10 Reasons WWE's Best Era Is Secretly Its WORST Era

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@jp3813
@jp3813 3 ай бұрын
The best thing about the Monday Night War is that you can keep switching between Raw & Nitro to keep your interest at a high level. The Cruiserweights of WCW in particular had very entertaining matches. And while the Hardcore division in the WWF leaned more on comedy, their bouts were still generally fun to watch. Hence, the viewership decline during the Ruthless Aggression Era despite the controversial content still being present as well as having a stacked roster (the Smackdown Six really outclassed Raw's stars).
@86compgeek
@86compgeek 3 ай бұрын
Ultimately, you can highlight the worst of any era and claim that period was really terrible. Nothing can be perfect from top to bottom. There was a lot of crap in the Attitude Era but the high-spots overshadowed the weak moments.
@brucewayne6582
@brucewayne6582 3 ай бұрын
And ultimately this is how anything is judged once it's over. As you stated nothing is ever actually perfect. When its over, its about did the good outweigh the bad. How good was the good stuff. The peaks of the Attitude were incredible. They took wrestling to heights unforeseen prior to or after it. And ruthless aggression era was also great. So that's saying a lot.
@mikenayers5981
@mikenayers5981 3 ай бұрын
Take the “Golden Era” and just show clips of Piper’s comments to Mr. T.
@Filmation77
@Filmation77 3 ай бұрын
Like it or not, The Attitude Era was so dialed in to the rebellious "F-You" late 1990's culture and it did reflect the mentality of late 90's young boys that this was also the era of Howard Stern and Beavis and Butthead, Gangsta Rap etc. The extra Smut was just extra seasoning that was needed to erase the Hokey Hulk Hogan 1980's
@alsmith1981
@alsmith1981 3 ай бұрын
Unlike today's little whiny bitches with their "mental health", etc
@tp2005
@tp2005 3 ай бұрын
Right. What I've come to realize is, Vince McMahon was never some creative genius by any stretch...the Attitude Era was really just WWF catching lightning in a bottle. Vince is basically an emotionally stunted man-child (as is Vince Russo), so his tastes and sensibilities just happened to line up perfectly with the way pop culture was heavily centered around the interests of horny teenage boys and young men in the late 90's through the early aughts. I think this was also a factor in the big, gradual drop-off of fans as time went on. Vince just tried to do the same stuff but it wasn't reflecting the times.
@alsmith1981
@alsmith1981 3 ай бұрын
@@tp2005well he did alright for himself with a phenomenally successful product.
@ecogreco
@ecogreco 3 ай бұрын
and I hated every moment of it. I hated late 90s culture, I hated Limp Bizkit, I hated hip hop, I hated raunchy entertainment. I was miserable during that time because I was bullied due to that late 90s mentality boys had. The worst part is everyone thought it was so "rebelious" but it wasn't, instead it was everyone acting like assholes. I also missed the Hogan era during that time.
@miguelbayonrivera2467
@miguelbayonrivera2467 3 ай бұрын
​@@ecogrecoWord. Acting juvenile and inmature doesn't equal being "rebellious".
@jasonsmith530
@jasonsmith530 3 ай бұрын
the whole "Vince is a creep" angle aged very poorly
@GLJosh
@GLJosh 3 ай бұрын
Life imitates art?
@Midragor
@Midragor 3 ай бұрын
It never aged at all, he always was a creep and always will be. Then. Now. Forever
@chadnickelson5928
@chadnickelson5928 3 ай бұрын
@@Midragor he’s not a crepe it’s all bullshit
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 3 ай бұрын
Dawn Marie once said that a backstage segment where Vince propositioned her was unplanned, and he was coming onto her for real, even though the cameras were rolling. She also says that she got fired from WWE for trying to make a complaint about Vince's behaviour.
@tomseville2345
@tomseville2345 3 ай бұрын
@@chadnickelson5928 He's not a French Pancake? Well damn...
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast 3 ай бұрын
Having watched the Attitude Era as it happened.....it wasn't anywhere near as perfect as people claim it was. There was a lot of greatness but there was a LOT of bad booking, dumb angles and terrible matches.
@tp2005
@tp2005 3 ай бұрын
I went back and watched most of the episodes several years back before YT got so copyright heavy. I was struck by how ridiculously boring most of the shows were. The lower and mid cards were so sloppily and lazily booked. It just so happened that the upper card and main event scenes tended to be good enough to carry the rest of the show.
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast 3 ай бұрын
@@tp2005 I totally agree. Those of us who watched it live thought it was amazing at the time but it really wasn't. Now, people who've only seen highlight reels claim it was the best era ever.
@masterkillahx
@masterkillahx 3 ай бұрын
Now we have lame stuff today like women wrestling and corny judgement day. Ratings down the toilet and if you tell people you watch that crap you’ll get laughed at.
@InfectiousGroovePodcast
@InfectiousGroovePodcast 3 ай бұрын
@@masterkillahx 😂 😂 😂
@BrandonTheGamer1996
@BrandonTheGamer1996 3 ай бұрын
​@@InfectiousGroovePodcastsmark
@davidnec571
@davidnec571 3 ай бұрын
1990-1997 were by far my favorite WWF years. Montreal Screwjob ended my happiness for the product for at least a few years.
@chrispollard341
@chrispollard341 3 ай бұрын
Those were the lamest years (well 1990-1992 aside). The real Golden Era was the 80s.
@ojl392
@ojl392 3 ай бұрын
The fact that the Attitude Era solidified WWE's monopoly on wrestling in the United States automatically dispels your claim that it was the worst era. The worst era comes down to around the mid 2010s all the way until Vince left, or the New Generation era.
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490
@officialfumofeltingchannel1490 3 ай бұрын
Mid 2010s-present is the worst
@DeadTheHype
@DeadTheHype 3 ай бұрын
I'm probably in the minority, but Ministry of Darkness era Undertaker is not only my favorite but the best version of the character. That was him at his scariest. And the storyline started off good, it's the WWE's fault for messing it up adding Vince and The Corporation.
@American-Zero
@American-Zero 3 ай бұрын
They should have NEVER merged the Ministry and The Corporation. Undertaker was no longer the leader of this dark cabal of minions, The McMahons were. They should have had them continue to war with Vince's corporation instead of making one super group.
@danielknox2792
@danielknox2792 3 ай бұрын
MOD Taker easily my favourite ever character
@bigdaddykush1830
@bigdaddykush1830 3 ай бұрын
I always liked satanic undertaker...it was very Kevin Sullivan in the 8os
@7an7ara
@7an7ara 3 ай бұрын
Ministry undertaker was what made me realise wrestling is fake as a kid. Supernatural stuff happening and young me was like "why isn't he in the news for doing these things?!" So yeah, not a fan, and started me on a lifetime of being a non-fan of undertaker.
@q.h.s5051
@q.h.s5051 3 ай бұрын
I was more a fan of the Taker the year prior from 1996-1998 which is the Lord of Darkness. Ministry Taker is awesome but because of the Corporate story it takes him down a few pegs for me
@LibraJohnny
@LibraJohnny 3 ай бұрын
You can also add the too many titles changes, and I don't even mention the Hardcore Title.
@zanethind
@zanethind 3 ай бұрын
Yeah but sadly that's what made the era so hot titles being changed because fans that time liked it but those same fans complain about short title Reigns literally shooting themselves in the foot
@TheSBleeder
@TheSBleeder 3 ай бұрын
Vince McMahon and Vince Russo both hated the concept of professional wrestling. I'm really surprised that when they had to drop the "WWF" name that McMahon didn't rename it the "World Entertainment Federation" or something.
@mnorris790
@mnorris790 3 ай бұрын
You know people talk about the attitude era being basically softcore porn, but I was watching the Chris Colt Dark Side of the Ring and there's a guy on there who pointed out that for gay men, wrestling has always been softcore porn. So it didn't come entirely out of nowhere.
@jamesreece9502
@jamesreece9502 3 ай бұрын
Ministry Taker is way cooler than Biker Taker.
@miguelbayonrivera2467
@miguelbayonrivera2467 3 ай бұрын
When you put it that way, yeah. Biker Taker sucks.
@cripplermaximus
@cripplermaximus 3 ай бұрын
We romanticize the past. The Attitude era is awesome if you only focus on the great stuff and ignore the lame stuff. And there was in fact a lot of cringey, unfunny, and boring moments.
@jeffro9252
@jeffro9252 3 ай бұрын
Naw, it was pretty much all awesome. It’s definitely a you had to be there thing though.
@SkunkApe407
@SkunkApe407 3 ай бұрын
I'm one of the first to acknowledge the many shortcomings of the Attitude Era, but I still think it was the best Era. You can still be a fan and admit flaws in the product. The two aren't mutually exclusive if you aren't clannish and immature.
@zanethind
@zanethind 3 ай бұрын
Exactly I'm glad someone finally gets it
@zanethind
@zanethind 3 ай бұрын
​@@SkunkApe407exactly
@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky
@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky 3 ай бұрын
It was something pretty special about those 3 or 4 years because wrestling was in the mainstream in pop culture. Everyone knew the name stonecold Steve Austin and later on The Rock
@mcoeif
@mcoeif 3 ай бұрын
I feel like racism accusations for the Attitute Era are really REALLY overstated. I only really consider Goldust's and X-Pac's blackfaces as the incidences that really crossed the line. I don't even really consider the NOD faction as WWE being racist as it was their take on America's race relations, however uncomfortable it was for everyone. On the other hand in Ruthless Aggression, you got Triple H's openly racist promos on Booker T on the lead up to Wrestlemania 19, Vince McMahon saying N word in national TV. They also had their NOD style race baiting gimmicks like Theodore Long's Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson schtick back in 2003/2004. Or John Cena cutting a "all Mexican-Americans are illegal immigrants" promo on Eddie Guerrero once. And many others. But yeah, the Attitude Era is the only era in WWE that touched on uncomfortable racial stuff apparently.
@larosha1
@larosha1 3 ай бұрын
Agree!
@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky
@WesleyWilkins-qf2ky 3 ай бұрын
I liked 99 spooky Taker. It gave way to his best entrance music too
@murmursmeglos
@murmursmeglos 3 ай бұрын
I don't remember thinking it was all 'peaches and cream', but it was definitely exciting and raw, without the incredibly corporate feel it has today. Criticizing the mid to lower card when they were getting hot reactions, something which has been sorely lacking for the decades since (including now). There was so much going on, lots of experimentation, it was like a variety show, there was obviously going to be some crap. It certainly wasn't perfect but I notice that many of the things that create buzz nowadays, they have qualities that mirror something from the Attitude Era. You could do this kind of countdown for every era (poor storylines, neglected wrestlers, things that don't work ect) but I think the reason the Attitude Era is still the best is that it simply had more. Especially that crucial thing called competition! One reason I find the modern era a turn off is that money rules WWE above all else now and it could not be more obvious. Perhaps I just prefer that grungy feel to wrestling, not this sparkly glittery modern style.
@ev14304
@ev14304 3 ай бұрын
also remember they did a lot of show long stories, and if you weren't into it, it made it for another long show....
@samadreason2667
@samadreason2667 3 ай бұрын
The attitude era was the greatest wrestling era it did have some weird moments but it doesn't take away from how great it was
@Justin_L_Smith_
@Justin_L_Smith_ 3 ай бұрын
There was a point where my brother's first wife said it's not wrestling anymore, it's gang warfare. Then a couple months later they named a PPV Gang Warfare.
@jliller
@jliller 3 ай бұрын
There was no "Gang Warfare" PPV. The seemingly endless feud between NOD, DOA, and Los Boriquas (and to a lesser extent Truth Commission and DX) was widely referred to as the "gang wars" era, although I'm not sure if WWF ever called it that or it was simply an internet thing that really caught on.
@miguelbayonrivera2467
@miguelbayonrivera2467 3 ай бұрын
​@@jliller It was indeed called "Gang Warz", maybe using a "Z" instead of an "S" to look "edgy" or something.
@jliller
@jliller 3 ай бұрын
@@miguelbayonrivera2467 "Gang Warz" would fits right in with the later spelling of the Dudley Boyz and Hardy Boyz. Best I can tell there may have been a promo for the Boriquas-DOA match at Summerslam '97 that used the "gang wars" term, but I can't find a video of it online. The PPV itself didn't use that tagline or subtitle.
@dominojuggalo13
@dominojuggalo13 3 ай бұрын
It was Gang Warz and it was a tagline to Survivor Series ‘97. But that’s just nitpicking, you’re absolutely right it was basically gang warfare for about a year.
@jliller
@jliller 3 ай бұрын
@@dominojuggalo13 The Survivor Series '97 tagline was actually Gang RULZ. Which is a much worse use of the "hip Z" than Gang Warz"
@GlenNewsome
@GlenNewsome 3 ай бұрын
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
@arleneconverse1238
@arleneconverse1238 3 ай бұрын
Vince used the "using your addiction as a storyline" crap ALL THE WAY IN 2020 with Jeff Hardy.
@jackcawley8470
@jackcawley8470 3 ай бұрын
To say it was secretly the worst era is absolutely ridiculous.
@endersdragon34
@endersdragon34 3 ай бұрын
To expand on this.... Even the upper card match quality could very quite a lot. I think part of this is that with Michaels hurt, Bret gone, Austin often wrestling injured, Rock not meant to be super serious, HHH a little raw (some pun intended), etc. there were no true in ring technicians that could pull that 5 star match off until Angle starts to get big.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
Benoit arriving also helped.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 3 ай бұрын
​@@camerondalton1495In the early 2000s we got Angle, Jericho, Benoit, the Guerreros, Rey Mysterio, Edge and Christian, the Hardys and the Dudley Boyz giving us great match after great match, and add to that, the return of Shawn Michaels.
@endersdragon34
@endersdragon34 3 ай бұрын
Yeah getting the Radicalz definitely helped too. In terms of in ring action 1997 was great, 1998 was great before WrestleMania horrible after it 1999 was horrible. Then 2000/2001 were great again. I'm watching through the attitude era again on peacock and am just about to get out of the dark ages but if I watch one more HHH vs Test fight I will scream lol
@partsunknown1679
@partsunknown1679 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
​@@partsunknown1679 He's saying that at the time the wrestling from the main event guys during the Attitude Era namely 1998-1999 was inconsistent. Many of the top guys like HHH and Rock hadn't yet found their groove as they would in 2000. You could argue it didn't get better and more consistent until guys like Benoit, Angle, and Jericho were given focus.
@HeartyArtie
@HeartyArtie 3 ай бұрын
What happened to this guy's speech patterns? He sounds he's doing a King Booker impression now.
@matunusdonnerhammer3423
@matunusdonnerhammer3423 3 ай бұрын
I think the main problem with the attitude era was, that suspension of disbelief only works to a certain degree. While wrestling was always scripted, other eras still had somewhat believable storylines in the context of the setting and the lore of the gimmicks. But when attitude era heels murdered and raped their way through the roster on live TV without any legal consequences, when old ladies gave birth to hands, not to mention a certain necrophilia angle, it simply became ridiculous.
@catholicguy3605
@catholicguy3605 Ай бұрын
Today's product is %100 less entertaining. I'd rather be entertained and know it is fake, then suspend my disbelief for a 30 min Sami Zayn or Johnny Gargano match.
@Riff_III
@Riff_III 3 ай бұрын
Hilariously, Vince Russo is now working together with DLO for Rocky Mountain Pro Wrestling
@MegaJetty1
@MegaJetty1 3 ай бұрын
TO BE FAIR...some of the women employed in the attitude weren't actual wrestlers, they were valets and managers. Being eye-candy was in their job description. Don't tell female wrestlers to be nothing but eye-candy and don't tell the eye-candy valets and managers to be wrestlers. Let them decide for themselves which they want to be. As for King, he was played a horn-dog heel commentator. Being a horn-dog is natural for people.
@southbeachtalent
@southbeachtalent 3 ай бұрын
I was in grade school when the AA began. Went to high school in 99. For a teenager, there was no better TV. If you don't think young kids would love a revival of something similar you're nuts
@bsmusic8837
@bsmusic8837 Ай бұрын
#8 - "Came from the brain of Vince Russo". Goes on to name 3 out of 4 storylines that happened after he left.
@Dannytcp69
@Dannytcp69 3 ай бұрын
The Attitude Era ruled, stuck an old Raw on other month and was glued to the screen, nothing like today's stuff
@StairwellTheCat
@StairwellTheCat 3 ай бұрын
1:15 Rob Thomas from Matchbox 20
@scamp838
@scamp838 3 ай бұрын
wCw and ECW didn't treat their wrestlers any better either at the time... Bret Hart, Sabu and Scott Hall were testimate to that. Wrestling just treated their wrestlers awfully in general and only really looked at it properly because of the Benoit tragedy.
@StopPanakinAnakin
@StopPanakinAnakin 3 ай бұрын
Woah, the same shit you see on TV and movies was on TV at the time! WOAH! AND IN THE 90s WOAH!
@chrissalem3747
@chrissalem3747 3 ай бұрын
They didn't "fiddle with" the mania 2000 main event. The rock absolutely screwed up in the royal rumble. 100% his fault that we got a McMahon in every corner. Simon you used to be alright. Now you're just kind of annoying. The attitude era absolutely WAS good and entertaining. Take off your recency bias glasses and stop pretending to be woke. You loved it too.
@KurtCrockenberg
@KurtCrockenberg 3 ай бұрын
Simon Miller with you're videos are you trying to get dislikes. This is another bad video from Whatculture Pro Wrestling or Whatculture WWE like Why The PG Era isn't the Problem for WWE and Why you shouldn't hate WWE and Why WWE is Screwing up John Cena SMH :(
@jasontodd1896
@jasontodd1896 3 ай бұрын
Bunch of crap. I hate modern fans. The current era is trash. WAy more dumb crap nowadays than in the AE. AE is the best era. Not even close
@larosha1
@larosha1 3 ай бұрын
Yea I’m sure in 30 year you’ll have people saying the current era was actually horrible
@Messwithmitchie
@Messwithmitchie 2 ай бұрын
I’m genuinely surprised mick foley is still so coherent today considering how many times I’ve seen him get hit in the head
@mrchaotiq
@mrchaotiq 3 ай бұрын
The only thing I didn't like about the attitude era was their lame attempt at the cruiserweight division. Taka, Sasuke and all them were never going to compete with what WCW had going on.
@homey100100
@homey100100 3 ай бұрын
how about that there was so many promos and not many matches every week until the PPV and then there again it was only certain matches that got put onto the card
@DateMike22
@DateMike22 3 ай бұрын
Attitude Era is not the worst era. If it weren't for the Attitude Era WWE is nowhere near what it is today. Also WCW and maybe to a lesser extent ECW don't die if the Attitude Era failed 🤷‍♂️.
@RevanLockheart-
@RevanLockheart- 3 ай бұрын
If wwe didn't get Attitude there would only be WCW/Ecw. 4:20
@bradmays1171
@bradmays1171 3 ай бұрын
No one’s arguing that it didn’t pave the way for what we have now, we’re saying that a lot of the stuff they put out was definitely a reflection of its place in time socially and that it wasn’t good then just as it isn’t good now.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
But a lot of the stuff now is kind of boring and lacks bite.
@RevanLockheart-
@RevanLockheart- 3 ай бұрын
Generational indifference will always make it difficult for people to agree on. For some it was the best living in the times for others they see it as crime. I say each ship must sail it's own story. Be Excellent 2 each other and Party on.
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
It was successful, but most of what was on Raw and Smackdown sucked tbh. The great stuff is few and far between.
@th3gr81
@th3gr81 Ай бұрын
7:44 Trish did that in 2001, not 1998. She wasn’t even in the company yet. 🙄
@Paugose
@Paugose Ай бұрын
You mean ideologues don't know what they're talking about because it's about the narrative and not the fact? Well, that's a shock if I ever saw one.
@AyVeeEhm
@AyVeeEhm 3 ай бұрын
Different Times, Different Time... Say what you may with all the PC-wOKE culture.. those were STILL THE GOOD OLD DAYS. No matter what. And honestly, if the sole aim to antagonise and find "flaws" in something or someone, there is no end.. Nothing is Perfect. Just LET IT BE...
@ketocase375
@ketocase375 3 ай бұрын
The bad wrestling angles always make me laugh...unintentional comedy! Every era has it's fair share.
@timeknowsfilmsproductions978
@timeknowsfilmsproductions978 3 ай бұрын
The Attitude Era made the WWF/WWE a BILLION dollar corporation, as well as a publicly traded one. It was also the Era that destroyed WCW, and allowed Vince McMachon to buy it. The WWE still cannot draw as much as it did in the Attitude Era. Ya know what? Sex sells, as did the violence and swearing. It’s not the wrestling world’s fault that this is a weak generation full of whiners. Hell, there is still no blood in WWE cage matches, making the cage pointless. At least AEW has that, plus some sex appeal, and swearing. I tried watching WWE a few times, it’s unwatchable to me. The women look like men, and the one who doesn’t, they call a man? I guess the WWE hates women and the veteran males that broke their bodies and died young for that company by calling her that. The facts are Becky Lynch hasn’t drawn a dime. Now Trish Stratus, Sable, Sunny, Tori Wilson, Stacey Keebler Etc did. If you experienced the Attitude Era first hand, you’d know how special it was. It was ECW on steroids(I mean on a bigger scale). It was drawing bigger numbers than all sports. But now they cannot draw numbers that large. All the WWE “marks” may think that it does well, but the facts are it hasn’t come even close to drawing numbers that the Attitude Era drew. And AEW is 100x’s better than WWE on a wrestling level. At least Tony Khan respects the sport of it. I was in it as well way back when, and actually have a connection with WWF in around 2001. I was also to do four dark matches and a spot with Scott Steiner where he attacks “fans” at ringside. But I got seriously hurt, it ruined my short career in it unfortunately. I’m trying to get my nephew into it because I still have friends in the business. So I know WWE isn’t doing as great as these “marks” think they are. There is still a black cloud over that company.
@izuakorprosper-ir9qi
@izuakorprosper-ir9qi 3 ай бұрын
Attitude era was more of entertainment than WrestleMania
@SixHundredWays
@SixHundredWays 3 ай бұрын
I love Simon but this list is COMPLETE BULLSHIT. It's so easy to sit here 26 years later, stand on a soapbox, wag fingers and say, "This was wrong!" "This was not right!" "This was not proper!" "WWE/WWF should have known better!" when the truth of the matter is WE ALL WATCHED AND ENJOYED what we were seeing. The nature of what the content was makes no difference, because as wrestling/sport entertainment fans, we were all part of the culture at the time. If the attitude era was truly as destructive, vile and abhorrent as its being described in this video, it would have not made the headway with the popularity that it had to even bring forth the ruthless aggression and the much loved (by WhatCulture Wrestling) PG era of WWE. This virtue signaling, PC hypocrisy makes me sick to my stomach. Was the ATTITUDE ERA perfect? No. Was a lot of it garbage? Absolutely, but, DONT ACT LIKE YOU DIDNT LIKE IT.
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 3 ай бұрын
The show was geared towards young men, and those were the people who enjoyed it. That doesn't mean it wasn't inappropriate at the time or uncomfortable to watch for anyone who wasn't a 10-20 year old boy. That much is implied in the name. I loved the the crazy storylines, but did it feel nice to see women not just treated like sex objects but degraded week after week? No.
@freddiejohnson6137
@freddiejohnson6137 3 ай бұрын
As far as actual wrestling goes the whole era for the most part sucked where the best matches tended to be the younger guys trying to prove themselves anything higher up on the card was more story driven. Nothing has changed now though and anyone trying to convince others that all of these hour long 6+ star match that Dave Meltzer rates will get more casual people watching obviously don't realise it would have happened already if it was going to. Like it or not the actual wrestling side of it isn't what has attracted the largest audiences and it won't suddenly change the mind of the general public. Yes the Attitude era and the Monday Night War in general was overall awful in terms of wrestling for the most part and some ofnthe things done were questionable. But it was very much the culture at the time to take things to the extreme and it kept people talking and coming back no different to a soap opera with it's over the top stories and situations.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
To be honest, the character make up for it. These long matches today don't always hit they way they should.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 3 ай бұрын
I would happily watch a Kurt Angle v Chris Benoit match as much as anything in the Attitude Era.
@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598
@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598 3 ай бұрын
I've been saying this for a while... WWF/E's two biggest eras were very little to do with 55-minute workrate fests and whatnot... they were largely based around characters, storylines, segments, presentation, and then wrestling in that order.
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 3 ай бұрын
@@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598 So you prefer 50-minute in ring promos. If you don't care about entertaining wrestling matches then go follow something else. I'm not interested in people rabbiting on for 40 minutes.
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
@@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598 Pretty much.
@authenticsportstalk1933
@authenticsportstalk1933 3 ай бұрын
WhatCulture is a bunch of whiny guys trying to be politically correct. All while they clamored over Rock return that brought back Attitude Era vibes. Plus it brought in many fans that loved that type of edgy story telling
@blok--head7472
@blok--head7472 Ай бұрын
Noticing a lot of contradictions on their part as of late... They'll say one thing, then in the next video say the exact opposite without any self awareness. Whatever gets clicks I suppose...
@extremeconcepts1
@extremeconcepts1 2 ай бұрын
@whatculture 5:58 - we need more young simon at home!
@3km143
@3km143 3 ай бұрын
It was all somewhat reasonable until number 3, that is just the complaint of the current generation that can even be offended by the very air we breathe. The mainstream of the 90's and the 2000's is just too good for people like you, which is funny becaue y'all grew up with it, and somehow, y'all grew up into being the very thing y'all were making fun of, how are you not embarassed? And no, none of you became better people or became aware of social problems, you all just decided to not know how to differenciate between humor and entertainment, and real discrimination. Boy some of the older times are just too good for you people. And oh, if you're gonna call me old man, I'm 21 btw, and I'm not exactly a fan of conservative values either (and pretty much the 90's and the 2000's were damn anti conservative)
@tirissotheios9821
@tirissotheios9821 3 ай бұрын
It's like russo was hired to make all VKM's sick fantasies into storyline. Oh, he did
@davidbrown4540
@davidbrown4540 2 ай бұрын
Raven gets Crucified in ECW: "OH DEAR GOD THAT IS WAAAAY OVER THE LINE!!" SCSA gets Crucified in WWE: "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEAH!!"
@آریامنتظمی
@آریامنتظمی 3 ай бұрын
Every era has it's own pros and cons however, because this era focused on storylines and pushing the boundaries and characters it is simply untouchable,this current era could do better if done right
@SLjimbolian
@SLjimbolian 3 ай бұрын
Well, Rikishi wasn't really "forgotten", he was injured for most of 2001. First started right before WrestleMania X-7 when he ruptured his eardrum that put him on the shelf. He would make a return in May of that year, only to injure his shoulder in his first match back from the eardrum injury. By the time he finally returned by the end of 2001, a lot has happened with the whole Invasion angle taking its course and he was left farting around in the undercard for the remainder of his WWE run until 2004.
@jchockey22
@jchockey22 3 ай бұрын
having watched the AE it was great but there were some bad things as there are with anything but what I liked the most looking back was even though some of it was bad EVERYONE had something going on there was a title for every part of the card to chase .. however the titles changed hands too much ... I love the AE heck I even like '96 to '99 WCW whenever I feel bad etc I go and watch a random episode of raw or nitro or throw on an old PPV and it instantly transports me back to a simpler time
@tomseville2345
@tomseville2345 3 ай бұрын
Shar-mail? Was that a Booker T impression? Like DX and The Nation, eh Simon?
@gfear24
@gfear24 3 ай бұрын
I've said for years that most of the angles in the Attitude Era aged like a glass of milk sitting on asphalt, in the middle of Death Valley, at high noon, in the middle of summer. I have yet to be shown how I'm wrong.
@josephmelendez8370
@josephmelendez8370 3 ай бұрын
Nobody would say that you're wrong, but that's why it was good, it was in touch with the culture of the time, which was much grittier than now. Something that wrestling struggled with for 20 years after the era ended. That doesn't take away from how successful it was, and it is also a testament to guys like Austin and the Rock who were so good that the people forgot the stuff that was bad.
@collegebro85
@collegebro85 3 ай бұрын
Every match for a PPV had actual stories and investment from the audience, unlike anything today where two people are thrown together or a battle royal is put on just to give people something to do for the show…🤨
@Tornado1994
@Tornado1994 2 ай бұрын
@@josephmelendez8370 Nah. Russo was just a Trashy Tabloid Writer.
@josephmelendez8370
@josephmelendez8370 2 ай бұрын
@@Tornado1994 you're right, he was. But that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, the WWE continued being edgy long after he left and arguably got better. So I don't see what that has to do with what I said.
@A_very_simple_guy
@A_very_simple_guy 3 ай бұрын
Just gonna throw this out here. Trish barking like a dog wasn’t in that 90s at all that was late 2000s even 2001 so when you tried to call out a random episode in 98 or even in the year in general. Trish barking like a dog isn’t part of it. I get what your trying to say that some episodes are fucking nuts but yeah I’m surprised no one else said anything
@marvelsProtege
@marvelsProtege 3 ай бұрын
8:17 she didn't want to do irl right? She sued over this didn't she?
@meherenow793
@meherenow793 3 ай бұрын
still better than EVERYTHING post-invasion angle
@chumpyman
@chumpyman 3 ай бұрын
Same could be said for any era. Mark this era down and add 30 years or more to what is happening now and look back on it and tell me it has aged well. The next generation has their own views and options to your own. Most would day that the attitude era what the best era, are they wrong to have that view? Videos like there are just options and not fact. Better yet videos like this are just filler for channels that have nothing to say anymore.
@dvda9725
@dvda9725 3 ай бұрын
WhatCulture virtue signalling again, and the comments here are equally embarrassing.
@dragongeraldb
@dragongeraldb 3 ай бұрын
What the hell is wrong with you? If you have covered wrestling for more than a week you would have known everyone in the industry says the more fans the better your doing, if everyone likes something that makes it the best at what it is being made for, do not get the time line wrong, everything has to be in its time so if your saying "this era vs another era at the same time" you've lost the plot, also Steve Austin 97 would still beat all. that's like saying "this band is better than it sounds"
@ohmoehedidnt83
@ohmoehedidnt83 3 ай бұрын
This makes me glad the two Vinces are no longer on the business
@kevthegoat8774
@kevthegoat8774 3 ай бұрын
Funny how people get offended by DX impersonating the Nation yet The Godfather said him and the rest of the Nation found it hilarious and couldn't stop laughing backstage.
@erickennedy8534
@erickennedy8534 3 ай бұрын
Well everyone is not on the joke, As black it did bother, me a bit.
@earlsanders1468
@earlsanders1468 2 ай бұрын
Speak for yourself. This era was awesome and still better than today’s wrestling.
@BLN_Snake
@BLN_Snake Ай бұрын
This video desperately tries to put over the current era of wrestling while dragging down a previous one
@zanethind
@zanethind 3 ай бұрын
Rock vs Triple H deserved their own singles match at Wrestlemania 16. Then having it robbed didn't make sense and wasn't right even if Mick desered a Wrestlemania match but we all know he had already did the miracle of winning the big one on Raw and he had that amazing HIAC match too and after Mania 16 he came out of retirement again to put over stars in hardcore matches so honestly Mick didn't need to part of Mania 16 and the Big Show should've never been in there his character and his work rate was just terrible during that time he was burnt out
@Bossman22211
@Bossman22211 3 ай бұрын
Omg please shut the hell up, we get you guys love this new age flipping and 10 kick outs but these guys single handed saved the wrestling business
@barrydunne8096
@barrydunne8096 3 ай бұрын
The attitude era, while not always great, was easily the best era in WWF. PS.. why the hell are you trying to sound like Tom Hardy?
@Thecallmemisterajp
@Thecallmemisterajp 3 ай бұрын
I’m glad that you included number one in there. Not to act like no good came from WWE after 2000, but a lot of people who play the “Attitude Era wasn’t everything” card usually do so to try to justify the general staleness of a lot of what came after. The Attitude Era wasn’t even my favorite time in the company, but there was an overall freshness to the shows, things felt unpredictable and organic, versus a lot of the post-Attitude Era where things felt super cookie cutter and at times it felt like Vince was actively fighting against the fans to keep from giving them what they want. I really like what they’re doing now so this is hardly a “clinging to the past” post, but even with the bullshit in there, I think especially 97 (which I count) and 98 are miles more interesting than most of what came after.
@mrsejanoz523
@mrsejanoz523 3 ай бұрын
Number 8 was clearly forgotten about by them, since years later we got The Authority, which was ten times WORSE and led to some of the company's worst ratings in DECADES.
@CommanderLost
@CommanderLost 3 ай бұрын
I've now lived long enough for the greatest time in wrestling to become hated because of how weak this generation in the world is at the moment.
@jasontodd1896
@jasontodd1896 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@phantom8926
@phantom8926 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Was waiting til they complained about it using today's standards to virtue signal like the soyboys they are. Then they wonder why everything is so watered down and boring.
@agentofchaos8942
@agentofchaos8942 3 ай бұрын
This
@miguelnewmexico8641
@miguelnewmexico8641 3 ай бұрын
you're on to something, sure. but i'd dial it back a few notches. you sound about 2 seconds away from going full nutjob.
@GoldSpider55047
@GoldSpider55047 3 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it
@totttrax
@totttrax 3 ай бұрын
WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH A MODER5 LENS...IT WAS WHAT IT WAS WHEN IT WAS ....AND THE FACT PEOPLE STILL ENJOY IT GOES TO SHOW THE WORLD HAS BECOME A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN'T JUST ENJOY THINGS ANYMORE
@GoldSpider55047
@GoldSpider55047 3 ай бұрын
this
@Canrugger
@Canrugger 3 ай бұрын
A lot of it was wrong when it happened
@GoldSpider55047
@GoldSpider55047 3 ай бұрын
Every era has it's problems, Problems that were present in others or even new ones and to call the attitude era WWE's worse era objectively speaking is ridiculous and just comes off as calling it the worst because it's not your favorite era, Again it has it's problems like any other era but it being called the worst is far fetched.
@carlosrosas6397
@carlosrosas6397 3 ай бұрын
This is all BS!!! The attitud era reenvigortrated wrestling!
@leonelcardenas5847
@leonelcardenas5847 Ай бұрын
Feels so odd having Simon Miller talking about the negatives of wrestling!
@perryco34
@perryco34 3 ай бұрын
Simon is SAWFT
@GaciMeister
@GaciMeister 3 ай бұрын
Point 2 and 3 shouldn't be here. All of that was great
@checkoutchick9023
@checkoutchick9023 3 ай бұрын
Personally I loved the Attitude Era and nobody can change my mind.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 3 ай бұрын
Me too! They have told us all this mess before. And will probably do again in the near future. But us fans who grew up doing it don't care.
@joeboggio4002
@joeboggio4002 3 ай бұрын
No one is trying to
@dhenderson1810
@dhenderson1810 3 ай бұрын
I actually think the Attitude Era produced the most toxic wrestling fans, who refuse to like any other era after it.
@The_Horror_Collector1
@The_Horror_Collector1 3 ай бұрын
@@dhenderson1810then the eras after should’ve been just as good. Only the ruthless aggression era comes somewhat close.
@kevinlee9929
@kevinlee9929 3 ай бұрын
There's a reason that people still clamour for it all these years later
@MrBeenus
@MrBeenus 3 ай бұрын
I we r back and rewatched every episode of Raw and SmackDown from Survivor Series 1997 to Survivor Series 2001 and have to say, everything in this video was correct.
@Creepachrist
@Creepachrist 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for years!
@matthewbrown591
@matthewbrown591 3 ай бұрын
Liberald
@84seahawkfan
@84seahawkfan 3 ай бұрын
Cry harder
@Algo1
@Algo1 3 ай бұрын
Triple H era is starting to feel like Vince Russo meets Jim Cornette style of booking. Before the internet explodes: a good made-for-tv product with good in-ring storytelling.
@Algo1
@Algo1 3 ай бұрын
The Women's Division is better than ever. There is no (blatant) racism (tho some of the things R-Truth does are a bit dodgy if you look too hard). No Vince McMahon on or off the the screen.
@neroorton6472
@neroorton6472 3 ай бұрын
Everyone is soft these days the attitude era was prime
@perceivedvelocity9914
@perceivedvelocity9914 3 ай бұрын
I'm onboard for criticizing Vince McMahon. The idea that modern wrestling is safer than it was back then is ridiculous. Modern wrestling is both WWE and AEW. I would argue that AEW is more violent than the Attitude Era ever was .
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
Right? Edge just recently broke his leg in a spot he had no business doing.
@SkunkApe407
@SkunkApe407 3 ай бұрын
​@@camerondalton1495 you mean like when Kevin Nash did basically the same thing? Or when Sid did it? Or Mark Jindrak? The AEW/WCW parallels grow closer each day.
@MrCanuck111
@MrCanuck111 3 ай бұрын
It is certainly seems a lot safer for the female performers (particularly since Vince left).
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 3 ай бұрын
@@SkunkApe407 Indeed. Except you'd think AEW would know better
@SkunkApe407
@SkunkApe407 3 ай бұрын
@@MrCanuck111 and ol Johnny Ace. The Dastardly Duo is gone!
@peterbrix1155
@peterbrix1155 3 ай бұрын
People forget that society was different back then. Jerry springer was huge and know one took things as hard as they do now
@MixerRenegade95
@MixerRenegade95 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps They should have, We would have been spared the Troubles of now. The Piper desires Payment.
@comefeastwithme441
@comefeastwithme441 3 ай бұрын
7:08 dude stop, this mentality is why wrestling sucks now
@concerta56
@concerta56 3 ай бұрын
wow, Hunter always needed a manager or group to help throughout his career. Now who is his boss?
@dashitalker
@dashitalker 3 ай бұрын
Ministry of darkness is now the Wyatt sicks lol
@LUCKO2022
@LUCKO2022 3 ай бұрын
You are wrong Period
@multiyapples
@multiyapples 3 ай бұрын
Honestly a lot of the storylines from the attitude era didn’t age well.
@dosenplok140
@dosenplok140 3 ай бұрын
X Pac as Mark Henry was plain awesome. Loved every minute.
@jarodsimpson9497
@jarodsimpson9497 3 ай бұрын
So glad to finally see a video like this. I’ve been saying for a long time that the Attitude Era was actually bad, and the internet has collectively disagreed with me every time. The highest of high points which we all remember and love (10%), just surrounded by the lowest of lows (90%).
@jeffro9252
@jeffro9252 3 ай бұрын
No brother, it was pretty much all good stuff. It dwarfs any other era.
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
​@@jeffro9252No. It wasn't. It was horrible! Mostly shock value, little wrestling and nothing else. I don't doubt that some segments weren't great, they were, but about 70% of the time, it sucked.
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
Yep. You still have the gen x/Boomer white cishet male who wants to go back to the 90s because of blah, blah, blah, blah, muh racism was OK, muh homophobia wasn't challenged.
@criminalmindsgirl2936
@criminalmindsgirl2936 3 ай бұрын
Well, then let us know when WWE hit high ratings as it did during the Attitude Era. Because they won't.
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
@@criminalmindsgirl2936 TV ratings have hit the gutter (except for the NFL for some reason), but the WWE is now selling more merchandise than they ever did during the attitude era.
@Rratt79
@Rratt79 3 ай бұрын
MoD Was amazing!
@NexxtTimeDontMiss
@NexxtTimeDontMiss 3 ай бұрын
3/2 are awesome tho, you just too sensitive
@JLWprime10
@JLWprime10 3 ай бұрын
My favorite era in WWE was the ruthless aggression and the John cena pg era those were my favorite times in wrestling and I was getting into it during John cena era.
@loneraider88
@loneraider88 3 ай бұрын
And that's why I stopped watching this amateurish channel
@AskAdam28
@AskAdam28 3 ай бұрын
Not a single mention of TAFKAG.....
@jeffro9252
@jeffro9252 3 ай бұрын
I’m really getting tired of this let’s shit on the attitude era thing that being happening recently. It was 25 plus years ago, things were different, get over it. Honestly I think it’s jealousy, today’s generation can’t handle not being the best at something even though they very rarely are.
@larosha1
@larosha1 3 ай бұрын
It’s the trendy thing to do. They will be crapping on this era in 30 years
@100aceswid
@100aceswid 3 ай бұрын
We are living in a cupcake society.
@theandronikus5061
@theandronikus5061 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately yes, someone get me a time machine.🐧
@alsmith1981
@alsmith1981 3 ай бұрын
You've offended me😅
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
No. Just a society that wants to stand up for themselves. Cry harder. The Christian right wanted to censor and ban WWE. Stop living with rose-colored glasses.
@tntbigshow4826
@tntbigshow4826 3 ай бұрын
​@@theandronikus5061Because you're too big of a snowflake to take people not putting up with your crap.
@100aceswid
@100aceswid 3 ай бұрын
@@rexnflex1469 Cupcakes are delicious. But not human cupcakes.
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