🚨CORRECTION: Manawanui is the 3rd largest ship in the RNZN. I misread her tonnage and that is my error. This story is about what we know so far in the sinking of HMNZS Manawanui. Since the focus of the comments seems to be on the ship's captain, here is her background. Commander Yvonne Gray joined the Royal Navy in 1993 and sailed in frigates and minehunters. She transferred to the Royal New Zealand Navy in 2012 and Manawanui is her first command.🚨 Also, no comments on my excellent Maori?
@PatRiarchy-qw6cpАй бұрын
And her last command, as well
@wgowshippingАй бұрын
@@PatRiarchy-qw6cp That is true.
@bobkorouaАй бұрын
You tried at least.
@sgtbrown4273Ай бұрын
Awesome work . Greetings from McMurdo Station Antarctica 😊
@Richard-od7ydАй бұрын
This is almost as bad as Sweden losing one of its New VISBY Class Frigates a couple of years ago .
@ronalddavisАй бұрын
first rule of navigation. don't drive the ship where the birds are walking
@DB-thats-meАй бұрын
Is that like the aviation rule. Don’t fly into clouds containing mountain goats! 😳😂
@rogertracks7744Ай бұрын
Many idiots these days, only learn by their actions.
@JohnSmith-ux3ttАй бұрын
Now you tell me.
@childofthekingjesusmylord8715Ай бұрын
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@SoundofwindonsandАй бұрын
The green marker? The red marker? Uuuh. I Like Red ♥️
@parabot2Ай бұрын
Heckuva job, Yvonne. She runs a naval vessel aground. It catches fires, sinks, forcing all hands to abandon ship. Civilians save them. And she is praised for the evacuation? , it's great to be a DEI hire.
@cck4863Ай бұрын
Given that she is the first British Naval personal that sink a foreign vessel since Falklands War. That need a medal don't you think?
@MJ-tg7wvАй бұрын
Couldn't make it up. Can we go back to hiring folks who are the best for the job - equal opportunities - but hire the best.
@JeepWrangler1957Ай бұрын
Yes she is a lesbian.
@vincebonilla4006Ай бұрын
😂 This is why You Never Apply Your Mascara and eye Liner in your Rear View mirror while Driving ! Wish I could say you will never catch her male counter parts doing so , but with this New Woke world ( Time will tell ) .
@marcleewinser8534Ай бұрын
What a Shame... Such an impressive, wonderful and capable Vessel...
@raylv6962Ай бұрын
I just hope no one is held responsible. The last thing we want is hurting anyone's feelings. 😅
@merlinbotha363Ай бұрын
yeah god forbid there are consequences for actions
@RicoBananiАй бұрын
😂😂😂
@abaddon4823Ай бұрын
Unless it’s a white male
@CiboriumАй бұрын
They'll probably pin the whole thing on some White Cis Het enlisted male sailor.
@Rockit-Ай бұрын
Especially a Lesbian - dont wanna have the WOKE brigade on you
@raymond5194Ай бұрын
The captain is an idiot and incompetent. This is embarrassing. No excuses. The nerve of making the captain a hero for saving the crew when they were almost killed. Royal fuck up.
@davidrodgers9919Ай бұрын
Was it a DIE hire
@kevin1294Ай бұрын
If the captain is men, sure he will be reprimanded and tell he’s a bad commander ect ect. But since this “commander” is whaman and even better, lesbian, sure she will be remembered as “hero”.
@user-kcrpineАй бұрын
kevin1294 - like how NZ immediately came out lauding her bravery and heroism in “saving” crew? But hey…. She got to play captain! So strong and independent.
@megamondАй бұрын
Heavy duty damage control for the captain vs the ship. Was there a black box audio recording? Do Lloyds demand so, even for Naval vessels?
@ajax5148Ай бұрын
@@user-kcrpineImmediately came out and lauded as hero. Before any investigation has been completed. Tells you all you need to know. Normally (if you are not a woman and a lesbian...read "protected group"), nothing would be said until completion of a complete investigation.
@ncox001Ай бұрын
The loss of a hydrographic survey ship in these circumstances is humiliating. Ultimately the Commanding Officer is responsible
@wyattfamily8997Ай бұрын
The inquiry will find someone else to blame, a male of course.
@gaycha6589Ай бұрын
@@wyattfamily8997Captain Cook?
@pegcity4evaАй бұрын
She's gay it'll be deemed some random straight white guys fault
@thisisntthewholesomefuture649Ай бұрын
@@gaycha6589 lol
@chrissmith7669Ай бұрын
Sounds like a problem during maintenance if it lost power on its first mission after heavy work
@johnborio4470Ай бұрын
“The mark of a great ship handler is never getting into situations that require great ship handling.” Fleet Admiral Earnest J. King USN
@shawnmiller4781Ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why he kept Halsey around after the second typhoon
@dahveed284Ай бұрын
I need this to be a motivational poster for my boat.
@bluedragontoybash2463Ай бұрын
hear hear..
@stevenmarler5154Ай бұрын
@@shawnmiller4781 ask nimitz not king
@ravenwing199Ай бұрын
@robdog1245Halsey should have never been in comtrol of where the fleet goes. However once the fighting started he was pretty damn good. Unfortunately "Admiral but only during combat" is not a real rank.
@michaelbateman6430Ай бұрын
Way too many smiles from a crew that just lost a Navy ship to a static object. Never change New Zealand.👍
@stevendevilliers471Ай бұрын
@@michaelbateman6430 a static unarmed object , think of new Zealand chances at war
@carlv8168Ай бұрын
Mabe they're smiling because they anticipate that their commanding officer will be relieved of command and relegated to an administrative assignment! LOL!
@tonysa2337Ай бұрын
@@carlv8168Depends on who the commanding officer is. If it's a DEI officer their/they job is safe😄
@mrpaisleyshirtАй бұрын
They were smiling because they all thought the captain had gone down with the ship.
@frankjames7272Ай бұрын
They are happy they are fully vaccinated . And to top that they were able to save the lgbt flag from going down with the ship .
@roverinosnarkman7240Ай бұрын
Very hard to hide total incompetence, but every government tries.
@BoredSquirellАй бұрын
The ship was surveying reefs - it definitely located a reef
@theophrastus3.056Ай бұрын
"Reef ahoy!"
@donoimdono2702Ай бұрын
“During our survey we discovered a large amount of previously undocumented damage to the reef consistent with impacts from a large ship.” - ya don't say....... was one of those indentations the exact shape of the _Manawanui_ hull?
@pingukuteproАй бұрын
and become one
@minnyhАй бұрын
irrelevant
@Maxx1066Ай бұрын
Kinda expensive learning cure how many more ships will the need to find other reefs?
@mcallahan9060Ай бұрын
The phrase "You had one job!" comes to mind.
@CarlGerhardt1Ай бұрын
Ah,...but at least the crew were 100% vaccinated! Thanks, Jacinda!
@clownphabetstrongwoman7305Ай бұрын
and she munched it… because it seems she is not into blowing.
@obliviouzАй бұрын
If only they kept that in mind, instead of diversity hires and diversity naming...
@tomriley5790Ай бұрын
His job was to find the reefs :-)!
@dawnmoriarty9347Ай бұрын
The one job is to keep the crew as safe as possible.
@midnightfenrirАй бұрын
Ran aground, capsized, caught on fire and then sank. That sounds like an Achievement for sinking an enemy ship in a game. "Use four methods at once to destroy an enemy ship"
@shawnmiller4781Ай бұрын
Sounds positively Russian Black Sea fleet doesn’t it
@pastorjerrykliner3162Ай бұрын
Or maybe a Monty Python sketch...
@johnlamb3101Ай бұрын
That’s the level of expertise in the Royal NZ Navy! Yahoo! Well done! Always the “Best in the World!” This “fuck up” surely was the “best in the world!” Hope there is a Court Marshall over the sinking!
@billrehm3590Ай бұрын
@@johnlamb3101 she is gay, everyone look the other way.
@phlogistanjones2722Ай бұрын
@@pastorjerrykliner3162 YES! My thoughts precisely. At least it was not in a swamp.....?
@chrismifflin3862Ай бұрын
I am a former First Mate that worked on containerships for over 10 years. I worked with very competent captains most of the time. When you have a captain who is not competent for the job, it puts the entire vessel, crew, and cargo at risk. One captain I worked with as a third mate was so incompetent our vessel near grounded when entering Norfolk Va, when he decided to turn the ship out of the bouyed channel and nearly grounded. There were many close calls and incidents over the 6 month contract that I had signed on to that vessel for until the very last day of my contract. On that last day when we arrived at Hong Kong, the ship was too fast for the ETA so he decided that rather then reduce the engine RPM he was going to do a round turn to adjust the ETA. So at night in very heavy traffic about 5 NM south of Waglan Island, he decided to do this round turn and as a result our ship caused a collision with a coastal bulk carrier laden with coal. The collision shore of the bulk carriers bow right at the collision bulk head. Our vessel took damage as well that required an emergency dry dock. Fortunately, there was no loss of life. The Captain was found solely responsible for the collision and was nearly sent to China to face trial. Luckily for him, the owner of OOCL was close to the CPC and was able to keep him from getting arrested. This was 2000.
@otiebrown9999Ай бұрын
You are right. Sometimes a good navigator, cam save the incompetent captain. But that is rare. This CAPTAIN RAN HER SHIP DIRECLY ON SHORE INTELLIGENCE? YOU LAY OFF SHORE, UNTIL FIRST LIGHT. CAPTAIN = IDIOT
@LuisNunes-ps4slАй бұрын
Only thing I can say for him, at least he didn't manage to set fire to anything...
@wobblyboostАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing that, it shows the other element of allowing bad skippers a ship. The people that work on that ship that know he/she lacks the skills, work under the stress of hoping his mistakes only have small consequences. The round turn through a shipping channel manouvre is the nautical version of stopping on a 6 lane freeway then doing a blind Uturn from one side to the other.
@blickluke26 күн бұрын
Did you and the crew not think of mutiny at all? Surely crew can do a vote of no consequence of some kind and have the captain replaced?
@wobblyboost26 күн бұрын
@@blickluke Vote of 'no confidence' is the term. Mutiny laws still exist but in merchant navy is only a temporary declaration that second in command is taking temporary control due to skippers repeated dangerous errors witnessed by most of the crew. Unless the captain has commited multiple law breaches. In which case the second officer can request from both the company and shipping authority to restrain and/or incarcerate offendor until safe anchorage is reached. Mutiny protocol is not a claim to make lightly, you will face arbitration investigation with the possibility that the shipping authority and the skipper fight against you and a losing claim would certainly end the career of the instigator, who would also face fines and imprisonment.
@fissile1Ай бұрын
Hydrographic survey. Using the touch system.
@pablogm5191Ай бұрын
hahahaha
@oldschoolman1444Ай бұрын
Yup, we found bottom captain! 😅
@BiBh375Ай бұрын
percussive surveying
@HoneyBadger80886Ай бұрын
Bumper failure
@tjav001Ай бұрын
NZ does everything by braille
@jamesgraham6122Ай бұрын
I won't be holding my breath in anticipation of a thoroughly detailed, verifiable report on the loss. NZ has a poor reputation when it comes to cover-ups.
@nicolad8822Ай бұрын
🙄
@colonelfustercluck486Ай бұрын
but the head of the Inquiry into this sinking is another Navy Officer... a female one as well by striking coincidence. That means it will be fair doesn't it?
@jamesgraham6122Ай бұрын
@@colonelfustercluck486 🤣😂🥺
@awumaАй бұрын
Sadly so, as in the case of the Mount Erebus Disaster. The current PM is a former, though much later, Air New Zealand CEO.
@CyberSystemOverloadАй бұрын
I was about to say the same thing. I'll be surprised if they release everything that they found out about this incident. I was about to mention the crash of the airplane into Antarctica but I can see someone has already mentioned it. That was one of the world's worst cover-ups and a display of power and corruption. Let's see what happens here, let's see how open they are. The taxpayers off the country are older explanation if one of the Navy's bathtubs was grounded.
@revolutionhamburgerАй бұрын
They sent the ship out to look for reefs. They found a reef. Other countries use sonar to look for underwater rocks. New Zealand does it by feel guided by feelings.
@TavistockLiesBrainwashingАй бұрын
Use echosounders not sonar.
@keegan773Ай бұрын
Surveying by braille. Well that’s a new one.
@roaddogrichardАй бұрын
LOL!
@B61Mod12Ай бұрын
When you have DEI hiring practices you don't get the luxury of dodging the DEI criticism of your DEI hires.
@The_Victorius_One28 күн бұрын
The NZ defense minister is also a "didn't earn it"
@Ozzybob-ts7yj23 күн бұрын
Oh yes you do
@dorbieАй бұрын
OMFG, the delicious irony of a ship grounding itself while conducting a hydrographic survey.
@knightrider585Ай бұрын
The lesson here is don't survey uncharted waters, I guess.
@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289Ай бұрын
@@knightrider585first female commander? Maybe the lesson is DEI hiring is bad.
@DarrenParsons-k8tАй бұрын
The media stand up said that the survey was completed before the vessel grounded
@kiwiadventures3773Ай бұрын
That is true. But nothing much you can do if you lose power. The cook straight ferry is testament to that.
@roddas26Ай бұрын
@@kiwiadventures3773why are defending this so actively?
@andrewpease3688Ай бұрын
Exact position of reef clearly marked on charts successfully confirmed.
@albatwitchwiggler6905Ай бұрын
Yup, they're definitely still there
@owenstockwood5040Ай бұрын
And now it's even marked with a convenient shipwreck so everyone can see where it is!
@ragsy887Ай бұрын
Task failed successfully
@my12spoonswithrose43Ай бұрын
Actually this reef hasn't been surveyed since the 80s which means it changes.
@andrewpease3688Ай бұрын
@@my12spoonswithrose43 reefs grow very slowly
@stevef9530Ай бұрын
Saying ‘the ship grounded itself and sank’ is like saying a gun went off and killed somebody. With regard to the photo I have seen of the captain of the Manawanui, how do you get awarded medals without fighting in a war? Even aside from the DEI aspect to this, it’s ridiculous. God help NZ if there is a war.
@colonelfustercluck486Ай бұрын
you get medals for attendance, participation..... long service, not being caught, being in the right place in view of someone handing out medals of some sort.
@koro287Ай бұрын
God wont help us because we have spat wokeness in his face,we are basically adrift like that vessel was and are following the same trajectory sadly.
@flowinsoundsАй бұрын
fortunately the country folk still know how to shoot straight
@davidian7787Ай бұрын
More ribbons than a Malaysian customs clerk. Officer... Whatever.
@chrisnoname2725Ай бұрын
I think they have mostly been trying to stay neutral. Even if they weren’t, why would anyone travel all that way to attack them? Sheep are that valuable
@gone547Ай бұрын
She got all excited when she heard they were 'going down'.
@QwestionmarkАй бұрын
Excellent report, from a NZ resident who wanted to hear not the comments from politicians or journalists, but from someone who knows his stuff. Thanks!
@13699111Ай бұрын
I agree and add no negative citizen trolls allowed either
@skybluskyblueifyАй бұрын
@@13699111 There's plenty of misogynists and essentially racists below. Blaming those characteristics rather than wait for the details to come out. They are jumping the gun because their emotions are that strong about those issues.
@lyricallyunwaxable1234Ай бұрын
@@skybluskyblueifyOver 26 years and NZ gave her, her 1st command. It's not hatred, it's ridicule. There's huge suspicion that it was a diversity hire, call me misogynist, homophobe and transphobe, guaranteed I'm not. We sent a man to the Olympics as a woman, we don't want all that woke BS. We don't hate woman, we don't hate gays we h8 the new normal!
Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. This is the site to come to.
@pppp-jf5csАй бұрын
@@skybluskyblueify No, DEI hiring may well be the issue. Limiting the pool of applicants to a tiny proportion of the population is NOT the way to get good people. It also drives others away from a career in the navy. We will have to wait and see.
@imgr5143Ай бұрын
One word... Incompetence.
@vtjake3761Ай бұрын
well no wonder. The Captain is a DEI lesbian woman hire? So no wonder it ran aground? I mean give me a break, hire drag queens, and this is what happens.
@edwinovАй бұрын
Two words: diversity hire
@pirongia5168Ай бұрын
Looks like wokeness strikes again, with more incompetence from the bridge.
@thrusta100Ай бұрын
Of the highest order! Better be held accountable and not be another woke joke like Ardern...
@edwinovАй бұрын
Two words: diversity hire
@AlwayzPr0Ай бұрын
Imagine being so bad at your job that you run aground on a ship full of sensors for mapping the sea bed.
@stevenakn1Ай бұрын
😅😅
@gtdcovАй бұрын
Do you know who was in command?
@HowardDrysdaleАй бұрын
How do you assess who/what is “so bad?” Do you understand anything about seamanship? Publish the facts that led you to this “guess” as to how it happened!
@donoimdono2702Ай бұрын
@@HowardDrysdale- you may want to engage brain while reading comments. pretty obvious what he said
@jaydanbaker123Ай бұрын
@HowardDrysdale The Captains prior career history seems to be the leading issue. But regardless of the seemingly obvious diversity hire, the ships function at the moment was mapping the sea bed which leads to the hilarous irony of a burning fire truck. It doesn't matter if it actually wasn't this captains fault the buck stops with her full stop.
@barrielomas9056Ай бұрын
Long after grounding she was seen from shore having electric lights on (power for pumps or fire fighting hoses). Also was seen to became un stuck. HMS Tamar, who later standing by, had time to board and recover log book from the deserted bridge. Was she abandoned too soon ???
@gcflower99Ай бұрын
Ship's Master, Yvonne Gray "...once hoped to open her own restaurant...". She may be doing that soon.
@JestaBl1tzАй бұрын
sexy fingers lol
@AB-ez4rmАй бұрын
I doubt it. She's a DEI hire and they can't fire those. It would prove their mistake are placing the tool in charge.
@DerAngriffАй бұрын
@@AB-ez4rm nah, her naval career is gone. DEI or not. The loss is huge for the NZ navy and it will take years to make good on the loss.
@williampotter2098Ай бұрын
Well, she'll be chipping paint and washing dishes for the rest of her time in the Navy.
@qbi4614Ай бұрын
@@AB-ez4rm but the water identified as being deeper
@mattedwards1880Ай бұрын
I'm a Kiwi and I find hard to believe they were carrying out surveying activities at 7pm on a Saturday evening. A few tropical cocktails on deck while they watched the Sunset maybe. Perhaps someone forgot to put the park brake on.
@FrankReynolds-y1yАй бұрын
Woman driver
@donwayne1357Ай бұрын
Krodile Dundy.
@OziBlokeTimGАй бұрын
exactly, couple of scobies, then you're in business. 😅
@wendygerrish4964Ай бұрын
Sounds about right.
@TsxdudenАй бұрын
i have worked on vessels where we survey for four weeks straight, we were then about 60 onboard. days and nights. but this was in the oil industry. so money talks much i guess
@tobycowmanАй бұрын
Captain Cook managed to get around without a chart and no engine.
@Gsoda35Ай бұрын
must have had engine trouble so it was shutdown.
@jackdawg4579Ай бұрын
and he also hit a reef ...
@shoutattheskyАй бұрын
He was a man
@jubeaumont6305Ай бұрын
..and eaten
@jjgreybeardАй бұрын
But Cook was an old salt, not a DEI hire...
@Greenmachine305Ай бұрын
The other thing that seems to have hit rock bottom in NZ is the talent.
@winx4930Ай бұрын
Pommie upside down chair sitter... not kiwi
@mysterioanonymous3206Ай бұрын
The real talent went to work in the US and Australia 😂
@petethehawk5186Ай бұрын
Kinda true. People have been fleeing NZ in droves because inflation, cost of living skyrocketing and lack of quality jobs for younger people.
@marcleewinser8534Ай бұрын
Welcome to the Rest of this downridden World...
@paulmcfeeters555429 күн бұрын
DEI hires never have any talent for the job.
@dongiovanni4331Ай бұрын
They found the reef!
@farmerfarmerer3847Ай бұрын
Now it is a reef.
@Sagart999Ай бұрын
Correction - They re-discovered a "well-charted reef", according to Sal.
@MarkD-pl4fuАй бұрын
Sonar contact! Brace for impact! Well, obviously the reef was at fault
@johneddys2351Ай бұрын
Probably smoking the reef too.
@Knuck_KnucksАй бұрын
Did you see the reef? Well, I hit it didn't I? 🐿
@mikebritcom3171Ай бұрын
The Irish Navy recently suffered a similar setback when an oar broke.
@HeisthelightoftheworldАй бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bluedragontoybash2463Ай бұрын
LOL
@shauny2285Ай бұрын
Cold. 😊
@rowenahaldane8061Ай бұрын
Tres witty!!!
@2l8mate59Ай бұрын
Lol...😂
@HershelPeppersАй бұрын
Finally, good commentary on the incident
@ravenfeaderАй бұрын
Great job Captain Yvonne and im sure you will be promoted to Admiral after this wonderful display of your talents .
@timboz88Ай бұрын
Agree, she made sure that the crew spent 20%+ of their training on "Te Reo" learning, DEI training, self-hate struggle sessions for any white blokes still on board, Wellness counselling. I could go on. The Chinese PLA Navy cannot stop laughing 😥
@DisFantasyАй бұрын
Failing upward is prevalent.
@larryt4884Ай бұрын
Wokeism is doing well in NZ.
@roark8009Ай бұрын
Failing upwards is the status quo for DEI hires.
@sleharАй бұрын
You must be a bigot and hate trans people (and the rest of the LGBTQ+++ ) 😂
@hydewhyte4364Ай бұрын
I want to know if they're going to sue the captain for damage to the reef like they'd do to any civilian captain.
@michaeldowson6988Ай бұрын
Why the captain, rather than the crew member monitoring the depth gauge.
@Mishn0Ай бұрын
@@michaeldowson6988 It's always the Captain's fault. It comes with the hat.
@PehDoePeetАй бұрын
@@michaeldowson6988 Oh boy, there always has to be an apologist for a failed system . Did Not Earn It. Quotas. "Equity" .
@paton57Ай бұрын
It's Milatary they pay the bill
@michaeldowson6988Ай бұрын
@@Mishn0 Then why do they waste money on investigative enquiries?
@oldschool1993Ай бұрын
The word has gone out from the top that the cause was loss of power and anyone saying differently will face a court martial. The DEI captain will be awarded the Kings Medal for her heroic effort to save her makeup case during which she suffered a broken nail.
@davefitzpatrick4841Ай бұрын
Hang on , you're assuming she's the feminine one in the relationship 🤔
@setts3Ай бұрын
Assume she lost power.... drop the fucking anchor.
@Darkstarr-ud2goАй бұрын
Seriously, there’s MAGA on this ??? Get a life …
@oldschool1993Ай бұрын
@@Darkstarr-ud2go Not sure what MAGA has to do with New Zealand, except that Trump is the father figure you hate- the guy who told you to turn off the video game, clean your room and get a job. Now if you were a voter in USA, you would have Kamala who is the embodiment of your first grade teacher who gave you participation trophies for finishing last in the crayon contest.
@chrisnoname2725Ай бұрын
@@Darkstarr-ud2goWhat has MAGA got to do with things on this side of the world? Not everyone is just copying your thing. You’re not considered as special as you like to think.
@oooBASTIoooАй бұрын
They want to save money by buying a ship, valued at about 20 million USD, for about 100 million USD, then put the DEI hire in charge ^^ Clown world!
@philorkillАй бұрын
I hope the investigation is not shallow.
@SouthBurnettShireCountySheriffАй бұрын
Lol
@partymanauАй бұрын
There wont be one. DEIs are untouchable.
@kajchristensen3701Ай бұрын
Could be a rocky journey i feel 😅
@wyattfamily8997Ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath. It may take some time to decide which male to blame.
@ebutuoY_kcuFАй бұрын
😅😅😅
@johnhanson1stАй бұрын
Captain saved 75 lives, reduced the navy future operating expenses, and created an artificial reef. Captain is hero!
@iesusegoconfidoinvobis4309Ай бұрын
I have no doubt she will be promoted to admiral!
@oceanmarinerАй бұрын
@@iesusegoconfidoinvobis4309 Another DEI success!
@jimballantine4408Ай бұрын
I have remarked on the new reef but the irony is it hit an old style reef to make a new reef😂
@jarimiettinen779Ай бұрын
Captain is completely unprofessional. DEI, DEI, and then not okey.
@oldiewave2640Ай бұрын
Not exactly saving lives when you put them in danger to begin with lmao
@paulthomson2288Ай бұрын
This is still the only channel that has provided any known facts and presented in an impartial manner. I doubt NZ media will ever present any of these facts. I hope you can follow up this clip with any new information in a part 2. Standard of journalism in NZ is abysmal and unreliable.
@robertperrotto870Ай бұрын
The damning information is the current, windspeed, and failure to drop the anchor (if power loss is true). The first two would not have floated the ship shoreward, a gentle breeze on a multi ton ship, with the current going perpendicular to the island, does not add up mathematically to running towards the island. Second, the reef was charted, the ship specialized in sonar graphics, and it has a GPS system to give exact longitude and latitude, the OOD done screwed the pooch, along with the ship's captain. Gender/orientation/political ideology will not save her from the deserved relief for cause, and subsequent forced retirement.
@captainsensiblejr.Ай бұрын
As an New Zealader, I don't know about our Navy , but Judith Collins scares the crap out of me ...
@jimmyboy630Ай бұрын
An embarrassing and terrible loss for NZ, my country. Awesome video! Thank you 👍
@nnglndАй бұрын
Shame . Hopefully the next captain will be picked based on skills and experience. Not dei.
@KaneTaylor-z2xАй бұрын
terrible loss..hahahhaha..jesus our navy is embarassing and insignifigant
@secondchance6603Ай бұрын
We're so woke we have a ship that identifies as a submarine.
@simonchaplinАй бұрын
@@nnglnd 100% i hope
@leagueofotters2774Ай бұрын
Don't worry, the US could be on the verge of make a truly horrific DEI hire in a very high position that will quickly get this out of the public's conscious.
Toxic positivity has been wrecking a lot of stuff recently. Took $400million from Sony, $150million from NZ Navy.
@augustday9483Ай бұрын
"Don't worry Cap'n, we'll buff out those scratches." 🧽
@sambrown8224Ай бұрын
Retired USCG Marine investigator/inspector here. Morning Sal. Looking at that track line and the AIS data suggests one thing, this vessel was on autopilot and no one was monitoring the progress of the vessel. The vessel never changed speed or course when approaching the coast, crossed into shallow water and drove straight into the shore. Also in regards to a loss of power, thats the fastest "loss of power" vessel I've ever seen. It's like no one on board even knew the island was there.
@iatsdАй бұрын
@sambrown8224 >>Retired USCG Marine investigator/inspector here. Morning Sal. Looking at that track line and the AIS data suggests one thing, this vessel was on autopilot and no one was monitoring the progress of the vessel.
@ncox001Ай бұрын
which, unfortunately, suggests incompetence or negligence on the part of the navigator/CO
@paulmulvaney5007Ай бұрын
I like your points made. I'm writing a report here in NZ. On the Breakfast show interview I heard NZ Defence Minister Judith Collins suggest a power outage may have caused the ship to run aground. A Power Outage? Doesn't sound like a natural thing to cause a ship to sink so quickly to me! Were the crucial Power Management Systems-PMS and Dynamic Positioning-DP2 operations met? What were the contingency plans in place? There will be a Court of Inquiry led by NZ Defence Force into the incident. I'm a member of Taxpayers' Union lobby group & agree there will be conjecture on the cause of the sinking so there must be transparency. Samoa & its Pacific Island neighbours and all other small island developing states are particularly vulnerable to the adverse impacts of climate change. It's well documented sea level rise and the changing climatic conditions threatens the regions land, livelihoods, ecosystems (marine greatly) and their culture. With increased known changes a check of the ships compass was required. Geomagnetic energies may have changed magnetic north!.
@sambrown8224Ай бұрын
@@ncox001 As an investigator, my job was not to point fingers. We had a simple role: Find out the details, determine the root cause, find a way to prevent it from happening again. I don't like to accuse people of wrongdoing, but the facts wont lie and they WILL point somewhere.
@thosoz3431Ай бұрын
Power outage? Drop anchor.
@jigsaw6954Ай бұрын
The Captain was appointed not because of merit but because of politics, this is the results of this.
@willemhaifetz-chen1588Ай бұрын
The captain / commander / skipper is always responsible.
@stoerenungeheuer543Ай бұрын
The same goes for a skipper. I like this challenge, for example when I ferry people across the river. I am responsible for their safety and the safety of other traffic.
@WALTERBROADDUSАй бұрын
Unfortunately presidents don't meet at standard.
@-ScottyАй бұрын
The captain was a woke lesbian karen..
@windwardhavenАй бұрын
True, unless you're a DEI hire
@missourimongoose8858Ай бұрын
But it's a lesbian so....
@Strickey25Ай бұрын
The New Zealand Navy had a dedicated survey ship from 1949 to 1975, HMNZS Lachlan, she was second hand, she was old, the first NZ navy ship with a flight deck and she carried 3 inshore survey vessels and she did the job unceremoniously and with pride and efficiency, punching above her weight,I know because I served on her in 1968 and 1969.
@BWT268Ай бұрын
Thank you for your service 🍻
@awumaАй бұрын
Indeed, I remember her well. Back in the days of "Black Prince" , "Royalist" and "Hawea", all of which also called in at my hometown of New Plymouth IIRC.
@weightednormal3682Ай бұрын
This is why I pay 35% income tax, 50% fuel tax, and 15% goods and services tax in NZ + property rates and police service which only job is to collect speeding fines for going 53 in a 50 zone. There is a camera on every corner. All up its likely 50% tax here. It really helps so we can afford to pay for all the diversity.
@EXZACHTPERFORMANCEАй бұрын
It's 58% of our wages go to tax in Australia and we are marginally less fked than you so you'd actually be paying 60%+ in tax my friend.
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingАй бұрын
rainbow power my man, only the beginning
@soulsphere9242Ай бұрын
@@EXZACHTPERFORMANCE I don't know anyone paying 58% tax in Australia.
@bobsemple9341Ай бұрын
@@soulsphere9242we care?
@soulsphere9242Ай бұрын
@@bobsemple9341 my point being the statement is BS.
@surfleetsurfer6370Ай бұрын
Incompetence. Pure and simple. Pure talent on your part, Ms Captain.
@lifeintheriver342Ай бұрын
"May this ship be symbolic of New Zealand," Jacinda Ardern, 2019
@ingeborgpostelnik4748Ай бұрын
had to laugh out loud!
@ianhelyar6383Ай бұрын
@@ingeborgpostelnik4748 Absolutely! 🙂
@cathybrind2381Ай бұрын
And of course it is......
@somerandomgoogleuser3374Ай бұрын
@@cathybrind2381Yea, just fecking Woke. We're fecked here.... Use 2B an awesome country.....
@cthliteАй бұрын
Neighed the horse
@murrayappleton4106Ай бұрын
A kiwi here, well done with the pronunciation of the name of this vessel. The Commander is ultimately responsible for this debacle.
@Ari_00XАй бұрын
you are not allowed to say that - she is LGBTQ - !!
@flyinkiwi01Ай бұрын
Accountability? Yes, well we will see won’t we.
@jemma_19988Ай бұрын
The commander is a" progressive " just like the shps sponsor!!
@misiknuoАй бұрын
@@dfinlen They allready spin it,they used words like... it was a 'triumph"they little lesbian Female Capetain diversity stunt cost them one ship..there is one more female Capetian that damaged another ship..
@gtestastretta1Ай бұрын
100%…a total disgrace
@BrendonSmith-e9vАй бұрын
I learned more from your presentation than I did from my Government. Thanks!!
@ybet1000Ай бұрын
Reason for the grounding unknown? They were doing hydrographical surveys.. IE they were mapping the ground to show where its safe to travel etc.. Given these FACTS .. how do you run aground.. except by shear incompetence. The samoans seem to reach the islands safely 3500 years ago.. the europeans 200 years ago.. they had all the mod cons and still run aground?
@imnowhackoАй бұрын
I saw this ship all day Saturday, cruising around 3 km. back and forth east/west. I also saw one emergency flare later that night, about 9 pm, but I didn't know that it was from this ship. On Sunday morning I saw on FB that the crew was rescued overnight with no more details. So about 8:30 am I searched the coast to see if I could see the vessel, and I did locate it to the west of my position, listing and a lot of smoke coming from it. Next time I looked for it a few hours later, it was gone. The beautiful clear water on this island did not need a bunch of crap being dumped into it from this ship.
@hugolindum7728Ай бұрын
It will eventually be a great reef if left in situ.
@JamesThomas-kx5sjАй бұрын
@@hugolindum7728Not really. Artificial reefs are cleaned before sinking. This ship is leaking tons of toxic fluids into the water plus it severely damaged the coral.
@DurzoBluntsАй бұрын
New artificial reef 😅
@ducker09Ай бұрын
CRUSHER called it an incident. The just sunk the bloody ship . And she calls it an incident. Stubbing your toe is an incident crusher . What she did was sunk our ship . Namely a disaster😮
@GizziiusaАй бұрын
one involving incompetence at that.
@rowansholeАй бұрын
@@Gizziiusa an appropriate name for a guy joining the incel group wank over a lesbian in uniform
@goldsharktoothАй бұрын
totally agree... its a shocker !!!!
@Nunya9876Ай бұрын
Is this considered intentional grounding?
@geoffhoutman1557Ай бұрын
5 yard penalty, replay the down
@gunt-herАй бұрын
Stop defending the captain guys. You're in command because you're supposed to know better, and this is an embarrassing way to lose your ship.
@darbyoharaАй бұрын
It’s not her fault! She’s just a woman! There was lots of switches and buttons 😂
@perryallan3524Ай бұрын
That has yet to be determined. If the ship lost power it may not be her fault. There may be other factors as well. Let's wait for the investigative report to be at least semi-finalized before jumping to conclusions.
@lylesleisureАй бұрын
They have to protect their positions of power. If new Zealand found out the ship sank because of incompetents.. Someone might think dei is bad.
@richardwillson101Ай бұрын
Without knowing what happened, you can't exactly blame the captain? What about the officer of the watch? What about the rest of the "skilled" crew on board? Until we get more details, why bad mouth the captain? I don't want to defend them if they did wrong. But nobody has that information yet. For starters, we don't actually know what the vessel was tasked with at the time. It could have been a sanctioned high risk operation. Or she was simply incompetent and unable to manage the vessel and crew. But again, we don't know.
@jamstagerableАй бұрын
@@perryallan3524 Most people will wait for the investigation to be finalized like waiting for Diddy to see his day in court, before coming to any conclusions.
@chazzmichaelmichaels5766Ай бұрын
A ship without a depth finder? I am shocked in the age of GPS this could happen!
@Autorange888Ай бұрын
She could not READ the depth finder.
@UMADtouchgrassАй бұрын
A lesb woman was in command what you expect
@rogerprout5574Ай бұрын
Captain, you're FIRED!
@willemhaifetz-chen1588Ай бұрын
From the faces of the crew on the beach - somebody fucked up big time.
@mediocreman2Ай бұрын
Yeah, the captain.
@olanderdecastro52Ай бұрын
They do have that “ what in the world was the NZ Navy thinking when they commissioned a schoolmarm to be a ships captain?” kind of look on their face don’t they?
@GAZZA55Ай бұрын
nah thats the new cast for treasure island.
@minime8048Ай бұрын
yeah the pictures shows all 75 of them being rescued.... i lost count after 21.. can some one help me with that ??
@Tugger_1Ай бұрын
@@minime8048 they ran out of black ink to put over their eyes so they stayed out of the photo
@bigtoad45Ай бұрын
What a top heavy tub. And of course leave it to New Zealand to use the Helen Keller Hydrographic survey by Braille method.... "Captain Philpot Sir, we've hit a reef!". "Good Malarkey, mark it on the map."......
@redback38Ай бұрын
@@bigtoad45 haha funny👍
@michaelbishop7654Ай бұрын
Oh, you're talking about the ship. I thought you were talking about the New Zealand Defense Minister.
@lightweight1974Ай бұрын
@@michaelbishop7654Same.
@AlexMcNZАй бұрын
Hey! I'm a kiwi and I resent that remark! There was nothing wrong with the boats design 😂
@AdamCurrey-iy8hkАй бұрын
Haha
@anthony9thompsonАй бұрын
I would love to hear from the Captains former colleagues from the RN and her performance
@norman-str3ss88Ай бұрын
if she made captain in the Royal Navy, she must have been competent... met a lot of them and if the UK can do something, it's train naval officers.
@ExpatGringoАй бұрын
It would be the LAST thing they ever did, before being court-martialed and disappeared!
@antonysaundersAMGАй бұрын
Absolute nonsense! Were seeing DEI hires all over the world in some very high places making fools of themselves@norman-str3ss88
@wyattfamily8997Ай бұрын
She was never a Captain in the R.N.
@antonysaundersAMGАй бұрын
@@norman-str3ss88 rubbish! That's a baseless assumption.
@CgopatАй бұрын
In 2019, at the ship's commissioning, Prime Minister Ardern stated; " “My responsibility as the sponsor of the ship will cover the 15 years Manawanui will dedicate in the service to New Zealand, and I take that role very seriously." 5 years later the ship sinks. 15 years of service was a bit overly optimistic.
@jodypoelzer3046Ай бұрын
No matter the cause of the unfortunate accident the captain/master of the vessel is responsible!
@kevinansley7353Ай бұрын
No sonar, no radar, no watch, what in hell happened to naval dicipline and where was damage control?
@thehedgeknightnc3681Ай бұрын
"You can't park there!"
@multitablez7825Ай бұрын
You can't dock there
@bluedragontoybash2463Ай бұрын
she did turned on the hazard light ?
@daveryan6624Ай бұрын
You go girl.
@Autorange888Ай бұрын
And down she went.
@USMCArchAngel03Ай бұрын
That part of the world if famous for those sneaky reefs. In fact there's so many that you even have to look at the map sometimes!
@guyrosinbaum7745Ай бұрын
Chart
@andrewtaylor940Ай бұрын
Maps are racist and sexist
@robwilcox9296Ай бұрын
True. I was on a ship that tried to shortcut through some known reefs and bumped one of those sneaky reefs and bent a propshaft. The propshaft was 9 inches OD.
@suestreet9934Ай бұрын
I wonder how the charts happen
@USMCArchAngel03Ай бұрын
@@guyrosinbaum7745 Of course, Apologies. I'm Infantry.
@Seminal_IdeasАй бұрын
The distress signal wasn't S.O.S, it was D.E.I.
@Damien8888Ай бұрын
Yeah, SHE hit the reef, but SHE saved lives. The illogic of the MSM on this entire debacle.
@MoonayMultipliarАй бұрын
No accountability Its always politics mixed in these affairs that make militaries fail. Stalin started winning the war once he let competent people take control that he had removed prior. With our current set up, we will experience some loosing prior to promoting based on competency and merit again.
@GabrielGarcia-lw4tbАй бұрын
Dei truly sucks doesnt it @@MoonayMultipliar
@daedalus7677Ай бұрын
@@GabrielGarcia-lw4tb Apparently !
@colonelfustercluck486Ай бұрын
she saved 75 lives apparently. About 43 more than the ships normal crew level. Now that's results.
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthingАй бұрын
the MSM is ran by the government dude
@stekarknugen9258Ай бұрын
New Zealand navy: "We did NOT lose the ship because the captain was a woman!" No, you lost it because the captain was incompetent.
@gamera5160Ай бұрын
People are not mad that she’s a woman, they’re mad because she’s incompetent and are concerned that she was given her position because of DEI concerns instead of merit.
@cthliteАй бұрын
In a nutshell
@WeshopwizardАй бұрын
Everyone said I was daft to build a ship on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest ship in all of New Zealand.
@chrisenlow3117Ай бұрын
Ah, Monte Python.
@jubeaumont6305Ай бұрын
Is that because shes from Yorkshire ?
@olpaint71Ай бұрын
You beat me to it. That's the first thing I thought of when Sal ran through the sequence of aground, caught fire, capsized, and sank. :)
@phatzgundersonАй бұрын
SPAM
@TheGor54Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@donaldcatton4028Ай бұрын
And the lady Captain was eventually found on the shore blaming men....in between bouts of wailing and weeping...
@MattStirling-k8dАй бұрын
We get zero information in New Zealand on this so thank you for your summary and nonjudgmental advice and what could’ve gone wrong. Cheers.
@ekimstrongcup602910 күн бұрын
I read about on telegram LORD BEBO.
@otiebrown999928 күн бұрын
Let me state the obvious facts, presented here. 1) Ship set sail, at a rate of 5 knots 2) Ship on automatic control. 3) Ship kept sailing until dark, until it was stopped by the island Samoa. ========= Have i missed any fact or truth here. Was the captain paying attention to anything? Did she have LOOK OUTS POSTED? Was anyone looking at Radar, as the island approached. Did Yvonne consult with other officers, for plans as they approached the island of Samoa. ( Like we will stay off shore, until the sun rise, AND WE CAN SEE WHAT THE HELL WE ARE DOING!!)
@geraldmurphy7669Ай бұрын
Would be interested in a voice recording from the bridge leading up to this.
@tomrogers9467Ай бұрын
Bitching and whining as usual”!
@SeaJay_OceansАй бұрын
Accidentally deleted, & ships cameras lost power & are broken.. :-/
@jjmckay6man1Ай бұрын
Don't tell me where to drive this ship, I'm captain. Full speed ahead. I know where I'm going.
@MAXIMUSMINIMALISTАй бұрын
That will never see the light of day thanks to the fascists in New Zealand protecting their diversity hire
@wendyg8536Ай бұрын
@@SeaJay_Oceans ... so foul play then
@donnamarie3617Ай бұрын
Thank you from NZ. Great to hear the actual story.
@lyricallyunwaxable1234Ай бұрын
NZ navy oceanography ship sunk by anemone attack.
@NedNZАй бұрын
Another Kiwi here. This Captain was a Jacinda Ardern DEI hire. Just sayin"
@lyricallyunwaxable1234Ай бұрын
@@NedNZ Any superstitious mariner worth their salt will tell you, the ship was renamed under a cursed star
@johnrday2023Ай бұрын
How could hydrographic survey ship hit a well-charted reef in calm weather, catch on fire and then sink? Fortunatly all Royal New Zealand navy personnell were rescued and safe !!!
@katyasilentiumАй бұрын
They are not telling the true story
@jjgreybeardАй бұрын
It can when piloted by an incompetent DEI hire. This is unprecedented...
@tonycoker6523Ай бұрын
There was Malfunction before it hit the reef and sank so it drifted onto the reef . End of the day best to wait for the result of the inquiry before passing Judgement. As a former N.Z Navy Seaman this is a major shock.
@jjmckay6man1Ай бұрын
@@tonycoker6523 the malfunction happened long before the ship hit the reef lol. The promoting of an idiot.
@danielch6662Ай бұрын
Listen to Sal. It is not uncommon for ships to catch fire and sink after they are abandoned. The question is should she have not given the order to abandon ship after it became obvious they were not getting the ship off the reef. Tides are predictable. I can imagine the sea level going down, and the ship tilting more and more, until it slipped off the reef. Question is, how many people dies in that instance, in a useless attempt to save $125m.
@Grouse227524 күн бұрын
The sad thing is it’s entirely possible her actions will very possibly be looked at differently…… this is unacceptable
@CallsItLikeISeizeItsАй бұрын
USN had same affliction years ago, multiple ships came down with Runagrounditis
@andrewtaylor940Ай бұрын
I thought the US Navy's problem was running into things. Cargo ships, etc.
@MarkD-pl4fuАй бұрын
But were those crews up to date in their diversity training?
@moappleseider1699Ай бұрын
@@andrewtaylor940 The US Navy has about 470 ships. NZ Navy has like 5 tug boats, a cruiser and a destroyer.
@MARKCARTLIDGE-sm3mzАй бұрын
If the usn ship was an LCS it wouldn't have hit the reef. It wouldn't have got there without breaking down or falling apart before it got any where near grounding. So it have been worse.😮
@CaptAppleАй бұрын
Which led to a rash of never commanding agains.
@SoundslikeauproblemАй бұрын
Thanks for this. So much more info than we’ve been given here in NZ
@jackmehoffer7819Ай бұрын
She was trying to parallel park.
@alejandropacheco7832Ай бұрын
Hey come on now!!.... It was a fair mistake, anyone can confuse the bridge for the kitchen! 😂😂😂
@steveperreira5850Ай бұрын
The New Zealand Navy is a joke, literally. Put more women in charge, make it a bigger joke. Don’t forget to add the transgender captains. Absolute farce.
@lenerdcruzАй бұрын
Hillarious!
@thekenthouse6428Ай бұрын
Her ability to do that was equal to her map reading skills.
@Mostlypeaceful896Ай бұрын
NZ Police will come to check my thinking if i laugh at this
@sargeanttater329527 күн бұрын
Thank you for having an apolitical view on this. I've seen three too many people saying it was the captain being lesbian and a woman.
@HoneyBadger80886Ай бұрын
Good report. Wind and sea conditions were appreciated.
@tickticktickBOOOOMАй бұрын
My uncle was a helmsman in the US Navy. He once got commended for refusing to obey a direct order from the OOD. If he had obeyed her(!), the ship would've grounded. Thankfully, the captain was quickly called to the bridge and countermanded her. If she had been instead, my uncle would've wound up in the brig and the Navy would've been down a ship.
@revpgesqreduxАй бұрын
My Dad was on two subs...once the guy responsible for the planes messed up and put them on the bottom. They got away without damage, and after they recovered, there was a beat down, all officially approved
@tickticktickBOOOOMАй бұрын
@@revpgesqredux Sadly this captain isn't gonna get the blanket party she deserves.
@edwinovАй бұрын
"her"... no surprises there
@lunam7249Ай бұрын
👏👏👏❤️❤️awesome uncle! in the usa navy the code of conduct states you must disobey an order that would cause direct and obvious damage to ship or crew....under the constitution and navy protocol the order was "treasonous"
@lakoncers13Ай бұрын
The first woman captain in New Zealand military was in charge of the ship
@goodkeboАй бұрын
I work on the ocean for a living. From the details I see in the video. The current and wind should have seemed kept the ship traveling along shore but not on to the rocks. The swell probably did the pushing, especially once the ship was in shallower waters. The swell looks like it is coming from a southerly direction in the video which would nudge the vessel on the reef. Not sure why they couldn't get the anchor(s) out, I could see the engineering crew getting overwhelmed with trying diagnose and get the engine(s) restarted knowing they might only have minutes to work (if they had a power failure). This is a not so large vessel and many of the crew and officers may have had crossover duties. The engineers may have normally helped with the anchors. Anchoring is basic to surviving on a vessel. I don't know what happened there. I feel many modern mariners don't practice anchoring unless it is part of their routine job. A proper budget matters and maintenance is king. A mariner is a mariner, the ocean does not treat men and women differently. We will find out the answers from the official inquiries in time.
@hanzzel6086Ай бұрын
The problem is, she was (according to several Kiwi mariners/former Navy personal in this comment section), easily the best/second best maintained ship in the fleet due to her age (she was a fairly new ship) and prominence in the Navy (she had frequent maintenance cycles and all the old crew spoke well of her condition).
@tonyryan43Ай бұрын
The NZ Government is never going to accept that its policy of Inclusiveness, Celebrating Diversity, Aquiesence to Feminism, and Affirmative Action; were the cause of this disaster.
@rjmjr410Ай бұрын
Concise, objective analysis of a maritime event, utilizing a lifetime of experience. This is why so many of us follow you Sal. Always appreciate your work. Thank you!
@tigarxoxАй бұрын
Seems negligent being close to a well known reef. That’s a lot of valuable equipment lost.
@sgtbrown4273Ай бұрын
Not to mention the HORRIBLE damage to that economy system.
@CraigMichael-z3vАй бұрын
It's a blow for tourism for Samoans
@muhdiversity7409Ай бұрын
I see a promotion in the Captain's future. It is New Zealand after all.
@NateWall-ms7qvАй бұрын
NO FUCKING SHIT
@bjorntorlarssonАй бұрын
"- You take the rudder, darling." "- No! I've had enough of the rudder. I've had it for at least an hour now." "- But I had it for two hours before that, it's only fair." "- You forget about last week!!"
@bradpnw1897Ай бұрын
DEI Didn't Earn It More than 100 years ago they would send down a weighted rope from a smaller boat to see how deep it was. Let alone a small boat with sonar on it. No matter what this fall squarely in only on the captain. That Captain he she it is no hero.
@duotronic6451Ай бұрын
"Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water." None of this 'captain goes down with the ship' out of sheer embarrassment stuff.
@USMCArchAngel03Ай бұрын
"Grounded, caught fire, keeled over, then sank beneath the water." In the old days that's what would have happened to a captain's career after an incident like this. But now..?
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately she’s a lesbian who often mentions her husband and her pronouns 😢😢😢
@mdt105Ай бұрын
When the most notable event of your career sounds like a Monty Python skit, you know you're in trouble.
@deanfirnatine7814Ай бұрын
DEI in action
@deanfirnatine7814Ай бұрын
@@USMCArchAngel03 She checks multiple DEI boxes she will be fine
@eecarolineeАй бұрын
I hereby venture the speculation that people are WAY too used to blindly relying on electronic navigation. Failure to do basic visual navigation in restricted waters is probably going to be part of the problem. Former QMOW/navigator watchstander.... USCG.... back in he 1970s. Served on a 210', we calibrated the Loran C system with visual nav... such as three arm protractors and horizontal sextant angles. Super accurate. Watching people stare at screens and do zero visual double-checking is mind-boggling level of trust in a single system when near to shore. Or so it seem to me.
@CaptRRАй бұрын
Or the command crew was incompetent.
@andyb.1026Ай бұрын
Absolutely and Totally agree.. I'm only UK RYA Ymo Com 😮
@Inkling777Ай бұрын
So a vessel that constitutes half the tonnage of the entire New Zealand navy is operating near reefs, some of them uncharted, and yet it runs aground. That is hard to explain. -In the days of wooden sailing ships, someone would be at the bow of the ship throwing a line to measure the depth. Today they have depth gauges that work even better. And given the risky circumstances, why wasn't a small boat going ahead of this ship and radioing back the depth? There seems to be an incredible lack of foresight here.
@NighthawkNZАй бұрын
rubbish Aotearoa is 26,000 tonnes, Canturbery 9000 tonnes, and each frigate about 3000 tonnes each
@andrewtaylor940Ай бұрын
The ships mission was literally charting the reefs. She was equipped with all the best sensors to see and map the reefs. So it's not like she was operating blind.
@kc10flteng1Ай бұрын
"...half the tonnage of the entire New Zealand navy..." - I am STILL lying on the floor laughing hysterically!
@olpaint71Ай бұрын
@@andrewtaylor940 But the nature of her duties required operating near reefs and other underwater obstructions. So while she was well equipped to avoid the hazards, but probability of occurrence is a function of both proximity and time. It will be interesting to see what the investigation eventually concludes.
@andrewtaylor940Ай бұрын
@@olpaint71 True to a point. But she just lost a Capital Ship of an ocean going navy, specifically equipped for and currently actively tasked with mapping those reefs. In what would appear to be calm clear weather conditions and a fairly minor sea state. Grounding the ship badly enough to not simply entrap the ship, but resulting in an all hands evacuation, uncontrollable fires, listing leading to the ships rollover and complete loss. The only comparable incident I can think of is the 2018 loss of the Norwegian Navy frigate HNoMS Helge Ingstad in a collision with an oil tanker. If you ever find the final reports on that one the incident is horrifying in its root cause. Which was elevating diversity over actual merit or fitness for duty. In that case the entire bridge crew was an “all female, first of its kind” sort of deal. As the Norwegian Navy strove for gender parity in a job category that does not see a lot of female applicants. So any such applicants were taken and promoted to meet quotas, regardless of ability. Until they got them all on the same bridge… and a decision needed to be made. Here is the situation they faced. They were on an obvious collision course with the tanker. No question if they stayed on their plotted course they would collide. And the tanker could not avoid them. Their only option for turning in time would take them into an area of water that the rules said they should not go. Because depending on tides there was a risk of grounding. So their choices were “absolute 100% certainty of collision with another heavier vessel!” Or “possibility of grounding the ship”. Want to guess which one they went with? Because grounding the ship would look bad on their records. They apparently argued about this until they hit the tanker. Resulting in the sinking of 20% of the Norwegian Navy. Yeah, we need to wait on the final reports on this one. But it’s pretty clear at a glance that there were some staggering levels of gross incompetence of leadership with this one. Because these aren’t 18th Century sailing vessels. And any modern military (that is not Russian) should be capable of sufficient damage control to avoid the loss of the ship. Short of hitting an undiscovered WW2 Sea Mine, there really isn’t any possibility here that doesn’t scream total incompetence.
@fiddleback156824 күн бұрын
I think she's earned an award for catastrophic ship loss.
@GaryLee-qh4hoАй бұрын
Thankyou for your indepth input, and also you very kind words towards the end of the video!!! Being ex Pat Royal Navy Sailor down here in NZ, I hadnt been able to green much info, on an otherwise embarrassing situation, and being quite remote, and the weekend which slows things down, I found your report quite helpful. Cheers!!
@BonannoCMАй бұрын
That's one ugly ship. It hit the reef out of sheer embarrassment.
@calthorpАй бұрын
The thing about owning such a ship is, anything you add to it will make it look better!
@craigmooney3744Ай бұрын
140 million ! they saw jacinta comming😂 did it come with beautiful rust streaks?
@BonannoCMАй бұрын
@@craigmooney3744 Something tells me the previous owner had lost interest, and left it to deteriorate at anchor without a crew for a substantial amount of time, or the new owner didn't care. As someone who spent four years as crew aboard a nuclear attack carrier, I find the latter scenario deeply disturbing.
@darthkek1953Ай бұрын
The lesbian captain is no oil painting either.
@calthorpАй бұрын
@@craigmooney3744 when they sold it to the navy they sent them pictures of when it was new. The navy was so embarrassed when they got it they slapped cheap navy grey paint over them.
@sailorgabbieАй бұрын
I worked on RAINIER and FAIRWEATHER. both vessels 50 years old and slated to be replaced (i believe those are under construction). The survey launches are 29' aluminum prop driven with Cummins diesels. Full suite of electronics and even a head. Very capable boats. They go out a full 8 to 10 hour day because 50 gallons of diesel lasts when surveying. One of my YT videos is on RAINIER as we depart San Francisco.
@albertosantamaria8370Ай бұрын
From Chile, congratulations to the New Zealand Navy. Please invite the Russian and Chinese navies to train with you.
@paulus7137Ай бұрын
If her quick thinking and wit helped her to make the decision to evacuate the ship, why didn't it help her to prevent it from running aground?
@garynew9637Ай бұрын
Positive spin lol
@jayhoney2422Ай бұрын
She touched base to soon... 14:37
@ExcretumTaurumАй бұрын
current reporting is that it lost power first
@jjgreybeardАй бұрын
That's how they spin the story. Utterly miserable failure is now suddenly quick thinking that saved lives....
@tommooe4524Ай бұрын
Good point.
@kingrichard728Ай бұрын
Good video. Just one point, HMNZS Aotearoa is the largest ship in the fleet
@wgowshippingАй бұрын
My apologies. And Canterbury is a bit larger by tonnage.
@Rooxie973Ай бұрын
@@wgowshipping"HMNZS Aotearoa is significantly larger and designed for logistical support and Antarctic operations, while the HMNZS Canterbury is focused on amphibious and sealift capabilities"
@patkelly6349Ай бұрын
Are the about the size of a manly ferry. Lol. The kiwis need to be investigated regarding their accents also. Shocking
@user-ih7gc7dt9lАй бұрын
@@patkelly6349funny coming from an Australian 😂
@jubeaumont6305Ай бұрын
Well, it is now !
@EscapeePrisonerАй бұрын
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@otiebrown999920 күн бұрын
Why is it, that a 270 foot ship gets "run aground", and no one has a CLUE about how this happened?