What if the Nazis won World War 2?

This is yet another reboot, hope you guys like it. This video has absolutely no relation to Martin Luther King's day, just bad timing.
The link to the Knowing Better video • Out of Context: How to...
Nerdy nitpicks I will have to make.
1.Stalin's purge of the officry was 1937-1939, not just 1939.
2.Vichy France is given the whole of France after the war. This is so that the Germans don't have to hold down the populated areas of the north of France and so they can instead use them for the subjugation of the French colonies. The fear of a British Invasion would also diminish over time.
3.Israel would probably not exist due to the rampant Anti-Semitism that would exist in this world. Also, the world would never really know the true horror of the Holocaust until Nazi Germany would collapse-whenever that would be.
4.I'm not sure if Pakistan would be a Nazi or American ally.
5.Brazil, although a dictatorship, was American aligned during World War 2.

[@ivoryarchie]

Finally someone realizes that winning WW 2 and conquering the world are two different tasks.

[@MyUsersDark]

*Not in hoi4 lol*

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

@@MyUsersDark except for when it takes 2 years to move through canada :(

[@MyUsersDark]

@@ihatemotionblur_3255 That still applies to my thing tho

[@FelipeJaquez]

Its like vietnam, they won but as far as I know they aren't a super power

[@bradydavis5791]

@@FelipeJaquez No one won Vietnam. If you think Vietnam won you should really look into that history a lot better.

[@teethpuller8247]

FDR, 1943: All of Europe has fallen, but don't worry we got Iwo Jima

[@impitsar2332]

Is this a bokoen1 reference

[@larsk1161]

Lol I’ve seen that. It’s really funny

[@teethpuller8247]

@@impitsar2332 exactly

[@impitsar2332]

@@teethpuller8247 I knew it

[@ethpling165]

IWO JIIIIIIMAAAA

[@Ladondorf]

Can you make a video on "What if my dad never left?"

[@blockyorbits2376]

You would still be getting beat

[@dustinlyons759]

It’ll be okay.

[@zepperfox7669]

Hahaha my dog your killing it 😆😂👏👍

[@somesabatonfan180]

tell your mom to be communist and believe me comrad your dad will come back

[@sharkronical]

What if Karen let me keep the kids?

[@Wi11D]

Finally someone who didn’t remind everyone every 2 minutes “it is impossible for Germany to win WW2” so people won’t get mad at them

[@music79075]

Was it actually impossible for Germany to win WW2 or was Hitler just incompetent? Like if he had just held the line against the Communists in non Russian soil and just bombed the absolute shit out of the entire British isles he wouldn't even have to ight America right? France was already in his pocket and Italy was still on his side at that point.

[@tivvy2vs21]

I mean dday was a miracle, if that didn't happen who knows?

[@johnmachenzie1613]

@@tivvy2vs21 soviets would still win....

[@tivvy2vs21]

@@johnmachenzie1613 maybe, don't know as much on that front

[@danpike7980]

I think it's possible for Germany to defeat the Soviet Union, but "winning the war?" Nah. More likely there would be a cold war between the Axis powers and the remaining allies.

[@sdagoth3037]

I'm not surprised Hitler had a concept of "Noble Savages" since he read western novels written by Karl May that depicted Native Americans in a positive light when he was a kid.

[@bosphiii]

He did, actually. He abbreviated that term to the Turks

[@pierren___]

Hitler the Rousseauist

[@michaeldarrow7485]

@@bosphiii really

[@chompchompmaster2885]

@Louis van der Merwe he read*

[@mrmarmellow555]

@@chompchompmaster2885 YES 🔴🖍️⚒️👠SO🆘RED 💯😻⚒️😸😹

[@leiladekwatro3147]

"Hitler and the Radicals" would probably be a good punk rock band name

[@arnoldstallonereeves7469]

Green Day will be a flop if that band Exist

[@stuckonaslide]

I'd listen to it.

[@mpampislarsons]

hahahahahahaha

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Sabaton, but punk

[@urphakeandgey6308]

Modern "punk rock" is oddly safe and politically correct. It's not "punk" or "rebellious" at all. They picked a side and they stick to it for the most part like a bunch of conformists.

[@morganjalso473]

literally right when he was talking about how Hitler would have tried to kill all the Slavic people the video stopped, and I got an ad for "why I should date young Slavic women"

[@morganjalso473]

the timing

[@oitubeman1019]

@@morganjalso473 top ten most bruh moments in history.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

I’m gonna guess you’re not german because that would just be too much

[@b.8457]

that happens to me when i watch his videos about china

[@rohiths3554]

That's not true

[@amasure]

World War II was so crazy it's almost hard to believe it actually even happened like really the whole story of old war almost seems like a really crazy Fairy Tail

[@leeroy4958]

The trojan war was so long ago that it is passed down as a legend, maybe in the future this wars will do to. You can already see after 75 years that the lines between the good guys and the bad guys had blurred and will blur even more as all the veterans will die of old age, but mostly because the US has lost it's title of Paragon of Democracy. The next 20 years will be a very interesting period to live in.

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

that applies to all of history. One of the most defining battles in British history (which would lead to them conquering all of India) was the battle of plassey. They were outnumbered 1000 to 1, and won because of a smart commander and a mangrove

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

@@leeroy4958 hopefully there aren't any wars between India and China or USA and China

[@kitkat47chrysalis95]

hopefully you survive world war 3

[@MaggotDiggo1]

Really? We're still living in a geopolitical paradigm which was largely shaped by the Cold War and Second World War. With a coalition of liberal democracies on one side and (former) communist countries as their adversaries. We're not talking about the War of the Roses here.

[@antike9264]

What a good HOI4 mod

[@MrTohawk]

Kaiserreich is still better.

[@sneezeboi3011]

Antike Check out the TNO mod. Its still in The Works but its gonna better Than kaisereich, trust me.

[@darkx391]

Fatherland

[@byzantineempire4636]

TNO gang

[@benitomussolini3108]

fatherland mod, the guy making it is still working on it tho

[@emperor_msk]

1939: - I just went forward in time to see all the possible outcomes - how many there are? - 15 million - In how many does Germany win ww2? - One

[@therandomkidplayinggames6831]

good thing this universe didn't be that one

[@Pikasatupu75]

why

[@birbseesall1529]

@@Pikasatupu75 Germany couldn't have one. Or atleast their chances were so small as to be completley negligible.

[@hkl1459]

As an offensive, I find this bass player Not really, in any reasonable world, when all of britains continental allies surrendered and the population wanted peace, there should have been a peace. Literally the only reason britain did not make peace with Germany was #1 becouse Churchhill hid all the german peace offers from basically everyone in the UK #2 Churchhill was personally invested and was not acting reasonably at that moment. Britain had no capabilities to actually win the war at that point, their main goal of defending Poland had failed long ago and their main continental european ally (france) had just been crushed. If churchill is slightly reasonable or if anyone else gets elected Britain makes peace with Germany, which means no lend-lease etc to the USSR and the entire wehrmacht focuses on the USSR = the soviet economy collapses during 1941 (which it narrowly avoided due to western aid)

[@emperor_msk]

@@hkl1459 I mean France and Britain in 1939 did have better army than Germany... It's just the bad governing in both nations

[@wazzupsters]

This has been the most realistic "what if WWII" Timeline I've seen so far, you've talked about gains from spoils of war, the effects on both the USSR and the US, and how the US would act with Germany since the Dutchland isn't the Union and had compatible qualities. How British would fare in a post world war landscape, and how it would lose some and gain some. It's sad to hear how Original France would fade into obscurity while the Jews would face total eradication. The most unique thing is how the descendents would inevitably change the ideologies of Germany from a obsessive one into a somewhat progressive one where they have a softer leniency towards their serfs unlike their forbearers who wanted nothing but subjugation and eradication. Good work 👍

[@johnhansen2187]

There is no mention of how the Germans deported Jews to Palestine. Eichman as even honored by the Jews for providing funds to Jewish industries in Palestine. The British opposed the Jewish immigrations, and even sunk a couple of German ships carrying migrants before WW2.

[@darryldepner3790]

There's no mention of how the US lend lease policy might change nor how Roosevelt was seeking any way to get involved in the European Theatre. I have to believe that if Hitler didn't declare war on the US days after Pearl Harbor then Roosevelt would've set up a false flag. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I do know that Roosevelt was bending any rule he could to get the US more involved in the European War. I've just discovered this youtuber and I hope this is the last video of his I watch. He seems to ignore certain things at his will (mentioning Nuclear Weapons used by the US, Germany, and the USSR then dropping it?!) because it becomes too hard. I"m not saying I could do better but I am not putting out multiple videos myself

[@jackstoltz330]

@@jmw1500When someone doesn’t understand something they claim it’s the jews, so pathetic. Progressivism actually just comes with wealth and comfort on a large scale, as is seen in every nation upon approaching high income.

[@zfloyd1627]

Some Jews would survive, mainly those in America.

[@petros8478]

If your a christian you need to repent of your sins PLZ

[@Autconscipatheonive]

What IF Julius Caesar Survived being assassinated?

[@justinpachi3707]

He invaded Parthia and Annexes Mesopotamia. The Romans don’t have the logistics to conquer more. He might set out client states and Caesar would be very old. His health would have started to fail. He would groom Octavian into his heir and the empire might develop over time peacefully into a centralized empire. Of course Antony might stir up trouble and Augustus would probably assassinate Caesarian just to be sure. He might use Caesarion as propaganda in the Senate as a foreign king looking to carve Rome into his own kingdom and subject it to its “could Nilotic rites” (from HBO show Rome). Augustus would beat him with his badass buddy Agrippa and annex Egypt. If a Trajan comes along in the future he might invade Persia and take more land, or take all of Germany. Germanicus was very close zero doing so.

[@myohmy9000]

Justin Pachi Caesarion would probably be used to justify Rome’s legitimacy over Egypt, but I agree, Ceasarion would be a huge threat to Octavian’s legitimacy, and Caesarion would be no joke due to being raised by two of the smartest leaders in history. On the other hand Rome had very little interest in conquering Germany, as it had no recourses that would benefit them. If Rome were to conquer Germany, it would be very underdeveloped and unguarded, more so the Britannia, and would be subjected to raids from Slavic and Scandinavian groups or guerrilla warfare by native Germans. Persia would also be very hard to control, due to its mountainous terrain and the fact that Persians already had a deep history and culture.

[@darthmortus5702]

I think ironically the republic might survive. Caesar was ambitious and would probably rule until death as dictator but remember in Rome a dictator was expected to relinquish power back to the senate. I don't think he'd groom an heir, at least not one to rule as dictator/emperor. He would implement massive changes to curb the power of the oligarchs making the senate more plebian in nature. But not entirely so, he did believe that they deserved to be helped but that the distinguished should still be in charge, so while I don't see a monarchy arising there would be authoritarianism. Ultimately this would be good for the health of the republic which was corrupt as hell by the end. As for conquests, if any, he'd take Mesopotamia from Parthia to avenge his colleague Crassus. Knowing his boundless opportunism he would probably set up some client states too in the Caucasus and maybe Arabia while in the region. Small bits of Germany may be taken, especially if a disaster like the one under Augustus happened and he felt his and the honor of Rome itself was diminished. After him Persia beckons as the final frontier of Rome, well Rome proper anyway colonial ambitions may arise in time. all of Arabia would probably be taken in time and from there Rome would slowly expand in all directions at a leisurely pace while its core lands are safe.

[@andreimorar5249]

Probably Dacia would have been invaded much earlier, since Caesar had plans to conquer it (king Burebista of the dacians supported Pompeii in the Roman civil war, and thus Ceasar wanted to give them a lesson).

[@sueb7496]

yes good topic OK!

[@kickofftheboot]

Laughed at : Martial Asshole Aristocrat Class One thing missing, what becomes of Italy and Mussolini in this alternate universe?

[@chadmearhoff9086]

Mussolini takes over Germany after they balkanize and fall into civil war

[@williamm1014]

Lmao

[@TheSlasherJunkie]

There’s -an interesting one, I can’t remember if it’s MonsieurZ or AltHistoryHub, where fascist Europe has a revival of the Protestant Wars, with the Catholics on one side and the Nordic and Slavic nations on the other. When you have Spain, Italy, and France on one side, you’re pretty much SOL. The entire War of Spanish Succession was about preventing an alliance like this to exist in the first place.

[@sircoloniser5454]

He is still hitlers bitch

[@aristocraticrebel]

Better than being a bunch of pathetic last men who just want to be comfortable.

[@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother]

“my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m a minor you tuber” damn that’s cold

[@lightningbolt4419]

🤬

[@jorixonian]

he also said in another video "i have a youtube channel so my opinion is demonstrably better than yours" so now I don't know what to believe

[@genalynnesanjuan5788]

@Kāne viewer < small youtuber < big youtuber < The KZbin Overlord Susan < Google

[@iranianintelligenceagency9337]

@@genalynnesanjuan5788 < me BWAHAHAHAH

[@austinbosh7402]

3:32 Wait, is this true? Are there any credible sources that say this? During all my WW2 research I've *ALWAYS* heard that the German's needed to take the Caucasus oil from the Soviets because they didn't have enough oil to field massive amounts of motorized infantry and they would need it to field more aircraft and tanks on the eastern front. Still, I wouldn't call this bad stragery on Hitler's part, if he could still at least cut the Soviet's off of their oil he would still benefit.

[@smantheman2312]

bump

[@prashantaryan3477]

Austin Bosh bad thing was he ordered them to invade early....leaving the 6th army alone to take Stalingrad

[@cityman2312]

Yes, and cutting the Red Army off from their main fuel supply would have been a lot easier than trying to capture the oil fields intact (the Red Army would have sabotaged them if they had to retreat).

[@OkurkaBinLadin]

No, it is not. "Synthetic oil" covered only 50% of army needs, army itself was consuming half of all oil in occupied Europe. Make the math. Already by december of 1941 (one year before Stalingrad), Opel had to stop its production of "blitz" army trucks as it didnt have enough fas to even test fuel pumps. Author is wrong on this topic and severely underestimates HOW MUCH fossil fuels matter in military-industrial complex.

[@aerohydra3849]

@@prashantaryan3477 The Germans sent their army into the region earlier than planned because the Red Army was disorganized and unprepared at the time, and didn't want to give them room to regroup (they were expecting a push towards Moscow, so the southern front was underdefended). It was either methodically advance and let the Soviets regroup and possibly reinforce the lines, or push the pedal to the metal and push them as far as they could. They chose the latter since they realized they needed a decisive victory- every year the war dragged on the Soviet's industrial capacity would outpace the Germans and they could afford to send more and more equipment and men to the front lines. The Germans knew a war of attrition was suicide and that's why they constantly hoped for a quick death blow like in the Ardennes. Unfortunately for them, it never came.

[@ivankrivyakov5250]

"Russian move their capital to Kazan": in fact the actual contingency plan was to move the capital to the city of Kuybyshev (cooy-bee-shef), currently named Samara. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin%27s_bunker

[@ihatemotionblur_3255]

should've moved to kara khorum

[@ivankrivyakov5250]

@Jotaro97 Historical studies usually refer to settlements by their names at the time of the events described, trying to avoid discussion of which name is "correct". E.g. "Kaliningrad was the capital of East Prussia" and "Koenigsberg is the westernmost large city of the Russian Federation" would be equally bad descriptions :)

[@aoki6332]

@@ivankrivyakov5250 yeah pretty much like Istanbul which really only mean to the city in Turkish the name really becoming a issue in the 1920's when Turkey was Nationalizing itself the city having a lot of different name depending to cultural view greek still calling it Constantinople and some turc calling it Kostantiniyye

[@JamesLPlummer]

The only reason Vietnam went communist in our timeline was to ally itself with the USSR and PRC in their fight for independence. With the former crippled and the latter not existing, there's no reason why Vietnam would be communist. If anything they would turn to the nazis for support.

[@benelmen6051]

The Japanese would have conquered most of Asia so the Vietnamese would be to busy fighting or joining the Japanese to be worrying about communism or Nazi's.

[@DTD110865]

@@benelmen6051 The communist threat in Indochina actually predated the Japanese takeover. Too many people refuse to recognize that the Viet Quoc fought for independence from France when Ho Chi Minh was still in the French Communist Party, and that the Viet Minh waged war against them before Tokyo took control.

[@ilikepiedontu]

It’s because our presidents changed and the people in the nation didn’t want war. Once the troops pulled out, 2 years later the opposition won and communism took over.

[@DTD110865]

@@ilikepiedontu True, but the consequences of giving up turned out to be more severe that we imagined. America was right about Vietnam all along, even if the communist takeover didn't go according to the Domino Theory.

[@mvm1162]

The MAIN and MOST IMPORTANT reason why Vietnam turned to the USSR was because the USA basically SOLD OUT the Vietnamese. Instead of sticking to it's own ideals, the US Government choose to forget what it is supposed to stand for and go for the short-term solution. And the Vietminh, which had been a ally of the US during WW2 and it's fight against the Japanese was sold out by the US. After WW2 France simply wanted Vietnam back as their colony and the US, wanting France as an ally in Europe, started helping the French, even supplying transport ships for French troops to get to 'French Indo-China'. So, the VietMin, which really wanted national independence, started a war against the French occupiers with help from China the USSR whereas France was supported by the USA. The French were defeated and left as soon as they understood they could not win. This, of course, was just after the Korean War stalemate which had the US solidly locked into the Cold War and saw no other option than support their puppet 'democratíc' South Vietnamese ally. With led to the long protracted war which the US government insiders new they could not win and but still, persisted in far longer than they should have.

[@garth5239]

The explanation was rather over complicated, it would have been a lot faster if you just said the clear and obvious fact that the Germans could have easily won if the used 40 width tank divisions instead of the 20 widths they were using.

[@KyleOber]

source?

[@angelodecock6280]

@@KyleOber It's a HOI4 related joke if I'm not mistaken, no need to take it seriously

[@joshelguapo5563]

🤣

[@dongately2817]

Or go all in on researching synthetic oil, submarines, CAS, and naval bombers in the 30s and then wait til 1941 unleash them on the Allies - Stalin will always go for Poland with historical AI in 1940.

[@666flic]

Until the next patch!

[@Свободадляроссии]

"The Russians would not stand to have genocidal maniacs in control of much of their homeland" They did in our timeline, for decades.

[@Hitman-889]

@@Osgfkqgvsu Stalin was Georgian, and Khruschev was Ukrainian.

[@yourmama3515]

@@Hitman-889 Well those 2 countries were part of the Russian Empire & only gained independence 30 years ago

[@giorgiocecchini9742]

yeah the tsar, who was rightfully killed

[@projektkobra2247]

@@giorgiocecchini9742 -Youre being sarcastic?..Or a POS?..Yeah...murdering children is SO righteous.

[@wolfpacksix]

Yeah, I mean there was a genocidal famine that doesn't seem to get a whole lot of press...

[@mojom.9221]

About the Jews in this Scenario , I think the "Madagaskar-Plan " = shipping all Jew to French-Madagaskar-Colonie could also be possible, without the Naval Threat of GB and USA.

[@RemiBoyz]

Send em to space

[@armzngunz]

Except they couldn't because they were at war, by the time Germany would have won the war, the ifnal solution was already in effect, so why bother digging up their old madagaskar plan when they had already constructed the camps?

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodpl9761]

Why do people act like madagascar had no native population? I doubt they'd be ok with jews being forced onto them also Madagascar was a french only and as history showed germany got its ass kicked trying to go near it.

[@Reznor1974]

@@armzngunz Because they intended the camps to be manufactoring plants? Because the deal that was struck (The Haavara Agreement) had the Jews keeping their possessions and wealth at the cost of working in the camps until the end of the war, when they would they would get a ship to Madagascar.

[@armzngunz]

@@Reznor1974 No, people were being killed inside and outside the camps before "bombings of supply lines", there were always horrible conditions. Sources for the red cross please? The allies aren't responsible for taking in refugees illegaly deported from Germany, nor did the allies forcefully deport jews to Palestine. What about the natives of Madagascar? How would millions of jews survive in a hostile jungle?

[@markant9534]

This would make one hell of a movie.

[@VictorSanchez-pk1iv]

Think a series would be better

[@gorgon6680]

It would be a horror movie.

[@markant9534]

@@gorgon6680 It certainly would.

[@markant9534]

@@craftmania_0 Fascism would`ve meant the end for black people.

[@markant9534]

@@craftmania_0 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXPPoZZ-hLdjjqc

[@MP-no8yy]

Australia exists and soes much of the fighting against the japanese for most of 1941 and 1942 Whatifalthist: Americans fight the Japanese alone

[@megladongaming3797]

Yeh iv noticed a patriotic approach when he makes these vids which is allowed but to the point of deafening out any outside help makes him sound narrow minded.

[@Tsunami0950]

The Australians really didn’t so much in an overall scale. Besides Indonesia and Australia, they barely faught in the Pacific.

[@MP-no8yy]

@@Tsunami0950 until early 1943 95% of all troops in the south pacific were Australians.

[@Tsunami0950]

@@MP-no8yy And what did they accomplish? On the grand scheme? Nothing.

[@MP-no8yy]

@@Tsunami0950 the first Japanese defeat at Milne Bay and pushing the Japanese back all before the Americans even got into the fight

[@daltonmiller5590]

Why must he talk like the Burger King Foot Lettuce Guy?

[@redapple631]

He does the same little down turn in his voice at the end of every sentence..ah

[@samwrai]

Because they are the same.

[@miket1585]

I’m thinking more big gay al... lol. Still greatly put together.

[@devinpeirce7152]

Dalton Miller oh Mary don't ask

[@A_B_1917]

Why must you whine?

[@realrawmcgraw8512]

10:33 "the Russians would not stand to have genocidal maniacs in control of much of their homeland" Should be a correction there. The Russians would not stand to have foreign* genocidal maniacs, local ones are fine (cough) Stalin (cough) Also, love how you pronounced "Archangel" as Arch-Angle lol

[@sciolist3109]

Arch Angel, Ark- angel, both are technically wrong. The "correct" way is the ugliest sounding name ever, 'ar - khan- guels'.....

[@oskarnymand389]

Stalin didn't commit genocide

[@aisel1483]

Well not genocide your correct but he did have mass killings of people that were rebellious

[@almostanarchybro9129]

@@oskarnymand389 (cough) holodomar (cough)

[@TheRentown]

Stalin is Georgian, although at the time of his birth Georgia was apart of the Russian empire.

[@ribspice1238]

0:46 says the comment section will be horrible Me: immediately scrolls to comments

[@ladosdominik1506]

Same man, same

[@roflmywaffles1313]

7:16 look a smiling clown

[@timhardy676]

Lolol

[@nikwoodworth5606]

I saw that too. Somebody has to edit that and make it look legit like a clown

[@aeros2187]

I already saw it before reading this

[@realpolitics527]

God damn

[@el1tefire252]

Rofl My Waffles it gots the Peter chin

[@thraciandude]

Thanks KZbin, for recommending this to me on New Year's eve in Germany.

[@imcloud305]

You're not allowed to talk about hitler in Germany Cuz law n stuff

[@MyUsersDark]

@@imcloud305 You sure?

[@imcloud305]

@@MyUsersDark yes If you held the nazi falg then you would mostly likely to be behind the bars

[@thescarecrow897]

@@imcloud305 theres unironic nazis in germany bro wdym

[@imcloud305]

@@thescarecrow897 they gotta do it in disguise just like the kkk in usa

[@The_Custos]

Thinks Aryan "Nazis" couldn't make allies because of racism. They had allies, non-Aryan allies, you acknowledged they had allies, and thought others may flip to their side. Get your thinking straight!

[@dansmith1661]

No Islamic terrorism since we would let them have their own countries and not murder their children for Israel.

[@stafverstegen2408]

The Germans only allied non-aryans like the Japanese, because they had the same enemies. They didn't realy cooperate or anything, and it's unlikly that they would have had much allies like America had during the Cold War.

[@stafverstegen2408]

@@counc Indeed, but they only allowed them in the war because they were realy needed.

[@jockular123]

@@stafverstegen2408 On winning the war the nazis would have then turned on those non aryan allies. Remember the night of the long knives

[@stafverstegen2408]

@@christiandauz3742 It horrified SOME nazi's, such as Von Falkenhausen, but others, like Hitler, barely cared.

[@machtundehrexiv2600]

In this alternate timeline, would Anne Frank still invent the ball point pen?

[@finallimoride4621]

Yes, but nobody would ever know. lol

[@machtundehrexiv2600]

@@finallimoride4621, good answer.

[@angryalaskin2479]

NO BECAUSE THERE IN ZE ATTIC

[@machtundehrexiv2600]

@@angryalaskin2479, they can come out now. The typhus is gone.

[@boredfartless4221]

Frankly no she wouldn't, living in a loft she would invent the dust buster instead

[@plok742]

easily one of the most interesting perspectives I've seen on this topic, accounts for a lot of things most other channels seem afraid to go either for contemporary reasons or for sparking outrage by nazi lovers/armchair generals/soviet lovers among others

[@hardlineamerican8495]

What if Sigismund III was able to keep control of Sweden and later form the Polish-Lithuanian-Swedish-Commonwealth?

[@isakpalsson9012]

YE PLEASE

[@sartainja]

The U.S. had “the bomb” first so the Big H was not going to frack with Uncle Sam. Superb presentation and thought process of the entire process.

[@aymericdeascalon4590]

The US had the bomb first because of multiple captured Nazi scientists. If Britain was out and the US and Germany didn't go to war against each other, those same scientists would have given Germany nukes first.

[@zoomunzoom5893]

Germany likely would as well. The US created that program via a spy network into Germany. The real reality is this, Germany would have had the bomb years before anyone else in this scenario. They planned to target large population centers to bring a country to surrender on Nazi terms (sound familiar).

[@youtubeemperor4422]

Do What If Sweden and The Netherlands kept their New World Colonies

[@GalacticBricks]

New York City would be New Amsterdam

[@youtubeemperor4422]

Yes but would Britain take the rest of America or just Sweden and the Dutch, and if they did took it, would The United States still exist or be as powerful?

[@maciek_k.cichon]

Yeah and add up smaller colony states, like Polish Courland, Denmark, Habsburg Empire and others

[@stooge_mobile]

The Dutch done fucked up by not moving a bit more south and securing Australia. This from an Australian.

[@michaelritzen8138]

@@stooge_mobile We are smart enough, to not settle a big ass island with animals and plants ready to kill a man. Sincerely a Nederlander (Dutchman)

[@Martin-gd7vy]

"The Nazis were just so evil" or maybe history is just written by the winners and if the Nazis won, we would have been saying "the allies were just so evil", because after all, America, Britain and USSR did many terrible things, but it's okay when they do it because they won

[@blockmaster156]

The Nazis killed 12 million innocent people 6 million of them being Jews. Making a dumb claim just for the sake of being different shows your low intelligence.

[@mrlegkick91]

​@Block Master that number you state is dubious at best and even if true pretty sure the allies killed more....

[@schizoposting]

@@blockmaster156 No no 50 million jews were killed in the holocaust and if you say it was even one less than that you're an anti-semitic neo nazi grrrrr!!!!!

[@zoomunzoom5893]

True. The early concentration camps were reported by the Soviets as well. It wouldn’t surprise me if Stalin had ordered killings and then blamed it on the Nazis. He depended on western aid

[@richardroberson2564]

tHeY ShOUlD HAve TaKEN MOScow to WiN tHE WAr.

[@hatefulgaming1800]

Richard Roberson They took more then Moscow and that wasn't the only divergence.

[@sorsocksfake]

They'd have had firewood... then what? Moscow would be a loss, but Stalin already had plans for that case. He wouldn't surrender just because he lost a major city, and while Moscow held some logistic value, it wasn't crucial to the war effort. Both Hitler and Stalin seemed to have understood that it wasn't Moscow that mattered, but Stalingrad, which was the key to the strategic resources.

[@ethangoldentuler64]

Even if they took Moscow it wouldn't change the outcome, napoleon did the same thing and even took Moscow and the results were the same

[@hazzmati]

In times of Stalin Moscow was the hearth of the Soviet-Union. Capturing it would have been a critical blow unlike napoleonic era Moscow

[@richardroberson2564]

@@hatefulgaming1800 I wasn't mocking the video.

[@robjohnston1433]

Just as I always say: "Professor, what lessons do we learn from History?" "Well Virginia, we only learn two things from History: 1. We never learn from History 2. Don't march on Moscow with Winter coming."

[@perciblejames268]

what if Oswald Mosley became pm?

[@SgtSteel1]

Interesting thought.

[@johnnyjakesman8305]

The Scotsman very interesting. Had Hitler not risen to power that would be a real possibility and maybe the UK could have been the bad guys.

[@tynanroyhiggins]

@@kieran40k89 Nice Hearts of Iron playlist you got there m8, tell me more lol. Keep playing your cute games babe, just like the Jews want you to.

[@fnchrstphr]

It's an interesting question. What a shame the thread was taken over by neo nazis

[@tynanroyhiggins]

fnchrstphr What a shame you're completely oblivious to the fact that we're all fucked, because everyone keeps blaming 'much evil Nazis'.

[@shanesaxon6863]

Well…..we wouldn’t have any homeless, asylums, or drug addicts

[@maxhess3151]

I want to see the Japanese version of this scenario.

[@oitubeman1019]

he already made the timeline

[@Itgetsbetterofficial]

10:30 "The russians would not stand to have genocidal maniacs in control of much of their homeland" *LAUGHS IN HOLODOMOR*

[@musaabahmed3431]

@Metsarebuff 22 laughs in*

[@inquisitorkrieger8171]

*Also laughs in Katyn forest*

[@Contrarian-C]

Holodomor wasn't intentional, you think Stalin controls the rain and the food? No, he doesn't

[@musaabahmed3431]

@@Contrarian-C okay, Putin

[@Ryan_Archmjr242]

Metsarebuff 22 laughs in bullshit

[@martinquinn9007]

Had to stop watching as his voice gets on my nerves

[@EatChipsNow]

martin quinn It’s very feminine, isn’t it?

[@hbsblkk3842]

Moscowwwwww

[@rhaivaen]

He continuesly butchers a lot of words...

[@Schumanized]

Sounds like a basic girl ordering a "latteeeee" 🙄

[@Blaas123]

He sounds way to cocky and you get the feeling and by reading facts. He is not knowing what he he is talking about. He just played a lot of HOI4 and suddenly he is an expert.

[@benitomussolini3108]

boiling the entire third position into "muh razisum and enslave da world" I was hoping that third positionist philosophy and economics would play a role in the Cold War scenario i guess not. nice strawmans btw if you're smart you might be able to succeed in agriculture.

[@benitomussolini3108]

+Marshall Plane the entire history of mankind is war and slaughter, you would be hardpressed to find a civilization, political ideology, or a group of people worth their ink in the history books that didn't kill or conquer. Denouncing an entire philosophy because they killed people is weak and frankly a feminine argument. should democracy and the representative Republic model be discredited for manifest destiny, and its near constant wars and corrupt finance capitalism? should the achievements of Rome and the empires of antiquity be also discredited since they too where built on killing and Conquest?

[@benitomussolini3108]

where exactly does Hitler say he wanted to "enslave and conquer the world" his books? notes from his staff? Any frist hand accounts even? The whole narrative is retarded in the literal sense, "I think the Nazis are going to conquer and enslave everyone that isn't 100% pure Bavarian phenotype because I saw it in a movie and I played a video game that confirmed it"

[@benitomussolini3108]

+Benito Mussolini economic, cultural, political factors of Nazism and third positionism as a whole? why read a book when I could just fill it with everything I don't like.

[@armzngunz]

@@benitomussolini3108 You literally have no idea what Generalplan Ost was, do you? Define to me why the Reichskommissariats were set up, what their purposes were, and what their relation to the Reichsgau was. You probably never heard Himmler's speech about genociding the jews either, unless you see that as "propaganda". I guess you wouldn't mind if the nazis came into power now and killed your entire family, because "Well the romans killed people aswell!"

[@cheezycrackers8677]

"Generalplan Ost" is literally post war Soviet propoganda. It is complete nonsense that never appeared in contemporary German documentation.

[@georgetorrence]

Surprisingly well researched and minimally political. Damn near as objective as you can expect on current KZbin. Subscribed.

[@dominikpandur5131]

This was the way it should have went.

[@___E]

-🤡

[@aidenhillis7849]

Exactly.

[@nstice1]

I really liked this a lot!!! Bravo! One of the best if not the best Nazi alt scenario I have ever watched on KZbin.

[@ZogJhones]

"Russians would not tolerate genocidal maniacs in control of their homeland" Stalin???

[@icyguy2547]

Everything in this video is wrong. From your faulty understanding of National Socialism, "racism", the Soviet Union, WW2, the U.S. and Asia, to the scenario itself, you are dead wrong about everything in this video. Please, find a historical source that isn't American propaganda, and then you’ll have potential as an alternate historian.

[@icyguy2547]

​@Zeke Bean Okay, I’ll bite. Here’s my scenario: Direct funding by Germany leads the National Socialist Movement of Chile to amass greater resources. That is to say, weapons and more propaganda. This propaganda helps them spread their message across Chile, attracting many more followers to their cause. Thus, the 1938 chilean coup attempt ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seguro_Obrero_massacre#Coup ) happens much earlier, in 1935. It’s works out wonderfully. Seeing the success of the coup, the Nazi high command decide to fund more such projects around South America. In our timeline, Hitler amassed great popularity with the Germans in Paraguay. In this timeline, both his popularity and weapons from the German high command lead a National Socialist Party of Paraguay to successfully coup the government in 1936. This process repeats itself in the following years, with the United States attempting to safeguard their influence by intervening in Peru on Christmas Eve, 1936. With the Great Depression alive and well, and with little popularity amongst both the soldiers and generals, this would fail miserably. The intervention would be seen as an imperialist action by most of Central and South America. Previously, there had been some uncertainty amongst the Central and South Americans on Germany. Some saw them as liberators that fought back against capitalism and corrupt statism, while others saw them as merely making a power play. However, after the intervention, the former view would become the general consensus. By the start of the war, Chile, Paraguay, Peru and Argentina are all ruled by Fascist or National Socialist governments. A South American council exists amongst the states, with it’s main goal being to ensure economic cooperation, as well as to diplomatically solve border conflicts. The other South American states are all aligned with the U.S. The only exception to this being Brazil. After the soldiers of the American-backed general Mascarenhas clashed with the paramilitary soldiers of Plínio Salgado, nearly bringing the country into civil war, the Brazilian public turned against both the United States and Germany. The Brazilian monarchy was brought back, with the Emperor ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Pedro_Henrique_of_Orléans-Braganza ), holding strong sympathies for the United Kingdom. When the war begins, the German-aligned South American states cut off all exports to the Allies. Aware of the sympathies of the Brazilian emperor, Britain gets pissed when Brazil refuses to join the war. After enough complaining, and nearly a declaration of war, Brazil too cuts of all exports to the Allies. The rest of the war goes as it did in our timeline. However, with fewer resources, equipment production in the UK slows to a halt. Thus, the Allies can’t afford to expend as many soldiers. Dunkirk, for an example, isn’t as big as it was in our timeline. During all this, Germany refuses to ally with Japan. Instead, they focus on building relations with Turkey. Like the non-aggression pact that was signed between the Soviets and Turkey twenty years earlier ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Moscow_(1921) ), a peace pact is signed between Turkey and Germany. With the failed intervention in Peru in mind, intervention is viewed much more negatively in this timeline. The America First Committee gathers a large amount of support from both the American public and elites. A much greater focus is placed on conserving and assisting capitalism, as well as entrepreneurship. With these two factors in mind, the U.S. oil embargo on Japan never happens, as both the general public and rich elite fear the damaging of trade, and the loss of American economic growth. Both the Brits and the Dutch also don't carry out the embargo, due to scant resources. Roosevelt is forced to bow to capitalist pressure, though he still tries to squeeze in some social democratic policies here and there. Truman would suddenly be assassinated in 1943, leading the isolationist Robert Rice Reynolds to become vice-president to Roosevelt (much to the latter's dismay, due to the former’s opposition to Roosevelt’s reforms). Eventually, he himself would become president upon Roosevelt's death. With fewer Allied soldiers on the western front, more German soldiers are sent to the eastern front. As such, they manage to win the battle of Stalingrad and push into the Caucasus. Initially, their tanks are stopped by the lack of infrastructure in the region, and their soldiers can’t advance on foot due to partisans in the mountains. On the condition that they be given control over their oil fields from Britain, and be granted control over Azerbaijan once the war is over, Iran joins the war on the side of Germany. Though the soviets try to invade them through Central Asia, they are knocked back by Iran when the Luftwaffe gives them a sizable number of planes. Eventually, peace is signed between the parties. The Soviet Union would soon break into a dozen separate pieces, with ethnic and political tensions dominating life for the Soviet population. What about Japan, then? As stated, the embargo never happens in this timeline. As such, both the IJA the IJN focus more on China. By 1945, they have managed to conquer most of it, though the terrain of both Northwestern and Southwestern China make the IJA soldiers easy to ambush and hard to supply. As such, the Japanese stop their conquest, for the time being. With the administration of Dutch Indonesia in chaos, the Japanese swoop in and create a puppet state that stretches from Sumatra to the western parts of the Cilacap Regency, with the charismatic Sukarno as leader. Everything beyond this point is under control of the dutch colonists. Seeking a strongman that can unite the peninsula and purge the government of both incompetent and disloyal characters, the economic elite behind the Dutch East India Company put the despotic Raymond Westerling in charge. The city of Semarang would become the post-war Berlin of this timeline, with one section controlled by the Japanese puppet, and the other by the Dutch colonial administration, with both being the administrative capitals of their respective sides. With german submarines and aircraft harassing the British, they eventually give up the fight and peace out. This greatly angers and demoralizes both the British public, old guard politicians, and aristocracy. Left-wing radicalism soon starts to grow. In 1947, two years after the end of the war, a communist revolution would overthrow both the British parlament and the monarchy. Using the chaos to their advantage, the colonies and dominions soon break away. In the aftermath of the war, the United States public, now long past the great depression, would begin to support more expansionist and aggressive measures. Having generally supported the capitalist views of most Americans at the time, the Republican party would soon take a heel turn and become nationalistic. As they continually support whatever views the public has, the Republican party would be seen as the party of the masses, and would soar in popularity. Storm Thurmond (a member of the Republican party in this timeline) is soon elected, and his first course of action is to seize control over Greenland. By 1952, the IJN would have managed to conquer most of China and Mongolia, though instability greatly plagues their puppet state. Britain, at this point, would have become interested in spreading the revolution into Ireland, while retaining sour tensions with Germany. Germany begins a giant bunker project along the coast fo France, and has started to put pressure on Spain and Portugal. Japan looks at Australia and New Zealand, helpless without the royal navy, and foams at the mouth. A cold war would has begun to develop between a reinvigorated United States, well-fortified Germany and ambitious Japan. Which one of these great powers will see the sunlight, in these dark times? Or will they all fight, until it is blocked out forever? That’s my take on this scenario. Anyone else have an idea regarding how the Germans could have won, as well as the aftermath? I’m genuinely quite curious.

[@denizaydemir6756]

@@icyguy2547 well written mate

[@icyguy2547]

@@denizaydemir6756 Thank you

[@icyguy2547]

​@Zeke Bean I don’t have a channel that posts videos, however, I have a few interesting playlists on my channel. I should also mention that I comment on a lot of alternate history videos, often giving suggestions for scenarios, most notably on Monsieur Z’s channel. Also, for my source on South American fascism, see this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJeTXqifaNp-jas . The rest of the stream is really interesting too, with the way they talk about modern South American history and politics.

[@Tubular_dude_20y_ago]

@@icyguy2547 Due this is weird but it makes me happy you really had a well thought out scenario of your own to tell in relation to your criticism a lot of people online don't do that but you put in the effort cheers to you mate

[@simonenefer2876]

US contribution to the Battle of the Atlantic was minimal until 1944, it was the Canadian navy's expansion, the Royal Navy's effectiveness and operational developments like enigma, long range air cover and OR won the u boat war in 1943. However without the US an invasion of occupied Europe would be impossible.

[@northchurch753]

Wouldn't have been impossible the European theater just would have taken longer. Not saying that we didn't need them though, since they helped a great deal at Omaha and boxing in the Nazis by going through Italy and of course Japan. Britain was essential because without a free Britain we would have a very hard time trying to touch down in France. Canada was essential to the Battle of Britain, the liberation of the Low Countries, and helping the US transport supplies to the British. The Free French, The Polish, the Czechoslovakians, and the Norwegians etc each received training in Britain by British and American forces and assisted both in frontline combat and assisted in gathering intelligence from inside Fortress Europe (examples are Witold Pilecki, and Max Manus and others). The Danish even under occupation helped to smuggle most of their Jewish population into neutral territories like Sweden saving 7,220 lives. Soviet Russia had managed to bulldoze their way through Eastern Europe at the expense of over half its army and were the first to penetrate Germany itself and before that even struck fear into the Nazis at the fail of their Blitzkrieg. Point is, every one of the Allied Nations had a part to play and it wouldn't be fair to narrow it down to a single winner among them.

[@slystar6418]

Wow! This is a very interesting topic to go over. This video was very interesting.thank you!

[@SvenDzahov]

I disagree about one thing. I think this would speed up American civil rights. During our timeline’s Cold War the USA did everything it could culturally to appose the soviets. In the alternate timeline it seems that racism would generally be seen as the “enemy”s thing and less people would be outwardly racist but the racists would be emboldened by the nazis.

[@scroogietw6878]

"I dont think the Russians cared about Moscow at all." Napoleon to Hitler, 1943

[@pokenaut7803]

@Whatifalthist One of the major reasons why the Americans couldn't completely win Vietnam was because of Chinese and Russian support. With that taken out of the picture, the US could easily invade North Vietnam without having to worry about China or the Soviets starting WW3. nbot to mention the Chinese would probably help the Americans win the war invading from the North.

[@superpumpkin1065]

"That was the longest video I ever made." Now he has a 30 minute minimum.

[@fawkewe]

You know i like all your timeline when the germans win worldwar 2 because I believe they are the most accurate.The only thing wrong with them is that stallin saw leaving a city as sign of weakness so he would likely be captured along with most of the russian government ended the war but i like this so much i want to ingore this

[@Klishar122]

Great scenario though I’m a little doubtful about Britain being starved out. Britain’s lifeblood was the sea and the German navy was extremely pitiful. Oh, except for the Bismarck but that was sunk just before the invasion of Russia. Hitler’s best chance at dominating Europe would likely require a ceasefire with the UK, seeing as how Churchill was so adamant about not surrendering.

[@paulcarpenter885]

@@FlaviusConstantinus306 I doubt it Churchill would have fought tooth and nail before that would happen

[@LapisMinecraft]

We can all agree. That the Kaiserreich scenario is the best alt-history.

[@haydenmichaud8953]

@Germania No fuhrerreich is a alt his about a nightmare

[@meandmetoo8436]

Eh, I'd probably still be fine in this world. Maybe a bit poorer.

[@BirdTurdMemes]

Nah you won’t exist

[@sebastianlee6695]

@@BirdTurdMemes I wouldn't exist if this world was more racist. Im like 30% asian bro

[@9zero187]

@@sebastianlee6695 your ancestors can flee to Asia though???

[@charlesbechen821]

The problem still remains, in the fact that racism between different Asians would still exist

[@febrian0079]

I would probably be fine in this world cause i'm an indigenous Indonesian, but the Chinese-Indonesian and Papuan wouldn't had the same fate though. Indonesian economy might be much larger than it is right now cause we might ally with the US

[@josephmother5975]

I really like how you didn’t just replace the USSR with Germany, and actually gave it some character

[@mydrunkhistoryrants9994]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "Russia won't stand to have a genocidal maniac in control of the Russian heart land" I guess Stalin doesn't count?

[@CW0123]

Then the world would be a better place. We’d have Japanese tech, German philosophy and Italian fashion.

[@jacobjgleggy1854]

Yep

[@clickbaitlegend8757]

Wait? A world where no Red Hammer and Shackle in the Eastern site of the planet? Well, wasn't so bad

[@KH4444444444N]

Sickle...Not "shackle". Smarten the fuck up.

[@aristocraticrebel]

Sounds like utopia to me.

[@___E]

You probably masterbait to pictures of SS officers.

[@commandercody4169]

utopia is impossible to achieve

[@nicoli3143]

We'd be living like angels amongst the stars

[@theinnerlight8016]

"The Russians wouldn't stand for having genocidal maniacs in control of their homeland." Lenin, Stalin and their soviets begg to differ.

[@shakey3306]

Lenin, stalin and the soviets being literal genocidal maniacs💀

[@oake6180]

The difference is, the germans are exterminating them

[@yousircantknow8987]

*There would be no "What If" videos: The End.*

[@TravisFebruary]

If nothing else, thanks for the history review. So glad I wasn't interrupted by ads either.

[@jacobtanner486]

We’d be able to afford a house, and our media wouldn’t be so corrupt

[@UselessGarbageMan]

????????

[@stantorren4400]

Holy shit bitchute is coming at full storm on this comment section

[@Dorkeydaze]

The media would be all propaganda

[@James_008]

Something overlooked in History when it comes to WWII: "The Greeks delayed by two or more vital months the German attack against Russia; if we did not have this long delay, the outcome of the war would have been different" - Hitler's Chief Of Staff. "We Thank the Greek people whose resistance decided WWII... You fought unarmed and won, small against big... You gave us time to defend ourselves" - Joseph Stalin.

[@James_008]

@Leo Mittas True. What's more fascinating is Greece held against the Germans more than any other European country. While France the "superpower" at the time fell in 43 days. Greece gave a good fight, stalling the Germans plans by resisting a total of 219 days. More than any other European country.

[@PoweredByLS2]

You're forgetting about Rasputitsa: The season when roads become difficult to traverse due to thawing snow in the spring time....

[@priscillamontoya]

Thank yoy for this. I for one really appreciate it. If people complain, ignore them. 😘

[@5amH45lam]

Wow, indeed! Fascinating, as ever. Top work! Thanks for sharing. 👍

[@50shekels]

Disgusting. Tell me more.

[@abczdad]

I had to stop listening to this guy when he said Cockasis…...

[@DoctorCyan]

LMAOOOOOO

[@ARG0T]

Who cares

[@ammazer1229]

This would be truly a great time to be Finish.

[@Phoenixguy357]

Fun fact: Canada was mostly responsible for americas achievements in ww2 when it came to pushing the germans back

[@rbvfeehfbudenrj]

16,112,566 Americans served in WW2. 1.1 million Canadians served in WW2. America had 6,768 ships in WW2. Canada had 434 Ships in WW2. 108,410 Tanks, 257,390 and Artillery made by America in WW2. 50,000 Canadian tanks made (which was probably just an extension of America’s industry anyway and most where made by America) 295,959 American planes served in WW2 16,000 Canadian planes served in ww2. (Which is probably again an extension of American Industry.)

[@Evanw10282]

That doesn’t make any sense💀💀

[@Mattipedersen]

6:29 This was the case for many Americans of German/Prussian Ancestry. My grandfather's parents'immigrated from Germany/Prussia to the Midwest (Wisconsin), in the late 1800's. Like his parents, he was fluent in German, celebrated and educated in German culture. However, when the time came, he signed up w/ the US Army in 1942 (fought across North Africa, prior to D-Day and then across Europe). I'm sure that these children and grandchildren of German immigrants all had to make a personal decision. I'm sure they each saw themselves as Americans first and Germans Second. This was the same for Japanese-Americans, who were ultimately subjected to imprisonment, merely for having Japanese blood. Yet many would also go on to fight, in the war, themselves. On the other hand, there were a select few German-Americans and Japanese-Americans who did end up heading the call of their Ancestral Homelands, and going back to fight for them. However, this was usually prior to the United States entry into the war and by the time the US did get involved, it was usually much too late.

[@DalekOfChaos666]

How about what if Trotsky succeeded Lenin

[@RemiBoyz]

Trotsky would invade Germany to crush the fascist uprising and unite the Communists of east Europe. As a result the fascist doctrine (the communist Jew is out to get us!! Ahhh!!!!) would not be shunned as today and fascism would live on. Trotsky would also invade other countries to “liberate” them and start the world commune. Eventually when nukes come into play a new iron curtain is formed and America and USSR go into Cold War.

[@soulspeaker1979]

I always wondered that too. I always look at it from a tactical point and in extent production and technology point. The 2 front war being the biggest issue. Declaring war on the USA and Russia was stretching troops. Further more if they had little mire patience in developing weapons like the new submarines type 21 they could cripple Britain by sea and keep pushing east. If they were able to develop jet engines and produce them in larger counts they'd rule the skies. Same production effort should have been put in the new submarine and panzers like the tiger. This would also mean they could keep putting resources in to bolstering the western front Defence. In the end they couldn't keep up due to the numbers they faced inspire having superior technology. Tiger vs Sherman? Tiger any day. The type 21 submarines where the first real dedicated underwater subs. Faster underwater then on the surface, more deadly and could stay submerged longer then anything. The messersmit fighter jet was leagues ahead and so were the planned jet bombers.

[@kosmicwizard]

Agree with everything you said, except that there are not enough numbers of the superior technologies to overcome the mass amounts of pieces the allies had.

[@soulspeaker1979]

@@kosmicwizard yeah that's why declaring war on the USA was a mistake. Because the superior weapons couldn't be produced fast enough at the end f the war. Resources were stretching, from the Atlantic Wall and the Siegfried Line, wich took immense resources. They should have consolidated the west. Take the Krimea for the oil. And have a stalemate with Russia. Trying to conquer Russia in it's entirety was to big of a bite. Hitler wanted to much in to little time.

[@kosmicwizard]

@@soulspeaker1979 Germany never should have gone East, the Russians were adhering to a non agression pact. It didn't matter that Germany declared war on the US defending Nippon, because the US would have declared war on Germany due to their U boats sinking cargo ships bringing supplies to the UK.

[@eater_of_garbage_]

And if only, somehow, all of the american generals wouid SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST! I'm sure the reich would beat ol' uncle sam then!

[@LDSLogan]

Alternate Title: The timeline that Whatifalthist would love.

[@theuniverse5173]

Based rudyward

[@gabekaye6773]

Cmon the us was not the only country that fought against Japan so many others were vital. The first Japanese defeat of the entire war was from the Australians in the Kokoda campaign.

[@U9DATE]

Exactly.

[@Evanw10282]

No offense, but while we do appreciate Australia, And ESPECIALLY, China, Australia really didn’t do anything major..

[@rickrozen2341]

Dude wtf why are you downplaying the Bengal genocide?

[@Walterdecarvalh0100]

Lmao when?

[@blu3_enjoy]

Genocide?

[@hello7522]

??

[@spacemario]

Brazil might have allied with Germany as well, as weird as it sounds. We also had a fascist-like dictatorship in the 30s and 40s, who almost allied with the Axis

[@ch33zyburrito36]

Pretty sure the Japanese were ready to surrender in 1945... They found that the emperor was considering a conditional surrender for months and in addition to that the Russians declaring war on Japan worried him more so than the Americans

[@leninmccarthy5654]

Yeah this guy is so biased towards the US he can't bring himself to admit that his country needlessly nuked two Japanese cities as a show of strength towards the Russians, lol

[@ch33zyburrito36]

@@leninmccarthy5654 Im pretty sure the story goes that the emperor was willing to surrender to the allies but most of his generals were not, so my comment is a little misleading.

[@tjnlindaoconchuir1312]

Your vids are amazing! I look forward to your projections for the US of the coming decades.

[@misomiso8228]

Really think you should do multiple of these, doing many different scenarios. There are so many deep alternative scenarios of how Germany could have one, and each one could merit it's own video.

[@lolsmo395]

7:35 in a possible scenario, If the Tibet Improvement Party did over threw the Government, they might've agreed to be annexed by nationalists, since they are also pro-Republic of China. so yeah, I could definitely see the ROC supporting the Tibetan party against the government of Tibet.

[@gent9358]

"Americans beat both Germany and Japan" - 80% of German Casualties were on the Eastern Front - USSR losses only second to China - USSR took Berlin - US's biggest application of force up in Europe up to 1944 was lend-leasing to the Soviets I will not lie and say the US did nothing, actually, the US was the main fighter against Japan, and helped a lot in Europe, but that phrase is filled to the brim with American Exceptionalism. Americans *helped* beat Germany, in that part, most of the heavy lifting was done by the Soviets. On the other hand, aside from the Manchuria Campaign, the USSR barely had any hand in Japan, so that phrase is justified in the second part.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

75% of the Luftwaffe was on the Western Front in 1943 and yet they still had air superiority.

[@ursosexmachina]

The part on Africa is false, the Germans actually had no plan to extertminate the Africans or subjugate them in any way. They were included in volunteer SS and Wehrmacht divisions in North Africa, and were to be allowed to live in Reichkomissariat styled colonies, or even in independent Fascist Adjacent puppet states in the lands not desireable for Germany itself to directly manage. They had the same level of respect for the African peoples than they did for the Japanese. And German propaganda even called the Ku Klux Klan barbarians for their display of anti-african behaviour. Germany during ww2 wasn't just out to murder everyone not German, this is a horrible misconception that people have, for reasons that are obvious to some, and unknown to others. P.S: that racial map is extremely incorrect. The Americans were considered subhuman, besides the few German migrants that maintained German values. Blacks were treated much like Native Americans in that they were both respected as not aryan but "noble" as it was put there, though no mention of them being savages. So long as they did not mix races, they were left to their own devices. The only real subhumans according to the Nazis, were Jews, mixed Europeans in the outer colonies, Russians, Communists, the disabled and people with "alternate lifestyles."

[@admirekashiri9879]

😂😂 what do load of BS. We were animals in their eyes they were exterminating Africans before they did thae same acts to Jewish people.

[@kagnetix6674]

@@admirekashiri9879 Nazeesi Symapthizers and their nonsense. Next they'll say they never hated jews due to the nobel one that hitler liked

[@seamusduffy983]

The main problem of the war was that the axis simply couldn't out-produce the allies, particularly the US. Even if America stayed out (which is dubious; Roosevelt was a master politician, and would've pushed for intervention especially, not in spite of, the fact that they were at war with Japan already) it would undoubtedly continue to support the allies economically until at least 1944, the next presidential election in the US. Germany would not and could not invade the UK with the US's backing, especially when it's economy was ALREADY mobilized for war with Japan. Finally, assuming that the US would be the only country to fight Japan is absurd. Sure, the US may be the only one to contribute in a meaningful way, but the Dutch and British would almost definetely declare war. Make no mistake, being already involved in a war effort with the British in East Asia while simultaneously economically supporting them in Western Europe would go a long way to convincing the US to join the broader war.

[@seamusduffy983]

This is not to say that Germany couldn't have won the war; they certainly could've. Rather, I feel the scenario created lacked the necessary prerequisites for a Nazi victory.

[@coombscharlie]

Agreed. Assuming the Japanese attacked Hong Kong, Malaysia and Singapore on 7th December 1941 in this scenario as they did in our timeline, Britain would most definitely have declared and waged war.

[@Danietz]

tbh except for the genocide and nazi ideologies, this scenario sounds a lot better than our timeline. - no communism in eastern europe - no/delayed feminism - no wokeness - 50 million chinese are saved from famine, and get to enjoy a much higher standard of living

[@TurtleChad1]

Deranged take

[@Danietz]

@@TurtleChad1 how are any of the timeline changes I mentioned a bad thing?

[@___E]

In other words: "The mass genocide and enslavement of Eastern Europeans is better than Soviet apartment blocks" Also why would the Chinese have a better standard of living lol?

[@shakey3306]

@@TurtleChad1 got triggered?

[@Sara3346]

''Nazism with a human face'' might be the strangest thing I've heard this year thus far.

[@BartoszLimanowski]

In that alternate timeline it would be "Judeo Communism" with a human face as the stangest thing for Germans🤣

[@MrWizeazz]

This video wouldn’t be so bad if you didn’t sound so whiny and condescending. I’d honestly rather read the subtitles than listen to your voice. I’m sincerely not trying to be rude or mean, it’s just so unbearable that it’s hard to take it seriously. I would suggest allowing someone else to narrate future videos if at all possible.

[@sendhelp9534]

Try better at not being rude or mean if that is really your goal.

[@MrWizeazz]

Jaina Proudmoore I appreciate the advice. I will work on that. Thank you.

[@polishfenian]

Jaina Proudmoore he said he wasn’t trying to be rude. Can you not read? Plus this guys voice is high pitched and annoying.

[@polishfenian]

Prahtian Bleu dude is 100% an anorexic vegan.

[@christianriddler5063]

@@sendhelp9534 Being honest is not rude, it's being honest and should be appreciated.

[@InsideTheDogWorld]

Just a tip, I love history myself but don't have the time to make another youtube channel. Make " What if the Ottoman Empire failed or didn't exist" haha

[@learninglasvegas..1822]

His voice reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite's brother.

[@mickeyray3793]

I can hear Hitler in his grave moaning "If only I coulda woulda shoulda...."

[@MewCast1]

What’s is your source that the Germany had a lot of oil? Cuz they were having fuel crisis as early as 1940 and is it poor offense if they letting them take land tho?Like Russia did? And it was clear if the UK would of been invade or fallen as well as if Germany kept shooting down there ships the US would of declare war ageist Germany.

[@isaiahwelch8066]

The shortage of oil -- thus fuel -- was the reason for the invasion of the Caucasus in 1941. Further, it was thought that a southern front would have helped Army Group Center take Kiev and then Moscow. My issue is that the German Army Group Center should, from a strategic viewpoint, absconded from attacking Kiev, and instead headed to take on Moscow in September, 1941. That decision -- not Stalingrad -- was the reason, IMHO, that Germany lost the Eastern Front.

[@Blaas123]

Hearts of iron 4. This guy is a nob.

[@MewCast1]

Washcoon who is a nob?

[@Blaas123]

@@MewCast1 Friendly banter at the creator i assure you ;)

[@orangemanbad9989]

Synthetic oil wasn't produced until the 1960's. Two decades after World War two ended. The Germans were always having to deal with shortages of fuel throughout the war. Most significantly near the end, when the last of the Romanian oil fields were captured by the Russians. Those same oil fields were being bombed by the US starting in 1943, along with many of their fuel depots.

[@bigbrother6742]

I'm no historian, but the statements that you laid out at the foundation of the idea of an nazi dominated world are completely ludicrous. Are you saying that Germans had no problems with oil in 1944 and 1945, after the Romanian oilfields were first destroyed by aerial attacks and then occupied by Soviets? It is true that Germans increased their syntehic oil output along the way, hovewer the German oil demand was never fully satisfied from the very beggining and the only reason why Germany could wage a war for 5 years is their oil supplies stored before the war. In 1944 the supplies were alredy getting exhousted. Lack of oil was the reason why Germans did not focus on developing jet fighters (because the combustion engine burns through fuel like hell), why Italian fleet stayed idle in ports, why the Allies waisted so much forces attempting to destroy Ploesti oilfields. Why would Soviets want to take back Moscow that badly? Losing Moscow would surely be painful, but Soviets were cinical and perfectly aware that it's not the end of the world. So long as the industrial centers are operational and oil is flowing from Causasus, the war can go on, therefore defence of the oilfields would be considered higher priority than retaking Moscow. Germany would become entirely self-sufficient? Maybe, but first they would have to deal with the guerilla in the east, estabilish supply lines, rebuild destroyed infrastructure and at the same time manage to not spread their forces too thinly. It is naive to beleve that US would just not declare war on Germany sooner or later, just as it is naive to think that British Empire with their ever improving submarine detection can be starved to death. Oh, it is also worth to mention that siberian regiments were no "elite". They were just regular regiments.

[@nbookie]

The Netflix version makes for much better tv.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Are you talking about man in high castle or is there comething different

[@nbookie]

@@unnamedchannel1237 yes, thats what the reference was.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Sorry I was unsure cause man in high castle is amazon

[@zorzem3290]

Honnestly i feel like your bias against communisn influenced the direction of ussr .The soviet union was already industrializing when the germans attacked so it would make more sence for them to becom some kind of production/efiiciency focused nation maybe the instability would lead someone to overthrow stalin there are so many posibilities but you just seemed to just remove the ussr from the equation

[@ethanhammond6654]

Although the majority of your video is fantastic, I just want to point out a fundamental error. Whilst Britain were indeed suffering heavy losses to Germany submarines, so were Germany in terms of submarines. Americans not being in the war would have simply made it harder, but still manageable. The researching of new sub hunting techniques, as well as the the fact that Britain did most of the German sub killing anyway, means you are completely wrong to state than Britain would capitulate without invasion.

[@ChristianCollins-ux1zr]

2:38 believe it or not Hitler never wanted to take Moscow. It’s common mistake for historians to make, Hitler really wanted the Ukraine and calcacusses since those regions would help remedy Germany’s food and oil crisis. However army commander Halder, thinking what worked in France would also work in Russia ignored Hitler and instead planned to focus on the capital. While the German Campaign did benefit since Stalin also knew that Hitler would try and take the south was completely caught off guard by the drive for Moscow, however in 1942 the Germans quite literally ran out of oil and when they tried to take the oil fields (called operation or case Blau/blue) they couldn’t use the their panzers to the best of the their ability and couldn’t take the oil.