10 Controversial Comic Book Deaths Fans Hated

Seriously... can Wally West never catch a break?!
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[@Nerwrax15]

The Ultimatum spot really should be counted as "Damn near everyone"

[@CorbCorbin]

Hulk ate people too

[@esecretlangel9130]

Let's just pretend that the Ultimatum didn't exist for a while

[@QuassDebonair]

I remember reading that book and was like jez, they're just killing everybody right and left.

[@LorenzoLol1111]

Felt bad for Wasp, she was really good in that comic series

[@toastwings9358]

@Nick i don't think either of those were from ultimatum

[@ii3lazelordz267]

The fastest man alive killed by Harley Quinn, damn, no respect

[@dardestroy4502]

Bs! Flash speed walks and he can travel quicker than her brain can process. Definition of “a**pull!

[@MrMike11233]

Don't even get me started. Heroes In Crisis put Harley against Batman, Superman *and* Wonder Woman. Somehow, she defeated them all & escaped. No respect indeed.

[@liltylenol5473]

Dar destroy you know you can swear on the Internet right?

[@wallywest4727]

Fastest thing alive so yeah fucking joke.

[@chard6079]

Gaurav Das what if the new savitor/Wally kill the Wally in hero in crisis moment before Harley hit h with the mallet

[@harrymintz9960]

I think dc just has it out for redheads

[@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220]

Who is charge of DC? Eric Cartman.

[@ZoanBlade90]

@@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220 Close, Dan Didio.

[@Tony-oh]

@@ZoanBlade90 what's the difference

[@ZoanBlade90]

@@Tony-oh (Insert Rim Shot Here)

[@ComicBookGuy420]

@PissedOff RebelinMI well played

[@ericmiller93]

Jeph Loeb, you really broke my heart with Ultimatum. How could the man who wrote The Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Hush, Spider-man blue, DareDevil yellow, Hulk gray, and Captain America white write something so terrible?

[@diegodunn-humphrey512]

Well there’s frank miller

[@danielarmstrong2144]

You totally missed the point of why tony took that side in civil war 2. He didn't forget the side he was on in the first one. He's learned he was wrong and he's grown as a character and as a leader since then

[@nidalderoo3448]

True. This time he was even on the morally good side. You could even say this was his redeeming moment and he still tries to make up for what he has done and gets hate for what e did from time to time. Carol is the one that just got off easy

[@nidalderoo3448]

The Lone Wolf how they pretty much always show that the classics are better, but the newer ones win in the story.

[@nidalderoo3448]

The Lone Wolf it’s because they were concepts that someone actually used his imagination for. These “Legacy” characters are pretty much just earlier concepts that are changed a little and than become important for their race and sex. Ironman billionaire tech genius who built an advanced armor and became a superhero that was something. Ironheart taking over when Tony got into a coma and became a superhero in a similar armor while being so great because she is a young black female genius not so much. And I mean they could work if executed right. Captain Marvel for example. Monica Rambeau took over as Captain Marvel, but she was original in her own right. She wasn’t some recycled character she had a different origin, different powers, different aspects. They only shared an alias

[@jfdrac]

@@nidalderoo3448 Yeah the best Legacy are those like Kamala Khan or Jamie Reyes who take a previous character and do a lot more...while Riri is literally a copy gender and race swapped nothing really new...Th eonly Carbon copy that ever really caught on was Kate Bishop (and even then only with hatrdcore fans)

[@therealsamasima]

I agree, Tony had grown and Cap Marvel was acting as a hypocrite.

[@Decembirth]

Well, guess I'll mourn War Machine and Black Goliath on my own.

[@kapovellithapimp9722]

I'm here with you family

[@theamazingspiral]

War Machine is already back, chief

[@krizash]

@@theamazingspiral Yeah but his death really pissed me off. Completely unnecessary.

[@MrMike11233]

Wish I could give this comment more than one thumbs up.

[@incomingtransmition5516]

@@theamazingspiral how in the hell did he come back

[@vitormateussm]

“Civil War 2: War Harder” I’m dying

[@williamhemming8228]

The best, and yet most unfortunate, death goes to Ted Kord. He died so unnecessarily because none of his "friends" and fellow heroes could be bothered to believe and help him. They all dismissed him and his claims of a secret threat, leaving him to pursue it alone. He quickly wound up completely in over his head. He was coldly and casually executed with a bullet to the head.

[@FangsFirst]

Annnnd the entire plot centered around a nonsensical heel turn for Max Lord, who we knew *from internal monologue* was not evil, though certainly a bit twisted. See: his creators (Giffen/DeMatteis/Maguire) mocking the whole storyline in their continuation of the Justice League they built him for.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

Jaime's better anyway

[@StarkRavingHazlenuts]

@@ComicBookGuy420 I love the Mentor-Protogé relationship Jamie and Ted had in Blue Beetle Rebirth. And I nearly cried when Ted rescued Booster Gold in his old Blue Beetle outfit in Heroes In Crisis.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

@@StarkRavingHazlenuts as far as mentor relationships I liked the one he had with Peacemaker, and the relationship he has with Traci 13, ads some extra humanity to jaime, ya know its funny, everyone remembers Ted and Jaime, but the original, Dan Garrett, from the 40's constantly gets overlooked, PS Booster Gold rules, yeah he does

[@StarkRavingHazlenuts]

@@ComicBookGuy420 Yeah. Blue N Gold together forever! P.S: Yeah, It is weird that almost no one remembers the original Justice League of Earth-2 ( Alan Scott, Kara Zor-El, Jay Garrick just to name a few...)

[@scottyknoxville]

Comic book deaths are appreciated. When they stick. Which is never.

[@phantomknight6428]

Original Captain Marvel never came back Probably because he was never that popular and his death was a great story.

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

That and when the death is actually fitting and respectable for the character.

[@jeremyhall2727]

Lol ikr

[@Lexman509]

Thunderbird!

[@RobertGreenwald]

Gwen Stacy (616) Thunderbird Petra Sway Vulcan Goliath Wildcat (Yolanda Mendez) Al Pratt, the original Atom Ted Knight. the original Starman Pantha Mar-Vell

[@PhirePhlame]

Fun fact: comics are collaboratively written, so even if one writer really means to kill off Captain Hero, another can just come along and resurrect him.

[@OmicronX-1999]

Which is what inevitably happens.

[@atommidas200]

That explains alot

[@CybermanKing]

Jason Todd was pretty big since the fans killed him off

[@davemaster1106]

Cyberman King but since this is a list of deaths fans hated wouldn’t fit since they wanted him dead

[@jprime9748]

@@davemaster1106 No, they didnt want it death someone tricked DC Comics

[@TheLordNugget]

Todd's death was well written. His resurrection as well. This isn't a case of one that was done poorly. Yes, we got the obligatory resurrection, but it was an after the fact sort of telling that made for a good storyline.

[@SeekerLancer]

@@TheLordNugget Also unlike most characters Todd stayed dead for a very long time.

[@petrgalko4152]

I actually liked Doc Oc taking over Peters body. It showed you Spidey verse in completly different light. A breath of fresh air.

[@greaterfaydark9428]

The Punisher getting hacked up into pieces then turned into a Frankenstein character was one of the final straws for me. Haven't bought a comic since.

[@dragonkyng]

“Seemingly forgetting his role in the previous conflict” Or he learned his lesson? Why is this channel so against growth sometimes?

[@Pazenator]

Civil War 1 Iron Man: Let's register and train everyone that wants to be a hero so there isn't a gross misuse of power and we can prevent Civilian Casulties, although this would require them to not have a secret identy. Those that don't want to be heroes atleast have to register themselves as superhumans. Civil War 2 Iron Man: I'm against arresting and treating them as criminals because of a precognition that's not even 100% sure but rather based on probability calculations. I swear to god, for having knowledge about so many comics he seems kinda...... stupid.

[@abelj5145]

You're loved more than you could ever know. Tha ks for existing. Jesus loves you. Isaiah 43:2 When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze.

[@UnholyWrath3277]

@@abelj5145 ... What does that have anything to do with the conversation at hand? I'm genuinely curious lol

[@xanmanskaggs216]

@@UnholyWrath3277 no not at all

[@smithcubs]

@@UnholyWrath3277 nothing at all, just that for those that are ready to receive it, can see it and be saved.

[@TwippyTwilight]

Hal Jordan's death was huge and controversial, it split the fan base. How Hal's death wasn't mentioned is strange.

[@FangsFirst]

Though so often lost is that his book wasn't selling that well--and sales took off and stayed up (yes, even with H.E.A.T. out there!) after Kyle was introduced, until pretty late in his run.

[@domineeksanford8043]

The Death of Jade was Awesome & Controversial too. Alan Scott the Original GL's Daughter.

[@yoshinamikaze0077]

This is my list. 10.Wally West 9.Wally West 8.Wally West 7.Wally West 6.Wally West 5.Wally West 4.Wally West 3.Wally West 2.Wally West 1.Wally West

[@samuelclemons3686]

Let Tom king finish his f'n story, then decide jeez its like no one has ever read one of his stories before

[@qty1315]

Wally West: Wanna see me die ten times? Wanna see me do it again?

[@someguy9345]

Yoshi Namikaze 007 you nearly forgot Wally West smh

[@INFERNO95]

Yoshi Namikaze 007 Dan dedio need to go.

[@juliopizarro2937]

Wally is the Killer

[@rpvisual6192]

These title cards and font look like they were done on windows movie maker. You guys are better than that.

[@PrimalZ1]

Agreed

[@songokussj3]

It's like someone told them to go back to their roots and this was the result.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

RPVisual that’s an insult to Windows Movie Maker

[@Luka1180]

no u

[@billysinge8977]

Sean Price are they? I haven’t followed WWE for a while so I didn’t see but dang. It must look really tacky

[@mikaelcrews7232]

The death of Jason Todd was a big blow! His resurrection was even more jaw dropping! He needs more of his own comics! He needs the ultimate showdown with all four of his personal demons!

[@jbcatz5]

One major problem I had with Bruce’s death in Civil War II was that in the Totally Awesome Hulk series that was running at the time where Amadeus Cho was the Hulk after Bruce had disappeared, Bruce had returned drained of all gamma radiation. He’d put himself in deadly situations and no appearance by the big guy, and Tony himself had scanned him, confirming no gamma. So Bendis, in typical Bendis fashion, has ignored the continuity of another title so he can have his story. This aside, Carol acted like a moron anyway. She hears that Bruce may Hulk out, so you’d think she’d do some research, check in with Tony or someone who can verify whether this is likely. Maybe even get someone in with him who can keep an eye on him. But no, she goes in with dozens of soldiers and other superheroes all guns blazing and is surprised when shit hits the fan. But it gets worse. Carol knows Amadeus Cho has taken up the mantle of Hulk, and takes the same tactless approach with him. You know, the guy mourning Bruce and confirmed to be the active Hulk. Civil War II is a crap event.

[@ProfessorChaos56]

Arsenal's death in HIC and Ryan Choi's in Titans: Villains for Hire should be on here! Also maybe Firestorm's in Identity Crisis, Artemis's in The Culling, and Terry Mcginnis's in Futures End.

[@rudevoices9204]

All have pissed me off, especially Arsenal (because he had the only good testimony), Firestorm, and Artemis

[@Mrjoshdance]

I think fans “hated” Superman’s death for different reasons than you listed. Fans hated it because it was Superman! People like myself, whom Superman is their favourite hero of all-time, felt actual loss at the time. Remember that not a single issue of Superman comics was printed for three months after he died. Then it went into Funeral For A Friend even before we got Reign of the Supermen. Looking back over 25 years ago, yes it was clear they had a plan to resurrect him, but there was actual fear that if Superman were to come back he wouldn’t be the same character. Fans did not hate it because we thought it was a cheap shot or whatever your reasoning was. This is coming from a guy who was around at the time, going into comic book stores anticipating each issue.

[@Doujxn]

Josh Nitkin I give Superman’s character a 6/10

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

@@Doujxn nah Superman is honestly underrated in a sense. Everyone says hes boring when he really isnt

[@ltownmoose]

Man... absolutely.

[@joewilson3393]

The death of superman was shocking, but what killed it for me was his resurrection. Then, breaking their own rules and allowing him to kill doomsday at will pretty much ended comics for me. It was at that point that I realized they would always just bring them back if it was convenient and there was no more thrill in the stories for me.

[@soundwavegamer2321]

Hey you guys do realize jean gray is much worse there’s a reason we call killing and resurrecting and comic character “pulling a Jean Gray.”

[@PlusOne2Crit]

Never heard it called that until now.

[@garywillig5143]

So an iconic, well-told story is worse than stories that crapped all over the characters and their fans? The Death of Superman is one of the best deaths ever in a comic book. Crap like the deaths of Stephanie Brown, Sue Dibny, Cyclops in Death of X, ect. are a million times worse. A lot of fans actually enjoyed the Death of Superman, because it turns out people enjoy stories with good characters, action, and writing. Was there a single Cyclops fan who liked what they did to him in Death of X or Elongated Man fan who liked what they did to Sue?

[@Mrjoshdance]

Exactly! Fans didn’t hate the story or how Superman died... they hated the fact that he died in the first place! And can still recognize a great story. The whole arc of Death to the Return of Superman is fantastic!

[@merchantfan]

Yeah there were so many other bad deaths. Death of Superman was a pretty good story. I still remember the image of Pa Kent having the heart attack in the field (it's this big zoom out shot) after he finds out the news.

[@steveking1037]

The only bad thing Death of Superman did was get the idea into comic creator heads that introducing a new character out of nowhere and killing off a hero equals "sales."

[@nateromero3635]

Not only that, but we got two good characters out of it. Super boy and cyborg superman

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

@@nateromero3635 you forgot Steel.

[@clayisahottie]

The problem with comic book deaths is that, outside of a few rare exceptions, it becomes pointless since nobody stays dead. Making it not really have any meaning/impact in the first place.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

Well yeah but in very rare cases, Jason Todd - Red Hood, it makes a serious impact, those are very rare cases though, Superman pissed me off through cause ya just knew he was comin back

[@toxicmailman]

5.Cyclops in X3 4.Most deaths in Countdown to final Crisis 3.Firestorm in Identity Crisis 2.Most Injustice deaths 1.Wally West

[@KingOfDepravity]

You thought civil war was bad? It was so dark and gritty, I loved it.

[@Q19484]

*death in dc universes* thousands of cries or angry mobs gathering *death in dragon ball z* so umm lets collect the dragon ballz and revive krillian again.

[@ironmaster6496]

at this point its pointless for the DCU or the marvel characters to mpoun someones death when they KNOW the will come back anyways

[@jfdrac]

@@ironmaster6496 Unless you are the Human Bee or the Gay Ghost

[@UnstableEquilibrium]

You mean Yamcha, right?

[@bigwingedkuriboh]

Dragonball establishes resurrection from the start, it didn’t need to ever to lie to capture an audience, but then again the real difference with comics and manga is that manga ends which makes interesting people much easier because stakes can actually be real as there isn’t always a status quo to go back to.

[@CloudStrife-rw8bj]

If you didn't think Goku's Sacrifice was sad, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, he could be brought back, yeah, Akira Toriyama isn't the best writer. But that scene absolutely tugs at my heart strings. So does Vegeta's Atonement.

[@zacharycollins9485]

The Blob cannibalizing The Wasp in Ultimatum literally made me sick to my stomach. I was like, "Eeww! What in the hell is that all about!? What were they thinking!? So gross!" 😮

[@moombadoomtrooper8590]

DC only killed off Wally and Ivy purely for shock value, there is literally no reason to have killed them off in the way that they did at the time that they did. They need to learn that you never kill off some of your most popular characters just because you can and not have a valid reason behind it. Of course this wasn't be the first time that they spend so much time developing characters just to kill them off in a nonsensical way.

[@hexum7]

Gaurav Das and you know this how? I mean (Spoiler Alert) it doesn't look like the bodies are the actual heroes, but the how did you come up with the rest?

[@ComicBookGuy420]

Comic book sales take a dive, they start looking for someone to kill

[@kirak1561]

Angellicus Wally isn’t dead if you look at the Solicitations& Ivy’s Death doesn’t bother me, because she’s a joke since years. No loss here.

[@sushitime8622]

Needless cruelty seems to be the theme these days. Well, thank goodness for anime.

[@TAG152gaming]

lol those numbered titles look like they're from a 10-year-old music lyrics video from early 2009 with a maximum video quality of 240p

[@RecoveringLoLAddict]

Wasp actually died by drowning then the Blob found her corpse, just to clarify.

[@CFRF13]

Not so sure about that. They said he was eating her corpse but didn’t specify if she was dead when Blob found her (just mentioning that because it looks like she was coughing up blood before dying, normally a symptom of someone biting into your lungs/digestive track and yes I’ve watched too many horror films).

[@ThomasFishwick]

Death of Superman had another knock on effect that's often looked. At the time there was a sub-plot about Clark and Lois getting married. The marriage being sort of canceled with his death, but as pointed out it was all planned to go through in the end with the pair finally tying the knot at the end of the story arc after the resurrection. The problem. The TV series at the time, Lois and Clark:- The New Adventures of Superman, was also doing doing the marriage arc thing. It was supposed to tie in with the comics, but no one in the Comics writer's room told the TV writers what was happening. So it looked like it was all going to happen on TV months before the comics. DC licensing couldn't have that and told the show it couldn't marry the two until after the Comics. The result was the third season of Lois and Clark. A confused mess with everything pulled straight from the big book of both bad comic clichés AND hack Soap Opera drama. Clones, Memory loss, sudden reveal that a character was already married. They threw everything at it just to drag on the plot out until the comics said they could go ahead with the marriage. It pretty much killed the show.

[@geardog24]

4:12 Hey I found Waldo.

[@AkumaKristian]

Fun Fact: (that you probably realized from the video) Waldo is called Wally in the UK, hence the joke there.

[@galacticdino]

You cant negate that superior spiderman is amazing

[@energicko]

Daredevil cover of Kingpin. Sinking lifelessly below New York harbor. Blood trails shaped like *DD* symbol. Implied death or not, that was savage!

[@deadpoolregeneratedegenera1683]

10) I remember that. Despite knowing she’d be back, I was still sad. 9) Wow. So that’s what Morena Baccarin is supposed to look like in the future (She’s Leslie Thompkins in Gotham). But, yeah... sad for Stephanie... 8) Boo! 7) Read that, too. I was just in shock. Never thought that’d happen, but it did. Then it unhappened. 6) Way too far. 5) My favorite part of Identity Crisis was Deathstroke’s fight with the JL. 4) I still can’t believe that happened. 3) I remember when I first read that. I didn’t know what to think about that. 2) Honestly, I never imagined her as a character to be killed. 1) I still think that was great. It’s legendary or history, depending on who you ask.

[@Draylin41]

Ultimate Spiderman was pretty damn great. I loved how they took everything from the very beginning of his original series and kind of turned it on it's head in a way that made it new but not completely absurd. Most of the rest of the Ultimate universe, however, didn't seem to get the memo.

[@nightsbeatswitch9950]

Wally West is the definitive Flash, even so much that they made Barry a whole lot more like Wally. Can’t believe they keep shitting on him, they should’ve brought him and his family back like they did with Superman and he should’ve got his own book or just have the flash main book

[@dn2ze]

TQMf Wally will always be Kid Flash. I do hate that comics nowadays switch race I like red headed Wally then the Black Wally West, why can’t they do things like what they did with miles...

[@Trocify225]

dante bigguy race matters that much in a fictional character are you serious

[@DaywalkerNL94]

Your "definitive flash" only got popular because Barry died like a total champ.

[@ChadBenjamin]

@@DaywalkerNL94 Wally is the reason why Flash is popular today. The most iconic Flash stories were written in Wally West's series which started in 1987 and ended in 2009. The most popular portrayal of Flash was Wally West in Justice League Unlimited.

[@DaywalkerNL94]

And he got the shot for that popularity only thanks to Barry. No amount of your token normie facts from Wikipedia will change that.

[@ilovecody7514]

The Superior Spiderman was one of my favorite spiderman arcs of all time. And imo one of the better ones that reinvigorated my love for Spiderman again.

[@hopeatkinson4790]

I remember my then boyfriend hyping Identity Crises up SO much, to lure me away from X-Men. I was so pissed off about Sue Dibny and he just didn't understand why.

[@dragdragon23]

Kraven the hunter in a way killed Spiderman, That was a well written and drawn story.

[@squeekysquid7912]

I actually lived doc ock as Spiderman. Superior Spiderman was the series that got me into comics, and it will always be my favorite, and he will always be my favorite Spiderman.

[@nidalderoo3448]

Stark didn’t forget anything, but he also wouldn’t let Captain Mediocre just screw up without a fight

[@centuronstar8688]

Wally West death currently in DC Comics is literally the worst.

[@JustAChinesePleb]

He didn't die tho. And if, still a better death than Jason Todd's.

[@centuronstar8688]

@@JustAChinesePleb What do you mean? He's currently dead in Heroes in Crisis. And his name is being dragged through the mud.

[@louisjwiese5515]

Seems comics, and Disney, have issues with gingers for some reason.

[@KonradCurves]

Spider-Mans death isn't really hated. It just dark. That goes for a lot of this list. Dark doesn't = bad

[@shaundean3335]

I guess I'm the only one who liked Secret Empire. I really enjoyed how it tied threads together from previous series' and if nothing else the new Cap series to spawn out of it is nothing but gold.

[@FangsFirst]

There's a couple of us floating around just in these comments...

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

No death matters, anyway. *Wally West dies* DISHONOR! Dishonor on your whole company! Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!

[@kevk9306]

Why are you everywhere?

[@StarkRavingHazlenuts]

@@kevk9306 He can't be reasoned with, He can't be bargained with, And he doesn't feel fear, Pity, Or remorse. Not untill Wally West stays alive.

[@zachryder3150]

I swear this is the fifth video you've made on this topic *DON'T STOP!*

[@Galvamel]

Spider-Man: It was actually even darker, Doc Ock was not riddled with disease. He was dying because of the repeated body, and brain injuries he suffered at the hands of Spider-Man over the past twenty years. Since he is just an ordinary human and does not have super healing he couldn't take the constant head trauma.

[@Onimusashi85]

They didn't just kill off Wally, they destroyed his character by having be responsible for killing so many heroes. If I was a Wally fan I'd be pissed! I get the feeling it was done by some writer/editor that wanted the Flash they grew up with back...

[@xgray2012]

What about Nightwing's death in Injustice comics? Or Ted Kord's death in the Injustice 2 comics? Or the multiple deaths of DC's "Countdown to Final Crisis"? Or Firestorm's death in "Identity Crisis"?

[@gemminycricket7597]

I didn't find anything wrong about Nightwing's death in Injustice. For one thing, it's a standalone story with no impact on other series so it gives character deaths some finality and meaning. And the way it was done was displayed well as a devastating loss for Batman (even using a panel with him cradling Nightwing's body similar to Jason Todd's death which was a nice touch) basically losing a son all over again, worse at the hands of his own biological son- even just accidentally. It was a crucial moment highlighting that, at that stage at least, despite their differences and agendas, they knew and respected each other and understood the severity of the loss. Despite their feud, Superman turned to Catwoman knowing Batman needed emotional support. Which, if anything, makes the following events all the more devastating. I don't know. That's just my opinion on it :)

[@lolosmith8340]

I'm okay with Nightwing's death in Injustice. The setting of Injustice, a dictator Superman, immediately let's the readers know that this Elseworld is dark and twisted. And that our normal expectations should be abandoned. Injustice is a stand alone comic and should not be judged under the same light as mainverse comics.

[@twistednightmare1363]

Nightwing's death was one of the worst, not because he died but how he died, comics have a setting were theres a constant suspension of disbelief that people survive brutal violence without dying, but then Nightwing suddenly dies accidnetly by landing on a conveninatly placed rock. If that kind of acidental death can happen then how has batman not acidently killed people before with the stunts he's pulled?

[@lolosmith8340]

I definitely agree with you on the way he died. It was poorly thought-out. And Nightwing's death was mostly used as a way to escalate the rift between Damian and Bruce. And draw a bigger line between Batman's side and Superman's side. Also, I think Damian knows better, especially not during the middle of a riot, to mix practice time/habits with work. Even if he was frustrated and annoyed with Dick's lecturing. Yet, Nightwing still should have died in Injustice. P.S. technically Injustice is a video-game comic tie-in. But, most fans see it as a Elseworld because it should be an Elseworld.

[@FangsFirst]

Firestorm in IC. Ted's original death, too, given that it made no sense whatsoever with Max's previously established character (up to and including INTERNAL MONOLOGUE.)

[@srstriker6420]

They shouldn't have killed Wally west because he is the fastest man alive and Hunter Zolomon is still out there.

[@Mbq-sh6bj]

5:52 I assume you meant David Finch, not David Fincher. You had me going for a moment there!

[@cheshirekat8273]

"The //sigh// New 52..." 😂 I died!!!

[@DeathGodRiku]

Sadly, I've become well aware of many of these deaths despite not reading comics

[@katnerd6712]

Let's be honest, Wally West is THE most popular Flash among comic book fans. His sales were actually higher than any of Barry's. The only reason they killed Wally is because Dan DiDidio at DC puts his personal tastes ahead of obvious fan interest. He hates sidekicks.

[@kirak1561]

katnerd Can’t blame Didio for that. I hate the sidekicks too.

[@keniel-prime6214]

The only reason Barry is popular now is because of the film and the TV show.

[@katnerd6712]

@@kirak1561 Also the most successful DC Comics series of the last 50 years was the 1980's New Teen Titans. They even briefly outsold the juggernaut that was the X-Men, THE most successful comic book series of all time.

[@arcanefury3666]

I'm still kind of mad about the Hulk dying. He died, then when I got over it he was ressurected only to be killed again. Now he's back and is an actual horror movie monster. I'm kind of cool where he's at now

[@Klaus99999]

I always thought the Question’s death was really dumb. He didn’t even go out in the way a hero should; he died of lung cancer. I facepalmed so hard when I read that.

[@derangel9143]

I loved how they handled his death. It made it an emotional and tragic story. Dying while fighting is such a cliche thing and anytime it happens you instantly go "yeah, they'll be back in a couple months" but the way Question's death was handled in 52 made it feel more "real" and like something that would stick. I wish they would have kept Montoya as Question when they rebooted the universe.

[@HiddenInTheTruth]

@@derangel9143 I'm a huge Question fan (particularly Vic) but i agree with you that the death was well executed, painful and felt like it had weight. Not a big bang or horrific violence. Just a slow, painful end for a true street level hero.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

I just miss Question, I always thought he should've gone out investigating the mother of all conspiracies, putting them together, then the last few panels show someone entering his office, a gun extending toward him, bang, and scene, it could've set up a major investigation, and a big shock reveal when they finally found out who did it, (my vote arsenal getting mindfucked by gorilla grodd)

[@HiddenInTheTruth]

@@ComicBookGuy420 Well, he did die in the middle of a major investigation involving "The Cult of Crime" which does have long lasting conspiracy elements. And honestly him just getting shot and killed seems weaker to me, as he deals with thugs with guns regularly. Cancer isn't an opponent he could "fight" in the traditional sense, so him losing doesn't undermine his skill, rather it illustrated his mortality. Unlike Batman, Question isn't written to fight gods. He actually seems like a normal person using wits and skill to find the truth. Personal opinion though. Mine is no more valid than yours in the end.

[@WhaleManMan]

Y’all edit those in-between titles in Windows Movie Maker?

[@paulpizzlewizzle]

Hated when they killed off Ted Kord!

[@StarkRavingHazlenuts]

Me too! Thank God though he got better in Blue Beetle Rebirth. I rejoiced as well when Ted rescued Booster in his old uniform in Heroes In Crisis.

[@tranz2deep]

The "Death" Of Superman came off as being every bit as contrived and forced as the ending of Fallout 3. It was so bad that one respected fanfiction hosted for the longest time on a now-deleted fansite's DC section got the Golden Age Sandman and a couple of his associates to (disgustedly) analyze the whole emo PoS, from the artwork to the plot, concluding with Wesley and Sandy resignedly chanting as one how this wasn't even close to Jack Kirby, how they -knew- Jack Kirby and how, "You, dear sirs, are no Jack Kirby!"

[@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix]

N.E.R.D: No one Ever Really Dies

[@Corrupted_Save_File]

no mention of poor Glenn form The Walking Dead comics?

[@jaykay6222]

Wally West can't catch a break because he ISN'T RUNNING FAST ENOUGH!

[@MetaMetalks]

I think one of the best deaths and returns was Nightcrawler's. He had not died before and the whole journey for him to return was such a big deal because of his faith. I thought it was interesting that it has had ripple effects on him since like losing Amanda or the fact that he simply can't die now.

[@_GuiltyGhost]

Honestly, Superior Spiderman is probably one of my favorite arcs in 616.

[@jaredgarcia8638]

I blame DiDio for the DC deaths

[@DaywalkerNL94]

Uh... derp... Didio... Bad. Seriously this whole thing when everything bad is somehow Didio but everything good is Geoff Johns is so silly...

[@SuperSanity1]

@@DaywalkerNL94 Well, Didio is the one calling the shots right now. He's behind the deaths of Conner Kent, Bart Allen, Wally West, and Roy Harper. He almost killed Nightwing in Infinite Crisis. Didio is hated for a reason. That reason being he has no idea what the fans want or what sells. He only cares about what he wants.

[@MellowGenius]

.....Di..dio..HES DIO!! JOJO REFERENCE!!

[@user-lu5zy2ik2z]

Original universe and own original characters - Archie's Sonic the Hedgehog.

[@Shaff2323]

I remember ultimatum making me really uncomfortable in general. But the wasp’s death didn’t bother me as much as dormammu squeezing Dr Strange so tight until pop goes the weasel. And then there was that flood just full of dead bodies... damn wtf were they doing

[@opopp6240]

I Don't agree with you that Civil War was bad

[@1701Emperor]

This list was just a long list of pathetic whining about how Ewan didn't like certain events of the comic books...

[@rodney2x48]

I can get why some people are angry about Poison Ivy's death but... Like, she's one of the easiest characters to bring back. The Green makes her a secondary avatar, Harley does some crazy scheme that brings Ivy back, she's in some kind of plant based healing coma, etc. Most of the characters that died and will stay dead will most likely be all the D-list characters. Roy, Wally and Ivy will eventually return somehow because they're too popular.

[@PainfullyCasual]

Love the sigh before the New 52 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@p-aboily5981]

Should've called spoiler alert, Heroes in Crisis is still pretty fresh

[@rcct44444]

No one cares about HIC

[@yoshinamikaze0077]

Who cares Heroes In Crisis is a terrible Comic

[@tiltedmalzahar7006]

It's freaking deaths....there's no need for a spoiler warning if it legit says DEATHS, don't wanna see em? Don't look at the video talking about deaths

[@p-aboily5981]

Chris k. Ortega there's clearly a difference between comic culture and spoiling a still running serie

[@gerardootero1149]

Can we get a reference to Alexandra DeWitt, the original “woman in the fridge” who was stuffed in by Major Force in 1994’s Green Lantern #54?

[@drjubi276]

She wasn't stuffed, she was folded...

[@shayliakara]

"CRISIS #7 - Death of Supergirl" How could you forget that one? That marked the end of an era for comics. Her passing, made Superman the only Kryptonian left, and led to "Man of Steel", where they depowered Kryptonian power and made him weaker. Her death was the "Death of Innocence" in comics. Fans know it was because the editors wanted Superman to be the "Last" and the way she died was just cheap. The fact she died only wanting Kal to be okay, soured it more. How could you miss that one?

[@partlink1]

"He first bit the bullet in ultimate spiderman... It was brilliant" Literally got it canned. Only One More Day would top that horrid idea.

[@schoolprojects1835]

The woman in the refrigerator thing is such trash it makes no sense

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

Support the death of humanity Do the right thing

[@EatWave]

The gender non-specific form of the concept is one of the defining events of Spider-Man's origin story as well as any number of other classic heroes such as Batman. Gendering it was indeed trash.

[@warailawildrunner5300]

It refers to characters, mostly female, who were created just to be a foil to drive the hero's story when they are killed. See Kyle aka green lantern's girlfriend, who was murdered and stuffed into a fridge. The spiderman example is partially this, but there was a specific purpose for his uncle's death - it was the consequence of peter's choice to not stop the thug. The murdered female in fridge trope is usually offscreen and is instead just used as a plot point without it having much in the way of adding to the story.

[@EatWave]

@@warailawildrunner5300 Motivational character deaths are not a gendered trope. You'll find male characters who exist to die at some critical plot juncture which will redefine the main character in some way including Steve Trevor in Wonder Woman.

[@notmyproblem9345]

@@EatWave oh god don't try to have a rational conversation with a feminist who is clearly reciting the Twitter Script, they'll label you a Nazi because you're "Mansplaining" and showing your "Toxic Masculinity" because of the "Patriarchy" and "Male Privilege"...Doesn't matter that you're right and they are clearly wrong and just force fed children of the cult. Don't engage them or they will accuse you or rape or sexual misdoing...well as soon as other people do

[@bengates9722]

Peters death wasn’t dark. Tf are you on about? And I’ll just sit in the corner and mourn War Machine and Professor x on my own

[@ComicBookGuy420]

The sinister six kicked the shit outta him, then Karven shot him repeatedly, I mean its not joker playing with a crowbar of Jason Todd's head, but it ain't exactly sweetness and light, and yeah I miss Xavier too

[@Draylin41]

The Death of Superman in and of itself was actually fine in my eyes. What was really botched was how he returned and the weird filler arc of multiple supermen popping out of nowhere in his absence.

[@ReallyCoolSite]

"Civil War 2: War Harder" -- I'm stealing this.

[@dylantuf6228]

I feel like WhatCulture ia always re-treading old video ideas. Its like the same recycled content.

[@geronuis2295]

it really is.

[@everythingisawesome2903]

What Culture ran out of ideas ages ago.

[@RageUnchained]

Hey just like pop culture!

[@TevyaSmolka]

i hate wally west death so much its so stupid

[@hma7705]

I wish they included other comic book franchises like the boys, invincible or the walking dead

[@Codemarla]

The lack of real consequences, constant reboots and poor continuity are the reasons I gave up with super hero comics a long time ago.

[@EMSforreal]

Did they hire you to be the negative guy lol every video you are in your complaining about something

[@mikelboyd711]

AGREE

[@StormX6]

Nightwing’s death in Injustice comic?

[@alisterfolson]

How about all the heroes in Old Man Logan? But that was a great story

[@BritishCookie]

1 minute to get to the fucking point. Just brilliant whatcultre you’ve changed

[@elsavargas421]

Barry Allen is the cw flash what are you talking about

[@Scripzure]

yeah i was gonna say. wally west is in it but its not his show

[@FangsFirst]

Yeah...but his personality is closer to Wally than Barry, despite the name.

[@Nightmare-kn6ee]

1. Jason Todd Just kidding everyone wanted that Robin to die

[@cathedral1375]

Honestly for roy i say i like him better with such a tragedy, while ik main character deaths might not stick i like when certain things that genuinely scar or leave a huge impression on a hero stick with them and speedy losing his arm/ family made him pop out more to me that along with him bouncing back from drugs.

[@mercutioescalus6782]

10. Wally West 9. Flash’s white nephew 8. Fastest man alive 7. Wall Man 6. Dicks best friend 5. Ricks best friend 4. Harley Quinn’s victim 3. Linda’s boyfriend 2. Barry’s protege 1. Wally Fucking West

[@mattcalloway6254]

Marvel needs to take a page out of DC’s book and do a Reboot to sort out their continuity. Captain America and the Punisher will never be the same after Secret Empire and the fact that everything that happened in like the 1900s is in continuity even though the characters don’t age is annoying

[@adam1984pl]

Where`s Captain America death,they even talked about this in radio.

[@scarletnight4554]

I knew ultimatum was going to be on this list, but I expected that every death would be on the list as one

[@scotcarr3390]

Oh, boy, this is a tough call. Comic-book death is it's own thing because publishers overuse it. Death has become a joke because we don't buy a character's ultimate sacrifice. We know, especially, when a "franchise character" dies, they're gonna be back sooner rather than later.

[@Stopp200]

First civil war was great

[@nidalderoo3448]

Second wasn’t tho😂