When Clone Wars Writers Really Said 'Screw it, Sharks in Star Wars': Karkarodons Explained

[@mentalmandolorian5723]

"Unlike most sharks, they had industry"- Geetsly *Fear the sharks with industry*

[@randomcenturion7264]

"They're sharks" "Okay" "WITH Industry." "Dear God!"

[@marcelxd1633]

Imagine how creepy star wars dolphins would be

[@spiritpyros]

Considering how terrible real dolphins star wars dolphins would make many a sith

[@Obiwan7100]

Truly Generation Tech moment

[@flatheadgg2443]

The dark eldar from 40k but worse

[@mentalmandolorian5723]

Did somebody call Generation tech?

[@phantomzero2831]

Oh God the image

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

One of the most brutal scenes from the Clone Wars is when the Prince Lee-Char detonated an explosive in Riff Tamson's face and we see the Karkarodon's remains floating away including his jaw bones.

[@emersonwright972]

Straight-up the goriest thing I've ever seen on the CN

[@timscott5782]

It was a jaws reference since Dave knew one of his lead animators (Joel Aaron) was a big jaws fan

[@RageKroc888]

Probably the most gory death in the series. None of the cutting in half or laser holes through eye sockets or falling into lava pits comes close.

[@neofulcrum5013]

That is one way to avenge your late father

[@clydecraft5642]

@@RageKroc888no one gets shot in the head in star wars the clone wars…

[@neofulcrum5013]

After Karen Traviss threw shape shifting wolves into the mix, I knew just about any animal could pass as a species for Star Wars: Cats, Calamari, squids, snakes, spiders. But I have to say, I hope we see more Carchardons walking on land.

[@macewindu3492]

The Carcharadons are from Warhammer. The Karkaradons are from Star Wars

[@thekaxmax]

IIRC about 5 different 'cats'

[@levongevorgyan6789]

Cathar for the cats, Shistavanen for the wolves.

[@ryanmc6718]

Calamari is squid meat

[@stingerjohnny9951]

@@macewindu3492 It would have been funnier if the Space Marine Chapter misspelled their chapter because they didn’t actually know anything about sharks, but I suppose the aliens spelling it weird makes more sense lol.

[@gregorylieber8362]

4:08 "unlike MOST real world sharks, the karkarodons had industry" really gave me a chuckle to imagine an earth shark in a business suit or hi-vis vest

[@isaackim7675]

Riff Tamson, “I am altering the deal. Pray that I don’t alter further.” The Quarren, “This deal is getting worse every time.”

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

The sentence "Unlike most sharks here on Earth, Karkaradons had industry" implies that there are industrialized sharks out there in the world somewhere. Australia? That you? What are you hiding down under there, mate?

[@mayeuldelaunay4058]

The Confederacy could have easily won the war by putting an assault on Kamino with Karkarodons and Quarrens or Aqualishes leading the assault from the ocean of Kamino and entering Tipoca City from below and/or flood the city with explosives or seismic charges on Tipoca City's pillars, with someone like Riff Tamson or another Karkarodon general leading the troops underwater.

[@jimrett6197]

They actually did exactly that in the battle of kamino from Legends. They recruited the Mon Cala to lead the battle, but poor intel (provided by Sidious) still resulted in defeat and the death of the Mon Calamari commander

[@rmw9420]

since they were biological i think the republic would have caught on much faster due to their scanners

[@BirdRaiserE]

The name for these guys reminds me of a certain space marine chapter from 40k, which is fitting consideing what the name means on our world

[@CommanderBohn]

Actually the charcarodon word is the name of a family genus of sharks. These aliens are named after a whole family of sharks that are characterized by having jagged, sharp teeth. Not just the great white only.

[@TetsuShima]

Ngl, Karkarodons would totally work as inhabitants of Manaan and fierce rivals to the peaceful Selkath. I literally imagine those species making a secret alliance with the Sith during the events of KOTOR to destroy the Selkath and take complete control of the planet.

[@joshk96]

"Unlike most real world sharks the Karkarodons had industry" Implying that some real world sharks do? 😮

[@softie4495]

Ngl, it would have been funny if they were into banking too. They could be literal loan sharks.

[@Mr.DiughGames]

True

[@merafirewing6591]

And how about trying their hand at a game of cards.

[@AtomicRobloxProductions]

You know, Geetsly, I remember reading something in an old Star Wars lore book about another superweapon "starship". Called "World Devastators" I believe? It was a large, hulking mobile factory that was capable of producing anything from starfighters right up to other world devastators. It moved a planet into a molecular furnace on the bottom of it's "front" that slowly ate away at a planet over time until it fully devoured it and used it's resources to power itself and it's factories. Maybe you could talk about them sometime! They sound terrifying to witness..

[@hyenafur]

Alternate Title: "That Time Star Wars Writers Literally Jumped the Shark"

[@StonewallTitlow]

That and then some.

[@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan]

I'd argue the Gungan weapons messed the Hydroid Medusas right up! It was only because of the CIS Trident class ships that all of the armies were cleared out by using a weird whirlpool technique.

[@randomcenturion7264]

Love these guys. I wish we had a crime syndicate of them. The Pykes has the Spice Trade so these guys would probably nail the arms/cybernetics trade, like they're straight outta Night City

[@marshalllatta2073]

The karkarodons are one of my favorite species in star wars l want to see more of them in the future of star wars

[@Brutalyte616]

As a 40k fan, I am not the least bit fazed by the idea of Space Sharks. In fact, the Space Sharks are one of my favorite Space Marine Chapters, although their proper name is the Carcharodon Astra, or the Carcharodons for short.

[@slueepy1232]

*_"YOU DO NOT SEE TYBEROS THE RED WAKE"_*

[@normanwells5726]

You beat me to it my good sir lol

[@macewindu3492]

​​@@slueepy1232 that's because Tyberos hums the Jaws theme inside his helmet

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Ok, Big difference between a totem, and actually being shark people. By the by, Tyberos is Sevatar and or the “forgotten one”. Loyalist chapters from traitor legions are awesome.

[@Brutalyte616]

@@mikewaterfield3599 No, the Forgotten One is long dead. We don't know much about Tyberos, but we know he wasn't always Chapter Master of the Carcharodons, and we know that he's so big his Teeminator armor has to be fitted with parts taken from Dreadnoughts, which means he's in a similar weight class to a lot of the Primarchs; Sevatar never got that big.

[@JustsomeKid93]

I’ve always wondered about these guys since watching that one clone wars arc, like they showed us cool shark guy and then we never saw that species again on screen

[@MANESHARK]

I was hoping you'd go a little into Tas Gallin. She is in the thumbnail, after all. It would be good to see some of the more positive members represented, to show that they aren't inherently evil.

[@ObiClon]

That one time Star Wars got a little of Jaws in it. Definitely one of my favorite episodes from the Clone Wars when Riff showed up

[@taitano12]

"Unlike MOST sharks, however, the Carcoradons have heavy industry." Bro giving me flashbacks to my life in the Marianas Islands. 😵‍💫

[@thezackast2752]

Storytime? You found industrial sharks?

[@taitano12]

@@thezackast2752 There are many secrets hidden in the deep waters that surround my home. And not everything we call waste is useless. 😵‍💫😱

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Sometimes the rule of cool works. Flipper handed fish men building civic buildings that double as over shielded luxury Star liners is canonical. Ergo, as far as I’m concerned the shark guys should be pirates or some other predatory practice.

[@Karlos1234ify]

Can we have Sharks with freaking lasers beams attached to their heads??!

[@alejandromolina7270]

There are Tiss'shar and Ssi-Ruu, they've already jumped the shark a long time ago.

[@twistedyogert]

Perhaps they joined the rebellion. After all, as any fisherman knows, there's always a few that escape the netting.

[@ferretmonger0236]

0:17 are those Bilars!!? I love those guy's, they're adorable, & also kinda Tragic creatures.

[@ABadassDragon]

Im playing a lot of Cyberpunk 2077 right now and it got me thinking. Heavy cybernetic implants tend to cause cyberpsycosis, causing the person to go insane and go on a rampage. Is there anything like that in SW, where implants cause the person to go mad or start losing a grip on reality?

[@Nephalem2002]

All the Jedi really had to do against Tamson was rotate him.

[@AskMia411]

On my second viewing of the mon Cala arc, I realized the showdown between the calamari prince and the shark dude was an homage to Jaws, and lost it 😂 I’m pretty sure this whole species was invented just for that scene

[@AdamTehranchiYT]

Another reason for the location of their cities could be utility since they would be closer to geothermal vents for power and possibly materials.

[@jeremyleonjonas7657]

That species is just super cool xD I'd love a vid on the diathim, they are fairly obscure, despite being actually name-dropped in the movies and quite possibly one of, if not, the most powerful species around.

[@alexanderkidonakis9185]

I just made a post about this race on the starwars discussion group about 14-15 days ago. Glad someone’s covering it

[@TurbineNorShark]

here's alittle tid-bit fact that often gets glossed over, sharks can as a matter of fact gulp down water through their gills, not all sharks are obligate ram ventilators, the only one i can realy remember from atop of my head that is this way would be the hammer heads.

[@lifevest1]

Has a hydrodynamic head, yet has limbs. Evolution was on something on Riff’s planet!

[@brokenbridge6316]

I remember this story arc most fondly. Loved how it ended. A great arc for sure.

[@LAV-III]

They really just called them Carcharodons but with a K Lmao

[@hungtheheroluu]

True. A little bit of Tuckerization to make the alien species from a galaxy far far away gives homage to their real-life counterparts. Also, ‘K’ isn’t the most commonly used letter, which makes it perfect for the name of something extraterrestrial and extra-aquatic.

[@eren34558]

Actually, yeah, I was surprised by the lack of fish puns

[@amarured]

So i listen to and watch your videos since about 2 or 3 Years. And just now I noticed something: The way you TALK is so good! Your accentuation, the way you emphasize and time your words. The way you end sentences. It fits absolutely perfectly for storytelling! I watched a lot of your old videos. And they were also good! Bur now it's PERFECT!

[@darthmemewalker2807]

In warhammer, there's actually a space marine chapter of the same name

[@slicerneons3300]

Alas, we never got Kenobi tellingnhis troopers, "We're gonna need a bugger Starship." Missed opportunity.

[@garg4531]

I also remember seeing one in a prison, where a disguised Obiwan jammed a fork into his hand (ouch!)

[@alasiadarthe001actual9]

It’s interesting how tamsen was a surprisingly good commander on top of being a deadly force. unlike so many other separatist he succeeded till the very end when he was betraying his allies. Really cool to see an actual threat to the heroes that didn’t have the force or a lightsaber.

[@dmann5938]

I say that the sharks helped made weapons for The Empire. After all, Tarkin and every other scummy officer liked their weapons

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Anything Shark related being are going to be a vicious creature and there is no doubt that they will at the top of the food chain, and with a very intelligence to match any sentient beings.

[@juancabardo21]

People: i cant believe andor introduced real-world stuff in star wars, that’s cool! meanwhile clone wars: lol sharks in star wars

[@Sp_acecowboy]

I'd really like a video on the parwans 🤞

[@tannmann999]

You guys are the best I'm sure I'm not the only one that appreciates all the things you do and how much you put out love you geetsly and the new guy you're the best 🎉🎉

[@jakertron1003]

Riff Tamson is honestly one of the best clone wars villains. One of the most brutal villains as well

[@Corvus__]

Despite the lack of fish puns, I'd say this jaw-some video went swimmingly well!

[@Only1199]

Imagine space orcas, just ramming ships

[@merafirewing6591]

Imagine Space Megalodons.

[@Bookspine5]

From street sharks to space sharks.

[@augmenautus]

That episode of clone wars with the separatist space shark was lit.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

I love the weirder Star Wars species like Karkarodons. In the short-lived Star Wars pen and paper game I played as a Karkarodon jedi who incorporated bites in his lightsaber combat. Was a ton of fun. If you haven't already I'd love for you to cover the brain-eating Anzati, unceremoniously referred to as "snot vampires" since they eat your brain through your nose. It's as gross as it sounds.

[@evanstark5000]

Just a quick note, this is just an opinion. Plus if you agree or disagree, please let me know...i dont get a lot of feedback most times and would like to know some other thoughts. Thank you! This is just an assumption but i think post-clone wars/during the Imperial Era that the karkadons willingly chose to align with the Empire. Now i know that the Empire had very anti-alien tendencies (due to Palpatine). However, there were times they aligned or worked with non-humans. The most well known of these "aliens" was the Chiss Grand Admiral, Thrawn. The fact that Palpatine made Thrawn a Grand Admiral (despite the fact that he was incredibly anti-alien) tells me that palpatine was willingly to put his prejudices aside to appoint an incredibly intelligent and competent being to that rank because he trusted him. I mean even the staunch imperial Governor Pryce herself asked for Thrawn instead of Constantine is important. Another species id recommend are the Trandoshans. While the imperials didnt like the Trandoshans, many trandoshan mercenaries were hired by the Empire to help with the subjugation of Kashyyyk and the wookies. The imperials did respect the Trandoshans for theyre hunting/tracking abilities and the fact they had a better chance against wookie guerrila fighter's. Even the Kaleesh were seen as respected by the Empire to a degree. The Kaleesh forced the Empire into peace talks and an alliance because they couldnt be forced to bend the knee (even with Thrawn in the picture). So wih that said, I like to think that the karkadons were an exception to the rule as they wouldve (hopefully) been seen as valuable allies/assets.

[@patrickhannon4217]

8:34 Actually, there is something fishy about the lack of shark puns 🤣

[@ericvizcarra8766]

I think we need a bigger ship

[@wither5673]

Star wars Carkarodons may be more literal sharks....but 40k Karkarodons are way scarier....

[@adamwelch4336]

😂 no there not like lets make shark people! The writers were like fuck yeah shark people! 🦈

[@Mr.DiughGames]

We're gonna need a bigger boat.

[@JabezFuutonSpecialis]

Can you do a video on the herglics? No other Star Wars lore channel has been willing to do so!!!

[@matthewsander5887]

How do we know sharks don't have industry?😂

[@santygarrido6283]

A a small karkaradon famous on the holonet

[@user-Don-Bun99]

Yeah! Space Sharks!

[@trashynecromancer1155]

I'd love a video on the Chadra-Fan!

[@Hello-bi1pm]

Still better than wolfs in Star Wars

[@shanenolan5625]

Carcaradan carcaradus ( grest white shark )

[@adam-di7rk]

Non canon but I remember one race that didn't get much air time in the books. The wraith species I remember one being a hired gun in one of the junior jedi nights books about a submarine casino and of course wedges experimental special forces unit wraith squadron used wraith as a name but I don't recall much info bout them

[@yaang9258]

Please, oh great Geetsly, do a video on the Falleen

[@MolGaeilge]

are those frickin sharks with frickin lasers in their hands?

[@zimattack9994]

Now I have this image of shark guy force user using there teeth as a getting gun

[@OmegaCT55555]

Ahahahahahahahahahaaha the title is so hilarious 😂 😂😂

[@IBW_3000]

Vampires, wolves, sharks, etc. Now where are those elves?

[@mando686]

I think every sci fi genre has sharks as a race. Star Wars, Star Trek, Warhammer 40k etc...

[@VaciliNikoMavich]

Did you ever do the Bothans? I forgot.

[@GridironGnoll]

Fin-ally you did a video on these under apprecibaited aliens

[@arbington]

Ah, the majestic star shark.

[@RageKroc888]

This is a stretch but bear with me. Karkarodons switched sides during the war...Like the Italians did...perhaps their leader was...Musselini

[@1rishpotat0]

I want to see a Karkaradon Jedi

[@loverofbeers]

They really jumped the shark. I'll let myself out....

[@zexalbrony4799]

It's sink or swim time. Sorry, I had too. LOL.

[@xIxAmxKh2xI]

the selkaths' progenitor was a firaxan shark, so not that absurd imo

[@lonlidood116]

What do you mean *most* real life sharks? 4:08

[@AC20sAkimbo]

Send in that one race of bipedal killer whales. That would scare the sith out of the space sharks

[@Person_Alive]

Why hello there, old sport

[@SamPashmi]

I can’t find Karkaris on the galactic map

[@ninjamasterbuilder8675]

Great this is the most fishy star wars video from you Geetslys

[@jurgen1395]

Karkarodontosaurus if get the reference your a palaeontologist

[@sharkchaos5160]

Great video.

[@greatazuredragon]

Baby shark~~ ^^

[@omegon2540]

Ok Karchadons vs carchadons astra , who would win

[@JamesStanley-p2l]

Was there any know Jedi or sith that was a member of this species

[@johnhudecek5667]

I mean 2d clone wars had a wolf man Jedi so I don’t care.

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

Wild indeed

[@akumaking1]

Sky-Byte approves

[@magicmaqwa]

"or two telephone poles stacked on top of each other" ah .. a measurement americans understand

[@casualknight8962]

I mean their are elves in star wars legend so why not shark people .

[@macwade2755]

This is Canon for me!

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Sorry, sharks are as unimportant to me as wolves. Same with shark people and wolf people... no offense, DC's King Shark and the characters of Wolf's Rain.