When F1 Failed in Bahrain

[@RomanBellicTaxi]

Being honest, I think the Endurance Layout is actually pretty good for testing. You have a nice and slow, tight, twisty, tricky section for the cars to be tested and the teams learn more about the car on these conditions. They can also adapt the knowledge to similar situations on other circuits.

[@robi_e39]

but can they go bowling as well?

[@justusgeorge5182]

Really great thinking👌👍👍

[@RomanBellicTaxi]

@@robi_e39 on their vacation they may go, but, can you? Let's go, I'll call Niko :)

[@ethangettings4985]

I was thinking something similar by having one day during testing using the endurance layout and then two days of the normal circuit they’d be racing during the season. Also they could do the same for FP1 at certain tracks to entice fans into going to practice sessions and drivers would be able to get more insight into some of the handling/aerodynamic issues they may be having by using a slightly different layout with different turns and racing lines. Then go to the normal layout for FP2-FP3-qualifying-race. It’d be interesting to see how much faster F1 is than say LMP and GT3 cars

[@robi_e39]

@@RomanBellicTaxi hahahaha nice, ok jokes aside i really share your point of view regarding the track layout and imo this would be the perfect track for testing, on the other side you cant compare the times from the official layout (races, qualis, FP etc) to the ones from testing if you do switch it up. But if they were consistent with the test layout they would have some comparision after two years already sooo...

[@JohnWarren]

Imagine the scenes if we had a Bahrain quadruple header at the outer loop, short, normal and endurance layouts

[@MadeByPerspective]

Make it happen 😈

[@BoxInThisLapVR46]

@@MadeByPerspective For a split second i thought this was a John Warren vid

[@JohnWarren]

​@@BoxInThisLapVR46 Unfortunately not, you'll have to put up with Sam x

[@BoxInThisLapVR46]

​@@JohnWarren Yh well with your videos you speak English i sometimes can't understand Australian

[@m.sydneyvern2260]

@@MadeByPerspective Yeah thats a one in billion

[@SiVlog1989]

I remember thinking, they called this the "Endurance Layout," and they weren't kidding, it was a real test of endurance watching the 49 lap race with so little action

[@PyroBun_2844]

To be fair, at least they tried the endurance layout and keep the original layout, unlike keeping it.

[@MadeByPerspective]

True that!

[@easyenetwork2023]

At least they did ruin the track (looking at you Imola).

[@Cynderfan35]

@@easyenetwork2023 *looks at Hockenheim track that was butchered by its owners*

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

Tried the worst/weird circuit once + keep the greatest circuit forever = Formula 1® that I needed.

[@gamerzone0764]

Bahrain outer needs to be used very alternative year(like genuinely), It was too fun to not be used again.

[@MadeByPerspective]

I totally agree with this, I loved it!

[@fjkhamdan]

It maybe stale tho. I think a sprint for outer would be better but 🤷‍♂️

[@snobey]

2010 - endurance layout 2020 - outer layout 2030 - ?

[@MadeByPerspective]

Desert drifting?

[@scuckplexity]

The "V8 Supercar" layout

[@sirkdagamer0853]

Oval layout

[@nathanstroud2223]

Qualifying on the traditional layout, a sprint race on the oval, and then the Grand Prix on the outer circuit. There's a practice session on each layout, but you're only allowed to participate in one of them, so you have to choose wisely.

[@mrbungle3310]

Inner layout

[@_shreyash_anand]

The ironic thing is that the WEC also uses the normal GP layout, as this is just too tight for any full size racing cars

[@jclips2098]

It looks like it would be a great track for moto gp. They should look into it.

[@juckyvortex]

I tried driving the endurance layout in the Toyota hypercar in Ac. You are basically driving blind. It's so tight that you can't see the current and next corner.

[@thespuditron9387]

The 2010 layout was really good fun to drive in the game, but in real life, it was shocking. The regular track and the outer loop were class though. 👌🏻

[@Sebastianraikkonen_actualname]

I still remember when this happened, pre-race it's for the larger grid! Post race it was a one off for the 60th year of F1 🤣

[@NeelkanthEarthmovers]

I want to share an incident of Belgium GP 2021. It was raining from the start and I was feeling sleepy. I slept and when I woke up it was still raining.

[@KingofWolvesii]

I quite liked this circuit in the F1 2010 game!

[@fymemo1457]

Same but that was when i was like 3

[@thomaspiscioneri7917]

Same bro was quite nice playing it in the game

[@kay-j2268]

Please I was so bad at that game lmfao, always going off at turn 1 I think it was and getting beached in the sand, getting lapped by the front runners and thinking I was racing Michael Schumacher. Good times

[@bestoftherest1031]

Yeah but it was hard. It was a spin festival

[@sissyspaceship]

Same. That back hairpin thing was neat!

[@nathanthomas1582]

4:36 is the reason i gave this a thumbs up

[@leoc544]

They could alternate between the GP layout and the outer ring layout each year. It would be super super cool

[@JohnLawley24v]

or just do a double header

[@elexios6208]

interesting idea, what if the outer but also possibly the endurance layout, was used for testing as quality of overtaking opportunities are irrelevant and It would deprive teams of running data for the first race and imo less data always makes for a more interesting race.

[@terminateshere]

I remember getting F1 2010 for the PS3 and hated the way I had to play this track first. I loved the outer loop layout in 2020 though, which as you say, uses some of the same track. The difference - on the endurance, turn 7/8 precedes many slow corners, so is of little consequence laptime-wise. On outer loop, a good exit from 7/8 makes all the difference on the run down to the final real corner.

[@alsa4real]

I genuinely thought everyone had forgot this layout.

[@TheSt1092]

I think the original layout is best . The Outer Loop wasn't bad for a one off . I did not like the 2010 layout

[@LukaCuturic]

Should've used the Endurance Layout for pre-season testing

[@vz4579]

THANK YOU PERSPECTIVE!!! For your quality videos. When you upload I know I’ll get some quality entertainment and information and I always look forward to your insight into formula 1 mate.

[@Efstathiou66]

The endurance layout will be nice for preseason testing

[@thomasjohnybastian7847]

2:00, well ur not gonna believe what happened this year

[@rcl998]

I really loved the outer layout for Sakir 2020

[@mrbungle3310]

We miss on one more i think,the inner layout ,but not the one with the shortened T1,the one when its like a street race,its so interesting that theres like a mini oval around the paddock

[@oxcart4172]

Weird how none of the drivers have mentioned the bloody awful human rights record there

[@Zeus_9137]

Why do they have to mention something which is not true but a propaganda

[@wild_lee_coyote]

Imagine if they used the endurance loop as a Joker lap like they use in Rallycross. One or two laps out of a race have to be done on the Joker (endurance track). This would allow cars stuck in a battle with a slower car to undercut and find some open track. Since everyone would have to take it at some point during a race it would add new dynamic and strategy to the race. It also would keep the race order in question since everyone would be mixed up depending if they have taken the Joker or not. It would make for some very interesting racing.

[@chelovektm5180]

They should do a 60 minute period in testing where the endurance layout is used.

[@SharpeRacing]

I wonder, how well does a GT or LMP race car perform on that endurance layout?

[@tsujimasen]

Test on the Endurance layout, following week, race on Outer.

[@rohanprakash124]

The endurance layout isn't even used by the top endurance series nowadays

[@Sebastianraikkonen_actualname]

WEC?

[@ksask2675]

@@Sebastianraikkonen_actualname That uses the F1 layout only

[@Sebastianraikkonen_actualname]

@@ksask2675 👍 thought they used the longer circuit 😅

[@ksask2675]

@@Sebastianraikkonen_actualname Yeah I too was surprised when I first found out haha

[@Ikcatcher]

I kinda missed when Bahrain was raced in the day

[@soundscape26]

Agreed. In fact I dislike night races, they have no racing atmosphere at all. It was nice to see for the first couple seasons in Singapore but the novelty quickly wore off.

[@delayed_control]

1:59 This sounds hilariously familiar now.

[@samuelececchin9654]

Afther this beautiful analization. I need with the "oval layout "

[@hamza-chaudhry]

I don't get the argument about the endurance layout not providing enough overtaking zones. Where the layout diverges from the regular one, there's rarely any overtaking there anyway. The problem is probably that it increases the lap distance which reduces the laps & hence reduces the amount of time cars go past actual overtaking zones like turns 1 & 4.

[@TheTotallyRealXiJinping]

Ah yes, Herman ‘90 degree followed by sweeping corners’ Tilke.

[@uap24]

His tracks were either too good or too bad.

[@kevinsmits1196]

4:36 literally made me cry

[@sqweeps.03]

It’s a layout you kinda look at and go, *AUGHHHHHHHH*

[@EmmEmmE777]

Dude, you know that @3:30 turn 4-5-6 if u consider just the flow are the same corners of Bahrain short, where Russel overtook Bottas in 2020, most exciting overtake of that race for sure. The endurance layout was inappropriate in 2010, but in 2020 would have been as good as the outer layout, imo.

[@nicholashe1198]

4-9 was where we saw russel overtake bottas. From there it’s a few slow corners and we’re back on the original track. I don’t think it’s terrible, but it doesn’t add much.

[@stefanstenroos6344]

I remember watching this race. I also remember falling asleep during this race.

[@commanderlewisskipperton8721]

The Bahrain endurance layout was a cool idea, but it ended up so shite that even the most competitive era of F1 cars couldn't make it exciting.

[@Gothstana]

Can you like, actually explain *why* the endurance layout isn't good? Instead of just rolling your eyes and going "yeah I dunno it's not good". I was hoping for some kind of explanation or analysis, not light disgruntlement.

[@tesseract_uk]

i haven’t watched any WEC there but if they still use it the infield section must be a nightmare for passing a GT car if you’re in a Prototype

[@NONOOBZ4EVR]

Perhaps the endurance layout would benefit Pre-season testing; a wider array for teams to test aerodynamic, braking & cooling properties, and perhaps making the actual Grand Prix less predictable. I dunno.

[@nisdj2243]

ya this is true

[@subhasgram]

Turn 4 to Turn 9 were used in 2020 Shakhir GP

[@duckthisplanet662]

Turn 4 here is basically the hamilton line

[@MalloryMinerva]

I wonder if it would be possible to have a sprint race at Bahrain with the outer loop for the sprint race and the normal layout for the sunday

[@Ali.Yousif]

That's brilliant actually! Outer loop for a sprint race would be so much fun I imagine

[@timjennings8152]

i would love to see a sprint race weekend at bahrain with the sprint being held on the bahrain outer circuit and the feature race on the standard track

[@ianriggers]

I remember this layout wasn't the best glad they didn't use it again

[@renarsklavins9850]

You know there is actually one thing i want f1 to try on the bahrain gp in the future and that is change the location of the start/finish line. You question where well how about the pit straight that is between turn 10 and 11 since that section is kinda made as a start/finish straight so why not like maybe in next year they should try it.

[@joshragsdale2946]

I might be the only one but kinda want to see fuji again if only for one session

[@easyenetwork2023]

I actually liked the half oval at Bahrain better.

[@plisskenationbackfromthede3657]

I always thought that for testing they should do 1 day on each layout, the high speed one, the other normal one, and the twisty endurance layout. Could have almost the best of all worlds. I mean cmon you have a track with such different contrasting layouts which is great for testing but they only use one. I get theres alot of logistics to it but i think it could be doable. Make testing a full week. Put a day in between each test day to change the track around

[@m.sydneyvern2260]

Yeah endurance turns 7 to 13 looks like total mush you get when you play with your food as a kid.

[@45Twig]

Curious to see how the following would work (thinking a little left field on this in all honesty): 1st 3 turns as usual, before using the connecting road between just after T3 & the traditional T10 (it's already there, so why not?). From there, run T10 to T5 in reverse, before using the outer loop the rest of the way around. I can certainly see the need for some reprofiling in order to get this to "work" as such, but what do I know? Just a schmuck throwing his 2 pence in here.

[@Jorge.Painkiller]

I'd love to see another Bahrain GP in the day it will put tire management to the absolute limit

[@Ali.Yousif]

March in Bahrain is really all over the place in terms of temperatures during the day. It could be quite hot, like right now, it could be bearable or could be "cold". You never know

[@Zeus_9137]

@@Ali.Yousif well on the day of the race the weather is unexpectedly cold. The temperatures during the day are ranging between 16 to 19 with very strong wind forecast

[@Ali.Yousif]

@@Zeus_9137 true, the last few cold days of this "winter" are supposed to take course over this weekend fortunately, though the temperature is 25, at night. That's why I said it's all over the place really

[@shmet]

Better than the Outer lay-out though

[@heeltoeautomotive4962]

Looks like he sneezed when drawing a track map. Or the track has brain tumor

[@soundscape26]

The normal layout is clearly the best one. Not a fan of either the endurance or the outer layouts. The latter being better than the former but still too simplistic imho. Nicely put video... maybe a new feature before each GP? I'm all for it.

[@User-wh4xi]

4:43 My reaction to 4:36

[@carsonmcmanaway252]

4:35

[@BarikYT]

Why the dudes with the Portuguese flag? Ps: SUUII

[@SamPalmer63]

Thats amazing

[@Ziggyzaggy300]

Is this a re upload?

[@MadeByPerspective]

Nope

[@Ziggyzaggy300]

@@MadeByPerspective okey

[@lorenzodemaio747]

What is the name the song?

[@BauhauF]

It loos good for testing to be honest

[@milkshakemuncher]

I like the Endurance layout, it had technical corners and high speed straights. Sure, like you said, it caught out Chandhok and Hulkenberg, but that's what we want from grand prix circuits, something which catches out drivers if they make the smallest of mistakes. With cars of 2022, if regulation changes have worked and they are able to follow closely, then this layout will succeed. Cars can stay close in the twisty technical section, then slipstream down the straights.

[@arnoldnigel662]

True

[@sleepingsword69]

goofy ahh sound at 4:36

[@matthewnone9273]

goofy ahh sound on gawd bruh

[@RadityaPramanaPutra2001]

My Dream For The Bahrain International Circuit🏁🇧🇭: Grand Prix Circuit: F1®, F2, F3, F4, W Series, Porsche Supercup. Endurance Circuit: WEC, 24 Hours of Bahrain. Outer Circuit: MotoGP, Moto2, Moto3, MotoE. Inner Circuit: WTCC. Paddock Circuit: WSBK. Oval Circuit: ????? (Reply This Comment) 30/01/2023 09:54.

[@sheldoniusRex]

You should have shown both layouts side by side for newbs and to highlight exactly what was bad about the long one.

[@Battyounca]

That track sucked

[@wanr5701]

I wish they use this layout for Sakhir GP instead of the Outer Circuit layout.

[@FourCues147]

Forth 😀

[@mrblueberry19]

Second

[@malavshah5230]

First

[@MadeByPerspective]

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