Upcoming Weapon Balance Changes & Easier Boss Items - Throne and Liberty

[@strondbokken]

Can they just fix the animation for focused fire bombs? Getting stuck in the cast is horrible.

[@urweakashell9211]

This happens when the target dies while charging, happens with flash wave too.

[@solisae]

@@urweakashell9211 flash wave doesnt require a target lol

[@ancymon9869]

GOD PLEASE

[@RonIbarra]

@@urweakashell9211 It can rarely happen when target is alive or goes stealth also or runs too fast out of screen.

[@urweakashell9211]

@ you can still target something and it bugs.

[@JonasGrumby]

healing touch shares a cool down with wand healing? fuck that. The only nerf that needs to happen is to tanks so they can't sit in the middle of 5 people and live. Last I checked tanks don't use bow / wand.

[@PapaRabii]

Yeah, unnecessary

[@shiratorr]

​@@PapaRabii nah it's needed

[@eruugor9633]

@@PapaRabii it was absolutely needed...it's a pvp nerf, some whale healers were legit immortal. in pve u don't even use both at the same time so

[@tellurmumgotohell]

Yeah fck that. But Wand/SNS is unstoppable, this will nerf them somehow. I feel sorry for the other Wand classes though, it will cripple them even more--bigtime.

[@Ithilis]

How that affects wand/sns if healing touch is a bow skill?

[@ramirss7060]

Hello sir, unrelated to these changes I was just wondering why did you delete your Melee Ev/Range BiS build (There's a Magic Ev one) and now it's an entirely different (much cheaper too) build. Is it still considered in fact BiS and better than the Swirling Essence set? C:

[@healerheals-p5k]

but,healing touch cd is like half of that of swift heal,how will it work? cast swift heal,and heal touch 5 sec cd will begin counting? anybody knows the explanation for this

[@vanitycrise358]

Love this format, keep going whelps!!

[@Tomivee03]

what is that healing touch nerf lmfaoooooo.

[@Jon-bm6nv]

pvp healing is too OP IMO thats why

[@Erumyr]

@@Jon-bm6nv BUT its not, people just dont know how to cc the healer and just kill the dps straight up, healer will run OOM hard in PVP cuz he doesnt run MANA effeciancy items. ITS BULLSHIT. People just have brainrot, and never played real pvp mmos in high end arena ratings

[@trouble2736]

lets goooooo the staf anitheal meta is here xD

[@taugrim]

80% debuff is too much. Didn't devs learn from WoW's Warrior class Mortal Strike that 50% is too much? I'm a Staff/Wand player and think this is too much.

[@kristiandy2386]

@@taugrim i think they need to add more debuff remover skills to balance it

[@brettlewis2900]

Staff wand about to go crazy. Will instantly be best support if you can dish out heals and in turn reduce 80% to anyone else. O.o That's a wild change

[@bdonnpm6855]

Hi whelps im a staff bow and following ur builds. Do you think arch bow or staff worth buying or no? Any tips will be appreciated. Thank you.

[@UnknownAdventurer]

Huh, so proccing a heal from my bow puts a heal from my wand on cool down, why? I don’t think two separate weapons should be putting one another spells on CD. It destroys rotations.

[@DequaLB]

Overly synergy.

[@Glubbdubdrib]

Yep. And with the nerf to Devoted Shield makes 1v1 with wand/bow nearly impossible against any build unless they fix the cooldown. If Swift healing gets Healing Touch's cooldown, that'd be nice actually.

[@pubgpan7279]

ur class not die in pvp they need to nerf it more

[@starproxx7144]

@@Glubbdubdrib u were already inmortal in 1v1 and you're crying cause you got nerfed? funny

[@shiratorr]

@@Glubbdubdrib healers will get gapped by xbow daggers

[@TheViaNuova]

Why would they change crossbow cc remove from selfless diffusion to mana exchange, make no sense at all. Now i gotta equip a useless skill in pvp just to overcome permastun from gs/sns

[@gabriel-madalinirimia678]

I think that skill is prolly the only skill in the whole fucking game that removes CC. Other classes dont have that. Quit bitching and take the L

[@mirvalo]

Exactly what i thought. Also increases the Cd by 30 seconds so you cant use it to refill your mana after the combo either. Really unnessesary nerf. This was like only ct play against no animation insta stuns

[@billkarp]

I was just saying that, so basically we got nerfed out of a skill.

[@gabriel-madalinirimia678]

@@billkarp u were too op in the first place. quit bitching

[@andreyz01]

Yeah why not u have second free trinket so shut up

[@FurpNate]

can you please add traits to the PvE BiS questlog build items? I like PvE and want to build around that for the future

[@Whelps]

Pve dont need trait

[@Moogle]

@@Whelps skill damage would still help pve no?

[@gial27]

frost master seems like a good swap for roxies arrowhead on b/s builds, but it becomes obsolete once u get the magic evasion from bow so probably not worth leveling up?

[@Orcthas]

Field boss extra boss reward: will it also work on archboss or only normal field bosses?

[@Moogle]

kanon seemed to think it was arch too, I mean they are field bosses still so

[@nevadabdo]

Can u do an in depth skill build guide for mass scale pvp updated? With video explaining

[@ImmolationBloom]

So I’m actually a little irritated at myself for taking a leap of faith and switching off Staff/wand for crossbow/dagger because “highly gear dependent” is an understatement. I had farmed up Rex XBow and Lequirus Daggers; maxed them out from Lucent I’d saved over 4 weeks. Hundreds of sales between my main and alt. Maybe I’m blind but on console no sustain makes this class feel ass. Contracts are bad. Rex procs literal 61 healing every 30s. I don’t know why I took time and farmed these. I switched to Fury (Crossbow/wand) expending all my 30ish skill books because I saw a cool build on Reddit that inspired me to try something new and that was a failure. I thought Bloodlust (which used to be called Opportunist) would lower cooldowns based on weaken applied and maintain stacks with burn damage. Fitting for the name Fury. However apparently before global that got reduced to standard damage buff and called Bloodlust. Just bad man. I can’t imagine the Devs play this game with an eye for both detail and fun. Nerfing synergy, to me at least is basically forcing people to not try anything new. Which makes no sense considering the meta pinhole they force everyone through. Every build should have strength synergies for their own respective play style. But instead you’re left with a bike missing wheels for a lot of these loadouts. What blows my mind, according to Reddit - This was something really awesome already existing in game and then they remove it abruptly before global launch. Maybe unemployment is what they’re after or just a vanilla cardboard dry game.

[@minimadladliam4884]

Is it also confirmed that the world boss participation chest rewards cannot be extracted and traded either since it only talks about lithographs?

[@ninolinoyt]

Weapons can't be litographed, but extracted. Everything else can both be litographed and extracted.

[@minimadladliam4884]

@@ninolinoyt 10/10 QoL change, can't wait for it to come to global

[@CommitJungle]

How is gs/dagger/sns 20 second cc chain not looked at :(

[@abdiellopez9935]

Bro literally i am done

[@ivancastro4571]

Build melee evasion ;)

[@cozzy6547]

Get good. How is bow/xbow/staff damage not looked at 😂 same strawman argument can be made little buddy

[@gabriel-madalinirimia678]

@@ivancastro4571not a good advice. Never evasion You re better off stacking debuf i in duration, it also lowers the stun duration and all other crap. Its pretty cheap and you can find it on most accesories and capes. On 4 equipment pieces is about 25% debuf duration reduction, which is pretty massive.

[@ofensatul]

​@@ivancastro4571literally nobody will do this , it's a complete waste to trait for melee when everything is ranged in open world.

[@maximumcarnage2077]

So this is the Korea update only?

[@justinserrano4506]

technically for the weapon changes. the field boss changes and the like they already announced a number of those changes are coming before the end of nov.

[@amazingcabbage39]

Melee evasion magic users already body me as gs sns. Now theyre super buffing them. Great

[@Moogle]

I mean no one builds melee evasion later on lol, just deal with it

[@amazingcabbage39]

@@Moogle lol what melee evasion is still king in t2

[@mistery264]

Any idea when this update will be live ? I can't wait for bow' pasive to get nerf. It is the most broken and stupid thing I've seen in a pvp game.

[@_Ikelos]

Greatsword nerfed, Daggers and Crossbow buffed? Are you sure you read these right?

[@thagift84]

Selfless diffusion not breaking CC is a huge nerf. Nobody really uses the mana skill in PvP so that’s pretty much a wasted slot if you want a cc break in PvP.

[@_Ikelos]

@@thagift84 you can now use selfless diffusion as a buff for 100% double attack rating and still have the CC break from the mana skill, that's an immense buff to Barrage in large scale what are you even talking about?

[@moys5100]

what these DEVS SMOKING STAFF already OP in PVP

[@deustauries]

I find the healer nerf weird. The shared cooldown is beyond stupid. The bow passive nerf is also weird. 30% hp to trigger if they have a weaken effect. Pointless passive now. There were so many work arounds that passive. And next, the staff buff is also absurd. Why? Why do 1 shot fireball users get buffs in half their abilities. Lol. Tabks now are about to become useless. Watch.

[@mininovaq]

So they buff greatsword - most op class, and nerf all others. At this point I am sure NCS emplys noobs wihout rpg experience. I'm also quite sure they don't play their game. How do you stun somebody with a greatsword without cutting them in half?

[@Unknowz24]

is in korea o new ?

[@lemonplays-gaming]

I want a damage meter so I can see how much I am doing and compare different setups.

[@Azranihil]

Hell nah! It would create elitism and disqualify 99 of classes. We don't need damage meters.

[@nobody5648]

agree !!!

[@nobody5648]

@@Azranihilyou dont need but a lot people need it

[@Azranihil]

@@nobody5648 no, it will ruin the game. Not everything is about dps.

[@manadrive]

dps andy ew

[@relaxandmeditate7486]

So... no sns, gs, dagger nerf?!?!?!? WTF....Ill just change to gs dagger at this point I got like 34 or 35 skill chancges...

[@aeroljohn3331]

ABSORB ABSORB ABSORB ABSORB

[@Mumuyal]

ahahahah

[@JJ-is4wm]

well its korea...

[@Tomivee03]

Might as well remove healing touch.

[@Sniper-Joseph]

Yeah if they nerf healers I’m switching my build. Healers don’t have a lot of tools to fight in PvP and if they make the cool down too long to use heal then they won’t survive and furry attacks from daggers, crossbow, great swords and bows.

[@antesudar2647]

Playing longbow/xbow and i dont see many people playing xbow/longbow only i see build on youtube gs dagger sns staff

[@arstgera]

How is that build? Planning to try that combo

[@InsaniityKills_]

Do you know any KZbinr that’s really good at crossbow dagger pvp? Wondering if it can be done well.

[@Moogle]

uncommon AGS W

[@tibi___]

meanwhile, in the global version they reduced the number of portals for a world boss from 5 to 2..

[@captainteemo1264]

oh shet !!!!

[@thevalorantguy8615]

GS stuns need a nerf seriously how do they not address that

[@cozzy6547]

Nawwwww diddums. Staff, bow and xbow deal too much damage, and have insane movement speed, so melee weapons need roots and stuns. Ggez get good noob.

[@CarlinhosVazo]

it should get buffed to bypass evasion

[@ifeawosika966]

Nerf stun and give them good aoes. Im for it

[@ecosti]

in general GS has stun's as cc, they have high hp cz of passives / they have big dmg cz of skills / they have melee hit cz of passives ! i dont know it feels too much they need to remove something , like dagger has evasion and critical thats it but seems GS got all the good stats and a lot of different ones , remove the hp then maybe or the hit , cz melee is really hard to get ur hit chance high u need to give up on something

[@Trolololeos]

How have you not addressed your skill issue?

[@inertia4462]

WHELPYYYY :3

[@justinasbar]

there is no balance and wont be as long as you can wield 2 weapons, it is that simple. And pvp is prob weakest link of this game, just because of evasion meta. I play gs/dagger with >2.1k melee evasion, 950 ranged and 970 hit. Shit sometimes feel op af, sometimes get clapped, it is complete RNG. Instead of trying to balance what is impossible considering how classes work, they should work on complete rework of evasion/hit meta and reduce amount of CC. Lineage 2 (c3-c6) is far more superior game in terms of how pvp worked.

[@funkyaura949]

right there with you but they wont change it sadly

[@Tigera12]

agreed. i have 1k hit, and all attack missed.

[@PurrBass]

You sound like a BDO player.

[@TheZerosd]

Well U didn't play Kalonline than when evasion is basically set up so that you need more hit rate than someone had evasion to be able to hit them the same goes for TL U went full Eva and now U cry about hit rate lol the game is set up so that U have to sacrifice something to gain something L2 is complete different game can't compare stats from L2 to TL lol

[@Niamak]

another nerf to sleep/curse bomb

[@aldodzb]

ncsoft can you delete dps thanks

[@ForOneNature]

gg gg

[@ssdeaglez]

We don't need you to read patch notes, anyone can do that. We need you to provide ur thoughts and opinions on these changes - how you think they will affect meta/are they good or not

[@Trolololeos]

Why don't you create your own thoughts. You sheep.

[@Gleandra]

Those were my thoughts as well. Quite disappointing. I expected him to speak on the ice meteor staff changes.

[@Kurdent1]

@@Gleandra who cares about pve skill

[@Gleandra]

@@Kurdent1 Everyone should.

[@Kurdent1]

@@Gleandra pve is so easy, it doesn't matter at all

[@Dakkuu]

sleep bomba no ;-;

[@JR-kv6ez]

ice spear nerf is doodoo

[@leckteck5694]

omg longbow staff even better now!!

[@stonersowybogacz844]

Why

[@stylixz3976]

​@@stonersowybogacz844staff dmg getting buff

[@ifeawosika966]

​@@stylixz3976as if they didnt have enough already lol

[@Ch33ch007]

At least we have chance to dodge stun.

[@throneandliberty-d1u]

ggs my babyboy i love you

[@icecolddood]

does this patch will also apply on global server ?

[@lamp6381]

He literally answers your question in the first 20 seconds of the video. Did you even watch?

[@Keyshawn13]

Probably will later

[@icecolddood]

@@lamp6381 nope, im the guy who just skip all the detail lmao, cheers

[@mearsite]

Flashwave still no change. great!

[@DarkBiCin]

Community: "GS needs a nerf it does everything too well" Devs: "and I took that personally"

[@joostgoedegebure4948]

is this for korean server or global server (early access) ?

[@lamp6381]

he answers your question 20 seconds into the video, hope this helps!

[@Caperonn]

My Soft is comically bad at rewarding skill and addressing stun locks

[@lcar0808]

The koreans are not even complaining and yet global servers are crying 😂.

[@billkarp]

No one is playing in korea kid.

[@user-wq1kl4so6f]

yes because you've been on their forums a lot and saw them being happy with everything. Btw you should know this game doesnt have half the popularity in Kr than it does on Global. Basically a dead mobile game

[@FedDonovan]

No buff damage to any wand ability...they are underwhelming

[@cesar_candanozah]

It would be op otherwise… I’m sns/wand

[@Jon-bm6nv]

wand's utility is enough..do you want everyone to switch to wand? LOL

[@FedDonovan]

@@Jon-bm6nv idont want to heal period ....i want damage ..annd they should do damage like everyone else why am i force to play healer

[@Kurdent1]

yeah hitting for 17k damage with curse explosion in pvp is not enough, please up even more touch of despair or curse of explosion, thank you

[@cesar_candanozah]

@@Kurdent1 really? Wow

[@lucianozamora3649]

GS stun you 10 seconds, and they not nerf it .. amazon, lmao

[@Ch33ch007]

I agree should be nerf to half, we have chance to dodge it now though lol

[@karnap9905]

Would it be balanced if gs players are not able to keep you in close range?

[@thagift84]

@@karnap9905by having 3 gap closers?

[@donridwano]

so healer nerf + increase dmg for staff andys? goddamn does the staff whales whine that hard?

[@nobody5648]

really2 need dps meter so i can kick low dps lazy on my dungeon

[@thagift84]

I think that’s why they don’t

[@mr.guizee7764]

The lack DoT dmg builds for staff and wand just show how pathetic this game is. They forgot they were doing a Mmo and gave this bad mobile game

[@LiquidSens3]

Quit

[@BGIANAKy]

Stfu. Make your own build

[@dan_963_]

dot is niche. we are not here to satisfy every fantasy fetish

[@lamp6381]

Cry

[@dankofengland4206]

Init go cry about it to someone thats cares little buddy 😂

[@bone1890]

People complaining about gs stun litearlly dont know how the game works and is just bad at the game.

[@bernardallanso7397]

Found the gs dagg playerr 😋

[@karstenv4819]

He is nothing without his gs lmao

[@billkarp]

If you use a stun break or perfect dodge they still can stun you again and prone you and in general if you get prone just stand up and walk away.

[@user-wq1kl4so6f]

its always the gs players that say shit like this lmao

[@Kurdent1]

@@billkarp kite ? melee evasion? terrible hit range and targeting? anti cc? also they will add immune CC gauge And GS are only useful in small scale, which rarely happens. It's trash in gvg, they get instant killed They have to nerf GS mobility skills, not the stun.

[@tellurmumgotohell]

prevent gate keeping? man... the devs sure love to cater to the cry babies.

[@kiyoshikaze2606]

Now Eclipse is useless shit - thanks NC Soft :D

[@wildlifehappiness]

U can use it for saurodoma chest farming 😁

[@lamp6381]

Cry

[@thec9424]

@@kiyoshikaze2606 cry more or go dedicate your entire existence to the next game. Cry on that and move on like your ilk does.

[@GenDrake3]

this mobile game makes me so glad im back on new world

[@DSRedBoi]

Sounds like a skill issue.

[@mvryck]

This is copy of new world wcyd 😂

[@GenDrake3]

@mvryck tab target pvp is very mid. Action combat actually takes skill at least.

[@lincolnjohnson4428]

@@GenDrake3 I would never associated New World with any form of Skill. If you want a skilled action combat play BDO.

[@GenDrake3]

@lincolnjohnson4428 that's tab but ok. Bdo isn't even close