When Friends Become Foes - The Cost of Leaving Islam

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Abdullah Sameer

Abdullah Sameer

3 жыл бұрын

When Friends Become Foes - The Cost of Leaving Islam on ‪@FriendlyExmuslim‬
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@apocalypticskepticus3299
@apocalypticskepticus3299 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the most gentle, inspiring and amazing persons. I am sure new, real friends will eventually come along, who will appreciate you as a person, regardless of your religious convictions or lack thereof.
@AbdullahSameerVideos
@AbdullahSameerVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MM-oj8vb
@MM-oj8vb 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbdullahSameerVideos if I was ever lucky enough to have a friend like you, I’d count my lucky stars!
@unclegardener
@unclegardener 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbdullahSameerVideos Yeah I’m a Muslim and you look like we can have a proper discussion unlike other ex Muslims
@JP123JP
@JP123JP 3 жыл бұрын
When you have such friends you do not need any enemies🥶
@medullary8476
@medullary8476 3 жыл бұрын
A true friend will support you for how well you treat them, not for your stance on some abstract idea.
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
It's not like Abdullah sameer supports muslims on their belief though?
@727Phoenix
@727Phoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses can identify with so much of what you've been through, as well as former members of so many other cults.
@MenacingRabbit
@MenacingRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
You need to stay with biblical doctrine and avoid those mega churches and false man made doctrine. Many don’t want to read so they get misled.
@MenacingRabbit
@MenacingRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
@Art Becher Islam is one of the worst cults ever ! Are you a follower of prophet Muhammad?
@MenacingRabbit
@MenacingRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
@Art Becher al salaam maleko, I hope you Ramadan is going well? May I ask if we could have a proper discussion without insults, deflections and especially Taqiyya! Would you be willing to come decent your prophet and his teachings?
@MenacingRabbit
@MenacingRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
@Art Becher Paul lying doesn’t change anything about G-d, all of mankind is flawed from the beginning including Muhammad. Which version of the Koran would you like to reference from? I take it you accept the hadiths as well correct? Are you Sunni or Shia ?
@MenacingRabbit
@MenacingRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
@Art Becher Paul also killed Christians, Moses had anger issues and killed Egyptians and Noah was a drunk. What does this exactly have to do with G-d again? G-d uses us all to carry on His message. Let’s check the many versions of Koran; 43:10 Sahih International [The one] who has made for you the earth a bed and made for you upon it roads that you might be guided Muhsin Khan Who has made for you the earth like a bed, and has made for you roads therein, in order that you may find your way, Pickthall Who made the earth a resting-place for you, and placed roads for you therein, that haply ye may find your way; Yusuf Ali (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way); Shakir He Who made the earth a resting-place for you, and made in it ways for you that you may go aright; Dr. Ghali (He) Who made the earth to be a cradle for you and made ways for you therein that possibly you would be guided. So which one of these Koran versions is the correct and true? It’s talking about earth being flat! Do you consider suffi, Shia, wahabe and Sunni to be Muslims?
@rossini55
@rossini55 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you got "disfellowshipped" like the Ex-JWs get.
@atheisttycoon9124
@atheisttycoon9124 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, keep on. We would shore you up as much as possible.
@wepshead
@wepshead 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Christian and some of my friends are atheist but we are still friends and I respect their decision.
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman 3 жыл бұрын
People are hard pressed not to be better than their religions. Its actually a great challenge in many ways.
@agffans5725
@agffans5725 3 жыл бұрын
You have never made a study of David Woods life story then. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJWveotpq796gZo
@hinduhistorian3957
@hinduhistorian3957 3 жыл бұрын
When I was in Uni I knew plenty of "Muslims" who cared more about World of Warcraft than about Islam. I think they'd most likely have abandoned Islam/not identified as Muslims if it weren't for familial/societal pressure.
@freelanceopportunist559
@freelanceopportunist559 3 жыл бұрын
You *were friends because of mutual interests. That interest was islam
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you've had friends because you had something similar to each other it strengthens the bond. When that's gone it's normal to detach.
@Thugnificent99
@Thugnificent99 3 жыл бұрын
In Islam faith is thicker than blood
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thugnificent99 Any thiest loves God more than anyone else because God loves them more than anyone else ever can.* 'And [yet], among the people are those who take other than Allah as equals [to Him]. They love them as they [should] love Allah. But those who believe are stronger in love for Allah.' (Quran 2:165)
@hanaaahmed6039
@hanaaahmed6039 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend stopped taking to me when I left- it was hard but that’s how i knew it wasn’t real. I’m way happier now and with people who love me for me- not for a religion
@TravelGirl_windy
@TravelGirl_windy 3 жыл бұрын
I am all alone after I left the religion of peace. I kept it secret for almost 5 years, when i knew that i can stand on my own feet then i told my family.
@atheodorasurname6936
@atheodorasurname6936 3 жыл бұрын
U should be commended for your courage and persistence. It's hard to be an ex-Muslim openly. Not all that long ago, even in supposedly secular countries like the US, it was hard to be an ex-Christian too. It still is for some, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, fundamentalists, or Mormons. These large powerful cults start to improve only when publicity reveals horrifying and embarrassing facts about just how bad they really are and ex-believers start to leave in droves, taking their money with them.
@timetraveller5721
@timetraveller5721 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Abdullah really appreciate u for choosing humanity and truth over friendship and relationships ☺️☺️
@oneworld2724
@oneworld2724 3 жыл бұрын
“The wise man lets go of all results, whether good or bad, and is focused on the action alone.”
@heyderaliyev8976
@heyderaliyev8976 3 жыл бұрын
Sameer, another amazing video arrangement, you are bringing ex-muslim experience up to another level bro, you gonna attract far more young ex-s behind you 👍👍👌👌🙏🙏😚😚❤❤
@alphabeta1337
@alphabeta1337 3 жыл бұрын
Leaving Islam is punished with death
@jojames6621
@jojames6621 3 жыл бұрын
in islamic countries it is.
@gloriascientiae7435
@gloriascientiae7435 3 жыл бұрын
@@jojames6621 yeah indeed, in the west you dont killed, but i never knew a ex-muslim girl that still had family. lesbians, converts to other religions, ive seen it man.
@gloriascientiae7435
@gloriascientiae7435 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oxygen11115 Nope, indeed. Its in hadith. Sahih Bukhari 9.84.57
@jojames6621
@jojames6621 3 жыл бұрын
@@Oxygen11115 its in an authentic hadith. And almost all islamic scholars agree the penalty is death. Even ali dawah admitted this and said it on his channel.
@kaydenchan7093
@kaydenchan7093 2 жыл бұрын
@@gloriascientiae7435 that’s why many reformers (Quran Only) is like “tHiS iS wHy wE nEeD tO aBanNdOn tHe hAdiTH”
@kkentertainment1990
@kkentertainment1990 3 жыл бұрын
Superb creative things u added in your videos
@exmuslimtabasaran1359
@exmuslimtabasaran1359 3 жыл бұрын
Cost of leaving islam is-"imam ahmad says because,abu daud says,because buhari says,because attirmizi says,becaus sahih muslim and at tabari says that sheikh muallim al dollar ibn euro abu frank"and also haram+haram=halal.
@bilalali7336
@bilalali7336 3 жыл бұрын
how does a person follow islam knowing how misleading and harmful it is?
@PRINCESS2527
@PRINCESS2527 3 жыл бұрын
Brainwashed
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because they know what the real and whole Islam is and don't get brainwashed (as the person above me said) by people who just cherry pick somethings and leave the rest.
@atheodorasurname6936
@atheodorasurname6936 3 жыл бұрын
Fear.
@itszahin1244
@itszahin1244 3 жыл бұрын
the misleading and harmful thing is your brainwashed thoughts encouraged by thes ignorant formers.
@ashleytheseeker8480
@ashleytheseeker8480 Жыл бұрын
It's that last ditch effort to hold on. We're taught to say 'I believe in Allah and his messenger ' when we hear/feel doubts. We think this must be my 'jihad to fight this waswas. We also put the blame on shaytan....since ya know we obviously can't have a different opinion, it must b the devil right?
@tacos394
@tacos394 3 жыл бұрын
keep making videos!
@thejunkyarddog732
@thejunkyarddog732 2 жыл бұрын
Same I still find it hard to believe that someone could lie as much as this and I still am open minded to monotheism but I know what people think about my beliefs it’s depressing
@silverltc2729
@silverltc2729 3 жыл бұрын
You know it is a cult when you can't critique the leader. You know it is a cult when you are not permitted to leave.
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
Everything's a cult nowadays..
@silverltc2729
@silverltc2729 3 жыл бұрын
@@muslimwhostrying Almost everything. Ask the question does my cult impede the individual liberty of another cult? Does their cult stop you from having your freedom? If you believe in the Creator of Adam, or a higher power- on judgment day you will stand alone. People need to be free to make up their own mind- not cohersed by force or physical violence.
@muslimwhostrying
@muslimwhostrying 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverltc2729 Never thought of it like that. But what if I make sacrifices to prove my faith upon God? And to prove I love him?
@silverltc2729
@silverltc2729 3 жыл бұрын
@@muslimwhostrying You mean Qurbani? Sacrifice that you do in front of others? Consider prophet Ibrahim. He was *asked* to sacrifice his own son. (Debateable whether it was Ishmael or Ishaq). It didn't happen, why? Because 1. The Creator of Adam knew what was already in his heart and you could argue that he didn't even be needed to ask 2. It sets a precedence for the future events- i.e the notion that the Messiah was sacrificed for your sins because it is the Creator that loves you more than you could ever love him. I will assume you don't believe that this incident with Isa happened. If you know the Creator hates sin, why do you still sin? 3. It took life away from his son- after Abraham we know Moses brought the 10 commandments. One of which was "Thou shalt not kill". There is nothing that you can do to save yourself. It is by the Most Highs grace and mercy alone. I can back this with scripture. Can you remember Cain and Abel? Can used his own works for the atonement of sin but Abel used an innocent lamb that God provided. Cain used his hands, and it was a bad sacrifice. All Abel did was spill the blood and have faith that it would be accepted. The difference is, we are not lambs, we are human beings with equal right to life and a freedom to love our Creator and fellow humanbeings.
@silverltc2729
@silverltc2729 3 жыл бұрын
@@muslimwhostrying Iblis is all about hate.
@AndrewMartinNZ
@AndrewMartinNZ 3 жыл бұрын
The mutual interest was Islam.
@starskylon
@starskylon 3 жыл бұрын
You have all of us who follow and watch your videos !We all love you the way you are as you saying truth !Wish you are free to say in public everything you stand for but cult -Islam make it too dangerous. !Cult is like virus but this one spread and corrupt the brain .Most of Muslim nation people are innocent but once starting to follow or practice that evil cult they become infected .Again some could be good in core but stay infected as there is no way out or cure within those society .PLS stay and keep safe..give them back love as they are victim of that cult of personality .Allah in Islam is irrelevant but person and teachings they follow is very worrisome and seriously evil.There is no love care and feeling for unity outside that cult but hate and rage .Once you leave it they will be after you .. DEFINITELY CULT AS THERE IS NO WAY OUT OF IT !
@saadshoaib901
@saadshoaib901 3 жыл бұрын
this is just the worldy consequence something that is factual is death and what lies after is much more worse hope Allah guides u and us all
@sameera6255
@sameera6255 3 жыл бұрын
poopoopeepee
@user-xy3dp9ec8e
@user-xy3dp9ec8e 3 жыл бұрын
Holding "good" values and morals and even have the sense of feeling guilt and shame proves that their is a God. And most of us regardless of having faith or not and believing in God or not sometimes have this feeling of guilt and shame if we do something considered "wrong". Even the concept of right and wrong proves there's an all-judging god. Because if there was no God and no right and wrong and no concept of heaven and hell then you would never even have these innate feelings of sometimes having guilt or shame after commiting a wrong-doing. The fact that their are good deeds and bad deeds prove the concept of there being a god who will judge us accordingly. And the fact that your spirit/soul gravitates towards doing reightous deeds shows that there is an innate moral compass within us, this then demands the question; why do we have this innate moral compass? Well its because there is something called justice. And justice within itself proves there is a god. And this human need for justice shows us that there is a hereafter. Because alot of the times in this temporary world we won't be served justice, for e.g. someone might murder another human or rape a child/woman, and they never get caught due to police (police are humans) negligence and because of the deficient human justice system that us humans have cultivated for ourselves, these criminals then live the rest of their temporary life scotfree and in some unfortunate cases without even feeling remorse. So then what about these people i.e. both criminals and victims and what about the need for justice. If there was no hereafter then why is it that sometimes these criminals go scotfree in this world. Its because there is an all-judging god who sees and will judge in the hereafter and will take them to account. If it wasn't for a god then why are we even here, this concept of living and being created would be silly if it wasn't for a god to judge us and for there to be a hell and heaven. Guilt and shame is a feeling from god and to do the right thing because there is an innate desire of our souls to reach heaven. At the end of the day we need god, God doesn't need us. For the thousands of Muslims who leave Islam, Allah will ease the guidance of thousands of non-muslims into Islam. So you leaving islam has no effect on Allah/god. Atleast no athiest can deny that we have some sort of soul/spirit, this innate being inside us craving a source of divine power, without this divine power we would feel a void. For those who just think they were created to be on this earth for a few decades without reason and then die and thats the end of it are just pure ignorant and foolish. The fact that there is something called death is the ultimate proof of god, an all divine power beyond any other power in this world. For those who for e.g. die of natural causes they themselves don't decide when they will die, if it was upto us all we would want to live forever. But the fact that we have no power over our death, by that i mean nobody can prevent death, everyone and everything in this world will taste death at some point no matter how much they try to prevent it, this just shows who is in ultimate power; God. Essentially athiesm is just name for someone who considers themselves to be their own God/judge/provider/forgiver/helper.
@atheodorasurname6936
@atheodorasurname6936 3 жыл бұрын
You just jumped to a false conclusion that holding good morals or values somehow "proves" that your "god" exists. Wrong. It does not prove the existence of any "god" -- let alone yours. It just means a person has an innate logical ability to determine what is fair, just, decent conduct, what their family and community approves of as morally right, and what they disapprove of as wrong. Just as we have an inborn sense of physical balance and imbalance, we also have an inborn logical sense of what is good and bad, moral and immoral. No "god" whatsoever is needed.
@atheodorasurname6936
@atheodorasurname6936 3 жыл бұрын
You misspelled the words "there", "righteous", "committing", and "atheist". Several times you ran two words together, such as "alot" instead of "a lot" and "Atleast" instead of "At least". You used "its" where you meant "it's". You put a semicolon where you needed a colon. Etc. All those misspellings and poor punctuation make you look careless and ignorant. Education and spellcheck don't require any belief in "god" but they can still be your good "friends".
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ Жыл бұрын
A scholar in any religion is the same as a scholar in Zues or Odin or any other myth. Choosing to major in theology or becoming in scholar in religion is like marrying your kidnapper, because you are becoming an expert in myths you were brainwashed in as an innocent child. originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
@larytang
@larytang 3 жыл бұрын
It's them that hell awaits!
@beinghuman185
@beinghuman185 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Imagine even saying that 😂
@exchristianprince798
@exchristianprince798 3 жыл бұрын
@@beinghuman185 Christianity the law states. States you should be stoned to death!!!!! in Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; 7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; 8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: 9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. 10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
@yawarnazir395
@yawarnazir395 3 жыл бұрын
I am Ahmadiyya Muslim, want to talk you brother.
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 3 жыл бұрын
Why ?
@dhanishkadar2862
@dhanishkadar2862 3 жыл бұрын
No bro talk to me
@nourah5033
@nourah5033 3 жыл бұрын
Are you ever gonna change your name?
@atheodorasurname6936
@atheodorasurname6936 3 жыл бұрын
He probably won't change his name despite its religious connotations. I'm an atheist from a Christian background. My given name means "gift of god(s)" in Greek but i have not felt any need to change it.
@jackkraken3888
@jackkraken3888 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that apostasy doesn't incur nearly as much capital punish shows even Muslims know it's not a good thing.
@Scharel
@Scharel 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻🇮🇱✝️☸️🔥❤️
@Rico-Suave_
@Rico-Suave_ Жыл бұрын
watched all of it,, , , , I don’t see any evidence for anything un-natural, therefore I am not convinced that there is anything unnatural or supernatural like gods, spirits, miracles, magic, ‘jadoo’, ‘jins’ and ‘rooh’ and gods . originally from Karachi Pakistan and Teer Haripur Hazaara, now ex-Muslim Atheist, , , ,
@theguynextdoor4978
@theguynextdoor4978 2 жыл бұрын
Not that different from Jehovas witnesses. If you leave, you're shunned.
@abdullahbhatti.
@abdullahbhatti. 3 жыл бұрын
You weren't ever a muslim if you can't understand why did your friends left you
@shahsaud2625
@shahsaud2625 3 жыл бұрын
You have been debunked many times ..so stop crying
@liberator275
@liberator275 3 жыл бұрын
well maybe none of these people were friends to begin with
@sameera6255
@sameera6255 3 жыл бұрын
do words not mean things? how else do you define a friend? that way if anything's nulled, you can just say "xxx isn't true because it was never true in the first place". ridiculous man
@liberator275
@liberator275 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameera6255 the point here is that people stopped being friends with him after he chose to leave the cult. not much of friends they were to begin with.
@sameera6255
@sameera6255 3 жыл бұрын
@@liberator275 I understand your point better. I lost all my muslim friends after I stopped practicing. Not even admitting atheism but just not praying and doing normal things. Family keeps you at a distance. It's disheartening.
@liberator275
@liberator275 3 жыл бұрын
@@sameera6255 sad but it's a sign of a cult. consider something else where you can find real friends. perhaps consider christianity with a strong community. When someone leaves Christianity, people hope they'll come back but they normally don't shun that person or cut ties. what a sad religion allah's religion is.
@Felix-sc8ku
@Felix-sc8ku 3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to believe in Allah but I can't , Why doesn't Allah make me believe in Allah?😂
@surewin3307
@surewin3307 3 жыл бұрын
U wanna denounce Islam,nobody stoppin u n its your choice but when u chose to be atheist,why dont u bash other religion since ya'll dont believe any of it.
@surewin3307
@surewin3307 3 жыл бұрын
@Raghav Ron to avoid further embarrassment,do u know what is the meaning of cult before u make that claim LoL🙄
@surewin3307
@surewin3307 3 жыл бұрын
Islam is a continuation of Abrahamic faith till the seal of the Prophets Muhammad s.a.w about Oneness of Allah Swt plus over a billion followers throughout e world so how can it be a cult u silly hindu😏
@surewin3307
@surewin3307 3 жыл бұрын
If both word bigotry n ignorant are a human,u shld be one of e best example for it🤭 Why did u delete your earlier reply anyway which explain the definition of "cult"??i get it,does not fit your narrative innit😶
@surewin3307
@surewin3307 2 жыл бұрын
@Crowonoobycool6 what cult got to do with Islam also those apostasy law does not exist in Quran the only criterion n supersede Hadiths n all. n Prophet Muhammad s.a.w would never go against the Words of Allah Swt.if such punishment do takes place in "arab countries",i think lot of people would be killed nowadays since quite a number renounce their faith but nope it just didnt happen though such law actually were commanded in the bible
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