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NEW Mazda MX-30 R-EV review - what makes it a BRILLIANT plug-in hybrid! | What Car?

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In this new Mazda MX-30 R-EV review, we explain why this is the best plug-in hybrid you can buy.
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@whatcar
@whatcar 6 ай бұрын
Would you buy a plug-in hybrid? 🔌⛽
@jeyhuan9194
@jeyhuan9194 6 ай бұрын
not one with a rotary
@David_Denali
@David_Denali 6 ай бұрын
Pls make a vid about who to buy what hybrid/EV 🙏 Like isn't a plug in hybrid more efficient on long trips too wn they say it can travel like 700 miles?
@selldivision
@selldivision 6 ай бұрын
Getting the worst of two worlds sounds genius. Putting into the duff format that is the MX-30 makes it even dumber. Mazda do great cars. This isn't one of them.
@fezzz78
@fezzz78 6 ай бұрын
I would love to buy this one, but I already have the all electric version🤷🏻‍♂️
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 6 ай бұрын
Probably not. I have owned two Chevrolet Volts in the past, and really liked them. However, with Tesla's reliable nationwide charging network I no longer need the range extender for trips. Will a full BEV there is more passenger and cargo space, and no oil changes or other engine maintenance. The only exception might be for long range towing. The upcoming RAM PHEV should be better than the various BEV pickups for this task.
@PapaMax
@PapaMax 5 ай бұрын
What a truly great car. 94% of my journeys are sub 40 miles. The MX 30 r-ev specification totally nails my driving profile using EV power. I'm completely relaxed about longer journeys not having the greatest mpg efficiency because they are infrequent. What's great is never having to stop to charge at 79p/ kWh on the motorway - £13. That's two gallons of petrol, at least 70 miles driving and the battery fully charged at the same time. Around town with all those 20mph speed limits suits electric so well.
@muffythevampirelayer
@muffythevampirelayer 6 ай бұрын
This is a reincarnation of the BMW i3 with a range extender, which was also just a generator. I've had two and they were brilliant. Why BMW stopped producing them I do not know. The difference is, the BMW had the same battery size as the fully electric Mazda giving around 120 miles range and a smaller twin cylinder 650cc engine, so slightly more practical than the Mazda. This is the way to go, if you do your charging at home and mostly local mileage, but it would still be OK to do a few longer journeys a year, if you plan your charges and burn a bit of Dino juice. Well done Mazda and well done Doug, for a great review.
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
yes the bmw i3 rex is a great system, i have one , it is so much better than this with it's tiny battery and famously thirsty low torque engine in the front so you can listen to it, why? because mazda did not want to spend money making a ground up ev rex...
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
This car is absolutely perfect for some and not for others. Looks great,drives great.fantastic interior, no range anxiety. If you charge at home and dont have a family.. winner
@DZ-cm5xw
@DZ-cm5xw 6 ай бұрын
One important factor about plug in hybrid is that after the electric range rans out, the battery is not empty. Then the car will function as a regular hybrid car, which compensates the heavier weight and still get decent mileage compared to its IEC model. Another thing to consider is that PHEV have significantly smaller batteries compared to fully electric cars, the battery weight is ranging from 400 to 800 lbs.
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
Let's just ignore the weight of the combustion engine... No one will notice it 😂
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 6 ай бұрын
This car is heavier than it's BEV twin! The worst of both worlds really.
@DZ-cm5xw
@DZ-cm5xw 6 ай бұрын
@@TL-xw6fh may be due to its twin BEV has such a tiny battery. Think about the 125 miles range, it could be as little as 70 ish miles in cold weather. It sucks!
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
Average commute in Europe is 30km. Your home to charge again long before you gotta worry
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
@@admol73 Exactly, just ignore PHEVs and get a BEV!
@fezzz78
@fezzz78 6 ай бұрын
I love my Mx30! I don't have family, only my dog who sits in the back and I'm not doing any road trips, so this car is absolutely perfect for me! You should see this car as a 3 door car with 2 small extra doors. If u don't have family, u never use the backdoors anyway🤷🏻‍♂️
@lewismcnicholas2631
@lewismcnicholas2631 6 ай бұрын
I also find it annoying when reviewers always put practicality over design then complain when cars all end up the same 🤷‍♂️
@jdmguy44
@jdmguy44 6 ай бұрын
Yep I'm a single person with no family and only carry an occasional passenger. I think the MX-30 would be ideal for me. I love the quirky design. Don't get the obsession with practicality in every car review. If you want more space but a CX-30 or CX-5 or another bigger car. Simples.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
@@jdmguy44Ditto. This would suit me as well. This is a car, not a 4 wheeled appliance like the Prius I presently drive. Love the SUV Coupe Crossover shape. I’m small enough so there’ll be plenty of space for the rear passengers. I suspect the reviewer is over 6ft tall. I’m 5ft 7in - there’s a difference. I like the rear passenger side windows, reminiscent of a small Piper Aircraft or the portholes on a Space Capsule. It’s okay for occasional passengers - I don’t want another Uber oriented vehicle. Good review.
@fezzz78
@fezzz78 6 ай бұрын
@@datathunderstorm yeah exactly, the rear window really remind me of airplane windows😁
@phillipmahon8842
@phillipmahon8842 3 ай бұрын
Best , most informative reviewer I have ever watched
@kerryjones1508
@kerryjones1508 6 ай бұрын
Another cracking review ! Most people won't get the appeal of this car. You have to have a bit of an engineering interest and enjoy something a bit different. Others will just rent a Chinese EV.
@JohnSmith-ef8nr
@JohnSmith-ef8nr 5 ай бұрын
I'll just keep my Diesel car and save the money.
@coolbananaboy5075
@coolbananaboy5075 6 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! Fantastic review - what a good job. Thanks you.
@Uniongamers
@Uniongamers 6 ай бұрын
I would deffo consider one of these. I have nothing but love for Mazda.
@nickbull6603
@nickbull6603 6 ай бұрын
Don't, it's really disappointing
@redjohn20001
@redjohn20001 6 ай бұрын
I drove the original EV MX30 for a day when it first arrived and loved it. This drive train may just be ideal as we transition to full electric cars. I wish though it had been bought to market as the saloon, the Mazda 3 as the room in the back of the MX30 is very small.
@lullaboo100
@lullaboo100 Ай бұрын
Although you can charge the car on the run, why would you? Mine does about 60 miles on battery. Longer journeys, I switch to ‘Normal’ leaving 40% in battery for finishing the trip (that is back to the wall charger at 4 miles/Kw @2.8p/Kwh). With 24 miles still left in the battery, I switch to EV mode at 24 miles from home boosting the mpg from its Normal’ mode of about 60mpg. I can only imagine using the ‘Charge’ function if I had to drive in an exclusive all-electric environment. ‘Charge’ mode is about 36 mpg and public chargers too expensive and more than car running in ‘normal’ mode with some battery to complete journey. I suspect reports of disappointing mpg because motoring journalists fiddling about with different driving modes including ‘Charge’. Don’t touch it! Over the last 830 miles (short and long trips, I have used about £20 petrol. One of best cars (and cheapest) I’ve owned. Super info system. Gripe: the vol button too short and you constantly mute the sound. I have to use end of fingernail.
@felixswart5986
@felixswart5986 6 ай бұрын
Great review, was waiting for this. The car covers 80 % of what I am looking for, hence I consider it a concept car, for me at least. Pros: I can use the solar panels at home to charge during the day, as I work from home. The electric range is ideal as I do 25 kilometers on a typical day around town Cons: The rear doors make it a non starter. We are three people in our immediate family and I sometimes drive my mother around town, so there is no way that adults will be regularly squeezing in the back row. Boot space would be a pain on our annual holiday when we drive with three large suitcases plus hand luggage. I am considering the LBX as an alternative to the Mazda so have resigned myself to the fact that our child would be alone in the back row with a suitcase and the hand luggage would go in a roof carrier. Unknowns: The rotary engine makes we wonder whether Mazda has resolved the reliability issues they had with the RXs. In summary: My ideal car would be a combination of this and the LBX - a light plug-in hybrid with normal door configuration from the most reliable manufacturer in the world... PS: One reason I am hesitating with the LBX is that only Apple can connect wirelessly. At least the Mazda doesn't discriminate, but what is the point of going with the upgrade option on the LBX that offers wireless charging, if I have to plug in anyway to connect to the infotainment system?
@coolbananaboy5075
@coolbananaboy5075 6 ай бұрын
This video is so well written (or planned / edited). Just loved it - really enjoyable and educational. So much better than 99% of the car reviews out there.
@nickbull6603
@nickbull6603 6 ай бұрын
I've had one of these for a couple of weeks and put 1000 miles on it. As an electric car it's superb, it's well screwed together, really good quality and it drives very nicely, problem is it only does these things for about 40 miles and then the rotary engine kicks in and completely ruins the whole experience. It drones away like an angry washing machine, and is actually surprisingly thirsty, with long motorway journeys seeing not much more than 30mpg. Had Mazda left the 35kWh pack in it that's fitted to the electric version they probably would've had a real winner on their hands, sadly this isn't, and I wouldn't recommend anyone parts with their hard earned for one.
@xiaobaozha
@xiaobaozha 6 ай бұрын
Did you not charge the battery during stops while making longer journeys?
@nickbull6603
@nickbull6603 6 ай бұрын
@@xiaobaozha no mate, why on earth would you spend 45 minutes driving followed by 45 minutes charging? And that's before you even think about dividing the 80p p/kWh by the 3.5mpkWh the car achieves.
@xiaobaozha
@xiaobaozha 6 ай бұрын
@@nickbull6603 that’s not what I am advocating at all. If I was making a 200 mile journey, I would certainly stop at some point for refreshments, bio break etc., I would charge the car at that point (unless it proves cheaper to run/drive the car in charge mode).
@nickbull6603
@nickbull6603 6 ай бұрын
@@xiaobaozha of course, but this only does about 35 miles in EV mode, so you'd only be able to drive it for about 30 minutes and then have to recharge it for at least that long which would make your 200 mile journey an absolute ball ache.
@JayGalatica
@JayGalatica 4 ай бұрын
40 miles? That's amazing! Most people don't even drive 20 miles a day. And it's a hybrid so it's actually what most people want.
@fredbeblein2622
@fredbeblein2622 6 ай бұрын
One comment on the rear windows....I have been driving for almost 50 years now, with 18 different cars. Almost never did I or any of my passengers feel the wish to open the rear windows....Otherwise, I just drove the R-EV and it is gorgeous. The rotary engine can get a little loud in some situations. Yet, I am considering to buy one. Mazda does just a great job for years now!
@ImperfectionistGaming
@ImperfectionistGaming 5 ай бұрын
I hope it comes to the states. I love how this car looks!
@bayleymunro4163
@bayleymunro4163 6 ай бұрын
My rx8 has more leg room lmao. I do love that they kept the suicide doors bit I feel like for a family car they aren't very practical.
@lewismcnicholas2631
@lewismcnicholas2631 6 ай бұрын
Great summary about phevs - not enough people think about this - having had one myself I’d either go HEV or BEV as I think they are too compromised
@brianallan9035
@brianallan9035 6 ай бұрын
This probably how the MX30 should have been from the start. Still niche, but well made and good value. Really like these reviews and the close ups of the controls. Excellent.
@RaymondCore-ts5jl
@RaymondCore-ts5jl Ай бұрын
I live in a condo and cannot install a home charger and I would have to drive through an hour of Bangkok traffic to reach a charger so electric wasn't really an option. I really like the simplicity of an all electric car with built in gas-powered charger. Even if you never connect to a charger, the car gets 120 kpl or 283 miles per gallon. Not everyone has the ability to have their own charger so this will appeal to a much broader market.
@pillred5974
@pillred5974 6 ай бұрын
The big problem with this car is if you are doing a 150-mile journey as soon as the battery runs out and the engine takes over it is very thirsty if you do any longer journeys this car is not a practical proposition, I have read and watched reviews that say on engine power you will be lucky to get 30mpg. A self-charging hybrid like the Toyota Corolla or Honda Civic E-hev makes a lot more sense.
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 6 ай бұрын
If you are only doing occasional trips, like on the weekend, and you just do electric on the weekdays, does it behave all the savings?
@pillred5974
@pillred5974 6 ай бұрын
It might make sense then, but the best of both worlds is a car that charges itself so if you do go on longer trips it's still economical, if you do mostly short trips and have a home charger then the Mazda would be fine.@@deansmits006
@justice4g
@justice4g 4 ай бұрын
For long trips you're meant to start the generator when there's plenty of battery left, it's like the I3 but that gets probably 40mpg.. both are fine because they aren't designed to do this regularly.. it's for city dwellers that want a full time EV with petrol backup for occasional long trips, not an efficient petrol car which the other hybrids are.
@pillred5974
@pillred5974 4 ай бұрын
@@justice4g I was under the impression that this car would run until the charged battery (by the plug-in) is exhausted then the rotary engine runs to provide power for the electric motor, it does not actually build up charge it just then runs continually for the whole time the car is travelling so if you have to travel 100 miles the engine will have to run all of the time after the battery is depleted, I have a Honda Civic E-HEV and the engine only runs mostly to charge the small battery, as soon as there is enough power in it the engine switches off, I get north of 80mpg in urban driving and around 60mpg on longer trips that include say 50 miles of motorway, it to me makes more sense than a plug-in especially as I don't have a driveway.
@justice4g
@justice4g 4 ай бұрын
@@pillred5974 I haven't confirmed but guessing it's the same as the I3 which allows you to enable the generator at 75% battery to attempt to hold charge at that level, it's borderline at highway speeds but it does manage it that way you aren't ever forced to charge on a long trip if you don't want to or don't have DC charging like the early I3s. A regular hybrid is more convenient but when you're in the city and most your trips are less than a couple of km's it's not great for a petrol engine so I'd rather have an EV with a backup in case of power outages and to have the choice depending on what's cheaper. In some places public charging is more expensive than petrol. It's a different concept but it works for some of us!
@kuranglez
@kuranglez 6 ай бұрын
It is always a delight watching your reviews 👏
@se7enele7en
@se7enele7en 4 ай бұрын
I wish the automobile industry would produce more REX. Also, just surprised that Mazda went with a 50L petrol tank instead of a bigger battery. Isn’t it the whole point is to have the engine as a reserve instead of actually using it. They should have kept the ratio of like what the i3 did. At least match the base 22kwh + 9L
@David_Denali
@David_Denali 6 ай бұрын
Pls make a vid about who to buy what hybrid/EV 🙏 Like isn't a plug in hybrid more efficient on long trips too wn they say it can travel like 700 miles?
@NoahM.Angell-sd4ez
@NoahM.Angell-sd4ez 6 ай бұрын
KZbin would be so boring without your videos
@jdmguy44
@jdmguy44 6 ай бұрын
Had a look at one of these recently in the showroom when my own car was in for a service. I love the design of the MX-30. Distinctive and a bit quirky. The cabin design likewise. Though I've no interest in EV's I would consider a plugin hybrid like this. Its a lovely thing.
@glenndavid8725
@glenndavid8725 6 ай бұрын
When these filter to the second hand market I'll be on it like a tramp on a kipper. 😊
@dennisbrouwer4193
@dennisbrouwer4193 2 ай бұрын
I got this car but then the mx30 rev advantage at home and happy with it, but a lot of people are complaining about getting in on the backseats but do not compare this car with a 5 door car it is more a 3 doors I tell people it is a 4 doors! And when do you sit behind your self I am using the backseats for me kids and testen the room in different plug in hybrids and this space in the back better then others! 36 kw fast charging is not a lot but in his price range the ONLY one that can use a fast charging the other cars that can do that are brands like mercedes!
@keithireland6627
@keithireland6627 2 ай бұрын
Well done son this is the only coherent review of this car. My Lexus UX does 750 km on a 35 litre tank. 🍀🍀🍀
@jonathanstensberg
@jonathanstensberg 6 ай бұрын
The PHEV proves the simple rule that there is no single “best” powertrain that everyone should use. For some people, the PHEV provides the best of both worlds, and for others, it provides the worst of both worlds. Well, but what best suits your needs-and demand the government lets you do what’s best for you.
@edensseven3524
@edensseven3524 6 ай бұрын
Range Extender is the most convenient and the most efficient drivetrain.
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. The battery isn't really that heavy and the engine is very compact. An EV is simply a no-go area for most buyers, so this is the best thing currently available really.
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
Which mate down the pub told u that? 😂
@gilesa.4052
@gilesa.4052 6 ай бұрын
Love it's design. The Mazda garage near me can't seem to give away the electric versions...
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 6 ай бұрын
Doubt that they'll sell many of these too. It is just simply too compromised. Also the rotary engine will give up the ghost in 3 years.
@Emaratilfy
@Emaratilfy 6 ай бұрын
​@@TL-xw6fhno it won't. It's well dimensioned for its sole purpose: to charge the battery
@jambosalad
@jambosalad 6 ай бұрын
Who cares? Mazda gives a 6 years warranty on it.@@TL-xw6fh
@10lassie
@10lassie 3 ай бұрын
Your really good . Very easy to understand you.
@BattleStacker
@BattleStacker 6 ай бұрын
Even with the downsides of the MX-30 it's still a really good ride. The backseat for some drivers is rarely used and is just there to hold some things. The full EV was a mistake from the beginning with a range of only 100 miles. I'm glad they upgraded to the Hybrid.
@Malboja
@Malboja 2 ай бұрын
Or my old 2013 quashqai gets 800 miles on a tank additional Those rear doors look cool but if you are parked in a car park it’s really bad to gain access to the back seats , you have to have the passenger go first open both doors then close the rear before the driver even approaches the car
@Isexwayiso
@Isexwayiso 6 ай бұрын
I am not sure why are you winging about the back seat of this car. You cannot buy a car in that shape and expect VW Caddy sort of space. This is the same thing with a Mini Countryman Coupe.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's a COUPE for crying out loud. Why do people keep forgetting that - and continue to erroneously compare it to a Prius or Ioniq Hybrid? 🙄
@goodfodder
@goodfodder 6 ай бұрын
review missed the most important part, what does the car sound like on the motorway with the rev in motion
@carlosbardales4179
@carlosbardales4179 6 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the now old Chevrolet Volt.... PHEV that gave you 50 some miles pure electric and then did its hybrid thing giving you about 45 mpg. Not bad... I hope they will bring it to the States soon.
@noahreyes643
@noahreyes643 3 ай бұрын
Mazda was originally a cork company which is why there is cork on the interior
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
when you got into the back seat how did you close the front door? The all electric mx 30 had a pretty disapointing electric range so they have made this with less than half the electric range,oops now if they still had the 100 mile electric range with this system , success...what ev car makers seem to have forgotten is charging at home is the cheap to run and convenient bit, now i know people will say ,what if you cant charge at home, simple dont get an ev.
@isaiah123456wp7
@isaiah123456wp7 6 ай бұрын
I wish we were still getting this in the States... 😥
@coolfrost6
@coolfrost6 6 ай бұрын
As a owner of i3 with the range extender(33kwh), i'm a little surprised that the steady state highway petrol consumption is fo 45mpg=16km/l is nearly the same as what the I3 gets. i thought the dedicated rotary generator setup would be better than the modified scooter engine in the I3. and for reference the i3 REX add's 120kg, but has the same size battery as the normal version. where the mx-30 grins 133kg and loses half the battery. For my need the a range extender works well, i use about 9l of fuel every 3000-5000km. good as a safety net and as a way to cut down on charging stops when driving more than 300km a day. But my next car will just be a bigger battery pure EV.
@JoseMariArceta
@JoseMariArceta 6 ай бұрын
I guess the idea for this one is to mostly use electric, hence the pretty large battery for an PHEV. If I recall correctly, rotary engines weren't known for their efficiency, at least compared to a similarly sized Atkinson engine, but it does have the weight advantage and packaging positives. Probably good for a town round about car but not great for families and long road trip I reckon.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
@@JoseMariArceta Rotary engines can be less inefficient if they're tuned for a single RPM (as it would be when used as a generator) - but yes, their main advantages are their small size (for equivalent power) and smoothness of power delivery (less vibration etc as no reciprocating pistons etc)
@JoseMariArceta
@JoseMariArceta 6 ай бұрын
@@logicalChimp Honestly the engine is very cool, and the concept works okay in theory similar to the Nissan e-power series hybrid tech, but the engine used is simply too inefficient at least on the reviews I watched so far. It does not really get as high a mileage as other hybrids, although it is cheaper, I guess there's that.
@gpltd0097
@gpltd0097 6 ай бұрын
With that interior and a gas engine that will be a nice daily driver.
@raedkhmous1292
@raedkhmous1292 Ай бұрын
I really like your reviews
@nickwills6042
@nickwills6042 6 ай бұрын
A sub 3m/kWh EV combines with a sub 30 mpg petrol car. This car makes no sense...but I do love the interior Its a California/EU compliance car and nothing else
@sargfowler9603
@sargfowler9603 6 ай бұрын
The review says it will do 45mpg... EVs just don't have the charging infrastructure yet
@nickwills6042
@nickwills6042 6 ай бұрын
@@sargfowler9603 A few reviewers on Twitter/X have shown pictures of those economy figures from their time with the car. As far as I'm aware, they were charging the car too and not just using the engine
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
@@sargfowler9603 No, the reviewer *speculated* it would do mid-40's (despite an 'official' economy of 200+)... but the in-car display was showing 35mpg :p
@timscott3027
@timscott3027 6 ай бұрын
​@@sargfowler9603EVs do have plenty of infrastructure in some places, not others. If there are no charges near you, don't get an EV.
@lazziebardakos2956
@lazziebardakos2956 2 ай бұрын
Is it really a plug in hybrid? It has a range extender that to me makes much more sense than any plug in. They should have kept the larger battery and then it would have been perfect for many.
@ashkanrmp7442
@ashkanrmp7442 2 ай бұрын
Such a beautiful car with serious lacks!
@Molishious
@Molishious 4 ай бұрын
My Rav4 Prime has almost twice the horsepower in hybrid mode, a lot more horsepower in EV mode, get’s at least as good MPG, has 4 normal doors, knobs and switches and at least as much EV range. He doesn’t mention the MPG in the stats, so I’m not sure how efficient this rotary motor is. Somebody put in the comments section that they were getting only 30 mpg. I get about 38 mpg when I’m using gas. So maybe this works out in price for some, otherwise it’s a real head scratcher to me as to why you would choose this car and why the reviewer would call it Brilliant.
@papalovetoys
@papalovetoys 5 ай бұрын
lovely design for power chain concept , but not good for the car body , if this apply on mazda 3 or CX 5 . this design become prefect
@andrewhayward7088
@andrewhayward7088 6 ай бұрын
But much longer petrol range. The i3 has a 7litre petrol tank, the mx30 has a 50l petrol tank
@tobyhall7617
@tobyhall7617 6 ай бұрын
Makes more sense then a full electric they weigh even more
@MrFatknacker
@MrFatknacker 6 ай бұрын
So basically the same concept as the old BMW i3 Range Extender right down to the suicide rear doors and clever interior, but with less EV range 🥰
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
and the mazda uses more fuel and is slower and is noisier and has a worse turning circle
@l3v1ckUK
@l3v1ckUK 5 ай бұрын
How do they make such big cars with so little room for passengers in the back?
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
i agree it is quite an achievement but what can you expect from a company that has brought back the failed engine.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 6 ай бұрын
Strange that this review came to the opposite conclusion to others. Other reviewers said the car has the practicality of a 2 door sports car, with the range and fuel economy of an RX8. It has none of the good points of a BEV, HEV or ICE car.
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 3 ай бұрын
That's why it is perfect for people that want such a PHEV - with a range extender for very seldom long trips. I'm not at all in their targeted segment (people with a short commuting range < 35 miles) as I am not fancying the electric clunkers (very pollutant, expensive, unreliable, impractical, extremely dangerous and far too controllable by others, but Mazda took over brilliantly this niche.
@lullaboo100
@lullaboo100 Ай бұрын
Further to my comment (lullaboo100) on range. This is how I maximise mpg. O/night battery level usually 59-61 available miles. In EV mode all the time, this is sufficient for most trips (and I live in a rural area). For trips longer than 60 miles, the car is put in ‘Normal’ and 40% charge level. It therefore runs on battery until engine kicks in after 34-36 miles (40% charge remains equivalent to 24 miles). I find that occasionally on a long run, the battery mileage increases from 24 (40%) to 27-28 miles available. At this point I switch back to EV mode until battery level drops to 24 then switch back to ‘Normal’. When I am on last 24 miles from my wall charger, I once again switch back to EV mode and arrive home with battery at zero. I therefore try and maximise the economy. I never use the Charge mode. Expensive on fuel (34mpg) to drive and charge. Far more economical to use Normal as above. As there is no range anxiety with the car, charging it on ‘Charge’ is a high fuel cost while you are driving and is a waste of money. Equally running battery down to zero and the car then adopting its ‘tortoise’ hybrid mode is an expensive battery top up. Far better to let car do its own thing with 40% battery and flicking to EV when there’s an advantage or for those last miles home. If you fiddle with the ‘Charge’ switch, petrol economy plummets. As for washing machine engine noise - you would have to turn off the radio and really listen. Forget it. Not an issue.
@lullaboo100
@lullaboo100 17 күн бұрын
This is not a car for living on a motorway. Here are my figures for 1200 miles of driving. This is mostly local - within EV ‘there and back’ range of 60 miles. Some longer journeys managing fuel as stated previously. I have spent £45 which is 30l over the 1200 miles. That gives 180 mpg. This will improve over next few weeks as I am not doing any 60+ mile trips. On longer journeys Tesco supermarkets (PodPoint) offer 15 m free and then 28p thereafter (7p/mile). Cheaper than the 18-19p/mile if you switch to Charge mode. To buy this car, you have to work out how it will be used. If you’re like me - go for it. Reading motoring correspondents mpg figures, you find they have been fiddling with the Charge mode! Okay it’s a test. Best to keep your fingers off it. Costs money!
@drxym
@drxym 6 ай бұрын
PHEVs are the worst of both worlds - mechanically complex & expensive to service, limited electric range / speed, the need to plug in every day and usually lack of DC charging. This car corrects some of these issues - series hybrid means electric-only drive train at all speeds, 50mile range, DC charging (albeit very crappy rate). I still think it's a terrible idea though. The range of most EVs is over 200 miles and the figure only increases as battery density and technology progresses as do the number of chargers along every route. If you're concerned about the cost of fuel, or just want a spacious, quiet, fast car just buy an EV.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 6 ай бұрын
Not all hybrids are created equal Thr biggest problem with any new car plugin or not is that they are stuck competing as premium and SUVs - which will only inevitably end in an economic crash.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
This would have been far better if they'd kept the original EV range of ~100 miles, and added the REx...
@timscott3027
@timscott3027 6 ай бұрын
​@@logicalChimpbut then it would cost more than the EV. I think they would have been better off making that bonnet shorter and putting in some slightly bigger back seats. I would genuinely consider this car if it had a bit more rear room.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
@@timscott3027 Yeah - agreed that the long-bonnet just doesn't make sense, and that Mazda could have done far better with the interior space, given the size of the exterior footprint.
@jasoncarmichael4540
@jasoncarmichael4540 6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jeyhuan9194
@jeyhuan9194 6 ай бұрын
does anyone even know how to work on rotaries??
@jambosalad
@jambosalad 6 ай бұрын
Mazda does.
@Th0mas3000
@Th0mas3000 2 ай бұрын
Rotaries are more simple then a normal combustion engine
@martynoxley3745
@martynoxley3745 6 ай бұрын
Safety is a problem if an accident jams the front door or disables the driver/ front passenger then how do you get get out of the rear? Ridiculous! No opening windows.
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
Same as every 2 door car
@iroulis
@iroulis Ай бұрын
A Range Extended EV is not a Plug in Hybrid. Please educate yourself on the differences.
@rxs87
@rxs87 6 ай бұрын
This would of been better as a a normal self charging hybrid with a small battery
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
@Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo 3 ай бұрын
Low performance and high fuel consumption is not something I want from a PHEV when driving in hybrid mode.
@gingerb36
@gingerb36 6 ай бұрын
BIK tax rate! Is the sole purpose for me choosing a PHEV as it’ll save well over £100 per month. If we had access to an abundance of on street chargers all over the country then a pure electric vehicle would provide even bigger savings. Hopefully the government will get its act together. As for the Mazda on test, I love its quirkiness, its gorgeous interior and its styling.
@alecmally5433
@alecmally5433 Ай бұрын
Any changes coming in the 2025 models?
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
As a driver of a BEV MX-30, this glowing review would have been 100% correct 5 YEARS AGO. Today PHEVs are irrelevant. If an EV does not meet your lifestyle e.g. No driveway nor charging infrastructure near you and/or you drive 500 miles per day then by all means buy a clunker, 'clean' diesel. For everyone else an EV will suit. 95% of my journeys are
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to understand your very valid point regarding the MX-30 - and I'm mystified as to why they don't get it. It's like Marmite - either you have a taste for it or you don't. This car has my heart and soul - I totally understand why it was built and for whom.....(my lifestyle for sure).
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
@@datathunderstorm TBF it was built as a compliance car for California LOL! Nonetheless Im perfectly happy with it!
@carlmichael5592
@carlmichael5592 5 ай бұрын
Perhaps somebody can enlighten me; I thought the whole point of a hybrid car was that you didn't have to plug it in to charge it i.e. the engine does that. Otherwise what's the point?
@justice4g
@justice4g 4 ай бұрын
this is a full time EV for city dwellers who might take a longer trip occasionally, that's when you use the less efficient generator, it's also a nice back up to have in case of power outages.
@Ambienfinity
@Ambienfinity 6 ай бұрын
Looks good. A quirky RX8 replacement for the EV age. (btw The Zoe's range is admirable, but it's a death trap.)
@tobyhall7617
@tobyhall7617 6 ай бұрын
Its a shame you don't get the same electric range as the full ev just with a petrol engine incase you run out as a thought it was just a range extender not a hybrid like the bmw i3
@muffythevampirelayer
@muffythevampirelayer 6 ай бұрын
The BMW i3 wasn't a hybrid, it was exactly the same principle as this Mazda, with a range extender. It didn't drive the wheels, just charged the battery as required. The battery was bigger and easily gave 120miles range in summer.
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
@@muffythevampirelayer i agree the bmw i3 was better in everyway, so bmw discontinued it as they make more money out of petrol cars converted to electric
@GinoFoto
@GinoFoto 6 ай бұрын
Oddly likable, although intended for only few, which I think is main Mazda' problem, they making innovative, thoughtful products, but with questionable financial sustainability.
@hankreardon6998
@hankreardon6998 6 ай бұрын
Year ending 2023 was record sales in units and profit in NA. Not sure globally, but I love them.
@Salty_reviews
@Salty_reviews 3 ай бұрын
Rotory enthusiasts: This is not what we meant when we said bring back the rotory 😢
@sharkfinn6469
@sharkfinn6469 2 ай бұрын
follow the trend, and you will get that. follow your heart, and you have a vehicle for life. all the gimmicks are getting old. why wont people admit that EV is just not practical for 50% use cases
@AsimSheikh
@AsimSheikh 6 ай бұрын
this is not true for a toyota, in a toyota phev, once the battery runs out, its turns to normal hybrid self-charging battery functions. 😊 thank you very much.
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 6 ай бұрын
If the rotary engine went wrong, how many mechanics are there who know about them?
@sq1rlsqu4d
@sq1rlsqu4d 6 ай бұрын
I used to spanner both rotary and piston engines back in my days as a bike mechanic. The Norton rotaries were considerably easier and less complex to work on than piston engines.
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 6 ай бұрын
@@sq1rlsqu4d if I buy one I'll be in touch (after the warranty expires). Maybe I'd be happier if the eight year warranty was on the engine as well
@piglet5287
@piglet5287 6 ай бұрын
Other road tests suggest overall mpg (aside from EV only mode) is nearer 30 than 40
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
@@piglet5287Modus Operandi for this car is recharge every night. Use the Rotary Range Extender as get home auxiliary power source - and for the occasional long trip. I don’t do long trips anymore. This is for me. More EV less ICE - it’ll be very economical.
@quillber
@quillber 3 ай бұрын
You had me until that rear door...
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 3 ай бұрын
The depreciation in the first year alone is staggering.
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 3 ай бұрын
I do not fancy the very polluting, expensive, unreliable, impractical, extremely dangerous and far too controllable BEV's. But this Mazda is the best [as the only car] for a short distance/city EV (
@PaulCuenin
@PaulCuenin 5 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@yoyyaesta4808
@yoyyaesta4808 6 ай бұрын
For the price you can buy a BYD Atto 3, a MG 4 Long Range, a Cupra Born or for a litte more a Tesla Model 3. Why buy a REEV when there are cheaper BEVs that are very nice to travel with?
@lowfeelsblvd
@lowfeelsblvd 6 ай бұрын
An unproven Chinese car, an MG or a Cupra Born which STARTS at £36k? Yeah great alternatives there...
@Uniongamers
@Uniongamers 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't touch Chinese cars with a barge pole. No company with links to the CCP is getting my money.
@yoyyaesta4808
@yoyyaesta4808 6 ай бұрын
@@lowfeelsblvd BYD unproven? 🤣🤣🤣
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
I'd buy the Mazda MX-30 R-EV because of the unique and original design, the Rotary Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) mated to a potent generator capable of fully charging the battery while you drive (its a brilliant option for emergencies), the different driving modes available, the smooth and quiet BEV driving experience - and even the sound of that Rotary Range Extender up front - I love the sounds engines make - this will be unique. Love the whole package, the premium interior, and the rear seating that ensures your friends don't turn you REGULARLY into their personal Uber everyday. Did I mention nobody will ever mistake you for an Uber? 😊
@yoyyaesta4808
@yoyyaesta4808 6 ай бұрын
@@datathunderstorm 🙄 Ludicrous
@rjdavies1982
@rjdavies1982 6 ай бұрын
Love these - cheapest hybrid - cost? £500+ / month.
@Kosmonooit
@Kosmonooit 2 ай бұрын
Less of the trivial aesthetics more technical details please
@farzadjahanfard
@farzadjahanfard 6 ай бұрын
Its look like the new civic interior and i am Here for it 😍😍
@joewilder
@joewilder 2 ай бұрын
MPG not good enough in normal mode.
@Ayeright.
@Ayeright. 6 ай бұрын
Watch 'JayEmms on Cars' review for an entirely different opinion???
@Martinjlove
@Martinjlove 6 ай бұрын
amazing car we love it!
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 6 ай бұрын
So other than an expensive two seater car, with no boot... it a lovely car! If no-one wants this new, who will want it second hand?
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
Me…!!!
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
Me. Brilliant daily commuter
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 6 ай бұрын
@admol73 Personally, I like Mazda designs and the full MX30 EV is great value second-hand. But it's range just doesn't fit our family needs. We have a Citroën E-C4. It is a little more spacious and does 200+ miles
@silvacrest11
@silvacrest11 6 ай бұрын
interior looks nice, but those rear doors are a deal breaker, pointless design choice that achieves nothing but added stress, boot is small for the size of the car, expensive compared to its rivals, central screen is to small in my opinion to Who is this car for?
@derrick021
@derrick021 6 ай бұрын
wow, my favorite car presenter is finally wearing normal pants ! ah, never mind. they are still tights
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 6 ай бұрын
Plug-in hybrids never made any sense to me. They are as expensive as BEVs, poor EV only range and lower efficiency than EVs when only electric only and poorer fuel economy compared to full hybrids only. If it is purchased to be used primarily for very short distance driving, one might as well buy an old Nissan Leaf and run it to the ground.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
In theory, PHEVs are good for people who can charge at home, but live in an area with limited / no 'public' charging infrastructure (making it hard to do non-local journeys, etc). In reality, automakers take the piss and give PHEVs minimal EV range. This car (if it had 100+ mile EV-only range, plus the REx - which is what most Chinese PHEVs have) *could* be good... but it really does need more EV-only range, imo.
@DeanVowles
@DeanVowles 6 ай бұрын
That Nav screen looks too small to be usable though no?
@brandonpollard8928
@brandonpollard8928 6 ай бұрын
The size of that screen would be okay if it was closer, but it's far away like someone's holding a phone really far from you saying "look at this" 😂
@Emaratilfy
@Emaratilfy 6 ай бұрын
It's 9inches which is more than adequate.
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
It’s perfectly fine.
@brandonpollard8928
@brandonpollard8928 6 ай бұрын
@@Emaratilfy its far away further then other car brands
@Emaratilfy
@Emaratilfy 6 ай бұрын
@@brandonpollard8928 so what? The way they've done the user interface makes it adequate. You have physical buttons and a secondary touch screen. What do you want a 15 inch screen for?
@mtavassoti
@mtavassoti 6 ай бұрын
That mpg is not good at all
@johnminshall242
@johnminshall242 6 ай бұрын
A lot of the MX-30’s drawbacks, unfortunately, still exist with this REX! It’s a recognition I think that Mazda messed-up the original BEV, and this is ideally only just a stop gap until they do a mk2 or can it altogether! Shame, as the design’s lovely (as was Honda’s e, but they’ve canned that!).
@mikejoseph425
@mikejoseph425 5 күн бұрын
The Mazda is not my cup of tea because of the rear doors, I think they fundamentally are a safety concern. It is not a defence to say they are approved as I would be surprised if any driver was totally competent using a touch screen while driving, in fact more danger than using a phone which is banned but nothing is done about touch screen use. I am in no way saying using the phone is acceptable, but give me a politician or a civil servant or rule maker who is any good a their job unless it is of self interest, and I will….. Anyway I digress. You and many other journalists when reporting with these types of cars are missing the point totally with regard to rear and boot space. They are not family cars but couple cars generally of a certain age and basically 2 + 2 with occasional use rear seats of which they work very well I own a Toyota C-HR which suffers the same criticism. I would like you to focus on what these type of audience these cars are aimed at, and report on that Nothing stops you starting the report with “this is not a family car”
@chris-townson
@chris-townson 6 ай бұрын
Looking on the Mazda website it looks like the cheapest R-EV is the Prime-Line at nearly £35k, not £31k stated in the video?
@mordor62
@mordor62 4 ай бұрын
just like the yauxhall ampera did,,,so not new tech?????
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
and the bmw i3 rex they are both better than this mazda
@David_Denali
@David_Denali 6 ай бұрын
It needs a new body
@whocares264
@whocares264 3 ай бұрын
don't we all
@wolvolad25
@wolvolad25 6 ай бұрын
So its basically a two seater 😅 5:13
@jonathancullen1337
@jonathancullen1337 6 ай бұрын
My son is 6' 4 and fits in no problem behind the passenger with the seat moved forward a little. Not for 300 mile journeys though 😂
@timoliver8940
@timoliver8940 6 ай бұрын
I would sooner have a Nissan with the same motive system and that has proper rear doors
@bikeman123
@bikeman123 6 ай бұрын
Mid 40s mpg in hybrid mode! Why bother?
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 6 ай бұрын
Yes, my Ioniq hybrid does 70 mpg. Much bigger car too. Also, wait till the rotary engine gives up the ghost at around 30,000 miles and spend a fortune to replace the engine. Whatever Mazda wants to tell us, there are no materials presently on earth that can limit the wear on the rotor tips. Unlike an ICE engine, the tips cannot be lubricated and separated from the engine block by engine oil.
@lewismcnicholas2631
@lewismcnicholas2631 6 ай бұрын
Yeah - think it really comes down to use case or if having one as a company car due to the low BIK vs a petrol/diesel
@TL-xw6fh
@TL-xw6fh 6 ай бұрын
@@lewismcnicholas2631 Agreed, and that's why I believe the BIK should be eliminated from PHEVs as they are actually the worst of all options between BEV, PHEV, full and even mild hybrids.
@logicalChimp
@logicalChimp 6 ай бұрын
@@TL-xw6fh Rotaries will last far longer than 30k *if they're not turbo'd*. The RX7 lasted ~60k with twin turbos, and the older models (without the turbo) would last 200k+ if maintained (ie regular oil and coolant changes).
@datathunderstorm
@datathunderstorm 6 ай бұрын
Use it as a BEV with a Range Extender - not as a Hybrid. Emphasis should always be on EV mode mostly for greater economy. I totally get this concept. Many do not. It’s not a one size fits all Prius - it’s a specific niche product.
@WatchDSSID
@WatchDSSID 6 ай бұрын
I was initially quite excited at the start of this review, and it does look a nice car from the outside, but the design is totally flawed and I wonder how it got for build - I’m really talking about the back doors/available space in the rear- I often take my grandchildren in the car in the back, but this design would be a “death trap“
@ishaansaral502
@ishaansaral502 6 ай бұрын
They're called suicide doors for a reason. This car should have been scrapped in the design phase.
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
Those doors are a brilliant design. It's basically a 2 door car with funky design. Delighted they exist
@alexk.7250
@alexk.7250 6 ай бұрын
No it isn't. A two/three door car has bigger doors and you can enter easily with folded seats. The problem here is that if there is limited space and you can't open the doors wide you are stuck between them. Also a kid can't close the twin doors from the passenger side once the back door is closed. This is not a problem in a two door, I have one and it works fine. You probably can't exit either from the back in this car!
@gregorybigg8924
@gregorybigg8924 6 ай бұрын
Ridiculous door design, pointless battery life and thirsty real world engine mpg . A complete mess 🙄
@admol73
@admol73 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant door design, battery covers 95% of daily commtes, mph won't matter if you only do mostly daily commute
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