when buying USED PC parts, I wish I could have AVOIDED THIS! (Season 3 Flip Up Recap)

[@HazewinDog]

The problem with used PSUs here in The Netherlands (and I have no idea how it is elsewhere) is that people sell them for at most 10% off compared to a new quality unit, where I determine quality with the PSU tier list. At that point, it just makes no sense to buy them used. This has been the case year after year, even before the mining craze started. They're just consistently, vastly overpriced. Heck even for higher end PSUs, people genuinely demand around 150 AUD if not 200 AUD for a 7 year old modular 1000W PSU. I couldn't care less that you've paid hundreds for it and want it to have been a good investment. EDIT: There is one recycler that sells PSUs all the way in the north of the country, where I have ordered used PSUs before, however these mostly come from OEMs and the pictures aren't great, so it takes quite a bit of time to figure out the necessary information about the units and pick out the usable ones, again making it poor value.

[@techyescity]

:( that's a shame brother, JP and AUS and even when I was in the US it was a gold mine for used PSUs.

[@MrSamadolfo]

overpriced used parts is a real problem all over the world 😄 like Bruuuuh! what are you smoking!

[@gorjy9610]

Same here in Croatia, not just with PSU but with most hardware too. Prices are especially crazy with stuff like GPUs, for card like 6600 (or something similar powerful but older) best price you can find is around 20€ less than for a brand new card with 2y warranty. Older CPUs are also something you want to buy new, it's like people don't understand that today entry level 120€ CPU can eat their 5y old not-so-high-end processors for breakfast.

[@TrevorM1992]

He's right. I live in northern california and people will ask $50 for a used 600w power supply from like 6 years ago. I can get a new one for that price.

[@clautos2787]

That's my problem with the SSDs. Used SSDs with 3000+ hours of usage are at the exact same price as brand new ones.

[@physetermacrocephalus2209]

I know a Corsair power supply that has been running for 13 years 😎

[@aeroflopper]

i bought my cooler master in 2004 its still working in my daughters pc, and its been on everyday

[@TheNorthingNL]

Same. Corsair PSU bought in 2012 and will be used in my next build! 😄

[@Vitormarques542]

Antec 650 since 2010 latest build amd 5800x /red devil 6700xt

[@chovekb]

Just that they have literally different tiers of PSUs from average quality to top quality.

[@dev1anceONE]

Wait until some guy tells you that their PSU Tier list(which is mainly based on reviews from other websites) says that you have to replace these PSUs XD

[@Thumper68]

There’s nothing wrong with what you did with the psi guarantee. You stayed with the 100 dollars that’s all that matters and you did right by your customer.

[@MrSamadolfo]

As long as ur garanteeing then thats fine, plus when they come back u can upsell them or they can give u a referral.

[@ashenwattegedera]

In my country Intel CPU's and AMD AM4 motherboards are barely discounted from the brand new price in the used market, sometimes they ask for more than than the price of the part brand new.

[@xkxk7539]

Got a Super Flower Leadex Titanium 1600W from 10 years ago, used it in many different setups such as gaming, workstation, server and mining rig. Still working till this day on my workstation.

[@buda3d2007]

Posting your losses is gold, I have almost been hosed with a used card, there are just dodgy people out there, no ifs or buts, but I bought through ebay so I had them on my side, I did get a refund but I should have picked up on sideways language in the original sales posting like (only used for work and not games, kind of a red flag).

[@Lurch-Bot]

I ordered some DDR3 RAM recently and I bought what was advertised as 16GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX. They sent one half of the kit. If I had looked closer at the listing, I probably would have passed it right up. I had to open a case to get my money back because the seller just ghosted me. Then I got a Patriot G2 kit that ran fine at 1333 MHz but was totally unstable at the rated speed of 1600MHz. Got a refund on that. Seller was cool. It went into a retro gaming build I just did where it is working just fine, albeit at 1333MHz. Finally got a good kit of Corsair Vengeance Pro. By this time, I had just put some green stick RAM I had in the build I'm trying to sell and boxed it up so I had a 16GB kit for my new dedicated capture PC. The irony was the green stick kit benchmarked just as well as the Vengeance Pro kit, which just goes to show you that expensive RAM doesn't always net a performance increase.

[@josephdias5859]

i got hosed for a card but i got my money back and i and was able to fix the card and get for free it had some cracked solder joints

[@tradingnichols2255]

Hey, maybe if the Mhz is down, you can also decrease the latency and get some of that performance back? I had a 2300x that didn't like a 4000Mhz ram chip, and faster CPU's like my 5950x didn't like the 4000mhz as much as a 3800mhz even though it could go to those frequencies.@@Lurch-Bot Now the challenge was to get the post with the 4kMhz memory, but once I did, and lowered it to 3200, tried to be greedy higher 1 more time, but eventually I was at 3200. It worked... .. then I lowered latency a bunch as the memory kit was supposed to be stronger. Well, my KH/s went from 1.2 to 2.5 Kh/s and it's a kick but retro gamer now. :) I only bought the 2300x to try and get a x570 right for a 5800x3d working on it, but no success there yet.

[@amartin3893]

The RX 500 cards were great miners and put to work in their thousands in farms, and PCs world wide. Wouldn't be surprised if every RX 500 card you've been hosed on had a history of mining.

[@dev1anceONE]

Even that old HD 7xxx was used as miners years ago, so its hard to buy old GPU from random dude and be sure it will work, and today even used GeForce is not safe choice because from GTX 10xx was also used in miners so u never know if u get card from miner rig or gaming rig

[@MrNota500]

Yeah 100%. RX 500 series and GTX 1000 series are old and have lived a very tough life in the mine for sure. Same is true for anything up to the RX 6000 and RTX 3000. The used market will be safer in a few years when those cards are irrelevant. What a mess that whole GPU mining was/is.

[@patriclcool1968]

bought an rx 580 red devil for like $80. I overclocked a little bit and had lots of green and purple screen errors that shouldnt have been happening. I guess a 10 mhz overclock broke it xd.

[@Lurch-Bot]

I've bought GPUs from miners and from gamers. Guess who I got the one faulty card from...a gamer. Turns out a GPU doesn't cool very well with the heatsink filled with carpet lint and cat hair and neglect is a great way to kill a GPU. Meanwhile, far more miners than gamers actually maintain their hardware properly. Also, most miners are running their GPUs significantly undervolted whereas a lot of gamers just crank that power slider all the way up. I wouldn't be surprised if none of those bad RX580s had ever been mined on. That HD7970 was a total red flag he should have caught immediately and just left it in the box and kept his money. If there is that much buildup between the fins, you're highly unlikely to be satisfied with your purchase.

[@amartin3893]

@@Lurch-Bot What you are talking about is a few outliers. The ratio of 500 series cards for mining to gaming is likely 5:1. The idea of mining cards being lovingly taken care of by their owners is just misleading. Cards were only maintained to keep them fit for the purpose of mining. Miners ran their gpu's continuously 24/7 for years at a time. There is little doubt the high instances of failures in used 500 series gpu's is down to the sheer volume of them bought by miners.

[@radradR0bot]

The guys son thought he was getting $100. Instead, he got $50 and the belt.

[@Josh-gu5fy]

>BEFORE I LOSE MY SHIT Bryan you should offer out Jake Paul with that energy

[@techyescity]

Jake Paul would have a rough time in QLD.

[@Josh-gu5fy]

@@techyescity Straight outta Nerang, the Goldy will swallow him

[@michaelwood9866]

i tend to have a lot of spare parts so if something like the psu issue were to happen, then i would just replace it and then sell the pc accordingly....i don't take risks with half working parts i just replace them.

[@MrNota500]

You will sell a half working part? Odd, if it's broke it's junk, can it.

[@michaelwood9866]

@@MrNota500sorry wasnt clear enough i would sell the pc with a known good part

[@TheGameBench]

I recently got a good deal on a 3060 12GB off eBay. When it showed up, two of the display ports weren't working and it was running at 80 degrees with the fans at 100%. Thankfully, the seller agreed on the $20 partial refund, and I was able to fix the display ports, which I can see how he didn't know about those, but he had to know it was overheating. I don't know... maybe he thought it was just running normal for a Strix with an overkill cooler. After a re-paste... it's now at 57 degrees, and much quieter. Always a risk to buying used. Too bad some people are just out to screw other people. If it weren't for my local prices on GPU's, I don't know if I would buy them locally.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 Microcenter sells used refurbished video cards now, if they don't test out well for u you simply return it and try another one

[@Hoboswaggins]

On the topic of used PSUs.. I don't think it's that they are inherently bad, but rather, if they do, by chance, fail and take your entire system with it, you have to eat that cost. A new reputable brand power supply is at least under warranty and will cover the replacement cost of any damaged parts. There's also a lot of unknowns around a used power supply like how old it is, how much it's been used, has it been hit with a surge, or are the capacitors starting to leak, or is it just dodgy etc none of those are a concern with a new supply. Also, that deal on the 2080ti was crazy good value.

[@Lurch-Bot]

At least a $40 US Thermaltake SMART 500 is known to be a safe PSU. It will probably brick itself if you ever trigger OCP but still...your PC will be safe. GN tested one not too long ago.

[@Tamajyn69]

I just got a 2080 Ti FE on ebay for $450. Been stressing her most of the day and aside from not overclocking too great (expected on a 2080ti tbh) she's a beaut and a huge upgrade on my old little 1070 😅

[@SirDaffyD]

Loved the series mate. Looking forward to the next one. Loving your channel. I bought a second hand RTX3070 about a year and a bit ago now. The guy said he'd parted out his pc and couldn't show me it working. He was happy for me to bring my pc for testing. It tested fine so I bought it. I've since re paisted it about 5 months ago, and also undervolted it, and gave it a mild overclock, and it's running better than ever.

[@techyescity]

Nice deal and the undervolting will definitely stretch the life of it!

[@AssassinKID]

Some graphics card vendors just re-use their equivalent Nvidia card's components and cooler, slap them on the AMD cards and call it a day. Perhaps you anecdotal experience lines up with those kinds of AMD cards.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

You know what I never avoid? Tech YES City.

[@MelloBellow]

agreed

[@Willbme4EVA]

@MarcoGPUtuber You always find , just the right words !cheers

[@tradingnichols2255]

Hey, works great by me! Me thinks he's speaking about Rx570 and dodgey customers...

[@brockysthoughts1662]

Yeah on motherboards make sure you get the m.2 screws so many boards I have brought and then had to search for those pesky little screws

[@NYC-Potatoes]

Some heatsinks come with it

[@realonepx9885]

I bought a set of m2 screws or Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, Msi, Motherboards (10 pieces for each brand) for like 3,5 euros and Im good

[@samiusdad9050]

ewaste is the worst thing ! That's why I love your channel, because you're an advocate against ewaste and you're showing everyone that you can all combat it a little bit. Trying to fix things before chucking it in the bin.

[@MrSamadolfo]

yup I don't like ewaste either, Adopt a Used PC 😇

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

Thank you for this. We started with a free budget and took less time because we had a 990fx 8150cpu r9 290 with 32gb ddr3 that was sitting as an old pc we had spare that had not been used from 2016. Due to starting with a perfectly serviceable out of date pc we bagged £340 quid for it and quickly were able to work our way up to an AMD 5600x/ RX 6800 (non xt) 32gb build. Not optimal by any means but will see our youngster right through skipping the AM5 chipset while more than meeting his needs.

[@seatslider]

You’re a legend. I found you years ago in my beginnings of pc building. Now I’ve got some used parts in my PC and happy with my setup. I just stay tuned into to your show cause your a legend. Do you keep a price list of what you value certain items in the used AUD market?

[@gamesbtl6730]

How about bringing a test bench, portable monitor and a battery power station to test dodgy components on the spot without risking to get hosed? In can all be housed in a portable suitcase to easily load it in the car boot when driving to a pickup spot.

[@techyescity]

Yeah I got a powerstation ready to go, will get onto setting it up soon! looking for the hardest motherboard known to man to swing in that boot, any suggestions?

[@Hoboswaggins]

@@techyescity NOT Gigabyte I can tell ya that much.

[@gamesbtl6730]

You have most definitely much more experience than me with mobo endurance so I don't really have a suggestion for what would work best for this. Since I don't think many have done something like this, it will be a trial an error scenario so I wouldn't go with something expensive.

[@AmosDohms]

@@techyescity I don't know what the most durable motherboards are, but I'd go with some of the old AMD motherboards, AM2/3/3+. Basically worthless except for a few of the high end cpus for the socket, and there are plenty of them out there.

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@techyescity 🙂 if your testing old radeon cards you have to find an old motherboard that has both legacy bios and uefi bios so u can still see the bios screen and not get a black screen. Also the monitor has to be old enough that it has all the inputs such as VGA DVI analog and digital HDMI and displayport or carry two or three montors to cover all the inputs by legacy cards

[@abercrombiepatrick]

love the deals and flip up videos

[@shanemcknight1583]

Appreciate you doing such a good recap and breakdown- Always enjoyable going along for the ride with all these builds, and the insights learned and shared are gold.

[@rbalcarse13]

5:50 It is a huge gamble when buying polaris/vega, gtx 10 series and prior cards as they are maybe on their final years or days in their life span. I experienced these problems and my gt240 is the only card left working on my stack of old GPUs. Also try having a trusty UPS and a cheap usable PC setup at the back of your car. It may save you some time and hassle because you can test the part/s without leaving the seller's place.

[@rathstar]

Great video, its great hearing this retrospective and the things that went bad and well. With the economic squeeze I'm seeing more scams happening and over inflated prices for old tech. I just have to know the worth of the parts and stay strong on what I'm willing to pay. And yeah, seeing things running is a must nowadays. I've also been one of those that shied away from buying used psu on their own, but after having a few they have always worked fine and the price on the used market is really cheap.

[@antonhei2443]

2 second hand HD6850 I bought from different people started fire on the first benchmark after just 2 minutes of use. No issues with the older ATI 9250, HD5770 or my newer R7 260 and 270X.

[@adamlaker7106]

My Nephews PC had a gpu issue I was stumpped with, after playing games one night, woke up in morning went to play same game and fps bombed (70-120 usual all of a sudden 15-20). any game he tried it would be laggy and no fps or crash... but he could run 3d mark and hevean benchmarks with high fps decent temps and above avge score... swapped gpus with a spare i had no issues 14 months later....

[@iamspencerx]

I used to have a crappy no name PSU that with a fan that started making noise after 4-5 years so I just jammed the fan and kept the pc running, with hot summers where the temperature is around 30°C inside, it just didn't care

[@tradingnichols2255]

My feedback is that I really enjoyed the entire journey. That said, when you said 1 of the videos was your largest production ever? Oh yeah! I loved that one especially! Great job!

[@GrabASpriteB]

I admire your bravery to take risks and hoping you land a bargain. I haven't wheeled and deal'd on marketplace nearly as much as you, but when I have, I always stand on the safe side so I have no doubt I'll be scammed. I was hosed on a cheap broken Xbox One that I thought I could fix with a simple HDD swap and I was never the same. Seeing your losses and gains has been an inspiration for me to start dealing again and I love that you don't take any BS from the dodgy sellers. I really enjoy your videos about the labors of buying from marketplace and other sites.

[@dualbeardedtech]

Hey Brian, how do you determine what prices to put on youre PCs? I usually add 15% to 20% to my cost. Depending on the hardware.

[@NYC-Potatoes]

That's the usual just depends on your area

[@dualbeardedtech]

@@NYC-Potatoes that's what I thought. Thank you

[@HazewinDog]

from what I can tell, he happily adds more on top, simply listing the PC for its value.

[@techyescity]

I base on a few things, what the competition is selling around my area, the price performance vs new and of course how much I paid for the build.

[@dualbeardedtech]

@@techyescity Thank you for clearing that up!

[@banaanhaan]

You could do it with 100 USD instead, which also adds up to 150 AUD like you mentioned.

[@Willbme4EVA]

at this time and point it would be ok. We have no idea as to what the exchange rates will be the next time the flipping episode will begin.

[@Cbamptronious]

Old radeon cards draw soo much power and always had vram issues. I gave up on them pretty quick.

[@MrSamadolfo]

you can't see the bios screen with them

[@t3amb4sh]

Some good scores right there mate! Informative video ! As for the PSUs.. . My older PSU (replaced it with a Be Quiet 850W unit, as I bought a 4080), is a Seasonic Focus+ gold 650W, now sitting into my gf's PC (11600K, along with my old GTX 1080 Ti). In my PC was sitting for about 5 years straight (8700K, 1080Ti , Lots of HDD/SSD and RGB stuff), with very little rest. It's about 6y old now, and it's got 10y warranty. This is an immortal PSU , I believe, super good quality. On the other hand , a best seller here in Greece, Thermaltake Smart SE530, was in my gf's PC previously, and before that , in an HTPC that drew very little power. After replacing it with my older one, I put it in another HTPC (even lower energy - a pentium G3260 and stuff from OEM system , with an RX460- which was previously in my gf's PC). It died suddenly 2 weeks ago. No warnings, nothing. Just died. It didn't work hard in its entire life and it stayed in its box for several months during that time. So , used power supplies, aren't always bad but aren't always good either. As you see, though, a good unit, lasts for many years, powers up many systems before it dies (if it ever will), but a cheaper one, with very little use, can die out of nowhere. With that being said, I have a cheap-o one that's working and I keep it to test potential PSU failures. My HTPC now has a System Power 10 , 450W (couldn't get a 350W which is plenty )from be quiet. My server has a system power 9 500W, also be quiet. They are basic but good for the long run! My point is , do not cheap out on PSU, even a lower end system, needs a good enough unit. It needs to have the basic protections so in case it dies, it won't take anything with it. Luckily, TT had those certain protections, it died alone :p PS: I rarely sell my PSUs, I usually keep them, except if I sell a whole system!

[@RiftRavingRogue]

My daughters are both running my old RX480(XFX) and 580(Power Color Red Devil).. I did crypto mine on both of those cards too but not on an industrial level.

[@SalamaAhmed-pj3jv]

Could you test 32-bit games on 32-bit Win 10 vs. 64-bit Win 10 with the same specs? I heard that 64-bit Win runs 32-bit games and software, but at lower performance than it would on a native 32-bit Win. It runs it like emulators do, so there is a loss in performance.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 nobody I see covers such things because if u run 32bit your stuck with only 4GB of system ram which is not acceptable, most gaming systems nowadays are 8GB or 16GB or 32GB

[@SalamaAhmed-pj3jv]

Yes, I mean older games not nowadays game, all games before 2010 were 32 bit and don't require more than 4gb of ram. Even there are some modern games that are 32 bit like Stronghold warlords @@MrSamadolfo

[@Willbme4EVA]

I know I will watch this way more than once as time goes by, It is like how to flip a PC 101. Cheers Bro!!

[@SwiftMCy]

+1 to great people. Have met some really genuine guys on the road. Always makes me feel good about the extra effort I put into flips often, even if it doesn't make all too much sense financially. Love the hobby!

[@POLARTTYRTM]

I wish I lived in a place where you could buy used stuff. Many people go "missing" (you know what that means) when going to meet someone to buy something used. It must be such a fun pleasant hobby and second source of income.

[@HazewinDog]

I would like to as well, but the cost of fuel here makes it cheaper to just have people ship the item, unless there happens to be a good deal close by. It's not as fun when it's online, but since I also don't have a car of my own right now, I also have limited access to a car.

[@POLARTTYRTM]

@@HazewinDog here it's not fuel, it's just that the country is exceedingly dangerous full of people with really, really bad intentions.

[@ashenwattegedera]

Wow, What kind of country are we talking here, I live in a 3rd world country and I've always bought used stuff and I've been fine.

[@MrSamadolfo]

tell them I need to see it tested, if they say NO then keep it moving

[@POLARTTYRTM]

@@MrSamadolfo problem is, they will show you that they actually have it and it works, but the moment you pay or they send you, they will either send a brick, not send anything, or you get mugged at gunpoint or worse if you meet in person even in public spaces. So yeah, not a lot to do.

[@MrEMeat-kk9tc]

09:50 Good on you mate. The brother can’t even afford shoes!

[@ewasteredux]

I really enjoy hearing your thought processes behind what you buy versus what you stay away from. This is invaluable knowledge based on practical experience that most of us do not have. I will say that I have had some success doing heat gun re-flows on AMD cards of course this tends to be a temporary solution.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 i suggest avoiding most older Radeon Cards unless its one of those special flashed ones that work in a Mac Pro then yeah pick all those up.

[@TerraWare]

I picked up an RX 580 4GB for $1.60 USD and not getting a picture although the fans spin and looks like new.

[@Willbme4EVA]

how many output ports and what type, if just dvi or none was a mining card but they were mostly 8 gb

[@TerraWare]

@@Willbme4EVA It's an MSI Armor 4G OC with 2 HDMI, 2 DP and one DVI port

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 it could also be due to incompatibilty? Radeon cards are notorious for incompatibility with Motherboard or Monitors or TV's, are u sure the motherboard and the display you are using are compatible? try another RX card to verify that, otherwise only use Invidia Cards if you don't want to worry about Incompatibility

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Would try both Linux and Windows, test a couple of displays and cables. At least it's not a huge spend though.

[@TerraWare]

@@MrSamadolfo To be fair I only tried it using HDMI with an LG C1 oled. I do think I need to try it with a display port cable on a pc monitor. I have another RX 580 I think I had a similar issue with, cant remember. Either way I dont really care lol. It was only $1.60

[@Beary98]

I do a several month long flip once or twice a year, always binge your channel when I do. Recent pickups were an old 4790k on a tomahawk z87 boardwith sli'd 1080tis for $160. Then a 5800x for $100, bent a couple pins back and she sings now.

[@bambinone]

100USD flip up challenge?

[@janos1993]

I love your used parts content and I have been buying some used parts and even building a PC with that hardware. People don't realise the fact, that you can build a r5 5600/rx 6600 (m. 2 ssd, etc.) for like 350 bucks in my country. I have a question for you: what are the rules you play buy when buying used hardware (be it the way you talk with sellers or potential buyers, or even testing parts, do you have a standardised process?).

[@jamesdevine564]

when does the mail time parcel episode coming??

[@patrickmcgovern4004]

Power supplies and hard drives are two things I'm extremely reluctant to buy used. Where I live it's hard selling any pc once you get above the maybe 450 usd range. It's tough times, people are broke. So I mostly focus on the 400 and under range and with the peripherals and speakers and monitor etc can provide relatively good value and still make a profit.

[@radupopescu4241]

When i buy used parte , i always test them before .

[@n0.nam358]

Today i have bought rtx 3070 inno3d just for 225$ in Poland, found it on Facebook Marketplace and owner gave it to Lombard for selling. It looks just like new. Paid 50zl more for testing it in local repair. Waiting to pick it up in evening. Going to buy PC this summer.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 3070 is a good decent card, just make sure your power supply is strong and reliable because it needs a little bit of juice to get it going, I believe it uses TWO 8pin plugs so make sure u get a good power supply with TWO video plugs

[@kevlarandchrome]

I've been building and reselling PCs for closing on a decade now, I've NEVER had a computer come back for a power supply issue. I've also never had a power supply fail in any box I've built for myself, friends, or family members.

[@Alpha-ms9nj]

Ah more good info man and that is why I really appreciate you and this channel. You must put a lot of miles sourcing your stock and you end up most times having to take sellers at their word and sometimes it doesn't work out. I remember that episode with the whole GPU in the mailbox bit and wow things got testy there. How difficult would it be to set up some portable test bench in your ride? Perhaps a solar backup generator or a battery with an inverter? Keep up the solid uploads man love this channel.

[@jeanremydorval3785]

I stop buying GPUs like Rx 580 and older. I got scammed to many times the crazy thing it's only Radeon cards

[@d4mb20]

Some rx580s require the use of CSM and won't work in modern systems, the workaround is to flash a UEFI enabled custom bios.

[@antondovydaitis2261]

Thank you for sharing your journey. Subscribed, looking forward to the next campaign.

[@NYC-Potatoes]

I haven't used a new PSU in months most builds I did were corsair no complaints from anyone and my personal systems have them too

[@michaelwood9866]

also brian most pc gamers/builders do not have psu testers as that's not common among builders that i have ever seen or been around.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 no they don't , they don't even have one of those cheap Voltmeter ones that cost 30 bucks, make it make sense? I rarely see anyone use a Watt Meter either? 🤔

[@hanyuchuang]

These close encounters with violence is not worth the saving... I buy used parts but I'd rather get hosed than walking into some stranger's home, or letting stranger into my house to perform the testing.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 we can do it in my backyard or garage, and we can have a cook out too, talk about pc parts

[@DrForbin001]

Brian, I have built several PC's with mixtures of new and used parts. With the exception of one build all of the used power supplies were used. As for the GPU'S, none were new, and they never had an issue with Radeon or NVIdia used. Software has always been an issue, mostly NVidia 🙄.

[@PhysicsOperator]

Tech yes please another video

[@3DQuan]

I agree with the trend with recent PSUs. From basically 2020 onwards there have been issues with certain batches coming out of companies like infineon etc and other component manufacturer's.

[@cracklingice]

Hey Bry, you can still start with $100, you just don't have to buy/sell a whole PC with it.

[@bstaznkid4lyfe392]

I hardly buy used pc parts now a day..I had bad luck three times in the past..It just stopped working..

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 its fun, i only do it with no expectations, if it works great, if it doesnt oh well

[@Brian-bd9gj]

@techyescity What is the name of the song at the beginning of the video? Great content as always!

[@d4nith3]

Just go for Seasonic power supplies, they offer now 12 years warranty. Just insane.

[@spentcasing3990]

Here in Vancouver, people sell garbage for more then what it costs for something new

[@notanapplefan]

great video bro loved it

[@zahier1603]

Hey Bryan , would it not be possible for you to purchase a semi mobile inverter system that would allow you to test out these gpus on the go. Having a test bench along with it to see if the graphics cards are functioning. Possibly have also the drivers all saved aswell on to a usb when you need to install to test

[@DesFTW_]

The RX 500 series cards have spent too much time in the mines.

[@ashryver3605]

23:30 you will be happy to hear at this power supply segment, that my old pc - which is 10~11 years old now, using a 4790k with DDR3 and an old Supanova G2 850W power supply - is STILL working and going on that same power supply today. And I haven't treated it well... It definitely has a lot of gunk and dust and hair whatever inside the unit... But because I bought a higher PSU than needed, it's never been stressed very much (max 500w usage before with a 2070S in the system on upgrade probably) and the fan turns off when usage is low. I've recently repasted and used my R9-290 within the last year while testing and benching my newer 13900KS pc, and that one is still going strong too!

[@pisconz]

Congrats once again for reaching the end of another season, i'm also flipping gaming pcs to clear inventory but I've always been curious on the including a monitor bit, because all i can find for cheap are vga or dvi at best ones, and what makes sense in even lower end gaming pcs is something with at least 100hz g\freesync and hdmi, but those would make me not very competitive, so i end up just selling the case.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 same here in chicago, u dont see hdmi montors on craigslist, u have to go to Microcenter

[@gaunterodimm3606]

Bryan, the thing with used PSUs is it's relative to its age and to the age and cost of the other hardware you pair it with. PSUs usually have a relatively safe lifespan under normal use of 7-10 years, 15 years on high end models, might last way longer, might not. So pairing, for example, an 8 year old PSU with 6 year old hardware is generally fine because the PSU will still probably outlast the other hardware and there is less cost on the other hardware involved it's risking. Using new(er) hardware with a 10-15 year old PSU is a bad idea because it's way more likely the PSU will not out last the life of the rest of the hardware and can take out other hardware when it goes.

[@Turtlecuber]

yeah i got a used evga supernova 1300w g2 for 50 in 2020 and its still running strong been in through multiple thunder storms even having a bolt of lightning knock out the power from near by

[@Myself-yh9rr]

The thing about power supplies is true! I have an 800 watt that has been used on 3 motherboards and no trouble yet. Just watch out for cheap supplies and ones that don't supply enough power. You are better off to get a good one that is a bit of an overkill than a generic one with questionable quality components. Just beware that sometimes when a power supply fails it can fry a lot of things connected to it. In even worse and hopefully rarer cases they can burn a house down! Get a good brand that is rated for a little bit more than you really need and hopefully you won't have these problems! A power supply that is a huge overkill on how many watts it can supply should not damage things if it is hooked up properly. If you have a Dell, HP or other prebuilt system make sure that the power supply in it is not some weird proprietary thing. Sometimes Dell does that and sometimes HP uses similar parts. Just make sure to remind Dell that Apple called and wants their proprietary parts back!!

[@mr.arocenastech]

Nice recap of your Season 3 flip up challenge. The RTX 3000 series sell very well here too compared to basically everything else. Been sitting on an amazing RX 6800 system that offers so much performance for the price for a while now with no luck. I haven't had any issues with RX 580s/570s failing on me (even after buying them from miners) but another reason to avoid RX570/580 is that AMD no longer does driver updates for them. Which is a bit unfortunate as they are very good 1080p gaming GPUs.

[@AlexHusTech]

*Hard times right now, no one is buying, even without much competition! :(*

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 low spec pcs will always sell, take a look at India and Latin America and South East channels, most of the world are playing video games on low spec hardware

[@AlexHusTech]

Not when people can't afford bills & foodetc@@MrSamadolfo

[@ulas8201]

Where I live no logic buying second hand pc parts. If it's working they never sale you with good price. As like 20% cheaper than new one. And no guarantee. If it's cheap 100% something wrong with that part. Also too much scam going on. I prefer buy low performance parts new with guarantee. Better than paying something not working at all

[@foxskyful]

Lot of people also sell because they upgrading including me. You can get 20-40 cheaper with stronger components in some countries. Its always more risk yes, but also can be more rewarded.

[@itsmedavidd]

another thing i'd like to add regarding your safety. Make sure you text someone you trust the address you are at if you plan to enter someone's home. As tech yes city said he almost got into a fight with someone in this series. It's extremely helpful for your family or close friends to know your last location if anything happens to you.

[@s13sil80]

Why not $200 starting budget? That way, you could buy a PC like that, and still have left over for a power supply if you need it, or whatever you come up against. It's not an unreasonable increase given inflation/challenges.

[@gorjy9610]

These older radeons tend to run, cards were cheap and AIBs give them cheapest cooler they could. Most people never clean their coolers and even these who do don't bother replacing pads on RAM so most of them died from overheating. Only premium models are worth even looking at as most of them have oversized coolers which kept cards somewhat cool even if owner install and forgot about it until replacing with something new.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 yes good point, amd didnt seem to have any control what the board partners were putting out, which gave Radeon a bad reputation

[@xtremezone987]

Ya its a good idea to have a test bench in your car before buying anything especially gpus. Nerd On A Budget here on YT has a setup for the back of his car cuz he doesn't want to get hosed either. Keeps both parties safe before handing over any money. You'll also need a good fully charged UPS along with the obvious stuff - (required cables, portable monitor, mouse & keyboard) tho for that to work.

[@Willbme4EVA]

If you are really into flipping it is an added expense, and a huge finger to the face of the seller to use a testing device. I like Nerd but just to have that setup to check sustainable pc parts would start the project in the minus. your house /my house does the stuff even post for cheap is acceptable in my book

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 that setup is also useful for an RV or if your an Over The Road Trucker

[@6DAMMK9]

talking about power supply, psu in miner rig are great. 1600W ("6 card") for $10. And some newer model (maybe 2021 onward) does have a better fan to produce less noise. With a PCIE to CPU 8 pin adapter (common in commercial Tesla cards, will be cheap in aliexpress), it is hard to break even you're with a 4090.

[@kevinoneill2170]

Enjoyed this Flip Up recap episode!

[@unclem4626]

The newer psu's may have more safety features that prevent a surge and thus cut off power, maybe a fuse.

[@pachecodc5]

Why don’t you buy an ITX portable set up for testing GPUS?

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 he says hes going to get around to doing it

[@dirkjewitt5037]

What do you think of those PSU adaptors for DELL, HP and ACERs that are on Amazon? They let you use a regular PSU on most office PC's.

[@KBWarrioR2018]

It's been a while since I ve built a PC. And now Im planning to build one for my son for his birthday. And I moved to Australia too. If I buy parts from different sources, and there is something wrong with the build and does not boot, what is the way to go in Australia to get the issue diagnosed? Appreciate your input.

[@sebashadow2209]

Hi mate, how do you issue warranty to people? Is it just verbal or you give them something in writing?

[@3pokrobloxvideos456]

this theory is true my friend has a r9 390x from 2015 and it just randomly one day just died and gave a picture but any load just black screen

[@aeroflopper]

have they tried cleaning the card and re applying thermol paste?

[@3pokrobloxvideos456]

yes everything repaste new bios flash undervolting and a custom undervolted bios@@aeroflopper

[@3pokrobloxvideos456]

yes everything repaste undervolt and a even new bios flash and undervolt@@aeroflopper

[@WhaleRacer]

I let a friend use an old system for a while with a Sapphire HD 7950 and apparently the card just died on him recently. Card was BIOS flashed and modded and was pushed hard for some benchmarks in its lifetime before I flashed more reasonable power targets and clocks to use as a media PC. It may just be the end of life for parts of this generation.

[@SushikiIIer]

I deffenitly agree with GPU's needing to be tested. There is another channel "nerd on a budget" who does a good amount of mobile IT & used part hunting and he runs a pretty slick testing setup out of the back of his car. He just uses a simple ATX tower & portable monitor from the back of his car with a UPC that he just charges before heading out to pick stuff up.

[@mikekelly5945]

I've followed you on this $100 challenge the whole way(and I've been a subscriber for a year and a half, I believe) and found your journey fascinating. You're one of my fav tech channels and also so personable when showing us, the viewer, the "how's, why's" etc. of what you do. So a big thank you from Mike here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.

[@Lurch-Bot]

My own personal flip up challenge will take all year and won't be half as interesting.

[@tradingnichols2255]

I have an ooops, saw the recap before the final video! Ooops! Still loved it, LOL.

[@notanapplefan]

i had a 900 wat psu gold evga it was 10 years old when i gave it to my mining friend jerry still happly running away in his mining rig haha

[@mikeschneider9462]

I had a psu issue where the computer shut down while gaming a few times. Then would turn on but display nothing. No boot no splash nothing. The entire pc was on and running just like normal. The weird part was the power button once the pc was on would then not turn the pc off. Swapped the psu and it was good again. The bad supply lasted a few years it was a thermaltake rbg unit lol. I got it on a deal.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 i have an Asus Z97 board that does it, its called surge protection, if the board senses a large enough surge it will force a reset, it doesnt like certain power supplys or you are forced to use a bigger power supply

[@mikeschneider9462]

@MrSamadolfo mine is a b550 asus model. I was warned the supply wasn't a good one and was prone to failure. But it was brand new so I put it in anyway. Got 2 years out of it. I replaced it with a corsair and it's running good again.

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@mikeschneider9462 🙂 cool, glad u found a power supply that the board is happy with, it can be very anoying if the board is too picky

[@drunksupportcharacter]

Yeah i totally get the power supply thing, If your building for yourself, sure you want something new and specific, but if its not your main build and something that is an alternative, I do like the used market for specifically cheap gold and better PSUs, because its highly likely they have just been used in a single build and someone is just upgrading.

[@mrekt4u401]

23:00 I would say it's just Survivor's bias cause if pc has been working well till now. It's less likely to not work the next year. Where as the new ones haven't had to face this screening process. The data that can be collected from you could be really useful for power supply failure rate and symptoms

[@aleksandersaski5387]

One thing is puzzling me for a long time. What does BFTYC stand for?! "Big fu**ing TYC"? :P

[@ArtistSoftwareEngineer]

I believe the first time Bryan did it it was on a Black Friday 😁

[@kr00tman]

Soldering amd cpus, once you practice enough, its not too bad, alot of times people break pins off the edges of the cpu and they are reparable. You can also get broken pin amd cpus pretty cheap so its really no risk if you botch the repair, earlier this week I just repaired a 5800x3d I paid 27 bucks for.

[@funbucket09]

how did you sell that 100 dollar junker for 273 bucks?!?! How long did you warranty it for? Can't think of anything else that adds that much value

[@madmatt2024]

It's still crazy to me that you can get the deals you do. I just spent a little over $65US to get my brother's old Phenom II gaming PC up and running just so he could play Minecraft again and you spent the equivalent of $53US on a whole working 2nd gen i5 system that just needs a PSU.😖

[@Budgetiers]

Love your stuff man. Great journalistic PC flipping. 😎