

305,000 miles on mine and still going strong. Just got it lifted today.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Right on!

[@Thundarr995]

Most of the time the Dana 44a is fine. The pinion bearings go bad and the carrier side bearings wear out and get pitted. Just change the bearings and it'll probably be fine.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@matthewbrown2978]

These jeeps rock 🤘 you got a Lotta stuff right on em,but you can lift these, although to do it right cost more than we buy them for usually

[@RealSteelFabrications]

For sure!

[@retrolake2019]

thank you it really helped me when i bought my 1994 grand cherokee limited

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Glad I could help

[@davidm.8125]

Mine was parked for a year and a half when my computer died, new computer new battery and was on the road again have 320k+ miles on it now

[@korbinbattson4181]

I’m going to be buying a black 95 zj Laredo with the 5.2 and leather interior in a couple of months for only $500. Problem is that it sat in the woods for the last 10 years, has a little rat damage in the engine compartment, and has a blown head gasket at 238,000 miles. Luckily I’m mechanically inclined, there’s very little rust on it since it’s a Northern California vehicle, and the windows were rolled up for all those years so the interior is in good shape. The owner also told me that she installed a new water pump and radiator right before she parked it, so I think that’s a bonus. Once I rebuild the engine, I know that I have to change the oil and the coolant, but should I also change the power steering fluid and the transmission fluid? Edit: I’m also thinking about putting a Flowmaster exhaust on it to make it sound better.

[@blairtoland6178]

Just got a 98 ZJ she only got 79,000 miles😎, put on a 2" lift and got some 31x10.5 BFG A/T, new headliner, black leather is flawless

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Awesome!

[@christophershirk489]

98 Zj 5.2 283,000 miles running strong

[@edzimdahl1158]

Also a 98zj 5.2,, had 208k when got it,, put 255k on it and first repair,, replaced transmission, other than that just the normal maintenance

[@RealSteelFabrications]

awesome! My last one had 315,000

[@alexgrindnshine2522]

5.2 and 5.9 engine have no problem going well above 300k miles. You can run them hard and they don’t care.

[@Mauser1965]

I prefer my 4.0 powered '87 Pioneer over my Magnum powered '97 ZJ LTD that had all the bells and whistle's. Only thing that the ZJ had over this XJ is the seats. My girlfriend had a '97 ZJ LTD as well, and prefers her stock XJ. We don't ORV or rock crawl, but are set up to boondock/overland. Mine unfortunately came with a RE 3.5" lift, thus I guess I've got newer suspension parts.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@guidorivarola205]

i got the 4w all time and has no issue with it, 170 miles and still working as good as neew... u got to replace the oil on them and thats all its sad u got the 4.0L one, couse the v8 is way better all around, has less temp and more power 27hp more makes a dif in any case

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@BxRDeathstrike]

bought mine for 400 dollars been very reliable. And its stock with headliner.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Nice!

[@jakey20022]

The 5.9 liter was only available in 1998 and a limited package

[@trucking325]

Oil temp sensor gets hot due to location. As it gets hot it loses resistance thus, low oil pressure display.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing!

[@jlsgarage872]

Xj had the aw4 for most of the run. That is the good and reliable trans but the zj only came witj it first part of 93 with 4.0, after that was 42re which was much worse

[@RealSteelFabrications]

thanks for sharing

[@divadro102]

Beautiful ZJ! Have had about 8 XJs and 2 ZJs. Currently 312k on my 96XJ. I find these to be a "higher trim" of an XJ lol they're almost identical as a 4.0 besides the tranny. I do WISH these had the insane amount of aftermarket gear like the XJ does but hopefully it gets there. My girl's ZJ is currently going through some weird shutting off gremlins I've never experienced with mine

[@RealSteelFabrications]

I’ve had both as well. I’ve actually had a ZJ shut off randomly. It was something with a loose wire in the steering column

[@divadro102]

@@RealSteelFabrications 😲 another thing to check. It had a really bad fuel pump and the CPS actually broke off right at the bolt and the bellhousing had to be helicoiled. Both were replaced but no dice. Wires, plugs, dist cap, coil, relays... Nothing, still same. . And now the tranny is shifting real hard and hanging from 1 to 2 and 2 to 3. Grounds have been checked. Haven't changed the o2 Sensors yet, doubt that might cause the shutoffs. I feel it might be the ECU 😩 or I have a lemon fuel pump because now it's really loud when priming.

[@BH-gh6qm]

do you agree with the video that the 4.0 is better than the v8 zjs ? Ive had multiple XJs and wanted to get a ZJ. I thought I would get a v8 to play with something different but this is the first time hearing the 4.0 is better. I thought the v8 would be better since its a heavier rig than the XJ

[@mattck92]

My 1997 Zj just turned 100,000 miles and I’ll own it till I die

[@metropoliszx9961]

Thanks for the video, useful information, greetings from Argentina!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nervouswreck392]

If that noise is lifters pour half uh bottle of marvel mysterious oil in it. That will be end of the noise‼️

[@lemonmanoftexas6892]

watching this before working on my brothers old jeep, transmission rotted to hell and back

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good luck

[@tylerhepler421]

I paid 200$ for my 95 zj and it has a 5.2 she’s mint all I had to do was bypass security mode so the immobilizer wouldn’t keep me from rippin her

[@christophershirk489]

I paid 300 for mine 5.2 she’s pretty quick

[@RealSteelFabrications]

What a steal!

[@kaydenmccleery]

Just got a 5.9 130k miles and its got some hail damage but its quick for a jeep

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Sweet

[@JasonMacRaven]

I just bought a 98 ZJ and it was lifted before I bought it and has the death wobble. Just wondering if I should try to fix it up or remove the lift kit entirely and run it stock? Thank you for this video!

[@killabee623]

They are noisy engines but runs great. Had mine for 22 years.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

For sure

[@Gudi102]

Nice vid bruh!! I have a 95 ZJ V8 that I love!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Appreciate it

[@xdavstratx]

loved my ZJs only advantage the XJ has over the ZJ is better transmissions the 42RE in the 4.0s is a weak trans especially when dealing with the added stress of a lift/tires

[@RealSteelFabrications]

5.2's are good as well!

[@fabiancantu8141]

Thank you for the video. I really enjoyed watching and hearing you crack jokes!

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@mikeyhilderbrand1678]

I have a 1996 Zj with 300,000 miles still runs good and I got it for 300. Planing of putting a lift on it and tires it’ll be my first car any suggestions on what I should look for

[@fd4132]

Your old ladie can do it to!! Awesomeness

[@josephcazzuto7198]

That was hilarious 😅😅

[@RealSteelFabrications]

You got that right!

[@corymckinney3987]

I just picked up 96 jeep Laredo for free just put a motor out of a 94 jeep grand Cherokee the fuel rail is different

[@codyfordf250]

i bought my 93 zj for 250 but i had to replace a brake line motor mount frost plugs and tires

[@RealSteelFabrications]

good deal

[@trucking325]

Use a high zinc oil such as diesel oil to quite the lifters.

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Great advice!

[@MacGregor.]

Neighbor wants my 98 GC limited 318. I just can't. I'll always have it.suoer clean southern wagon, brought back to Detroit, Of course most everything is new. Conservative lift.. they don't like big lifts unless a 4 Link etc. Not needed.

[@armandogarza7059]

Bought a 95 ZJ 4x4 with the 4.0 with 163k miles on very good condition for $600

[@RealSteelFabrications]

what a deal!

[@antrace92]

I checked on my marketplace and somehow the models with 5.2 engine are slightly cheaper in my country. I wonder why

[@RealSteelFabrications]

Not as reliable

[@salaheddinebouteldji2873]

واش رايك ياالرغاية أليست أجمل من اليابانيات البدينات إلي خاطيهم غاع التو تيرا ، ولاراني خالط ؟ !

[@progame8890]

The more I look in to the these the more nervous I am to own one it’s my first car it’s already built a bit it’s the last car my grandpa drove and I’m gonna drive it but I’ve heard a lot of things about these we have 2 xj’s that are built and are solid but we’ve never had a zj

[@RealSteelFabrications]

they are great!