When NHL Teams Write You Off As A "Gigantic BUST"

[@RobTalksHockey]

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[@MrMersh-ts7jl]

It's amazing that people have figured out that a team needs to function as a whole instead of a support system for 2 stars

[@JesusFriedChrist]

What?!?! No way…it’s almost like I’ve been saying that about Edmonton for years now! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@dugqs]

@@JesusFriedChrist nobody gives a shit respectfully, you're not that important ;)

[@bustywaifus]

@@JesusFriedChrist And the Leafs.

[@Ace96x10]

I don't think that many people have that figured out. I think people just go along with whatever everyone else seems to be going along with no matter how Facking stupid it is.

[@254zero]

I'll never understand the draft best available mindset. As a buffalo fan it's so incredibly frustrating to see year after year they need to add a gritty physical player yet every year they draft the best undersized "skilled" forward available. They now have like 6 players that all play the exact same style and offense is lack luster most games. If only they had a guy throwing his body around clearing up space on the ice so the "skilled" forwards can make plays. Log jam effect is real and I think the drafting best available is a major cause to that. I strongly think draft what the team needs and have that player thrive playing a role that the team needs over being 5th in line as the "best available" maybe getting 8 minutes a night

[@robertskinner6487]

Sounds like your describing my team the “Habs”

[@JesusFriedChrist]

Draft best available to suit your needs > Draft best available on rankings

[@jamielennard3388]

@@robertskinner6487 Slafkovsky (6ft3 238lbs), Reinbacher (6ft2 194lbs), Demidov (6ft 192lbs), and Hage (6'1 190lbs) are not undersized. Mesar is the only small guy they've drafted in the first round under the new management.

[@robinhoodwinker8621]

The idea to draft the best guy available is that he'll have the highest value. If he's not an asset to the team, he can be traded for the asset you need. There is certainly logic to this, though there are practical challenges, and some teams have executed it well in the past. This video is exclusively highlighting cases where this did NOT work and the opposite was effective.

[@lancegilbert1948]

​@@robertskinner6487agreed, not long ago this was true... Yet they've just now finally got the size and skill balance needed to win consistently. We'll see if they can climb outta the basement...

[@doubllechief6926]

The issue with trying to emulate the VGK is that they were picking from a crop of players that were either fully or partially developed, which is not the case when you’re drafting. It allowed Vegas to better optimize for positional need. Which is why it’s ideal to go BPA when there’s a sizeable gap, and draft for positional need when 2 prospects are close. Also, drafting in the NHL is such a crapshoot because these guys are way too young. Ideally they’d be drafted between 20-22.

[@spooley]

It's what made Sam Pollock so successful, probably the smartest GM in any sport. He took Bob Gainey with his 1st pick (8th) in 1973 causing a storm of criticism. Gainey had only 22 goals in the OHL. But he was the best all around player and ended up in the HoF, basically defined the Selke trophy.

[@canuck_gamer3359]

Pollock was a genius. Not only did he have the best scouts and then trusted their instincts, he also knew the importance of having the best development system possible. The players would learn in the minors how the system worked, so they were prepared if/when they arrived at the NHL level. They also learned how to win, even in the minors. He did it all!

[@sharpy3453]

god, dude made some legendary moves and picks. and montreal is also the reason the farm system exists, and probably the reason the nhl created the draft, to stop montreal and the other original 6 from signing everyone good.

[@ouzi9122]

No salary cap completely different world sorry can't even compare the two eras - signed by a red wings fan 😢😂

[@spooley]

​@ouzi9122 No sal-cap but also no players union. Players didn't make big bucks save for Bobby Hull jumping to the WHA. And when the union formed Eagleson was in the owners pockets before he was caught stealing from Orr among others. Most players worked summer jobs, some in insurance or sales, but many in construction or farm work. Yes, talking back when Gordie Howe returned home to keep his muscles in Arnold like condition pitching hay on the farm in SK. 💪

[@trevorwhatever2050]

Still hard tk believe JT Miller, Marchessault, Verhaeghe, and Gourde were all once upon a time all in the Tampa Bay Lightning system.

[@jonathanduplantis1403]

Why is that hard to believe? Do you know anything about hockey?

[@FowTTa]

Well Gourde played a few full seasons where he was good the other 3 you mentioned played like 1-2 years for a maximum of like 35 games so yeah the other 3 are quite funny to realize

[@rovshanavila5018]

It's like Herb Brooks said we're not looking for the best players ... We're looking for the right players! ... That model can take you a long way

[@r3dtig3r]

Personally, I'd draft the best player and trade for the pieces I need. Unless it's a center. Trading centers is rare in this league.

[@robertlevasseur6843]

What I have observed is the development system is so strong that it is producing too many highly skilled players which creates a bottleneck of talent. You also need grinders.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Agreed. This is what we’re seeing in Buffalo.

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

Need more Power Forwards, Grinders, Two Way Forwards. Not everyone can be a sniper/playmaker.

[@TheLsp2011]

I would like to point out that Boston had 3 consecutive picks in 2015…. And went SEVERELY off the board all three times… it did not work. They ultimately passed up Matt Barzal, Kyle Connor and Thomas Chabot.

[@SpiritOfMontgomery]

Any Jets fan knows just how got Patty can be. He’s had a rough go of it lately and that’s ofc impacted his performance. I just want him to thrive again, and maybe come back:)

[@valitsemllaluokanavahyvaks3556]

Scouting/Data Analytics has gotten way better which means u can go off the board more reliably.

[@fonz3668]

These videos are the best out there! No other creator can even compare with your level of craftsmanship and precise research. Keep up the videos rob! I know you’ll reach a mil soon!

[@Whippets]

Best player available is still pretty subjective since you are judging 18-year-olds that still have another 6-7 years of maturation, but your point has some validity even though no one is passing on a potential superstar in order to draft a player that may potentially "fit" your team better. BUT I'm also sure if you check the 32 team lists of prospects, you'll find plenty of variation even in the first round.

[@TheLsp2011]

Minnesota’s D core is looking young and scary. Especially on the backend, with both Brock Faber and now David Jiricek.

[@ianammon6040]

As a life long Penguins fan, I questioned them taking Jordan Staal at number 2, when Phil Kessel was available. Our last 3 first round picks were all Centers. Maybe if the Penguins drafted Kessel and paired him with a teenage Crosby, the Penguins would've been to easy to play against. As you've said, the NHL is a copycat league. Putting all of our firepower on one line would've made it to easy for other teams to defend against them (think the St Louis, Lecavalier, Richards top line in Tampa after their first cup year).

[@lightguy13]

don't forget that the wild also have Andy Ness - world class skating coach. he'll fix any skating issues for Jiricek and make him NHL average if not above average, just like he straightened out Rossi.

[@OttawaRocks]

If the GM and organization (new owners / management group) are relatively inexperienced then only go BPA. Otherwise go a mix of BPA and DBN (Draft By Need).

[@TantheMan415]

I think there needs to be a significant distinction between professional talent and prospects. Vegas took (or lucked up by the rules) 3-4 lines of established players and had some breakouts from underutilized assets. Prospects are not typically good in there first few years so your potential of log jamming them with your current teams strengths doesnt necessarily track since you’re looking at a 4-5 year outlook

[@franckthibault2521]

I love your content Rob, that’s an awesome topic!

[@duckattak]

Stop showing my sharks constantly getting dunked on 😂😂😂

[@Z666Man666]

As a rangers fan, Laf not on the pp pisses me off. But with a coach who’s stuck using the same 5 guys even thou they struggle. He’s so against changing it unless someone’s hurt and can’t play on it.

[@jimmyfitzgerald1404]

Yo same I’m a rags fan and I wish laf would get all the pp time I’m tired of seeing the zib one t miss wide or always get saved

[@SchulzEricT]

I told all y'all Rangers fans that Laviolette is the worst professional hockey coach I've ever seen and y'all laughed at me.

[@marciimeris503]

Glad to see it was my sparkle boys who showed the league depth is better than having 1 and a half super lines. Followed by the rest of your players being nobodies

[@peterdemint7195]

to be fair vgk trades away its future at every opportunity to 'win now' in a few years they will have no future left.

[@BostonShovinstuff]

I have a few people I can send this too . The car analogy is perfect bud lol . Good stuff , as usual 💪

[@goose3246]

David Jiricek will haunt CBJ for years to come like Suzuki with Vegas

[@markrouch4159]

this break down was super cool keep it up man

[@dozenthdragon]

It was insane that the Oilers moved out Ceci to make cap space but still didn't match on Broberg.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Personally I expected this result. But the upside here is that they add another massive piece in the draft. Then give it 2-3 years of growth

[@ximer21]

@RobTalksHockey love the video....by the end of the season though i think Hudson for the habs will be that "logjammed" player, he's been solid offensively on the second pp unit. Last night is the first time i seen him replace Matheson on first line PP. Watch him cook now, he just needs to get that first one potted and i can honestly say he will be in the running for the Calder this year. As a defensemen, I know its a longshot but he will be in that conversation come the end of the year i just know it. So dynamic its unreal and now with both Caufield and Laine as 1 time options on 1st line pp ice time LET HIM COOOOOOOK hahaha keep up the great videos my guy!

[@007Hutchings]

Matheson potential is hugely overrated

[@ximer21]

@@007Hutchings I don't think people think he's the second coming of Christ but he's a strong offensive d man, rough patch but i dont think he's overrated though imo. But has been having a TOUGH stretch lately....

[@kurtwpg]

A better question about Vancouver is why pick Willander over Zach Benson, who is from Langley and was rated BPA. It's rarely hard to find a spot for a scoring winger.

[@MistaZULE]

nah, Willander is a player you can't trade for. Dependable rhd with top 2 upside never go on the market and must be drafted and developed. Jiricek is a similar situation but his skating and development stalled and his personality is getting in his way. Willander's are essential to a team wanting to win a cup, and Benson (while great) is a scoring winger of which Vancouver already has a plethora of and is currently their highest rated prospect (Lekkermäki)

[@grantbourck8653]

This is why, when people say that expansion isn't viable due to a lack of a talent pool, I throw up.

[@Loyster14]

There have been very few players who can consistently live up to the expectations that were projected . In today sports world Owner Management are very eager to sign players to big contracts because of one or two decent seasons ..especially when free agency hits or trade deadlines trading futures who haven't played a game with the big team. Other side of this is players who have been told they are great since Pee Wee maybe even novice and believe in it and have an agent who's job is to get them the best deal for them but then can't figure out why suddenly criticism happens, they can't play up to the expectations live up to the hype find themselves in the minors or playing in Europe KHL.

[@learnthesystem6622]

What does the Thumbnail have to do with this video....booooo Rob....booo

[@birgerfurugard7259]

Eyy, No betting ad. This guy might win me back

[@michaelfortunato3117]

I wonder if the Pittsburgh Penguins Car Constructor Master Class is available. I was wondering what the next step is after I build a car with five engines.

[@Caniewaak]

Bit disappointed this wasn't about Patrik Laine

[@SaunaPerkele_5]

Because Laine isn't on the same level as those guys.

[@Caniewaak]

@SaunaPerkele_5 okay but why is he the thumbnail when it's not focused on him?

[@SaunaPerkele_5]

@Caniewaak Laine is most controversial player out of all of them. People love him. People hate him. There are jokes about his Fortnite addiction, his body made of glass. Many people feel like he's bust and then there are people who don't believe that. Laine especially right now is one of the players that can get most clicks.

[@SaunaPerkele_5]

@@Caniewaak let's be honest. Large part why you and me clicked on this video was that Laine was on thumbnail.

[@monarchistdesade6989]

RTH you and Hockey Psychology make such great insight about how hockey trends are evolving. You can clearly see how teams can manipulate their young prospects for cap salary projection, heck you talked about foward and defensive players. I would argue it's even worst for goalies. In MTL they're longing Fowlers and did the same with Primeau (but gotta admit Price cock block him for wanting a vetran as substitute). Then look Knight situation in Florida or Askarov in Nashville... But at the sametime it's such a fine (or thin?) line between you want the best rosters to compete or best draft picks. Like let's be honest... how many managements pulls below average rosters to "tank" for better draft picks.

[@Urbandaddycgy]

Oilers just exposed Broberg tonight, he’s not worth the price tag. I’m sure STL will enjoy having him while missing the playoffs

[@dimetime35c]

Who would have guessed a team game cant be won by one star..... in all seriousness id have thought teams knew this a long time ago, look at other sports where a team gets a bunch of superstars and then implodes cause suprise superstars tend to have as fragile of an ego as a teenager.

[@ozma6918]

"Can't take Zibanejad off the PP because his production would suffer" that's a player first mentality, and sadly in this league, you can't win with that. What if Zibanejad's production dips, you put Laffy instead, HIS production goes up, BUT, the combined production from Zib and Laffy goes up as a result? That's still a net win. That's still a possibility to win more games. That's what should prime. In a similar discussion, those in Montreal claiming "It's about time Hutson wakes up and scores a goal" he's a rookie defenseman with 15 points on his season but no goals. He's on pace for roughly 60 points. As a ROOKIE DEFENSEMAN. Who cares if he doesn't score a goal, ends up with like 57 assists. That's still helping the team score goals and winning games, which at the end of the day, helps the team. Maybe don't buy 5 engines for the car, but if you have 2-3 to swap around depending on what you need, then the car is more likely to run smoothly overall! :)

[@sharpy3453]

new york traded trouba

[@kyledavidson8712]

Best available always works on the franchise mode. Real dudes in a room though...

[@sharpy3453]

so teams are back to getting the besst thing they need? so pretty much what montreal did when they started the farm system and when teams would sign people back before the draft was a thing?

[@briangeary7684]

The Wild took Filip Johansson in 2018 and I remember the broadcasters and networks not even having film. Then in 2023 they took Charlie Stramel because he was a big center. What has saved them is they have been hitting in rounds 2-3 otherwise these two picks look suspect. This coming from the team that got Kaprisov in the 5th round so it is a crap shoot.

[@BUTCHauer55]

Awesome info on the new nhl

[@mortished]

93 isn't going anywhere, he has a NMC (no move clause) and won't waive it. Rangers are a mad franchise ... they were one game away from the stanley cup finals last year, won the presidents trophy, are one of the best team in the league those last few seasons, playing entertaining hockey with a tough foundation and magicians like Zibanejad, Shesterkin and Panarin on top of it all ... and they want to nuke their own team because of a few "bad" meaningless games in november ? This is suicidal

[@hrd2imagin]

Here's the problem with your analysis though.... Lafrenière just signed a 7-year extension so the risk of his value going up and costing the Rangers more money is gone. If anything, following your logic, they'd want to take guys on expiring contracts off the PP and put guys on that just signed... no?

[@eliaminator2313]

Lafreniere gets a good enough amount of PP time it's not the Rangers fault he just doesn't produce well with the time he gets. Sure Laf might put up more pts but he would probably still be a 70pts player which is fine for a 1st overall pick anyways not like he's bad

[@RobTalksHockey]

Is this the right approach to building a cup winning team? Or should teams focus on the best player available mentality?

[@SchulzEricT]

BPA obviously You fill your roster, address holes, through free agency; complete a contender (or jump-start a rebuild) with trades, but in the draft you CANNOT afford to fuck around.

[@MisterMister5893]

Holy, Laffy kicks Bob in the head after scoring. Lucky he didn't Malarchuck Bob.

[@Xavier-016]

Did bro just compare Laffs 7% to Matthews 26% of goals on the PP?!? Bro, it doesn’t matter what percentage of your goals on on the PP, when you score 69 💀

[@marcbabineau6001]

The point is he’d have way more than 28 if he was on the first PP

[@TyreaLSC]

In fact it does matter, but instead of arguing with you as you only see total goals and not the % of where and when scored you seem like an idiot and that's not worth my time

[@JohannesS]

You're as sharp as a bag of bowling balls skippy.

[@netepase3931]

Really interesting video wow… love it

[@DrunkwatchMandalorian]

Mitchkov didn’t want to play for the yotes.

[@sugibear123]

my Toronto Maple Leafs moved T Liljgren I think was a mistake we'll see

[@sharpy3453]

imagine if we got rid of the cap, and maybe even the draft and went back to the oldschool way of things s

[@AvAlanchian]

TL;DR - some of these top prospects are narcissistic jerks and it’s better to pick lower guys because you trying to make a TEAM

[@HockeyLocomotive]

When is the trade deadline and make a video about demidov

[@JaYPeeDee1025]

laff is our next captain

[@randomassname445]

Oilers are doing great without broberg. Meanwhile, the blues are slumping.

[@theScotian24]

The Oilers defense has been horrendous I dunno what you are on about

[@Skynertia]

​@@theScotian24 By what metric? Your feelings?

[@MistaZULE]

the Blues are a bubble team trending down while the Oilers went to game 7 of the SCF. Ridiculous to compare them.

[@Naka_-]

such a dumb comparison

[@cacamou3275]

dont remind me of kotkaniemi dude, we passed tkachuk for this absolute fucking grinder, and not a good one at that, montreal wouldve def needed a brady tkachuk and fans would absolutely love him, in an alternative world that is

[@wesbrown78]

Jiricek is not a great skater has defensive lapses at the NHL is demanding to be In the NHL but is not ready the games he has played in Columbus where not great

[@TheDeepShallow]

Laine enters the zone with his legs 5 feet apart routinely. He will suffer another catastrophic leg injury.

[@amsf1]

Every league is a copycat league.

[@MatthewLoney]

To bring the leaf's into this for extra views you should have brought up the opposite effect of paying your young players early causing its own log Jam of sorts where you cant even bring in new talent because if they succeed even a little they cannot afford them.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Definitely. Buffalo is the epitome of this

[@Your_Role_Model]

Florida Panthers keep showing you.

[@mildlyfunvids]

the knights bottom six for suzuki i dont think so sory man

[@JunkratJoules]

if you make this video 2 years from now, you would include Slafkovsky who has been called a bust before. Can't imagine if Habs went for Shane Wright instead. Now that is a bust.

[@dsc4178]

Bowen Byram is a winner

[@XPrezObamaX]

Its not really a bad thing to have a log jam tho... Young players need teammates to look up to and learn from. Look at Bedard right now... No log jam there, kid is insanely good, team is shit. Is what it is... If he was on Toronto or Oilers he would be a much much better player right now...

[@MrDeefleparde]

Big and Talented beats Small and Super-Talented every time.

[@Y.A.A.E.G._Games]

It was 1 game

[@yuranisbismelly2830]

I thought that Nuge is still playing😅

[@ronweasley4767]

Vegas was handed a great team

[@RobTalksHockey]

At the time they drafted their team, they were at the bottom of every power ranking

[@brennanlangva595]

Rob, I watch all of your videos. But, please vary the background music a bit.

[@patrickwilson9617]

Did you say "gold mind"?

[@SamtheBravesFan]

It doesn't help that Suzuki is on a bad team, so maybe he's just a "piece" and not a "guy" as it were.

[@stevencamp69]

Send laffrenier to philly! Go flyers

[@Friedcrew]

This could be why stamkos got moved

[@RobTalksHockey]

It’s definitely why Sergachev was moved

[@Friedcrew]

@RobTalksHockey yep unfortunately

[@BearBoxBreaks]

Love seeing players that were considered "over rated" by one team tear it up when they get traded. Really makes me wonder how good Shane Wright could really be if he was on a team that actually played him.

[@jfkst1]

I wouldn't call any of them "great" at all. Great should be reserved for future HOFers.

[@MistaZULE]

that's franchise... are we policing the use of the word great now?

[@jfkst1]

@MistaZULE Yes. Great is overused.

[@MistaZULE]

@@jfkst1 it's not though

[@jfkst1]

@@MistaZULE It is for anyone that understands the definition of the word.

[@MistaZULE]

@@jfkst1 it's really not. You're just hyper focusing on the word, and great means above average which most NHL players who get past 500 games are.

[@ericbarbosatravels1391]

So you said there weren’t any off-the-board picks at the 2015 draft.. you must be a Bruins fan Senyshen at 15 was a huge reach, and in retrospect looks like horrible management

[@RobTalksHockey]

Very true. I was referencing the top 10, but Boston did for sure haha

[@galkanftw]

Having a tool set is only a base req you need the hockey IQ to make best use of your tools and if your a real dumb player you might even be completely useless even with a a high end tool set.The NHL is full of dumb players mostly becuase coaching has not been good anywhere so players just hone their skills not their brains.3 of these players are ok they are decent in most areas of the game but Jiricek has not proven anything and the draaft picks MIN gave up to get him were imo pretty steep.

[@joshkay-jy6fi]

Lane hutson is being buried behind Mike matheson on the canadians first power play

[@austyn307]

Looks like that might change by the end of the season, already Hutson is seeing PP1 time and Matheson is struggling a bit, at least in the eyes of fans despite decent point production.

[@Cubaquois]

Too soft, too small, and should be a forward.

[@RobTalksHockey]

Apart of my theory is that they are trying to keep his production high to ensure they get good trade value if they do move him

[@ximer21]

he was on the first pp last night!

[@Mike-zf4xg]

what is this incoherent nonsense? the only log jam is the tag team stuck in your throat.

[@theScotian24]

Someones got some... unresolved preferences. (Thats you, Captain Projection)

[@MistaZULE]

Fuckin weird buddy...

[@kyledavidson8712]

Who hurt you?

[@icas80]

This generation is soft af.

[@AnHourOfWolves]

Nice

[@theScotian24]

Dude are you hurtin for content ideas lately or what? Im not even sure I know what this was about.. Love your vids, last couple have been a miss for me.

[@brandonn3543]

😆

[@Jewvana]

what? this video makes complete sense dog

[@kyledavidson8712]

Scotty you use your eyes and ears to watch a vid bud

[@slipper8105]

i would much rather my team draft what they need instead of picking up a guy that will barely get used cause he wasnt needed

[@melodiousshark7328]

bUt VeGas BOuGhT a CuP

[@CJH-zx3cp]

Odd choice in highlighting Matthews goals on the PP when considering he leads the league in even strength scoring almost every year, and has never really shined as with the man-advantage previously. So your assumption about Laf's production is highly flawed.

[@XPrezObamaX]

I mean the look at laff is not really good... If he is the main guy on a bad team, he doesn't get 28 goals... He gets 15, and his confidence and team is shit... Whats your point?

[@miken8889]

but laine is a bust, remember when he was picked 2nd overall, and hasnt been able to live up to that hype for 8 years now, thats a bust

[@zqc604]

Have you heard of getting injured

[@austyn307]

If Laine puts up even 1-2 more 60pt seasons, I think its hard to call him a bust considerding the personal issues and injuries. Life happens, but I am hopeful he is still gonna be a great player.

[@EveryoneIsAnIdiotExceptForMe]

Injures and and personal issues is what got in the way. He's a good player but not 2nd overall worthy.

[@shaunchappell784]

There are many things that go into being even a decent NHLer. Staying healthy Staying mentally fit Being coachable Being multi-faceted Being a 2 way player Being marketable Remaining injury resistant Doing the job This is not an exhaustive list. Judging how various metrics like this are used in other sports and professions anything below 66% is considered a fail....where does Laine fair?

[@theScotian24]

Lol ​@@zqc604

[@Cubaquois]

In Montreal, a player can get ice time like there's no tomorrow, and ice time equals good stats. Yesterday Laine scored and basically 99% of Montreal media didn't mention the fact that the goalie let in a floater. I'm all for a second, ah third, well ok a forth chance 😂, but Montreal fans only know Habs hockey. They don't watch hockey games, only Habs games. It's a rebuild right? Well if you are rebuilding, you want to have the BEST coaching staff to do so, but in Montreal, you only get the french speaking coaches that want to coach there, and they have picked a pee wee coach because the best coaches didn't want to come. They are still paying 4 coaches, and will be paying a fifth, because Hall of famer Martin St Louis will be fired before the end of the season. It's a toxic environment when you don't surround yourself with the best available pieces. Laine is a very talented player, but let's not put our heads in the sand and acknowledge that no other team was shopping him, and with reason. I wish the Habs success, but let's just be serious. 70% of the team is AHL players.

[@CrackerBarrelXheese]

You saying that Laine’s shot there was a “floater” exposes how little you understand hockey. That was a fantastic shot, what are you even on about? Marty’s not going to be fired this year either, and no, they’re not 70% AHLers. You just don’t know hockey as well as you think you do.

[@daveblanco8271]

90% of what you said is a whole lot of bogus.

[@Cubaquois]

@CrackerBarrelXheese rent free

[@Cubaquois]

@daveblanco8271 is this the comment section?

[@Your_Role_Model]

100% correct. I moved out of Montreal several years ago and stopped drinking the kool-aid. I live in South FL and started following the Panthers. Needless to say, it was an awakening. The front office’s mentality about building this team is exactly the opposite of Montreal’s antiquated ways. Panthers are skilled, but also tough as nails, big and have a lot of fuck you to their game which rattles opponents. The media here doesn’t overrate or overreact either. The vibes are just so much lighter all around. Great place to play, I can imagine.