When Investing in Magic The Gathering Boxes GOES HORRIBLY WRONG

Collectibles is a Fantastic PART of any portfolio.
Collectibles is a Fu**ing disaster if it is the ENTIRE portfolio.
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Rudy's Magic Store
10950-60 San Jose Blvd.
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Jacksonville, FL 32223

[@jadejenny2134]

Rudy thanks for buying my product. Keep making awesome videos. For everyone concerned and talking trash...I sold because I wanted to turn it into some legacy staples I'm able to get on the cheap. I own a small business, and time is money, hence why I was willing to take a larger hit, about 28% to Rudy on my sealed product, which is not much more than the 18-25% you'd lose selling stuff individually on TCG player with way more time invested. I understand buy and hold very well, this is just for fun, it's ultimately not a real investment strategy for my future.

[@dewhirst69]

Jade Jenny what did you pay for each box ? We all want to know

[@jadejenny2134]

Well as along as Rudy +Alpha Investments doesn't care, Rudy feel free to take it down if you want. I paid the following... Avacyn - $163.35 BFZ - $110.99 Conspiracy: Take the Crown - $63.95 Conspiracy - $89.37 Dark Ascension - $103.46 Dragon's - $85.19 Eldritch - $68.98 Fallen Empires - $109.25 Fate Reforged - $76.34 From the Vault - $35.11 Gatecrash - $53.44 Innistrad - $272.82 Khans - $99.26 M14 - $86.21 Oath - $78.57 Origins - $91.40 Planechase - $92.57 Return to Ravnica - $84.41 Shadows - $69.30 That should about cover it. Those are average prices, a few boxes here and there, maybe 6 total from my LGS that skew the average prices a bit.

[@jadejenny2134]

+srdalgic not really sure what you're asking, doesn't make sense. The above prices were my average price for each item. Rudy paid me approximately 70% of my cost to purchase everything, that includes shipping.

[@12P14D22C]

he paid, so its his buy in price. i think rudy payed one big price which would make it impossible to nail down the price for each box and set.

[@jerimenolan4809]

Jade Jenny No harm or loveloss imo for pursuing what makes you happy, even if on the surface the logic behind the decision isn't obvious to everyone. Good luck on the new direction

[@Tyrael17X]

If i Had so many booster boxes I would come home one day, drunk out of my mind and open them giggling in childish joy falling asleep on a bed of magic cards

[@PatternLand]

That sounds awesome and sad at the same time

[@ZankokuNoYami]

I dream of the day I have that many booster boxes.

[@seekethtruth]

I'm certain the existential dread of organizing and categorizing those cards will be acute.

[@gbjanuary]

That sounds a lot of fun 👀😀

[@ConnorDMoody]

@@seekethtruth So much this. I have boxes that I could crack but I don’t because I don’t want to organize them. I already have 20 4K count boxes with sets back to revised.

[@pboytrif1]

Look at this amazing packaging.. *boxes crashing heavily onto floor intensifies*

[@AffinityforMTG]

I don't know anything about investing, so I have nothing relevant to add. Other than the fact that I want to open all the boxes. All of them!

[@Sheep101]

Same, with the difference that I dont even know anything about magic...

[@springont]

GamePlayHD Dude try it out it's amazing. A bit expensive, but incredibly enjoyable

[@epiphanyunleashed7341]

OrganicFlu A bit. I think the average magic player spends $40000 in their lifetime

[@flaminggorilla909]

How about we split them?

[@jacobferdinand6469]

@@epiphanyunleashed7341 why not just use a printer and print and cut the cards out instead? Just glue them to playing cards if the game is fun

[@CoffeePoints]

"What great packaging!" *continues throwing everything onto the ground*

[@gbjanuary]

Weird right 🥸

[@Sheepy007]

You may fool the others, but you're not fooling me, Rudy. You again aren't wearing any pants in this video.

[@testthewest123]

He never fooled anyone, he openly admitted it. And if you would be a truthful person, you admit right here and now, that you didn't wear a pant as well as you were typing your comment!

[@Sheepy007]

I am not wearing any pants writing this comment either.

[@yunarukami974]

Sheepy007 Me too

[@Beerpowered]

We should find someone good at making clothes design/produce Rudy some Floppy Taco print Yoga Pants.

[@Volkbrecht]

And here is me, imagining the bottomless joy of an Alpha Investment fan gathering...

[@CD-hp6zy]

I'm watching this in July 2021... Turns out he didn't need to wait 7 to 10 years. I can only imagine if he just held on just a little longer. I hope he grew his money that he got from this sale.

[@samuelchoi1432]

im new to magic, care to explain?

[@Vdiguf]

@@samuelchoi1432 I’m not sure but I think that a bunch of those boxes are worth a lot know :]

[@andrewmyers9199]

@@Vdiguf that is exactly the case

[@Dhips.]

paper hands can't hold

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

@@samuelchoi1432 hold your cards. don't sell them. they will go up in value 100% guarantteed. a 10 cent card 20 years ago is now a dollar. that is 10x its value. so take that into consideration

[@nickfraley7584]

Looks like he had the right idea in product diversification, but sometimes shit happens. Hopefully things work out for the guy.,

[@testthewest123]

How is that "product diversification" if all he invested in was WotC product, all with a long time frame and a substantial risk if it ever goes up? What if he needs money? No short term assets in here. What if WotC reprints the living shit out of the game? No non-WotC products here. You are making the same mistake as the dude ho had to sell. You think you spread the risk, while actually you are all-in on one product category. This dude wasn't financially stable, but though he should invest in long term stuff. That's just a disaster.

[@jadejenny2134]

Don't worry guys, that makes up about 5% of my investment portfolio, I wanted to purchase another expensive MTG product and wasn't going to dip into the other 95% of my more liquid assets.

[@doodles1195]

Jade Jenny have you by chance mentioned the price the product was purchased for original? were you paying 80 a box or 100+? just curious on how much you were able to pay..

[@jadejenny2134]

Everything was bought in the lat 20 months or so, when I got back into MTG. So for instance the Innistrad box was $270. About 20 of the boxes I got for around $63 on special sales. Very little was bought at my LGS because they charge $118 a box. Most boxes were in the $70-90 range. From The Vaults were all under $40.

[@nickfraley7584]

Well I was referring strictly to mtg investments simply because this is a channel about investing into mtg and other tcgs. And I am making no mistake because I am investing no money into mtg.

[@Infernal_Nipple]

"look a this packaging!" *Throws box on the ground*. Nice...

[@powerblockgym]

serip drives me crazy

[@davidc4983]

Let's get this out on a tray

[@evokaiyo]

Nice!

[@redholm]

@@davidc4983 Nice fizz.

[@timandshannon03]

I had the same reaction!

[@MTGObsession]

it's funny watching this video in 2021, almost 2022... and everything skyrocketed.

[@imlost19]

just a paper hands bitch lol. that's what happens when you overdo it.

[@leejoshua5610]

he fucking choking right now I know he feels kick in the dirt

[@Jistarii]

As someone who never could afford actual magic cards as a kid this makes me very jealous of having all those cards to be able to make some Decks.

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

you can always get back into magic. you dont need to spend an arm and a leg.

[@cwk0ss]

Have you considered investing in shelves?

[@DaytonaRoadster]

Have you seen his arms? Rudy doesnt even understand the meaning of the word sleeve

[@sliderdrago8189]

@@DaytonaRoadster wtf are you talking about?

[@DaytonaRoadster]

drago whoosh

[@sliderdrago8189]

@@DaytonaRoadster nah. Youre just a loser.

[@DaytonaRoadster]

@@sliderdrago8189 everyone else got it but you, dumbass

[@nerxboy]

kinda ironic listening to you saying how good of a packing it was, for you to 2 seconds later throwing the packs on the ground lmao.

[@jamesmorris4984]

He's a spoiled manchild that doesn't appreciate anything.

[@doctorandywho3273]

@@jamesmorris4984 oh boi

[@bart1105]

This is what I like about your channel. You tell it as it is. No sugar coating. No telling everyone to invest in magic unless they have a secure investment and alot of extra capital to tie down. again, great video and keep it going.

[@dcshoes841]

That box is used for shipping fish. The styrofoam is lined with a plastic bag, then the fish and lots of ice are packed in. A styrofoam lid is put on, then the cardboard box is sealed. I worked at a fish market all 4 years I was in college.

[@pnyhmsmx]

Darmath I wasn't aware of that.

[@TCP2k10]

I don't know what to do with this information

[@dancampbell5068]

Also used for raw dog food too!

[@antonyjaamess8469]

Cards probably smell like fish too XD

[@zhhsshhhd5949]

Lol I worked in an aquarium and that’s how we got shipments of saltwater fish

[@MrRuff-cc3lg]

All I can think is, "Man, I could draft for days.". #bliss

[@CommanderReplay]

Not weeks or months though ;)

[@MrRuff-cc3lg]

Commander Replay lol

[@KalosPVP]

I've never drafted outside of Arena, I want to so bad!

[@VillageConMan]

Watching this in 2019, and many of these boxes went up considerably. Pretty interesting.

[@Hundo_Mo]

I feel bad for the guy who didnt wait some of his investments out.

[@azlucky1762]

@@Hundo_Mo I was thinking so hard about how the prices might of changed in 3 years!

[@keywacat]

Rudy did call out in the video that Jade couldn't hold for the 5 - 7year timeframe, and if he still has the 2 Boxes and Lotus he sold these to purchase he's doing alright.

[@keywacat]

@@Hundo_Mo Sometimes one has to liquidate something at a loss to take advantage of another opportunity. Back in 2017 would you rather have all these or 2 Boxes and a Lotus? Hell, now in 2021, would you rather have all these or 2 Boxes and a Lotus? :-)

[@atomicstbernard]

@@keywacat 2 boxes and a Lotus is the answer

[@chrisr.2410]

Love going back and hearing what the prices on these were at the time. Interesting to see what's stayed flat and what's gone way up.

[@ChosoDFK]

This video aged beautifully. Thank you for recording history

[@cyborgar15]

The $150.00 Fallen Empires box now around $1000..

[@JeffThompson-mi7su]

Hahaha I know I'm in 2024 watching this I bet it's probably 300k for all that stuff

[@dfreshness2006]

When I was in High School I collected all the Revised edition multilands to where I had 4 of each. I sold em all for $5 each when I stopped playing. Whoops.

[@ElfHostage]

“multilands” lol

[@mayorpauline7828]

Box 1: 2 Battle for Zendikar 1 Innistrad 2 Avacyn Restored 3 Dragons of Tarkir 2 Dark Ascension 1 Fallen Empires 7 Khans of Tarkir 1 Planechase Anthology Box 2: 7 From the Vault: Lore 1 Magic 2014 1 Eldritch Moon 5 Fate Reforged 2 Conspiracy I 2 Gatecrash 4 Conspiracy II Box 3: 3 Return to Ravnica 6 Oath of the Gatewatch 6 Magic Origins 5 Shadows over Innistrad 1 Commander Anthology

[@johnhammond6225]

Watching this in 2021 hurts. This man could have waited 2-3 years and made out like a bandit if he wasn't over paying. Patience is a virtue and not everyone can wait I guess.

[@rokmare]

Also you have to pick and choose your products not all boxes are created equal I tend to avoid the lottery boxes and anything after amonkhet.

[@anthonyanderson3448]

Agreed buying sealed product to a popular game is a good idea. In fact I think in five more years the boxes would be over a grand or two. if he could wait it out.

[@TehBananaBread]

What people like you not understand is opportunity cost. If he put the money he got from the sale in ETH he would have 40x'd. Last 2/3 years there were wayyyyyyyy better investments than a x3 from illiquid boxes.

[@DetroitTyler]

He could be doing better on the things he pivoted into. An above post says he got into some legacy reserved list type stuff, so even taking a minimal loss could have positioned him into making a great move with 2-3 years of growth on it. Sometimes you take an L to get a bigger W

[@broganson]

Rudy, could we please get a video that encapsulates your 4+ year old sealed box collection buys? I think they are super fun to see how much value they have accrued over the years!

[@TheRageFiend]

I don't know anything about Magic somehow found this interesting.

[@ST-actual]

TheRageFiend dead ass. No idea what's happening but i looks cool

[@brandonscottdurocher8523]

TheRageFiend same here bud but , I’m a geek and like all things nerdy lol

[@PandaPowerable]

lol I thought it was an online game so don't get it at all and not sure why KZbin suggested it!

[@king-emperorbotolfzainisem730]

Same

[@kylenishida3469]

South park cock magic lead me here lol

[@councilgatewatch2062]

Well Ceepy Rudy, thanks for taking the time to share this with us. It seems that some people begin investing and do not realize the risk or the time that must be put in to invest in this game that we all love.

[@wowtimeup]

Very valuable lesson, Rudy. I was curious about the investing, but after remembering the previous video you recorded where you set the realistic bar for point of entry into MTG Investing; I thought I'll just stay a competitive player.

[@PurpleLightning6was9]

I love how you compliment the packaging as you throw around the cards. Might be my new kink.

[@myinfinitestate1586]

I don’t know a damn thing about magic cards, nor do I know how or why this was recommended to me by KZbin? However, I truly enjoyed watching this video along with several other videos of yours. I was shocked at how expensive magic cards are, especially after they’re graded by PSA. Thanks for the entertainment and knowledge!!! Cheers from Western Australia.

[@0ZoneZer]

ya he spent all that time packaging all those boxes properly, just so you could throw them all down on the table... man ...

[@SOLtoo]

Secret of investing: sit on CA$H and wait for other "investors" to hit hard times, then offer to bail them out for 30% discount. Wait 2-3 years then quadruple your investment.

[@toatoa10]

that's what I did last March. it was beautiful 🥰

[@akuulikesmagic5259]

i think he unloaded those ftv slightly too early. i think dark depths is going up in price with solemnity, along with glacial chasm and phyrexian unlife. also i think another valuable lesson is dont invest if you cant live without the $$ your using to invest.

[@mattiaswrande1909]

I have no clue whatsoever about anything related to MTG or any other card game.....But what triggered me is watching you toss the boxes around like you don't care about the content. If they get scuffed up, won't that potentially affect the value of whatever's inside?

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

a box of cards is like a brick, are you kidding me? assuming it stays dry and he doesn't dent the corners or puncture it, he can take the shrinkwrapped box and toss, plop, slide, or bump about all he wants and the cards will be fine. it still made me wince.

[@myrealnameisjohndoe116]

Yeah, that was definitely a little hard to watch, but *nothing* compared to how UPS/FedEx/USPS/AMZL drivers treat packages...😳

[@TheBoundlessVids]

@@myrealnameisjohndoe116 for real if people think he's being rough they should see how shipping companies handle their packages.

[@smartpig2386]

"the guy lost thousands of dollars. Mostly because he sold them to me"

[@user-kf6vv2qq1h]

I think things goes horribly wrong at the point, when you decided to invest in something like collectable card games in the way presented. If you want to invest in something, better pick something else. Numismatic valuable coins, for example. Prices on those shows stable growth. Or you can open game store. That way investing in MTG would be perfectly normal. And you would be able to put 1-2 boxes per set into hybernation for years, in case prices eventualy rocket.

[@sevenofclubs]

Every intro has a foreboding feel and an other worldly ness, over these vignettes we can see a man slowly spiral into madness, where will it end, I see flames and laughter.

[@grannorbe6452]

With this video and Jade comments ( I am glad you were not too damaged about your initial investment ) , all the "investors" are receiving a free lesson that would cost a $$$$ course. Hands down. Probably one of your best videos post-floppy taco era.

[@vegasus4503]

I was into Magic when it came out back in the 90's I could have invested into buying Alphas and Betas unopened boxes back then, but i was just out of High School. I had no capitol at the time. These cards prices blew up in the early 2000's i heard not so much now. That's how it goes i guess, I just didn't have the capitol to buy a whole lot back then.

[@mtgphil42]

The man could have at least tripled his money had he waited until today...

[@brandonfiest6368]

dude some of those are 5-10x....i just went through all his prices on his sets vs current prices and not ONE set is at a loss. only 4 years later. wow

[@daxl153]

Fallen Empire boxes are at 750 to 1K. When he said 150 in the video, I cried for the original investor a little.

[@Manysdugjohn]

@@daxl153 in other comments he said he invested to an unlimited lotus and 1 unlimited mox and one beta mox with the money he got from these, so he is fine i am sure.

[@static8051]

The wave of envy I felt when I saw three unopened Return to Ravnica boxes... my god I WISH I had money to buy even one box of that set, one of my favorites just for the theme alone, same with Gatecrash and Dragons Maze

[@lotoex]

BFZ is about 175 now and Khans at 180. Interesting how much of a difference 2 years can make.

[@liquid-slick]

Watching this in 2019 hurts my soul a little bit

[@priceless3020]

Why?

[@sumwatt]

@@priceless3020 Some of them finally appreciated. The Conspiracy sets, based on the seller's avg buy price if bought at release (and based on the prices, I'm not sure that was the case) would have returned 13% annualized if sold at today's prices. That's a pretty good return. Conspiracy TtC if bought at introduction would have returned ~21% annualized. Thats an even better return. But as the seller said - time is money and he had other things to do with his money. I hope it worked out for him.

[@Manysdugjohn]

@@sumwatt yeah he invested in an unlimited lotus unlimited mox and one beta mox. i think he is fine.

[@mrivera6975]

I'm just gonna guess that the Rudy (house) wins?

[@meikvincenco1584]

Wrong! He bought that stuff to lose money.

[@kingjames4886]

so the issue was over-investing more than poorly investing...

[@lynx50187]

Look how good these were packaged! Casually tosses boxes all over the plaxe.

[@HAL--ov4qu]

Hello, I was thinking of opening an online MTG selling store, I was wondering how much you actually save buying from a distributor. I know they say around 45-47 percent of MSRP but I have rarely seen a box sell for anywhere near MSRP prices. So lets say a box sells on ebay for 100 dollars, what on average would be the cost from a wholesale distributor? I am guessing about 80 dollars? So maybe only a profit of 20 dollars a box?

[@DetarDeatter]

I am shivering when I imagine the beautiful smell of all those boxes wrapped in plastic! :D

[@TheRealMrRoboto]

You looking to buy out collections? I started playing in 94 - I stopped in 2002 sent $200-400 per cycle. Tons of Dual lands, some power 9. I wouldn't really want to try to ebay them one by one or anything I'd rather dump everything all at once.

[@patrickbousquet9158]

Yes! What are you looking to get?

[@turdferguson3091]

styrofoam makes the worst fucking noise on the planet.. worse than a dry queef. jesus.

[@ensteffo]

Most things are worse than a queef dry or not.

[@HunterBelkiran]

ROFL

[@intuit13]

my ex-gf was scared shitless of styrofoam (because of the noise). I asked her if she wanted to go see Styrofoam Sanchez with me.

[@soulsreaper7145]

yeah I muted the begging because I woulda vomited and rolled on the ground if I heard that sound, I can literally deal with every other sound in the world but stryofoam I'm out that bitch running down the road

[@ensteffo]

So rough on the poor boxes :-/

[@DragoonBB]

Don't worry they don't feel pain.

[@HoshiArt]

Hey rudy, I was wondering if you have any advice on buying authentic boxes and avoiding scams. Got any tips?

[@josephmoore286]

I remember finding 3 unopened booster boxes in my basement one time while cleaning it from around the Ravnica release. Tripled my money when I sold them on eBay.

[@PloyBoy]

Khan is the latest good set. Kaledash is just a ton of fun, Everything new is overprinted lotory which no one wins

[@ZankokuNoYami]

Reading this two years later and seeing many of those doubled in price haha

[@daved22]

Anyone do a summary of the total inventory of this lot with its today's price ? I have really enjoyed going back and seeing this older videos especially with what going on with AFR and Crimson vow.

[@r5n]

take a blowdryer to the shrink wrap to tighten it up, just dont hold it to close to on 1 spot or long or itll burn through

[@StefanoAgrotis]

Interesting to look back almost 5 years later and see just how much things can change.

[@professormuscle]

conspiracy box $70 in 2017. 4 years later it's at $250 Just need to wait it out.

[@dpaek85]

Oh, this was 4 years ago! I was confused thinking this was 2021

[@magicjnkie216]

I know, right? Khans boxes for under invoice?!?

[@Crypto4]

Dude packages these perfectly to protect them from any possible dents or damage and you just toss the boxes around like they are worthless garbage :(

[@jedediahgordon4064]

I noticed that too

[@fawkurface46]

it's ok. he will go back later and take pix of shipping damages and demand a refund if nothing good is pulled. (jk bud I know your not like that, but some are)

[@rickpluta4848]

This guy didnt stay the course...

[@lieutanantrabb2]

Great Video. What do you recommend for buying at the moment due to an investment on a time horizon of several years? Especially in the field of actual diyplay boxes or other compilations since they are cheaper to get than old stuff? Best greetings from Germany to you and the other guys! You are a great team!

[@DrPapperman]

How do you edit your videos? They way you interacted with the green-screen background was amazing

[@eace446]

Even if a set sucks doesn't every box eventually go up because of age?

[@myrealnameisjohndoe116]

Yeah, that is some incredibly nice packaging right there!😏 I've started investing in the Pokemon TCG, and so far have had an ETB and a pack of cards arrive in nothing but Amazon's bubble wrap envelopes

[@steeveedee8478]

I remember reading a new computer gaming mag and seeing one of the first adverts for Magic announcing its forthcoming and wondering what it was. As a non-player I'm still not totally sure what it is all about but it seems to be more betting on the future $$$ value of cards than playing an actual card game.....

[@V2ULTRAKill]

Naw for the average person involved yoh dont plan on making your money back Its a black hole where monry is sunken for cardboard rectangles We do treat our value cards better thsn our lovers but most of us dont treat it like in investment, we treat it like that rare sentimental item

[@piiik3]

i was also named loss prevention captain for my district....this included securing valuables. performing audits on around 20 stores..and processing all damaged and defective merchandise

[@kevinbaker7288]

I played majic with my brother in the early 90s still have a few of the cards in original boxes are they worth going through to sell?

[@davidrosenzweig1380]

Yes

[@johnharmon1403]

Out of sheer curiosity, the next time you buy a collection like this, could you open them and show the notable pulls?

[@oecw124]

Watching this now, had he held on he'd be rolling in it

[@lgutts8610]

RUDY DESERVES 100k he is THE ALPHA INVESTOR!!!!

[@FIREKING001]

He's almost there :)

[@MonadProxy01]

but where is the Beta investor ....

[@lotoex]

About the wrapping: It could be a little different, but I worked at Sony for 6 months and every shift would assemble 70K dvds so a good 20-30 dvds we would just say fuck it on if they were not that bad.

[@nexusofice9135]

You know a game/collectibles have gone terribly wrong when people start talking about about "investing" in the merchandise. Why not actually invest in a business? A merchandise hoarding business doesn't count. That is one of the reasons that the hobby or game that these people play or do is so expensive.... because of hoarders like that. It artificially inflates the market for that hobby.

[@SOLtoo]

is MTG in a bubble right now? I saw the same thing in comics (late 80's, early 90's) when producers started raising prices to outrageous levels (double masters VIP packs anyone?) then they flooded the market with all of the alternate cover issues to get collectors and investors to buy even more (regular, foil, textless and box-topper editions, anyone?) What happened is they forced a huge percentage of their buyers out of the market and next thing you know -> downward spiral that ended in bankruptcy and a TON of comic shops that had been open for 20, 30 even 40 years closing. Word of warning Hasbro: don't do us dirty!

[@MrDeathbydying]

That's how I look at it. The one thing MTG has going for it, is that players as well as collectors are after cards. Bayou is expensive as a collectable, but also because it is needed for a competitive deck. As long as WOTC doesn't get so predatory with their business practices as to turn away the whole player base, the practical cards at least should hold some value

[@odoacredacalcutta5085]

so basically he lost 30% of his money 4 years ago. Now it turns out he lost 200% of it as they went up in value.

[@Cal-fr9mw]

I feel like investing only works for stores more than a regular person. Because buying from distributors at a cheaper price makes it so much better financially

[@Just_Pele]

The difference isn't nearly as much as you think. Even fairly big shops pay $82-84 for regular draft boosters, when anyone can buy them after they're off allocation for $90. The margins are tiny.

[@ThomYorke1488]

you took him to hose town

[@packman222]

The ironic thing is that this video is about Investing gone wrong but we see here that for Rudy it is an investment gone right!!. We see both sides. Rudy lives and breaths magic and has the contacts and capabilities to turn a profit which not everyone does.

[@Delamorth]

OF COURSE he failed the investment.. Everyone knows all the real money is in the Zendikar Expedition, Kaladesh Inventions and everyones personal favorite, Amonkhet Invocations. Pfff. I have spent all my savings on foiled EVOLVING WILDS. We will see who laughs in 5-10 years.

[@TheP3t3rGriffin]

if they will stop reprinting evolving wilds every 2 sets :D

[@thefloydfan7092]

I have so many Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse, I consider using them as toilet paper...

[@chandler1473]

TheFloydFan learn how to throw cards with them. That's what I did.

[@jackmusic500]

still can't buy yourself a girlfriend

[@jedediahgordon4064]

idk, that Fallen Empire set was the third set printed after beta, and the first additional card set to the game, since alpha beta were the same cards just updated wording.

[@dexam1234]

i bet he changed his mind by now lamo happend to everyone of us

[@kabba4575]

Well....its pretty obvious with newer products that you have to wait years!!!!!! around 7-10 years for prices to go up it's really obvious.

[@ninchia]

"Let's go through it" I thought he was going to open up each sealed box lol

[@knifetech101]

You can get that loose seal (albeit not that bad) in newer sets too.

[@LoliZer0]

damn so all these double master booster boxes i have is a waste? gonna dump them

[@aarodful]

This is why you need emergency funds. Have enough to pay bills for 6 months. It takes some time to build it, but in the long run you will be better off by reducing risk. Emergency funds protect your investments. If shit happens and you need cash it is much better to pull from a money market account than have to liquidate a long term asset that has not reached expected ROI. Also, if you have more in an emergency fund, you can lower you insurance premiums because you will have cash to cover higher deductibles.

[@lotoex]

The guy did comment that he sold this so he could buy Unlimited Louts and Mox Jet, and a Beta Mox Sapphire. Your advice is good, but the video is slightly misleading.

[@aarodful]

lotoex ahhhh. Rudy mislead me. I read the guys post. I guess Rudy assumed he needed cash because he sold them at such a discount. Thanks for the clarification. Guess he just wanted to shift his portfolio and was willing take the hit. I know Rudy would give the same advice. I used to rent cars for a living and was continuously amazed by the number of people who clearly had no savings. Soooo many Timmys out there.

[@GuruIV]

i don't even like magic but I'm in this weird KZbin Wormhole Yikes!

[@cozmorobotshow1767]

well rudy, funny thing is i didn't invest in sealed product, i invested in crap bulk, with the intention to get crap bulk and from that have over 20,000 different cards collected. on ebay alone people are pushing that high of a rate at 25 cents per card so roughly for something i spent under a hundred hours putting together i'm looking at a $4,500 return easy lol.

[@Robert-vk7je]

I don't understand: What makes a set "good" or "bad"? Is it the playability of the cards in it?

[@smalltown4855]

at times like this, I find a chocolate Brazil Nut focusses the mind wonderfully.

[@omgitsme435]

Damn dude, he packaged those things like they were glass and you just fucking them up all over the place 8:14

[@nemesis3295]

I'm not sure if you can help but in 2008 ish I was at a magic the gathering tournament at a local game store where the winner got a box that had like 10 or 13 or 15 dragon cards in it. It was kinda a wide box with a clear display and I think 5 of the dragons were on display. Anyway I just wondering if anyone know what this dragon set was called so I could look it up. Thanks.

[@devoidjames1]

does it add to the price if you throw the box? "great, great box" - :thunk:

[@chataolauj]

Investing in any type of cards (e.g. baseball, MTG, etc.) is difficult because most card prices don't spike to the point where you see a return value until 10-20 years later. MTG investment is difficult since card prices are dependent on demand, and demand is usually influenced by consistent cards featured in Top 8 finishes at major MTG tournaments. On a side note: I just want one of those boxes.....just one.

[@pnyhmsmx]

chataolauj seems to me the best way to make money with mtg is to buy and sell cards, everyday.

[@azlucky1762]

*Me: Hoards 1000s of cards from throughout the ages of Magic.* *Also me: Has no one to play with now*

[@christopherstrader4416]

"Obviously BFZ did not." I love going back to watch the old Rudy videos to see the insane value a few years down the line.

[@jomembawang]

You do realize the "insane" value is because of dipshits like Rudy right? Horders are literally ruining mtg, it forced mtg to print all sorts of version of cards etc.

[@kevink6265]

This is currently how I am investing in magic. I only buy a few boxes at a time, then let them ferment in my basement for 5-10 years. Then when I need the money I sell some or all. Its mostly just a minor hobby, but I have never lost money doing this, probably make 2-3x what I paid for the box originally, some times more, future sight I'm looking at you. Any way, good insight.

[@beckykay7287]

The ones that are worthless open them I don't understand why buy them if ur not Gunna open them they are to be played with not kept sealed.

[@Firewalk1989]

Meanwhile in 2021 even freaking Fallen Empires costs $900+ a box now... *oof* - RA -

[@MicheleeiRettili]

I love how Rudy perfectly reads all the letter, but struggles reading only the word 'enjoyment' ahaha 3:01

[@larsfinlay7325]

looks like a case of chasing splashers. he bought after the premiums had already jumped so he realized that the margins he was counting on were unobtainable. sadge