What Happened to The Tremeloes?

[@neridarobinson5665]

Will always best one of the best! Love the harmonies.

[@pamstringer1342]

I am in the UK and the Tremeloes with Chesney Hawkes toured the UK last month. They even sang Silence is Golden! The show was in Leeds and there were many bands from the 60s. My friends and I relived our youth and enjoyed every minute of it!

[@Maldoror200]

💀..hang on, sloopy..long as you can, baby..!!!

[@pamstringer1342]

​@@Maldoror200 I never remember The Tremeloes singing this but remember the song as it's from my era! 🤔

[@wa1ufo]

I wish I had been there but I am across the Big Pond!

[@darrenlucas9017]

My Mums cousin was Allan Blakley, we had a great family, grew up with the Trems. Silence is Golden is my best hit for them. Miss Allan and now Dave has left us, RIP

[@billhungerford5930]

Allan always appeared to be a positive, happy guy. Was he really like that? (hope so)

[@darrenlucas9017]

@@billhungerford5930 yes he was, I loved going to see him at his house with the family, he was a very genuine guy. I was so upset when he past so young. I played with his 2 daughters we always had a great time.. he’s sadly missed, by a lot of people, sad to see Dave past as well…

[@josephfisher9427]

I love The Tremeloes they are underrated here my top 10 songs from Tremeloes 10 - Say O.K. 09 - Blue Suede Tie 08 - Here Comes My Baby 07 - My Little Lady 06 - Silence Is Golden 05 - Me and My Life 04 - Suddenly You Love Me 03 - Happy Song 02 - Hello World 01 - (Call Me) Number One

[@TonysMusic1974]

​@Anne Woodward you are seriously on drugs. That is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard.

[@markfettig2190]

Silence Is Golden was originally recorded by the 4 Seasons. It was the flip side of Rag Doll.

[@wa1ufo]

🌝

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

The Trems were a good band with strong material, but got kinda left behind by changing musical styles, and their younger fans went on to follow more progressive bands in the early 70's.

[@willieg7895]

Here comes my baby was their best tune in my opinion.

[@phineousfoghorn8459]

Written by Cat Stevens

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

@@phineousfoghorn8459 I have a cat called Steven.

[@francesfarmer736]

I agree,,,,my favorite music video from 1967, by The Tremelos it charted in the US and I remember it , I was 12 yrs old .

[@brucekilby9957]

They could have disappeared into their sideburns and never seen again.💸

[@marknewton6984]

The best one.

[@peterchecksfield9958]

Regarding The Beatles' Decca audition. I recently published a book on The Tremeloes ('The Tremeloes: Even The Bad Times Are Good!'), and I've interviewed surviving members extensively. Contrary to them only being signed because they lived close to London, there were very likely other factors too: (a) "The Tremilos", as they were simply called prior to being signed, were already recording for Decca in 1961 - at least as a vocal trio consisting of Brian Poole, Alan Blakley and Dave Munden, who sung on many sessions for others. (b) Another reason they were probably signed is because they were regularly appearing on the nationwide-broadcast BBC 'Saturday Club' throughout 1961, despite not being signed to a label. This was before The Beatles had even appeared on a local radio show of course. (c) Additionnally, Brian Poole swears today that their audition was sometime in late 1961, and definitely NOT on New Year's Day 1962. Here's what he told me recently: “This was sometime in 1961, not, as it says in lots of books, New Year’s Day, when The Beatles did their audition for Decca. I think we had been in Decca before, so this doesn’t stick in my memory much. We played all our Rock and Roll songs plus some vocal harmony songs, don’t know which ones, but mostly loud and fast. Lots of bands came to these auditions, and we and The Beatles were only two of them, but it essentially came down to us or them.”

[@robbdavis9889]

Hey Peter, Just wanted to say that I've been dipping in and out of your book and it's fantastic! I'm married to Rick's granddaughter, and I hear a lot of stories from his time in the band as well as stories from my in laws and wife. But from reading your book there's a lot of detail and projects they had that my wife didn't know about! Anyway, I hope to finish the book soon but just wanted to say that it's been a great read so far and I'd love to pick your brain a bit more!

[@davidjohnson9151]

I sat next the Tremeloes in June 1967 at a concert in London's Saville Theatre. Headlining were Cream and the Jeff Beck Group with its new singer Rod Stewart. The Trems arrived late and sat in the aisle next to our seats in the balcony. The London scene was like that then: groups coming to see other groups.

[@michaelcox1493]

Silence is golden was a better song. The harmony in the vocals is really good.

[@wa1ufo]

It was very well done as was the Four Seasons version as well.

[@Odo55]

Dreamy Tremeloes. What an era of true musicians with great harmonies. Great Britain gifted the world with this era of so many beautiful songs 💖

[@LawrenceHenson]

I worked at a Daimler/Jaguar agents in Egham in the 60s/70s, Chip Hawkes purchased vehicle from the company(as did Tom Jones & Engelbart Humperdinck) & I remember him bringing Chesney along with him, as a baby!

[@bobwallace9814]

When they were a thing in the sixties, they had a lot of transistor radio airplay. I was still in elementary school then and always thought they were a California band. They sure sounded like one. Their biggest goof up was not recording Yellow River as their own. Instead they tried the psychedelic avenue that didn't pan out.

[@paulkavanaghk]

They were the first to record Yellow River but didn't release it as a single, Christie used their backing track which went to number one the Trems missed out on that one!

[@inverross9019]

Indeed a big goof. Christie's number one was the Tremeloes.. only with a lead vocal by Jeff Christie, but his later put together band were named on it. So due to the Tremeloes initial "we are now serious rockers" pride, they lost the credit on a number one mega hit, after wanting to dissociate themselves with the poppy song. They did reclaim the song, but it was too late - as their name never went on the label of Christie's version. Yet, they later recorded songs that were more inane and poppy than 'yellow river'. A bad call!

[@bonkeydollocks1879]

​@@inverross9019great info

[@carlomiller1984]

"Silence is Golden" was the first of the Tremeloes songs I heard and really liked in 1964? I think was the year. I was 10 years old. And the only other of the Tremeloes songs I was aware of and really liked was "Here Comes My Baby." I'm from the USA so we here in the USA might not have heard a lot of the Tremeloes songs on top 40 AM radio.

[@glenearl9506]

4 Seasons

[@John_Fugazzi]

It wasn't uncommon for groups big in Britain to have only a couple hist in the U.S. "Here Comes My Baby" (April '67) and "Silence Is Golden" (Summer '67) were their only top 20's in America.

[@glenearl9506]

@@John_Fugazzi I know that

[@kathyrhode6252]

I loved so many of their records, Words is my top favourite

[@derekstocker6661]

Excellent history of a band from my youth. Would have been even better if segments of tracks could have been played as part of this but presumably copyright issues may have caused problems.

[@MarliRadke]

Amo tremeloes e muitas bandas desta época marcaram a minha juventude 😊 aqui no Brasil fizeram muito sucesso até hoje escuto e graças ao you tube posso velos e saber da história de todos de cada banda inclusive eles ❤😊

[@stephenbastasch7893]

Great informative retrospective - low-key, detailed and respectful. Thank you.

[@whathappenedtothem_]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stephenbastasch7893]

@@whathappenedtothem_ It was indeed! :)

[@TimothyWiley-r2b]

... silence is golden is my favorite but the bass line in there goes my baby is a classic bass of sixties music 🎵

[@stubaker2574]

Hey they were very well liked during the 60's and AM radio top40 they seemed to have songs pretty regular..harmony and more "pop-ish" than older listener's maybe was turning toward a new wave of different style's and new bands hitting the air waves but I liked their stuff and still do..Im that old...it was groovy

[@andrewarthurmatthews6685]

So good to see the pirate offshore radio station Radio Northsea International get a mention.

[@shippy555]

What about "(call Me) Number One" from 1969? It made number 2 (ironically!) in the UK charts.

[@Kloyd-nj3jj]

Presenter fail. How he misses call me Number One is poor.

[@TimothyWiley-r2b]

.. people forget "yellow river" in the early seventies... great song...

[@drummerboy1390]

That’s an interesting one. Yellow River was written by Jeff Christie who gave it to the Tremeloes. They recorded it, but weren’t happy with it and they never released it. Christie’s producer took the vocals off the Tremeloes recording and replaced them with Jeff Christie’s and Christie had a huge hit with it.

[@chrishilton1490]

Chip was the Trems, he also married one of the beautiful girls in the time. Carol was what we young last used to tune into Golden shot.❤

[@stevev238]

They've never been away. Still performing.

[@fredmcveigh9877]

The Tremeloes were very successful when Brien Poole left .

[@steveludwig4200]

Never heard of them (back then) and I followed rock music from 1963 until 1992. I do remember Silence is Golden and There Goes My Baby.

[@johnnyx9892]

Passing up the Beatles for these guys? Yeah that has to be one of the greatest F ups of all time.

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

7:55 Mick Avery was the Kinks’ drummer. He was never in the Hollies. Bobby Elliot was the Hollies’ drummer.

[@fernleystephens2436]

I was going to say the same thing, you beat me to it.

[@nickforemanreal]

Yep me too

[@billmagowan1492]

@@nickforemanreal and me, this guy really needs to sort himself out!!

[@normanpearson8753]

He was in the Stones , very early on ???

[@billmagowan1492]

@@normanpearson8753 around 1963 he did 2 rehearsals with a group of musicians who became the stones tho mick jagger doesn’t remember him, maybe MJ wasn’t a member of that group then….I’ve read Keith Richards autobiography and he makes no mention of MA either

[@davidpeters6536]

One of these guys went back to work for his family's Estate & Letting Agency in north London and I lived in one of the houses they managed in 1979-81. Nobody wrote the music or lyrics so they were destined to fail.

[@mjones4083]

Call me number one is the one I liked the most .Such a great late-sixties vibe .

[@andrefalconer6537]

Just Watched this short Documentary, It was Brian Pool & the Tremolows as i remember them by, Did they ever have a No1.? , Just been playing "Call me No 1" I'd forgotten about that single I still have it amongst other's from those Times, & Good Times aswell, Sad to hear a Couple of members have past away, They were a good band in there Times. God Bless Them all ,

[@OutRAjious]

they were a lot of bands who practiced that multipart harmony singing that sort of faded out …

[@melbjohn]

I'm surprised you didn't mentioned the fact that in 1970(?) they decided they wanted to become heavier and rather than try to bring their old fans with them, they decided the best strategy was to publicly describe their existing fans as "morons". That didn't do them any favours and their fall from popularity in the UK largely coincided with this misstep..

[@peterchecksfield9958]

They never called their fans morons - it was actually "Silly suckers!". One of those urban myths that aren't true.

[@melbjohn]

@@peterchecksfield9958I'm not sure that calling their fans "suckers" is much better but I'll take your word for it.

[@peterchecksfield9958]

@@melbjohn That's true. I have the full article, from 'Melody Maker', 3rd October 1970 (and the letters page two weeks later was very lively!). Incidentally, I recently published a book on the band ('The Tremeloes: Even The Bad Times Are Good!'), interviewing most surviving members. As well as many other things, it throws more light on probably why they got signed to Decca instead of The Beatles.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Actually tye Tremeloes make pretty good, fun and holsom music. I aoso love their song Hello Workd.

[@asacarrick1385]

They were part of a special time in British pop rock band music. Nothing they did really stood out as being particularly distinctive, but it was pleasant listening. Freddie and the Dreamers some Hermant Hermits, that's about the level I'd put them at. But they made a living at it and good luck to them for that

[@johnwoody9505]

Their live performances were so much better than the two bands you compare them to!!

[@raymondbonington9355]

Dagenham barking lads .

[@jamesmilton8765]

They were local to the East End and played venues there as early as 1960. West lived close by, but the original lead guitarist was someone else, Rick Scott, I believe. An excellent band.

[@terryf5131]

Hey..these are great vids... keep them coming.... really appreciate them! 👍

[@whathappenedtothem_]

Glad you like them!

[@darganx]

Feel sorry for that band from Liverpool, came all the way to London to get turned down. What happened to them? I hope they gave it another shot

[@normanpearson8753]

They made a living .Highlight of their career was playing Huddersfield A.B.C. , IN...1963 . It's said ...

[@darganx]

@@normanpearson8753 On further research I found out they done a few shows at some Butlin's around the country.. they even performed at the London Palladium once! But from late 1963 onwards information is hard to find..

[@johnballard6725]

Haha!

[@normanpearson8753]

@@darganx Hihi .On further research , indeed ! Actually , I'm old enough to remember the '63 Palladium gig , Lennon saying the ," If you're rich , don't clap , rattle your jewellery" gag .They were so..huge .. it's impossible to convey to the young how brilliant they were .Streets ahead of other bands , who were fantastic . Take care .

[@wa1ufo]

I am puzzled by the amplifier brand they were using early on in the Silence is Golden video. I asked a buddy of mine in London and he asked around but no joy. They were very nice looking and looked to be silver and or grey but I cannot read the label although it is visible. Having been a working musician myself I was just interested in this.

[@whathappenedtothem_]

Thanks for the info

[@jimsaco4334]

They should have released their version of Yellow River. Would have given them a chart hit in 1970 which could have catapulted them into the 70's.

[@moorlock2003]

As it was they never had a genuine hit in the ‘70s.

[@royjudson4380]

There last chart entry in the UK was words reaching number 91 ion 16-04-83.

[@LLcoolDel]

Words was a great cover. THEN SHE KISSED ME was a great cover also.

[@francesfarmer736]

Did they ever tour in the US? The only songs I recall were Here comes my baby & Silence is Golden and charted in the US.

[@markhunter8554]

What happened to them? The Beatles proved who Dick Rowe should have signed to Decca.

[@neilfranklin5036]

Great band

[@michellebell5092]

One of my favourite songs of all time is the B side of Even The Bad Times Are Good , Jenny’s Alright. So sad.

[@thelakeman5207]

These guys had some good hits. Rock Hall of Fame, maybe?

[@johncarlo7395]

I play myself in a 60s band and knew some of the tremeloes, there's quite a lot of wrong information there.

[@jameskinsey4182]

A really good band

[@TWayneD1020]

Thanks for the information !!

[@whathappenedtothem_]

You bet!

[@shariklein5883]

1968, I'm on a one year program in Israel. We lived for the radio, especially the Top 10 of the week on the station Waves of Tzahal, the army radio station. This incredibly catchy tune, "Here Comes My Baby" was so- WOW! Israel was then barely hanging on, with oppressors threatening another genocide on every side, we looked for respite wherever we could.

[@cynthiacupler8005]

I didn't know that,the song Silence is Golden,was first played by the 4seasons.

[@orlandosoto6080]

Silence is golden period 👍🏼

[@2011littlejohn1]

I saw these guys play in a hall above Burton's tailors shop in Uxbridge, Middlesex before they were famous.

[@daviddrew7851]

Played my High School /secondary school dance [ Robert Clack Tech -Dagenham ] once 1960 or 61 if that makes sense , certainly a straight forward sound probably too many covers not enough original work .

[@minkymott]

Another great video.

[@whathappenedtothem_]

Thanks again!

[@danielsturm809]

Decca A&R executive Mike Smith Decca Records turned down The Beatles for these guys, on January 1, 1962.Mike Smith of Decca Records turned down The Beatles

[@henriput854]

Thanks , the tremeloes great band , I love the voice of Dave fryer , big fan Henri put belgium 🇧🇪 cheers friend

[@marleneteixeira3071]

Obrigada pelas informações ...curti muito essa banda

[@lisasturgess7711]

Not completely true.. rick westwood still performs with tremeloes, chip no longer performs at present. The Trems continue to tour the UK and Germany even in 2023.

[@peterchecksfield9958]

Rick Westwood did his last show with the band in 2019, and is now retired.

[@davidsteel2217]

Always thought they were better than The Beatles. Just think what they might have achieved, had George Martin produced them.. The Beatles were very ordinary, without him.

[@MrConan89]

Sorry, but as a musician and singer for 60 years they rate a score below 5 to the Beatles 10. Chart success speaks for itself. I think Brian Poole ended up working in a butcher shop.

[@Catwallager]

Mick Avory was never a member of the Hollies.

[@stevev238]

No they didn't begin as Brian Poole and the Tremeloes!! Brian Poole only did a couple of songs with them. The overwhelming bulk of their work owes itself to Chip Hawkes (father of Chesney) as lead singer.

[@petergrattan3509]

a few factual errors.... i produced sky star search when chesney hawkes won.....

[@notsohandytim5090]

One of the only groups that could perform totally stoned and not screw up their presentation. 🥺

[@johnsurrey7426]

One thing that happened was that all four of them ‘enjoyed’ a particular young lady. I know that because her brother told me, and she confirmed it. Of course they weren’t the only band to indulge in such things. But still…

[@BrickUnit]

The Trems were actually the tremeloes for a number of years were they not? they split into two seperate bands when Chip and RIck rejoined

[@moemcgovern7345]

If you see Buddy on television, they're actually on The Arthur Murray Show. He was never on Bandstand. Arthur Murray taught ballroom dancing and music; but they would show Baby Boomers artists.

[@moemcgovern7345]

I myself was rather surprised to learn this about Arthur Murray.

[@peterchecksfield9958]

He wason Bandstand too, but the footage was wiped/lost.

[@docheine]

Another group I’m not familiar with. Need to check them out.

[@oldermusiclover]

read once that the late Roy O loved Brians voice also the lead singer for the Walker Brothers

[@salsageordie]

Carol Dillworth the Golden shot girl .Mother to Chesney .

[@msherer260]

Thing I loved about "Brian Poole and the Tremeloes" was they pissed off Dave Clark back when they both released "Do you Love Me' with Tremeloes beating them up the charts causing Dave Clark and Mike Smith to work on the finding a better song "Glad all Over" for the start of a real good run. Tremeloes were good but The Dave Clark Five (with Mike Smith) were great.

[@Tom-gv2eo]

Yes ! It was Autumn 1963 . Th Contours 'solid' original 'Do u love Me' didn't get much airplay here in UK but Decca quickly got Br Poole & th Tremeloes to record a cover. About th same time EMI ? took on new London grp Th D Clark 5 to do a slower but 'heavyer' version which, in my opinion sounded better, but was beaten into UK charts by B Poole + Trem s. I prefer Th Contours!

[@tylerthompson1842]

You made the right choice Decca the Beets or whatever their name is went nowhere

[@lennon1252]

They were a nothing group in the U.S. Only one hit, 'Silence is Golden' which was written by Bob Gaudio and Bob Crewe of The 4 Seasons, who used it as a B side for Rag Doll. (That's how much the seasons thought of that song). The Tremeloes went through too many personal changes to be considered a real group. Btw, The 4 Seasons version is far superior to the Tremeloes copycat version. Cause they didn't have Frankie Valli.

[@thegatesofdawn...1386]

They had great songs. They all look so much like each other! From the same English village. ❤

[@Tom-gv2eo]

Didn't know that! Where? I disticntly remember them on Top of Th Pops :😊 SomeoneSomeone - were great. But I heard later that S i G was 'Crewe -Gaudio' composition 4 Th 4 Seasons is th flip side of Rag Doll.

[@MartinMcMartin]

The Beatles changed music forever, the Tremeloes copied them and did mostly covers. I bet the Decca exec's were kicking themselves.

[@lesliebrett2182]

Mick Avery was a member of the Kinks.Leslie Malcolm Cyril Bishop Brett 🎵

[@mrskint55]

Mick Avery was the drummer with the kinks ,not the Hollies as you said.

[@jallan9578]

The voiceover could do with improving!

[@Tom-gv2eo]

Contiued : Silence is Golden - hit 1967.

[@kevinsimpson8686]

MICK AVORY was never The Hollies drummer that was always Bobby Elliott i believe. Mick was The Kinks drummer.

[@andrewarthurmatthews6685]

Mick Avory had been in the Kinks not the Hollies

[@lacca-acrossthelane]

Omg I hate 'em... they gave me a trauma ☠️

[@Maldoror200]

💀..REALLY Great work, man..!!!

[@whathappenedtothem_]

Thank you so much 😀

[@brentmacarthur6450]

Brian Poole and the Tremeloes--Peanuts

[@dianefiske-foy4717]

My favorite song by them is “Silence is Golden”.

[@precbass]

Mick Avory was never a member of the Hollies.He was the Kinks' drummer.

[@grahampratchett8207]

I do wish people who make these documentarys, check things so far I'm into 4 mins of this. And some of the photos used are definitely NOT THE BAND. There was one of 5 over weight people. This is an insult to the band. Please use people that know their subject

[@robertedward9456]

They did a free show in Barking town hall car park

[@bigtone1348]

I hated Someone someone, but played the b side until I wore it out.

[@amandabarrymore778]

In the UK they are kown as THe Trems with none of the originals/ I saw them they were good but not like the Originals!!

[@gusjackson3658]

They all died from terminal haircuts.

[@NicholasANappiNick]

Good move Decca

[@johnpritchard5410]

almost seems like satire...

[@67Stu]

Mick Avory played with Thew kinks; never with The Hollies. Can't find anything on Tomlin nor Pollack, and neither of them were with The Hollies either. 😒

[@hertstraveller]

The photo at 0.52 isn't the Tremeloes

[@poppyjons56874]

mick avory was never in the hollies its always been and only been bobby elliott and mick avory was the kinks drummer mmmm

[@Joe-bw2ew]

They became the Tomatoes 🍅🍅🍅🍅 🍅

[@Quiverbow1]

That narration must be Artificial Intelligence created, as no one speaks like that. That, and most of it is incorrect anyway.