When old tech is better than new

[@3mar00ss6]

anything with a headphone jack and expandable storage >

[@J.b6291]

And easily replaceable battery

[@3mar00ss6]

@@J.b6291 we kinda kissed that goodbye a long long time ago sad is the state of tech these days

[@PankoBreading]

God bless my LG V60

[@n1nj4l1nk]

​@@3mar00ss6it'll be back soon, the EU is making user removable batteries mandatory in all electronics.

[@OneNiftyBoi]

@@J.b6291 Easily replaceable batteries may be making a comeback with the "modular devices" trend.

[@juanxcruzx]

Audio devices never gets outdated

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@juanxcruzx they certainly age slower than most tech yeahh, it continues to amaze me how people will just buy the newest shite

[@walthefl]

Unless people buy AirPods or similar non battery-replaceable earphones…

[@J.b6291]

Except airpods

[@J.b6291]

And HomePod

[@movitz1579]

@@J.b6291The first ever homepod from 2017 still gets updates and will continue to for at least a year.

[@Larry]

The PS3 is a great old device now! No waiting to install new games, free online services and you can literally pick up games in CEX for pennies now!

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@Larry for sure. Been thinking about a console video for a while now. Thanks for watching!

[@Larry]

@@montaguebarnabasltd No worries, yeah, it's amazing how many people are sick of how modern companies operate and everything being a subscription service now. But a console video will always get good views, so well worth considering. BTW have you seen the details about Spotify's "car thing"? a $100 item that they're going to intentionally brick at the end of the year, so no one can use them any more.

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

Every time somebody on KZbin says something good about an old tech, prices raise a LOT.

[@ZachariasEnislidis]

what do you mean free online services?

[@TheOnlyPedroGameplays]

@@ZachariasEnislidis just straight up free, no PlayStation plus membership required

[@Sylykyn]

Unbelievable how you can just pull out the battery out of these headphones. People from 2012 were thinking in completely different terms.

[@kevinreyes8517]

I feel like it’s because everyone has happy and greed had not yet become the monster it is today

[@alexandercatterson223]

​@@kevinreyes8517 The economic collapse of 2008 says otherwise

[@amogussus2018]

@@alexandercatterson223 yeah but still after 2020 everything its even crazier

[@alexandercatterson223]

@@amogussus2018 Fuckin true that

[@FunFreakeyy]

Apple wasn't a small part of that change because everything had to be so thin, that you must glue and press it together. The worst eco design.

[@HansyPants184]

I actively avoid products that use an app or regular online updates as much as possible as a rule. Support is usually abandoned long before a device physically breaks these days.

[@techforever1970]

"Loud Fucker" for the B&W Zeppelin Air is an amazing name. Will use. Lmao.

[@ManoelAraujo-db9rf]

My father has a pair of headphones from the 80’s. Still working absolutely fine. Most of his audio stuff is from 30-40 years ago. My mother’s fridge is almost 30 years old. Things back then used to be tough.

[@GG-si7fw]

I remember looking at a home that had original central air unit and kitchen appliances that were circa 1992. We didn't get the house because we were dealing with the executor of an estate, which happened to be an attorney, who kept insisting on a larger than 20% down payment on the home. However, I remember telling my wife that we wouldn't update the appliances or the central ai unit as it lasted this long, and it'll last longer than whatever we replace it with.

[@SuperMrgentleman]

Admittedly a 30 year old fridge is going to use like twice as much energy to do the same job of keeping food cold. But I'll definitely take a 30 year old dishwasher, clothes washer or dryer, those things have done increasingly worse and slower jobs in the name of progress.

[@LAndrewsChannel]

@@GG-si7fw Certain modern appliances do still last for a long time, if you are willing to invest the time to find them and to spend the extra money to get them.

[@thisguysgaming7246]

Its software that kills older devices now sadly because companies don’t want our devices to last long

[@fturatti]

Nah, what REALLY kill devices today is the non replaceble battery.

[@LuckyLego]

Usually the software gets to limited by the hardware and that’s when they kill the devices. Unless it’s android then it’s just the companies being lazy

[@acoolrocket]

I mean its not purely out of spite, dev time to keep updates on all phones is just not worth it to most companies so they stop updating on devices say after 5 years.

[@Jergling]

Specifically, it's web-related software. If the device only ever needed to do the things it was able to do at launch, it would never go bad (other than batteries). Everything is a webpage now, and much of the web is only available through hardware and software built to handle its latest iteration.

[@protocetid]

We need legislation that forces companies to open up their gadgets to user made or third party software, you know the way it is on PC. People will keep things alive almost indefinitely with open source software.

[@glasseffect]

There was a time people were actually trying to solve problems. Then, the sustainability model kicked in, it's very essence is to sustain the problem, thereby the business.

[@J4ckC4ver]

I think this is a delusion. This model has always existed, we just talk about some products that were made well. This is survivorship bias.

[@glasseffect]

@@J4ckC4ver That's the sustainability model: Survive by sustaining the problem.

[@SuperMrgentleman]

​@@J4ckC4ver There's growing numbers of products that have just been effectively bricked because the company just decided to kill the server critical for use and wouldn't provide any other options for people to provide their own.

[@Sanguivore]

⁠@@J4ckC4ver I have countless products from ages and ages and ages back that still work very well, yet virtually everything I’ve bought in the past 10 years is lucky to last me a year. It’s certainly not a delusion, it’s the current business model for nearly every company you come across these days.

[@FunFreakeyy]

In capitalism perfect solutions are bad because you don't sell stuff if it doesn't break. The biggest downside of this model.

[@rtyt2007]

I use an Apple 30 inch Cinema Display from 2004. The picture quality is still fantastic and is sharper than most computer monitors sold in stores today. It has fantastic colours and I have no reason to upgrade it. It has a beautiful design aswell and still looks modern on my desk. I also have a Sony mini Hi-Fi system from 2000 that still works flawlessly and sounds amazing. With an AirPort Express it feels like a new speaker with airplay streaming. Crazy how long old tech lasts

[@Strongo]

I've been thinking about pulling the trigger on an old Apple Cinema Display, I see them on Craigslist all the time for under $150 usually and sometimes even free.

[@rtyt2007]

@@Strongo it uses a lot of power but oh my is the picture quality good. The colours are great and it’s really sharp. I have it connected to a thunderbolt 2 dock with a Mini DisplayPort connector. I then use the dual link dvi adapter that apple makes to connect it to the dock. I then use a thunderbolt 2/3 adapter to connect it to my 2021 MacBook Pro. It works a treat. Try and look for a cheap one, I got mine for $80 AUD on Facebook marketplace

[@BrianGon89]

Those apple cinemas were and still are great for color rendition. Nothing quite superseded them. There's better resolution now but that thing still looks great imo.

[@rtyt2007]

@@BrianGon89 yep they are fantastic. Don’t see myself buying a new monitor anytime soon. The combination of build quality and picture quality is perfect. 1440p is still plenty of resolution for my needs

[@JamPackedJack]

Go pies!

[@teddy0139]

I like videos about older tech... especially from 2000's and 2010's

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@teddy0139 me too!

[@real2kb]

older tech is normally at vw westlife channel youtube.com/@vwestlife?si=yOthrlVMHjqJAeYC

[@Subideable]

Yes more of this content! I have some kartell Philippe stark stools and this vid makes me want to dig more into his product design catalog

[@supremepenguin656]

same, there's just some charm to it.

[@v5hr1ke]

Some of the tech in the '60s, '70s, '80s and '90s are also underrated, but '00s and '10s are quite just as charming if not better tbh Like Walkmans... or boomboxes... or even physical storage discs like floppy disks and CDs Or even vinyl discs from the early 1900s lol

[@Cp-71]

When people see I use a 20+ year old mechanical keyboard they make fun of it - and I don't get it at all. It's basically the same thing as the stuff being made nowadays minus the aesthetics and fancy lights. Plus, the fact it's so old and still works great speaks volumes about its quality.

[@RusticRonnie]

I have never seen anyone make fun of a keyboard unless they are calling you a nerd for having a nice one. But I could see someone make fun of you for going out to buy a 20 year old one if it wasn't basically free, just because a good mechanical keyboard that is fully user repairable is like $20.

[@acoolrocket]

You've just talked with noobies then, most mech keyboard enthusiasts know how great even stuff from the 80s-90s are, minus software and maybe even keys like the Windows key.

[@supercellex4D]

Maybe they're making fun of the fact you're using a model M and have no idea how xpensive it is or something, enthusiasts think the holy grail keyboard are these old things

[@Cp-71]

@@RusticRonnie I got it for free so no issues. In a place I visit regularily I noticed an abandoned 20ish year old PC setup and knowing how good those keyboards are, I asked if I may take it. They agreed and the rest is history.

[@Cp-71]

@@supercellex4D It's not a model M but rather a generic clone. I don't complain, it's basically the same thing but with the windows key :)

[@MT-cd7cs]

I’ve just learned this. My Sonos Beam (4 years old) went down after the big internet outage. There’s no ability to use it without an internet connection .. absolute madness as it’s just a speaker connected via a cable. There is no physical reset button on the device, the plug is hardwired to the back of the device, it won’t reconnect and the only option is to unplug it.. and the plug is behind a built in outlet that I’ll need to disassemble to get into it. Sonos have automatically been removed from my list of companies I’d purchase from ever again because if they ever go out of business or drop support for devices you can no longer use.. a wired speaker. No need for this.

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@MT-cd7cs Christ alive. That’s pretty poor. Thanks for the comment

[@gigelfranaru]

You could just turn the breakers for that outlet off and then on again

[@FAKEAXIS]

Unfortunately, a lot of older smart home devices are starting to act up. My JBL link google home speaker has excellent sound quality, I have 3 of them because i got them awfully cheap. Google had a lawsuit from sonos and it removed special volume control support and made the product worse. They recently messed with google reminders and turned them into tasks and now i never get my damn reminders. If google stops supporting this speaker, there would be no way to use it as a bluetooth speaker unless you already linked it to a google account. The speaker has a micro usb port but its only for servicing, no analog in.

[@MT-cd7cs]

@@gigelfranaru smart thinking!! I’ve still not done anything with this but that’s what I’m going to do. Thank you for this :)

[@gigelfranaru]

@@MT-cd7csI hope it works 🤭

[@AverageCanadian-kl9re]

The pesky problem are devices using certificates or anything needing to connect to the internet to get something done. You can pretty much say goodbye to that functionality 5 or so years after updates were dropped for that device. I'm against the age old adage of "x device should not have gotten x OS update" because I think companies should be encouraged to support hardware for as long as possible and it should be up to the consumer to decide whether they want a faster experience or not.

[@gamagama69]

real. yeah it really makes me not want to buy anything that has network connectivity that i care about unless i can manage it myself❤

[@ThePC007]

@@GooseAffiliate859 How about a phone that is running an ancient version of Android and is still incredibly slow? I’ve somehow survived 10 years with my Note II before WhatsApp forced me to upgrade by dropping support for Android 4. :\

[@chowrites6179]

I greatly appreciate when people actually take good care of their old stuff and it lasts for years, even better when its used daily. Good on you man, I wish more people follow your example!

[@znatnodobre]

I still have speakers and DAC made in USSR and bought by my grandpa. They are far from hifi but still fan to use to listen retro music sometimes

[@BorisaComputers]

I also have a 30 year old Sony stacking HiFi system with Pioneer speakers, all working. Bought at a boot sale or Rastro here in Spain for 20 euros 10 years ago

[@JackStavris]

The oldest piece of tech I use is my keyboard on my home desk setup, I use an IBM Model M13 buckling spring keyboard manufactured in 1998, although the Model Ms actually go back much older than that to the mid 1980s. It's amazing to type on and is by far my favourite keyboard I own. It works perfectly on any modern PC or Mac just as long as you get an active PS/2 to USB adapter which I have. Currently typing this comment on it using an Apple Silicon Mac and it works great. It lacks a Windows key, so you do have to change the modifier keys in macOS to make it work but that's easy to do and tbh it's worth it for the excellent typing feel the buckling springs provide. I have a few other older things in my setup, I use a pair of Logitech 2.1 speakers that are about 20 or so years old that still work great, as well as a Sony video camera I use for my own KZbin videos I've owned for almost 10 years that still looks, sounds and functions perfectly as if it were brand new. My rule is that I'll only replace something if it breaks or is somehow no longer compatible anymore.

[@olly344]

I've created some rules for myself when aproaching tech, first, other than laptops, cameras, TWS (only earbuds) and smartphones, I never buy tech that depends on non removable batteries or batteries altogether; Second, if it needs batteries I'll buy the models that allow industry standard-easy to find batteries (thats why I have a 7 year old xbox controller over the ps5 one, for exemple); Third I never buy recently launched products, I always try to wait 1 year at least, either to get a promotion or to see if the product trully lives to the expetations; Fourth, if I just desire a tech, and I don't really need it, I'll buy used or wont buy it at all (I have a kindle diyng in my shelf, not because I don't read, but because I've been prefering analog books); Finally I only replace stuff when it really needs to be replaced; Those rules keept me in a health relationship with tech and allowed me to enjoy them and not be mastered by them.

[@djplonghead5403]

It is like the LC 500. It was so futuristic in 2016-18 (or whenever the design came out) that it still looks modern now.

[@Crashpro89]

Yeah that’s helped largely by the fact that Lexus didn’t change too much from the LF-LC concept, thus it still does look like a real life concept car. Lovely car and sound if you opt for the 5 litre V8!

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

Lexus LS460 very futuristic for 2007 or Lamborghini Countach most futuristic car in 1970s

[@Nullok]

Look even on Lancer from 1995. Yeah, still crazy

[@Hiasibua]

I drive a BMW i3 and people regularly ask me if it's new. When I tell them that it was built in 2013 and BMW ceased production of this model, they are always amazed. It just looks so futuristic and different from other cars. 😄 If only it was actually good-looking like the LC 500...😅

[@DDM1995]

Audio is the one thing where vintage tech is highly sought after, especially in pro-audio world.

[@garedmorort]

Audio, audio never changes

[@domefford864]

Integrated Dacs, integrated speakers, 24 bit streaming says otherwise.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

if we talk wired ones, then yes, but if we talk wireless earbuds there is always room for improvement for BT conection, already ldac, lhdc V and even samsung seamless codecs uhq can hit 24 bit 92khz and over 1000 bits over bt, so people love to upgrade to better quality stuff

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

2000s was the best times for Sound Blaster because of EAX these days EAX and Aureal A3D is no more because people are too lazy to make it happen. Imagine now great would Fortnite and GTA V be with EAX or A3D

[@somekindofusername]

I use an original EOS 5D for photography alongside a range of lenses from the 80s and 90s. It takes phenomenal stills and I will upgrade when it stops working. I love it. It is almost 20 years old.

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

Brilliant! I use an EOS 40D from a couple years after. Really solid little things.

[@simonhodgetts6530]

I drive a 13 yr old car. Works fine. My IPhone is now a mini wi-fi tablet and pocket camera - it’s a 2016 model. My phone is a 2007 Samsung. Works fine, good battery life - and it’s only used as a phone. Hi-fi? Ranges in age from 55 yrs old (turntable) through 40 yrs old (CD player) to 25-30 yrs old - amp and speakers. All work great, with minimal maintenance required. TV - 25 yrs old - works fine. All of this stuff I keep using because it’s really well built (some of the hi fi gear is ridiculously over engineered), and I see absolutely no need to upgrade any of it. I have to use more modern stuff for work - and without exception, all of it has been overly complicated and unreliable. My work laptop has been back with the manufacturer for over a year with an unknown fault they keep failing to fix, and my work smartphone (a Samsung) makes a great paperweight, but a useless smart phone.

[@kristofferrobinsen]

Sounds like my grandma talking about online banking. I think the world has moved fast, even only the last 5 years. And i think it’s great. I’ve been investing in new tech the last 2 years and I have the best Tech-experience ever. The only flaw is that it should be more easy to switch batteries in the devices.

[@JasonCrosen]

I remember that B&W when I worked at Apple. Looked really good on the sales floor. Was way out of my price range. God I loved how it looked and sounded though.

[@Hiasibua]

Yeah I remember these were heavily pushed by Apple and were really expensive. If I had the need for something like this I'd pick one up after watching this 😂

[@sim61642]

Listening to my CD walkman while watching this, The only update it needs is a fresh set of AAA's every once in a while. :P

[@stuart2151]

Great vid, I’m still using the following daily: 1. iPad mini 2 (2013) for video calls and as a stream deck to my pc . 2 Technika desk speakers from Tescos (2005) 3 Kindle Reader (2016)

[@davengg8467]

Old does not necessarily mean obsolete new does not necessarily mean better updated does not necessarily mean improved. Some things withstood the test of time like some 40+ year old audio equipment I still listen to

[@gothicchocobo]

I still use my iPhone 5c every day as an offline podcast device. because the OS doesn't update it means that the podcast app doesn't update either, and it's the most recent version that still has the playlist function (I have no idea what moron thought it was a good idea to remove playlists from a podcast app!). I need to replace the headphone jack (it cuts out at the slightest of movements) and the screen (it's cracked at the top, but not in any way that affects usability) but they are both fairly easy fixes. And I've got a couple of old laptops that do a great job of ripping CDs using DBPowerAmp to FLAC and ALAC at the same time.

[@guaiqueritech]

My iPhone 5 is my dedicated audio device 😆 and it was the first camera for my channel. Love it to death.

[@MrManniG]

I got a 5s that blew it's battery but the screen and headphone jack are good. Since it's now only collecting dust, I'd happyly mail it if you are interested

[@gothicchocobo]

@@MrManniG thank you for the kind offer, but I've already got the replacement parts, it's more just finding the energy/motivation to actually do the work. Thank you though.

[@J4ckC4ver]

I am confused, I have a playlist in the podcast app. I can even add songs from Music to it

[@gothicchocobo]

@@J4ckC4ver the apple podcast app swapped from playlists to Stations, which (from my understanding, as I haven't used them since I wasn't able to do basic playlist functions when I first tried, and never used it again) tries to be more automated and tries to sort it for you. I did a quick search to see if they had added the functionality back in, but it seems (as of this time last year) stations are still the work around for not having playlists in the Apple podcast app. Not sure how you've got playlists in the up to date apple podcast app, but I'm happy with using my old phone just for podcasts.

[@Mike-kg5sg]

5:10 I'm crying lol

[@ashleyjaytanna1953]

For a second I thought I misread it 😂

[@davidbos488]

I really like the idea of cherishing what you have instead of constantly needing to update. One suggestion for the Zeppelin, have you considered buying an AirPort Express to add Airplay 2 to the speaker?

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@davidbos488 yes! Thank you for the comment. I’ve considered it, just waiting for a good deal…

[@MrCooper83]

I still use my old Apple products (iPod Hi-Fi, older iPod models, iPhones, iPad, etc) they still work and fun to use. They are old but they are more special than the current models. I mean using old tech that is rare and legendary is kinda cool thing I guess. Great video as always. I would like to see more older stuff in the future.

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@MrCooper83 thanks man, appreciate the comment. Yeah I think there’s a bit more love for these older devices coming thru slowly these days…

[@MrCooper83]

@@montaguebarnabasltd cool, cant wait!

[@foxyfoxfilms]

Yes, i agree. I also have two iPad mini first gens, and I use them for music playback via downloaded music. The battery life is INCREDIBLE, I can go for weeks on end without having to charge, despite the battery being at 70% health.

[@QoraxAudio]

I'm still running my Philips B4X23A radio from 1962 weekly. Only had to replace an ECC85 tube once. Still looks and sounds great.

[@MrGreenAKAguci00]

I have 2 PSI audio speakers from the '70s that my colleague refurbished for me (new midrange membranes and suspension) with a Yamaha amplifier from early 2000s and a Tannoy Sub for the 2.1 setup. I've plugged a new FiiO highres LDAC bluetooth receiver to its CD input and it is a damn awesome set up. If you can buy older speakers from reputable brands and give them a test listen before purchase, go for it.

[@alexadelaide]

I have the newer wired apple keyboard from about 15 years ago and use it at work. It’s got a really small footprint, made of aluminum, has the same 2 usb ports and has never missed a beat

[@superdiego.g]

You sound so much like Kurzgesagt man! I was almost fooled at the beginning

[@0nlykodyy]

That quick Drill snippet was unexpected lmao @5:28

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

No bassline quite like it

[@DavitTheCore]

My parents were asking whyy I have bought three iPods, an iBook G4, an iPad 2 (downgraded to iOS 6), etc. This is the video I can finally show them to explain why

[@Gulaschguenter]

I have an old Jabra headset for work, about 15 years old. Fully integrated touch controlls, super light weight. Very high range. The new Jabra headsets my company offers are heavy and the connection gets lost when I get out if the room. The sound quallity sucks and the mute function doesn't work half the time. Just replaced the batterie and the ear piece coushions (the leather wore down) for the old ones and they are as good as new.

[@a1white]

I still use my Mac wired keyboard from 2007. Works really well and no worries about internal batteries dying.

[@delarageaz]

i've owned so many pairs of Parrot headphones (each generation) but they all became dust after a few years of use cause the fake leather is trash and we can see this problem on yours as well. They sounded good, the Zik 3 sounded better than the AirPods Max in my opinion. Their biggest issue is the only 5 hours of battery, the Zik 3 can get digital audio from USB and be charged by the computer you have them plugged in whilst you listen to them, a feature i wish AirPods Max, 6 years later, had.

[@artmichael5270]

Forget the sound quality. The clicking sound of changing the battery alone makes me want it

[@MattTurvey]

Wired headphones - will have them for decades and will still be great. Wireless headphones - invariably Bluetooth standards change and batteries fail.

[@walthefl]

My device of that kind is the iPod nano 6g. I still use it when going for a run. And it works just as it’s supposed to. It plays music and counts my steps (and gives me an estimate how far I ran). I love that little iPod :)

[@JimKahana-driftin]

I found that same Apple keyboard at a garage sale for $2.. gave it a clean and it became my daily driver. Love the font for the keys too!

[@bioluminescentlyunfolding5716]

I'm still using the iPod Touch I bought secondhand in 2012. Doesn't have fantastic battery life, but it can handle a long day out and that's fine. To the best of my knowledge, the friend I gave my previous secondhand iPod (an 8GB iPod Mini bought in 2010) is still happily using it. I've also got an original model GameBoy Advance I got at launch in 2001, a Nintendo DS (those came out in 2005 here, I think) and a DS Lite (2006, apparently), all of which are still going strong. In comparison, the mobile phones I've owned in this period have not, by and large, had comparable longevity. Planned obsolescence is an absolute scourge.

[@Maxsmack]

my 20 year old pair of sennheiser hd 600's are still going strong and my favorite pair of headphones on the planet. I wear them almost everyday, and have done so for years.

[@Nullok]

Great video! Nowadays i still use many of that era things, still have 3 macbooks from 2008 to 2010, the 2009 one is 17 inch and i freaking love it, still very bright and big display with small edges. The one from 2008 i renewed by swapping the display from 2010 broken macbook that i got for like 10$, and it works perfectly. The another love in life is thinkpads, personally have also 3 of them, and the older one`s perform seamlessly worse than new x270, bcs i can swap processors and ram, SL500 works as my home server. The main setup is fully new due to lack of performance in older tech, sadly. Talking about audio devices i still have cheap sol republic V3 from 2012, that have almost unbreakable construction, and it still rocks, while the razer kraken have been destroyed in like a year of usage.

[@shaxsonfamily1868]

Still use a (not air) Zeppelin as a TV speaker and also, through a blue tooth connector into the aux socket, a music player. The sound quality is amazing after 13 years. I've a modern top end Samsung soundbar on another TV and frankly I prefer the sound of the zeppelin!

[@emerson-biggons7078]

Koss headphones are also a lifelong tech product. Even if they don't last forever, the cost of warranty is shipping costs. Lifetime warranty (if you don't buy second hand)

[@Nerdyy5]

I got an old Dell laptop from a local school inventory. It has 1gb of ddr2 ram, a 1ghz pentium and it is running Windows 7 starter now. It is perfect for office 2007. I also tested CS 1.6 and Halo CE, both run smoothly. Really shows how old tech was made without the current greedy corporate mindset

[@jesalp]

Sony MDR-7506 are the standard for studio monitor headphones and mine have been going for 15 years now, only had to replace the pads and that's using them daily. Pure quality.

[@nekominorinya2569]

the oldest thing on my desk is a belinea crt screen, its plugged into a doc for my laptop, i cant describe how nice it is to watch movies on that thing, especially jurrassic park is great, love these movies

[@tetenc555]

the fact that this headphones has removable battery’s is so awesome and it probably is what makes this last forever. that’s so nice

[@Harryd06]

yeah i heard a b and w zeplin a few years back this video convinced me to by one, managed to score on one for £70

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

Excellent!!

[@markkumanninen6524]

My two MacBook Retinas are 7 and 8 years old. Stable like a rock. I love and need those ports. Keyboards are a pleasure to use and I also think if a laptop is too thin and light, it's harder to use. Never got viruses, though the OSs are "outdated".

[@smishdws]

I'd argue this isn't a case of old tech being better than new since we have many objectively better options on the market in 2024 for each of these categories. I think a better way to frame things is that these are categories that age incredibly well, as long as you are smart about avoiding obsolescence (e.g. buying headphones that aren't reliant on some proprietary app for its features).

[@tytytut435]

The 1st gen magic trackpad is amazing too, still super precise and smooth. I like that they use AA batteries too

[@fa5521]

Really really Dope concept

[@dalriada842]

I had a friend who went through those Apple keyboards like they were Pringles. Though he was a harsh master with his tech. His stuff used to break a lot! I'm still using a first generation iPad as an e-book reader. I should probably put a new battery in it at this point. I had a couple of iPods that were wrecked when their batteries swelled up, and a third that has now had its second battery fail. The third party batteries are nothing like the OEM ones for longevity.

[@Harryd06]

1:00 What a tune, good choice!

[@PUZZLEcheese]

I really love tech from the 2010's. I still use my MacBook Pro from 2012. I love that I can open and repair the laptop easily and I upgraded so many things inside during the years. I'm still a bit clueless what to do when I cannot use the laptop anymore, e.g. due to dropped app support (tried OCLP patch, but it failed sadly).

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

Yeah I’ve moved onto M1 because my 2012 couldn’t handle video edits. A sad day indeed.

[@formerlycringe]

Linux! I just bought a 2012 13 inch Macbook Pro off of a friend. once i upgrade the RAM from 4gb to 16gb and turn the HDD into an SSD, I'll have a pretty reliable beater laptop for doing things that don't require... "power" like having extra chrome tabs open for things I'm researching/studying, or burning images to SD Cards/USB Flash Drives. (I'm currently MURDERING my M2 Pro Macbook Pro with so many Chrome tabs I don't need.) The CD/DVD Drive is a plus too, I can easily rip any media and put it on my NAS. For anything related to older versions of macOS, I have a 2007 Macbook Pro running Snow Leopard. I could also get a 2009~2012 iMac and have it specifically run Lion/Mountain Lion

[@PUZZLEcheese]

@@formerlycringe cool, maybe I give this a try as well. Which Linux derivative do you use and does it run well on the MacBook?

[@formerlycringe]

@@PUZZLEcheese Xfce Mint. Only because it has 4gb of ram and an old 500GB HDD. if it came with 8gb I would've been more comfortable with a heavier mint flavor.

[@rynaquiGaming]

I've still got my Razer Megalodon headset from 2009, sound is practically as clear as day 1, no noise, no crackles even at full volume. The sound driver box still works and illuminates as well. Even the microphone still works!

[@arjund.4817]

If it works, don't replace it! My home computer setup uses altec lansing speakers from the 90's, and an old conference room ClearOne microphone for discord calls, and my keyboard and mouse is a 2007 logitech Wave. Even my computer itself is still chugging along 6ish years later. A lot of hardware takes ages before becoming obsolete.

[@bravoMike97]

4:08 *Ununiversalizes your universal plug* "Nothin' personal, kid" Apple be like

[@CH-bn7qb]

Just bought an iPad Pro 13 inch with the M4 Chip and cellular my first iPad and it’s blown me away the screen is genuinely just as good as my Panasonic LZ2000 OLED I plan on keeping this iPad long long term i really don’t think I need anything else in a portable device it does all my PC needs to 😊

[@GustavoM.D.]

Almost any fridge from 1990s or older is better than the new ones.

[@Noblepizza]

Just dont go too far back or else you'll have a lead issue

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

​@@Noblepizza It's k!

[@fletcherluders415]

Great video and a good reminder about how well designed products can help reduce waste down the line

[@CannedFunkMusic]

Your choice of music is stellar lol

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@CannedFunkMusic oh hell yeah. Thank you!!

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

7:09 need to find that, it is familiar to me and was the start of a really good soulful house mix I heard long ago.

[@tarmo4435]

My turntable is from early 80's. Its not high end hifi, but i still like it.

[@kornweed]

Omg I have those exact headphones still but I need to get mine repaired and such

[@FlosBlog]

This was the reality check I needed, thank you

[@MrBobbinio]

I own Numark iDj 2 and I absolutely love it. It is just about playing from two or one pandrives and it has everything you need for home djing. It’s so old but it has enough quality and very comfy to add tracks and play

[@ConanMcSD]

Just bought a thinkpad from 2016, thanks to its great cooling its cpu is boosted to work at practically double its old power, its great.

[@deeznattz]

got this video randomly recommended. Now I own 2 used Zeppelin Air-s, and 2 more are in the mail, heading my way. YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS!👍

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@deeznattz seriously?? That’s crazy but I’m sure they’ll sound good

[@deeznattz]

@@montaguebarnabasltd yes, seriously. No cap. Paid 176€ for the first two, the other two cost me 195€ with shipping. Buying just one of these is dumb, they sound so much better in tandem. 4 of em will probably be overkill, but fk it, theyre cheap as hell and and Ive got the money and I just really wanna know how is it going from 2 to 4, cuz going from 1 to 2 made a friggin massive difference. But I also gotta say that theyre far from perfect. They seem to fail quite a bit. Tis well documented online. I know this cuz my 1st one failed for 1day after I unplugged it from the wall one morning. It randomly started working next day tho, good ever since. So I gotta say: buyer beware But the main thing with these is that they cant replace a decent soundsystem on their own. In my case, im running them together with Harman Kardon Onyx Studio 3 and 4-s. And these HK-s have much better tweeters. The HK-s cost only 50€ a piece, used. Theyre 60W, 6speakers in one unit. The zeppelin excels in good bass, and being pretty damn loud, but you cant really have both at the same time. The bass starts to drop off after past 60% volume, so you gotta choose. I choose a little more bass and let my HK-s take care of the loud high ends. They compliement each other very well, indeed. With 4x bassy zeppelins, maybe I wont have to stress about finding 2x cheap used subs anymore. They might just be enough on their own, hehehe

[@The_Hero_Is_Back]

Still using Apple Mac Pro Mouse Black for its design and beauty, a 2011 Thinkpad X220 (still getting updates for Win10 - Apple could learn from that), Harman Kardon Sound Sticks (10 years old.), a Nikon D2x (2005), camera lenses from the 1990s, a bunch of peripherals that use USB-A, which is far from dead… the list goes on. Very few people use just one generation of tech, especially if the older stuff was expensive and just works. Old tech that I’d love? A Beosound 3200.

[@konishiwoi]

I have a pair of Parrots 3.0 and although the touch gestures work close to flawlessly, and the removable battery, I can’t say I like them anymore. The faux leather is destroyed, which includes the pads but also the outer ear cups and head band. I suppose this is all fine, I could perhaps swap the pads and live with the outside looking all messed up and leaving flakes everywhere, but the Zik 3 came with a soft pouch not a solid case, so for transport I would make the headband small. Over time, it wore down and now it does not hold its size and eventually the plastic headband (it is only metal where you can see, none of the headband is metal on the inside where it (imo) matters. After 4 years it required so much tape to just not crumble everywhere. Can't say I recommend them

[@atilla1950]

I love tech, but I love old tech even more. Just picked up an almost brand new Zeppelin Air for just 30€! Still can't believe the value here. I alwayas wanted this Zeppelin, but now I also got built in AirPlay which works wonderfully.

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@atilla1950 excellent. Yeah I’m listening to mine as I type. Great value.

[@Kyle-ur4mr]

I just bought that 2003 Mac keyboard brand new. I love it. Works flawlessly. I took off that plastic base and it looks way better

[@sparrowee]

My daily laptop is a 2015 macbook pro. I bought it this year to replace my no longer usable chromebook (i never should have bought if I did more research). I plan on using it for as long as I possibly can. It still gets all the new updates and runs my games perfectly. Will celebrate it’s 10 year birthday next year lmao

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@sparrowee excellent! You’ll like my latest video.

[@adwaitagnome]

Two pieces of old tech I consider to be better than some newer tech: Keyboard: IBM Model M (mine being ~34 years old) Laptop: Lenovo ThinkPad T420 (mine being ~13 years old) The IBM Model M is a joy to type on, bucking spring switches feel amazing. If anything, newer keyboards have gotten worse as they were cheepend. As far as the laptop goes, it has really good I/O for my need, an expresscard slot to expand it even further, great repairability, and an excellent keyboard.

[@JohanDee]

I love the older headphones from BeyerDynamics, they are still used extensively in audio studio's. I also noted your MacPro, same here used in combination with Open Core to have the latest MacOS!

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@JohanDee hell yeah. Yeah I’m doing a history of the Mac Pro video soon I hope!

[@DaBigBoo_]

listening to this on a pair of 2005 ultrasone icans, love them for their midfocus siganture and bass

[@apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs]

I went and bought a used set of Audeze Penrose headphones last summer. Knew that the battery would eventually be poo poo, but the deal was just too good to pass on. That and I'd JUST gotten into planar magnetic videos on KZbin 🤫 lol. Anywho, earlier this year i hit up their customer support to see what (if anything) could be done to revive these to their former heights of glory. They told me there's nothing they could do as the company (cuz they were well beyond their warranty period).... Buttttttt, the kind man on the phone explained how easy it would be to do a replacement, told me details about the battery, and told me how the part would be easy to find on AliExpress. Just thought I'd share so that folks can be aware that companies sometimes actually do think about us folks who plan to use their products for quite some time. And Audeze (at least prior to the Sony deal) was one of them. And yes people, i found the battery and successfully completed the surgery 💪😎 ..and ill keep doing it for as long as i can find suitable parts.

[@TyrooShino]

My better argument/position is that you should NEVER throw out tech. Even when you upgrade and your old thing has a few small defects, if it is usable, it's worth keeping. Nostalgia, value (some tech becomes expensive when it expires from the norms), a back up use, etc. Apple type companies are just the king of convincing you that your old thing needs replaced. It doesn't.

[@hermask815]

In food products the phrase „new recipe“ usually means we’ve come up with a way to get the same amount of money with cheaper ingredients. Guess that can happen in any industry. Premium was the standard or normal stuff of yesteryear.

[@luluyouidiot]

i love the "loud fucker" name for the b&w zeppelin air

[@JohnMushitu]

Great video. Subscribed. Didn't expect to see Sapiens in such a video 😅

[@yeswaycommunications]

Still also use that keyboard. Using it to type this. It's attached to an HP laptop, but I've also repurposed the original Powermac G5, it came with. That now uses a DVI-to-HDMI lead (7.5 metres long), which connects to my old HD TV. Works brilliantly for displaying photos on iphoto; watching DVDs, and playing music on Itunes. When the iTunes visualiser is on, it's stunning on my tv. So ahead of its time.

[@marufbepary100]

The headphone jack is nice since you can add a dongle that will make it wireless and keep it operational for many more years.

[@rodjets8208]

iPod Classics. Still use mine every day.

[@peporgan]

Very tempted to get a Zeppelin Air. Reviews for it when new were extremely positive. Also, the white Apple keyboard is definitely a classic.

[@alexh2665]

Wonder how audio tech really has not progressed so much

[@mainecrab]

I still use my old Altec Lansing ACS340 even right now two speakers with a subwoofer I believe I bought in late 90's or 2000 and they still function perfectly.

[@twipsy2047]

I swapped out my first gen iPad mini last year, because it couldn't handle an RDP session while listening to a podcast due to the small amount of RAM this old device has. If this wouldn't have been an issue it would still be my main podcast player.

[@alexandermikhailov2481]

5:25 I fixed those Zeppelins. There is a bunch of them with the wrong voltage rating capacitor on the power supply board, it must be a screw up at the factory. If it stops working, try replacing this capacitor. Otherwise, it's a great sounding speaker 👍

[@montaguebarnabasltd]

@@alexandermikhailov2481 I think I’ve seen that happen on some. Useful insight and thanks for the comment!

[@Tec-action]

Tech companies short changed us by sealing rechargeable batteries into their devices.

[@disusedyeti4029]

Funny this shows up in my recommended after I’ve spent the better part of a week watching with amazement as a 2011 MacBook Air runs rings around a laptop half its age and with twice the power and RAM… I think one of the oldest bits of tech I still use semi-regularly is a 4th gen iPod Nano. It’s a hand me down because I hung onto a Sony Walkman MP3 player so long that my sister’s old iPod ended up representing an upgrade. And I refused to upgrade to an iPod Touch because I honestly don’t like devices having touch screens when other input mechanisms make more sense so I’m sticking with the click wheel until the thing dies.

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

Easy and Cheap to Maintain/Repair NOTHING CAN BEAT THAT!