When A Low Tier Changed Melee Forever

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Lil Homie

Lil Homie

Күн бұрын

In 2020, a Melee Marth Player decided to drop down to the bottom tier, picking Roy, the 6th worst character in the game. In the end, history was created.
This is the story of The Wrath of Roy
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0:00 Intro
1:46 Why is Roy Terrible?
3:07 Tournament Begins
12:31 The Wrath of Roy Awakens
15:52 The Final Boss
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@ax0l297
@ax0l297 Жыл бұрын
>ditches main >mains a ''bad'' character >makes his username ''DontTestMe'' as a provocation >destroys the enitre tournament >makes the grand finalist rage quit chad
@Galdr
@Galdr Жыл бұрын
Indeed. A Gigachad imo. This was so awesome to watch ngl. Also your comment is just perfect.
@yams7355
@yams7355 Жыл бұрын
Then grandfinalist literally be like "I'm not mad" hehehe
@queuedjar4578
@queuedjar4578 Жыл бұрын
@@yams7355 To ginger's credit, This rona rumble was played on delay based netcode, which does give Roy a lot of advantage over Falco especially since inputs would get dropped and lag spikes would be a lot more unpredictable. As someone who did play a lot of Roy on anther's ladder with delay based netcode, and has cheesed a lot of Falcos, I can actually understand completely if one were salty. Ginger took it well.
@yams7355
@yams7355 Жыл бұрын
@@queuedjar4578 fair
@prw56
@prw56 Жыл бұрын
@@queuedjar4578 Knowing that doesn't change how happy I was that roy won. I don't know how that disadvantage compares to the low tier character disadvantage, but its really boring seeing the same characters play and win every time. Anyone who mixes it up and actually manages to go the distance feels like a fuckin hero.
@Khan-bq8qc
@Khan-bq8qc Жыл бұрын
He proved that a skilled Roy can beat any Fox
@Khan-bq8qc
@Khan-bq8qc Жыл бұрын
also really well done vid deserves more views
@YungLilBoii
@YungLilBoii Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a meme. It was a prophecy...
@moistmarsupial3528
@moistmarsupial3528 Жыл бұрын
And that... is destiny fulfilled
@carnage0685
@carnage0685 Жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder if he actually meant like, when both are played at their maximum potential, Roy will almost always win, like, the character just naturally beats Fox or something.
@memekip7499
@memekip7499 Жыл бұрын
The year Is no longer 20XX...
@MitchBurns
@MitchBurns Жыл бұрын
Ginger did the calmest most polite and respectful rage quit I’ve ever seen.
@queuedjar4578
@queuedjar4578 Жыл бұрын
8:30 to clarify this interaction, DTM did actually get the correct hitbox of reverse up B (the first hitbox is the one that kills puff), though it's a hitbox with set knockback, meaning that at any percent, this move won't actually kill puff on battlefield off the floor (barring some very bad DI). The percentage is completely irrelevant, even at 999% the reverse up B still sends puff at the same height. It will only kill off the floor at 0% on stages with low ceilings (FD, Yoshi's, Stadium).
@SimbyDimby
@SimbyDimby 10 ай бұрын
I used this tactic to get the Mr Resetti 5 cruel melee ko's back in the day. Nice to know why it worked!
@RisingRevengeance
@RisingRevengeance Жыл бұрын
Always fun to see "bad" characters do well
@marlin4393
@marlin4393 Жыл бұрын
DK gang rise up
@beauhendershot7911
@beauhendershot7911 Жыл бұрын
Hey all im saying is that the bad did not have to be in quotation’s, Roy is indeed horrible
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk Жыл бұрын
@@beauhendershot7911 He has disadvantages but he can’t be the sixth worst character if you can potentially win with him.
@beauhendershot7911
@beauhendershot7911 Жыл бұрын
@@GatorOne-in7hk roy is way more exploitable than the other low tiers imo, his moves are just way too weak and other characters like young link, game and watch, mewtwo, dk, and big link are all way better than him
@lemmycetay9632
@lemmycetay9632 Жыл бұрын
@@GatorOne-in7hk We are talking about one of (if not) the best player in the game, this win isn't bc of roy, it's just that zain is a fucking good player
@spudsbuchlaw
@spudsbuchlaw Жыл бұрын
Things i've learned from this video: -Roy is the best character in melee -Zain is untestable, and therefore, unscientific
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 11 ай бұрын
the only things that matter in life are untestable.
@Prod.4D
@Prod.4D 11 ай бұрын
@@Icemario87no cap
@ladygeneveve3805
@ladygeneveve3805 8 ай бұрын
​@@Icemario87i dunno, food tastes pretty good
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 8 ай бұрын
@@ladygeneveve3805 Cannibals say people taste like pork.
@StanleySophana
@StanleySophana Жыл бұрын
As someone who mains Roy, seeing DontTestMe win a tourney with Roy was the best thing to happen in Melee history
@fangzgaming5510
@fangzgaming5510 Жыл бұрын
I main Luigi and Roy, seeing others play these two is awesome. Glad my mains finally getting respect.
@fangzgaming5510
@fangzgaming5510 Жыл бұрын
*our mains getting respect*
@kamariz3153
@kamariz3153 Жыл бұрын
🥲
@Styxz__
@Styxz__ Жыл бұрын
Same
@simplyhoodie
@simplyhoodie Жыл бұрын
I main Link, so I love seeing low teirs do well in any form.
@vampenga9277
@vampenga9277 Жыл бұрын
Growing up I played a lot of Roy. I wasn't aware/cared about the competitive side and the whole tiers thing back then so I just played for fun. I just liked him as a character. So all these years later seeing someone put genuine time and effort into practicing Roy and having it pay off is just phenomenal. Mad props to Don'tTestMe.
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 11 ай бұрын
same, here
@Kpsla
@Kpsla Жыл бұрын
Imagine being Ginger in what could have been the greatest comeback victory in Melee history and losing it all to a bottom 5 character.
@IToastMySocks
@IToastMySocks Жыл бұрын
Eh, it could still be seen as a good comeback. Zain just overcame all the obstacles in his path and came out on top.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 Жыл бұрын
RIP BOZO
@andrew-coronel-9016
@andrew-coronel-9016 Жыл бұрын
ROY'S OUR BOY.
@saltyralts
@saltyralts Жыл бұрын
the juxtaposition of Marth against Roy in Melee is pretty accurate to their games, lol Marth solos his game while Roy eats dirt and does 3 damage a hit
@gonegone963
@gonegone963 Жыл бұрын
ROY’S OUR BOY.
@EverythingArchived703
@EverythingArchived703 11 ай бұрын
ROY'S OUR BOY.
@jajajaun
@jajajaun 7 ай бұрын
BOY’S OUR ROY.
@Captaincookie_yt
@Captaincookie_yt 7 ай бұрын
I CANT BELIVE DONT TEST ME THE ROY HAS BEATEN BOBBY BIG BALLLS
@matthewzakrzewski1797
@matthewzakrzewski1797 Жыл бұрын
When you were explaining the reverse up-b, zain did hit the right hit of it. It's just that the kill only works on stages with lower ceilings, particularly yoshi story and pokemon stadium.
@OhSoSnake
@OhSoSnake Жыл бұрын
But with more % racked up, the kill potential DOES return: on medium stages, I'd wager that Roy UpB starts to kill around 20-30%, and maybe at like 50% on Dreamland and Fountain, but yeh.
@amadora6476
@amadora6476 3 ай бұрын
it either kills at 0 or it doesnt kill you can maybe kill from a plattfrom tho @@OhSoSnake
@ClassicBentobox
@ClassicBentobox Жыл бұрын
I’ve always believed Roy is a slightly underrated character greatly overshadowed by how op Marth is
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko Жыл бұрын
That is a pretty accurate summation. He is only slightly underrated. But the contrast to Marth makes the difference so palpable and painful.
@bluedistortions
@bluedistortions 10 ай бұрын
Same
@dinospumoni5611
@dinospumoni5611 4 күн бұрын
nah Roy is absolute fucking ass, Zain is just that good
@ClassicBentobox
@ClassicBentobox 3 күн бұрын
@@dinospumoni5611 Say what you will even a year later I can’t in good faith say he’s in the same tier as Zelda and Bowser but maybe I’ll be shown wrong when someone pushes them this far
@sipinosapa
@sipinosapa Жыл бұрын
Finally. A skilled Roy
@kaja3932
@kaja3932 Жыл бұрын
finally, Fox is no more
@flameblade3
@flameblade3 Жыл бұрын
This, to me, isn’t just a message to Roy mains, but to low tier players everywhere. Melee is one of the more tier heavy fighting games I know of, and seeing a near bottom tier take home a hard fought victory against both top tiers and bad matchups is such a strong message of “low tier doesn’t mean shit if you don’t let it”
@tigerwarrior1787
@tigerwarrior1787 Жыл бұрын
As Abridged Vegeta once said: "Powerlevels are Bullsh**!"
@TheBrimmyRat
@TheBrimmyRat Жыл бұрын
@@tigerwarrior1787 “Come on, Roy, with your tier list placement? You are no Jigglypuff, you are no Marth, and you are CERTAINLY no spacie. You are just Roy.” “Well, you know what? FUCK TIER LIST PLACEMENTS, FUCK SPACIES. AND FUCK YOU.”
@rayzuke1232
@rayzuke1232 Жыл бұрын
This message should have always been clear since H-Box took championships with Jigglypuff.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko Жыл бұрын
​@Rayzuke I feel like people forgot that jigglypuff used to be rated way lower.
@rayzuke1232
@rayzuke1232 Жыл бұрын
@@FFKonoko For real. Only H-Box manages it to get into the top 10 with Jigglypuff consistently . No one else displayed that amount skill. But now seemingly no one seems to acknowledge that Jigglipuff is a low Tier character even when said character has only 2 viable moves as oppose to half of the moveset to be viable.
@Alexrun902
@Alexrun902 Жыл бұрын
Zain's truly earned the title of best player in the world since he's able to dominate tournaments with his Marth and be a low tier legend with Roy at the same time.
@aicunix
@aicunix Жыл бұрын
i think that this is a testament to the fact that the most important skill of melee is not wave-shining or being frame perfect. it's being able to adapt
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised that this happened. Roy always felt like a character who could have been good, but was held back by just three significant issues - particularly, his questionable recovery, combo bait fast fall and his terrible range. If you ignore that he's basically just a rushdown-focused version of Marth. It takes a lot of effort, but if you can get around his flaws Roy _can_ be pretty solid, it's just that the difficulty of working around those flaws is the problem.
@Appletank8
@Appletank8 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the devs forgot to give Roy an actual sweet spot around his hand, it’s just not a sour spot. It’s so sad seeing that pool noodle of a sword get aerials that barely stun or knock back.
@Bigzthegreat
@Bigzthegreat Жыл бұрын
nah this is fox coppeium, because he played such a bad character he just got better
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Жыл бұрын
@@Bigzthegreat Right, because obviously top tiers are "just good" and bottom tiers are "just bad", no other reason for it. Dumbass.
@YyNRCyY
@YyNRCyY 9 ай бұрын
I disagree. the one thing no one has commented on is the caliber of players in this tournament. U switch ginger with Hbox, Cody schwab, moky, jmook, mang0, amsa… literally any top 10 and he’s getting beat Roy is shit marth. Even with all the experience he has on a similar character he barely won. Testament to zains skills and Roy’s shitness
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber 9 ай бұрын
@@YyNRCyY Yeah, that's an is-aught fallacy and a fallacy of four terms all wrapped up into a single argument. You've made no actually statements about Roy, all you've basically tried to say is that "the character is bad because the player would be beaten by other players if they were competing".
@TeamHeropon
@TeamHeropon Жыл бұрын
Low tier characters can lead to some fun match ups. If you win, you get people interested in that character and feel like a badass for your skill. If you lose, it's because you were using a low tier character for fun.
@newjumpcityjosh9333
@newjumpcityjosh9333 Жыл бұрын
This is how majority of DK players in Ultimate feel Lmao it’s always a win win for them 😂
@milesprower6110
@milesprower6110 Жыл бұрын
Is this the consequences of people ignoring a characters because of a table that the day they end up facing such character, it's unknown for them?
@vocalcalibration8033
@vocalcalibration8033 Жыл бұрын
Basically. A lack of matchup knowledge, not knowing what they need to do against a character with their own. It is low tier characters greatest strength at a competitive level.
@Spiffyo
@Spiffyo Жыл бұрын
Yeah a friend whose a pretty costant ultimate player doesn't really expect me to go in with Link to attack with my sword since he's generally considered a spacey. Hell I like playing Isabelle and trounch swordfighters as she and villager have a unique playstyle that they aren't used to.
@bradfjord
@bradfjord Жыл бұрын
People quit out against low tiers most of the time. Makes it harder to learn to play and learn to fight the wacky low tiers.
@thegamingguy1
@thegamingguy1 Жыл бұрын
It's not like it's hubris that people don't know this matchup like that, there are just literally no other Roy players close to Zains skill. It's not that people are under cutting bad characters, Zain is just on a different level. I've been going to my local like 2 years and never played a Roy. Theyre just not out there, it's not that people ignore the matchup.
@redhand8836
@redhand8836 Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingguy1 actually it's a self fulfilling prophecy situation, happens in a lot of fighting games. Tier lists get made, usually early on before any tech or strats are heavily labbed. People focus on the higher tiers to lab, as the meta evolves it becomes based around the high tiers that were picked out early on(unless some wildcard shenanigans happen and a low tier gets bumped up due to someone actually developing tech for it early on instead of sleeping on it), after a while people only play the characters that got heavily labbed as high tiers in the games beginning, and the low tiers are now justified as such due to not having the same tools as the characters the meta is based off of now, so no one plays them because they're low tier. It's not necessarily hubris, or even a flawed system, it's just one of those quirks of the format. They're low tier so no one plays them, and no one plays them because they're low tier.
@typicalchris1941
@typicalchris1941 Жыл бұрын
Just so you know Roy’s reverse up b only has one hit box the only reason why Jigglypuff didn’t die is because battlefield has a high ceiling. Yoshis story FD and PS are the only Tournament Legal stages where it will kill on the ground at Zero
@Masaru_kun
@Masaru_kun Жыл бұрын
Nice i appreciate you pointing out how impressive Ginger's loser's run was, beating Dawson, Aklo, KJH, Reeve, and BBB all in convincing manner.
@sonsauvage
@sonsauvage Жыл бұрын
Any man with a Shiba as a pet has unlimited patience and dedication, and when it comes to training them, a sheer force of will. So I'm not surprised at the result at all 😂
@juuseu4083
@juuseu4083 9 ай бұрын
As someone who never played professionally, but played Roy all the time as a kid, this really warms my heart to see an underrated character kick ass. 😎
@Pixel_Drip
@Pixel_Drip 8 ай бұрын
You can't even blame Ginger for the quit. He won 5 consecutive games AND reset the loser bracket just for it to all be gone in the blink of an eye. He still had the courtesy to admit defeat and say ggs to Zain. Amazing.
@Kmn483
@Kmn483 Жыл бұрын
As a once hardcore dedicated roy main, it's nice that he finally got a tourney win. People really don't expect much out of him.
@apleb7605
@apleb7605 Жыл бұрын
The prophecy of a Skilled Roy has been fulfilled.
@milk-dq7fu
@milk-dq7fu Жыл бұрын
Shoutouts to ginger. Took the loss well. Even if he was actually upset he did the right thing. The goat
@zogbogbean2464
@zogbogbean2464 10 ай бұрын
He cried and ran, that’s not takin it well.
@Cainb23
@Cainb23 9 ай бұрын
in what world is that taking it well? taking it well is letting the game play out, congratulating the opponent, and not instantly getting of stream. not rage quitting and passive aggressively saying gg nd leaving stream instantly lmao
@keksidy
@keksidy Жыл бұрын
It finally happened A skilled Roy beat Fox
@MushokuShiro
@MushokuShiro Жыл бұрын
Bro, thank you for this video. This needed to be documented, someone had to do it, and you did it. Here's a sub
@MushokuShiro
@MushokuShiro Жыл бұрын
Man's even got a fresh cut to make the video. That's how you know he's committed.
@leogonzalez6751
@leogonzalez6751 Жыл бұрын
Congrats man ❤️ I know you were working hard on this
@arbytimber
@arbytimber Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this video format. You pitched the story together so perfectly. Like a melee summoning salt. Keep it up dude👍
@joeysummers8830
@joeysummers8830 Жыл бұрын
How come Bobby gets his butt shown and everyone else gets a respectable face shot 😂
@Nixdigo
@Nixdigo Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with your videos is I feel like you have three different introductions that all convey the same information. Words are a lot like photographs one photo is better than a whole album. Subscribed
@Piggles64099
@Piggles64099 Жыл бұрын
This video was an absolute masterpiece and such a treat to watch! Keep on keep’n on!
@sleepdrowsy7286
@sleepdrowsy7286 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos Nice to have a consistent melee channel to watch
@SPMask
@SPMask Жыл бұрын
Roy didn't change the meta, Zain did, still waiting on him to go back to him :/
@GatorOne-in7hk
@GatorOne-in7hk Жыл бұрын
I don’t think you can call Roy a low tier if he was able to do this. Don’tTestMe is a freaking hero to Roy mains everywhere!
@chrispo7610
@chrispo7610 Жыл бұрын
P sure zain himself calls roy bad lol
@kirbyfreakyt4695
@kirbyfreakyt4695 Жыл бұрын
Also his hitboxes are broken and end early He's most certainly bad... But just like Little Mac, it always feels like he has a CHANCE when used right.
@Non-disjunction
@Non-disjunction Жыл бұрын
Roy is incredible bad, but shares some neutral options with Marth, in which Zain is incredibly good with
@tezereth
@tezereth Жыл бұрын
He’s low because of some weakness in how he’s design, but never forget that he still do the work if you play properly.
@Left4Cake
@Left4Cake Жыл бұрын
I don't think characters are teired based on 1 guy getting insanely good with them.
@im50yearsold
@im50yearsold 8 ай бұрын
The same can be said for a lot of low tier/trash strategies in games with established metas when played at a high level. Bring in something really weird and throw your opponents off who are only used to playing within meta constraints
@hibernate44
@hibernate44 Жыл бұрын
Videos like these are so important for getting new players. Great work.
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 Жыл бұрын
Fear the man who practices one character 1000 times...
@BlinzerOmega
@BlinzerOmega Жыл бұрын
i really like the effort and cinematic way you made the vid, it's really good work. keep it up man!
@jakegripss
@jakegripss Жыл бұрын
Awesome work, nice to see the enthusiasm at the end too!
@comagreeny7194
@comagreeny7194 Жыл бұрын
8:30 It was not the hitbox, it was the map and jigglypuffs DI. Pretty sure Roy only has 1 hitbox with that huge of a set knockback.
@mysteriousghosts935
@mysteriousghosts935 Жыл бұрын
Yo nice documentary !! really like the story everytime you talk about story i didn't knew about always awesome to discover piece of history in smash !!!
@chillmadude
@chillmadude Жыл бұрын
i feel like "killed at this percent, which is like someone else killing at that percent" is really obvious to the point of being redundant for those who already play melee, while being an unintelligible string of gibberish for those who dont
@morphball2314
@morphball2314 Жыл бұрын
8:35 he did get the correct hitbox, it just doesn't kill on that stage, BF ceiling is too high
@twobrosgamers8426
@twobrosgamers8426 Жыл бұрын
Falco: Give up low tier scum! Roy: I made a promise to take this trophy to Lilina, and I'm gonna keep it!
@eddiestilll
@eddiestilll Жыл бұрын
i remember when the pandemic first started, this was like the craziest thing to happen to melee when donttestme dropped LOL
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba 11 ай бұрын
The irony of the situation is that we usually underestimate those low tiers and end up paying the price big time for that, the lesson here is always think that you need to take the fight seriously right from the get-go, no matter what.
@YyNRCyY
@YyNRCyY 9 ай бұрын
I think rather it shows it’s the player not the character to some degree. Players like Armada arguably the goat on a character that hasn’t seen any high placings since his retirement. kinda strange with how dominant he was that none of the top players even tried to pick her up as even a secondary. Or players like Hbox who was on a crazy run several years ago and made people mald and rethink matchups as well as garner so much hate and bitching (Leffen when anything isn’t going his way or to his little goblin ass liking)
@DrDeez-do9zo
@DrDeez-do9zo Жыл бұрын
Seeing people just wreck the competition with characters many would see as "bad" just makes melee feel so much more fun in a way i cant fully describe. Its also nice to know that playing these unvonventional characters started with hungrybox's jigglypuff.
@hannibal8810
@hannibal8810 Жыл бұрын
mang0 was winning tourneys with puff before hbox, and the idea that a top tier like her is at all comparable to roy is ridiculous
@t-wrexgamer6294
@t-wrexgamer6294 Жыл бұрын
If you want to know how Roy’s reverse up b works it’s because the move is a multi hit, however in order to make it connect properly the first hit has a fixed knockback that is absurdly high, reversing the up b can let you hit that one hitbox without anything else and the fixed knockback is so high that the lighter characters in the game just straight out die to it, this includes puff who’s really the only one it matters against.
@nickdoe8774
@nickdoe8774 Жыл бұрын
Happy you’re doing this, liked and subscribed I want to see more. I really like your editing and the music you choose. Improve that writing and we got Tdfw 2 on the way
@dogindagrass
@dogindagrass Жыл бұрын
Roy was my main when I was a kid! Love seeing this stuff!
@Riako
@Riako Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that characters are only low tier because no one has truly used them to their full potential. (...excluding the times when the character, genuinely, actually and definitely sucks...)
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
@slimballs9650
@slimballs9650 10 ай бұрын
20:12 It’s the same with me and my voice sometimes. When I hear myself talk, I sound perfectly fine, and then I hear my voice in a recording and it sounds downright awful.
@auraguard0212
@auraguard0212 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Roy just Marth with an enigmatic sweet spot?
@QuintBlitz
@QuintBlitz Жыл бұрын
As a true Roy main, this video instantly warms my heart, thanks for the upload!
@QuintBlitz
@QuintBlitz 11 ай бұрын
@@brothir Someone who plays Roy for fun in game 1, but switches to a higher tier should they lose.
@kaded_
@kaded_ Жыл бұрын
I love this new era of melee video essays
@nathangonzalez-
@nathangonzalez- Жыл бұрын
Ahh my day is slightly better now that you dropped this video, thank you man 🤝
@soniccane1117
@soniccane1117 Жыл бұрын
Some amazing storytelling here! Great video and great Melee.
@WhatsWrongBuddy
@WhatsWrongBuddy Жыл бұрын
broooo this video is amazing, can'twaitfor morelike these
@YOSSARIAN313
@YOSSARIAN313 Жыл бұрын
Keep covering low tier legends its great. Id love to see a video on the best tournament run of a game and watch or bowser player
@KindaKaon
@KindaKaon Жыл бұрын
Completely mad to me you’re only at 3k subs. Keep at it man, you have such a talent
@Ryanzba
@Ryanzba Жыл бұрын
I love the background music I feel like im making a venture through the sahara
@smashbrosfiend
@smashbrosfiend Жыл бұрын
fantastic video! thanks for telling this story
@jon630
@jon630 11 ай бұрын
I'm not upset, I just don't want to have to deal with whatever I'm about to experience.
@Doxsein
@Doxsein Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I enjoyed it and learned something interesting
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming Жыл бұрын
Roy's smash attack is unreal, was always blown away by what it does to somebody not even at 40%
@silaspq
@silaspq Жыл бұрын
unless its the noodle hitbox which dosent even kill puff at 150 which is insanly sad
@MarMaxGaming
@MarMaxGaming Жыл бұрын
@@silaspq so true, I just remember getting blasted by some friends back in the day.. the noodle hit box is a damn shame. I saw that puff moment in the vid too, very sad!
@Prikense
@Prikense 7 ай бұрын
the reverse upb only kills jiggly and G&W at 0% with no DI from the floor on pokemon stadium and yoshis, so even with bad DI at 8:15 on that stage at that height it would have never killed
@ddplzz
@ddplzz Жыл бұрын
Great docu my dude, watched the whole thing and gave a like. Gonna ad a commet to boost the algo. Keep it up my dude
@Thewildmanrules
@Thewildmanrules Жыл бұрын
Great vid! Keep it up :)
@LCDRformat
@LCDRformat 4 күн бұрын
"Proved that any Roy could win any tournament," "ANY" Roy?!? You sure bout that
@GioGiotaro
@GioGiotaro 8 ай бұрын
That was the most anime tournament I've ever seen, and I loved it!
@yaboiparalysis7435
@yaboiparalysis7435 Жыл бұрын
great video man
@rmg480
@rmg480 Жыл бұрын
It's like the accounts on treatises of sword masters in the day, saying that they should be as cautious when fighting a fool that has never used a sword as when facing one versed in the blade. An expert has fought countless other swordsmen before, and can anticipate how they'll act, but an untrained person with a sword will never do what you expect.
@FirePuff12
@FirePuff12 11 ай бұрын
Love this video 🔥
@nicung4946
@nicung4946 6 күн бұрын
The horribly stretched melee gives this such a retro melee feel
@ariesomega2487
@ariesomega2487 Жыл бұрын
This also shows how bad many top players are at the low tier mu. Jflexs approach is a valid one against roy. Roy struggles against platform camping, but the top tier in this case sheik has to execute the punishes perfectly... Well lets just say no one in that tourney had a clue on how to edgeguard roy
@carlosfromearth
@carlosfromearth Жыл бұрын
I have waited so many years for a player to show off Roy. Finally here.
@TheIrrelevantYT
@TheIrrelevantYT Жыл бұрын
Zain, Round 2: "Then something just snapped, something inside of me." (DEADLY GUITAR RIFF)
@samuelrodrigues9071
@samuelrodrigues9071 Жыл бұрын
_I didn't care anymore._
@chaincat33
@chaincat33 Жыл бұрын
this is how important the metagame is. Not META, most effective tactic available, but the game around the game. There is no such thing as a character so skilled they can beat any other specific character. Because when that becomes the mentality, you get these shakeups. When people sleep on bad characters, they leave themseoves vulnerable to bad characters. Some are irreconcilably bad, I don't see a ganondorf winning a major tournament, but Roy? Well, it just happened here. He has the tools to make it work, and the fact that people wrote him off was in and of itself a tool to his advantage.
@luckybusinesssuit
@luckybusinesssuit Ай бұрын
Roy’s reverse up B on jigglypuff only kills on fd without platforms, the battlefield match with the puff he tried it without platforms which is why it didn’t kill, he did get the right hit box
@lucaswickmansound
@lucaswickmansound 7 ай бұрын
“DontTestMe” has the same exact energy as “I’m not gonna sugarcoat it”
@GoldenDeerGuy
@GoldenDeerGuy 7 ай бұрын
I was literally laughing about that meme last night 💀
@tigusvaton8406
@tigusvaton8406 Жыл бұрын
Been mailing roy since melee man this brought me nearly to tears 😭
@Quasartist
@Quasartist Жыл бұрын
You know, I'm not super informed about Smash overall, and I'm especially lacking in Melee knowledge, but I feel like every character has the potential to be the next aMSa's Yoshi. The game has had such a set-in-stone tier list for so long regarding the top 5 or 6 characters that it wouldn't surprise me to see Roy jumping 10 spots up if more people would commit to him and really optimize him by figuring out what works and what doesn't on a more technical level. Same could be said for a lot of characters. The spotlight is so narrow that anyone in their right mind trying to get into competitive would obviously pick Marth, Puff, Sheik, or a Spacey. I think a lot of characters are untapped because there's just not enough attention on them.
@mrbaconbeast8902
@mrbaconbeast8902 Жыл бұрын
The top tiers have been the same places for almost all the games lifetime but honestly the mid tier and tournament viable characters always change just because one dude picked them up and showed what's podsible
@queuedjar4578
@queuedjar4578 Жыл бұрын
As far as melee goes, there are some inherently just dogwater aspects of low tiers. Regardless, these weaknesses are null and void if someone can use their strengths well enough, especially given Melee's controls, tech, and movement options making the tier list a lot more flexible and more of a suggestion than a rule.
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 11 ай бұрын
The tier list grew out of millions of matches. Low tier characters are not low tier due to a lack of popularity. They lack popularity because they are low tier. Fox wasn't the favorite, Shiek was. It wasn't until people's skill level could begin to harness Fox's potential that Fox started to become more popular.
@hollowtrees6669
@hollowtrees6669 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize how crazy this run was Great video, important part of melees history
@runningdecadeix4780
@runningdecadeix4780 Жыл бұрын
I see this as pretty simple. He warned them not to test him, and they tested him. So they lost and he won. Shouldn't have tested him, that's all
@Prikense
@Prikense 7 ай бұрын
camping roy is the optimal play against him, his main weakness is his small range and bad combo game vs floaties, so camping him gets rid of his strenghts, that being mid punish with tech chases and grab and denies him his advantage of a good mobility while grounded,, camping him in platforms is specially difficult to handle as his aerials are very bad and he has a very bad shorthop for dealing with platforms and bad air mobility
@totalphantasm
@totalphantasm Жыл бұрын
I thought that pause-no context input was going to be followed with much much more rage lmao
@knownas2017
@knownas2017 Жыл бұрын
Incredible. We have found the skilled Roy. The Roy who can beat any Fox.
@gotgud
@gotgud Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid!
@cherryb0ng
@cherryb0ng 11 ай бұрын
I totally understand Ginger's rage quit. Because I just rage quit in another game. But he sort of kept his composure about it.
@robinthebird6421
@robinthebird6421 Жыл бұрын
When you make it to grand finals on losers side, its harder because you have to win 2 sets, in other words 6 games.
@L0jacIsBack
@L0jacIsBack 7 ай бұрын
I love how the Melee community is slowly figuring out how to make low tiers good. Back then we thought only like 1/5 of the characters were good but now you can really win with basically anybody
@nef36
@nef36 Жыл бұрын
This is the story of DontTestMe *The Rath of Wroy*
@BlueRadium
@BlueRadium 7 ай бұрын
ROY'S MY BOY! He was my main for my entire childhood. Glad little me' getting vilified
@pisslizard01
@pisslizard01 Жыл бұрын
can't believe this was already almost 3 years ago
@jimmygarza8896
@jimmygarza8896 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for someone to roflstomp a tournament with Pichu/Kirby/Bowser.
@gmanji909
@gmanji909 11 ай бұрын
Bobby got bopped so bad he didn't even make it in the video 😂
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