Evidence For a Major Solar System Encounter 3 Million Years Ago

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Anton Petrov

Anton Petrov

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@Nethershaw
@Nethershaw 3 ай бұрын
I have imagined many things, but never have I imagined _heliosphere collapse._
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a large budget, poorly written Hollywood movie.
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 ай бұрын
Total collapse, nothing gets protected by the heliosphere at 22 AU, ignore Uranus being 20 AU out, nothing to see here, obviously 1 AU is even farther away... Still, let's say a complete collapse. Incoming galactic radiation rains in a bit harder, doesn't do anything to climate, which isn't impacted by ionizing radiation. Oxygen and nitrogen still intercept incoming radiation, just some acid rain and well, whatever particles would rain down anyway, as Fe-60 particles (they're not ionized this long after big bada boom), into the geological record they go.
@amciuam157
@amciuam157 3 ай бұрын
​@@johnbox271 If you are looking for such kind of production, then look no furher and try Moonfall
@wrayday7149
@wrayday7149 3 ай бұрын
@@johnbox271 If Roland Emmerich writes it.... Imma watch the hell out of it!
@Seigensi
@Seigensi 3 ай бұрын
@@wrayday7149 if your science based movies contain hell maybe skip them, they're tainted by dumb.
@slanglabadang
@slanglabadang 3 ай бұрын
The heliosphere going down to 0.4 AU is mindblowing. Great finds and thanks for the summary Anton!
@larsbitsch-larsen6988
@larsbitsch-larsen6988 3 ай бұрын
Heliosphere collapse and dust clouds passing through the solar system is an interesting idea. Many years ago I wondered why photosynthesis evolved three times. (There are three major metabolic pathways by which photosynthesis is carried out: C3 photosynthesis, C4 photosynthesis, and CAM photosynthesis) Wikipedia. These systems did not evolve at the same time and are sensitive to different wave lenghts, indicating that the climate or the sun light changed in some way. And this change could be caused by interstellar dust passing through the solar system. Likewise the Cambrian explosion indicates something like a smaller increase in radiation causing more mutations and the evolution of multicellular life.
@petermiesler9452
@petermiesler9452 3 ай бұрын
Although the Cambrian explosion was also a timing thing. Earth had a lot of material to process in order to create the stuff biology needed to advance life. Check out mineral evolution (see R. Hazen). Also the snowball Earth grinding down mountains and pouring copious amounts of "Glacial milk" into the oceans (named for the suspended fine particles.), which in turn provided building blocks for biology to build with.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I didn’t know any of that. Thanks for the info.
@FloozieOne
@FloozieOne 3 ай бұрын
Going through a cloud of helium doesn't sound too bad, but going through a cloud of plutonium doesn't sound so good.
@Jadefox32
@Jadefox32 2 ай бұрын
unfortunately plutonium doesn't regularly occur in nature so the odds of it happening are remote to the most extreme degree (as in the heat death of the universe is more likely to happen tomorrow than what you're referencing)
@texcatlipocajunior144
@texcatlipocajunior144 3 ай бұрын
Dang, I have speculated for years that the universal environment has to impact the climate of Earth. Perhaps periodically as we orbit the galaxy and perhaps randomly also as our galaxy goes through it's own cycles. Very cool that people are looking into this type of occurrence.
@IamPreacherMan
@IamPreacherMan 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. I suspect there are galactic zones that substantially affect our own solar systems “climate.”
@peterdarr383
@peterdarr383 3 ай бұрын
I once read in a Science magazine that the Spiral Arms of Galaxies work like waves or the wake of a boat and aren't "fixed" - meaning the Stars clump up then spread out as the Galaxy rotates. Our Star also rises and falls in relationship with the Galactic Plane, like a horse on a Merry Go Round.
@JohnSmith-fl6qd
@JohnSmith-fl6qd 3 ай бұрын
Politicians can now Institute a solar wind tax on their population's to negate the effects of solar winds on Earth's climate and prevent a heliosphere collapse.😅
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 3 ай бұрын
Because the effects of solar winds are caused by cow burps which is caused by farmers. So it's all our fault. We should all be eating algae.
@tortysoft
@tortysoft 3 ай бұрын
There was a Patrick Moore 'Sky at Night' programme about this forty years ago ! I had the BBC TV script.
@robertfindley921
@robertfindley921 3 ай бұрын
"We still don't know", "No one knows", ... I hear these a lot in your videos. But then that's the great thing about science.... honesty.
@Zanduras1
@Zanduras1 3 ай бұрын
Exactly how science should be but tends to get corrupted from time to time to push some agenda for so many different reasons.
@theophrastus3.056
@theophrastus3.056 3 ай бұрын
Oh, I don't know about that. No one knows. 😁
@83j049733rfe4
@83j049733rfe4 3 ай бұрын
I was gonna be cheeky and reply to this with the v=(video url here) but that probably would get through youtube's filter so SPOILERS: Look up "it is a mystery song ghost" That was gonna be my reply. With no explanation. Just v=whateverthefukkitis.
@nilo70
@nilo70 3 ай бұрын
That lets your imagination fly free !
@joeyhinds6216
@joeyhinds6216 3 ай бұрын
For reasons we still don't understand, people love to understand things they understand they don't understand, completely.
@josephc3276
@josephc3276 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding review on the latest science story as always Anton. Wonderful video by our favorite Wonderful Person 😊.
@Jmcc150
@Jmcc150 3 ай бұрын
The words “dense” and “thick” are still describing a gas density equivalent to such a hard vacuum that it could not be produced on earth.
@peterdarr383
@peterdarr383 3 ай бұрын
When they coated Hubble's main mirror they drew a vacuum 1,000 times rarer than the pressure of Space between Earth and The Moon. Metals that made up the chamber were liberating gases, so it was a long process.
@ivoryas1696
@ivoryas1696 3 ай бұрын
​@@peterdarr383 To be fair that only brings it _comparable_ as opposed to superior to that of the vacuum being discussed here, and vaguely at that. I think I see your point, though...
@MCGoodMedicine
@MCGoodMedicine 3 ай бұрын
lol “thick” vacuum spaces 😂
@Jmcc150
@Jmcc150 3 ай бұрын
The vacuum of space is incredibly powerful, 1×10−17 torr, though the vacuum between the Earth and the Moon is 1×10−11 torr. I believe ion-pumped chambers have reached 10-12 torr.
@peterdarr383
@peterdarr383 3 ай бұрын
@@Jmcc150 Hey - if you have ONE hydrogen atom per cubic meter at 3* Kelvin, what's the pressure ??
@gusviera3905
@gusviera3905 3 ай бұрын
This is my first time commenting. Thanks for your channel. It seems feasible that the period of our (heliosphere, solar system, earth) collective passing through the hydrogen cloud could have caused the ~1 million year period of the "snowball earth", the cause of which seems unknown. Also, it occurs to me that one of the most fundamental reasons for life to flourish here in earth is the lack of interstellar radiation. In my opinion, the "Goldilocks" planet everyone is searching for had better have some sort of heliosphere or some type of radiation shield. Hope these musings are thoughtful, if not contributive. Thank you Anton for making us smarter.
@Space30MINUTES
@Space30MINUTES 3 ай бұрын
The interstellar medium consists of ancient gas clouds that move at very fast speeds, sometimes creating shock waves and can lead to the formation of new star systems and planets. Heliopause - protective layer of the solar system created by pressure from the solar wind. About 2-3 million years ago, the solar system may have interacted with a dense cloud, which could change the size of the heliopause and leave chemical traces such as iron 60 on Earth. Currently, there are no clear conclusions about the impact of these changes on Earth's climate, but they are likely to cause changes in the ozone layer and other chemical reactions.
@travispolson6156
@travispolson6156 3 ай бұрын
Wow, you said climate change without getting a climate change fact check . Congratulations 👏 . Hearing that space can change our climate is refreshing as most climate models don't include space weather , which is crazy 🤪 .
@stevenkarnisky411
@stevenkarnisky411 3 ай бұрын
How science works. observe, verify, develop hypothesis, attempt to prove, or disprove it. Thank you, Anton!
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 3 ай бұрын
Yes sir, you are correct, no science should ever be settled no matter what the pharmaceutical companies pay people to tell you.
@fischersfritz468
@fischersfritz468 3 ай бұрын
Those effects of those clouds are in the range of hundred thousands of years. The climat change we are causing is in the range of decades.
@jeffreystewart9809
@jeffreystewart9809 3 ай бұрын
Fuck around, find out, fuck around some more, find out more, predict better ways to fuck around, fuck around, find out. 😂
@joelhungerford8388
@joelhungerford8388 2 ай бұрын
You forgot ridicule.. scientists have been suggesting this for years but were ridiculed by mainstream science as being psudeoscientists
@AceSpadeThePikachu
@AceSpadeThePikachu 3 ай бұрын
Could fresh return samples of moon and asteroid rocks shed more light on this, as their surfaces have no erosion and thus perfectly preserve everything that interacts with them?
@mbabcock111
@mbabcock111 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I was thinking about something like this a few months ago. About what would happen if our solar system ran into a very thick cloud of gas that disrupted orbits, the Oort Cloud collapsed inward and reshuffled the solar system, Jupiter and Saturn combine leading to stellar ignition resulting in a binary star system with a brown dwarf, etc.
@13garage._
@13garage._ 3 ай бұрын
maybe this is what wiped out our precursor civilization.. that built pyramids and stonehenge yadayadyada... great flood, lizard people; 🤔
@upsguppy520
@upsguppy520 3 ай бұрын
our star is a reccurent nova star many stars are we have stratigraphic records of burning flooding freezing like clockwork every 12k years going back 5 cycles and its been 12k since the last one buckle up its boomtime we hve relatavistic isotopes on our planet that can only come from our star
@jimidangertv4569
@jimidangertv4569 3 ай бұрын
Our path through the galaxy will change things for sure.
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 3 ай бұрын
Lucky it's a slow passage.
@v8infinity8
@v8infinity8 3 ай бұрын
I heard something like this years ago- that sometimes our Solar system is travelling through colder parts of the Galaxy- can cause Ice Ages. I suppose the opposite would be true too. Thanks for your Posts. xxx
@monnoo8221
@monnoo8221 3 ай бұрын
yes you heard. he difference could be beween 5k and 2.3k. seen from earths stratospheric layers, that's pretty irrelevant. Back in the days, our athmosphere and the dynamics of its layers, its ineraction with the magnetosphere, and such the solar wind, has been understood *not* at all. even today we don't. butt we better know that we don't.
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 3 ай бұрын
So when the sun's heliosphere is only 0.4 AU across and the earth is exposed to intergalactic wind, did the earth have constant auroras all the time caused by the interstellar medium?
@AisleEpe-oz8kf
@AisleEpe-oz8kf 3 ай бұрын
Warm neutral hydrogen would be protection from the interstellar medium somewht? Thanks for calling the heliosphere as the solar atmpsphere.
@MyJeer
@MyJeer 3 ай бұрын
If a star passes through a large enough cloud of hydrogen and helium, would it extend its life span?
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 3 ай бұрын
Not in any significant way. A valid question though. 👍
@ryanrobison8973
@ryanrobison8973 3 ай бұрын
Not really, but there has been some speculation that one of the reasons we don't see older stars near the central black hole is because the jets/powerful outflow of the disk "supercharges" the stars around. It's only one of many explanations for not seeing older stars though, but thought I'd include it!
@JimboJones-ld7el
@JimboJones-ld7el 3 ай бұрын
Mini nova
@acemanhomer1
@acemanhomer1 3 ай бұрын
ahh, one of my old theories played out in different fashion…didn’t consider the affects on the sun..but I have wondered how much debris, water included, could “pour from the heavens” and flood the world…by just flying through such stellar clouds..
@yodieyuh
@yodieyuh 3 ай бұрын
Ever thought about it with comet tails?
@acemanhomer1
@acemanhomer1 3 ай бұрын
@yodieyuh6077 I haven't, but I see where if they too are made of ice etc, then that tail, if it fell into earths gravity well, could that too pull in a large chunk of ice/water etc.. 🤔
@toughenupfluffy7294
@toughenupfluffy7294 3 ай бұрын
Hey! The LRCC is just like me! Not particularly big, but pretty dense!
@earthknight60
@earthknight60 3 ай бұрын
Just a mild correction. The ice age we are in started around 34 million years ago. We are in the Late Cenozoic Ice Age. Within that ice age we have periods of greater or lesser glaciation, each on their own cycles, and while we did enter a period of more intense glaciation around 2-3 million years ago, even that was more mild than the period we entered around 700 thousand years ago with the Mid-Pleistocene Transition.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
No, it's all Human caused😂😂😂 we must be Taxed Higher so we stop the climate from changing 😂😂😂.
@gregm4441
@gregm4441 3 ай бұрын
@@markmatt9174 Yes Billionaires need to make more money so we must be taxed more. It's for your own good, and theirs of course too.
@mickimicki5576
@mickimicki5576 3 ай бұрын
There is also the effect of decreasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as plants absorb it and then are buried in sediment. Ice ages have been attributed to this reverse greenhouse effect and scarcity of carbon dioxide. Other scientists have opined that plants have been given a new lease on life by the mining and release of carbon back into the atmosphere.
@J56609
@J56609 3 ай бұрын
A billion extremely poor people throughout the world need to be stopped from cooking and boiling water with cheap carbon energy so rich western @ssholes can pat each other on the back at their exclusive, swanky cocktail parties. I just live for rich liberals feeling good about themselves
@Rbourk252
@Rbourk252 3 ай бұрын
It sounds plausible. Super Nova material found without a supernova. So we passed through an old nova cloud which squashes the H sphere. Places a whole new meaning to wrong place at the wrong time. Or we’re on a bandwagon and we can’t get off!
@superkittyshow1782
@superkittyshow1782 3 ай бұрын
Movie Day After Tomorrow comes in mind
@gordonwallin2368
@gordonwallin2368 3 ай бұрын
Another great video, thank you, Anton. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@toughenupfluffy7294
@toughenupfluffy7294 3 ай бұрын
Cosmic Ray is the Interstellar Medium. He can read your palm or the sole of your foot and tell you what's happening on planet Oit!
@i-love-space390
@i-love-space390 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for continuing to educate us in astrophysics. On a less serious note, so there is a possibility that radiation turned us all into Super Heroes, just like in the comic books?(only over thousands of generations of mutations.)
@anthonyalfredyorke1621
@anthonyalfredyorke1621 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Anton, another WONDERFUL video more Brain food for us , thanks again I'm still WAVING AND STAYING WONDERFUL, have a great weekend. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
@wrayday7149
@wrayday7149 3 ай бұрын
I mean.... they could make a proper interstellar space probe and launch it... maybe even put in some kind of relay/repeater system so it can talk to voyager 1/2.
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 3 ай бұрын
Omg, so the climatic changes might be a lot larger than our current models. "How dare you."
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 3 ай бұрын
Our climate models are founded on our ignorance. People hate to admit that they're ignorant especially when it means they have a guaranteed income.
@thisisjeffwong
@thisisjeffwong 3 ай бұрын
If there’s new information, it will be incorporated into the models, but given that these things change on timescales much larger than human existence, what are the odds that we pumped a lot of previously stored carbon into the air and it was a complete coincidence that the temperature increased? It would be nice to find out we were wrong all along. But there’s your bias.
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 3 ай бұрын
@thisisjeffwong quick question: What information is put into the models? Do they have solar activity? Are things modeled for the outcome that they choose? In my real opinion all the climate change stuff is bullshit as we don't really live long enough to understand the grand scale of timelines that the Earth does, if we look back through the history of temperatures instead of a select group we find that the Earth does very very extreme temperature swings. We just don't know what all to factor in for, but we think we are the end all be all of creation so everything has to be our fault, or our success, we are so full of shit that it is unreal. Those scientists cannot imagine the fact there's something larger at work than us. That's just my opinion, from someone that has lived over 50 years with a new threat brewing every few years to decades and there's always something that us poor humans can do to help save the fracking planet when in fact all they are able to do is put new taxes on us in order to take our money and make things more expensive in order to keep us serfs in our place.
@kalrandom7387
@kalrandom7387 3 ай бұрын
@thisisjeffwong oh I meant to ask if they've ever incorporated the solar forcing part into the models?
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 3 ай бұрын
The isthmus of panama rising up between north and south America about 2.5 million years ago blocked an ocean current that is thought to have moderated the northern hemisphere climate patterns. Just a theory I read about a long time ago. 🤷‍♂️
@dichebach
@dichebach 3 ай бұрын
Setting aside experiments, which cannot replicate the scale of terrestrial climates though they may be able to replicate specific conditions, climate science is all "correlational." Much like the social sciences, the potential to effectively use experimentation is extremely limited.
@ryanrobison8973
@ryanrobison8973 3 ай бұрын
You have 0 idea what you are talking about lmao. It's very clear to anyone who does science, just so you know.
@blackbirdpie217
@blackbirdpie217 3 ай бұрын
I have wondered if something like this might have occurred. There are some very unexplainable phenomena in the solar system that might be explained this way. Like the changes on Mars, depletion of the magnetic field, the many dendritic channels on the surface that some think were the result of water, but they don't have a destination, no sea. The elevation change across its equator.. And the disruption of Uranus' axis. Seems something happened to the planets changing them forever.
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 3 ай бұрын
Hominids were likely undergoing crucial evolutionary changes around 2.5 million years ago. Bipedalism, brain size increase, and tool use.
@meyou2696
@meyou2696 3 ай бұрын
You are amazing! If I was your grandmother I would talk about you all the time. Thank you for sharing!
@NancyRode-u9i
@NancyRode-u9i 3 ай бұрын
😂
@michaellee6489
@michaellee6489 3 ай бұрын
I'm a 50 y.o. man and I talk about Anton all the time. He's the most Wonderful Person I know!!!
@murderedcarrot9684
@murderedcarrot9684 3 ай бұрын
Judging by all the isotopes of materials on earth I'd say we plow through clouds alot.
@MyraSeavy
@MyraSeavy 3 ай бұрын
WoW! So many people are studying so many things! Thanks, Anton, for summing it all up for us! Btw, I can't wait to see your smile at the end of each video!! 😊❤🎉
@ryanleonard4980
@ryanleonard4980 3 ай бұрын
Your awesome Anton.....I hope you find nothing but success on this platform
@Dr.Gunsmith
@Dr.Gunsmith 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful Anton wonderfully explained 🙏
@patrickbureau1402
@patrickbureau1402 3 ай бұрын
Thx Again Couzin - WE are such smart 'Flyz' in this AMAZING SOUP - Amen !🇨🇦
@marknovak6498
@marknovak6498 3 ай бұрын
What is scary is that we are dependent on technology and we could enter a zone that could disrupt key technology. These disruptions may not be seen and we would not know what hit us even after it hit.
@walterblanc9708
@walterblanc9708 3 ай бұрын
Well we pretty much lived fearing we might be all gone in 15 minutes right through the 50's - 90's, today we sort of forgot about it. Clouds interfering with the solar system is way down the list of scary for me.
@justinbarion2269
@justinbarion2269 3 ай бұрын
Frankly, I wake up every day, hoping for that day to come
@turtletom8383
@turtletom8383 3 ай бұрын
LMAO. Sheltered comment
@jamesmylife6578
@jamesmylife6578 3 ай бұрын
Our world might not be the same but the world would definitely live on 🙏
@JH-zo5gk
@JH-zo5gk 3 ай бұрын
I tend not to fear that I can not any control of. Nuke war, solar flares, space clouds..... I can't do anything about it if it happens. So why worry about it.
@Rayleigh-ol6kw
@Rayleigh-ol6kw 3 ай бұрын
HI4PI means an all-sky survey of HI (aitch-one), or neutral hydrogen. The 4*pi is the solid angle of the full celestial sphere.
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan 3 ай бұрын
The Black Cloud was a long short story about this being a threat, but it turns out the cloud is a superintelligent being, one of many, that was delighted to discover life bound to a planet, rather than the norm of giant, black, space cloud.
@aethelfrithofbernica
@aethelfrithofbernica 3 ай бұрын
Neato, I'm gonna check this out
@danmentink3256
@danmentink3256 3 ай бұрын
Wow. That cloud explains a lot! My mind just boggled with all the lines of research! The gass giants are in the outskirts of the solar system because of intergalactic clouds.
@thruknobulaxii2020
@thruknobulaxii2020 3 ай бұрын
It’s a jolly good thing that we’re not on a Federation Starship. If we were, we be for it. Traversing any kind of ‘expanse’ in a starship usually leads to some kind of shenanigans. Thankfully, it doesn’t usually last for more than an hour.
@onnot701
@onnot701 3 ай бұрын
How much extra mass did the sun and plannet scoop up
@azjaguar
@azjaguar 3 ай бұрын
So, somewhere in our 250,000,000 earth year journey around our Milky Way we encountered a bubble of hydrogen slightly warmer than absolute zero within the interstellar medium. And, as we continue to penetrate the subject “bubble”, the bubble is acting upon us how? And, at what point in our revolution are we expected to exit the bubble? And, to what effect will a surmised rollback to the original aether affect us, as well? 😊 2:15
@Ittiz
@Ittiz 3 ай бұрын
I've done videos on this. I think the catalyst of the current ice age is the evolution of plants. They're getting too efficient, so they consume the CO2 too quickly, causing them to die off, then grow back ect... These swings work with milankovitch cycles to created glacial periods.
@ryanrobison8973
@ryanrobison8973 3 ай бұрын
There was that weird water plant/fern that was so good at recycling CO2 that it caused an ice age!
@aethelfrithofbernica
@aethelfrithofbernica 3 ай бұрын
Far future weather reports will feature a cosmic weather section. It'll mostly be an in-joke that our hyper-advanced future society will enjoy. "Thanks Luke. Now on to the weather for our local cluster! As you can see, weather patterns in our cluster seem to be holding steady for the next three thousand years! Tune in tomorrow for more updates!"
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
😂 yep, dont worry if we let the Government give us a BIG Carbon TAX they can solve the "Climate Crisis "😂😂😂 I love how we magically entered snowball earth and came out of it while we are still in a Glacialation period (or coming out of the last one.) Gullibility of many of our species is sad.
@ivornelsson2238
@ivornelsson2238 3 ай бұрын
As long as the conventional scientists don´t include the formation of the Solar System with the overall galactic formation in our Milky Way , they just keep on guessing - and providing lots of guessing materiel and butter on the bread to the wonderful Anton.
@bernard2735
@bernard2735 3 ай бұрын
Good timing Anton! I just finished reading 'The Black Cloud' by Fred Hoyle 🙃
@farrier2708
@farrier2708 2 ай бұрын
It's so long since I read that, that I'd almost forgotten about it. You reminding me, gave me pause for thought. Could such a feeding entity be mistaken for a Dyson Sphere? 🤔
@cokemachine5510
@cokemachine5510 3 ай бұрын
Try about 12000 years ago. We ad humans today have zero idea what happened beyond that. Sorry. Believe me now or Believe me later.
@konradcomrade4845
@konradcomrade4845 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful, amazing, I have read about the supernova hypothesis of 60Fe deposits before; but this is new! and implies many more "dangers" for Earth!
@tonics7121
@tonics7121 3 ай бұрын
I LOVE I don't know. The three most truthful words spoken by honest humans. Thank you for the appropriate number you use, and then stirs in me a sense of wonder and awe.
@thijsjong
@thijsjong 3 ай бұрын
About 3 million years ago species homo branched of from the great ape. Is the crucial brain gene mutation caused by this period of heliosphere reduction?
@LordMarcus
@LordMarcus 3 ай бұрын
Hello, wonderful Anton. This is person.
@keirfarnum6811
@keirfarnum6811 2 ай бұрын
Great minds and all that...
@joelblack684
@joelblack684 3 ай бұрын
Wild, love it, always a great new topic. This one really threw my mind in overdrive.
@MikeHunt-c5p
@MikeHunt-c5p 3 ай бұрын
So the ice ages were caused by cold clouds ?
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 3 ай бұрын
Speculation but they might have been the trigger. It's another possible tipping point. There are a lot of them possible in a chaotic system like the weather.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
Add in the 250million year cycles where the EARTH SOLAR SYSTEM is on the leading edge of the Milkyway (when the Galatic travel direction thru the universe is considered. ) we are far out on our Galatic Arm as well as rotating around this particular Galatic Arm. That means at times all these clouds are being pushed/compressed together tighter as the movements all smash into them. Probably why we have major extinction events every 250 million years combined with the Snowball Earth events. Catch the right rotational cycle where We are on very front edge of the galatic plow and the extra cold of space impingement drives climate much lower.
@ottolehikoinen6193
@ottolehikoinen6193 3 ай бұрын
The standard explanation for the Pleistocene Glaciations is of course the closing of the Panama Channel, which stopped the warmer waters of the Pacific from entering the Atlantic.
@hawkbartril3016
@hawkbartril3016 3 ай бұрын
I love to hang around till the end so I can catch "Anton's great see you later smile"
@yvonnemiezis5199
@yvonnemiezis5199 3 ай бұрын
Interesting information as always, thanks 👍😊
@davemi00
@davemi00 3 ай бұрын
Science, the never ending pursuit, observation and studies for knowledge.
@kreynolds1123
@kreynolds1123 3 ай бұрын
It might be interesting to question how a dense intersteller clouds may have impact planetary atmopheres. If it's sugested that the heilosphere could have dropped to 0.2 AU, a questions to ask might be, "could a dense interstellar cloud strip the Martian atmosphere faster than solar winds? And let's not forget Earth. We know earth once had a much more dense atmosphere. Could it be that a significant portion was stripped, that maybe the fact that Earth is closer to the sun and larger than Mars and Earth gaving a sizable magnetic field have helped saved whats left of Earth's atmosphete from becoming more like Mars?
@stoneageart9965
@stoneageart9965 3 ай бұрын
WE are in an Ice Age. Not a snowball ice age,an apple core ice age..still juicy in the middle
@spvillano
@spvillano 3 ай бұрын
Well, in Antarctic ice, Fe-60 was found from 40000 years ago, it's still being deposited as we pass through a wee cloud of it. Other layers were also found in earlier strata (obviously not much iron left, but the decay chain is easily ascertained). As for heliosphere, 22 AU is just beyond Uranus, so I really don't get where the rest of this solar system would lose protection. It's a function of cloud matter *and* magnetic field density, not magical whammy juice. The last time I checked, we're a wee bit deeper within the heliosphere than Uranus, unless we've moved since this afternoon and nobody told me. That said, Neptune would be getting that wonderful glow. Add in that an Fe-60 layer causing an ice ago would well, go far beyond extinction level, as Fe-60 decays into Co-60, going from a strong beta emitter to a hard gamma emitter. Overall, a really, really bad scene. Traces don't cause ice ages, additional dust maybe and the signatures of that dust would be found in the geological record and is largely absent for this non-event.
@rokasb9441
@rokasb9441 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Anton, this was very interesting!
@WarrenLacefield
@WarrenLacefield 3 ай бұрын
Humm, 🙂this interstellar neighborhood discussion reminds me of the classic 1953 science fiction book, Brain-Wave, by Poul Anderson. And also a much more recent 2021 book, Shadows of Eternity, by Gregory Benford. So how we hear suggestions that entering this local cloud might have caused ice ages about a million years ago -- some "short" time before home sapiens were first evolving (around 315,000 years ago)? And wonder what leaving that cloud for the next nearby one might entail.
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Mentions of Brain Wave and The Black Cloud. 1950s SF is making a comeback. Good. "Escapist" fiction back then was the only writing that prepared us for the future.
@rogermaddocks6614
@rogermaddocks6614 3 ай бұрын
I was just going to mention Brain Wave but you beat me to it. Clever story.
@EffToyz
@EffToyz 3 ай бұрын
Hallo Anton, this is wonderful person! 😏
@Fear.not.4.Ive.redeemedU43
@Fear.not.4.Ive.redeemedU43 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful Anton wonderful smile
@bbrebozo6417
@bbrebozo6417 3 ай бұрын
I heard that the cycle ice ages started when the isthmus of Panama formed (closing off the Pacific to Atlantic circulation). That is also about 3 MYR ago. There’s an old KZbin video “Panama and the gulf stream important for glaciation” on it.
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 3 ай бұрын
That was around 6 million years ago but it certainly did affect ocean circulation.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 3 ай бұрын
I once read about the same thing. It was thought to be about 3 myr old for some time, which has been contested by some geologists recently, but not all. Anything that affects the thermohaline circulation will have a dramatic effect on climate.
@upsguppy520
@upsguppy520 3 ай бұрын
we live in a electric universe magnetism and plasma and gas is all you need gravity is a bit player
@billsimpson604
@billsimpson604 3 ай бұрын
About once a month Anton informs us of something else that could kill us all.
@dmitrychirkov4206
@dmitrychirkov4206 3 ай бұрын
03:59 earring Anton 🔥
@cazschiller
@cazschiller 3 ай бұрын
I literally was typing this out just now!!! Hahaha yaassss 😆
@yomogami4561
@yomogami4561 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the information anton. awaiting more as further data comes in
@PyroMancer2k
@PyroMancer2k 3 ай бұрын
The G-Cloud is a myth just like the G-Spot. ;)
@mikehiggins3281
@mikehiggins3281 3 ай бұрын
I'm confused: You say this happened 2 to 3 millions of years ago and "may have started the ice ages". But ice ages have been happening for much longer than that. The Andean-Saharan ice age was 450 million years ago! 3 million years ago is 'recent history' and would be 50 million years AFTER the current Late Cenozoic ice age started.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 3 ай бұрын
The Earth has been experiencing very regular short period ice ages over the past couple of million years. This recent periodicity has no relationship to the events you've mentioned.
@ComedyKraze1
@ComedyKraze1 3 ай бұрын
Did you know if you double tap a comment it likes it?
@Ni-qc6yq
@Ni-qc6yq 3 ай бұрын
Cyclic micro nova hypothesis? Disaster cycle
@Flaaaaanders
@Flaaaaanders 3 ай бұрын
No worry about an ice age now, I just had my John Deere deleted, every time I start it now the earths temperature increases by 1/2 degree
@BartdeBoisblanc
@BartdeBoisblanc 3 ай бұрын
Anton what you discribed if true would be interplanetary climate. Imagine forcasting Earths climate over millenia with this added complexity.
@reclhoss
@reclhoss 3 ай бұрын
In before the missinfo banner!
@OntoBunny
@OntoBunny 3 ай бұрын
For a second I had hope that a gas cloud could rescue us from climate change.
@e-memers9441
@e-memers9441 3 ай бұрын
On a side note at 3:59 his left ear has a ring on it from the photo behind it
@raywright4799
@raywright4799 3 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m mistaken but isn’t the solar system oscillating through the galactic plane?
@neilreynolds3858
@neilreynolds3858 3 ай бұрын
Yes but it's a much longer cycle.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 3 ай бұрын
It occurs in about a 32-34 myr cycle, if i remember correctly.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
I believe Earth's Solar System is "rotating around " our particular galatic arm. The rotation has the effect of oscillating UP/DOWN when looking at the galatic plane. We are basically is swirling around the galatic center and swirling around our galatic arm. We rotate 1 time around the Galatic Center about every 250 million years. (Milkyway year = 250 million earth years) as best approximation. I can't recall the time our swirling is about our particular galatic arm but the 32 to 34 million years sounds about right.
@kipponi
@kipponi 3 ай бұрын
So bubbles in tub, economy and space😂❤.
@drfill9210
@drfill9210 3 ай бұрын
They never discuss the interstellar Large
@cliveruffle6016
@cliveruffle6016 3 ай бұрын
This is extremely intriguing, but accumulated research agrees the ice ages are the result of the Milankovich orbital cycles. However, it is possible the Milankovich changes may have started with this event, through orbital changes for Earth caused by the Solar System's exposure to open interstellar space.
@TheRotnflesh
@TheRotnflesh 3 ай бұрын
I like to think that our understanding of reality is subjective. Heinrich Cycles likely determine the severity of Ice Ages (geomagnetic excursions) and the rise/fall of our civilizations, and they are indeed cyclical around 6400 years, part of a larger grand cycle within the Precession of the Equinoxes at around 25,900 years. We are at the opposite side from the Younger Dryas within this cycle, and are likely entering another geomagnetic excursion.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
Yet we should add a bunch of Carbon Taxes, cut the numbers of people back to less than 2 billion then tax the remaining people until none of us can afford to exist then we will be gone and the climate will magically stabilize 😂😂😂.
@rogermaddocks6614
@rogermaddocks6614 3 ай бұрын
The Milankovich cycles are always in place but some additional change seems to make them bring on an ice age. It had been suggested that North America and South America becoming connected by Panama several million years ago blocked tropical ocean currents, bringing on our current cycle of ice ages. Plus cold water is now more trapped in the Arctic Ocean and the ocean around Antarctica due to the current position of the continents.
@iandennis7836
@iandennis7836 3 ай бұрын
​@@markmatt9174as long ss you're one of the ines "cut back" I have no problems with this plan.......denier😂
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
@iandennis7836 hum, well nothing I said is not science fact and shown facts on video going back decades . So keep your head in the sand More On and step into the boxcar for your own good.
@Winkkin
@Winkkin 3 ай бұрын
I'll bet it was our sun that left that debris
@jmanj3917
@jmanj3917 3 ай бұрын
0:01 Hey, Anton! 🙂
@acemanhomer1
@acemanhomer1 3 ай бұрын
right in the middle? that does sound worrying…sounds like…just like a bubble, or hurricane in sense of the eye….but the edges have STUFF, the center is…just space
@acemanhomer1
@acemanhomer1 3 ай бұрын
so like…if the hydrogen cloud is super cold…and it slammed into Earth, that would be like a shot from a mega cryo canister….mammoths frozen in seconds?…
@acemanhomer1
@acemanhomer1 3 ай бұрын
hydrogen bonding with oxygen in the atmosphere and producing water?…
@AH-wr1ir
@AH-wr1ir 3 ай бұрын
Anton, thank you for communicating these fascinating ideas and research so brilliantly.
@mpearce820
@mpearce820 3 ай бұрын
Your presentations are always mind bending. Thanks
@dmitryshusterman9494
@dmitryshusterman9494 3 ай бұрын
So what does it have to do with the aliens
@iancowan3527
@iancowan3527 3 ай бұрын
So the Heliosphere is the ending limit on the outward pushing effect of the Sun's solar winds... Which is being noted as offering protection by forcing objects, but we still get comets?😊
@foetaltreborus2017
@foetaltreborus2017 3 ай бұрын
Been thinking. ..precption of time is effected by speed..years ago I added together the known speeds we are doing - right now- how does this speed affect our precption of Time ..just a thought..
@douglaswilkinson5700
@douglaswilkinson5700 3 ай бұрын
Only at relativistic velocities. Our solar system is orbiting the galactic center at about 600,000 miles/hour which is less than 1% of light-speed.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 3 ай бұрын
Yep, Milkyway is moving towards Andromeda Galaxy at a speed 130km/second & Both galaxies are moving away from. Universal center at 600 Km/sec. Something stationary in our way is gonna be flattened 😂😂😂
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