Volvo EX90 review AND range test! How far can this electric SUV go on a full charge? | What Car?

[@jkkchow74]

This was one of the best long reviews ever presented I reckon. Even better than Mr Watson's 😅

[@cbotten106]

Yeah, no drag race here. 😥

[@undustfixation]

Indeed, it's the only review that mentions the much-ballyhooed "It CaN pOwEr YoUr HoMe" marketing tagline when it was first announced. He's also the only reviewer that tested it the way most people are going to use it (e.g. buying stuff, daily city driving likely in traffic in one charge) instead of offroading, launch controls, towing capability, and other impractical info.

[@martincheffert7970]

you are the only one to talk about the payement over the air and V2L V2G. kudos to you !

[@androo4519]

When there are no buttons it's good you mention the voice activation but I don't think I've ever seen a test of whether a car's voice system is good enough to make up for a lack of physical controls.

[@Andreassssssss-iv3wv]

Polestar is the name for you then. It’s the best I have seen. Said the same as you before.

[@robertwalker1742]

I run a XC60, superb underated car, no problems at all in five years build quality is second to none, and although I’m not a EV convert, this is the only one I would consider would be a Volvo. To slam the door the door is the best test.

[@sevensixtysteve8662]

Fantastic review, I guess the location helps but even so, an impressive episode. Taxi light aside, I think it’s a good looking machine although the interior is perhaps playing the ‘understated’ theme a bit too strongly at this price point. It’s also looking a little out of step, with many manufacturers abandoning the no button approach after strong negative feedback. I think there could be a wider problem for Volvo though, the car is late and feels like it’s been around a while now. Some of interest has inevitably waned as other interesting alternatives from the likes of Kia and Hyundai have come along. Those manufacturers also seem to be capable of making their software work. Ultimately, Volvo’s about turn on scrapping saloon and estate production and a facelift for the XC90 tells you all you need to know about EVs - the path to electrification is expensive and not enough people are prepared to pay the cost to convert.

[@urbanstrencan]

Just simply Volvo, but the battery tech and efficiency isn't really it's strong point. We need wagons from Volvo V90 or V6 Cross Country ❤❤❤. Great video 👍😉

[@Decranz-sb7pg]

It's a dream car! Very beautiful and future safe! It will give you many years of excellent and safe driving!🤩

[@anemeth9281]

Well, time will tell

[@InternetExplorer-s9g]

environmental nightmare

[@rjw4762]

Are you a Chinese bot , speaking like that ?

[@Leelee-eu7je]

Did you hear it’s an EV and not an ICE car?

[@jacobandersson3356]

U seems to be a Volvo fanatic, trying defenfing them in many comments. I have seen it and driven it. Not my dream at least, actually pretty disapointed

[@dhulme]

Very nicely filmed guys 👌and good to here the fair criticisms of the car

[@homobohemicus]

LOL... The Ikea bit is funny. I guess a Škoda Kodiaq test must be with kegs of tasty Pilsner beer 😅

[@aye3678]

I'd rather the EV9 to be honest :)

[@podge5555]

You’re on your own there

[@Certago]

​@@podge5555 nope, EV9 looking good in comparison!

[@ricardomiguel3D]

Too much plastic.

[@MrBobberone]

On our C40 with software ota updates we saw a massive increase in mileage, 20% more than the beginning (380 km at the beginning,which was less than the 440km promised, but now after two years we have a 480km real world range)

[@ruddynordin9215]

What Car? deserved at least a million subscribers 🙌🏻

[@LewieMac]

370 miles (will obviously do less) £90-100k+ (will obviously depreciate like a lead balloon 🎈) Half the technology not installed on release

[@bodrulm1]

weighing in nearly 3 tonnes is bonkers for a family car. Big tank, very expensive. Not sure Europe can afford this.

[@CaryInVictoria]

Good review except I thought you were too harsh in complaining about the car's software gliches. The XC40 and C40 also had some software problems at launch but they were fixed fairly quickly with over-the-airware software updates.

[@TomanswerAi]

great non nonsense review. Like the style

[@szymonlorenz7254]

LiDAR was introduced first 2 years ago with Lotus Eletre, so it's an overstatment that Volvo is the first car with said technology. 15:30

[@RoyAndTheCobra]

True, but Lotus also owned by Geely and Eletres also delayed coming out, so most probably similar software related issues. Don't get me wrong, I like all these brands; Volvo, Lotus and Polestar and currently drive an iX as my daily, but this continued trend of releasing cars without all the stated bits and pieces available annoys me.

[@EW-WorldOfTech]

Great review!

[@whatcar]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@CKGoldiing]

Elite review, Doug

[@whatcar]

Thanks!

[@leem5894]

Hi Kris, I have a 2017 XC90 R Design. I want to upgrade to a newer model, I feel this upgrade should have been done in 2019/20 or 2022 at the latest. It's too late for this light update. If it had been done earlier, I would have bought one a 22 model now.

[@kellypaws]

I've had nine Volvos. Not wowed. Palitoy dash leads the parade of disappointments. For that money, this needs to be a better car.

[@Dominator0505]

Alone the lack of buttons for mirrors and climate control will put the car out my buying list. Happy that my EV9 still have all of these.

[@aye3678]

Great review btw. This host is brilliant!

[@whatcar]

Thank you!

[@BabyKermit_]

21:31, no they don't. Air Suspension is not standard unless you go for the Ultra trim.

[@Kurre.]

It’s standard in some markets and optional in others

[@BabyKermit_]

@@Kurre. Where is air suspension standard for the plus trim?

[@Kurre.]

@@BabyKermit_ There are no plus trims in markets such as the UK

[@roblillack]

I’m just three minutes into the vid, but I cannot unsee how the bumpers’ colors aren’t matching the rest of the car. 😂

[@lucassitanggang5154]

Please review about Volvo EM 90. It's better than Toyota Alphard And Lexus LM 350

[@jea1034]

I really hate those HUGE IPADS. Give us some physical buttons!

[@leslielewis5376]

You ain't never lied!

[@TheCJUN]

Why did they make it 1744 mm high and not 1780 mm (XC90 and EV9) or higher?!

[@stevenbarrett7648]

So this Chinese Volvo sells for around £100,000 here in the UK with a range of about 370 miles. Meanwhile in China Zeekr and Nio offer 500 to 600+ miles of range. Nio battery swap 150 kWh batteries are now available across their range of cars offering around 660 miles of real world range but for a fraction of the price. No doubt the China on the road prices will be doubled for Europe and the UK but still far less than this 'Volvo'. I can see this being bought as a Company Car to deal with Corporation Tax but it's not going to be a mainstream car for Joe Public to buy or Lease.

[@Decranz-sb7pg]

It was never meant to be a mainstream car. This is a super modern luxury SUV.

[@anemeth9281]

Agreed Also, pls check the Polestar 4's price in China and here in the UK... 😂

[@stevenbarrett7648]

@@anemeth9281 dropped like a rock!

[@thejfg7741]

You could be right but it’s lazy of motoring journos to keep talking about range. They should be talking about efficiency.

[@andrisromanovskis9363]

@@thejfg7741 Right you are!

[@nrv8013]

Lotus Eletre???

[@cabottaxi]

Far too big for your average UK roads.

[@dorsetdumpling5387]

Quite right! - and while we’re at it let’s get buses, ambulances, lorries, and fire engines off them as well - waaay too big.

[@djdad2482]

Watched first 15 seconds and i think immedately its going to be unaffordable and over £100k... back to my fiat 500

[@Forester15]

You do not have to buy an electric Volvo to experience repeated problems with electronics, current XC40 of my experience has never been fully sorted by Volvo including early problems with the steering. The electric efficiency of this latest model is disappointing, even in California which is generally regarded as car heaven for climate.

[@Donkjnr]

So the car recognises a profil based on mobile phones and then sets the seat, mirrors and steering wheel for that profile. Which is null and void when your partner walks to the car before you when you are the one driving.

[@davidcottrell570]

First world problems, but yes, you’re right. My wife tends to get to the car first and the driver’s seat is way too close in our XC40. Quickest fix is to lock the car and unlock it, but I imagine the hardware here is a lot quicker so the reset easy. Keep in mind that this is a luxury car, so don’t expect a manual option, any more than you would in a Range Rover. You might cross shop the EV9 or Peugeot, but if you’re will to spend this much, value for money isn’t a big deal. Lovely car, and no, I can’t afford one either!

[@f1b1777]

I luv most EV but if Only they had a Real engine instead of batteries. 300 miles in warm weather is Bad compared to the Tesla and the Lucid and other makes that able do Real world 450 miles+ range

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Agreed... But that's because, like all SUVs, the EX90 is as aerodynamic as a flying brick...! We need smaller, more-affordable, more energy-efficient EVs - but, that's sadly not where the big profits are and, as far as manufacturers are concerned, that's their goal...

[@aXimo]

Is this one also 100% Chinese?

[@harrymc523]

designed and engineered in sweden, built in south carolina

[@chionyenkwu2253]

Great vid; Tesla model X not a rival then 🙂

[@johndinsdale1707]

How can this possibly be the future? Why does this get BIK 0% and counts towards the ZEV mandate. Where as the Suzuki swift hybrid is fined £15k per sale? Think about the amount of stuff the world had to move / mine / refine / manufacture to make a 2.7 Tonne tank?

[@InternetExplorer-s9g]

Suzuki swift is for peasants , Volvo is for rich people

[@alisonauchterlonie8212]

It’s bonkers. Far more environmental damage than an ice engine, especially keeping and maintains an older car.

[@leegoodman297]

Pretty straightforward, despite being a hefty beast it doesn't produce emissions on the road so pedestrians aren't breathing in any health damaging chemicals. As vehicles are being produced with an ever increasing percentage of renewable energy the emissions caused from manufacturing are always decreasing, unfortunately for the Suzuki swift hybrids green credentials it's built in Japan which has one of the highest percentages of electricity generation from fossil fuels. So to sum up the Suzuki swift hybrid is both polluting on the road and its manufacturing produces a lot of emissions due to Japan's high use of coal and gas.

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

@@leegoodman297 And American manufacturing runs on love and pixie dust right?

[@ed234e]

Hybrids are for fairy’s. I would rather cycle behind the Volvo that isn’t churning out all the carcinogens that a crappy hybrid is.

[@bodrulm1]

weighing in nearly 3 tonnes is bonkers for a family car. Big tank, very expensive at nearly £100k. Not sure Europe can afford this type of product.

[@MarkFreemam1957]

The ev9 looks better value…..but they are both too expensive to buy new

[@anthonyliddle9305]

"It does look and feel like an expensive car" Well yes that's because it is 🤔

[@wakkadakkaify]

some expensive cars don't feel like they are expensive ;D (recent bmw)

[@mikadavies660]

I really like the style of the EX90 and XC90 however, I dislike the everything "in the tablet" without any buttons at all. I also wonder if Kia EV9 has similar range at around £20,000 cheaper.

[@Kurre.]

The KIA has a plastic interior and is a lot more expensive in all markets except the US. The EX90 undercuts the KIA EV9 in most of Europe but the cheaper Volvo models aren’t offered in the US or UK

[@jacobandersson3356]

EV9​ is at least clearly cheaper in sweden than the ex90.@@Kurre.

[@SaK-w4c]

Collision avoidance really needed with that user interface 😂

[@Jmcg1959]

Why are car companies still allowed to tell lies about range.

[@Leelee-eu7je]

Because the tests are carefully set up and controlled in a nab environment to squeeze out the best possible results. In real world weather, driving conditions, using stereo, Air Con, wipers, heater, heated seats, heated steering wheel, front demister, rear demi’s tee no chance.

[@husamrabie8816]

Cool

[@MrNozyk]

Seriously, who's buying this kind of car? Who needs 7 seats? Most of the time there's only one person who drives and that's it.

[@MrCipam123]

Maybe people with kids ?

[@MrNozyk]

5 kids? Who's nowadays having 5 kids??? You'd have to give it as a benefit option along with the rest.

[@MrCipam123]

@@MrNozykYou don't need 5 kids man. If you have very small children, on longer trips the mother needs to sit whit them on the back seat, so you can't fit more then two kids in a normal car.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

@@MrCipam123 really....? My mother never sat in the back with me, or any of my brothers, on car trips - and we all turned out OK... 🤪

[@davidcottrell570]

@@MrNozyk Given the number of XC90s, luxury vehicles and EVs where I live, the EX90 will do fine in coastal North America. We have three grandkids, and they have friends. Their dad runs a business and has an EV. They might get the Rivian, because they tow a 9m trailer. But for luxury, this is pretty nice.

[@MattyThomas86]

The EX30 should of come with the same display and heads up

[@kasimkilic]

Volvo lost its soul after Chinese edition ...

[@Decranz-sb7pg]

No, they certainly did not. It is still a very Scandinavian designed car! :)

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@Decranz-sb7pg People have this odd perception of Volvo that somehow they turned Chinese when Geely bought them. to the contrary, they remained Volvo but with much better funding and organization than with Ford. And it's Ford that had more content in Volvos than does Geely.

[@limpet7r63]

People will buy this 2.7 tonne hulk of metal, lithium and other materials and think they are saving the planet. What a time to be alive!

[@Kurre.]

Well gas cars like the Mercedes GLS and Audi Q7 are only about 200kg lighter and consume huge amounts of gas and emit a lot in urban environments. The local emissions cause cancer and other respiratory diseases which electric cars don’t contribute to. Fracking which is used to drill oil destroys entire ecosystems and water supplies for millions of people every year. The metals in EVs aren’t always clean but they can only be dug up once and the they will be recycled infinitely which gas can’t be…

[@OrionAerospaceKSP]

Not yet. Once we can recycle the batteries and material the car's made of, and power the car with renewable electricity, then it makes more sense. Despite all this, it's still significantly better for the environment than a gas equivalent. Take a look at what Polestar is doing to make their entire vehicle body recyclable.

[@kokovox]

People who want a 3 row suv want a 3 row suv. It better be electric because 3 row internal combination options have terrible gas milage.

[@limpet7r63]

@@kokovox Not necessarily. We run a mk1 XC90 D5. It averages 30 mpg in mixed use (including towing both a horse and car trailer at least once a month), and will comfortably return 40 on a longer run. 500-600 miles to a tank.

[@daphnescombine]

@@limpet7r63still pumping out CO2.

[@colonelccccc]

96K ? Bro I can buy a descent CESSNA with that kind of money, and that's a PLANE.

[@s111nps]

What’s happened with efficiency? I thought newer EV,s would be more efficient. My Enyaq is just as good and half the price. Shame it’s so expensive being Chinese built. I bet this won’t attract new buyers to the brand. Thanks for the content.

[@thejfg7741]

Weight. EV’s are undone by weighty big cars. It’s a vicious circle of adding a bigger heavier battery pack to improve range, but it’s adding weight. It’s one the tipping points tech needs to overcome

[@InternetExplorer-s9g]

tesla made in china have better build quality than tesla made in usa

[@Kurre.]

The EX90 is half a meter longer than an Enyaq and the cars in this video are the 500 bhp versions… it’s not a fair comparison

[@openmindedbloke]

'Hey Google, set temperature to 21.5'. Very easy.

[@olafek42]

It is not one of the first cars with lidar. There are lost of chinese cars with this technology on the market for years now.

[@InternetExplorer-s9g]

Volvo is a Chinese car

[@olafek42]

@InternetExplorer-s9g yes, it is. I ment different brands. In the video it sounded as it is something new whil it has been on a market for a while now.

[@Jii-gc7zy]

So real range is almost 20% lower than promised. Not good.

[@Kurre.]

No gas car will get its advertised MPG at 60-70 mph… And your gas car doesn’t have 500 bhp

[@lungulet]

Drive at motorway speed on a winter day and you will be lucky to get 60% of what Volvo promises.

[@tonevalentin]

20% less range it’s like standard for EVs. Plus another -20% range in winter. Very important is the average speed which in many tests is not mentioned. Unfortunately

[@lungulet]

Yap! in this test the average speed was low....

[@jonathantaylor1998]

@@tonevalentin no different to ANY combustion-engined estimated mpg. My wife's Yaris is 'supposed' to do over 80mpg - we've run it for over 7 years and THE absolute best we've ever had over that time is 60.1mpg, so about 75% of the manufacturer's claimed mpg...! And in winter, that drops further again to around 48-49mpg - so about another 18% winter range drop. As for EV range drops in winter - it's not always as bad as you suggest (though, in some cases, admittedly, it's actually worse...!) Every year, they run a winter range comparison in Norway - of the 23 EVs they tested last year, real-world winter ranges vs WLTP dropped between 5.9% to 28.3%. Interestingly, this car's direct rival - the Kia EV9 7-seater - only dropped 12.5% compared to WLTP.

[@vp272]

Volvo no longer look “premium” inside (perceived quality, seat materials and dash touch points) or out (the face without a grill and awkward lights no doubt are the main factors). When manufacturers like Mercedes are dropping their EQ range due to customers not liking the swoopy styling volvo seem to be pushing ahead. Pains me to say it but the KIA EV9 looks just as posh in real life and substantially cheaper

[@anemeth9281]

I saw and sat in the EX90 prototype last Summer. It is not as big as you would think

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Looks quite premium to me.

[@anemeth9281]

@@benjaminsmith2287 I sat in the prototype last Summer. It is premium, but cannot compare to BMW, Merc or Audi

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@anemeth9281 I think it compares fine to those cars. Some BMWs are very nice. Audi isn't as nice as they used to be. Mercedes are becoming borderline gaudy IMO. Volvo continues to be understated Scandinavian and I like that.

[@anemeth9281]

@@benjaminsmith2287 I LOVE Volvo! But I guess you have not seen this car personally. It just does not feel as upmarket as other Volvos

[@LisaClark-t6y]

Sipes Garden

[@gerogerogerotczew]

It is not a Chinese brand?

[@benjaminsmith2287]

No, it's a Swedish brand with a Chinese parent company.

[@SusieSmart]

Owned by Geely since 2010, catch up 🙄

[@benjaminsmith2287]

@@SusieSmart STop it. Owned by Geely just means Geely is the parent company. People saying that makes Volvo Chinese are simply clueless. Volvo hasn't changed. They're still the Swedish based European car company they were, just financed by Geely rather than Ford.

[@thomash2806]

Can we still say Swedish when it’s Chinese? Too big, too heavy, too inefficient.

[@gustavgyll3291]

Designed, engineered and developed in Sweden. Volvo is located in Sweden. The majority owner of Volvo is Chinese and like many other cars from all car companies it’s built in China and the US. It’s no less Swedish than any other company that builds cars in China. Most companies that you can find on the stock market have minority or majority ownership by foreign investors.

[@SusieSmart]

They’ve been owned by Geely since 2010, maybe I dunno …. People just need to get over it 🤷‍♂️

[@thomash2806]

@@gustavgyll3291 A film is American if the producer is American. It is German if the producer is German. It doesn’t matter who the crew are, who the writer and director are, or where it’s made or what language it’s in. Only the producer matters. Just wondering how that works in the auto industry. Of course most battery tech has some links with China. But if the owner is Chinese then I suppose green-lighting production comes from China. So if it follows the same rule as the film industry, it’s Chinese.

[@anakinskywalker4113]

Great more complicated computers that will fail at some point in time. Just wait until they start breaking down & no one knows how to fix the stupid things.

[@666JGNotts]

Too big, too heavy and too expensive . The efficiency that you experienced was woeful in my opinion. They obviously held this even in LA to try and flatter the car but that has failed. An average speed of 28mph in those temperatures and with no 70mph driving should be more efficient than that. In the UK in colder months I dread to think what the efficiency will be

[@Certago]

Well done Kia!

[@actuallypaulstanley]

Sigh. Lack of physical buttons, all in the tablet-style infotainment system… Lazy reporting…

[@Edward-bn2vw]

Those touchscreens would make me NOT buy it.

[@piglet5287]

I wonder how many used car buyers will want to take a risk on such a complicated machine after, say, five years

[@Xenofanis]

Επιτέλους, οθόνη πίσω από το τιμόνι

[@geoffhemingway3926]

Loads of Chinese cars have LIDAR - it's nothing new, just that the Chinese are so far in front!

[@Vtech-bp1fj]

Why would you buy this over a Kia EV9?

[@firstnamelastname9631]

the badge dear the badge

[@abelisraelcruzayuso4682]

2.7 tons? Nope.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

You best cancel your diesel Range Rover order then, too...!! 😉

[@n8n8n8n]

Wonder when this pricing madness will end, I hope european companies will go back to the reason soon, if not - china will take over.

[@Leelee-eu7je]

How sad, only 2.7 tons kerb weight. I would have loved to get one, but it really needs to be more competitive with BMW and exceed 3 tons and be at least 36” longer, 24” wider and 12” taller. Then I think my wife would feel safe driving our 5 year 400 meters to school. In other words another pointless EV nobody asked for or wants.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

I think you meant to say, "In other words another pointless SUV nobody asked for or wants"...??? They're all as utterly pointless and unnecessary, irrespective of what powers them.

[@TillOverHill]

3.1miles per kwh huh, very sustainable indeed. Another chapter in pointless EVs this one. Glad they're refreshing the XC90 with hopefully, actually sustainable engines that are not efficient only in dreams.

[@JG-ib7xk]

Imagine if half the investment that's been put in to electric vehicles had been put in to developing alternative fuels. They already exist but are ludicrously expensive. We could all keep our ICE engined cars and not pollute. Instead of pushing the pollution further down the road and relying on children mining cobalt.

[@SusieSmart]

eFuels at the moment require around 20kWh of energy to produce a single litre of fuel. The fuel tank of the current petrol powered B6 XC90 is 71L so you’re going to need to use around 1,420 kWh of energy just to produce the fuel needed to fill the tank never mind transport it etc. That 71L of fuel will give the XC90 a range of around 519 miles according to the WLTP efficiency figures or just 0.37 mi/kWh. The official range of the EX90 is 364 miles from a usable battery capacity of 107 kWh which gives it an efficiency of 3.4 mi/kWh. Increases in efficiency can obviously come with time and research, but not an 800% improvements!

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Alternative (synthetic) fuels are honestly only being developed by Porsche (primarily) in order to try and offer their wealthiest customers the opportunity to continue to run their heritage products - they really aren't ever going to become viable for your average Jo/e to purchase. As for the cobalt comment, the very item you used to type out that anti-EV sleight probably contains cobalt in its battery... And, I trust you're not planning on jetting off anywhere on holiday this year - since your anti-cobalt principle means you'll have to boycott the high-temperature steels used in aeroplane engines - they use cobalt... Oh and no more MRI scans for you either - the magnets in those contain cobalt... And, sorry to tell you, but you won't be buying any more petrol or diesel either - refineries have been using cobalt to reduce the sulphur content of fuels since the mid-70s. Sorry...

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

Luxury? it doesnt have any leather.

[@royed31]

Another bland SUV

[@rjw4762]

WhatCar is doing what it does - review cars - but really, it's time to accept that EVs are the Betamax of automobiles. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE NOW SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE - HUGELY EXPENSIVE TO BUY AND SERVICE, AND MASSIVE DEPRECIATION which wipes out the benefits of lower running costs. And of course, the UK does not have the infrastructure to cope with the Government desire to have us all driving EVS in 30 years. Glad to see that Ford are back-tracking on EV development. Americans will NEVER take to EVs. Sorry to be political - but China is loving this daily propaganda about buying EVS....because THEY are the main producers of Batteries.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Honestly, with one or two exceptions, EV depreciation is no worse than equivalent combustion-engined vehicles. Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value. And, even at the 'sensible' end of the market… A brand new, entry-level Skoda Fabia 1.0 petrol city car with an automatic gearbox can be bought for £19,390 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old example with 43,000 miles sells at £10,995 = 57% resale value. The equivalent, brand new, 200 mile range Peugeot e-208 city car with an automatic 'gearbox' can be bought for £22,490 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old example with 38,000 miles sells at £11,295 = 50% resale value, so only a 7% difference.

[@rjw4762]

@@jonathantaylor1998 FOr clarity, I love the choice of an EV - or NOT !! My issue is that Governments are forcing this upon us - eventually, if you're a young driver wanting their first car - a £4,000 Citroen C1, say - will such a car be LEGAL TO BUY !?!? Instead - nothwithstanding the depreciation - they won't be able to get anything under £15,000 ? The Winners in all of this are the Chinese......Western Politicians are in their pocket.

[@kordaxmint533]

I'd buy X5/X7 over this sht any day.

[@MrMarcob73]

120k than the used value drop about 99% Chinese junk

[@InternetExplorer-s9g]

better than anything made is usa,

[@robsmall6466]

​@@InternetExplorer-s9gIt is made in the USA apparently

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Sure, there are some stupidly expensive, high-end EVs that lose a ton of money in depreciation - though, exactly in the same way that stupidly expensive, high-end combustion-engined cars do, too. Right now, on Autotrader, you can buy a brand new, unregistered Audi e-tron GT Vorsprung for £98,635 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 used model with 27,000 miles is selling at £52,194 = 53% resale value. Compare that to, for example, the BMW 840i M-Sport Gran Coupe - that can be bought, brand new, unregistered for £65,495 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old, 2021 used model with 42,000 miles is selling at £32,985 = 50% resale value. And, even at the 'sensible' end of the market… A brand new, entry-level Skoda Fabia 1.0 petrol city car with an automatic gearbox can be bought for £19,390 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old example with 43,000 miles sells at £10,995 = 57% resale value. The equivalent, brand new, 200 mile range Peugeot e-208 city car with an automatic 'gearbox' can be bought for £22,490 after discounts. The cheapest, 3 year old example with 38,000 miles sells at £11,295 = 50% resale value, so only a 7% difference.

[@jameschick3551]

Don’t like electric vehicles,,,,,

[@daviddenley3512]

Too expensive by far!

[@angrynortherner3805]

Dangerous distracting and pointless car that will have minimal range with a family loaded up in it!!

[@PhilipDjaferis]

who cares?

[@diogoarcipreti1833]

Electric cars 🤮

[@russ6362]

That’s an ugly car

[@SaK-w4c]

Very expensive brick