When Rockstar Perfectly Broke GTA V - The Speedrun Version

Rockstar has updated the game hundreds of times but they only broke the game (in a good way) once. It probably isn't when you expect, as GTA V bucks the trend that most speed games have developed over time. I am surprised Rockstar hasn't fixed the issues with the latest version but we speedrunners are perfectly happy living in the past...
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[@DarkViperAU]

The climbing and changing camera difference turned out to be VERY relevant as it allows us to clip into some buildings. To clarify with the "no waves" on 1.27. A single mission doesn't exactly get rid of the waves by itself. I just could never get them to dissappear in testing without doing a mission. It is unknown exactly what causes them to vanish, likely gameplay as opposed to passage of time, but for the speedrun it is largely irrelivant because they are gone by the time you get to los santos in a new game and we don't restart our games mid run so we have no waves through the entire game.

[@agoodguynl8956]

First

[@lester3006]

@@agoodguynl8956 cool

[@smoosev89]

@@agoodguynl8956 first with absolutely nothing to say or contribute

[@sub2rhys]

Oh.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

How do speedrunners play on patch 1.27 though? Doesn't the game automatically update?

[@shlvngy]

*agent steve haines, man*

[@slyhunter]

Agent Steve Haines, man

[@LeviathanRL]

Agent Steve Haines, man

[@zyxluz4645]

*agent steve haines, man*

[@keatonwastaken]

*Agent Steve Haines, man*

[@bakedlizard6429]

*agent steve haines, man*

[@ClemensAlive]

*plays on 1.50* ..."Run's dead!"

[@TheGhostFreakz]

Ja moin, Clemens ist auch hier

[@defli6645]

@@therri3n96 it was a joke

[@afroboy8827]

@@therri3n96 1.27

[@nooberx5222]

Yea I was doing that complications and I dunno its fps the car was like moving finnaly I have to skip it

[@defli6645]

@@nooberx5222 FPS above 120 will make the car have multiple seizures.

[@namenamename390]

9:30 what a beautiful and helpful graph

[@randomperson6176]

Ikr

[@Funny_skeleton_man]

@@_mailer the best part is that if you look at the graphic the first and third pacht are actually a zero

[@mcrumble1]

Ok name name name

[@lightyagami2542]

1000th like

[@lexasm2000]

Darkviper: shows the fastest version of the game to speedrun Also darkviper: loses time due to longer video outro

[@officerke4621]

Sounds like him 😆

[@VioletRM]

Gotta get it to 10 minutes

[@TONKATRUCKTONY]

Does anyone know where he gets the outro from?

[@Kellestial]

The vids time locked to 10mins

[@pikachu896]

@@TONKATRUCKTONY It's Kairi III from Kingdom Hearts 1.

[@fluffdasilva9663]

Oh wow, the characters all wore the same clothes across the multiple patches. That’s some serious attention to detail mr video creator, great work!

[@renakunisaki]

Probably copied the same save file to all three.

[@smasher4914]

@@renakunisaki Woooosh

[@Dapplication]

@UCGexHCdMq3IV7OXlaNqirKQ Well, I can memorize the link after that many years, mate.

[@plexyglass429]

@@TheRogueEight yikes

[@mylatahiri2572]

@@TheRogueEight WOW kid you just got r/WOOOOOOSHED!!!! 😂😂👀 "Wooosh" means you didn't get the joke, as in the sound made when the joke "woooshes" over your head. I bet you're too stupid to get it, IDIOT!! 😤😤😂 His joke was so thoughtfully crafted and took him a total of like 3 minutes, you SHOULD be laughing. 🤬 What's that? His joke is bad? I think that's just because you failed. He outsmarted you, nitwit.🤭 In conclusion, I am posting this to the community known as "R/Wooooosh" to claim my internet points in your embarrassment 😏. Imbecile. The Germans refer to this action as "Schadenfreude," which means "harm-joy" 😬😲. WOW! 🤪 Another reference I had to explain to you. 🤦‍♂️🤭 I am going to cease this conversation for I do not converse with simple minded persons.😏😂 You are a massive tool lmao

[@attilanemes3659]

1:25 Ission fail6ssion fail6ssion Michael died Michael died Michael died

[@Ryan-et3sx]

Attila Nemes burger plant

[@dygron]

Sandwich fire

[@aristonaragao3171]

Airport fudge

[@alekseilapin1222]

Attila Nemes yes

[@adamania31]

ission passeission passeission passe Blitz Play Blitz Play Blitz Play

[@Gary-Eng]

Last time I was this early, the run wasn't dead.

[@renakunisaki]

Last time I was this early, the shops still had toilet paper.

[@whitewolf8051]

Verrückter Schakal where tf is that we have no limits but forced shutdown of businesses

[@iaxivers7694]

This says 3 hours ago and the video says 2 hours ago.

[@duckygamingyt2001]

I was so early I watched him editing it on twitch 😂😂😂

[@JustNargeToo]

Impossible

[@lunarstrom8160]

I always got so confused as to why the Monkey Business kept getting disrupted. So it was a bug all along!

[@wisemanlincoln1399]

You mean Monkey Business

[@lunarstrom8160]

@@wisemanlincoln1399 Oops yeah, thanks for catching that.

[@rinkokonoe8644]

Same, wtf, I cant believe this is still an issue. It took me like 3 tries on console to get it to start

[@1abe]

@@rinkokonoe8644 same

[@arturosandoval8862]

@@rinkokonoe8644 that's modern Rockstar for you, they fucked up the GTA series, i hope they don't do the same to the RDR series

[@Kacpa2]

This autobraking after character switch is idiotic it disrupts the cutscenes like that with this pointless braking and even full stop...why they hell is it even there. Its one of things which is pretty much fixed with 1.27

[@williamschippling1565]

So people dont spawn into a crash i assume

[@szymonorowski4332]

@J K that would've looked odd, imagine being on a normally crowded street and suddenly there is an empty area 20 feet within a random dude on a bike

[@thestarrypoet]

"When Rockstar 'Perfectly' Broke GTA V" -It was October 1st, 2013.

[@robertoakes537]

no, September 17, 2013

[@joe_z2042]

Hilarious

[@PotatoMan420]

@@robertoakes537 October 1st was gta online release

[@rudolphshenanigans]

GTAO, not GTAV Sorry, being pedantic

[@ayushgupta7273]

Oof

[@6k911Channel]

7:40 Lol I just realised, the reason why Trevor says this is because on Franklins first canonical bank heist with Lamar (before the events of the game) they steal $2000 from a bank which they couldn't keep because a dye pack exploded on it xD

[@Deneiral]

love the graph at the end, made it really clear to see which patches have the most speedrunning potential

[@RosyMiranto]

Rockstar Logic: They Patches the uncessary, the fun things, and Money Glitches, but they will not patch actual problematic bugs, Useful Helps, and broken things.

[@swuu5953]

english

[@koolaidklankillers]

They try then there is more

[@theonlyplain]

Like Ubisoft, lol.

[@fenderbender2476]

Of course they patch money glitches, they want you to spend 75€ after you spend already 60€ on their game to enjoy Online actually or grind a lot

[@fumetsu-950]

@@fenderbender2476 you can buy gta for 12 bucks mate. why would you buy it for 60 euro?

[@alexties6933]

09:30 thats one hell of statistic

[@whitewilliam9786]

1.24: The manga 1.27: The anime 1.50: The Netflix adaptation

[@_Zoltan_]

5:34 Kpop fans: WhIcH oNe Is CuTeR

[@shortsandwich5573]

Nah thats 0:05

[@mil1992]

@@shortsandwich5573 lmao

[@Nanosuckmydick]

1:25 "Issionfailassionfailassionfail"

[@FurryWrecker911]

3:50 It completely breaks *flow in the "fixed" versions when the vehicle you switch to locks its brakes, imo.

[@arhamsaa]

Ah yes immersion. That's why I was wondering why I can't carry more than 2 pistols and 60 bullets.

[@FurryWrecker911]

@@arhamsaa You made me reread my original comment. I should have used the word "flow" instead. "Immersion" makes zero sense in this context.

[@arhamsaa]

@@FurryWrecker911 makes sense now.

[@Etobio]

“Agent Steve Haynes... man!”

[@calblack4156]

“I didn’t know we were double dating”

[@Thiennnnnn]

this is copied, man

[@effedyourmom5033]

How you gonna copy the top comment like that 🤣

[@y.bis8655]

i got to about 4:30 when i realised i didnt know what i was watching, i didnt realise this isnt the top gear funny moments that i thought i clicked wtf is wrong with me

[@elferson]

i don't believe it's possible for a human being to be that slow

[@youtubeiswarpingdiscourseb7368]

Haha

[@giantape6465]

What did u think when u saw the front flipping boat?!

[@arandomsupra]

@@giantape6465 "Welcome to top gear, today I break the laws of physics and do a front flip in a boat"

[@Blorp_]

@@elferson they're called drugs

[@Bedeion]

4:19 but agent Steve Haynes, man, do you get it?

[@jeeves_uk]

The triplet of Trevors saying "Incoming" was pleasing.

[@daliceswim]

The Triplet Is A Reference To A Miraculous Ladybug Episode Called Timebreaker In 2015 And Those Triplets Had Been From 2015-Now Because Of KZbin Software Back In 2005-2014

[@raphaeltk7779]

4:57 *franklin approaches Michael calmly* Michael: aight ima head out

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

When a game from 2013 is still one of the most played and memorable games of all time.

[@maxmoin1805]

You mean CS:GO?

[@nigoulenoblehiboux9812]

Played Maybe but I don't think he would be considered one of the most memorable games of all time in the future it's still just another AAA game with a blend story that has already been made a 100 time

[@slyceth]

DELAY in outro music OOPS

[@LauritzenLucas]

@@nigoulenoblehiboux9812 Ah yes, a BLEND story.

[@nigoulenoblehiboux9812]

@@LauritzenLucas sorry English isn't my first language I can understand it pretty well but when it comes to write something I mostly use what my phone suggests.

[@gene9597]

"I hope you all doing well." - has just a different feeling nowadays

[@A_Pro_Fuze]

Why?

[@Dan-vt9vk]

C'mon man, he's only trying to wish us a nice day. You don't have to remind us about the outbreak every chance you get.

[@kixakii436]

@@DionysianSpirit the virus surely isn't something to panic about, but if you don't take the situation seriously it will get worse

[@rodrikforrester6989]

@@DionysianSpirit Dude, Italy had over 600 people die in a _day_

[@rodrikforrester6989]

@@DionysianSpirit 600 A DAY, mate. This is serious business.

[@aqib4925]

So thats why... Ive been trying to speedrun gta 5 and not realizing that im using patch 1.50

[@bigboss4178]

*not stonks*

[@ElizeKane]

Im even doing some speedrun strats on the new patch when replaying the story. Its fun. I almost did the complications jump Yesterday but the mission Fails when vehicle gets near michaels house.

[@indyalmighty]

Runs dead

[@ElizeKane]

@@indyalmighty Yep, that was a huge timeloss.

[@aqib4925]

@@ElizeKane yeah, i also tried the hospital warp but i didnt got it, i thought it was a bug lmao

[@roelliesafari9988]

Amazing video, always love more info on the decisions in speedrunning

[@wyzcienzcsiewmariuzsiewscz5595]

1:52 _”Passeission”_

[@crayonstastenice2817]

Thanks for the graph at the end really cleared everything up for me!

[@relaxinggrizzly]

Concise, informative and well edited, awesome video Matt.

[@Lil_GhostBiH]

5:00 This glitch in 1.50 is really annoying even for regular play through. I had to find out the taxi fix on my own after driving there 3 separate times and having the mission bugger off on me.

[@thearousedeunuch]

I had to google it. I was so confused.

[@187onaPigeon]

It was nighttime when I got there for the first time so I didn't see anyone running away. The letter disappeared, no idea what happened. So I switched characters and went over there again, that did help

[@bigbenisdaman]

I loved 1.27, even the online didnt' have waves and it was glorious for doing the old hiests.

[@realracer0353]

Interesting! I saw one of the editing streams, while he was practicing the part with the waves, now it’s really odd to see it again in the video lol

[@RebornNoob]

I'm genuinely impressed that you pick up on these things, the only one I knew about and is probably the most obvious is the ocean not having waves.

[@El_Presidente_5337]

Imagine playing normally GTA V and you get suddenly T-Posed by Michael for a splitsecond.

[@yams1100]

I remember the monkey business you had to do this like 5 mins on stream

[@toketwo]

4:00 right as his switchout happens there's an airplane comin. lol

[@silastithing6897]

no

[@noobthemessiah528]

@@silastithing6897 yes

[@noobthemessiah528]

Listen to the video

[@johnvarley4561]

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA WOW HOW DID YOU SPOT SUCH AN AMAZING AND NOTEWORTHY THING?

[@sharcc2511]

HL2 is in a similar situation, the Old engine had lots of bugs, however in an attempt to fix them, valve added a very big bug in the new engine that lets speedrunners launch themselves across maps in milliseconds

[@kriskrzemgameplay192]

De(an)Sinc(laire) here acceleratedbackhop.png

[@CassidyCope]

GTA V: the game that gets _more_ broken over time.

[@carlosuzaier5858]

Clearly you haven't played Paladins

[@tko2594]

Carlos Uzaier How right you are good sir

[@ProtectusCZ]

@@carlosuzaier5858 "Why to fix bugs when you can delete anything related to them?"

[@carlosuzaier5858]

@@ProtectusCZ That is the mindset of EM, but unfortunately the bugs still persist

[@ProtectusCZ]

@@carlosuzaier5858 I left the game few months ago (2.1 release) and after that the game became total mess. I never had any major bugs but after the update it was unbearable. Nerfed healing, nerfed shields, reworked VGS didn't help either. I switched to OW and the level of polish can't be compared with Paladins. Maybe community is more toxic but at least lootboxes for free.

[@Cats4life777]

Watched the stream where you worked for 10 hours on this Edit: Matt Broke

[@ponyglee]

Nice video, love the variety.

[@dawsonpoe]

Actually, the Monkey Business bug is avoidable without using a taxi. I was able to fix it by going off-road. It has worked for me every time. Also in your clip, the bug happened once, you went back into the road, and the bug didn't occur again. For me however, this was never the case. The bug for me kept on happening. But again, it was fixed by going off-road.

[@bravomail123]

u can taxi skip to location too

[@tomcatt360]

He mentioned that the bug isn't present if you use a taxi in the video at 5:08

[@Lestweforgot]

@@bravomail123 @tomcatt He's trying to say Taxi skip isn't the only way; he knows you can just use a taxi. Apparently you can also just drive offroad towards Michael.

[@redbird4168]

You can also walk there

[@Lestweforgot]

@that dude I was replying to someone who didn't get it. Clearly you lack comprehension skills as well.

[@jamescahn87]

Hey i dont know if you've ever mentioned this but i just stumbled upon a sweet glitch. During the Cleetus sniping mission, after popping the tires if you race ahead and beat him to the rooftop for the coyote part, he just leaves after he catches up and the mission essentially gets "stuck". You can take this time to fly into fort zancudo and steal a P996 Lazer and store it at the sandy shores airfield. Just park it in the hangar, run a decent ways away from it, and sticky bomb yourself. You'll fail the mission, but after finishing it correctly you'll have the p996 still stored at the hangar!! Update: It doesnt seem to respawn after flying away in it and returning,though, like it would if you stole it out of the base during normal gameplay. :/ Update2: If you taxi the jet onto the runway, save the game, then fly off and reload the game, it puts you in the jet on the runway with another jet in the hangar. This way you can go mess around and if the one you're in gets destroyed youll at least have another one.

[@janmisek1368]

Hi Matt. I rally enjoy you content and speedruns in general, so I thought I would like to try speedrun just for fun myself. Unfortunately for me, I am not able to downgrade my game, due to new social club, being installed as two apps (RG social club and RG Launcher). Is there now really no way to downgrade, or am I just being a muppet? Thanks and keep up your good work!

[@DarkViperAU]

My guide to downgrade the game still works (there is one more step in the comments)

[@raynefall3078]

I see what you did with the outro, but it didn't matter because no ads? Ur truly awesome

[@schlickfitten845]

Thanks for the graph. Made things a lot more comprehensible.

[@bybybbttt]

Love these Videos man ✌🏻

[@tomj4406]

cool info, thnx! I am no speedrunner, but i do know updates have ruined things for trainers/mods a lot. Like having body guards as recruitable in Simple Trainer. A couple yrs ago, they were amazing, over time, things got progressively worse. They went from top grade to basically useless as such..ie running from gunfights instead of blasting anything threatening you or any NPC you shot at, inc. ofc in missions. It was fabulous fun. RIP Bodyguards :'(

[@cameronryan5932]

"agent steve hanes man"

[@balls699]

Hi Matt, I love your videos very much, Thank you for all the great content. ❤️

[@TheLukesterGaming]

This is a pretty interesting video for comparing those 3 patches, certainly makes quite the difference as to why 1.27 is the most speedrun-friendly of them all, who knows if one day a later patch may come along to replace that, but given the amount of issues after all these years, it seems very doubtful that there would be some sort of 'perfect' patch where everything in a latest version is speedrunner friendly, who knows though! It was neat seeing you edit this on streams recently too, some very great effort indeed 👍

[@smoke__]

this is the type of video i didn't know i wanted to watch very nice

[@wojtekpolska1013]

the disrupted monkey business glith on new patches only happens, when you don't follow the curvy road, and drive down the hill on dirt, to not disrupt the mission you have to follow the road to the end (with is stupid)

[@bubblepop11]

8:30 lol for me i have the longest wait on the new version before and not after.

[@therandomyoutuberplayz3586]

5:09 I took the dinghy up the coast and back down, where I could start the mission anyway.

[@gregdebacker4998]

Ive been watching your channel for awhile and enjoy your videos. I need help and with how many hrs youve put into speedrunning the game figured youre still playing it and thought youd be a great source to turn to. How do you get the Rockstar Launcer to play GTA 5 from Steam? I saw a video closing Steam, opening Rockstar Launcher as administrator and clicking play on Steam but all that does for me is open Steam but not the game. If you or anyone else can help me you or theyve got yourself or themselves a new subscriber

[@benjaminrobledo5466]

I remember when my game installed weirdly on my PS3 or PS4. The mission Monkey Business kept crashing my game when I got to close to the starting point. Thankfully, a quick uninstall and reinstall did the trick.

[@The_SmokeArtiste]

9:48 if you listen closely you can hear matto scratching his mustache

[@theglowingone2239]

He's an itchy boi

[@Rileydoesstuff]

Fun fact: patch 1.27 is the last patch released for the ps3 and xbox 360

[@EMETRL]

thank you for the graph at the end

[@franky4000]

This video explains so much, and in details.

[@wojtekpolska1013]

@DarkViperAU if in some other patch, a gamebreaking bug was discovered that saved a lot of time, would it be within speedrun rules to compete in same categories against 1.27 version runs? Im sure there must be some usefull bugs and glithes in other patches, but because nobody speedruns them, they were never discovered

[@neonicplays]

I don't believe 1.27 is mandatory, just better so itd be allowed

[@MrTimPL]

Before Monkey Business Amanda calls Franklin to ask him if Michael is safe. You can make this bug and kill Michael when he his running and still say to Amanda that he is "safe"

[@KaanSepticher]

I was there when this was getting edited lol

[@qaarkk]

I WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN!

[@kuju9016]

Lol same

[@lol-ve8jc]

I was there aswell I was the computer

[@KaanSepticher]

@@lol-ve8jc cool

[@YTkendog]

I was the gtav

[@dustyproductions7924]

2 cars for the price of one. Get the vehicle of your choice, then go to the garage you purchase and put the car there, you can either you go to GTA online or repeat a mission then go back to story mode then you will have to cars of the same one you pick

[@blackzacc]

1.27 is the last update old gen consoles got too so does that mean i can speedrun on a ps3

[@myfatassdick]

6:30 wow I hate that why would they change it in the newest patches Its fixed in red dead redemption 2 and in some actions online but not everywhere I knew I wasn't crazy for noticing that

[@thedood2059]

9:37 u don’t hear this enough but thank u for providing high quality content I’ve never seen a clickbait vid from u and ur facts are straight to the point and easy to understand, ur videos always feel like they have a strong sense of pride it shows u actually care about what u post for ur viewers sake and not just for monetizational sake. Ur a real G I hope ur doing swell Put a shrimp on the barbie

[@FrightNFight]

0:19 Kelly Slaters Pro Surfer (2002)

[@_aland]

5:11. There is another way (apart from the taxi). If you arrive as Trevor to the mission, Michael will run away (as shown in the video), but you can swap characters to Franklin, who will be just a few hundred metres away and can start the mission.

[@indyalmighty]

I wanna know how did speedrunners decide this one is perfect, like did they find these many strats so soon and decided this is the one? What was the process of the community to make this one the chosen one

[@KingBossBob]

for the monkey business bug, there is a work around, unless i self promote, it’s kinda hard to describe so my bad, but the way you do it is by switching at the exact right moment

[@UAVizUp]

Yeah I didn’t understand most of that video very confusing but thanks for that graph at the end I complete understand now it really helped

[@FilipMunk]

that was what confused me @5:11, I had to walk slowly to him, as evey time I was in a car driving to him the mission canseled

[@maybenah]

The monkey business bug is still there on what ever the latest patch is

[@MrWhite-oz8vz]

HEY! Very interesting video! Really appreciate the effort you put into this.

[@jonzyboiyt5668]

Hey Matt have you mentioned the teleportation glitch in a taxi where you have your marker in the ocean and you will tp there ???

[@GreenDEMON6229]

When I experienced the monkey business bug for the first time i thought it was because of me hitting a car

[@patrickcampbell957]

Was confused until graph at the end it really cleared it up.

[@SirDankleberry]

Rockstar when updating: One step forward, 5 steps back.

[@identocidal]

i think it's crazy how he knows exactly which glitches are in which patches like the back of his hand.

[@itsmehere1]

i HATE that you have to confirm leaving LSC in the current patch even in online i had a time where it took me like 10 sec to get out of the customs because i kept canceling the exit option

[@moth.monster]

>enters giveaway >wins >challenges you to GTA V

[@abhijitb.5265]

If you pull out your phone in the mission eye in the sky while entering the police station the mission will fail saying Trevor pulled out a weapon

[@minatonamikaze7968]

When you were riding a bike abd the character had his helmet on, get in a car and move your way to ammu nation. The character will take of the helmet after entering the shop and the guy won't sell you anything. Instead, you'll be walking slowly all the time and the guy at ammu nation just walks out. You can't even pull out a gun or sum

[@GhostDragon934]

Regarding the monkey bussiness bug, going back doesn't always solve the problem, at least for me it didn't. Everytime It disrupted the mission and I went away, when the mission respawned, the same bug happened so the only way to get to it was through a taxi.

[@seshpenguin]

Lol that patch graph at the end xD

[@sexybitch912]

love your videos

[@loganwolv3393]

So when i actually played the story i likely had version 1.27 or a bit higher because i don't remember the brakes being applied when switching to someone.To be fair there should indeed be no brakes because yeah it feels more fluid more enjoyable in a way.

[@Kumakaree]

9:48 *beard scratching sounds*

[@MrTaktic121]

The gun dude just walks away

[@inujosha]

I find the hospital warp interesting. I wonder what Rockstart added in patch 1.27 for that to be able to work?

[@kingedward510]

That graph at the end seemed 'somewhat' redundant haha. Thank you for your services to data visualisation, however.

[@luki12354]

that graph at the end was very informative

[@andreii_]

I’d like to make a clarification. The monkey business bug is caused by the boat behind Michael loading in and spooking him. This was discovered by a console runner, King Boss Bob, who has to run on 1.50 due to consoles not being able to switch between patches.

[@DarkViperAU]

Oh interesting.

[@KingBossBob]

dats me :P

[@elijahsmith6722]

Literally opened the video the instant it uploaded

[@apogus]

its been 3 years. has life been good?

[@seasonsarecool]

What I got from that thumbnail is that either michael walks or A poses in the sky

[@Trevor_Keith]

I knew that the monkey bussiness bug will be shown to this video because i watch his vids that the mission disrupted

[@officerke4621]

2:25-2:30: When he says that "the waves will be as flat as a pancake," there was a HUGE fuss over it when he was live streaming himself editing this video on Twitch. And he STILL used "flat as a pancake!" HAHA 🤣🤣🤣

[@Excepticus]

Hey pls tell me where that sign is. I've never been there before