whats beyond roblox's floating point zone?

soo... what happens when go really far out into robloxs floating point zone? thats what im here to answer today. anyways this took like 3-4 days to make so i hope you enjoy the video :D
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[@tristantheoofer2]

lol youtube hasnt finished uploading the hd version. anyways this took 3-4 days so i hope yall like it :D ALSO check the corrections bit in this comment sources and music below music: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3jaaGaBeNx3irc - kevin macleod: dirt rhodes kzbin.info/www/bejne/opnGi6GigrN1b6M - the whole other: ether oar kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4G6Xq2Njploosk - george and johnathan: whale kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKDcqIyAe6ugqpo - emily a. sprague: a slow dream credit to other ppl: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5qufYeLpbimmdE - NoobyX Tensegrity (couldnt find the channel again??) sources: all my own research corrections: 1. 0:49 it should say "multiplied by 2^(this -128)" (me) 2. the skybox starts flashing black at around 34 billion as @libanumbers7881 said, not 1 trillion 3. just found out the explosion sound isnt an easter egg its literally a thing in the model i used and didnt notice. bruh. everything else happens tho GAMES I USED since like 10000 people have asked lol: floating point test - www.roblox.com/games/9816382752/floating-point-test drive forever - www.roblox.com/games/8550695644/drive-forever robloxs fastest vehicle (no, not the good one) - www.roblox.com/games/8287259163/robloxs-fastest-vehicle

[@david_yoshiplush]

i have the same problem lol youtube takes 30 minutes to upload the hd version when my video is like 19 seconds long

[@neut_ro]

Well this helped... Now I can know how big my space game will be

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@neut_ro legit but realistically you should make it less than 67108864 studs so the floating point issues dont get too bad

[@bloxian.legend]

​@@tristantheoofer2here's an another glitch well I seen this infamous glitch called NaN well for an reason the character is gonna glitch and it's possible well NaN stands for Not a Number. If there's invisible brick that does that there's no way well the mph or the character or the car is gonna reach the highest to the highest it's gonna say nan or nan (ind) because you don't see the shadows they disappear and reappearing it maybe possibly to get this glitch if the game got hd say :fly me nan the rig and character animation well not move the text, shadows and the character disappear and the cameramovement is.not gonna move so test this out.

[@thatonemelody]

as it turns out, you can now reach the impossible! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnSph6GqfbGebpY (not my vid but roblox made a not too good mistake with r6)

[@Rpoti27]

2,147,483,647 isn’t actually a randomly chosen number, it’s actually the 32 bit integer limit, and 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,455 is the 128 bit integer limit, in fact a lot of these numbers that break some stuff actually either are integer limits, or halved or doubled integer limits

[@tristantheoofer2]

right but roblox used float32 instead of 64, so you can go to the 1024 bit integer on float64 but on float32 youre stuck at 128 due to floating point limitations. the real question tho is: why does it default to the 32 bit integer limit? is it because it uses that many bits for the number itself or what?

[@Rpoti27]

@@tristantheoofer2 idk, I find breaking game limitations kinda fun sometimes, I’ve never seen the skybox do that though

[@tristantheoofer2]

@Rpoti47 yep but it does do that. i actually discovered it on accident while fucking with roblox on my school pc and thought it was a ram issue bc those fuckers have 4gb of ram lmao. tested it on my phone after and it still happened

[@Rpoti27]

@@tristantheoofer2 interesting

[@tristantheoofer2]

indeed

[@pyrite101]

accidentally reached to the part where the skybox is black in build a boat

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait you actually got to 1 trillion? damn thats impressive

[@pyrite101]

im gonna try to recreate it

[@tristantheoofer2]

aight cool

[@ducksongfans]

i was on a rocket my friend made never got this far

[@tristantheoofer2]

@ducksongfans yeah getting that far is preeeetty fucking hard lol

[@masteroftheinternetverse1296]

I'm gonna make a guess as to why the explosion sound plays when you cross Roblox's true barrier. I think this happens because that's the sound the game makes whenever it deletes a part, and it's deleting the parts that make up the player in order to prevent a crash due to a random bit just outside of player position getting flipped.

[@tristantheoofer2]

holy fuck wait yeah in old roblox thats EXACTLY what it meant

[@aprilsanimation297]

Language pls

[@shadems222]

@@aprilsanimation297 shut up

[@tristantheoofer2]

nah@@aprilsanimation297

[@duckkinger]

​@@tristantheoofer2lol

[@Haystees]

Precision bugs aren’t caused by overflows and it’s just how floating point numbers are designed. We need them to represent really big and really small numbers, but when trying to allocate that with 32 bits we have to make some sacrifices (since we obviously cant represent every single number). Theres alot of precision on numbers closer to 0, but the further and further away we go, each step becomes larger and larger to accommodate for bigger numbers since if you are at something like 1.7x10^23, you most likely dont care about the extra decimal precision. I recommend watching jan misali’s video on the IEEE 784 standard if you want to learn more about how floats are constructed.

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeah thats what i was trying to say but didnt know how to do it lol

[@BananaGaming446]

I ain't reading all that

[@hanniaedithmartinezadame794]

Interesting, ty

[@Mizu2023]

After reaching an exponent of 2, the precision will get halfened. Even at the range of 0 to 1. The 32-bit floating point format can represent 16777216 thanks to the exponent part of the number, but it won't be able to represent 16777217 because that requires the mantissa to be 24 bits which is impossible in the 32-bit format. It can work in the 64-bit format though!(referred to as "double" in some stuff) The maximum safe number for the 64-bit format is also way bigger than the 32-bit one(which is 16777216)

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@Mizu2023 the max safe number is 9007199254740992 in doubles

[@JenniferThissell]

I used to play “walk on walls” games and sometimes I’d purposefully jump into the void and fall past the barriers. but now I know what causes this and how much further I could go. thanks.

[@tristantheoofer2]

np my dude

[@SpaceNebula69]

@@tristantheoofer2can i have chezburger ples

[@tristantheoofer2]

how do i give u a chezborger

[@SpaceNebula69]

@@tristantheoofer2 find mcdonalds then find my ip

[@JenniferThissell]

@@tristantheoofer2 I think it’s something to do with a bomb or something.

[@kjanahan3776]

the explosion / crashing sound when you hit the absolute limit explains why i heard it. I was so confused because i was messing around with the physics of my player, then just died randomly and heard the sound effect. pretty neat

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait is this on a different game? holy shit i actually discovered something then wow

[@kjanahan3776]

yeah. y players model position was nan@@tristantheoofer2

[@phoenixareospace4000]

8:55 that explosion was a paid actor

[@tristantheoofer2]

lmao yeah

[@Celxorth]

I found out about this a few years ago. Also Wolfenstein 3D (in DOS) has a similar effect to Minecraft's farlands when you leave the game's play area (whatever it's called), you should check out that too, there's barely anything about it online. But i'm not sure how far you can go since the game is ancient. Also congrats on beating cancer!

[@tristantheoofer2]

thank you and thanks for the video idea :D

[@amazeyourself_fan]

Minecraft before 1.17 had the farmlands if you went over 12 million blocks from spawn and the farmlands reach out to 1 billion blocks similar to the world border that Is at 30 million blocks nowadays.

[@vctsan3672]

@@tristantheoofer2C-c-cancer? CaNcEr!?!

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@vctsan3672 wat

[@Unchecked69]

this guy really likes reaching the limits of games

[@tristantheoofer2]

yes i do indeed and i need to find more games to do this stuff with lol

[@Unchecked69]

@@tristantheoofer2 fortnuts¿

[@tristantheoofer2]

what

[@Unchecked69]

@@tristantheoofer2 fortnite

[@tristantheoofer2]

ok

[@xdkristofsaltacc]

Today I have learned that I have once gone past 1 trillion studs away from spawn in an admin game without teleporting.

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait how?

[@xdkristofsaltacc]

@@tristantheoofer2 ;speed 99999999999999999999999999999999999999 or however many fucking 9's you want, then angle yourself perfectly and hit a TINY bump in the ground, smaller than the size of an asshair my screen was flashing so much that it might have even been past 1 quadrillion studs ngl

[@tristantheoofer2]

@xdkristofsaltacc holy shit yeah that would DEFINITELY do it. actually if only went forward for 1 second at that speed then you wouldve gone that many studs, so 10 duodecillion which is damn near the limit

[@xdkristofsaltacc]

@@tristantheoofer2 HOLY FUCKITY FUCK FUCK yeah needless to say nobody belived me 💀💀

[@creationisntgood942]

​@@tristantheoofer2 I've reached a bit over a quadrillion studs by doing what @xdkristofsaltacc described, I know that's how far I was because I used a coordinate map.

[@ChromaNyan]

the glitches caused by stupid amounts of floating point precision loss have always been fascinating to me, i wonder if it's even possible for a game to be immune to this (maybe by using an integer or a long for coordinates? though that would add a hard limit before the world wraps around which also isn't good)

[@tristantheoofer2]

no its impossible for it to be immune unless you use bigdecimal or some shit which is really fuckin laggy anyway

[@ChromaNyan]

@@tristantheoofer2 if you just use integers (which lack decimal places at all and aren't subjected to issues that floats have) then there's no way to have floating point errors like this, but then the drawback is that the size of the area has to be very small i believe there are some games which do precisely that, but they're few and far between

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@ChromaNyan yeah bc some games just... dont need that precision. tho yeah you ARE limited to abt 9223372036854775808 in each direction

[@someoneidk3358]

you could just move the world and not the player (so the tris only break far away from the origin point)

[@ChromaNyan]

@@someoneidk3358 while this would work, it would immediately stop working if you wanted to make it multiplayer, and physics calculations would also likely end up being weird

[@s_v__]

The reason your character is teleported to at this number at 8:44 is not a coincidence. This number is the 32 bit integer limit, you are teleported here because all integer values in lua are 32-bit integers. (I believe they are always handled this way because 64-bit integers were only added as a subtype in lua 5.3, while luau is based on lua 5.1). So it's not actually the game's physics engine that is causing you to teleport there, instead, it is the script that is teleporting you there that causes you to teleport at the 32-bit integer limit.

[@tristantheoofer2]

so what i think personally is that the 32 bit float changed back to a 32 bit integer to prevent a crash. would that make sense?

[@Mizu2023]

Yeah but the positions are 32bit floating point numbers where you have 24 bits to represent something and you can put a "decimal" dot in anywhere using the exponent, exponent also multiplies the result by 2 to the power of the exponent

[@Holistacia]

i managed to get to 67 million stud stage of glitching (level 7 in your video) in the game build a boat for treasure somehow! it was really fun discovering this floating point zone myself, simply putting hundreds of rocket thrusters together and launching myself into oblivion

[@tristantheoofer2]

lol that actually sounds like a pretty awesome time

[@user-pu4kt1mb4x]

i once did a glitch to go to the null zone and got addicted to trying it in every game possible, i just watched as i became flat, then turned to a bunch of squares, then triangles, then became one single triangle, back to a square, and then just left reality and disappeared (edit) also i think it depends on hardware or the game, cuz i never had my camera refuse to work nor the skybox ever become black in the many many times i've gone to the null zone

[@President_Valentin3]

How did you do the glitch?

[@tristantheoofer2]

if your camera never have or the skybox didnt turn black you didnt go to 2147483647 atleast. you probs went fucking ridiculously far, like 131 million, but not far enough for any real issues to occur :P

[@MarloTheBlueberry]

how did you do that?

[@LexcylYT]

Same with the Nimbus emote, it's fun to do it.

[@jebbecausejeb]

There’s a game called Roblox’s fastest vehicle I believe, and it’s a great showcase of this effect, as it sends you out past any barriers super fast, allowing you to fall infinitely and showcase this effect quite well.

[@tristantheoofer2]

yea ive played it before and its great. my record is abt 10 trillion btw

[@petir_but_wierd]

@@tristantheoofer2 thanks for giving me a life goal

[@C_Corpze]

I wonder if floating point error can be used as a retro effect in Roblox. It reminds me of old pre-2000 games where computer hardware was still very limited so some games were very jittery and had their polygons and triangles always snap to some rounded position.

[@tristantheoofer2]

actually that would be pretty cool

[@NeonBeeCat]

Cruelty Squad

[@AurytisX]

I've reached extremely far once and accidentally discovered the floating point. I originally called it the null zone (back then i was 7 I didn't know much but I have experienced all of these different variations of the floating point and once when I was like 11 I got to the furthest point where my screen was flashing black and white and then just turned to darkness and that was it. I was so freaked out back then)

[@GamerKaiden]

how 💀

[@AurytisX]

@@GamerKaiden no clue but if i remeber i plsyed some tycoon and some item glitched me out 😭

[@PointOfExclemation]

same

[@Cirnothegoober]

Achievement unlocked: How did we get here?

[@AurytisX]

@@Cirnothegoober LMAO

[@core3gamegd587]

not sure if it was just a mistake, but they don't overflow its that as it gets bigger they can show less numbers. so when your at 0,0 it can be within 1/2^127 units, but as you go further out that main chunk of 23 bits isn't enough to make it smooth anymore so a tiny change in it could move you from 1/2^127 units, to a full unit or more. also congrats on beating cancer :> edit: I need to get into the habit of watching the video before trying to correct the intro 💀

[@cewla3348]

um, acsktually, it's because floating point to integer conversion is really scuffed - it's why computers think 1+1=2.000000000000000000003. Basically, there's pretty much no exact integer values as the precision decreases in a strange way the further away from 0 you get, that's why it's called floating point (the decimal point is 'floating'). This also happens in geometry dash, where the numbers get so large that the next floating point number is more than one away.

[@tristantheoofer2]

how does it happen in geometry dash?

[@doge-oz5cl]

​@@tristantheoofer2this is actually pretty funny. But yeah, it happens in gd. And it's kinda the same. You reach a point where the BG starts flashing, the icon gets distorted, and you cannot move.

[@TheFriok]

@@tristantheoofer2 lobotomy dash

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait so its basically the minecraft shit but in 2d???

[@whyismynamehere]

I remember playing build a boat and I made a rocket that had 8 stages lol and I think it took me less then 45 seconds before everything started to glitch out. I’m glad this is actually getting attention

[@user-fi9cu4ms7z]

build a boat can easily send you there for no reason

[@zatwost]

One time, I flung myself so high that the skybox turned completely black, my health turned negative AND I had to restart the instance TWICE, JUST for it to continue being normal (remember that this was in Roblox Studio)

[@Twilightss]

ive actually seen similar stuff in building games on roblox like flyout, since you can break the game to go over 700k studs a second, i never even knew there was a barrier since normally youd slowly distort from a point you werent able to tell!

[@tristantheoofer2]

well there is lol :P now ya know

[@iamwoke322]

i usually refer to any point floating point area thingy (when the skybox starts killing itself at mach 999) the “!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” zone

[@Nogardtist]

keep making videos like this originality and passion is a rare trait these days

[@tristantheoofer2]

thanks :D and yeah i dont understand what the deal is with no originality :P makes youtube feel kinda stale sometimes lol. btw the next video im making is gonna be on literally the entirety if roblox obby history since i used to be in the community and know quite a lot abt it, tho if it isnt itll be the 2nd next video

[@Nogardtist]

@@tristantheoofer2 just dont get an addiction from high numbers been there done that and i personally dont recommend reddit for a lot of reasons i seen few small channels grow fast and they retained their identity and personality which is the most important part of a channel with a soul so dont lose that improvement and followers will come on their own as long as you keep moving

[@tristantheoofer2]

@Nogardtist yeah its pretty hard honestly :P atleast for now since theyre kinda exploding and i 1000% expect em to drop to something thats abt 5% of what im getting now within a week or so lol

[@Partybacon4220]

⁠@@tristantheoofer2game name?

[@AbsolutelyAri1]

This is cool! A few times, I've accidentally entered the null zone before by managing to get my character flung far and quickly enough, but I didn't know how crazy it could get!

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait really?? how did you do it? also yea it can get fuckin crazy as hell lol. i didnt even know about the skybox flashing until i was making the video either

[@namething-qy5rq]

I once got the skybox flickering glitch in one game and didn't understand why it happened (I knew about the floating point zone but not about the skybox glitch) and apparently I managed to get flung a trillion studs away from spawn. Nice

[@tristantheoofer2]

i learned later it was 34 billion after some other guy in the commented abt it lol. tested it and yeah. so you got atleast 34 BILLION studs. thats still really fucking impressive tho

[@v3co]

dude, this is awesome and pretty great quality, interesting topic. I’ll definitely be on the lookout for future videos from you!

[@tristantheoofer2]

thanks dude! i tend to release vids every couple months basically when i feel so they might not be that frequent, but when they do come i hope youll watch more of them :D

[@AmicaSecret]

0:08 yes, I kinda Always called that the farlands of roblox XDD You are the First Person that I see talking about It!!

[@timothythespider5036]

You sir, *HAVE* played Minecraft Storymode. Don’t lie.

[@AmicaSecret]

@@timothythespider5036 Sadly didn't in time :(. But I saw It all with gameplay

[@tristantheoofer2]

i havent and know about stuff way beyond it lol

[@cornucopiac1088]

Sometime I want to read a story about some video game world that uses these area limits and visual bugs and errors and all that jazz as a plot point. I already love that type of meta story, I just want to see THIS type of meta story someday.

[@tristantheoofer2]

dude that sounds actually fucking awesome. im not a writer tho so i couldnt really make anything good out if it probs

[@xxstrawberryxx7219]

I ended up figuring out this existed by a game called Noob Train, where I would edit my speed, then go up a ramp and glitch out of the barrier, where my character would of course glitch, and young me when I found that was so impressed by it. Edit: recently replayed the game, got to the point where my screen is flashing black.

[@midnightquad]

It’s impressive how computers can handle these large numbers. Floats aren’t a new technology either, as it was made on the mid 90’s with consoles such as Nintendo 64 and Sony PlayStation.

[@cewla3348]

in reality, this is just math. and computers are amazing at math. it's literally the only thing they can do - read and write electricity to do math.

[@tristantheoofer2]

yep. everything with computers is math. just incredibly fast math due to electricity being a certain way

[@ErraZu]

Roblox Lore :

[@julesharris6383]

Huh?

[@tristantheoofer2]

@julesharris6383 boblox lore

[@l.p4251]

2:30 reaching that limit by walking in the default speed (16 studs per second) will take more than a 1 day and a half

[@samiiiyusufff]

i reached a few million studs without teleporting and that stuff before, but i could never go past that.

[@tristantheoofer2]

epic. i also have years ago when i was playing get crushed by a speeding wall lol. i think i got to roughly 4-8 million if i remember

[@Seven_Red_Suns.]

I reached around 9999999999999999999999 studs per second by using a overclocked convenior belt on a building game that i forgot the name. Its name was su, around "build your dream house".

[@Seven_Red_Suns.]

I did not know there were any barriers, since i went past them at such i did not even lose momentun. Once you reach a certain speed and stop touching ground in roblox, you become a unstopable force that will reach the ned of this reality no matter what.

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@Seven_Red_Suns. fr. depending on your speed the walking barrier changes. at 16 speed its 2197152, at 32 its 4194304 and it doubles every precision loss point

[@Ruzzzz57]

7:58 WHEN THIS HAPPENS I FREAK OUT FOR NO REASON ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT

[@Jianschannel258]

I don’t panic,I stare at it

[@JackNuich]

An easy way to replicate this fast is play ragdoll simulator, teleport to the plane and turn gravity off, enter ragdoll mode and hold jump for a minute or 2, maybe a bit longer and the effect will show relatively quickly

[@MegaDeathError]

hi. I dont know why but i also have an addiction into diving deep into numbers and that wierd shit. Ive watched all these types of videos and it makes me rethink my life choices. Im also working on a video on floating point so you gained a new sub! :)

[@guest-guest638]

this has happened to me in nico's nextbots before, if you use the developer gun and you right click while looking down after jumping you literally get sent flying up into the sky, when that happened to me, the first person body was all glitchy and then my character died.

[@tristantheoofer2]

damn thats impressive

[@44Hd22]

You should make a game in the null zone and have it show how every aspect of roblox changes So like movement pvp item use and other stuff like ai Edit: Probably only in the playable parts but having teleport pads or just cool seamless portals would be cool. Just make sie you can’t enter the back of portals. They made that mistake in a game called ability wars and that big Apple is so powerful.

[@tristantheoofer2]

well i already have the game itself so i could probably just update it a bit and make it so you can spawn parts in and stuff

[@44Hd22]

@@tristantheoofer2 ok. I just edited my comment some more and I just saw yours because it updated my page when i edited my comment but these technical videos are really cool. Maybe you can need work the player stats or just play with velocity or damage and negative health. I just checked 2^31-1 is 2147483647 which also has something really important to do with some math i think. I think I forgot what I wanted to write next.

[@tristantheoofer2]

@44hd59 it absolutely does. actually its why the farlands began at all, bc perlin noise overflowed over it. the fartherlands are the same thing but since theres LESS iterations (atleast i think) its why they start way further out

[@44Hd22]

@@tristantheoofer2 ok

[@markercool1032]

i love how games can be broken by adventuring to far. like Minecraft and Roblox and etc

[@tristantheoofer2]

fr. apparently geometry dash of all things does too which i had no idea abt until ppl said so in the comments

[@Mizu2023]

​@@tristantheoofer2 the custom levels "unknown processing" and "unknown madness" make use of that fact

[@melizaalvarez5491]

​@@tristantheoofer2 geomentry dash has the farlands too like what

[@tiagogamer04]

Every single plane crazy and build a boat for treasure: yea, the null zone, we are homies

[@HosheaManein]

one time i tried to create a cannon in a roblox game that has a googol studs per second speed to launch me. the cannon usually made the camera partially unmovable. sometimes it made my screen entire black, sometimes it left with the roblox skybox. but i recently saw a rare occurence after launching from the cannon where the screen only had 2 black vertical bars on the side of the screen, while keeping the visible screen at the center. kinda like a 4:3 screen. i only saw that twice at that time, so if you seen that glitch before pls let me know

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeah so what happened there is that the left and right sides of the skybox died but everything else was fine :P still really cool though

[@kamilsroka1012]

oh how do u make them? i wanna see what happens too

[@Elementening]

i love how so many games have bugs super similar or exactly the same to this. one of the most effected games is minecraft (bedrock) where teleporting just 2 million blocks out from spawn will cause you to be unable to move in straight lines and all animals will fall through the blocks. any further and the whole world turns into a sort of checkerboard ocean with whole villages floating on top - abandoned of life as it all fell through the "floor" even mario has this bug

[@tristantheoofer2]

every game does actually lol. yes even mc java edition but at around 1 quadrillion for the same issues as at 2 million and the stripelands show up at 9 quadrillion or so with the farlands showing up at abt 35-36 quadrillion or smth like that

[@Elementening]

@@tristantheoofer2 java edition farlands and fartherlands are very interesting, but i do like the bugginess of bedrock edition (and roblox / similar)

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@Elementening have you heard of the fringelands too? bc if you havent i actually have a vid on that also lol. and yeah the bedrock edition bugginess is pretty fun to mess with

[@Elementening]

@@tristantheoofer2 i have! i watched your void and farlands videos right after and im surprised at how well they're put together. very underrated, keep it up 👍

[@tristantheoofer2]

@Elementening thank you my dude :D btw my next video is likely gonna be over an HOUR long because itll be doing an absolutely massive deep dive into the history of roblox obbies and its community. like i mean absolutely everything from when the types of obby showed up to when glitches were discovered to when certain achievements happened. and if its not out by february there will be another video ready by then abt that one glitch that makes minecrafts end a bunch of donuts lol

[@SVDBlitz]

I know I'm late, but I know there's a glitch that features this on Work at a Pizza Place. However, it requires a car and for you to equip the gravity coil whilst driving said car. If you exit the car while still holding the gravity coil, you'll fly up. It'll be a while, but you can go past Roblox's floating point zone and be reduced to literally nothing.

[@tristantheoofer2]

ye someone else said smth like this and i had no idea how to do it. so ty! also i think the reason it does what it does is that the momentum from the car carries over, but since the actual gravity bit is set to almost 1 already BEFORE that (because thats how it works, i think it takes your height and multiplies it by some constant) it rolls over 1 which means you dont hit the ground and dont even go towards it lmao

[@pixel273a]

Me: **completes a delivery, drives to last house** "Almost done, what a nice da-" The game: *"GONE, REDUCED TO ATOMS"*

[@AtoTime]

how does this video actually have 3.6k views on just 1 month, literally no joke but to say this is insanely good content and intresting. im shocked

[@tristantheoofer2]

wait you actually think so? thanks man! i actually made another vid like this 6 months ago also and it blew up too lmao. maybe bc nobody made explainers on the topic before? idk. also i saw you commented on the i beat cancer video so thanks :D a new vid on how deep minecrafts void is (the REAL answer, everyones got it wrong) is dropping in like 2-3 days btw, so be on the lookout for that :P

[@AtoTime]

​@@tristantheoofer2you are very welcome! ill keep an eye on your channel page for the newer video, have a nice day/night!

[@AtoTime]

also i guarantee you will be popular at some point, no joke this is high quality

[@tristantheoofer2]

@AtoTime oh absolutely and i think its already happening lmao

[@chromemaskqurae1222]

'Well, this has an explanation of why it exists... But this happened with the avatar display window when customizing my avatar. It was absolutely bizarre effects that could go well with any horror game that uses the phobia of being deleted. Like, the face was divided in a repeating pattern of triangles that interlock and connect to one another, most of the arms, legs and back accessories extended into long strands with smaller strands branching off of it. The only visible part of my character during the time was the word "Glitch" which was on one of the accessories that go over my avatar's face. Everything that wasn't the glitch accessory glitched in and out of existence as I slowly spun it. That glitch then stopped as I refreshed the page... But I will not forget about the screenshot I took of it. Such maddening patterns, such eldritch design... Not even my digital art of mine is capable of replicating the same unfathomable shapes that this glitch created. Maybe glitches can also be a way of art as chaos is. ' - Chrome

[@tristantheoofer2]

damn... thats pretty deep

[@hzdgudsidgyufo8700]

woah i want to see the image

[@jorim.delos.reyes23]

I wanna see

[@MsPatYou]

7:47 the skybox declared independence

[@tristantheoofer2]

frfr

[@pablodourado8352]

When i was 9 at 2018 i thought other games would be inside very very very far lol

[@SnoFitzroy]

8:42 32 bit integer limit. Probably some kind of overflow between a float and an integer being used for the same thing?

[@tristantheoofer2]

honestly maybe thats it? like maybe it resets to a 32 bit int or smth for a sec then recorrects itself

[@Cyberfishofant]

​@@tristantheoofer2 i think they're saying that the number is stored twice, with 1 overflowing, but not the other

[@Complexian]

3:10 reaching 1 million studs a while ago actually used to be its own barrier as passing it would cause you to fall into the floor. i actually did a series of streams 2 years ago to walk to that point for 18 hours in bloxel because of this.

[@Reverty370]

Very underrated video! Kept me interested the whole time!

[@tristantheoofer2]

thank you :D next ones gonna be on the entirety of roblox obby history (and i mean EVERYTHING). if i dont get that out within a month then ill have another one ready probs :P

[@pawble]

10 / 10 video genuinely entertaining , interesting , and fun to watch

[@SonicGaming6]

I love how this dude replays to most of his comments and gives a detailed explanation to each one (if possible)

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeah bc im just used to doing it lol. and honestly i feel more ppl just SHOULD do that if applicable :P i feel like it makes it so its a more tight knit community and i just like doing it. tho its getting INCREDIBLY fucking hard to do it now bc i get like 40 comments an hour lmao

[@SonicGaming6]

@tristantheoofer2 Honestly, i really agree with this. I feel that when people do reply to comments, they feel like they are part of the community rather than just another number in their views

[@tristantheoofer2]

@SonicGaming6 frfr and i want it to always feel like that lmao

[@DazombieAlien]

I experienced this once when I was playing be crushed by a speeding wall, I got glinted and instead of dying my character looked all glitchy, it was pretty freaking cool.

[@tristantheoofer2]

holy shit i had that exact thing happen to me like 5 years ago lol

[@DazombieAlien]

@@tristantheoofer2 same I think it happens back in either 2016 or 2018 I think that game was made in 2016.

[@tristantheoofer2]

ok

[@BESGAMC]

Amazing video by the way, but it’s kind of crazy. You solved two of the smallest and biggest questions in two games aka Minecraft and Roblox

[@tristantheoofer2]

i did indeed lmao. idek if thats what i was going for but yea i agree

[@friedorange5999]

You deserve at least 100k Subscribers! I loved the video, keep it up man

[@Manchweld]

The ace desire to burn everything to the ground (except garlic bread)

[@tristantheoofer2]

(and cake)

[@Manchweld]

@@tristantheoofer2 of course

[@loganjohnson4259]

pov: your roblox character is slowly entering a black hole

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeah real lmao

[@loganjohnson4259]

@@tristantheoofer2 lol

[@guest_negative1]

You can easily do this on the y axis in plane crazy or whatever the game is called by performing a glitch using the 2 features in it along with moving. First go in the air then activate parachute while not in any vehicle, then go in randomly and spam random movement and you get flung in the air so high, you die, but you die after your character disappears.

[@grzyb11]

simple explanation: float numbers (decimal numbers) have a certain limit of digits (the float point) and when the number reaches that limit the float gets less precise (so less decimal number digits) lets say we have a float variable of 63.999 and the float limit is 64.000 so when the float variable goes over that limit it doesn’t become 64.001 but 64.00, so the xyz positions of polygons in the 3d models start getting rounded off to higher and higher numbers, eventually not even being decimal and rounding numbers like 9283183 (just an example number) to 9283000

[@PLANECRASHLOL]

Minecraft: We are the best because we have the farlands! Roblox: Are you sure about that?

[@tristantheoofer2]

nah fr but minecrafts also got the skybox killing itself in a way better manner lmao

[@jakfjfrgnei]

Mc also has different types of “far lands” across versions (i.e the stripe lands on bedrock)

[@tristantheoofer2]

@scout7160 yep i know that and they actually exist in java too (at 2^53 instead of 2^24) but i didnt think they were worth mentioning in my other video :P oh and the infdev stone wall stuff too. honestly i may make a history if minecrafts farlands video after im done making the one thats going up around next week

[@The_Copper_Element_Itself]

​@@jakfjfrgneibedrock did actually have the actual farlands until 1.17.20, when mojang just decided to fix it out of the random, but the stripe lands still exist, alongside the dot lands (corner stripe lands)

[@ExperienceExplosion]

Love your character's shirt 💜

[@tristantheoofer2]

thanks lol. you aroace too?

[@ExperienceExplosion]

@tristantheoofer2 yep always nice to see another aroace person

[@channel_name-xt3sw]

i used to get into the floating point zone a bunch in classic neverland lagoon, apparently is was the perfect formula to get flung a lot

[@v_lor]

there was a bug in a game i used to play it was called something like “build a house and sword fight” where there was a bug, it allowed you to almost instantly make the skybox black using a gravity coil and certain items.

[@tristantheoofer2]

noice

[@FriedCuttlefish]

There's null zones in lots of games, even Geometry Dash. But I personally think Roblox's is the most fun seeing as how easily accessible it is.

[@tristantheoofer2]

theres a null zone in EVERY game actually. it just depends if you can break out of bounds lol

[@FriedCuttlefish]

yup

[@Mizu2023]

​@@tristantheoofer2 it depends on if the game uses floating point numbers or not

[@HeckYeahRyan]

ITS IN GEOMETRY DASH??

[@Voided_Arrow]

I actually reached the part where the skybox started flashing black over and over again and then my health went to zero but i didnt hear the rocket launcher sound but then after that happend it crashed and then i havent experienced it since for a month now

[@GallifreyanChronicles]

Things like this in roblox occurs mainly in streaming enabled games, it will be a bit different without it.

[@Normal_ii_fan.]

Yo! This video was so interesting. I remember firstly hearing about the "null zone" and when I learnt about it, I had to try it!

[@tristantheoofer2]

ty ^^ i think this was the first actual proper explanation video in youtube on the topic too

[@arsonzartz]

bro this happens to me all the time, whenever i get flung i turn into triangles lol

[@tristantheoofer2]

lol nice

[@masterminer176]

Hey, what's the music at 4:15? It's pretty cool and I wanted to know what it is. Also great job explaining how the Floating Point system works! Really paints a better idea of what causes the imprecisions to begin with Edit: I noticed you link the music in your comment, thanks tor that! ^^

[@tristantheoofer2]

all the music is in the pinned comment in order of when it was used and also thanks!

[@GameristicForce]

You turned into AntVenom with this

[@tristantheoofer2]

@GameristicForce lmao yea i think my channel is slowly becoming a mix of that and my own personality. which i feel is a good thing. yk?

[@vladimireguizabal4136]

This guy deserves more subs. Now I know what happens when I get flung in the air

[@spymanlol3569]

Its funny tought, that it always happends to me in nautral disaster especially in the earthquakes since you get throw like so fast that in SECONDS your character bugs and then u die

[@th1ngmusic295]

ace flag spotted

[@tristantheoofer2]

indeed now pls give me a lifetime supply of garlic bread and chocolate cake

[@sonkWhoTFTookMyUserBe4Me]

farlands roblox edition

[@tristantheoofer2]

real. more like the stripelands tho

[@ebrucan7161]

I have a weird irrational phobia of glitches, distorted sprites, the out-of-bounds. which makes me INSANELY terrified of the null zone

[@Vilebreken]

the coordonates roblox teleport after going above the limit is the Integer Limit, the maximum number that's can be stored on 32 bits

[@certifiednothingness]

where was the elipsy warning at 1 trillion studs

[@kr1v]

In lt2 I flinged myself with the new bluesteel axe and I could notice myself shaking with my camera fully put very bad

[@miriamdonahue6188]

0:10 once in iloilo flight sim we somehow flung the plane so hard that this was the entire screen effect and all the passengers and crew had to reset

[@s3JTD]

A bug idk if it it is fixed or not in Plane crazy, if you open parachute on pilot seat on a simple fast flying object, the object will sometimes glitch out to a point where the sky becomes black and object along with player will disappear completely.

[@TheActualDried]

One time in build a boat I reached a trillion or more studs when the skybox was completely black using the infinite gold grinder with 2 players after 1 died, I was able to reach this point SOMEHOW, like complete pitch black or I couldn't notice the flash of the skybox.

[@tristantheoofer2]

how da fuck??? no you probably were ACTUALLY at 1 trillion by then bc i later found that the skybox issue was at 34 billion. still. what tf

[@TheActualDried]

@@tristantheoofer2 lol so since the skybox issue was at about 34B as you said, mightve been 500B, 100B or yeah probably 1 trillion no shit

[@tristantheoofer2]

@@TheActualDried yeah seriously thats cracked

[@SkullManager]

Someone gotta make a game around journeying out to reach the other side of the null zone. I would play the everloving hell out of that.

[@tristantheoofer2]

like they start at 0 and trek all the way out? that sounds like an amazing concept actually

[@Jed_._]

this commonly might happen if it has something to do mostly with collision, examples like dashing into a wall, you might fling yourself heavily (if it is a strong dash) but not as much power to reach the floating point.

[@tristantheoofer2]

yeah its happened to me before when i was playing get hit by a speeding wall lol

[@Alatsno]

Thanks for finally letting me know what this is. Been wondering for years.

[@tristantheoofer2]

np my man

[@itscourierintime]

POV: Your legs after sitting on the toilet for too long

[@tristantheoofer2]

me when i get out of bed in the morning:

[@Yusuketh443]

this video is better than digitosim entire channel

[@tristantheoofer2]

whos digitosim? also glad you think so :D

[@Yusuketh443]

@@tristantheoofer2 UwU

[@tristantheoofer2]

@Yusuketh443 ok

[@Thefunnyorangemonke]

This has happened to me countless times, so many times in fact that I have experienced this so many times that I have labels for the zones: 10M studs: the Null zone, The character will be incredibly buggy at this point, as well as the kill barrier (when you fall out of the world) will end at most games, falling into the void at this point will not result in death, but endless falling. 300M studs: indistinct zone, At this point parts of your character may begin clipping through each other, making it nearly impossible to tell its a roblox character. 1.2B studs: lost zone, It will now be nearly impossible to tell your character is here. 2B studs: deterioration zone, Now large vehicles will start to become invisible so even if you’re in something like a rocket ship or a bus, it will slowly become unidentifiably.

[@MrDucks2279]

As a game dev, made a project to teleport you to any level of the nullzone you want

[@tristantheoofer2]

already did and its what i used in the video. can tp literally anywhere

[@ryderdobie]

always wondered why the floating point eixsted

[@Eroxally]

7:37 hahaha i know where you got this sound effect

[@jjpg3923]

you can go past floating zones in work at a pizza place by equipping a gravity coil, getting into a car and jumping out the car with the gravity coil. idk what about the car causes this, but i got so high up one time that my character got spaghettified basically

[@Unkown694]

the bug gets exponentially worse as the floating point numbers get bigger and bigger. it is a tradeoff between range and accuracy. this applies to EVERYYHING. from camera to collisions and even physics. this applies to EVERY game,even the 2D ones. but this technique is pretty fast and nobody would reach those limits while playing normally and its not a big proble.

[@tristantheoofer2]

yes it indeed is. i didnt know how to 100% properly explain it tho lol. so yeah ofc it applies to everything

[@PiX3LS_XD]

6:03 ive been there before it was in plane crazy

[@kittykatnyaw]

i got to a point where my character was completely 2d and i could only move left and right 😓

[@tristantheoofer2]

cool so you got to 67108864 on literally 1 single axis lmao

[@blackhawkrescuemission5channel]

I Liked and subscribed bro, thank you

[@tristantheoofer2]

thank you my dude :D next vids droppin on the 14th btw if you were interested

[@facuzamorano7839]

I reached that limit like 1992 times in babft and didnt known what it was, tysm

[@nostalgic_robloxian1498]

cool video 👍

[@tristantheoofer2]

thanks my dude :D

[@44Hd22]

7:16 that’s a bit limit. 2147483647 is the largest number bags can handle. -2147483648 is the smallest possible number in Java. I am definitely not an expert so if you know better you can just correct me and I will learn more knowledge. (Definitely a grammar mistake)

[@reizinhodojogo3956]

its the 32 bit integer, its 2^31-1, so roblox engine prob uses 32 bit integer, it also happens in more games something with 32 bit integer, usually a limit of a number, like the powder toy, the max u can set the temperature of a particle is the 32 bit integer, if u try 1 more it goes to negative

[@sussy001]

That is why big games like PTFS is very small and the map is a size of a baseplate. An even larger game like aeronautica have no issues even when the map isn’t even a size of a baseplate the only broken is the objects

[@tristantheoofer2]

makes sense yeah. also whats ptfs?

[@BRAVETOASTA]

8:47 , this is similar when reaching the 64 bit limit in some simulator games (example: Arm wrestling simulator) It warps your stat back to -64 bit limit

[@cherrypawz678]

i like the ace flag on your avatar

[@tristantheoofer2]

lmao thanks. im aroace btw