10 Best Times Superheroes Became Villains

[@robgraham5697]

Every time I see any thing to do with Injustice I think, "The Joker won."

[@stoned_punx4244]

Just one bad day

[@turtlesfan44]

@@stoned_punx4244 with a huge impact

[@theshaydedlotus3128]

Well in all honesty the Joker wins no matter what. Either he dies and corrupts a hero, or he lives and can keep killing.

[@kjl3080]

@@theshaydedlotus3128 not if he dies of old age

[@iraqoid]

more like batman’s moral code lost

[@segatasanshiro21]

To have a successful Dark Phoenix movie, there needs to be a successful Phoenix movie.

[@achimsinn7782]

To have a good dark phoenix they first need to establish Jean Grey as a character, not just Wolverines and cyclops' love interest.

[@kjeezy2990]

@@achimsinn7782 I liked the third x men.. but I was a kid lol

[@TheAvenidas]

I don't think that the winter soldier story line was more popular than Jason's. The fans wanted him to die at some point, now he is a fan favorite

[@aelingalathynius3117]

Sebastian Stan bro

[@uliloolilu780]

Same bro

[@bloodyneptune]

Until Jason's played by a buff Sebastian Stan, Winter Soldier wins.

[@Lowkeylie]

Easily one of my favorite moments from an Elseworld’s story because of how easily you could see the character go down this path. “Who elected you anyway?” “Who elected _you_ ? The problem with democracy is that it doesn’t keep you very safe.” “It has other benefits, but you seem to have forgotten that.” “I didn’t forget. I chose peace and security.” “You _grabbed_ power!” “And with that power, we made a world where *no eight year old boy will ever lose his parents* ... _because of some punk with a gun_ .” “... You win.” (The fact that I typed that from memory speaks volumes about how much I love that episode)

[@messiforever123]

What comic is this from

[@Lowkeylie]

Rick Sinclair No comic. It’s from the Justice League cartoon episode “A Better World”

[@travisbishop782]

Damn! You have a great memory!

[@codybaggett5329]

My favorite but of dialog from that episode besides maybe superman and Lex's speech.

[@thedorkknight9684]

How the scene played out was absolutely brilliant. For the most part, we didn't see either speak, it cut between them hearing the Other's words. Because of this, it could easily be interpreted as an internal struggle. Truly one of Kevin Conroy's greatest Batman performances.

[@2rare2die100]

Does Terra count? She was only ever pretending to be a hero.

[@CapHowdy]

And to be fair, Ozymandias was the villain all the way through Watchmen, and we never really got to see him as a hero either other than a few flashbacks etc

[@uliloolilu780]

She not the best though she pretty medicore

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

No since she was a villan to begin with

[@leeroyjenkins4456]

@@cristalmewtwo4160in the teen titans series tho she was a hero until she got manipulated by slade

[@cristalmewtwo4160]

@@leeroyjenkins4456 she's a bit of a hard shape to place

[@dalime605]

Batman likes his steak well done?! I knew he wasn't perfect...

[@DYNNTHEGOAT]

What's wrong with well done steak?

[@nikolaosnikosjordan]

@@DYNNTHEGOAT mm…its just so…tasteless compared to medium rare

[@DYNNTHEGOAT]

@@nikolaosnikosjordan I rather eat well done steak than medium rare

[@nikolaosnikosjordan]

@@DYNNTHEGOAT Well everyone has their own preferences.

[@Shadomancer]

Batman likes his steak well done. I feel betrayed.. Also, Onslaught.

[@cruz_vnidal6615]

@The Credible Hulk amen my dearest second strongest avenger

[@r8tedh8ted39]

I feel safe here.

[@devinthadude88able]

The Credible Hulk I feel like Bat would be a barbarian

[@alexas5260]

Well done steak tastes better, I don't see a problem here.

[@xerothedarkstar]

@@alexas5260 your opinion proves that your opinion should not be listened to.

[@grungeman59]

Thought the Batman who laughs would be on the list

[@Never_heart]

Same. Or really any of the Dark Nights Metal evil Bruces. Hell considering their reason for putting Hal Jordan I think everything they expressed is better represented in the Dawnbreaker. Bruce's will to get revenge on his parent's killer, it was so strong he overloaded the Ring's no killing limiter. He corrupted the Ring then became a murderous avenger and took out the Greenlantern Corps sent to stop him from his killings.

[@og403]

Same thats the only reason i clicked on this vid tbh

[@RuriRurouni]

Honestly, most of the Dark Knights Metal evil Batmen are far more monstrous than the majority of this list. For The Batman Who Laughs to NOT BE NUMBER 1 let alone not on the list at all is an atrocity.

[@Tyler-ux2tm]

grungeman59 he’s not???! I just started the vid and I assumed he’d be number 1...

[@RuriRurouni]

@@Tyler-ux2tm So did I. He's far worse than the actual number 1 too. It's embarassing.

[@ryanschramm5804]

Due to Ewan's long documented anti-Hal Jordan bias, I'd like to believe that the rest of the crew at WC had to tie him down in a chair and force him to be on this list Also his run as Parallax didn't end at Zero Hour, it ended at Final Night. Between the two was a nice bit where he was able to beat Flash, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Kyle Rayner, Hawkman, and Mullet-Toting Superman AT THE SAME TIME why doesn't this get talked about more

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

The '90s was an interesting decade for comicdom. We had dozens of Elseworlds and What If?, the rise of anti-heroes, heroes gone bad, villains turned heroes,death then rise of heroes and villains...fun stuffs!

[@muricaneagle666]

The 2010s are also good for comicdom as well, I mean we have the MCU... yeah.

[@phantomsoldier87]

Injustice Superman by far one of my favorite villains. And it's not like he even did it for personal gain. He was just trying to make the world a better place, but to the extreme. By far the best version of an unhinged Superman

[@etoregames1696]

You ether die a hero or live long enough to become a villain

[@TheRezro]

Yes, but it is also one of most misquoted concept in fiction. Hero would always be a villain for someone else. It doesn't mean that change in psychotic nutjob is unavoidable, like people like Snyder think.

[@etoregames1696]

TheRezro well said

[@ichheieelsenorandorayashi4824]

*0:39** Niggas*

[@sheikhrajelali4835]

It should be you either die a hero or a villion or live long enough to become an anti-hero.

[@ichheieelsenorandorayashi4824]

@@sheikhrajelali4835 *Or become the antivillain*

[@honeymustardcheerios1808]

I think Hal Jordan’s actions were kinda justified. The man watched everything he loved get destroyed and the guardians of the universe took the one thing that could’ve helped him cope. If you ask me, the lanterns kinda deserve it.

[@P4rz1va1]

His motivations are kinda similar to injustice. But either way, he still became a villain

[@KenBeeKJV]

Not to mention Parallax also gave his life to reignite the sun and saved everyone when the whole DCU worth of heroes were all but useless.

[@andrewroberts6505]

The guardians were always morally grey at the best of times up to the point they themselves turned to the dark side.

[@crispyjack428]

@@KenBeeKJV You know your universe is fucked when parallax is the good guy lol

[@jakubgruda354]

I have an analogy for you. In real world you can use drugs to cope with difficult life situations, but are the cops or your family the bad guys for trying to prevent you from settling in your own drug-fueled world and destroy yourself in the process? Or maybe we should do what's in our power to keep going forward?

[@ranmouri5648]

Superboy Prime Superman Injustice Batman Who Laugh Everyone in Blackest Night Aqua man & Wonder Woman Flashpoint

[@blueburro9226]

I found Wonder Woman particularly villainous when she presented Aquaman's wife's head!

[@blueburro9226]

Actually I found that the more you know the characters, the more shocking Flashpoint is. I was like, "no f-bomb way!"

[@ranmouri5648]

@@blueburro9226 FLASHPOINT is my 1st favourite movie and comic and holy moly in the newest Justice League Dark animated movie Flash attempt another FLASHPOINT

[@ranmouri5648]

@@blueburro9226 wonder woman is always bad news take a look at injustice and Red Son, she had nothing to do with Superman dirty works and yet encourage him to become evil, she did opposite to her people traits and beliefs bcuz she should guide Superman to truth not encourage him to felony

[@arcticcatchaos]

Just gotta say I remember seeing that episode of justice league, and understanding what prefrontal lobotomy was at the time I found the Arkham asylum to be terrifyingly creepy

[@jackfables3470]

Shazam/Captain Marvel was never a villain, in Kingdome Come : he was brainwashed or mind controlled by Lex Luthor. Also, the crux of that story is that there are far too many metahumans and the world will end, if they continue fighting each other, since they are too powerful. Even though it has a sort of 'happy end', it was made clear that a culling of metahumans seemed to be the only option to almost every faction (Luthor and the US military wanted to kill metahumans, while Batman wanted to fight them without killing them - even though he is the one who stated that not enough metahumans died and they just returned to square one). However, if you are looking for a bad guy, Superman created and ruled over a gulag - not just for supervillains, but for all those who opposed him.

[@TheVonzilla]

Yeah Batson sacrificed himself to “save the world” but the explosion still killed almost every hero in that battle. He could’ve carried the bomb/missile up out of the atmosphere, but sure.. he blows it up before it hit the ground and he’s a redeemed hero.

[@fawfulmark2]

It's said in thr Story that the United Nations made the weapon to resist several metahuman abilities so there is a chance that it was preventing him from doing so, going by how it erected a barrier around itself when Billy touched it.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

Red Hood and Cap going to Hydra, my personal favourites

[@scottrubenstein3250]

Look closely. The priest at the funeral is giving the middle finger to Tara

[@chadflanaganCFC]

I'd of put The Batman who laughs on this list while he's unquestionably a villain his one shot shows he was genuinely heroic before his jokerization to go onto become a multiverisal threat is undeniable how well he did

[@Asrugan]

Actually, Injustice Supes WAS based on a comic book. Most of the story line for the video game was lifted from a previous comic book story line called Armageddon 2001, where in a newly introduced superhero name "Waverider" tries to find the identity of a super villain who kills all other heroes in the future, and so travels timelines looking for alternate futures to see which hero could become so bad as to snap. It's not just one story line that pulls this together either, it comes from a few different ones, but for some familiar points start here, where a nuke kills Lois and Metropolis. dc.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_Annual_Vol_2_3

[@IanOPadrick]

I love Young Justice's twist on the Judas Contract, and I'm looking forward to her character next season

[@jediprotector216]

Just pointing something out, the Hal Jordan of Emerald Night remained a villain even past the New 52 Retcon. In Issue 50 of Green Lantern, he shows up to battle Hal Jordan of the New 52 and is confused to see Coast City restored without the use of the Green Lantern ring. It's a good read and something to definitely check out.

[@TWIZ31]

Charles Xavier as Onslaught

[@captainawesome0711]

You guys should throw in recommended reading for the different list entries! That way we can go out and actually read some different books

[@amirnasrul8109]

All you had to do was ask, someone will come along and answer them

[@captainawesome0711]

@@amirnasrul8109 it would be a way to get people into comics more. Like giving recommended reading to the viewers would only benefit WhatCulture. Itd increase viewer engagement on the comics channel and only benefit everyone involved

[@xerothedarkstar]

Irredeemable and Incorruptible by Boom Studios is a neat flip on the hero/villain relationship. Also Invincible by Image is probably the best super hero comic I've ever read.

[@anthonygeehan5557]

Hal Jordon is a gutsy pick. I appreciate it

[@elsavargas421]

Lord drakkon boom studios power rangers comics

[@aftershock7064]

Anyone one else see how dope the heroes costumes become when they turn?

[@dylanogg347]

Emerald Twilight is yet another example of why the Guardians of The Universe are the biggest idiots in the DC Universe. They quickly put the kibosh on Hal's attempt to adjust to tragedy. Yet they were A-OK with Sinestro ruling his planet as a dictator for years. Great job as always guys.

[@Slycology]

I haven't watched this yet but if Grant Morrison's Niles Caulder isn't in it then I'm crying foul

[@k1ngb3azt17]

what if the winter solider is the jason todd of marvel

[@thewildtigre3339]

You should read the dark multiverse storyline's.

[@fuknames7929]

YOU GUYS MISSED JASON TOOD!!😭😭

[@yousofzaid872]

I think they unintentionally put him with the winter soldier because they mentioned both of them as sidekicks who died and came back as villains to haunt their former crime fighting partners

[@UnfamiliarIntimacy]

sean shin Jason isn't a villain, he's a anti hero. He still fights the good fight, he just has the balls to do what most superheroes don't and put the scum down for good.

[@nathanielhallmanjr5809]

Don't think it counts... they specifically mentioned heroes to villains not heroes to anti-heroes/villans.

[@codybaggett5329]

Tbf, injustice and justice lords weren't stories about villains per-se but heroes who realized their previous methods of crime fighting were outdated after the death of an important character(s) and both near utopias were pretty much ruined by their respective batmen.

[@jvbutalid8316]

Even dying is a bad thing for the flash to do. He fkd up the timeline such that the justice lords existed thanks to it, and what's worse is he wasnt even barry allen

[@chibodee1187]

Missing from this list: Robot - Invincible

[@gageansman295]

Invincible is awesome. This deserves more likes

[@SaintJimmy379]

Not gonna lie, the various occasions where Lex Luther (I'm spelling with auto-correct since tired) and Superman worked together are some of the best moments story wise.

[@cloudysky7430]

At 0:16 that’s actually Nightwing wearing a joker disguise, he got sent into Arkham by Batman to do some undercover work looking into a mole at the Asylum.

[@rachy.jaychy]

what comic is that from???

[@unclefranklin4575]

Jean was also a major threat in x men red, and she wasn't even controlled by the Phoenix force then

[@marcinswiatko4205]

Trump also likes it well done. And both heroes are awesome

[@jeremybird3467]

Ya know even if BOTH filmmakers really didnt understand the Phoenix/dark phoenix saga...all they had to do was watch like...7 or 8 episodes of the old 90s xmen cartoon cause that was like sooo much closer to the story than either dark phoenix film...biggest problem w/ the last stand and dark phoenix...they skipped the phoenix saga completely!!! Cant believe such a classic saga can be screwed so bad....2 times over like a...a damn near 15 year gap....wow

[@Chance57]

Kid's will never understand Hal being your favorite hero in the lead up to Zero Hour.

[@Mr.Awesome]

I want a evil batman vs a good superman storyline

[@fourscarlet7581]

Joker cannot live nor can he die. There will always be chaos either way.

[@turdferguson8261]

I actually have that green lantern comic book : emerald twilight! I've had it for 20 years!

[@dragonballgtzdb4937]

I think the Justice Lords is the best examples of what Superman and Batman and the Justice league turning evil I mean just think of how bad that was Superman would never kill but yet this Superman made a lot of hard choices and he was still willing to kill flash even despoting of what happened

[@jacoblofthus7908]

Judas Contract was partly adapted in Teen Titans (2003-2006).

[@BLasherman]

Kinda, except Terra in the comics was sleeping with Slade. And yes she was 15. creepy

[@ndndave9241]

The retconning of Hal Jordan turning evil was kinda unnecessary. Kinda like how they did Professor X when Onslaught emerged. They coulda, they should have just maintained the story line of a good man finally breaking after losing too much then being betrayed by his people after being broken down. But they go and ruin it with his being "influenced" by the Parallax fear entity.

[@vista1456786]

I am not the biggest comic book fan but it is cool that the uploader did acknowledge Injustice and The High Counciller

[@Schulte32]

You got the Jean Grey part wrong. The Phoenix made a copy of Jean Grey's image while the real Jean Grey was in a capsule and later rehabilitated back into the team.

[@johnphamlore8073]

Marvel Comics entire arc about the Sentry. King Thor kills the Avengers. The future Hulk is the Maestro.

[@TeryJones]

6:05 - And this is why I watch this show.....though I'm not to fond of steak in general XDXDXDXD

[@stevengabbard930]

I stopped reading comic books 15 years ago for many reasons. But, one of my main reasons was that they brought Hal Jordan back as Green Lantern. Emerald Twilight was one of my favorite comic book stories. I loved the tragedy of it. I also got disgusted in them bringing back Jason Todd although I admit the Red Hood story was good. I like my comic books to have some grounding in reality and dead is dead. I couldn't buy into the mythos anymore. Comic book writers and fans can't seem to deal with death or the passage of time.

[@jud3toxic777]

Bruh, the man with an all powerful alien ring that can make anything he imagines is taken down by a guy with a bow and arrow 💀👀

[@PASTELXENON]

Superboy Prime or any other either evil Superman>>> Injustice

[@cooldemon5545]

This is why Batman has his contingency plans.

[@NetMoverSitan]

If the heroes used the methods of their enemies, they'd be better villains than they ever could be.

[@sonicmario64]

Was anyone else expecting either Superman or Dark Phoenix to be featured on the top spot?

[@dalestokes2831]

Ozymandias meaning is "Ruler of nothing" The more you know

[@samuraicritic4864]

Hmm, no mention of Hank Pym changing from the Heroic (but unstable) Ant-Man, and becoming the villain (and later 'troubled' hero) named Yellowjacket. Also, in a slightly sad ( in terms of writing and plot), the DC hero Hawk, becomes the villain Monarch, for a pretty big (but forgettable) story arc.

[@pduck2386]

Injustice made no sense Shazam is stronger than Superman, maybe not in brute strength but he’s all of the Greek gods he insanely strong in the comic and Superman’s weakness is magic

[@EdgyVidyaGeneral]

Rorschach was the hero. An uncompromising commitment to truth is heroic.

[@MrRonald327]

Villains drive the story.

[@christophersandidge8257]

"Batman likes his steak well done. Yech." Seems trivial. But I'm commenting, so.... It was a kind of funny moment, though. Medium well is the best. Cooked enough, but still juicy. Great video. Thanks.

[@britishhoormalez]

In my opinion injustice should be number one on this list cause the storyline is so good'

[@nikifrank9398]

Me waiting the whole time for The Batman who laughs

[@jaybrooks3374]

Nice list but no batman who laughs gets a thumbs down.

[@kcollier2192]

Terra was NOT manipulated by Deathstroke- she was a willing participant to the plan.

[@myshdeboy8379]

ok but in injustice: can't super man just go back in time?

[@CBSNOX17]

Number 7 not 6 but good video

[@kevinmurry8803]

Add Hawk to the list from the Armageddon 2001 storyline.

[@yaboiplank6764]

Off the top of my head The Batman who laughs Yellow lantern superman Injustice superman

[@musicisbae9480]

Batman who laughs?

[@ironikz4006]

Wow I completely forgot Shazam was killed by Superman in Injustice 1. I was wondering what happened to him

[@robsenzig5720]

Jericho from the New Teen Titans after falling in love with Raven

[@lochlanmckee7991]

Okay just like everyone else where was the Batman who laughs, and cyclops and the X-men wielding the dark Phoenix was pretty awesome as well

[@diontacoreymcdade2073]

I Love it humanity ain't worth saving.

[@powerrangerkid16]

Was wolf spider ever a hero in his universe? I was just curious

[@Esperkin272]

Um....Dark Phoenix wasn't Jean Grey. Jean was in the bottom of Jamaica Bay. The Phoenix Force was impersonating Jean.

[@denniscleary7580]

I would have to go with the time Hal Jordan first became Parallax

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

No Superman Red Son? One of the best Elseworlds novels ever?

[@curtiswilliams7122]

It's fascinating that the top three belong to DC. I know Watchmen wasn't a part of DC originally but it is now. So I'm counting it.

[@TevyaSmolka]

As for the maker aka ultimate reed Richards yeah he’s officially insane and somehow keeps showing up everywhere for some bizarre reason and won’t just die.

[@coatguy2990]

Number 3 was a pretty big betrayal yeah.... Oh, you know what was an even worse betrayal? The fact we never got a season 6 of the teen titans cartoon.

[@jacksink7259]

7:00 does anyone else hear the dreaded heirs there?

[@Metrion77]

I'm sorry. I'm 20 seconds in and I hear "Heroes becoming villains is a fun and rare experience in comic books." Is it though?

[@DD-ge4xj]

Without plutonian from Irredeemable?

[@luvmenow33]

I dont remember them ever explaining how the Flash died in the cartoon.

[@504gucci4]

True, I assume with a shotgun, because it came up in lil flashbacks

[@MrBeebo23]

Hold on... didn't apocalypse pull Angel's wings off???

[@TheYoungDoctor]

Dark Phoenix wasn't really Jean though. It only took on her form putting Jean into a cocoon at the bottom of Jamaica Bay.

[@thunder8987]

Out of these injustice superman is the most interesting but justice lords are a close second

[@thedootlord]

9:57 did he just say minute men.....oh no OH NO HES COMING help

[@crimsonblack9774]

I like 6 I mean the costumes just I know there bad but fashion well done

[@MrLordbubasith]

7:46 ... and ft Sylvester Stallone as Bucky !!!

[@winggyz2180]

Ya no superhero’s becoming villains is a bit common now, makes for great stories and comics though

[@petergant8767]

I don't think Superman could've killed Shazam that easily, with his heat vision, Shazam's powers are magical in origin, and, since their BOTH equals in strength, I doubt Superman could have held him so easily! Can you say, "plot device circumnavigating already established abilities?!". Aw, I knew you could! Also, Shazam should be, at least, as invulnerable as Archille's, too, only all over!

[@artroom151]

I swear I've seen this Watchman moment in MULTIPLE video's over the past month.

[@Colechamdiceman]

The Justice Lords were more right than wrong... Superman! We need you to come laser eye Trum... er... Lex! Quick!

[@thehostcastoff]

> Villains > Ozymandias Pick one

[@natknutson1482]

Surprised you didn't bring up terra from the 2000s run of teen titans on cn