Wheel Spacers vs. Wheel Adapters

[@ebiketester24]

IMPORTANT: Milan you used the wrong lug nuts. Please dont drive with the Golf until you fixed that. There are 2 different types of lug nuts with rounded or conical end. You can see the differenz at 4:10! You could may lose your tires while driving. Sorry for my bad english, i am from germany.

[@ebiketester24]

You are also doing it wrong at the rear of the car. Please fix this quickly.

[@JP_670]

Wimbowambo I think it's too late...

[@ben1994]

Jerome Lisua guys I heard he's now a vegetable due to the wrong lug nuts

[@athenkosidick5036]

@@JP_670 exactly he's way too late I'm sure he lost he's wheels while driving

[@roastedhd2852]

I think is deaded by now...

[@bridger911]

Did the back wheels wrong, those lugs you put on for the wheel lugs are supposed to be the lugs that attach the spacer to the hub not the way you did it

[@aaronm406]

Since I have a good understanding of hub bore, I’ve never wanted to get wheels spacers without the hub centric ring/lip.

[@jaredkain3021]

your scrub radius could now be wrong as you've spaced the front wheels out, unless the aftermarket wheels were the wrong offset and you've now corrected it with the spacers. the rear spacers don't appear to be hubcentric, so that's gonna be dangerous, the studs are now taking the weight of the wheel as opposed to the hubcentric ring as the manufacturer designed.

[@ToadStool942]

Excellent job on detail and putting the cookies on the lower shelf. Sure it's not rocket science but you pretty much answered most every reasonable question some of your viewer might otherwise have. Thanks much for doing this.

[@epicx1038]

The golf is looking mint

[@YouThubez]

What is wrong with your front bumper? It doesnt fits well as i see :/

[@ho11yhood]

I have a mk4 Jetta 2.0 same color as the oem color on your lil bros golf most mods you have done are the same/similar to what I have done i actually just purchased the same exact front 15mm spacers which came with the extended lugs on my car. Thanks for the videos keep them going , if your brother goes any lower in the front I recommend rolling the fenders due to wheels sticking out more and possibly get a hybrid oil pan $80 us dollars and is steel at the bottom of the pan a true life saver.

[@milanmastracci]

We plan on going lower, yes. Thats a good idea. Thanks for the advice :)

[@SwiftlyGuyver_]

Those spacers are not a good idea but those are fine adapters fine as they fine true center any. I'm a professional machinist and true up centers all day everyday. I have a set wheel adapters one for the past six years and I've had no problem with them so far. If you can find hub centric spacers or adapters for the exact size hub for the possible two different sized hubs on vehicle then do it. These spacers and adapters are probably just generic meant for more than one type of bolt circles.

[@brianbowen9024]

So howd the tires hold up? The lugs on the spacers wernt sitting flush which is a bad thing. Needed to cut them shorter or get a thicker spacer

[@chrisserfozo]

Those tires going to clear the fender lip on large bumps?

[@milanmastracci]

Yeah :)

[@brendanchennells4649]

that's not the difference between the 2. there both wheel spacers. wheel adapters are actually made to fit a different lug pattern to your car then the existing one.

[@brendanchennells4649]

+Joseph Kaufman as a matter of fact the front are not. neither are adapters. the fronts are universal for 2 different patterns. 5x100 and 5x112. the rears are just spacers as well.

[@MrSkerz32]

+ Brendan Chennells Exactly! Those are spacers. Just bought a set of spacers for my Jeep for clearance and they are a 5x5 to 5x5 bolt pattern, which states it's a wheel "spacer". You're 100% correct man. But what really got me heated was that they used the nuts that come with the spacer as their lug nut. Those nuts are meant to secure the spacer to the hub, not the wheel to the spacer. That's why vehicles have closed end lug nuts. Supposedly Milan is a car guy though...

[@milanmastracci]

How would you use a lug nut on a car that doesn't have studs..?

[@MrSkerz32]

That's not what I was saying. You're supposed to use closed end lug nuts for the studs on your spacers, not the nuts that come with the spacer. The nuts that are included are for securing the spacer to the hub. Of course you can't do that with a car that doesn't have studs on the hub but you should have bought true lug nuts because it is 10 times safer.

[@ScottPC]

Need a video on how to sort out bumper fitment! Yours looks slightly out!

[@Ryanisity]

Do you get the same sized spacers for the rear tires? So like 15mm in the front and 15mm in the back?

[@coconeon3301]

brother where did you buy your wheel spacers

[@scottkaluza4156]

By the looks of it, all the weight is only on the studs. Not into the center bore? I thought the fitment in the center bore should fit as well?

[@rogjackson]

Seems like it's just extra weight if there's no actual interference. Also, some guys prefer a "tucked" look to the wheels being clearly within the fenders and somewhat under the fenderwalls.

[@kdiggity1]

So it does improve the overall handling of the car? How much was the front pair of spacers?

[@atraxr603]

They are around 100€ or 120-150$.

[@horatiocaine4464]

Hey Milan I have the exact same car and the doors don't close properly, if this also happens to you as well is there a way to fix/adjust them??

[@nemanjanovovic1971]

Hi Milan! I need your opinion about wheel adapters. I'm driving VW Golf mk3, and last week I bought new wheels. Now I need to use wheel adapters to make switch from 4x100 to 5x100, but people telling me that wheel adapters are not really safe. I need your opinion about that, couse you have much more experience with that.

[@tribaltechno]

love the stance. but if you're using wheel adapters/spacers, make sure they're hub centric, the ones you got on the rear aren't hub centric, the front ones are

[@GMWsho]

Looks nice :) I might try using spacers on my car.

[@ferrari3696]

why did you not go with hubcentric adaptors for the rears?

[@diegoeleazar9154]

would you prefer pushed out oem rims than low offset nice looking wheels?

[@bmkhattak9639]

good job kidz👍, i have 97 accord and wana change the oem rims, what size i shld go for 17 or 18 for aftrmarkt rim?

[@666Seb87]

Ive bought aftermarket rims for my golf with correct offset so theyre flush with the fender without any additional crap

[@milanmastracci]

That's awesome :) Thats how it should be done!!

[@bomb699]

But he did say he was putting bigger brakes on the car man

[@JorgeDiaz-xo1nh]

guys and videos kick ass, got the info I needed.

[@ironbloodedmyth1204]

Not a spacer question but i bought some aftermarket wheels for my Mk4 Jetta they are 5x100 17x7 offset is 45 i believe and i know the stock lug bolts are Round 14x1.5×28mm so which Conical tuner lugs would i need i know they will be 14×1.5 just not sure on the mm?

[@robertstallion6553]

Hey guys. I have a Dodge Ram 1500 20in 5 lug rims and a friend gave me some American Racing rims that I like. The problem is the rims are Ford F150 22in 6 lug rims. What will work safely and still look good. Thanks

[@nekeol]

How to adjust pcd with 7.5Jx17 ET50 and 7.5Jx17 ET43, diffrence is only et43 and et50, for mazda 6 wheels?

[@nickkundrat9757]

What size where the wheel adapters? The smallest ones I could get from ECS for my Audi where 22mm and I’m concerned it will push the wheels out to far. Thank you,

[@juandasilva4640]

Looks very nice!!

[@milanmastracci]

Thanks Juan :)

[@YinglySuy]

What your wheel spacers size ? 10mm or 15mm? On this video

[@DatColton]

Hey I have a question. My wheel spacers fit on my hub but they won't fit my rim size. So what is the problem?

[@ryanscanlan9875]

Awesome info as always ma man.

[@TGLOK_official]

Hey guys quick question where did you order the 5 lug to 4 lug adapter ?

[@chuckchuckf.l.o.w4131]

What kind of spacers are those for the front......I need to get some like those

[@hyusama7469]

These kinda mods could really screw up your car and its handling of you don't know what you're doing. First check if they're legal in your country and state. Then find out the oem offset of your car and calculate if you even need wheel spacers in the first place. Best way is to get proper fitting rims in the first place that already have the right offset for your car.

[@carlodioso495]

what's the different of wheel spacer and wheel adapters?

[@DoubleDeezBro]

Hey Milan, so I have Enkei RPF1's and they require a hubcentric ring. What that be compatible with wheel adapters? Or would it cause an issue?

[@MrSkerz32]

+MichaelEscobarTV You can purchase hubcentric wheel spacers. They are typically better for your vehicle anyways so that the wheel is flush to the spacer and doesn't cause vibration/wobbling. Just search on amazon bud.

[@AzeOfSpadez]

Nice, i'm running RPF1's with wheel adapters

[@AzeOfSpadez]

get hub rings too, if you need them

[@laughyalberts863]

what's up MilanMast nation! let's get roooiight into the cars !!! ;)

[@alexfelix7434]

so on a VW lug nutts are backwards or lug bolts

[@xLostRemnant]

Euros like VW, Audi, BMW, volvo use lug bolts instead of lut nuts/studs

[@Leric70Elienwriter]

What is better wheel adapter ir spacers Tell me

[@icxcnika555]

do wheel adapter change the offset of the wheels ur installing? im trying to to install custom 3pc wheels made for a 95' BMW M3 to 13' VW CC by using wheel adapters. I know they make wheel adapters in different thicknesses too.

[@chrisdinarte3462]

flexluis 311 did you ever find out? lol I'm doing Audi wheels on an e36 M3

[@perrydemetro]

Maybe you could help me out I bought new Rims For my BMW 335i and they don't fit The centerpiece is too small any help on what I do?

[@joshcifuentes6037]

I just bought some for my Mazda they fit the car perfectly but their to big for the rims. What could be a solution

[@FenixPajarito]

If i put wheel spacers with 57.1 Center bore on my mk4 golf will i nees biggger hub center rings or no? I plan to buy 57.1 ID 73.1 OD hub centric rings because my xxr wheels have 73.1mm centee bore but since im putting wheel spacers I am not sure if that will fit, so its simple, I have on my shipping cart: 8mm wheel spacers 57.1CB, hubcentric rings 73.1 OD 57.1 ID, XXR 553 wheels with 73.1mm Center bore. I have a 2004 MK4 Gti 1.8T. I would really appreciate your help.

[@milanmastracci]

Yes you are correct :)

[@bencrosbie]

wouldn't ye use the handbrake instead?

[@speedbois]

what's a good size wheel spacers should I get for my delsol don't kno what size to get

[@AzraqueYazdhani]

a quick question,installing these will change wheel alignment..?

[@PanameraTurboSEHybrid]

Azraque Yazdhani No.

[@1ProShooter]

Are you aware of anyone using an adapter for an Old school 15" Cragar SS wheels on a 60's vw?

[@RYZINAP]

Just a question, what would a squeaking sound from the rear right wheel i think, I'd like to think its brake pads but the squeaking STOPS when the brakes are applied even slightly. Can anyone help me out here?

[@milanmastracci]

Brake pads! kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5Xco3l_iJaAsJo

[@RYZINAP]

milanmastracci Thanks for replying, I wasn't sure if it was because my brakes are in pretty good condition, I'll get it checked on tuesday, test is in 2 weeks

[@googleuser7434]

My brakes squeak, and the pads have been replaced a couple months ago... I'm confused as to why they'd squeak?

[@jackiechan_wtf4041]

Please tell me you used brake grease?

[@craftman5632]

The new nuts that comes with a spacer is suppose to go onto the car studs, add some loctite. when you put on the wheel you use your original lug nuts.

[@mantasrudzinskas296]

Very good. Thank you.

[@coenedwards8296]

Where did u get these from?

[@JustinDevine528]

Hey milan I installed spacers similar to the ones you have on your accord coupe. I noticed at regular speeds driving in the city everything is fine but once up to highway speeds i feel the car wobbling. I dont get a vibration noise just feels different like its not supposed to be like that. Any advice? Thanks in advance for any help

[@milanmastracci]

Are they hub centric wheel spacers?

[@JustinDevine528]

Yes they are hub centric. Center bore 64.1 mm, same as whats on my 2016 accord.

[@pcxgam3r576]

You need alloy hub spigots that change the fitment of your alloys to match the hub I had to do the same for my e39 alloys to fit a e60 only 2mm diffrence but stopped my wobble from 40mph to 80mph on motorways Find the original hub fitment for your old wheels and your new alloys and find the corresponding spigots They cost virtually nothing but make a big diffrence Its because the 2mm diffrence is quite a lot and when you fit them on your car the alloy can still move so when you tighten up the bolts it pulls it out of centre causing the wobble

[@JustinDevine528]

@@pcxgam3r576 ended up being that the wheel needed to be rebalanced. Wheel was fine with no spacers but as soon as the spacers went on. You felt it. After rebalance it was perfect

[@mr.shwifty5809]

where did you guys buy the wheel adapters

[@bilingualsermonschannel]

I have a little problem in the rear tires of my SUV it has the same adapters in the front and rear...the rear tires are wearing out on just one side of the tires ..and I can see the wires .how could I fix the problem..

[@colethrailkill1012]

Marvin Maldonado alignment

[@DA2THFA1RY]

Aren't these bad for your Ball Joints and Wheel Bearings?

[@brianofarrell1977]

+NBA Truthster only? Pretty expensive changing wheel bearing if you ask me lol

[@Joshf93.]

Neither the spacers or the adapters were hubcentric and before you say that the spacers were you could see the hub ring on the spacer wasn't in contact with the wheel so you're gonna get vibrations and wheel wobble at 60-70+ mph dude...

[@SwiftlyGuyver_]

Josh Foster I agree with you on the wheel spacer that it wasn't exactly concentric with the hub. Now the wheel adapter though is a different story. Those are only lug centric which they will find the true center if the bolt patterns were done correctly.

[@Joshf93.]

James H but on the wheel adapter there is no hubcentric lip that will slot inside the centre of the wheel itself, I stand by what I said that none of them are hubcentric, wheel wobble will still occur

[@tristangump3784]

Josh Foster hello, could you please explain what having the spacers hubcentric means? Always good to have new info

[@Joshf93.]

Tristan Gump​ in layman's terms the wheel hub of most cars has a lip in the centre, that lip will sit inside the wheel itself to keep it centred to reduce wobble and vibration, when you add a spacer WITHOUT a hubcentric "lip" means that the surface the wheel now sits against will be flat and the only thing keeping the wheel centred will be the wheel studs/bolts, this lets the the wheel move slightly as it rotates causing vibration, having a spacer WITH a hubcentric lip eliminates this and will keep the wheel centred as it would on the hub of the car, thus removing vibration/wobble, hope this helps!

[@Joshf93.]

***** correct, having a gap between the centre of the wheel and the hub itself puts all the stress on the wheel studs/bolts.

[@davidarreola2013]

What brand spacers and adapters do you use?

[@milanmastracci]

They're from Precision European Motorwerks

[@davidarreola2013]

+milanmastracci thanks keep up the awesome videos

[@SuperMemoy]

Luca will take over your channel just wait on it!

[@AsgharAli-of7tj]

hi guys please tell me which is the best for car wheel adopter or wheel spacer

[@alexalexalexalex7906]

What’s better? Adapters or spacers??? Pls

[@milanmastracci]

I prefer spacers with extended studs, but there are pros and cons to both.

[@alexalexalexalex7906]

milanmastracci adapters sit on the hub?

[@patrickfrancis6483]

so why did u use adapter In the rear instead of 2 more spacer

[@rozcoog3511]

I have spacers as well to put the lugs is so hard im guessing its the thread & it goes in so forces...

[@edyncardona9309]

Where did you get the adapters?

[@shaunsmith6585]

How did you get the measurements you need for the thickness of the spacers mate?

[@jerryalford2704]

Own a 1989 Dodge ram charger with will spacers does it affect the Warrior when you put bigger ones on the rear to Lake the with proper

[@thusirohan7413]

sick new music at the end 😁😁😁😁😁

[@InkyLoko]

Where can I get spacers for my 2012 Jetta?

[@tonydacosta4575]

i plan on going 5x114.3 on my golf so im going to be using adapters

[@osvaldoesquivel5633]

Where the best place to get adapters for 5×112 to my 5×100 new beetle?

[@dannyspie]

You said the back was an adapter but when demonstrating you called it a spacer. I'm trying to figure out the difference.

[@QkSilver04GTO]

They do the same thing. The adapter has 2 advantages... since they tend to be thicker, you bolt them down to the hub and then you bolt the wheel down to the spacer. An adapter will also allow you to mount a different bolt patterned wheel to your car if you choose to do so. Both spacers and adapters are safe to use provided you get wheel and hub centric ones and if you need longer wheel studs or bolts, you buy good strong ones like ARP. As always, torque everything down to spec and double check the torque at the recommended interval.

[@carlosdossantos5656]

GREAT video subscribed 👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@cameronbowen7997]

Wish wheel spacers or adapters were legal in Australia

[@nickbrown1944]

how do you find out which one you need like 5/100 like yours? how did you know that?

[@Ls3adrian]

Look up your car mine is 5x4.5 or 5x114.3

[@milanmastracci]

Doing a google search is the easiest way, however your wheel should have stamping on the back-side of the spokes indicating the bolt pattern :)

[@marcelinospeelman5528]

I was just watching your other vids 👌👌👌

[@baghali123]

How come you didn't get hub-centric wheel adapters for the rear?!

[@milanmastracci]

Couldn't find any. It just means installing the rears will take a bit more time :)

[@baghali123]

+milanmastracci I'm not really concerned about installing time. What I'm really concerned about is the viberation you get on high speeds because they're not hub-centric. Btw, I really like your videos man, keep up the great work ;)

[@kimsexcass]

Link to where you got them?

[@willtrautman6243]

do you think the spacers need anti seize

[@milanmastracci]

You sure can! I have a link in the description for a full in depth tutorial on how to install some :)

[@rodney1702]

how well do you like those headlamps

[@Spankmachete]

do wheel spacers ruin the axle or the wheel bearings?

[@MikeUtoober]

bearings i believe so, im not sure about axle

[@AzeOfSpadez]

Just wears out the bearings like 10% faster.

[@milanmastracci]

Neither of them. The only thing I could do, is put a bit more strain on the wheel bearing, however its not going to be to the point where you'll be replacing them frequently. I've had some installed on my honda, 25 and 38mm spacers, and I haven't had a single problem.

[@floorit3669]

im comfuse. do you mean " wheel log nuts are better or log bolt

[@atraxr603]

In reality lug nuts are way better. Bolts such ass.

[@floorit3669]

*****​ what i mean about that is. On VW they use lug bolts not nuts.

[@ryanduchaine4263]

ummmmm, im SO confused..... im about to order HubCentrics, they look the same, except mine will have a "lip" - BUT I have bolts that stick out, and my lugs are not long, they screw onto those bolts ----- Honestly it looks like you guys installed these wrong, especially the rear. Its not seated properly, the OEM Lugs are sticking out, and there is not "lip" on the adapter ---- hopefully you figured that out, and now i will have to find a better video explaining this. Nice try tho :)

[@fragil7251]

Need help My mini is a 4lugs nut but I have a nice set of 18" with a 5 lug nuts wonder if I could there are some kind of 4 to 5 lug spacer that you can refer me to.

[@milanmastracci]

Something like this? amzn.to/2kFSMn2

[@OlympicGaming]

btw, im ready for a new color on the golf. a carbon red will do it justice. my 2 cents :)

[@313stratus]

where did you order the spacers..

[@jimjim5948]

Was hoping to see a clearer difference of the front and esp the rear wheels after installation. Good video anyway.

[@ironbloodedmyth1204]

Anyone know if running 5mm or 8mm spacer in the front and 10mm or 15mm in the rear is safe/good on a MK4 Jetta? My car is not lowered still on stock suspension just running 17' wheels and 205/55 Tires all around. And are hubcentric wheel spacers the way to go wanna try adding some to the rear first.

[@zachfisher2417]

StealthWolfGundamVR6 little late, but 15mm in the front and 20mm in the rear is perfect.

[@DatColton]

Could I do this to a 2002 Volkswagen Golf?

[@fg2joel682]

What brand rims are on on the gti???

[@Bear_83]

interesting good vid.. but still didn't explain the difference of the two. and the size mm spacers prefer depending how far you want to expand

[@atraxr603]

That couldn't be explained as it is different for every car. Look up the ET value of your stock rims and then just buy the wheels with the "correct" offset (one you would like). It is also safer that way instead of using spacers.

[@Bear_83]

Atrax R Thanks for that didn't know. But I'm still learning and want to bring out the tire more on my M37x. What is ET. Where can I find it thank

[@pinoyuc]

does the wheel spacer have threads as well?

[@milanmastracci]

Some of them do depending on the style.

[@AzeOfSpadez]

Wouldn't you feel safer with Loctite on the "adapters"?

[@milanmastracci]

No. Do you use loctite when putting your lug nuts on? You can if YOU want, however it isn't needed, as long as you torque the bolts up to the proper specification.

[@AzeOfSpadez]

milanmastracci No because my wheels come out often enough. I don't think im ever removing my spacers. Do YOU remove your spacers/adapters whenever you work on your wheels? I don't think so.

[@yjuinn]

Probably not a good idea for Milan to recommend it to others to do so. Some viewers may like to try out how Spacers look before committing to them. Even it may be unlikely for your taste to change, I personally like the option of being able to take the spacers off.

[@AzeOfSpadez]

Yee Juinn lmao they're not gonna be glued on. It just makes it far less likely that the bolts will come loose from all the vibration and stress. You can take them off, I've changed my spacer sizes before so i had to remove them. a lot of videos on KZbin suggest them. In fact, there are no downsides imo to using loctite.

[@313stratus]

why did you put adapters on the back.

[@TB_Finance]

I have been watching your videos for a while and I like what you are doing! Keep up the good work! I was wondering if you could do a video for DIY lugnut painting. The results are nice but I need a good way to get the color to stick! Thanks

[@james4v261]

with the wheel adaptor couldn't you go from a 4 lug to a 5 lug or that doesn't really happen

[@nathanplatt5517]

You do realize you can just put the car in gear to keep the front tires from spinning so you can tork them up off the ground and do you realize you can just set your parking brake to lock the rear tires so you can tork them without having to get in and put your foot on the brake

[@ndn2589]

Nathan Platt you do realize it's not all wheel drive fuck face

[@nathanplatt5517]

big biz38 . My comment Has nothing to do with all wheel drive, the car is front-wheel drive so I don't know what your point is by calling me names

[@serezhka021]

not if you have an auto tranny

[@klubstompers]

Yea, cause if you have an auto it would be easier, cause the car would be in park, and no need to do anything.

[@deZeeuws]

pls link to parts in the video ???